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43:43 Topic Is: The gift that keeps giving: 'I'm grieving for our loss of cultural enrichment': Students claim they will fail their exams because they are so DEPRESSED about Brexit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3666112/Students-claim-suffering-depression-Brexit.html#ixzz4D1cBk5um
43:43 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Thu Jun 30 12:16:45 2016
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05:08 <Tigger_> how is the NAS?
10:20 <xm> it's expanding to add the other 2x4TB from the old NAS
10:56 <xm> it'a a slow process
13:19 <xm> i think i can add a cache drive, an SSD
13:30 <xm> but im happy with how it is alreadyt
14:52 <Tigger_> what does the cache drive do? mirror the most used files?
15:07 <xm> im not sure, just something i came across
16:17 <xm> you are correct
16:32 <xm> that could work well with music
16:35 Quit: Glenn ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
16:41 <xm> but i dont think anyone notices speed issues with music
16:58 <xm> well, for me i tend to listen to the same songs
17:21 <xm> if you have a lot of audio files for projects that could work too if you're working on the same project for some time
17:21 <ajnin> xm opennas ?
17:29 <ajnin> or a hardware soloution ?
17:36 <Tigger_> that's quite good, reducing stress on the mechanical drives for routine stuff
18:45 <xm> i just went with synology as i want something woithout much work, ajnin
18:57 <xm> so yes hardware
19:05 <xm> i dont have time/space for a box to deal with it
19:23 <xm> it is 6 drives now
19:30 <ajnin> I went the thecus
19:35 <xm> thecus?
19:39 <ajnin> i got n5200 and a n7700
19:39 <Tigger_> so 16Tb storage
20:01 <ajnin> n5200 = 5 drives up to 2TB each
20:05 <xm> about that tigger
20:15 <ajnin> n7700 is much better 7 drives up to 4TB each
21:16 <xm> a shame the RAID cant use an m.2 for cache
21:24 <xm> not that i know of anyway, highly unlikely
21:42 <xm> time to get breakfast
22:11 <Tigger_> I assume your NAS doesn't have M.2?
24:40 <Arbition> If you were using ZFS you could use an SSD for L2ARC and another SSD (in mirror preferrably) for the intent log
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25:03 <xm> do any NASs have m.2 tho. i dont think it would be worth the price to pay
25:08 <Warren1984> hi all
25:10 <xm> i mean hardware NASs with m.2
25:11 <Warren1984> ey xm
25:12 <xm> ey Warren1984
25:16 <Tigger_> hello Warren1984
25:20 <Warren1984> hey tig
25:34 <xm> ill just have banana for breakfast. cantr be stuffed cooking
25:43 <Arbition> the main thing to remember about intent logs is that they really need to be corporate grade, with larger capacitors to commit its incoming cache on power outage
25:45 <Tigger_> I'd be extremely surprised if any NAS had M.2 at this point
25:48 <xm> unless warren comes over and makes me eggs
26:07 <Warren1984> xm you need to engage directly in activities like cooking to bolster your confidence
26:11 <xm> how new is m.2?
26:13 <Warren1984> hey Arbition
26:15 <Tigger_> I didn't understand any of that
26:20 <Arbition> Morning Warren1984
27:06 <Tigger_> I first saw M.2 in Intel NUCs, probably about 18 months ago, then they slowly started to appear on motherboards
27:20 <xm> teh capicators can temporarily store charge, the bits of information during the power outage
27:28 <xm> i think?
27:42 <Arbition> not just that, they also use that time to actually write to flash
27:51 <Arbition> because even SSDs have incoming cache
28:29 <xm> is it normally this busy for a sunday morning?
28:36 <xm> im usually asleep for hours
28:47 <Warren1984> xm information is stored in the ssd or hdd not the capacitors
28:49 <xm> ill be back to nap after ive added the 3TB to the old NAS
29:00 <xm> Warren1984: i mean temporarily
29:51 <xm> although if you want to be a pedant i think you can say it's not information but data
29:57 <xm> ive heard some people make that distinction
30:07 <Arbition> oh what Warren1984 means is the capcitors power the RAM
30:16 <xm> yes
31:45 <Warren1984> who won the election?
32:01 <Arbition> meh its probably still awaiting the postal and prepolls
32:11 <Arbition> which means there won't be any movement today
32:50 <xm> i wonder if the reason why votes that come in later tend to favour the conservatives is because lefties prefer to do their virtue signalling on voting day
32:57 <xm> to show off to everyone how tolerant they are
33:15 <Arbition> sounds like a stretch
33:26 <xm> it's just a fun theory
33:56 <Tigger_> or to better keep it a secret they're voting for Rise Up, One Nation, or Australian Liberty Alliance
34:28 <xm> i cant remember how voting works. can you come in with heaps of preprinted votes
34:43 <xm> and then vote with extra votes for your favourite party
34:44 <Tigger_> go in with a wheelbarrow of votes
34:47 <xm> lol
35:18 <xm> is thia rhw best One Nation have ever done?
35:19 <Arbition> in theory no
35:32 <Arbition> as when you approach the desk, the person signs the ballot paper they give you
35:35 <xm> no one would have seen this coming after ther 'fraud' incident whatever that was
35:41 <xm> i see
36:00 <Tigger_> One Nation got about 25% of the vote in the QLD state election one time
36:17 <xm> thats quite significant
36:24 <xm> i wonder what the demographic breakdown wsa
36:44 <Tigger_> it was country people who were not too far from the city
37:27 <Tigger_> people who were further out again did not vote One Nation so much
37:37 <Warren1984> Arbition what is better? 1. getting the D$P, finding employment & working 15 hrs a week, learning to cook, running a household, learning to shop, learning to clean, learning maintenance i.e. on your car/house or option 2. going against my Psychiatrist's advice and working fulltime?
37:56 <Tigger_> the theory is that being closer to the city they got to personally see how much wasn't getting spent in their electorate
38:23 <Tigger_> just now I made another Breville purchase
38:30 <Arbition> Warren1984: fucked if I know
39:31 <Warren1984> Arbition I wrote on my facebook wall "It's irrational to believe you need to earn lots of money in order to be loved"
39:52 <Warren1984> If you are not lazy then what do you have to worry about
39:54 <Tigger_> I thought I had everything I needed, but not quite: http://www.breville.com.au/stick-mixer.html
40:06 <Arbition> ah, a mayonaise maker
40:32 <Warren1984> when I moved out of home, other than Mark Campbell the only thing I didn't like was the food
40:38 <Warren1984> I am fussy with food
41:07 <Warren1984> I had a meatball TV dinner and compared it to home made meatballs, huge difference in taste
41:09 <Tigger_> it's so that a lot of pulses, like chana dal, are very hard, this will destroy them
41:24 <Arbition> boring
41:48 <Warren1984> If your not lazy and you learn how to cook, then you will always have good meals
41:57 <Arbition> pretty much the only think I've seen family members use it for, and myself, is making mayonnaise
43:32 <Warren1984> that looks cool Tigger_
43:47 <Warren1984> I thought you said you have all your breville products
43:49 <Tigger_> also green split peas are much nicer when they're blended to become very smooth
44:05 <Tigger_> I thought I had all I needed, but it turns out I don't
44:49 <Warren1984> you will never have it all because new things will always come out
45:03 <Arbition> or more likely, things will beak
45:05 <Arbition> *break
45:14 <Arbition> wrt kitchen appliances
45:15 <Warren1984> yeah they need replacement
45:31 <Tigger_> kitchen appliances last for many years if treated right
45:36 <Warren1984> something that is worth getting is a good pair of knives
45:46 <Warren1984> and learning knife skills
45:47 <Tigger_> this is what I want to use it for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHi2dc6G4o
45:52 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Heston Blumenthal talks Breville All in One BSB530 - Anti-Suction Blending Feature (Oct 8, 2013) Length: 1:36 - Category: Howto & Style - 2,175 views views - 6 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
46:00 <Warren1984> knives last a life time
46:10 <Warren1984> if you get the good quality ones
46:26 <Arbition> Hmm, I wonder what a diamond edged knife would be like
47:20 <xm> Warren1984: who did your mother vote for?
47:32 <Tigger_> there are ceramic knives, which I find bizarre
47:49 <Arbition> there are also ceramic turbos
47:54 <Arbition> probably for different reasons though
48:01 <Warren1984> one nation
48:17 <Warren1984> I told her not to because xm would be kicked out of Australia
48:44 <Tigger_> did that make her more determined?
48:53 <xm> i was joking to myself she voted ON
48:56 <Arbition> ceramic turbos are lighter than steel turbos, so they spool quicker. But they're not as strong as steel turbos so the boost pressure can't be as high
48:58 <xm> didi she for real? or are you kidding
49:27 <Warren1984> kidding
50:00 <Warren1984> I know my parents didn't vote for liberal, after what they did to me
50:03 <xm> it looks like it shall take around 20 hours to expand the 4 drives to 6
50:21 <xm> i thought you are still on D$P?
50:33 <Tigger_> in this review, he first bought the Kenwood stick mixer, which died after using it 6 times, when he realised he should always stick to Breville: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbrCjMKLxY
50:37 <BlackDevil> Youtube: WHICH STICK MIXER / BLENDER - Breville Control Grip A Follow up to the Kmix Triblade Review (May 16, 2013) Length: 5:59 - Category: Howto & Style - 14,068 views views - 29 likes (93.5%), 2 dislikes (6.5%)
51:33 <xm> ive decided to use the old NAS for torrents
51:57 <Warren1984> Tigger_ since my Mum does the grocery shopping, is it best to get the receipts off her each time she goes grocery shopping and enter them into a spreadsheet?
52:56 <xm> what have the Liberald done to you Warren1984 ?
53:43 <Warren1984> they made me get interviewed for my D$P
53:53 <Warren1984> but I guess it's just objective
54:00 <Arbition> In theory
54:03 <Warren1984> they did it to everyone under 35
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54:23 <Warren1984> I need to develop a new structure and routine
54:26 <Arbition> sounds like a large administrative understaking
54:31 <Arbition> *undertaking
54:38 <Warren1984> get into the habit of waking up early all the time again
54:53 <Lish> Ugh why are you here so early
54:55 <xm> but you still have the D$P though
55:00 <Warren1984> yeah
55:03 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I don't know why you're entering receipts into a spreadsheet
55:10 <Warren1984> but they do it every 2 years
55:24 <xm> if they arent strict then it means too many people will get on it and it will collapse, resulting in NoD$P4u
55:39 <Warren1984> well Tigger_ it generates a pattern over time
56:04 <Warren1984> and allows me to know exactly what to purchase for when I move out of home
56:18 <Tigger_> there are no patterns if you already have all the Breville appliances you need
56:22 <Warren1984> also it helps me focus on the details
56:39 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I am talking about grocery shopping
57:07 <Warren1984> my shopping can be written in my notepad and uploaded to another spreadsheet
57:11 <Tigger_> then you should make online orders so that the items are already listed for you automatically
57:35 <Warren1984> but I also need to know my Mum's grocery shopping habbits, for when I move out of home
58:01 <Warren1984> If I have 1 year of entered reciepts, then that gives me a good idea of what to purchase
58:41 <Lish> How do you continually participate in the exact same conversations. Over and over
58:48 <Warren1984> I should do some volunteer house cleaning
59:00 <Warren1984> and in that way I can learn how to clean properly
59:28 <Tigger_> there is such a thing?
59:46 <Warren1984> find someone who clean's houses
59:50 <Warren1984> and learn off them
00:08 <Warren1984> because I am oblivious
00:28 <Warren1984> unless someone points things out to me
02:16 <Warren1984> a task must be clearly defined
02:46 <Warren1984> then I need to make it specific, give it a measurement and a deadline
04:15 <Warren1984> for example 1. define task -> clean out the microwave 2. measurement -> clean once a week 3. deadline -> spend only 3 mins at the most doing it
04:52 <Warren1984> and so you can do this for all things around the house
06:03 <Tigger_> Lish, purchase this: http://www.breville.com.au/stick-mixer.html
06:15 Quit: Lish ([email protected]) Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi
07:49 <Tigger_> Lish must be angry again
09:26 <xm> what time do you normally wake up Warren1984
09:29 <xm> isnt this early
09:40 <xm> im never up this early
09:57 <xm> but i am because i know some of my server stuff completed and i must attend it for teh next phase/stage
10:14 <xm> only the geek within gives me the drive to get out of bed on sucha cold sunday
10:28 <xm> 5C right now!
16:30 <xm> im wondering now if i should map the NAS shares with music for soulseek or not, as sharing/downloading a lot might introduce a lot of mechanical stress
17:30 <Tigger_> mp3s would mostly buffer in RAM I assume, but torrents would be much more work
17:53 <xm> ah yes, read them all in with just a few chunks rather than keep seeking
20:45 <xm> all right, 3TB drive set up as torrent box
20:59 <xm> actually i know what i can do
21:25 <xm> i can throw in an archive drive in the spare NAS spot(s)
21:32 <xm> and duplicate files there
21:47 <xm> like an 8TB drive with redundant music
22:10 <xm> then map that, if that fails, it wont fail with the other drives
22:39 <Tigger_> an 8Tb archive drive would be great for if you've got a media collection that doesn't change much
22:45 <xm> yes
23:01 <xm> now to see how much...
23:42 <xm> they i dont care about speed either (post archived)
23:51 <xm> *i dont care about speed either (post archived)
24:24 <Tigger_> an archive drive is more than fast enough for streaming
24:50 <xm> $329
24:52 <xm> that's reasonable
25:33 <xm> a part of me just wants to show off my large collection on slsk
25:40 <xm> i dont mind sharing either
25:56 <xm> is slsk still going well?
25:59 <xm> i havent been on for ages
27:31 <Tigger_> yes, slsk is as good as ever
28:13 <xm> what's your drive/share arrangement with slsk
28:16 <Tigger_> though the other day only two people had the new Veronicas single, I expected more
28:19 <xm> how do you share
28:28 <xm> heh you really are into the veronics
28:39 <xm> they have some good songs but i dont like that new one you like
29:02 <Tigger_> slsk is still running on this machine, the rest of my music is on the server
29:33 <Tigger_> I haven't decided what to do, I might leave it here just for sake of simplicity
29:35 <xm> is the music on the server backed up?
29:47 <Tigger_> some is
29:51 <xm> id imagine you'd have some rareities
30:03 <Tigger_> my CD->FLAC rips are also on the laptop
30:03 <xm> some files that would be hard to track down if you lost them
30:16 <xm> i suppose in that case you have hard copies
31:07 <Tigger_> when lish comes back, ask her to list her 10 favourite Veronicas songs
31:40 <xm> does she like them?
31:55 <Tigger_> hates them
31:58 <xm> i cant list more than a few of their songs let alone 10 favourites
32:18 <xm> grunge will go down in history the same way progressive rock did
32:30 <xm> too particular to a generation that no one else will get
32:45 <xm> i an semi-understand some grunge as i grew up then
32:52 <xm> but with some old 70s rock it's alien to me
33:11 <Tigger_> only Nirvana has been revived so far
33:19 <xm> i feel like clicking and buying that 8TB drive right now
33:39 <xm> but i must space these things out
33:50 <xm> how has Nirvana been revived?
35:25 <Tigger_> with Kurt Cobaine's death 20th anniversary, it has been a pop cultural notable event
35:47 <xm> i didnt even know that happened
37:12 <Arbition> xm: a Helium 8TB or an SMR (archive) 8TB?
37:34 <Tigger_> you can't get a helium 8Tb for $329
37:43 <Arbition> oh I didn't see a price
38:06 <Arbition> fyi xm, SMR drives are ill suited to RAID
38:14 <Tigger_> very ill suited
38:27 <Arbition> I bought one for backup
38:33 <Tigger_> but xm's NAS accepts JBOD
38:35 <Arbition> which sits on my desk at work being unused
38:43 <Arbition> soft raid is still raid
39:16 <Tigger_> I'm pretty sure you can mix storage types on his NAS
39:37 <Tigger_> though that should be confirmed
40:09 <Warren1984> <xm> what time do you normally wake up Warren1984 -> lately usually around 10am
40:45 <ajnin> 10am is late
40:47 <Warren1984> I should wake up at 7am each day
40:47 <ajnin> fuck that
40:55 <ajnin> Warren1984 yea you should
41:15 <ajnin> i get up at 5am that is just to early
41:19 <Warren1984> creating a new structure and routine
41:22 <ajnin> but i start work at 7am so I have to
41:24 <Warren1984> not it's not ajnin
41:27 <ajnin> i persoanlly find
41:38 <Warren1984> most people are attentive early in the morning
41:43 <ajnin> if I get up at 7 and am ready for the day at 7:30 it is a good day
41:46 <Warren1984> it's the best time to do things
42:00 <Warren1984> 5am is good in the summer
42:01 <ajnin> 5 hours of productive stuff done and then its lunch time
42:05 <Warren1984> 7am in the winter
42:07 <ajnin> after that you can do whatever
42:15 <Warren1984> yes indeed
42:23 <ajnin> i find I am more foucsed if I have a list of shit I need to do created the night before
42:27 <xm> SMR drives? never heard of them
42:36 <ajnin> normally just 3 to 5 things
42:38 <xm> oh archive
42:44 <ajnin> xm no
42:59 <Tigger_> SMR is the shingle type discs that archive drives use
43:01 <ajnin> and I work that list.. get the shit sorted out
43:20 <xm> Arbition: i didnt mean as a RAID. but a single disk in the NAS
43:28 <Arbition> oh ok just checking
43:36 <xm> but ill probably put that in the old NAS actually
43:42 <xm> if the old NAS supports 8TB
44:15 <xm> so the old NAS will have a 3TB drive for downloads and minor things (manually copied over redundancy < 500GB) and then another 8TB drive
44:18 <xm> both not RAID of course
44:26 <Tigger_> it probably does, but they don't advertise it as such, as it has only been tested up to a certain capacity
45:45 <Arbition> if it supports 3TB it probably supports 8TB
46:12 <Arbition> it was 2TB that was the limit for some systems
46:26 <Tigger_> like EXT2 I think
46:32 <Arbition> due to 2^32 512byte sectors
46:39 <Arbition> erm no hardware
47:16 <Arbition> according to wikipedia, later versions of ext2 support up to 32TiB volumes
47:31 <Arbition> ext2 is a filesystem
47:42 <Tigger_> yes
48:18 <Arbition> oic, it is limited to 2TB if block sizes are 512 bytes
48:20 <xm> https://www.synology.com/en-global/compatibility?search_by=products&category=hdds&p=1&product_bays=2&product_name=DS213air&filter_size=8TB&not_recommend_mode=false
48:24 <xm> no Seagate mentions
48:38 <Arbition> block sizes of 4096 bytes have been standard for a while
48:41 <Tigger_> any drives not recommended?
50:18 <xm> "Technically there is no reason it would not work. In fact any future drive, being 10TB or 12TB or so, should work. It's just waiting for Synology to test this disk and give us a go."
50:22 <xm> you are right
51:42 <xm> lol clicking on incompatible models yields all the Seagate 8TB drives
51:43 <xm> https://www.synology.com/en-global/compatibility?search_by=products&category=hdds&p=1&product_bays=2&product_name=DS213air&filter_size=8TB&not_recommend_mode=true
51:55 <Tigger_> I wonder why
52:34 <xm> wait i just realised something
52:51 <xm> ive got my half or so dozen external 4TB drives
53:01 <xm> i can put that in the USB ports of the old NAS
53:20 <xm> if im game i can ta ke them out of the enclosure
53:24 <Warren1984> Tigger_ and xm what do you think? -> http://pastebin.com/18g3khF5
53:39 <Tigger_> I will have a look
53:49 <xm> im not good with this stuff Warren1984
53:59 <xm> anyone taken drives out of a seagate or wd external>
54:01 <xm> ?
54:15 <Arbition> yes
54:33 <Tigger_> it sounds like a lot of work Warren1984
55:05 <Arbition> So what will you do to keep yourself to this plan?
55:06 <xm> Arbition: any issues?
55:18 <xm> there shouldnt be any right
55:20 <Arbition> xm: For 3.5in drives or 2.5in drives?
55:20 <Tigger_> I know ethanol has done that, and found that WD enclosures have an encryption chip, so you can't access data if you just plonk it into your desktop
55:24 <xm> 3.5
55:32 <Arbition> usually a sata bridge
55:50 <Arbition> for 2.5in with usb3, often the control board of the drive is also teh USB bridge chip
55:57 <Arbition> but 3.5in usually ok
56:09 <Arbition> oh I haven't heard that one Tigger_
56:25 <Arbition> sounds pretty plausible though
56:54 <Tigger_> you can just reformat the drive and it'll work in your desktop, the encryption isn't mandatory
57:22 <Arbition> I thought that might be the case, but there is also ATA security stuff, where a key is applied in the controller chip itself
57:30 <Arbition> not actual encryption, but prevents use
57:38 <Arbition> such as the original XBox had
57:48 <Tigger_> that was painful
57:51 <Warren1984> <@Tigger_> it sounds like a lot of work Warren1984 <- but if it's effective then that is good though right?
57:53 <Arbition> I haven't seen that on external drives though
58:17 <Warren1984> it's all about hard work, determination and application
58:28 <Warren1984> Arbition what do you think?
58:35 <Tigger_> Warren1984, if you do your grocery shopping online, then you'll automatically have a list of each item purchased and the price paid
58:47 <Arbition> Warren1984: All sounds good in theory, but you still need to actually do it
58:57 <xm> 11i wonder if it's possible to create a RAID out of external drives connected to a NAS via USB3
59:04 <xm> obviously not recommended, but i dont see why it cant be done
59:05 <Warren1984> true Arbition
59:09 <Tigger_> you could still go to pick up your groceries if you don't want to pay the delivery fee
59:10 <Arbition> So which brings me back to my question, Warren1984: So what will you do to keep yourself to this plan?
59:22 <Warren1984> I have already put this into action Arbition
59:30 <xm> Warren1984 is a man of action
59:38 <Warren1984> and it will continue to be reviewed and updated as necessary
59:49 <xm> Warren1984: do you ever forget to take meds?
59:58 <Arbition> what will you do to keep yourself from drifting from it though, and then 2 days later going "shit I forgot to do stuff"
00:00 <Warren1984> very rarely xm
00:23 <Warren1984> Arbition before doing something I tell myself to look at my SOP booklet
00:40 <Warren1984> and if I forget then I tell myself I didn't use my SOP booklet
00:58 <Tigger_> I suspect hoarding behaviour originates as OCD organising behaviour, but they fall behind in the organising aspect
01:01 <Arbition> the thing about habits is hindsight doesn't get you to keep to habits though
01:07 <Warren1984> I say I can't repeat the same mistake twice
01:20 <Arbition> Telling yourself that doesn't make it true
01:41 <Warren1984> well SOPs work for me
01:46 <Arbition> ok then
02:06 <Warren1984> and the only reason they don't work, is if you never check them
02:33 <Warren1984> it's best not to be spontanous because there is a procedure to follow
03:59 <nube> you appear to be extremely regimented Warren1984
04:16 <nube> do you have a procedure for taking a shit?
04:23 <Warren1984> Arbition like I said before, when I moved out of home the cook dishes tasted like shit
04:32 <Warren1984> so it's my priority to learn how to cook
04:38 <Warren1984> yes nube
04:46 <Tigger_> they probably used very cheap ingredients
04:47 <nube> awesome
08:08 <Arbition> ok my little box PC is now set up and going
08:38 <Tigger_> a micro-ATX motherboard or something?
08:45 <Arbition> no the pcengines APU
09:06 <Tigger_> ah
10:40 Nick: xm is now known as fataznbaby
11:17 Nick: fataznbaby is now known as xm
18:27 <xm> WD greens arent meant for constant torrenting are they?
18:59 <xm> perhaps ill take that risk, as this is just a 3TB drive for downloads thjat are unsorted
19:26 <Tigger_> I haven't looked into this, but it might be that the WD security camera drives (Purple) would be best for torrenting
23:57 <Arbition> how much do you really care about your data for just torrents though
28:08 <xm> taht's what i mean
28:12 <xm> if it goes it means 3TB worth
28:22 <xm> mostly temporary... as it's moved
28:29 <xm> actually it will only be about 2TB worth
28:40 <xm> as the server wont use all 3TB
28:53 <xm> and 500-1000GB is non-torrent that IS mirrored
28:59 <xm> http://techreport.com/news/29251/western-digital-paints-its-green-hard-drives-blue-in-rebranding
29:04 <xm> i didnt know blue is the new red
29:43 <xm> crabjokeman
29:43 <xm> OCT 2805:28 PM+-+75
29:43 <xm> Whoever made this decision should be forced to use a 5400RPM drive for eternity.
29:47 <xm> lol
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30:46 <CLOWN> thestig
31:13 <Tigger_> actually I wonder if the Purple drives are really intended for torrenting all along, but they claim its surveillance, then let people work it out themselves
31:34 <xm> youd only need a 1-2TB Purple for torrents
31:47 <xm> perhaps ill get a 2TB
32:15 <xm> but the price difference between 2TB and 4TB is small i think
33:33 <xm> 3 or 4TB purple is the sweet spot
38:47 <Tigger_> I wonder what the single biggest torrent is
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39:27 <xm> biggest ive done was 660GB i think
39:33 <xm> the james bond collection blu-ray rip
39:34 <xm> you?
40:07 <Tigger_> nothing that big
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40:50 <Tigger_> the complete Mame romset was 240Gb a few versions back, though I didn't use torrents to get it
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05:58 <MalcolmThugLife> radical
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10:41 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you don't crush garlic do you
10:58 <Warren1984> you buy it already crushed, right?
11:22 <MalcolmThugLife> granulated
11:29 <MalcolmThugLife> why waste your life
11:53 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FflIEjWGT8
11:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: How to Chop Garlic (Sep 10, 2008) Length: 1:43 - Category: Howto & Style - 389,233 views views - 342 likes (80.5%), 83 dislikes (19.5%)
13:06 <MalcolmThugLife> Warren1984 how do you think Turnbull's negotiations with the crossbench will go?
13:47 <Warren1984> dunno
14:24 <MalcolmThugLife> Warren1984 do you think Wilkie will form minority gov with him?
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22:32 <Warren1984> no idea
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45:43 <Warren1984> Tigger_ xm and I need to live in the here and now, be practical and active, realistic and self-confident, rather than worry about the future and complain about routine
46:04 <Warren1984> be practical and active in the kitchen using breville products
46:30 <Warren1984> and making clip clop sugar cubes with the Breville sugar cube maker
51:47 <MalcolmThugLife> appliances are the answer Warren1984
58:10 <Warren1984> 1st theory -> 2nd organization -> 3rd action
06:50 <MalcolmThugLife> 4th review
06:53 <MalcolmThugLife> 5th sucide
07:04 <MalcolmThugLife> 6th reincarnation
07:12 <MalcolmThugLife> 7th win
25:17 <MalcolmThugLife> the circle of life
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28:51 <CLOWN> thestig
33:14 <MalcolmThugLife> CLOWN
33:27 <CLOWN> yo
34:00 <MalcolmThugLife> wassup g
35:17 <MalcolmThugLife> check yo' grill
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53:23 <Warren1984> I wonder what work I can do part time
53:23 <Warren1984> I have ruled out everything from past experience
53:23 <Warren1984> there must be something I can do
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05:36 <Lish> Losers
08:46 <Lish> Dull
14:20 <Arbition> oooh steam sale
15:45 <Arbition> aoe2 expansion packs included
17:24 <Lish> Sounds une timing
17:28 <Lish> Unexciting
17:35 <Lish> I just got my husband a steam voucher for his birthday
18:25 <Ozone> is that all he got?
18:47 <Arbition> Warren1984: Might be time to throw those SOPs out the window because games are cheap
18:48 <Lish> $100 voucher
18:53 <Lish> I got him a jumper and some jocks too
19:01 <Lish> And a vape box subscription
19:10 <Ozone> whats a vape box?
19:17 <Lish> Like a loot box
19:21 <Lish> But with vape stuff in it
19:31 <Ozone> like a nicotine patch box
19:34 <Ozone> sounds lame
20:21 <Lish> There's no nicotine in the vape
22:33 <Lish> We are going to Daylesford next weekend with friends
22:38 <Lish> I've never been there, is it near you
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50:06 <Arbition> Well at least I cooked food today
50:11 <Arbition> been far too long
54:45 <CLOWN> what did u cook
05:56 <Arbition> butter chicken
06:19 <CLOWN> yum
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00:59 <Warren1984> Arbition how much money do you need to have in order to be loved?
11:32 <Arbition> what
11:53 <Arbition> it is a variable but surely not the only one
11:59 <Arbition> varies by person etc
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26:37 <MalcolmThugLife> welcome to hell
34:26 <Warren1984> I need a definitive figure
34:39 <MalcolmThugLife> such as
35:00 <Warren1984> do you want a woman who only loves you for your money?
36:23 <MalcolmThugLife> what do you think
37:28 <Warren1984> <Warren1984> Arbition how much money do you need to have in order to be loved?
37:29 <Warren1984> <Arbition> what
37:29 <Warren1984> <Arbition> it is a variable but surely not the only one
37:29 <Warren1984> <Arbition> varies by person etc
37:50 <MalcolmThugLife> look at it this way
38:02 <MalcolmThugLife> you shouldn't be getting married unless you have the means to provide
38:23 <MalcolmThugLife> so you can't blame a woman for not liking you because you leech off her
39:35 <Warren1984> but it's ok for a woman to marry you and take half of your fortune
39:51 <MalcolmThugLife> sign a prenup
40:00 <Warren1984> it's just irrational
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40:18 <Warren1984> it's irrational to believe you need lots of money in order to be loved
40:20 <MalcolmThugLife> the problem is is the abolition of no fault divorce
40:31 <MalcolmThugLife> or the allowing of it I mean
40:37 <MalcolmThugLife> it renders marriage meaningless
40:42 <Warren1984> it's irrational to believe you need lots of money in order to be loved
40:45 <MalcolmThugLife> hence the divorce rate
40:52 <MalcolmThugLife> and the fagginess of this generation
41:02 <MalcolmThugLife> love does not depend on money
41:04 <Warren1984> it's all irrational
41:10 <MalcolmThugLife> but marrirage is not just about love
41:24 <MalcolmThugLife> there is no point saying 'I love you' on the way to the soup kitchen
41:35 <Warren1984> still irrational
41:46 <Warren1984> no logic to it
42:31 <MalcolmThugLife> ok - what is the requirement for marriage
42:38 <Warren1984> love
42:43 <Warren1984> and income
42:49 <MalcolmThugLife> love and income
43:03 <MalcolmThugLife> define love
43:05 <Warren1984> for those who don't get income to get income from the government granted they are disabled
43:07 <MalcolmThugLife> define income
43:29 <Warren1984> so the disabled have rights to love as well
43:49 <Warren1984> love is a logical relationship between 2 people
43:54 <Warren1984> there is no fear
44:30 <MalcolmThugLife> is fear bad?
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47:42 <MalcolmThugLife> fear can be a good thing if it is kept in pespective
49:59 <MalcolmThugLife> Warren1984 did you get your heart broke?
51:04 <Warren1984> yes fear is bad
51:14 <Warren1984> of course I have MalcolmThugLife
51:25 <Warren1984> nearly everyone has
51:55 <MalcolmThugLife> and you deal with it via pills and seeing a retard humanist therapist?
53:44 <Warren1984> a Psychiatrist is a medical doctor, who has studied medicine
54:18 <Warren1984> they know as much or more than nurosergeons
54:48 <MalcolmThugLife> by observation when they can't even observe or recognise what is wrong with themselves
55:07 <Warren1984> MalcolmThugLife and Arbition this is why you think the way you guys do ->
55:11 <Warren1984> When this happens, Eights feel misunderstood and may distance themselves further. In fact, beneath their imposing exterior, Eights often feel hurt and rejected, although this is something they seldom talk about because they have trouble admitting their vulnerability to themselves, let alone to anyone else. Because they fear that they will be rejected (divorced, humiliated, criticized,
55:11 <Warren1984> fired, or harmed in some way), Eights attempt to defend themselves by rejecting others first. The result is that average Eights become blocked in their ability to connect with people or to love since love gives the other power over them, reawakening their Basic Fear.
55:28 <MalcolmThugLife> eights?
56:03 <Warren1984> eights see the would as survival of the fittest
56:12 <MalcolmThugLife> um
56:22 <Warren1984> it's a disorganized way of seeing the world
56:22 <MalcolmThugLife> I am not a Darwinian Evolutionist thanks
56:26 <Warren1984> non-linear
56:59 <MalcolmThugLife> do you think your therapist wants you to surivive
57:08 <MalcolmThugLife> or the people that manufacture your drugs
57:17 <MalcolmThugLife> they hate you
57:22 <MalcolmThugLife> and take your money and laugh
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58:06 <Marttin> http://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2016/07/111.jpg?alias=standard_900x600nc
58:06 <Warren1984> but their money comes from their taxes
58:13 <Warren1984> as I am on the D$P
58:29 <Warren1984> so your reasoning seems not right
58:46 <MalcolmThugLife> you pay tax too
58:56 <MalcolmThugLife> such as the GST
59:25 <MalcolmThugLife> does it seem right to take money from others to give it to a shrink who has you enslaved?
59:38 <Warren1984> he doesn't charge me
59:51 <MalcolmThugLife> he bulk bills?
00:37 <MalcolmThugLife> your meds and your therapy are paid for by the tax payer, when there is nothing wrong with you except your evil heart
12:23 <xm> i just bought a 4TB WD Purple
13:14 <MalcolmThugLife> that will hold alot of stolen media
13:16 <xm> it actually makes sense to. the WD Green would eventually fail under that load. i can use it to manually copy over critical files on the new NAS,a nd copying from the RAID6 to that would be faster within than from NAS to NAS
13:33 <xm> i assure you it's all of my karaoke wave files
14:40 <xm> where was that photo taken Marttin ?
14:46 <MalcolmThugLife> you run a karaoke buisness?
14:52 <Marttin> madrid xmm
14:55 <xm> it's all of my own
15:03 <xm> do you see many muds on the day to day basis Marttin >
15:04 <xm> ?
15:06 <xm> when you do leave home
15:12 <xm> on a*
15:25 <MalcolmThugLife> xm do you have I can't Stand the Rain?
15:44 <Marttin> yes, muds, blacks, south americans and gooks
18:52 <xm> MalcolmThugLife: that is a very old song
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22:20 <CLOWN> DoC
29:05 <shitwood> You CLOWN
29:47 <CLOWN> rat
32:07 Nick: MalcolmThugLife is now known as WaleedTurnbull
34:58 <Warren1984> according to this labor is winning -> http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election?utm_campaign=fedelectionliveresults-lisa&utm_source=toppromo&utm_medium=promo
36:00 <WaleedTurnbull> that's good for your borgeois lifestyle Warren1984
15:08 <shitwood> You CLOWN
15:09 <shitwood> You CLOWN
15:47 <CLOWN> dead rat
16:15 <CLOWN> squashed rat
17:31 <xm> Arbition: you there?
17:33 <xm> http://cplonline.com.au/ups/ups-units/cyberpower-bric-lcd-700va-390w-10a-line-interactive-ups-br700elcd.html
17:38 <xm> will that be good enough for a NAS
22:14 <WaleedTurnbull> cannot believe I lost seats to Shorten
22:17 <WaleedTurnbull> I hate myself now
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25:51 <Lish> Losers
26:15 * xm hangs his head in shame
26:17 <xm> it's true
26:34 <WaleedTurnbull> good day for demonocracy Lish?
26:58 <CLOWN> hey Lish
27:12 <Lish> A real waste of time
27:27 <Lish> Hi
28:13 <Lish> WaleedTurnbull: who are you
28:43 <WaleedTurnbull> I am a Shite neo-conservative
28:47 <Lish> Ok
28:48 <CLOWN> who are you Lish
29:07 <WaleedTurnbull> I am a merchant banker terrorist sympathiser
29:30 <Lish> I'm awesome, that's who I am CLOWN
29:38 <Lish> Ok sounds tiring WaleedTurnbull
33:09 <WaleedTurnbull> and I will use my voodoo powers to form minority gov
33:41 <Lish> Exciting
36:40 <WaleedTurnbull> I will be as loving as Pauline Hanson and as hateful as one of those guys in $1100 spectacles
38:43 <WaleedTurnbull> tell us about you Lish
39:32 <Lish> Well... I don't know
39:36 <Lish> I can tell you what I did today
39:47 <Lish> Went shopping, went to the gym, got a hair cut, went for a walk and cooked soup
41:26 <ajnin> nice day
41:30 <ajnin> lots of things
41:30 <WaleedTurnbull> and now that your life is complete you are on the internets with us
41:48 <ajnin> i did fuck all.. but I am sick
42:02 <ajnin> i did got out for lunch, do shopping, clean the house
42:07 <Lish> Yah now I'm watching real houseiwves and am going to have a magnum
42:09 <ajnin> but apart from that fuck all
42:44 <WaleedTurnbull> it's the Australian way
45:22 <Lish> I'm a bit cold
45:32 <Lish> I need to put some wood in the fire
45:57 <xm> nvm Arbition
45:59 <xm> im buying this
46:00 <xm> http://www.megabuy.com.au/eaton-el1600usbiecau-ellipse-eco-1600va-1000w-usb-ups-p307219.html
46:14 <xm> 11mins of online power during fdowntime :DDD
46:32 <WaleedTurnbull> is that code Lish
46:38 <Lish> No warren
46:45 <Lish> It's a normal person speaking normal words
47:21 <ajnin> hahaah
47:30 <ajnin> how much maintance is an open fire ?
47:44 <ajnin> do you have to desoot the flute or whatever
47:48 <Lish> Yeah
47:50 <ajnin> like in the olden days
47:57 <ajnin> is that a mission ?
47:58 <Lish> This year we had it fully serviced and it cost about $400
47:58 <WaleedTurnbull> clean out the cobwebs
48:11 <Lish> And wood in winter is about $180 per month
48:12 <WaleedTurnbull> often INFJ's can't handle me
48:15 <Lish> Kindling $20 a week
48:19 <Lish> Firefighters $15 a week
48:28 <WaleedTurnbull> but that is because the I am oppressed by rich women
48:34 <WaleedTurnbull> and need more DSP
48:48 <ajnin> fuck.. that seems a bit steep for wood
48:56 <ajnin> i HATE fucking assholes who just burn anything
49:00 <ajnin> stinks up the area
49:09 <Lish> That's reasonable for wood
49:11 <ajnin> we have all these fucking old wogs burning pine
49:20 <Lish> We get hard wood delivered
49:22 <ajnin> and all sorts of old shit wood
49:27 <Lish> Don't buy the bags from servos and stuff, it's a rip off
49:35 <ajnin> yea..
49:41 <ajnin> its a nice heat..
49:45 <Lish> Yeah
49:49 <Lish> It's the only heating we have haha
49:51 <ajnin> ever cook chestnuts or anything like that
49:53 <Lish> So for now it's it
49:55 <WaleedTurnbull> the more expensive the wood the more carbon offset it is
49:56 <Lish> Nah
50:03 <Lish> Boil water on it for tea
50:06 <WaleedTurnbull> the more effecient
50:13 <ajnin> i used to do that when I was little
50:23 <ajnin> haha boil water.. thats cool
50:37 <ajnin> we had a open fire place in a holiday house
50:38 <Lish> Yeah have a kettle
50:42 <Lish> I put on the top of it
50:44 <Lish> And it boils
50:47 <ajnin> nice
51:01 <Lish> It's one of those fireplaces with a door
51:04 <ajnin> i was little then.. dont remember it much
51:21 <ajnin> not like a inbuilt brick one
51:29 <ajnin> like a metal chamber type
51:32 <Lish> Yeah
51:38 <ajnin> they are better I think
52:26 <Lish> Yeah it's good, no smoke gets in the house
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59:05 <Tigger_> It could be a month before Australia knows the final outcome of the federal election, the Australian Electoral Commission says.
59:05 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-03/election-2016-ballot-count-could-take-a-month-finalise,-aec-says/7565158
00:12 <Marttin> another australia related video I found in my historical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wPv0wA-UvE
00:16 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Passport To Progress (Apr 16, 2012) Length: 9:34 - Category: Film & Animation - 6,690 views views - 26 likes (96.3%), 1 dislikes (3.7%)
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01:49 <Marttin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30JFERniCfM beautiful colors
01:53 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Perth - Garden City Shows Its Spring Creations. Australian Colour Diary 3 (Aug 31, 2015) Length: 3:01 - Category: Film & Animation - 1,406 views views - 33 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
02:01 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how confident are you now Liberal is winning
05:05 <Tigger_> I think they'll pull ahead with pre-polls and postal votes
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06:33 <Tigger_> they might decide that Pauline Hanson will have to be the PM
09:46 <Tigger_> it is fairly clear now that it was a major mistake to replace Abbott with Turnbull
10:54 <Tigger_> the argument for Turnbull seems to have been that he can draw centrists from Labor to Liberal, while the right just have to vote Liberal anyway
11:19 <Tigger_> instead what happened is that he didn't draw any swinging centrists over, and the right drifted off to minor parties
11:24 <Tigger_> so failed in every way
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34:38 <Arbition> Warren1984: Does it make you feel more secure that you have classified me by a simple metric? What if I'm not exactly as you have described?
35:18 <Arbition> Could it be that I instead answered genuinely rather than as an attack?
36:27 <Arbition> xm: Ah sorry I was trying out Deus Ex which I got on the steam sale
36:31 <Arbition> I seem to be pretty bad at it
37:27 <Arbition> also I now feel ill and I'm not sure if it is induced motion sickness (I get it from minecraft if I don't turn off view bobbing) or from what i cooked (I left out the rice for about 5 hours between lunch and dinner, figuring, its just bloody rice)
38:30 <Tigger_> rice has a high food poisoning risk, in spite of it seeming to be so innocuous
40:22 <Arbition> well if I don't feel better in half an hour, I'll consider the possibility more seriously
40:27 <Arbition> for now I think I might go for a walk
40:34 <xmm> Tigger i bought the 4tb purple wd
40:45 <xmm> I also bought a ups
40:49 <Tigger_> Arbition, make sure you take your phone with you
41:06 <Tigger_> xmm, wow, you're getting into this very seriously
41:27 <xmm> Pointless getting a good nas with no ups
41:41 <Arbition> phoine is standard kit
43:09 <Tigger_> the Proliant DL380 has two power supplies, you can connect one to the mains, and another to the UPS. I'd hate to think how much power that draws though
47:40 <xmm> I dont think it will work at full capacity all the time, just enough for the battery i hope
48:30 <Tigger_> how long will the UPS run for when the mains loses power?
48:40 <xmm> 11 mins or so
48:49 <xmm> Most are less
49:02 <xmm> But i probably only need 5
49:18 <xmm> The usb to the nas will send a shutdown signal
51:04 <Tigger_> one good thing about UPS's is that they don't go out of date, there are some that are decades old that are still being used
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58:51 <xmm> The batteries can get weaker over time i believe but they are replaceable
59:27 <xmm> I was going to get 3tb instead of 4tb purple but the sweetspot got me
59:47 <xmm> Ive probably spent over 2600 on my server
00:00 <xmm> Everyone beat that!,!!!
00:04 <Tigger_> the only drive sizes that are acceptable to me are: 1, 2, 4, 5, 8
00:18 <WaleedTurnbull> look I think and I really do believe that we live in an age where one can no longer afford to live without 4tb
00:25 <xmm> Lol
00:31 <xmm> Agreed
00:47 <WaleedTurnbull> 3 is for lebs
00:47 <xmm> 3tb is for africa
00:52 <WaleedTurnbull> or plebs
01:55 <Tigger_> there is a 6Tb WD Black that they seem to be pushing harder than the 5Tb model, I'd almost consider forgoing the extra 1Tb so as to avoid that horrible number
02:29 <WaleedTurnbull> get three of them
03:25 <Tigger_> it doesn't really matter now though, the 2Tb Black I have in this machine is now more than half empty, since most of the media has been offloaded to my server
04:38 <Arbition> queasiness is subsiding
05:15 <xmm> Arbition do you have ups
05:22 <Arbition> no
05:47 <WaleedTurnbull> anyone watching the monarchy propaganda on abc?
06:10 <Tigger_> maybe the ABC is coming around to the idea that monarchy is better than democracy
06:46 <WaleedTurnbull> funny how all these leftists not only tolerate but sort of subscribe to this shit
07:00 <WaleedTurnbull> but I suppose why not have a royal family
07:43 <WaleedTurnbull> been going for 65 mins an not one bad word has been said about her
07:51 <WaleedTurnbull> I want to hear someone rubbish her
08:15 <WaleedTurnbull> I want to hear her views on the EU
08:43 <Tigger_> the Royal Family make sure to have their sons, and future kings, serve in the military. so when all this democracy nonsense is done away with the royals have the loyalty of the military
08:46 <WaleedTurnbull> or on her promiscuous inbred family
09:16 <WaleedTurnbull> yeah and the thousands of charities and clubs she is patron of
10:46 <Tigger_> http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/toneban.png
12:49 <WaleedTurnbull> Barnaby must have something going him, don't know what that would be
12:54 <Tigger_> most interesting is that it's the schemers that have lost their seats, Wyatt Roy, Fiona Scott, and Peter Hendy. The Abbott loyalists in the party didn't volunteer their services in the electorate
12:58 <WaleedTurnbull> he can't speaka da english
13:25 <WaleedTurnbull> wyatt thought he was on the fast track
13:35 <WaleedTurnbull> what on earth will he do with his life now?
14:12 <Tigger_> demonstrating vacuum cleaners
14:49 <WaleedTurnbull> one thing the EU is missing - a CSM
14:57 <xmm> Whats the update on canverra?
15:02 <xmm> Canberra
15:04 <WaleedTurnbull> Council of Sham Monarchies
15:16 <WaleedTurnbull> get all the heads together
15:24 <WaleedTurnbull> and make liz the sham overlord
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16:14 <Tigger_> In 2015, following the release of journalist Peter van Onselen's book, Battleground: Why the Liberal Party Shirtfronted Tony Abbott, Hendy came under media attention for his role in the September 2015 Liberal Party leadership spill that saw Malcolm Turnbull replace Tony Abbott as party leader. In his book, van Onselen revealed a meeting of Turnbull supporters took place in Hendy's Queanbeyan home the night before Turnbull mounted his
16:14 <Tigger_> leadership challenge.[12]
17:15 <WaleedTurnbull> can't believe Abbott thought Fiona was a good sort
18:12 <Tigger_> she is an MBA with a career in marketing, two red flags right there
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19:14 <WaleedTurnbull> marketing lol
19:25 <WaleedTurnbull> def prereq for public office
36:10 <Marttin> what happened to Arbition?
36:17 <Arbition> huh?
36:22 <Arbition> what about me?
36:27 <Marttin> werent you sick?
36:38 <Arbition> oh, I already said I was feeling better
36:49 <Marttin> I missed the first part of the conversation
37:28 <Marttin> I mean, what made you ill in first place
37:29 <Marttin> food?
37:59 <Arbition> If it was I would expect to feel much worse
38:16 <Arbition> I think it was just the motion sickness which I've experienced before from games
38:32 <Arbition> it hasn't completely gone away though
38:40 <Marttin> aah
40:49 <Marttin> I have a wonderful videoclip here that wilkl heal you no doubt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i8aVyeRirs&t=1m18s
40:53 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tohsa Na Dekhli Kahin (Milte Najaria) (Apr 30, 2013) Length: 7:08 - Category: Entertainment - 503 views views - likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
42:51 <Marttin>  sending him straight with prom
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54:38 Join: President_Trump ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
55:05 <President_Trump> coffee lols
56:59 <Marttin> ASUS
57:12 <Marttin> where were you yesteday brett
57:26 <Marttin> it was strange not having you with the elections
57:38 <President_Trump> lols
57:45 <President_Trump> dont worry i will be here for the big one
57:51 <Marttin> lol
57:54 <President_Trump> make america great again!
58:11 <Tim-Sim> Does anybody know who won the election? My google is broken
58:26 <Warren1984> <Arbition> Warren1984: Does it make you feel more secure that you have classified me by a simple metric? What if I'm not exactly as you have described?
58:26 <Warren1984> <Arbition> Could it be that I instead answered genuinely rather than as an attack?
58:32 <Warren1984> don't understand Arbition
59:30 <Warren1984> according to this labor are winning -> http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election?utm_campaign=fedelectionliveresults-lisa&utm_source=toppromo&utm_medium=promo
59:53 <Arbition> When you were going "Oh you're type 8"
00:33 <Arbition> then pasting a summary of weaknesses
00:38 <Warren1984> put it this way dark, cynical thoughts about the world enter the psyche via type 8
01:03 <Arbition> yeah and I'm saying that you're summary of it is not neccessarily accurate
01:15 <Warren1984> and it happens this way because we are not sure of how we came to that conclusion
01:45 <Arbition> we?
02:06 <Warren1984> might have to explain myself better
02:08 <WaleedTurnbull> psyche
02:10 <WaleedTurnbull> lol
02:14 <WaleedTurnbull> greek word for soul
02:27 <Warren1984> so the psyche has 4 parts with 2 functions in each part making 8 in total
02:29 <WaleedTurnbull> your psychology is a replacement religion WaleedTurnbull
02:33 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984
02:53 <Warren1984> according to leonore thompson, would has conducted thousands of tests using MRI brain scanners
03:27 <Warren1984> how information enters our psyche determines strongly how we perceive the world
04:00 <WaleedTurnbull> can an MRI tell how depraved a person is
04:16 <Warren1984> these functions are a bit simplified according to my Psychiatrist
04:41 <Tim-Sim> I honestly believed that Liberal would have won it
04:52 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 who is your psychiatrist
04:52 <Arbition> More to the point, you're hoisting these properties onto us from just discussions on the internet, not a systematic assessment from a psychiatrist
05:14 <Warren1984> and our brains have inter-connected cortices
05:18 <WaleedTurnbull> Tim-Sim I thought I would romp in too
05:30 <Arbition> There certainly is no MRI over the internet
05:41 <Warren1984> ahh you want a diagram
05:51 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 you are an OBx10
05:58 <WaleedTurnbull> I just saw it on wikipedia
05:59 <Tim-Sim> Waleed Turnbull...
06:16 <WaleedTurnbull> OBx10 = Oxygen Bandit times 10
06:25 <Tim-Sim> Sorry, I cannot stand Waleed
07:06 <Warren1984> Arbition it's a very lengthy topic
07:15 <Warren1984> I don't really have time at the moment
07:33 <Arbition> What, precisely, is the topic?
07:51 <Arbition> Because I suspect what I think this is about is not what you think this is about
08:22 <WaleedTurnbull> it's about arbitrary application of acronyms
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09:33 <Warren1984> the topic is the physics of the psyche
09:41 <Warren1984> not the chemicals in our brains
09:49 <WaleedTurnbull> what is the psyche
09:53 <Arbition> that is not the topic I signed up for
10:11 <Warren1984> what was the topic you signed up for?
10:23 <Tigger_> Marttin, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHzu69V8Z14
10:28 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Veronicas - In My Blood (Jun 27, 2016) Length: 3:24 - Category: Music - 453,430 views views - likes (98%), 326 dislikes (2%)
10:51 <Arbition> How you have seen something and how it is being innappropriately applied
11:05 <Warren1984> Arbition ask yourself this, why do certain people see the world in a dark, survival of the fittest, every man for himself way?
12:02 <WaleedTurnbull> because they are children of satan
12:04 <Marttin>  I like the fact that everything is red Tigger_, not so much the music
12:05 <Arbition> any particular reason that is relevant?
12:15 <Tigger_> Marttin, you should love the music too
12:27 <Tigger_> what are Warren1984 and Arbition discussing?
12:31 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 what is this psyche you speak of?
12:48 <Arbition> Is this supposed to be a genuine question or a railroading question
13:01 <Warren1984> If you wanted to prove the world is every man for himself you need to organize millions and millions of photos of evidence, in all sorts of locations, unbiasly
13:15 <Tigger_> my question? genuine, as I don't understand what the topic is
13:16 <Arbition> ffs
13:19 <Arbition> yeah I'm done
13:24 <Arbition> bye
13:31 <Warren1984> collect external facts and produce these as evidence
13:46 <Warren1984> lol poor Arbition
14:03 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 if you want to understand the human condition read Gen 3 and Rom 1
14:06 <Warren1984> too quick to judge
14:14 <Warren1984> but that is his problem not mine
14:35 <Tigger_> but what were you two talking about?
14:56 <Warren1984> trying to explain to him the type 8
15:09 <Tigger_> I don't think he's a type 8
15:45 <Warren1984> no but type 8 feeds information to the psyche, where it makes conclusions
16:01 <Warren1984> so he has already cut me off by being too quick to judge
16:16 <Tigger_> I think you are a type 6 with a 5 wing, while Arbition is a type 5 with a 6 wing
16:21 <Warren1984> and that is his problem, because he will never know how it works
16:54 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is what it started with
16:57 <Warren1984> When this happens, Eights feel misunderstood and may distance themselves further. In fact, beneath their imposing exterior, Eights often feel hurt and rejected, although this is something they seldom talk about because they have trouble admitting their vulnerability to themselves, let alone to anyone else. Because they fear that they will be rejected (divorced, humiliated, criticized,
16:57 <Warren1984> fired, or harmed in some way), Eights attempt to defend themselves by rejecting others first. The result is that average Eights become blocked in their ability to connect with people or to love since love gives the other power over them, reawakening their Basic Fear.
17:18 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 what is your ultimate authority
17:34 <Tigger_> that sounds like Malcolm Turnbull
18:16 <Warren1984> Arbition is blocked by blocked by being judgemental as well
18:27 <Warren1984> Arbition is blocked by being judgemental as well
18:35 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 I want original sources of your research
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42:58 <WaleedTurnbull> I love it when someone calls someone else judgement which is itself a judgement
43:02 <WaleedTurnbull> sums up humans
00:54 <Tim-Sim> I am surprised Waleed Aly was not running for Prime Minister
01:49 <Tigger_> he may do one day
02:52 <Tigger_> when the ALP changes its name to the We're Not Really Going To Kill the Infidels Party
12:38 Join: Warren1984 ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
13:01 <Warren1984> lish is on my enemy list
13:05 <Warren1984> and now is Arbition
13:20 <Warren1984> permanent ignore
13:40 <Warren1984> so I don't have to be affected by his judgement
13:41 <Tigger_> why is Arbition on your enemy list? what did he do?
14:02 <Warren1984> he was judgemental towards me
14:14 <Tigger_> I think you're taking it the wrong way
14:27 <Tigger_> 100% sure
16:35 <Warren1984> 100% sure about what Tigger_
17:20 <Tigger_> that you're taking it the wrong way
18:25 Join: xmm ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
19:00 <Tigger_> Seats with highest #informal vote. Blaxland 12.4% Watson 11% Lindsay 11% Fowler 11% McMahon 10.4% Werriwa 9.4% Parramatta 9.4%
19:15 <Tigger_> either a lot of protest votes, or people not understanding procedure
20:17 <WaleedTurnbull> I am PM
20:28 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 you are very judgement
20:29 <WaleedTurnbull> al
20:35 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 you are very judgemental
21:19 Join: Lordzim ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
21:25 <WaleedTurnbull> yo
23:18 <Lordzim> yo, interesting nick
24:40 <WaleedTurnbull> thank you Lord
24:47 <WaleedTurnbull> it denotes who I am
24:51 <WaleedTurnbull> and what I believe
25:04 <WaleedTurnbull> it is an ontological statement
25:08 <Tigger_> http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b2d9978f952bd1e502cdc3fb5083d3d5 such a sexy man
25:47 <Marttin> lol
26:17 <Lordzim> ontological. mm. large word
27:14 <Warren1984> doesn't matter if I am taking in the wrong way Tigger_
27:22 <Warren1984> no one is responsible for my feelings
27:25 <Lordzim> 404: image not found
27:47 <Warren1984> just don't talk to certain people
27:55 <Warren1984> not my fault I find it hard to explain
28:41 <Warren1984> I am just not elite enough
28:59 <Tigger_> straight from the sex predator watch list to the Sex Party
29:24 <Lordzim> post the link again
29:24 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 your feelings depend solely on your socio-economic status, whether you have been oppressed by the man
29:36 <Tigger_> http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b2d9978f952bd1e502cdc3fb5083d3d5
29:44 <Tigger_> if that doesn't work, I'll reupload to imgur
31:44 <Warren1984> <Lordzim> post the link again <- what link
32:44 <Tigger_> the sex party link
32:48 <xm> Warren1984: http://interestingengineering.com/200-mw-handheld-laser-gun-powerful-ever/ <--- should Clip Clop mount that on his head and go around shooting lasers at hippies?
33:40 <Warren1984> yes xm
34:16 <Tigger_> you could set fire to people's houses with that
34:31 <xm> did you hear about the WA mosque firebombing, Tigger_ ?
34:49 <Tigger_> yes, I wondered if they did it themselves
35:34 <WaleedTurnbull> false flag
35:48 <Warren1984> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-29/firebombing-ant-islam-graffiti-attack-at-thornlie-mosque-school/7552394
37:34 <Tigger_> "The Perth community was visited this evening by hate," Yahya Adel Ibrahim said on Facebook. "Thankfully our community won't start hating and playing blame games and singling out groups of people in our society.
37:38 <Tigger_> the sanctimony
37:46 <WaleedTurnbull> I suppose it's no worse than anglo catholics doing insurance jobs on their run down churches
38:44 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbVJU1CuM0Q
38:46 <xm> quite funny
38:49 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The magnificent arrest of Paul Charles Dozsa (Sep 5, 2013) Length: 1:09 - Category: Comedy - 271,588 views views - 2,388 likes (99.6%), 10 dislikes (0.4%)
40:26 <Warren1984> Tigger_ have you ever had your feelings hurt?
41:03 <Lordzim> watch as muslims respond by shooting up a cafe
41:04 <Warren1984> well Tigger_?
41:06 <Lordzim> or bombing somewhere
41:10 <Tigger_> yes, when I call a cat and it doesn't come to me, that is very hurtful
43:04 <Tigger_> why do you ask Warren1984?
45:21 <Tim-Sim> Disappointing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWBhT9hyoHA
45:25 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Australian Islamist Al-Wahwah Calls to Lead “the Armies of Jihad That Will Conquer Europe, the U.S.” (Apr 12, 2016) Length: 2:18 - Category: News & Politics - 10,608 views views - likes dislikes
46:05 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXI7170ahNI
46:10 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Stupid Cop doesn't know what he's giving me a ticket for. Pretty damn funny. (Nov 25, 2012) Length: 10:37 - Category: People & Blogs - 4,057,686 views views - 38,103 likes (95.3%), 1,881 dislikes (4.7%)
46:46 <President_Trump> Microsoft announced today that after July 17, 2017, only the "most critical" security fixes will be released for those platforms and those fixes will only be made available if they don't "risk the reliability or compatibility" of Windows 7 and 8.1 on other (non-Skylake) systems.
49:44 <Tigger_> they had previously said security fixes until 2020
50:08 <Tigger_> I wonder if anything has actually changed, or if it's just a scare to drive more Win10 adoption
50:18 <Tim-Sim> Linux Mint 18 came out a few days ago
50:22 <President_Trump> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/
52:01 <Tigger_> The full range of compatibility and security fixes will be published for non-Skylake machines for Windows 7 until January 14 2020, and for Windows 8.1 until January 10 2023.
53:32 <WaleedTurnbull> you shall upgrade
53:42 <WaleedTurnbull> if you upgrade it will go well with you in the land
54:54 <Tigger_> I just don't want to, I like Win7
58:58 <Warren1984> <@Tigger_> yes, when I call a cat and it doesn't come to me, that is very hurtful
58:58 <Warren1984> <@Tigger_> why do you ask Warren1984? <- just seeing if you had feelings
59:29 <WaleedTurnbull> Warren1984 can I borrow a feeling?
59:56 <Warren1984> what do you mean WaleedTurnbull
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