// #politicaldebate — 2016-07-22
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00:00:54 <President_Trump> gingrich said that lyin ted left a line out of the speech
00:01:03 <President_Trump> 'and the only one who can do that is donald trump'
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00:03:20 <Tigger_> so many people who have worked with him have reported him to be duplicitous, now it's the entire party
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00:04:10 <President_Trump> ivanka needs a good speech tomorrow so she can be the first woman president
00:06:31 <IvanTheBastard> trigger i assumed it was troll
00:07:26 <President_Trump> it was hobbs
00:07:39 <President_Trump> loopy
00:08:13 Quit: newbie ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
00:08:32 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn5BFQrUkAEi-ST.jpg
00:08:34 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllllll
00:08:38 <President_Trump> fail
00:09:07 Quit: tjj44 ([email protected]) Quit: ouoiuj
00:09:27 <Tigger_> that's another thing I'm looking forwards too, 8 solid years of red hot paranoia
00:09:33 <Warren1984> <xm> can you hear the rain too Warren1984 ? <- yes
00:11:30 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn47YL4W8AAQLkT.jpg
00:13:52 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/police-shoot-autistic-mans-black-carer-in-north-miami-florida/news-story/c591a00c081dad5925395eee60601d3a
00:14:45 <Warren1984> xm -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMuqSlao6d8
00:14:50 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Hocus Pocus - Here's Johnny (Feb 21, 2011) Length: 4:48 - Category: Music - 123,667 views views - 441 likes (91.9%), 39 dislikes (8.1%)
00:15:21 <Tigger_> And I’m saying, ‘Sir, why did you shoot me?’ and his words to me, he said, ‘I don’t know,” he added.
00:20:03 <Tigger_> what race is the cop?
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00:23:05 <President_Trump> oh well
00:23:12 <President_Trump> best to sit back and wait for the real story to come out
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00:35:21 <mR> the real story came out before you even had a dick
00:35:57 <mR> fucking puppet
00:36:19 <President_Trump> lololllllllllllllllllllllll
00:37:17 <mR> :P~
00:42:13 <mR> lalalallalalalalaallalalala
00:53:13 <Tigger_> one thing I've liked about this election is how libertardianism has been pushed to the margins, where it belongs: http://imgur.com/gallery/pSbjc
00:54:08 <President_Trump> mrwuf wanted people at home to vote on their iphones each day on how to run the country
00:55:20 <Tigger_> you'd end up with people voting for contradictory things: 1. Reduce taxes, 2. increase spending on social programs
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00:56:26 <Marttin> the slow computer is a Intel Celeron(R) 3.06 ghz 960 mb ram Tigger_
00:57:29 <Tigger_> that is slow, but the main bottleneck is probably the ram
00:57:36 <President_Trump> he wanted daily voting on items
00:59:10 <President_Trump> what is the fast computer?
00:59:19 <President_Trump> 960mb of ram lol
01:00:09 <Warren1984> I have 16GB DDR4
01:00:18 <Warren1984> but I want 128GB DDR4
01:00:32 <Tigger_> Spanish computers have names like "The Siesta 5000"
01:00:32 <Warren1984> nuh
01:00:33 <President_Trump> what for?
01:00:38 <Marttin> lol
01:00:40 <President_Trump> u dont need more than 16 loser
01:00:40 <Warren1984> playing AOE 2
01:01:13 <Warren1984> President_Trump how can you tell if something is real or just a product of your imagination
01:01:33 <President_Trump> you cant
01:01:59 <Warren1984> I guess it's like saying how can you control your imagination
01:02:28 <Warren1984> u need xanax to calm the fuck down, son
01:02:46 <Tigger_> with 128Gb ram you could load the entire OS into ram and execute everything there
01:02:51 <Tigger_> a ram disk
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01:04:48 <mR> with a Big vagina you could smear it all over your face
01:05:07 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can I use lists to reduce forgetfulness and indecisiveness
01:05:10 <mR> sorry had to do it
01:05:16 <Warren1984> here is the problem with being indecisive
01:05:22 <Warren1984> not having a productive day
01:05:29 <Warren1984> not learning something new
01:05:41 <Warren1984> not spending time with friends
01:07:19 <Tim-Sim> Shit in Turkey is going down. Erodan has sacked +50,000 government workers in what he calls a 'cleanse'
01:07:36 <Tigger_> The performance of a RAM drive is in general orders of magnitude faster than other forms of storage media, such as an SSD, hard drive, tape drive, or optical drive.[1] This performance gain is due to multiple factors, including access time, maximum throughput, and type of file system.
01:07:41 <Tigger_> RAM drives use the normal RAM in main memory as if it were a partition on a hard drive rather than actually accessing the data bus normally used for secondary storage. Though RAM drives can often be supported directly from the operating system via special mechanisms in the operating system kernel, it is possible to also create and manage a RAM drive by an application. Usually no battery backup is needed due to the temporary nature of the
01:07:41 <Tigger_> information stored in the RAM drive, but an uninterrupted power supply can keep the entire system running during a power outage, if necessary.
01:08:22 <Tigger_> I hope the EU rushes through Turkey's EU membership
01:08:48 <Tim-Sim> Why? Do you want to see the EU in civil war?
01:09:04 <Tigger_> yes, bring in the worst elements to rip the entire thing apart
01:09:37 <Tim-Sim> interesting
01:10:16 <Tigger_> once Turkey is in it, other countries will quickly head for the exit, leaving it just Germany and Turkey
01:10:25 <Tim-Sim> lol
01:11:08 <President_Trump> turkey would have better millitary than germany
01:14:11 <mR> so tigger whatsd the best option ?
01:15:35 <Tigger_> the best option: http://imgur.com/gallery/W48vT
01:16:35 <President_Trump> lol
01:16:45 <President_Trump> flying that flag too
01:17:31 <Tigger_> must be a talented tenth
01:30:37 <Tim-Sim> Erdogan called the attempted coup a 'blessing from God' for the opportunity it has granted him to weed out his opposition
01:32:08 <Tigger_> sure sounds false flagish
01:33:41 <circle> http://www.w24.co.za/Wellness/Mind/Survivors-guide-to-partying-with-Afrikaners-20121213
01:33:49 <circle> afrikaners are the greatest whites
01:34:33 <Tim-Sim> It does indeed
01:34:55 <Tigger_> losers who gave their country away
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01:35:04 <circle> are you retarded Tigger_?
01:35:10 <circle> you think it was the afrikaners?
01:35:10 <Tigger_> that's what they did
01:35:12 <circle> it was the anglos
01:35:13 <Tigger_> it was
01:35:15 <Tigger_> wrong
01:35:22 <circle> afrikaners voted AGAINST giving blacks the vote
01:35:27 <circle> we've already discussed this
01:35:40 <Tigger_> afrikaners voted more than anglos for that outcome
01:35:42 <circle> afrikaners maintained the entire system even against huge pressure from anglos
01:35:44 <circle> lol
01:36:18 <circle> you are wrong
01:36:22 <circle> i proved you wrong last time
01:36:24 <Tigger_> well that's what they did
01:36:27 <circle> source?
01:36:36 <Tigger_> jared taylor has written about it
01:36:43 <circle> lol
01:38:11 <Tigger_> it couldn't really be otherwise, anglos are a warrior race, the Dutch are not
01:38:52 <circle> 0/10
01:39:06 <President_Trump> http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/20/cleveland-police-protests-flag/
01:41:14 <Tim-Sim> The problem with RAM drives is when the computer shutsdown, all the memory has to be stored to a hard drive. Then when booting up, it all has to be loaded into RAM again. Also, if the computer freezes or power goes out, what ever data that was not saved to hard drive is lost
01:42:29 <Tigger_> it certainly has its risks
01:42:30 <Tigger_> How did the people of the Great Trek, the Battle of Blood River, and the Boer War vote? They feared international isolation more than they feared black rule; whites voted 68 to 31 percent for “continuation of the reform process.” Nor was this a decision forced upon Afrikaners by white English-speakers. Though some militant groups boycotted the referendum, all election analysts agree that a majority of Afrikaners voted “yes,
01:42:31 <Tigger_> ” and some even believe there was more support among Afrikaners than British South Africans.
01:44:14 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I need to be decisive about tomorrow
01:44:23 <Warren1984> any action I can take?
01:44:45 <Tigger_> it must be accepted that Germans, and by extension the Dutch, are a weak people, they are not eager for a fight like celts and slavs
01:45:06 <Tigger_> to write it in CherryTree
01:45:10 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I need to be an organized ISTP
01:45:36 <Warren1984> yeah but I need ideas
01:45:45 <Warren1984> working on the car
01:45:54 <Warren1984> going to bunnings and doing manly stuff
01:46:00 <Warren1984> or supercheap auto
01:46:08 <Warren1984> like using a chainsaw
01:46:17 <Warren1984> to cut strums door down
01:47:56 <Tigger_> Eugene TerreBlanch, a typical Afrikaner, supposedly a white supremacist yet hires black employees, who then murder him:
01:47:58 <Tigger_> On April 3, 2010, the controversial AWB leader was hacked and beaten to death on his Ventersdorp farm, allegedly by two of his employees.
01:48:07 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Terre%27Blanche
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01:56:34 <Warren1984> hey Marttin
01:56:39 <Marttin> hi Warren1984
01:56:53 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what would you do if Max Dell punched clip clop in the balls?
02:06:52 <Tigger_> Warren1984, what do your parents think of the blacks in South Africa?
02:08:22 <President_Trump> Warren1984's dad votes labor so he probably has a high opinion of blacks in sa
02:14:53 <President_Trump> Texas Senator Ted Cruz was denied entry into billionaire GOP donor Sheldon Adleson’s suite following his speech at the Republican National Convention Wednesday night, Independent Journal Review has confirmed.
02:14:53 <President_Trump> A former U.S. Senator inside the Adelson’s luxury box at the Quicken Loans arena told Independent Journal Review that Cruz approached the suite after he finished his speech that fell short of endorsing Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.
02:14:53 <President_Trump> Cruz was not welcome in the suite “because he’s a piece of sh*t,” the Senator said.
02:15:50 <Warren1984> they don't really like them Tigger_
02:15:59 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HvCXLGx5Ro
02:16:04 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Rammstein - Stripped (Uncensored Version) (Heavy Mental Mix) With English & Russian Lyrics (Mar 3, 2016) Length: 5:42 - Category: Music - 66,336 views views - likes (87.1%), 42 dislikes (12.9%)
02:16:07 <Tigger_> Warren1984, did they explain why they don't like niggers?
02:16:39 <Warren1984> more uncivilized
02:17:08 <Tigger_> Lying Ted will always be welcome at Goldman Sachs
02:17:25 <Tigger_> what made them migrate to Australia?
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02:24:16 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn5tVMtUEAAOxMS.jpg
02:24:37 <Tigger_> Hillary is paying for it
02:28:36 <President_Trump> http://www.speciallifeentertainment.com/wikileaks-dispenses-23000-hillary-emails-marked-c-confidential-classified/
02:31:44 <Tigger_> he more or less said she was a crook
02:32:22 <President_Trump> lol carli fiorina did a big no show as well, didnt even notice
02:33:23 <Tigger_> she missed her window, next election Marissa Meyer will be the star failed female IT CEO
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02:37:03 <Tigger_> sleep time
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03:07:41 <none> if I cant
03:07:56 <none> why the fuck should you
03:08:16 <none> grow the fuck up
03:15:44 <none> let's flirt with morons
03:15:54 <none> let's be morons
03:16:39 <none> sorry but if I look stupid it's cause you make be crazy how dumb you are
03:17:00 <none> fuck you all
03:17:20 <none> I want to talk to
03:17:29 <none> a real fucken person
03:17:55 <none> none this oh nick names
03:18:10 <none> where is a real person
03:18:30 <none> or you all to fucken scared I'm smarter than you
03:20:15 <none> end your bullshit
03:21:05 <none> u started this I will end it
03:22:15 <none> sorry but I don't believe a word u say
03:22:35 <none> never have never willl
03:23:15 <none> u treat me like a pet
03:23:20 <none> I'm human
03:23:45 <none> u are all fucken lowlifes
03:24:10 <none> every single one of you
03:24:20 <none> don't fucken lie to god
03:24:45 <none> God will strike u down
03:25:20 <none> and what u done to others will be done apon u
03:25:30 <none> trillion fold
03:26:00 <none> u will Rott in hell
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03:27:50 <none-> shut up chris you faggot
03:27:58 <none-> end you cunt
03:28:01 <none-> right now
03:28:11 <none> come
03:28:12 <none-> pop ya bong and end you
03:28:23 <none-> stick it right up your asshole
03:28:29 <none> come
03:28:31 <none-> faggot fuk
03:28:41 <none> come I stab u
03:29:06 <none> with my cock
03:29:10 <none-> with what cunt?
03:29:15 <none> faggot fuck
03:29:30 <none> u shut up
03:29:33 <none-> you couldnt stab a slice of bread ya faggot
03:29:58 <none> who are u scared little boy
03:30:03 <none> be a man
03:30:14 <none-> no one is scared of you faggot
03:30:29 <none> you are
03:30:39 <none> why u want me to shutup
03:31:29 <none> how about u go blow a goat
03:31:51 <none-> how about you blow me you faggot
03:31:58 <none-> on ya knees cunt
03:32:43 <none> why u praying to me cunt
03:32:58 <none> u should shut up cunt
03:33:08 <none-> make me you faggot cunt
03:33:23 <none> show me who u are
03:34:13 <none> u cunt should fuck right off
03:34:23 <none-> you cunt should try and make me
03:34:46 <none-> all we have ever done is try to help you and be your friend
03:34:58 <none-> all you have done is abuse and lied to us
03:35:16 <none-> you get fuck all from us from now on
03:35:21 <none> stalker
03:35:31 <none> I've never had one friend
03:35:41 <none-> thats because you abuse them
03:36:02 <none> that's cause u think u smarter than me
03:36:10 <none-> that's cause i am
03:36:11 <none> when u aint
03:36:31 <none> how being a hooker makes u smart???
03:36:46 <none-> whos a hooker?
03:37:07 <none> you with your gutter mouth
03:37:17 <none> faggot??
03:37:19 <none-> if only i was a hooker
03:37:23 <none-> id make heaps of money
03:37:24 <none> grow up
03:37:30 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/mediaite/posts/10150728853154963
03:37:45 <none-> you grow up first chris
03:38:06 <none-> youre 37 years old
03:38:17 <none-> and youre still being a faggot
03:38:42 <none> I'm not one trying to control me
03:38:52 <none> u grow up
03:38:57 <none-> no one is trying to control you
03:39:03 <none-> you do drugs like a faggot
03:39:13 <none> bull fucken shit
03:39:25 <none-> only a faggot would smoke weed
03:39:40 <none> why do u fucken have to say faggot
03:39:45 <none> are you gay
03:40:02 <none-> yeah im gay and so are you cause you smoke weed
03:40:14 <none-> only faggots smoke weed
03:40:19 <none> only gay homos use that word every fucken ten words
03:41:25 <none> all my life u fucken morons look down on me cause I'm better than you
03:41:45 <none> I had enough of shit
03:42:05 <none> it's not me needs too grow up its you
03:42:05 <none-> if you were 'better than everyone' you wouldn't be a junkie faggot
03:42:13 <none-> only faggots smoke weed
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03:42:25 <none> I'm not a junkie or gay
03:42:33 <none-> but you are a faggot
03:43:28 <none> if a guy got naked near me I would punch the faggot till they don't breathe
03:43:43 <none> u saying faggot
03:43:50 <none-> but you are a faggot
03:43:55 <none> makes me want to hit u
03:44:05 <none> I'm not a faggot
03:44:19 <none-> stop doing drugs then ya faggot
03:44:25 <none> is Jen female
03:44:53 <none-> nah shes a tranny
03:45:00 <none-> chix wif dix
03:45:05 <none> lol
03:45:10 <none> nah man
03:46:16 <none> u fucken think knowing ppl helps in anyway
03:46:23 <none-> she gave you 3 chances to pull ya fukn head in
03:46:23 <none> u grow up
03:46:35 <none-> you still carry on and do drugs like a faggot
03:46:40 <none> wtf
03:47:05 <none> have I slept with jen
03:47:08 <lordzim> hey
03:47:11 <lordzim> is pliv around
03:47:11 <none> no
03:47:21 <none> so I don't care
03:47:28 <none-> and youd never get that chance ever again
03:47:38 <none> so what
03:47:39 <none-> EVER
03:47:40 <none-> EVER
03:47:43 <none-> !!!
03:47:43 <none> so
03:47:58 <none> I don't care
03:48:17 <none-> you do cause you still carry on about her like a stalking faggot
03:48:28 <none> what
03:48:33 <none> I'm not doing anything
03:49:03 <none> u are complain about me
03:49:10 <none-> cause youre a faggot
03:49:10 <none> cause u do it
03:49:16 <none> not me
03:50:06 <none> anyone that sided with izzy on anything is a fucken moron
03:50:21 <none> so shut up
03:50:26 <none> stalker
03:50:26 <none-> anyone who smashes other peoples windows is a faggot
03:50:56 <lordzim> wtf is this
03:51:01 <none> it was broken by izzy
03:51:09 <none-> bullshit faggot
03:51:09 <none> with a beer bottle
03:51:14 <none-> it was smashed by you cunt!
03:51:25 <none> no go fuck yourself
03:51:31 <none-> you first faggot
03:51:56 <none> it was broken for past fucken 9 months
03:52:04 <none-> bullshit faggot
03:52:05 <none> so u go to hell
03:52:08 <none-> bullshit faggot
03:52:19 <none> car has been parked for over a year
03:52:23 <none-> bullshit faggot
03:52:28 <none> u go fuck yourswlf
03:52:33 <none-> you first faggot
03:54:28 <none> ..................
03:54:43 <none> stop u stalker cunt
03:55:14 <none-> you reckon everyone is a stalker
03:55:25 <none-> it's YOU who's a stalker!
03:56:05 <none> who are u then
03:56:15 <none> u going off at me
03:56:23 <lordzim> struth
03:56:27 <lordzim> can you both cut it out already
03:56:30 <lordzim> starting to piss me off.
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06:24:18 <Rant> oh i missed all the fun :(
06:24:26 <Rant> wow none is pissed
06:24:29 <Rant> is it a m or f?
07:03:33 <Rant> this time difference sucks
07:47:21 <Rant> http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/288715-michael-moore-trump-is-going-to-win
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08:03:53 <Rant> hi Glenn
08:04:07 <Glenn> gOOD MORNING.
08:04:15 <Glenn> Good morning.
08:04:41 <Rant> morning
08:04:44 <Rant> what time is it there?
08:19:32 <Glenn> 8.20am, and the weather outside is crap.
08:20:57 <Rant> 6:20PM Here
08:23:51 <Glenn> That was yesterday. The world has moved forward quite a bit since then. :P
08:24:44 <Rant> haha :)
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09:51:34 <Warren1984> hi all
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10:02:33 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Tigger_
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10:03:19 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
10:03:24 <Tigger_> hello Warren1984
10:03:54 <Tigger_> it seems I need an NBN router, I thought my old network switches would work
10:07:25 <Warren1984> Is it limiting your speed
10:07:55 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why do I keep doubting my own conclusions and why am I always seeking more information
10:08:11 <Tigger_> it means I can only connect one computer to the NBN at a time, so my home network is no longer functional
10:09:06 <Tigger_> ultimately you need practical results to validate the theory
10:09:44 <Warren1984> some theories are hard to generate practical results
10:10:11 <Warren1984> for example how do you put evolution into practical results
10:10:47 <Warren1984> my conclusion about doing tasks is type 1 -> type 7
10:11:25 <Warren1984> type 1 is about organizing, planning, prioritizing, time management and type 7 is about completing the task
10:12:08 <Tigger_> it's very hard to validate evolution, especially of vertebrates, as you can't observe it in a human lifetime
10:14:24 <Warren1984> getting organized and taking action
10:14:45 <Warren1984> rather than believing the world is about "survival of the fittest"
10:15:52 <Arbition> its not so much you need an NBN router as much as, you still need a router. Many ADSL modems are actually integrated modems and routers, you can get them seperate so really its no different. You need a router to do NAT, DHCP and so on
10:16:01 <Warren1984> before taking action you need planning, prioritizing
10:16:46 <Tigger_> actually there was an attempt to put evolution into practical results, the Soviets believed in Lysenko's Lamarkian evolutionary theories, and so tried to change the environment to force evolution in a particular path, which is how the Aral Sea was ultimately destroyed
10:16:46 <Arbition> even if it were IPv6 (which I highly doubt) you'd still need a router
10:17:21 <Tigger_> so I can plug my old ADSL modem/router in?
10:17:49 <Arbition> Not unless it has a specifc "WAN" port
10:18:13 <Tigger_> I'll look it up
10:19:24 <Arbition> even if it does though, it may not be capable of utilising the full bandwidth
10:19:51 <Tigger_> once I have the right router, then any standard network switch can then chain into it after that?
10:19:57 <Arbition> sure
10:20:24 <Tigger_> that's good
10:21:07 <Tigger_> it has an EWAN port
10:21:20 <Arbition> that might be it, depends what the E stands for
10:21:45 <Arbition> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1511563
10:21:52 <Arbition> looks like it might do the trick
10:21:58 <Arbition> just might need a bit of config
10:22:27 <Arbition> to switch its function from a switch port to the external network port
10:22:44 <Tigger_> that is my router
10:22:58 <Arbition> yep that'd be it then
10:24:31 <Tigger_> I am going to have to move my router from upstairs to downstairs, there will be quite a bit of fiddling
10:25:45 <Warren1984> Arbition is it wise to be wealth seeking, in order to be the dominant one in a relationship with a woman?
10:26:00 <Warren1984> so the underlying motive is to seek wealth
10:26:01 <Arbition> I wouldn't know
10:26:08 <Tigger_> and yes, it has an ADSL mode, and an EWAN mode, which I'll have to set in the configuration
10:26:17 <Warren1984> I wouldn't get along with dominant women
10:26:33 <Warren1984> it might create domestic violence
10:27:02 <Arbition> dafuq
10:27:11 <Rant> what if she just want to be dominant when it comes to insisting in doing all the dishes, and housework , and cooking , and doing lawn work?
10:27:14 <Rant> i'd be ok with that :D
10:27:40 <Warren1984> Arbition what do you think of dominant women?
10:28:30 <Arbition> I actually don't really know. I've never really had much experience with women beyond superficial interactions beyond my immediate family
10:28:37 <Arbition> and I don't really know how to classify it
10:28:46 <Arbition> I also am not prioritising this classification
10:28:53 <Arbition> because I don't particulalrly care
10:29:16 <Warren1984> Rant I wouldn't expect her to be dominant in anything, as I like to be able to do everything myself, independent and self-reliant
10:29:34 <Rant> nothing wrong with sharing responsibilities when you're married
10:29:47 <Rant> you can't do everything, plus , you have 2 poeple use your ressources
10:29:59 <Warren1984> I see sharing a house with a wife/girlfriend as a team effort
10:30:09 <Rant> yeah
10:30:11 <Warren1984> yes sharing responsibilities
10:30:22 <Rant> thre are things i like doing , and things she does that i have no interst in so it works
10:30:24 <Warren1984> you see a less mature man will refuse to do house work
10:30:39 <Rant> LOL
10:30:48 <Rant> nothing wrong with housework
10:30:54 <Warren1984> yeah but you can't become dependent on her doing that... because what if you break up
10:31:06 <Rant> many guys live alone that do their own stuff, i have and do
10:31:29 <Warren1984> I do most of the chores because my Mum works
10:31:35 <Rant> thats good
10:31:46 <Warren1984> she expects me to do them... and I don't really have a problem with that
10:31:50 <Tigger_> I will have to have something to eat before I tackle the router EWAN issue
10:32:19 <Rant> Warren1984 you're a modern man thats why y ou do that
10:32:34 <Warren1984> yes exactly Rant
10:32:44 <Rant> even my father who is from the old gen. helped my mother plus he suported the household
10:34:02 <Rant> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lpyG-ddec republican convention live
10:34:06 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Republican National Convention Live Stream [Official] (Date not found) Length: 0 - Category: People & Blogs - - 12,179 likes (67.8%), 5,785 dislikes (32.2%)
10:34:26 <Rant> good bot
10:34:31 <Warren1984> when tackling house chores, it's best not to procrastinate and also do them fast and accurately
10:34:49 <Warren1984> it's easier to deal with things you don't enjoy if you do them fast
10:34:58 <Rant> haha thats a good way of looking at it
10:35:04 <Warren1984> when you procrastinate you begin to think
10:35:23 <Warren1984> think rather than do
10:37:34 <Rant> i have tried to minimize my cleaning chores by using irobots
10:37:55 <Rant> nothing to do with apple
10:39:06 <Arbition> wooo the ghost if Isaac Asimov
10:39:29 <Warren1984> Rant do you like this song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6PhFXTEihk&list=RDGMEMYH9CUrFO7CfLJpaD7UR85wVMU4QFZgs6wvk&index=2
10:39:34 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Klaas & Bodybangers - I Like (Official Video HD) (Sep 14, 2011) Length: 3:02 - Category: Entertainment - 15,638,029 views views - likes (89.5%), 6,488 dislikes (10.5%)
10:40:24 <Rant> yeah , thats a good party song
10:43:14 <Tigger_> actually I'd expect a robot that really does a good job on domestic cleaning will be the most valuable invention of all time, far eclipsing the worth of MS, Google, Apple
10:44:31 <Rant> http://www.irobotweb.com/~/media/Images/iRobot/Robots/HRD/Roomba/600%20Series/Anatomy/irobot-roomba-600-sideview.jpg?h=397&la=en&w=663 this is what i have, similar
10:44:59 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is what Putin thinks about materialistic people -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL6sgdNACuE
10:45:03 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Putin Owns Greedy Billionaire (Sep 30, 2015) Length: 1:30 - Category: News & Politics - 7,571 views views - 62 likes (96.9%), 2 dislikes (3.1%)
10:46:19 <Tigger_> I don't think it'll happen for a very long time yet though, the roomba is still extremely dumb, it can't find its way around very well, which is the most basic task
10:46:36 <Rant> i disagree
10:46:43 <Rant> i've had 2 for many years and they do a very good job
10:46:56 <Rant> perhaps you had a bad one as i had a failed one too that was replaced
10:47:19 <Rant> they truly are great, i was skeptical at first, my original one i have over 6 years, changed the battery once
10:47:59 <Rant> its important to keep it clean
10:48:11 <Tigger_> heh, "Give me back my pen", Putin is one tough introvert
10:48:31 <Warren1984> It's rude to steal someones pen
10:48:57 <Tigger_> so they've improved the roomba's learning ability?
10:49:08 <Rant> indeed
10:49:16 <Tigger_> that's good
10:49:29 <Rant> but like i said, some do go crazy i had one like that LOL
10:49:31 <Warren1984> If you really want to see Putin owning rich greedy people then you need to watch this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is
10:49:36 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Rise of Putin and The Fall of The Russian-Jewish Oligarchs (1/2) (Oct 20, 2013) Length: 50:33 - Category: News & Politics - 578,189 views views - 2,250 likes (89%), 277 dislikes (11%)
10:49:40 <Rant> i was happy it was still under warrantee
10:51:11 <Rant> a new battery from them comes to about 100.00 canadian dollars, so i found one from ebay from china for only 38.00 and it was more power capacity LOL
10:51:22 <Rant> 100 is a ripp off
10:52:07 <Tigger_> so the local distributor extortion racket
10:52:18 <Rant> yea exaxly Tigger_
10:52:58 <Rant> did you fill up your new spice jars?
10:53:30 <Tigger_> exactly like my Panasonic projector, $5600 AU to buy locally, slightly under $3,000 AU to import it myself
10:53:42 <Rant> wow
10:53:42 <Tigger_> no I forgot to buy the sticky labels last night
10:54:08 <Rant> they will look nice
10:54:22 <Tigger_> I did not take a shopping list with me, I assumed I'd remember when I was there
10:55:10 <Rant> happens
10:55:51 <Tigger_> I will go back tonight
10:55:57 <Rant> President_Trump you watching trump talk tonight?
10:56:03 <Rant> 9pm here
10:56:10 <Rant> thursday
10:59:32 <Tigger_> he will
11:01:49 <Arbition> Careful now, Chinese are notorious for completely lying about battery capacities. Not just fudging them a little, slapping on whatever value they want. 1000mAh battery? Just say it is 3400mAh
11:02:54 <Arbition> Even msy sells a bunch of external USB battery things, which I suspect are also completely lying about their capacity
11:03:04 <Arbition> battery capacity and price have a high correlation
11:04:04 <Tigger_> Dick Smith branded batteries used to be good, but then it seems their manufacturer started cutting costs and quality
11:08:10 <Arbition> Not lithium batteries, but similar sort of deal http://www.batteryshowdown.com/
11:08:40 <Arbition> rechargable lithium that is, primary cell lithum batteries are tested
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11:10:31 <Tigger_> there are a few generics that do quite well
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11:11:37 <Arbition> Ah this is better representative for ebay batteries (funnily enough) http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/18650-Battery-Buying-Guide-test-on-all-from-eBay-below-3-/10000000178020340/g.html
11:13:40 <Tigger_> so some batteries claim 2000% performance over what they truly are
11:17:58 <Tigger_> which reminds me, while on ebay everyone basically knows it's a bit of a gamble, might be good, might be junk, people have had far higher expectations of Amazon, but this is changing:
11:17:59 <Tigger_> http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/08/amazons-chinese-counterfeit-problem-is-getting-worse.html
11:24:07 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how can you increase the intensity of your focus?
11:28:00 <Tigger_> the writer Proust would shut himself into his soundproof room so that he could focus on his writing without distractions
11:30:16 <Tigger_> my Billion router does work with the NBN, and there's even a guide for my particular model: http://www.internode.on.net/support/guides/internet_access/nbn/fttp/billion_7800n/
11:35:11 <Arbition> Are you on internode?
11:35:51 <Arbition> Maybe earplugs in a room with monotonous ambient noise?
11:36:23 <Arbition> Also can't believe you have FTTP
11:36:24 <Arbition> what luck
11:38:42 <Tigger_> I'm with Skymesh, but on speedtest it says that internode is the supplier
11:38:54 <Arbition> intriguing
11:39:25 <Tigger_> wait, no, the host for the test
11:39:34 <Tigger_> I read that wrong
11:40:01 <Arbition> right
11:40:52 <Tigger_> I just did a speedtest then, I am downloading a film at the same time: http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5494713392
11:42:54 <Arbition> 100/40
11:43:06 <Arbition> it irks me because you wouldn't be getting that reliably over VDSL
11:43:24 <Arbition> which is what the coalition has been gunning for
11:44:19 <Tigger_> what is VDSL?
11:44:32 <Arbition> ADSL but with a higher top speed
11:44:40 <Arbition> still subject to much the same copper restrictions though
11:44:47 <Arbition> So in this case, the copper last mile
11:44:54 <Tigger_> what sort of top speed would it get?
11:45:10 <Arbition> In theory 100mbps
11:45:18 <Arbition> but only if the line is short and in good condition
11:45:21 <Tigger_> in practice?
11:45:27 <Arbition> highly variable
11:45:42 <Arbition> easily at and below ADSL2+ territory on bad lines
11:46:04 <Arbition> so if the line is already bad, limited improvement
11:46:09 <Tigger_> how long would it take to deploy in comparison to the NBN?
11:46:46 <Arbition> excluding switch over times, and more importantly, excluding ad hoc replacement of bad copper, about 2/3rds the time
11:47:23 <Tigger_> with 5G coming in a few years it might be the best intermediate solution
11:47:31 <Arbition> If 50% is below the agreed minimum standard, easily more from administration and then going out to each individual site, compared to just installing the damn fibre to everyone
11:47:52 <Arbition> Wireless will never be a complete solution. Not using Electromagnetic waves anyway
11:47:54 <Arbition> never
11:48:12 <Arbition> Contention is just too much of an issue
11:48:21 <Arbition> making it directional helps
11:48:23 <Tigger_> businesses could still have fixed lines installed
11:48:26 <Arbition> but then you need line of site everywhere
11:48:31 <Arbition> *sight
11:49:12 <Arbition> it is only viable where the wireless NBN was already going to be installed, in semi rural areas with high seperation between sites, and those are already specified to be directional
11:49:43 <Arbition> also they use LTE Advanced already
11:49:51 <Arbition> dual channel iirc
11:50:00 <Tigger_> I understand that Labor abandoned their commitment to FTTP
11:50:28 <Arbition> Because it was already torn up and the whole thing turned to shit
11:50:39 <Arbition> the management of NBN co has been a rolling disaster
11:51:22 <Arbition> Obviously it didn't win them the election the previous time, so why would they stick with it
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11:53:51 <Warren1984> Arbition how can you increase the intensity of your focus?
11:54:17 <Arbition> If I knew I wouldn't be here right now
11:54:36 <Warren1984> where would you be?
11:56:16 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you need to clean your rangehood with car engine degreaser
11:56:42 <Arbition> I mean I would be doing work
11:57:02 <Arbition> rather than chatting on IRC
11:57:18 <Tigger_> you chose that which is more fun
11:57:24 <Warren1984> maybe you don't enjoy your job
11:57:40 <Arbition> things have been a bit shit lately
11:57:45 <Tigger_> what's wrong?
11:58:19 <Arbition> our foolish director is refusing to let the CEO he employed do his job, and is still dictating projects we can't realistically deliver
11:59:00 <Tigger_> I see, micromanaging from afar
12:02:21 <Warren1984> what I want out of life
12:02:26 <Warren1984> to find a decent gf
12:02:35 <Warren1984> to move out of home to live with her
12:02:38 <Tigger_> how do you define decent?
12:02:53 <Warren1984> 15 hr per week work
12:03:08 <Warren1984> one you get along with
12:03:15 <Warren1984> or one that shares the same values
12:03:43 <Warren1984> I want to be the controling one in the relationship
12:03:53 <Warren1984> nuh not really, but
12:04:01 <Warren1984> seems funny
12:05:32 <Tigger_> what values do you want her to have?
12:05:59 <Warren1984> not to steal, not to take drugs or alcohol
12:06:19 <Warren1984> well she can drink but just not be a alcoholic
12:06:38 <Warren1984> working as a team to run a household
12:06:44 <Warren1984> I can manage the money
12:07:17 <Warren1984> If she can get a part time job, then we would have more money and can do things such as going on holidays
12:07:28 <Warren1984> both of us get a part time job
12:07:45 <Tigger_> why not a full time job?
12:07:48 <Arbition> I suspect you are underestimating the cost of living
12:07:59 <Tigger_> depends on where you live
12:08:31 <Warren1984> Arbition the D$P pays more than the dole
12:08:42 <Arbition> oh you'd still have dsp
12:08:45 <Warren1984> so renting is generally enough
12:09:02 <Warren1984> but you have to eat cheaply i.e. making soups
12:09:14 <Warren1984> otherwise you won't come out financially
12:09:19 <Tigger_> you could afford to buy a house in the country
12:09:31 <Arbition> then what job would you do
12:09:56 <Warren1984> well I have being doing the flyer delivery job for almost 2 years now
12:10:08 <Warren1984> only problem is work is not always avaliable
12:10:39 <Tigger_> it's a tricky equation, live in the country cheaply with fewer employment prospects, or live in the city at increasing expense for greater employment prospects, for many it may be zero sum at best
12:10:44 <Warren1984> other than a call centre I have no real work experience
12:11:24 <Warren1984> you know if you meet another person on the D$P and live together your income will not completely combine
12:11:52 <Tigger_> it may have been better to subdivide Australia into 20 states, as was envisaged in some early maps, so that govt spending is spread around
12:11:54 <Warren1984> so for example if I get $1,000 a fortnight and she gets $1,000 a fortnight
12:12:21 <Warren1984> you both don't get $2,000 together you get about $1,800 together
12:12:49 <Warren1984> that is when living together
12:13:31 <Tigger_> that's one thing I think should be changed, as it's a disincentive for stable relationships
12:13:55 <Warren1984> yeah but everything is cheaper when you have a partner
12:14:27 <Warren1984> many things benefit couples that don't benefit single people
12:18:35 <Warren1984> perhaps indecisive behaviour is caused by not knowing your priorities in life
12:35:47 <Tigger_> I feel a bit odd today, not sick, but not exactly well
12:35:59 <Tigger_> a bit of brain fog
12:55:33 <Warren1984> another magnum icecream
12:55:36 <Warren1984> so addictive
12:56:05 <Warren1984> I hate when ice cream is not hard
12:56:12 <Warren1984> the last one wasn't hard
12:56:15 <Warren1984> this one is
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13:00:51 <Warren1984> Arbition do you like your ice cream hard or soft?
13:26:08 <Tigger_> ah I know what it is, the chocolate I had last night, I hadn't had any chocolate for awhile, so I'm not used to it, so it has made me feel a bit funny today
14:18:29 <Arbition> Warren1984: somewhere in the middle I guess
14:18:52 <Arbition> It is very hard to make good quality icecream that also has good texture
14:18:56 <Arbition> very. hard.
14:19:06 <Arbition> impossible if you also need it to keep that texture for more than about a day
14:19:37 <Arbition> which is why commercial ice creams in tubs have gums and other additives
14:35:29 <Tigger_> the icecream I make goes very hard after a day, but I only make a litre at a time
14:36:19 <Arbition> yep that is typical
14:36:29 <Arbition> my friend would often bring in rock hard ice cream he made himself
14:36:50 <Arbition> good flavour, but yeah its not great to eat
14:37:13 <Tigger_> the flavour more than makes up for it, my choc mint gelati completely blew me away
14:40:00 <Tigger_> but I found one solution to not letting it get too hard, freezers are generally turned up to be colder than they need to be, when I dialed it back the icecream didn't harden quite so much, yet remained frozen
14:40:39 <Tigger_> also a proper icecream scoop allows you to dig in to get a larger scoop
14:41:12 <Tigger_> rather than just scraping the surface with a standard spook
14:41:15 <Tigger_> spoon
14:47:45 <Arbition> stored in warm water
14:54:53 <Tigger_> yes
15:03:46 <Tigger_> well time to try out my router, see what happens
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15:25:27 <Tigger_> well that is done, kind of, 30 metre ethernet cable running the length of the house, as I need to install a network switch upstairs to replace the router
15:45:19 <Tigger_> 95.23 Mbps through the Billion router
16:08:25 <Warren1984> wb Tigger_
16:08:36 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you have any of these symptoms
16:08:40 <Warren1984> Symptoms of inattentive type include:
16:08:40 <Warren1984> missing details and becoming distracted easily
16:08:40 <Warren1984> trouble focusing on the task at hand
16:08:40 <Warren1984> becoming bored quickly
16:08:40 <Warren1984> difficulty learning or organizing new information
16:08:40 <Warren1984> trouble completing homework or losing items needed to stay on task
16:08:40 <Warren1984> becoming confused easily or daydreaming frequently
16:08:40 <Warren1984> seeming not to listen when spoken to directly
16:08:40 <Warren1984> difficulty following instructions
16:08:40 <Warren1984> processing information more slowly and with more mistakes than peers
16:09:46 <Tigger_> daydreaming
16:11:52 <Warren1984> daydreaming about vaness's stinker
16:13:25 <Warren1984> I have difficulty following instructions, unless they are very clear
16:13:28 <Warren1984> and precise
16:13:53 <Warren1984> that is why I prefer to make my own SOPs
16:15:14 <Warren1984> organizing information is not a problem with a digital voice recorder (as long as it's a breville one)
16:15:38 <Warren1984> computers generally organize information
16:15:51 <Warren1984> put things in folders
16:16:19 <Warren1984> trouble focusing on the task at hand is caused by intuition
16:16:36 <Warren1984> people with sensing are more interested in the task at hand
16:16:56 <Warren1984> boredom, anyone can experience boredom
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16:24:00 <juloop> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-28203060
16:24:21 <juloop> -A father who had been playing on his PlayStation killed his five-week-old daughter after being frustrated by her screaming, a court heard.
16:24:55 <Tigger_> depressing
16:26:10 <juloop> https://www.facebook.com/OlipOfficial/videos/492137290910946/
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17:04:44 <GreekSnake> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/756355884956127232
17:04:55 <GreekSnake> Did everyone watch Daddy's high-energy speech?
17:08:51 <Tigger_> not yet, but I will
17:09:15 <Tigger_> I have been fooling with my network and server most of the afternoon
17:10:35 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42418toh02M I guess this is the one
17:10:40 <BlackDevil> Youtube: FULL SPEECH: Donald Trump Accepts Republican Nomination for President (7-21-16) (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 01:16:56 - Category: News & Politics - 3,083 views views - 420 likes (98.6%), 6 dislikes (1.4%)
17:11:35 <GreekSnake> yeah, it was really good
17:12:00 <Tigger_> I see Mr. Straight-Acting also gave a speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dATiLCxJ_Q
17:12:04 <BlackDevil> Youtube: FULL: PETER THIEL Gives Rousing Speech at RNC in Cleveland (7-21-16) (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 6:10 - Category: News & Politics - 1,400 views views - 137 likes (97.2%), 4 dislikes (2.8%)
17:12:40 <GreekSnake> heh
17:12:44 <GreekSnake> haven't seen that one y et
17:12:53 <GreekSnake> the gay anarcho-capitalist?
17:13:15 <Tigger_> Peter Thiel who Peter Gregory was based on
17:15:24 <GreekSnake> but Thiel seems much more animated
17:15:26 <GreekSnake> less sperg
17:16:46 <Tigger_> he has probably gotten coaching, he's notoriously sperg
17:18:13 <Tigger_> interesting, he's talking about culture wars as a distraction from the economy
17:18:31 <Tigger_> Thiel has clearly been reading alt-right sites
17:23:42 <Tigger_> I'll watch Trump's speech later, as it's rather long
17:28:44 <Tigger_> from the reactions of the crowds, it's hard to believe Jeb was once considered the shoe-in
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17:49:04 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would you say I have a learning disability i.e. in retaining information?
17:49:39 <Tigger_> no, as you came second of the class at TAFE
17:50:59 <GreekSnake> Warren1984, you sound more brilliant than you read
17:51:21 <Tigger_> my latest speed test: http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5495229806
17:52:16 <GreekSnake> why the beta?
17:52:25 <Tigger_> it
17:52:39 <Tigger_> it's their html5 speedtest, as opposed to their old Flash one
17:53:07 <Tigger_> as we all know Flash must be killed on sight
17:54:38 <GreekSnake> Adrian Gutierrez2 hours ago
17:54:39 <GreekSnake> Peter Thiel is Libertarian? What a large leap from Ron Paul to a statist Nationalist Socialist like Trump. Ronald Reagan simplified the tax code even more so than Trump. Ron Paul wanted a flat tax of 0%. Welp Thiel is no Austrian Economist. California is made up of only Silicon Valley? What an idiot, sounds like he doesn't travel to the rest of the state. They make software all over
17:54:39 <GreekSnake> California. Thiel is a VC now, not a computer software engineer. I admire his Thiel Foundation endeavors, but this is odd. Tariffs and closed borders are not Libertarian. I guess Thiel wants another bubble and that's what he'll get. What was Ron Paul's most important talking point again? Go back to the valley Thiel, you sound like crony capitalist.
17:56:30 <Warren1984> <GreekSnake> Warren1984, you sound more brilliant than you read <- what do you mean?
17:56:50 <Tigger_> fun fact: alpha male libertarians were only so to stop taxpayer money going to blacks
17:57:13 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I have difficulty with my working memory, so I need to record stuff by making notes and using my digital voice recorder
17:58:13 <Tigger_> since Trump, the libertarians have split, some getting on the Trump Train, others sperging out over boring issues like Rand Paul
17:58:43 <GreekSnake> I mean your online presence is largely drivel, but you sound rather bright when you speak
17:59:09 <GreekSnake> e.g. in that hilarious cooking podcast with your mother
17:59:52 <Tigger_> just look at the way Ben Garrison completely transformed from a tin-foil hat libertarian to a fully based Trump supporter
18:00:43 <Tigger_> Ben Garrison's latest: http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/milo-twitter-cartoon-ben-garrison_1_orig.jpg
18:00:54 <GreekSnake> yes, or Alex Jones for that matter
18:01:18 <Warren1984> most of the time I am bored on IRC so I just make stuff up
18:01:55 <Tigger_> remind me to show this one to Marttin: http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/bernie-sanders-rbg-ben-garrison_2_orig.jpg
18:03:44 <Tigger_> I never thought I'd live in a world where Ghostbusters is somehow entwined in a national election
18:04:09 <GreekSnake> haha
18:04:20 <GreekSnake> Marttin will be so triggered by that
18:07:13 <Tigger_> my favourite lately: http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/7042595_orig.jpg
18:08:03 <GreekSnake> http://imgur.com/9AyjQu3 EXPOSED
18:08:28 <Tigger_> what?
18:08:41 <GreekSnake> Brisbane, not Birdsville
18:09:11 <Tigger_> that's the test server in Brisbane
18:09:23 <GreekSnake> heh
18:09:30 <GreekSnake> so you have NBN now?
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18:09:52 <Tigger_> yes
18:10:29 <GreekSnake> hey Ethanol
18:10:50 <GreekSnake> I just realized who DinduNuffin was lol
18:10:51 <DinduNuffin> hello
18:11:02 <Tigger_> I have still not finished reconfiguring the home network though, I must move a network switch upstairs, so I can get rid of this 30m ethernet cable running the length of the house
18:11:25 <Tigger_> got tired of R2-Dindu
18:12:19 <GreekSnake> are you still running everything off your server thingy?
18:13:22 <Tigger_> yes, though because I fiddled with the network, I wasn't able to access it for a few hours today, it ended up with a new local IP
18:14:11 <GreekSnake> it took that long for you to figure out what was going wrong?
18:14:31 <Tigger_> and just before tested it by downloading The Lighthorsemen, about the attack on Beersheba
18:14:42 <Tigger_> well a bunch of other stuff had to be done
18:15:42 <Tigger_> my ADSL2 router has a WAN port, which Arbition advised me that I could connect to the NBN through it, so it was removed from upstairs and placed in the office
18:16:28 <Tigger_> I previously used a network switch in there, which will now have to be put upstairs to replace the router
18:17:19 <Tigger_> without that switch this machine connects through a 30m long ethernet cable
18:18:33 <GreekSnake> why not wirelessly?
18:19:10 <Tigger_> oh and the router had to be changed to WAN mode, rather than ADSL, so I had to isolate that by connecting it to a computer with a single ethernet cable, no other cables running to the router, so I could log in and change its mode
18:20:46 <Tigger_> then because by this time the entire home network had been ripped up and put back together, my server had a new IP, but it defaulted to the internet connection's IP, so any attempt to log into it would be from my house to skymesh and back again, rather than just through the home network
18:21:24 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiQ8nLScpM
18:21:29 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Milo Responds To Orwellian Twitter Ban (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 47:50 - Category: News & Politics - 52,944 views views - 2,488 likes (94.6%), 142 dislikes (5.4%)
18:21:35 <Tigger_> so I had to disconnect the internet again, let the server boot and find an IP on the home network, so then I could remotely access it, then reconnect the internet
18:22:01 <Tigger_> and I think that's where I am now
18:22:12 <Tigger_> testing it by having it download that film
18:22:39 <Tigger_> and I do have wifi, that actually worked throughout most of the messing around today
18:23:41 <Tigger_> the quality of this video is terrible
18:23:48 <GreekSnake> yes
18:25:03 <GreekSnake> it clears up around 2:30
18:26:45 <Tigger_> yes
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18:30:35 <GreekSnake> Alex is gushing
18:31:32 <Tigger_> Milo probably only got himself banned to get to meet Alex Jones
18:31:53 <GreekSnake> haha
18:32:12 <GreekSnake> to get up close and personal with a real bear
18:34:21 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-HP8y5ByA8
18:34:26 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Battle Royale: Young Turks vs Alex Jones and Roger Stone (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 2:18 - Category: News & Politics - 156,426 views views - likes (94.9%), 116 dislikes (5.1%)
18:35:21 <President_Trump> WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL?
18:35:25 <President_Trump> MEXICO!
18:36:12 <Tigger_> they're analysing the lesbian conspiracy to control straight women
18:36:25 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump
18:40:29 <Tigger_> 10Tb is real: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01IA9GU0Q/ozba0e-20
18:43:06 <President_Trump> IT'S A LOVE FEST FOLKS
18:44:54 <Tigger_> that's why I can't wait to compare the low energy Democrat convention
18:49:59 <GreekSnake> even I was moved by what Trump was saying, and I'm not even American
18:51:05 <President_Trump> he didnt say anything new
18:52:38 <President_Trump> https://i.redditmedia.com/dvfXR_tzg4Cyl62P-UJZhCocXmf-Z60qwv9Uq4jSZKo.jpg?w=720&s=c431cb4f6ae7e31aded381216920ce73
18:53:29 <Tigger_> that's a photo of him when one of his sons dies
18:53:31 <President_Trump> tomorrow obama will come out 'this is a serious job, it is not a reality tv show'
18:53:53 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9MPx2hy5g
18:53:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Cenk Uygur Explains What Happened With Alex Jones And Roger Stone At Republican National Convention (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 9:36 - Category: News & Politics - 169,030 views views - 11,114 likes (65.4%), 5,868 dislikes (34.6%)
18:54:01 <GreekSnake> Cenk Uygur goes full mud
18:54:40 <President_Trump> lol the old fat turks
18:55:52 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLXsyqJaRk
18:55:56 <President_Trump> dont u need to see that first
18:55:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: RNC CHAOS: Alex Jones, Roger Stone Crash Set of The Young Turks [Part 1] (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 0:57 - Category: Comedy - 18,371 views views - likes (88.6%), 45 dislikes (11.4%)
18:56:48 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllll what is that all about
18:57:57 <GreekSnake> basically a microcosm of what's happening in America now: white men fighting back against muds and feminists
18:58:55 <Tigger_> that female Turk has the "I demand to see the manager" expression
19:01:14 <GreekSnake> she's Armenian, which makes it even worse
19:01:22 <GreekSnake> sellout bitch
19:01:58 <Tigger_> yes, I was thinking that about her name
19:02:16 <GreekSnake> she's received a lot of abuse from Armenian nationalists for appearing alongside a Turk
19:02:21 <GreekSnake> I mean, the shame of it all
19:02:49 <GreekSnake> but I guess that's what an American upbringing does to you
19:03:10 <President_Trump> might have been a pr stunt
19:03:28 <GreekSnake> she's been indoctrinated by the multiculturalist Left to accept Turks as anything other than the subhuman savages they are
19:03:47 <Tigger_> that show has become very desperate, when Sellout Sanders gave in to Hillary, they were desperately trying to make it look like Bernie's noble act
19:03:51 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4pX53AqpUs
19:03:53 <President_Trump> that is better
19:03:56 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Alex Jones And Roger Stone Interrupt The Young Turks Republican National Convention Coverage (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 4:17 - Category: News & Politics - 204,067 views views - 11,848 likes (79%), 3,153 dislikes (21%)
19:03:58 <President_Trump> bill clinton rape tshirt LOL
19:04:51 <GreekSnake> yeah, it's pretty epic trolling by Alex Jones
19:05:10 <GreekSnake> I just looked up Roger Stone, to find out why this Turk loathes him so much
19:05:22 <GreekSnake> he's made some solidly racist remarks hehe
19:07:32 <President_Trump> one funny moment was when the old turk yells back 'I CARE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'
19:08:06 <GreekSnake> Alex Jones should've said "Why? You're not even American."
19:08:24 <GreekSnake> Stone helped arrange a Trump appearance on Jones' show in December 2015, during which Trump praised Jones as having an "amazing reputation."[55]
19:08:27 <Tigger_> lol, great video, Cerk almost goes full jihad at Alex Jones
19:08:41 <GreekSnake> lol, Trump is extremely generous
19:09:37 <GreekSnake> yes, there's an expression we use in Greek: "He became a Turk" = he was furious
19:09:43 <GreekSnake> Cenk certainly lived up to that reputation
19:09:46 <President_Trump> the best theory i have heard for letting LYIN TED speak was coz EVERYONE would be tuned in to see what trump had to say
19:10:42 <Tigger_> tomorrow Milo must interrupt the Young Turks
19:10:57 <GreekSnake> haha
19:11:14 <GreekSnake> make it a Greek-Armenian-Turkish clusterfuck
19:11:21 <President_Trump> i watched milo's speech the other day at the gay convention thing, he was talking about getting black cock
19:11:54 <GreekSnake> I don't think Milo is actually Jewish at all
19:12:03 <GreekSnake> he was raised Catholic, but that can't have been through his Greek father
19:12:07 <GreekSnake> his mother is probably Irish or something
19:12:38 <Tigger_> he said the jewishness was distant
19:13:20 <GreekSnake> so a distant convert ancestor on his Catholic mother's side
19:13:50 <President_Trump> he will be killed when he does his gay walk through sweden no go zones
19:14:00 <GreekSnake> he should do it in a burqa
19:14:06 <GreekSnake> to confuse them even more
19:14:09 <President_Trump> he wwill sacrifice himself to get some more votes for trump
19:14:51 <GreekSnake> didn't the Swedish communists already decide that they wouldn't allow any more gays to walk through Muslim neighbourhoods?
19:15:07 <President_Trump> i dont know he said it in his speech which was two days ago
19:15:11 <GreekSnake> yeah he did
19:15:20 <Tigger_> I remember some old communist witch being very upset about it
19:15:21 <Arbition> xm: I have been playing the original Deus Ex, and being based on the Unreal engine, it uses the UMX tracker format. So I've openned them in OpenMPT :)
19:15:25 <GreekSnake> but he'll be more focussed on his Twitter ban now
19:15:31 <GreekSnake> http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/04/05/msnbc-removes-trump-ally-roger-stone-from-its-a/209758
19:15:57 <GreekSnake> As Media Matters documented, Stone has written disgusting tweets targeting figures at media organizations including CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC. He's called various media personalities an "arrogant know-it-all negro," a "stupid negro," a "fat negro," a "professional negro," a "Mandingo," "quota hires," "senile," and "the muff-diver."
19:16:09 <GreekSnake> LOL
19:16:17 <GreekSnake> no wonder Cenk was so furious
19:16:18 <Tigger_> lol
19:16:29 <President_Trump> it was weird trump didnt say mexico was going to pay for the wall
19:16:39 <GreekSnake> but what really struck a raw nerve was when Alex Jones accused Ana Kasparian of Saudi-funded jihad
19:16:48 <Tigger_> Cenk thought Roger Stone was calling him all that
19:16:52 <Arbition> Oh he didn't eh?
19:16:56 <Arbition> hmm
19:17:08 <President_Trump> alex jones is a master antagonist
19:17:25 <Arbition> So as it is coming closer to the election he is starting to use the more standard politician promises now then?
19:17:30 <GreekSnake> it's hilarious that leftists in the comments section think that Cenk won that stoush
19:17:31 <GreekSnake> seriously?
19:17:37 <President_Trump> he said he was going to build a wall
19:17:37 <GreekSnake> Alex trolled him beyond belief
19:18:14 <Tigger_> either Mexico will pay for it or NAFTA gets ripped up
19:18:38 <Arbition> which is more likely his real objective
19:18:43 <Arbition> ripping up NAFTA
19:19:20 <Tigger_> it's win either way
19:19:38 <President_Trump> he doesnt have to rip it up coz there are provisions in it to revise the deal, but no politicians obviously do that
19:21:08 <GreekSnake> chrisgr20135 minutes ago
19:21:08 <GreekSnake> TYT is now corporately owned by Fusion, which is controlled by Haim Saban, a major Clinton Donor.Libtards getting fooled once again.Btw how's Bernie doing? Is he practicing deepthroating Hillary's hog live on stage at the DNC?The old coot ripped you off alright! Your weed money is now Hillary's money,retards!
19:21:22 <GreekSnake> so they're actually funded by the Jews, not the Saudis
19:21:23 <GreekSnake> lol
19:21:25 <Arbition> A win either way but not both
19:21:51 <Arbition> pretty much giving him an out to make a promise he doesn't intend to keep
19:22:04 <President_Trump> trump made a big call out to the bernie supporters
19:22:15 <Tigger_> he's made a few
19:22:19 <President_Trump> wonder what his reddit says
19:22:37 <Tigger_> I know a lot of bernouts have switched to the Donald reddit
19:23:57 <Tigger_> the Bernie reddit is turning into a ghost town, with just conspiracy theorists, Jill Stein converts, and this weird depressing reminiscing about how the best days of their lives are over now
19:23:59 <President_Trump> looks like his reddit is pretty dead
19:25:08 <Tigger_> Bernie started two new activist groups, and was calling for donations, he hasn't gotten tired of the money
19:29:02 <DinduNuffin> The Young Turks don't look young at all
19:29:19 <DinduNuffin> the fat cuck looks 40
19:30:14 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUQmUYvUw8
19:30:19 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Cenk Uygur Does An Impression Of Donald Trump (Jul 22, 2016) Length: 2:01 - Category: News & Politics - 13,086 views views - 914 likes (62.7%), 543 dislikes (37.3%)
19:30:34 <GreekSnake> yellowfish12 minutes ago
19:30:34 <GreekSnake> after Donald Trump becomes president Cenk will go nuts, probably move back to turkey and blow himself up on local train station or something. lmao
19:31:46 <Tigger_> lol
19:32:42 <Tigger_> he should go back to Turkey, having a few American dollars will make him a prince there once Erdogan starts printing his trillion lira notes
19:32:46 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_atgCKxL0NA
19:32:51 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Diamond And Silk Interview With Cenk Uygur At 2016 RNC (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 16:09 - Category: News & Politics - 24,889 views views - 847 likes (68.4%), 391 dislikes (31.6%)
19:32:54 <GreekSnake> our 2 favourite negresses
19:33:26 <Tigger_> he must be masochistic to keep uploading videos of himself getting pwned
19:37:33 <Tigger_> well time to go the shops now
19:37:42 <Tigger_> if Marttin comes on show him this: http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/bernie-sanders-rbg-ben-garrison_2_orig.jpg
19:38:49 <President_Trump> lol fat turk getting owned by diamond and silk
19:38:57 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orc7YVkkR34
19:38:59 <GreekSnake> this is rich
19:39:02 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Germany Acknowledges The Genocide (Jun 2, 2016) Length: 7:27 - Category: News & Politics - 142,349 views views - 5,798 likes (88.5%), 757 dislikes (11.5%)
19:39:05 <GreekSnake> Ana discusses the Armenian Genocide
19:39:07 <GreekSnake> where's Cenk?
19:39:08 <GreekSnake> lol
19:41:43 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXH0AgT1_Q
19:41:47 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Spiel Mit Mir - Rammstein Lyrics and English Translation (Mar 21, 2010) Length: 4:50 - Category: Music - 820,466 views views - 2,926 likes (96.8%), 97 dislikes (3.2%)
19:42:03 <Arbition> ergh thats a terrible song
19:42:10 <Arbition> the lyrics are foul and the tune isn't even good
19:47:14 <President_Trump> 'we cant depend on crooked hillary look at benghazi she be home chillin'
20:03:49 <President_Trump> "What Cruz delivered was the longest suicide note in American political history and this morning he added an addendum," said Krauthammer.
20:08:51 Join: xmmm ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:10:27 <xmmm> Very beta neckbeard
20:13:05 <GreekSnake> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3702743/Bert-Newton-77-unrecognisable-TV-star-steps-local-TAB-looking-downcast.html?ito=social-facebook_Australia
20:13:45 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5S76oKO6NM
20:13:49 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Silence - Delirium ft Sarah Mclachlan (Apr 30, 2007) Length: 4:20 - Category: Music - 3,418,439 views views - 10,379 likes (97.4%), 276 dislikes (2.6%)
20:15:41 <DinduNuffin> Now run along, Kingdom of despair, United Kingdom, about 2 hours ago
20:15:42 <DinduNuffin> You didn't mention at what point he went for a pee and what flavourful pie he had for lunch. Good god this low life intrusive and pointless paper hits new lows every day. Can't you amateur trolls write something vaguely newsworthy?
20:17:11 <Warren1984> GreekSnake when having sex with a domineering woman, it's like having sex with a prey mantis
20:17:19 <Warren1984> and you get eaten afterwards
20:19:06 Quit: xmmm ([email protected]) Connection closed
20:19:58 <DinduNuffin> Warren1984: was sophie domineering?
20:20:05 <Warren1984> at times yes
20:20:29 <Warren1984> but that is because ESFJ's do that when comparing their material possessions with other females
20:20:51 <Warren1984> the ISTP would happily submit to her domineering demands
20:21:00 <Warren1984> INTP would get angry at her
20:22:24 <Warren1984> domineering female -> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Praying_Mantis_Sexual_Cannibalism_European-37.jpg
20:25:51 Join: none ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:27:06 <none> hi
20:28:06 <none> so bored
20:31:54 <none> gave up making texhno
20:32:14 <none> given up weed too
20:32:24 <none> given up caring
20:32:49 <none> if I can change anybody can
20:33:19 <none> now it's up to the ops to pull the stick out their arse
20:35:54 Join: none- ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:36:10 <none> they move into my building and stalk me
20:36:11 <none-> shut up chris you faggot
20:36:21 <none> fucken low lifes
20:36:33 <none-> ur the fukin low life cunt
20:36:36 <President_Trump> lolllllllllllll
20:36:42 <President_Trump> chris why are u talking to yourself
20:36:50 <none-> knock ya block off ur junkie head cunt
20:36:56 <none> David u come I bash shit thru u
20:37:11 <none> I dare u
20:37:23 <none-> u couldnt bash a paper bag u twig ugly junkie faggot
20:37:39 <none> so that's not coming
20:37:44 <none> come or shut up
20:37:54 <none> weak cunt
20:38:09 <President_Trump> chris what does jen's thigh feel like?
20:38:11 <none-> if anyone shows up at your faggot unit u'd shit yourself
20:38:36 <none> come
20:38:46 <none> weak cunt
20:38:55 <none-> u'd shit there in ur kmart chair and brag about ur dunny pipes
20:39:20 <none> look you are all talk
20:39:30 <none> u are weak
20:39:36 <none-> yeah im chris and im a faggot
20:39:39 <xm> Arbition: i suddenly feel like playing heaps of old MOD etc files from 15+ years ago
20:39:59 <none> David come here I end u
20:40:04 <none-> i smo0ke weed and tell everyone how there's 10 vro's on me cause i got a little dick from being a faggot
20:40:15 <none> it's simple as that
20:40:15 <none-> i sit in my kmart chair and look like a faggot
20:40:25 <none-> all dopey like
20:40:30 <none> come all talk cunt
20:40:33 <none-> deerrr im chris n im a faggot
20:40:38 <none> u weak cunt
20:40:43 <none> I dare u
20:40:48 <none> I dare u
20:40:53 <none> come weak cunt
20:41:28 <none-> my names chris n im hell piss'd coz jen is out with a GUY friend tonight
20:41:39 <none-> hahahhahahahahhaha
20:42:04 <none> I don't care for Jen moron
20:42:09 <none-> jen rather spend time with a guy friend than spend time with you chris
20:42:14 <Tigger_> <DinduNuffin> Warren1984: was sophie domineering?
20:42:14 <Tigger_> <Warren1984> at times yes
20:42:14 <none> I'm not stupid
20:42:15 <none-> hahahhahahahahhaha
20:42:40 <Tigger_> Sophie wanted Warren1984 and a guy to kiss, probably to start a threesome
20:42:47 <none-> worthless peice of shit chris
20:43:07 <none> u still not here weak cunt
20:43:27 <none> u can insult all u want
20:43:32 <none-> no one wants to come to ur stinking unit u ugly faggot
20:43:38 <none> u are all talk weak cunt
20:43:46 <none-> ur the weak cunt
20:43:47 <none> all talk yellow
20:43:55 <none-> u sta in your kmart chair like a faggot
20:43:55 <none> scared are u david
20:43:59 <none-> and couldnt do shit
20:44:04 <none> Davidur a weak cunt
20:44:08 <none-> you shit urself like a real faggot
20:44:19 <none-> knock u the mcfuck out cunt
20:44:24 <none-> hahahhaha
20:44:30 <none> I won't shit my self
20:44:40 <none> come u all talk ccunt
20:44:54 <none-> skin ya cat alive
20:45:05 <none> wow
20:45:06 <none-> thats not nice
20:45:12 <none> all talk cunt
20:45:17 <none-> i rather take care of ur cat
20:45:17 <none> weak cunt
20:45:24 <none-> it lives a horrible life with you
20:45:25 <none> weak cunt
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20:45:31 <none-> looks unhealthy
20:45:37 <none> ur weak
20:45:42 <none-> ur weak you faggot
20:45:48 <none> all talk
20:45:50 <none-> bust u a new asshole
20:45:57 <none-> u like faggots dont u
20:46:04 <none-> wanna fuck me chris?
20:46:04 <none> keep ramble up u scared little boy
20:46:06 <President_Trump> none misses Simon
20:46:07 <none-> come fuck me
20:46:11 <none-> u despo faggot
20:46:15 <none-> COME FUCK ME CHRIS
20:46:19 <none-> COME NOW CUNT
20:46:24 <none> lol
20:46:29 <none> weak cunt
20:47:11 Quit: none- ([email protected]) Quit: chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a faggot chris is a fag
20:47:42 <none> all talk weak cunt David pollock
20:47:52 <none> scared of chris
20:47:57 <none> Chrisrofl
20:48:02 <none> rofl
20:48:02 <none> weak cunt
20:48:04 <President_Trump> https://i.sli.mg/DIzrbc.png
20:50:04 <Tigger_> <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5S76oKO6NM <- I played the Tiesto remix of this on my walk tonight actually
20:50:09 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Silence - Delirium ft Sarah Mclachlan (Apr 30, 2007) Length: 4:20 - Category: Music - 3,418,439 views views - 10,379 likes (97.4%), 276 dislikes (2.6%)
20:50:52 Join: tjj44 ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:51:08 <Tigger_> Trump never gets tired of winning
20:51:40 <President_Trump> the american people are going to get so tired of winning
20:52:12 <tjj44> trump could get bought out 200 times over by facebook ceo
20:52:20 <tjj44> trump isn't rich he's a fkn fag
20:52:37 <President_Trump> lloollllllllllllllllllllllllll @ tjj44
20:52:39 <President_Trump> u mad bro?
20:52:45 <President_Trump> he could buy you out 200000000000000000 times
20:52:54 <tjj44> no man i'm rich
20:52:57 Join: Poos^n^Wees ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:53:05 <tjj44> i'm retired @ 31 years of age
20:53:10 <President_Trump> what is your net worth?
20:53:12 <tjj44> u have to go to work and work ur ass off
20:53:19 <tjj44> i get to do whatever i want
20:53:27 <President_Trump> what is your net worth?
20:53:49 <tjj44> why not my gross worth
20:54:08 Part: Poos^n^Wees ([email protected]) from #politicaldebate
20:54:11 <tjj44> im a millionaire
20:54:22 <tjj44> trump could only buy me x amount of imes
20:54:28 <tjj44> its not like hes g0d
20:55:03 <President_Trump> hes not god?
20:55:11 <President_Trump> thats rubbish
20:55:16 <Tigger_> no Zuckerberg's personal wealth is only about the same as Trump's, though Facebook itself is worth a lot more
20:55:20 <tjj44> his bones will become dust
20:55:28 <tjj44> tigger u moron
20:55:37 <tjj44> lol u guys getting lead by tigger
20:55:39 <tjj44> lolos
20:55:39 <tjj44> <3
20:55:39 <President_Trump> zuckerberg has cucked out and will give most to charity so trump beats him easily
20:56:14 <Tigger_> also Facebook could be worth the same as MySpace given a few years, Trump's real world property will always be worth a lot
20:57:08 <President_Trump> zuckerberg stole facebook anyway
20:57:19 <President_Trump> he should be in jail
20:58:02 <Tigger_> give it back to the true owners, the Winklevii
20:58:44 <President_Trump> comparing a criminal like zuckerberg to an honourable man like trump is disgusting
20:59:33 <tjj44> if i was born to different parents i could buy trump over and over again
20:59:34 <tjj44> id rape him
21:00:48 <Tigger_> Trump's wealth makes you furious
21:01:11 <tjj44> we havent seen a tv actor in office since ronald reagen
21:01:20 <tjj44> its a worry
21:01:28 <Tigger_> Reagan was better than all the career politicians
21:02:07 <President_Trump> reagan is considered to be in americas top few presidents, after the trump presidency he will drop one spot
21:02:11 <tjj44> what does trumps 'few troops on the ground' in syria mean
21:02:17 <tjj44> lol syria didn't ask for interference
21:02:29 <tjj44> thats s international law violation
21:02:48 <Tigger_> Trump's new hunting resort in Syria
21:03:20 <tjj44> fuk syria tho tbh
21:03:32 <tjj44> but still
21:03:34 <President_Trump> he will help syria get rid of isis
21:03:39 <tjj44> they gotta know they talking from their asses
21:03:47 <Tigger_> people will pay Trump to stay at his resort and go hunting ISIS, huge profits, won't cost the taxpayer a cent
21:03:48 <tjj44> isis is co factions with arabs man
21:04:00 <tjj44> isis is 70% arab co factions
21:04:03 <tjj44> cia funded
21:04:09 <tjj44> 30% are head choppers
21:04:27 <President_Trump> that is good, trump will take out many arabs
21:04:54 <Tigger_> Crooked Hillary won't be able to fund ISIS anymore, nor will ISIS pay her $225,000 for a speech
21:04:57 <tjj44> remember the talliban
21:05:12 <tjj44> they got anti helicopter missiles like anti TOW missiles now
21:05:14 <tjj44> in syria lol
21:05:21 <tjj44> taliban 2.0 replayed
21:05:25 Quit: President_Trump ([email protected]) Quit:
21:05:25 <tjj44> and u guys r like 'fuk isis'
21:06:30 <tjj44> the 30% head choppers could be called isis
21:06:42 <tjj44> the 70% arabs are funded by saudi jordan uk and america
21:07:01 <Tigger_> what about Israel?
21:07:07 <none> this sucks want somebody I can trust to talk to
21:07:18 <Tigger_> trust?
21:07:31 <tjj44> israel have been seen in hillary emails to support anti assad
21:07:33 <tjj44> factions
21:07:54 <none> well some woman that doesn't come with gang of stalkers
21:08:14 <none> or ppl obsessed with her
21:08:54 <none> fuck does me head in
21:09:21 <tjj44> but thats political support
21:09:25 <tjj44> not direct military support
21:09:38 <tjj44> america have a 1.6 trillion dollar budget to do that
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21:11:46 <tjj44> trump r u a mexi
21:11:56 <tjj44> if u r, ur gonna get deported by trump
21:12:00 <tjj44> i saw a mexi supporting trump the other day
21:12:08 <tjj44> was funny, in that he risks getting deported
21:12:22 <President_Trump> all murderers and rapists need to go back to mexico
21:12:23 <none> this sucks
21:12:27 <President_Trump> so that's most of them
21:12:57 <none> where's the adults
21:12:57 <none> lols
21:13:17 <xm> wgere's GreekSnake
21:13:19 <xm> https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/watch-host-of-the-young-turks-has-meltdown-at-republican-convention
21:13:39 <Tigger_> we were watching that earlier
21:13:39 <none> xm I deleted all my music stuff
21:13:42 <Rant> https://www.yahoo.com/news/pavarottis-family-protest-trumps-famous-aria-205327310.html < how stupid and infantile
21:13:47 <none> over it
21:13:57 <xm> none: did you really? that is depressing
21:14:01 <xm> try to undelete it
21:14:09 <xm> you might regret it
21:14:14 <none> nah
21:14:24 <none> nup I have to let go
21:14:42 <tjj44> where does isis suddenly get 1000 toyota trucks from? but muh al queda
21:14:51 <tjj44> but muh terrorists
21:15:12 <Rant> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-moore-says-trump-is-913121
21:15:22 <Tigger_> none, undelete your music files at once, and make multiple copies to USB memory sticks
21:15:32 <none> nup
21:15:52 <none> cbf
21:15:53 <Tigger_> none, if you don't undelete your music files, I will ban you for life
21:16:09 <none> I have most of it on sun already
21:16:29 <none> just deleted stuff made in version 12
21:16:48 <Tigger_> make lots of backups
21:19:54 <xm> this incident is good for both sides
21:19:58 <xm> more publicity
21:20:57 Quit: none ([email protected]) Connection closed
21:21:52 <President_Trump> xm why wont mrwuf come in anymore?
21:22:11 <Tigger_> ask him what he's so de[ressed about
21:22:34 <President_Trump> is he upset coz hitler is going to be president?
21:25:48 <Tigger_> literally hitler
21:37:12 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5S76oKO6NM
21:37:16 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Silence - Delirium ft Sarah Mclachlan (Apr 30, 2007) Length: 4:20 - Category: Music - 3,418,494 views views - 10,379 likes (97.4%), 276 dislikes (2.6%)
21:37:30 <Warren1984> being sexually detached is the answer
21:37:47 <Warren1984> no one can have sexual power over you
21:37:56 <Tigger_> this is the better version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycAC_6Bbto
21:38:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Delerium feat. Sarah McLachlan - Silence (Tiesto's In Search of Sunrise Remix) [HD] (Aug 21, 2011) Length: 11:34 - Category: Music - 3,865,467 views views - likes (97.4%), 533 dislikes (2.6%)
21:38:46 <Tigger_> "Last night what Cruz delivered was the longest suicide note in American political history," Krauthammer said. "This was not a matter of principle, it was already in question as of last night, but as of this morning I think he's destroyed his political career."
21:38:57 <Tigger_> Cruz could be Glen Beck's offsider
21:39:30 <President_Trump> beck has been his #1 supporter for a long time
21:40:21 <Tigger_> go on his show and talk about the federal reserve
21:41:08 <President_Trump> so much for all the cruz supporters walking out when trump came on stage
21:44:01 <Tigger_> I wonder by what margin Cruz holds his senate seat
21:47:21 <Tigger_> Cruz won with 4.5 million votes (56.4%) to Sadler's 3.2 million (40.6%). Two minor candidates garnered the remaining 3% of the vote.
21:47:46 <Tigger_> he's probably safe, but this is as far as he can go
22:09:59 Topic Is: What all white male Crooked Hillary supporters look like: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl0B8XQWQAAY_rx.jpg:large
22:09:59 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Wed Jul 20 18:44:20 2016
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22:13:53 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8EZCE18Ls
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22:16:36 <Tigger_> a stinker video
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22:17:08 <Marttin> UTOYA
22:17:12 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Marttin
22:17:14 <Marttin> 5th anniversary
22:17:58 <Marttin> a day to remember hanneh kristin fridtun
22:19:11 <Tigger_> 5th anniversary? of what?
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22:19:43 <Marttin> norway's massacre
22:19:48 <Marttin> morning doctor
22:19:57 <doctor> morning Marttin
22:20:26 <Tigger_> oh that's right
22:20:29 <Tigger_> hi doctor
22:20:32 <Tigger_> where have you been?
22:20:51 <Tigger_> for Marttin: http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/bernie-sanders-rbg-ben-garrison_2_orig.jpg
22:20:53 <doctor> hey Tigger_
22:20:57 <doctor> no where in particular
22:21:26 <Marttin> lulz
22:25:04 <Marttin> https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/756189114987192320
22:26:27 <Tigger_> Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein 7h7 hours ago
22:26:27 <Tigger_> Greens will keep standing with the LGBTQ community. I ask Don & Hillary, where do you stand on a non-binary option for government forms?
22:26:40 <Tigger_> asking the questions that dare not be asked
22:27:21 <Tigger_> Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein 9h9 hours ago
22:27:21 <Tigger_> So Hillary is #ImWithHer. Now Donald is apparently #ImWithYou. I'm with anyone who is going to address 9ft sea level rise by 2050.
22:27:25 <Tigger_> lol
22:27:47 <Tigger_> only 34 years away
22:28:03 <Marttin> Trump says we will be a country of warmth. Is this his first recognition of climate change?
22:28:45 <Tigger_> of warm love.... for the white race
22:30:05 <Tigger_> less people believe in climate change than ever, but there will always be holdouts, same as people who believe in the Illuminati
22:30:33 <tjj44_> the illuminati are the jesuits started by francis loyola
22:32:03 <doctor> I dont think so
22:33:54 <Tigger_> Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit, it's where he got the idea of confession as a means of control over the initiates
22:34:11 <Tigger_> but the Illuminati are not Jesuits
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22:36:49 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is Very efficient
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22:44:33 <GreekSnake> https://twitter.com/GnonProphet/status/756322069038657536
22:44:36 <GreekSnake> this is epic
22:44:56 <GreekSnake> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn7-6KJXEAAN2p-.jpg:large
22:51:13 <Arbition> The thing is, Tigger_, nature doesn't give a shit what mere people thik
22:51:17 <Arbition> *think
22:52:23 <Tigger_> nor does nature care about fashions in doomsday prophecies
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22:56:13 <Arbition> Indeed not
22:56:15 <Arbition> it just is
22:56:45 <Tigger_> for the 9 feet sea level rise by 2050, this is an average rise of 3.17 inches per year from now till then, she is either the ultimate optimist or ultimate pessimist
22:56:48 <Arbition> Which is why we dedicate so much to observing it and finding patterns
22:57:13 <Arbition> A single doomsday prophet with an outrageous claim does not completely invalidate all variants
22:57:20 <Tigger_> that is true
22:58:02 <Tigger_> but all the same, I absolutely do not expect the more 'respectable' climate change advocates to publicly correct her
22:58:34 <Arbition> It pretty much doesn't matter
22:58:39 <Arbition> it is already basically runaway
22:58:41 <xm> i finally got around to connecting the NASs to the UPS
22:58:55 <xm> i should take a photo some time
22:59:01 <Arbition> coral bleaching is simply the first stage
22:59:04 <xm> but im too lazyto get up and get the phone in the other room
22:59:31 <doctor> If we manage to make the world uninhabitable I don't think there will be anything around after to miss us
23:00:26 <doctor> I don't like filthy cities so it would be nice to see people make more of an effort to be less disgusting
23:00:40 <Tigger_> we'd need to detonate every nuclear warhead on Earth to do that, even then I'm not sure it would work
23:01:14 <Arbition> even if we stopped all emissions right now, it would take a couple of decades for CO2 levels (now at 400ppm in all parts of the world) to regress
23:01:22 <Tigger_> xm, I'd like to see a phto
23:01:29 <Tigger_> photo
23:01:38 <Arbition> compared to 300ppm around 40 years ago
23:01:59 <Arbition> 40-50 years ago that
23:02:01 <Arbition> is
23:03:00 <doctor> I wont go as far to say that we are doomed, but it would be easier for our wellbeing to take into consideration our impact on our environment
23:03:07 <Tigger_> but what does that actually translate to in terms of real world effects? so far nature seems to be quite elastic
23:04:00 <Arbition> Rainfall will become more sporadic but intense
23:04:03 <doctor> Hotter and drier I assume
23:05:06 <doctor> Perth already has sporadic and intense rainfall, it's pretty bad as the earth has usually dried up by then, so it takes a while for the soil to absorb it
23:05:27 <Arbition> right, so now that becomes the norm in more places
23:05:41 <Tigger_> in that case humans have invented weather control technology, so the rational course is to pursue it further
23:05:42 <doctor> yeah it'll probably get worse
23:05:51 <doctor> that would be nice
23:06:29 <Arbition> Cloud seeding works to an extent
23:07:16 <Arbition> over an area as large as australia, I suspect it is not viable
23:07:22 <President_Trump> I AM THE LAW AND ORDER CANDIDATE
23:07:27 <doctor> we shouldn't have killed off the pagan druids, then we might have more of an interest in that kind of thing
23:07:29 <Warren1984> Tigger_ xm caught you and Dr. Clop smoking weed in the barn
23:07:58 <Warren1984> clip clop looked really stoned
23:08:06 <Warren1984> and had the munchies
23:08:18 <Warren1984> chomping away at the apple trees
23:08:26 <Tigger_> but let's say that anthropogenic climate change is real, then why isn't anyone advocating population controls on the third world, since population increases, plus increases in affluence, which they are also experiencing, are the greatest contributors to climate change
23:08:28 <doctor> dem apple trees
23:08:49 <Arbition> They are, with respect to birth control techniques
23:09:11 <Tigger_> so far it doesn't seem to be working, Africa's population growth rate is actually rising
23:09:18 <doctor> Generally advocating genocide doesn't settle in well with most people
23:09:23 <Arbition> you said advocating
23:09:48 <Tigger_> advocating controls, not advocating self-restraint
23:10:06 <Arbition> Well to do anything else would invovle war
23:10:10 <Arbition> war is expensive
23:10:35 <doctor> They'll stop having so many babies when they're not so worried about survival
23:10:58 <Arbition> That took about 2 or 3 generations in the western world
23:10:58 <Tigger_> so the entire climate change movement is non-serious, lacking real convictions, and instead wants to make a fuss about marginal issues like how much people use their AC
23:11:04 <Arbition> as demonstrated by the baby boom
23:11:07 <doctor> but most of the problems in that part of the world can only be resolved by them
23:11:16 <doctor> killing each other, ect.
23:11:55 <Tigger_> says who? what precedent is there for Africa to adopt K-selection over r-selection?
23:12:31 <Arbition> Well I pretty much already declared it too late
23:12:48 <Arbition> Conviction or not, nothing more than token has been done
23:13:20 <Warren1984> hey doctor
23:13:30 <Arbition> It isn't climate change inflicting it after all
23:13:42 <Arbition> they could all go away but nature still goes about its business
23:13:43 <Warren1984> Arbition's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3msPoqqCNo
23:13:47 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Dj Rui Da Silva- Touch Me (Feb 8, 2007) Length: 5:05 - Category: Music - 17,682,678 views views - 45,392 likes (97.2%), 1,284 dislikes (2.8%)
23:14:00 <doctor> hey warren
23:14:01 <Tigger_> it's not so much about what is done, but what measures are actually advocated, if one actually believes these predicted outcomes, then there is great moral onus on articulating the most effective measures
23:14:20 <Arbition> morality still not relevant in the eyes of nature
23:14:29 <Tigger_> I'm talking about the morality of humans
23:14:36 <Arbition> mmhmm
23:14:48 <Arbition> so they have conflicting moralities, whats new
23:14:51 <Arbition> nature don't care
23:15:28 <Tigger_> why would someone devote so much energy to hectoring for marginal policies about using solar power and so on, when they studiously ignore the population elephant in the room?
23:15:42 <Tigger_> this alone proves that they themselves do not actually believe in climate change
23:15:49 <Arbition> hahaha
23:16:00 <Arbition> right, because belief will manifest reality
23:17:01 <Tigger_> they may be virtue signalling, may be a hectoring busybody, may be resentful towards affluence, but what they absolutely are not is believers in anthropogenic climate change
23:17:50 <Arbition> Maybe the politico public
23:17:56 <Tigger_> scientists
23:18:02 <Arbition> Yeah dream on
23:18:29 <Arbition> As I keep saying, it is frankly irrelevant what humans merely think
23:18:32 <Tigger_> if they truly believed it, they would be demanding forced sterilisations throughout the third world
23:18:50 <Arbition> Only if they had your other belief systems\
23:19:03 <Arbition> What you posit as logic may not be correct
23:19:14 <Tigger_> no, they'd advocate it for the sole reason of climate change
23:19:47 <Marttin> africa population isnt really a problem
23:19:49 <Arbition> That still ignores the possibility that your assumptions are incorrect
23:20:03 <Marttin> probably warren produce more CO2 than 5.000 niggers
23:20:13 <Tigger_> Africa's population is projected to reach 4 billion by the end of the 21st century
23:21:03 <Arbition> by Marttin's ratio, Europeans + americans now multiplied by emissions is still more than africa in 80 years time
23:21:03 <Tigger_> driving around a tesla car isn't going to make any difference faced with that sort of impact (it does in virtue signalling of course)
23:21:33 <Arbition> The Elephant in the room is that the biggest emitters are all our combined heavy industries
23:21:36 <Marttin> it makes cities wind cleaner though
23:21:54 <Tigger_> which are mostly in China, and again nobody is doing anything about that
23:22:10 <Arbition> Only complete economic stifiing would stop anything
23:22:14 <Arbition> and no one will stomach that
23:22:27 <Arbition> in china, exported to the world
23:22:37 <Tigger_> again if they were serious, they'd be the loudest advocates of trade embargoes against China
23:23:00 <Marttin> what bernie and jill want
23:23:07 <Arbition> What they think is serious may differ from what you consider serious
23:23:27 <Tigger_> serious as in: actually believed their own words
23:23:30 <Arbition> Not forgetting Scientists aren't particularly poltically savvy or powerful
23:24:13 <Arbition> Tigger_: You're still trying to find an agenda without considering the possibility you might be wrong about something else. Data irrelevant because look agenda
23:24:36 <Tigger_> so now that we know that they absolutely do not believe in climate change themselves, we have to admit that the cause is simply a stalking horse for policies that are emotionally or financially driven, that they could not justify any other way
23:24:45 <Arbition> what
23:24:54 <Arbition> You haven't even considered the data
23:25:01 <Arbition> you've instead focused *soley* on motive
23:25:15 <Tigger_> I am not considering the data, I am not making an argument about science at all
23:25:28 <Arbition> By putting it through a series of tests you have devised
23:25:33 <Tigger_> yes
23:25:45 <Arbition> which I have disputed on the philosophical level
23:25:54 <Arbition> and yet you speak as if you speak for all of us
23:25:57 <Tigger_> If one truly believes A, then they must advocate B
23:26:16 <Arbition> with how many ??? ??? ??? steps before profit?
23:26:29 <Tigger_> not too many, for some
23:26:42 <Arbition> As I said, what you consider B, does not match
23:26:48 <Arbition> this was my philosophical dispute
23:27:06 <Arbition> the assumptions you've assessed may not match those who actually look at the data
23:27:10 <Tigger_> Al Gore's personal fortune went from $2 million when he got on the global warming crusade to over $100 million
23:27:35 <Arbition> A scientist might not have a particularly complete worldview, but does specialise in their field
23:27:41 <President_Trump> lol
23:27:50 <President_Trump> every single thing al gore promised would happen by 2015 didnt happen
23:27:53 <Arbition> Specialisation does not mean generalised genius
23:28:24 <Arbition> and that is still assuming you've assessed causes correctly
23:28:33 <Tigger_> if you several billion more consumers that do not exist now, then you will have vastly multiplied the contributing factors to climate change. this is not arguable
23:28:49 <Tigger_> add several*
23:29:01 <Arbition> But to someone who hasn't considered this, but has a specialisation in climate research, this is besides the point
23:29:09 <Arbition> scientists are not really activists
23:29:55 <Arbition> The fact that I am defending scientists in this manner should be a massive red flag
23:29:56 <Tigger_> well it's not very hard to figure out, if they were serious they'd so say, they'd ensure activists knew this
23:30:08 <Tigger_> why?
23:30:49 <Arbition> Because ultimately it is politics which leads to action or the lack of action, and you're applying all the political filters to a group of the population which is not particularly political
23:31:11 <Tigger_> they publish papers, so that's where they'd start
23:31:49 <Arbition> right, and?
23:33:25 <Tigger_> and that would provide the activists with the data to argue in the political sphere
23:33:55 <Arbition> activists who have conflicting morals so don't advance your expected arguments
23:34:05 <Arbition> meanwhile scientists go about their business in research
23:35:35 <Tigger_> it would not be a very difficult thing for the scientists to do, and once the data is provided, then you'd have a different set of self-selected activists that would take it up
23:35:59 <Arbition> howso? All the activists who have taken it up are left leaning
23:36:08 <Arbition> How many right leaning activists are taking this up?
23:36:38 <Tigger_> in the 1970s leftist activists were concerned about overpopulation, so there is a precedent
23:36:59 <Arbition> So you've identified that activists have popular agendas
23:37:06 <Arbition> still says nothing for scientists
23:37:22 <Tigger_> the provision of data would change the activist culture
23:37:35 <Arbition> Data in what?
23:37:38 <Marttin> Warren1984: sell your laptop and buy the new NVIDIA TITAL X
23:37:42 <Arbition> There is already plenty of climate data
23:37:43 <Marttin> TITAN*
23:37:55 <Arbition> sociology and climatology aren't really strongly interacting fields
23:38:35 <Arbition> climatologists obviously aren't particularly concerned with the study of affected populations
23:38:48 <Arbition> and you might expect sociologist to have a more political bent
23:39:10 <Tigger_> again if they were serious, such calculations are not very difficult
23:39:37 <Arbition> on the part of the climatologist or the sociologist?
23:40:07 <Tigger_> so scientists think to themselves "I must write research papers that hold appeal for leftist activists?"
23:40:17 <Arbition> sociologists would
23:40:33 <Tigger_> well it would be a demographer rather than a sociologist
23:40:34 <Arbition> climatologists have no weight in publications of sociology
23:40:45 <Arbition> same deal
23:40:52 <Arbition> not their field, so they won't bother
23:41:12 <Arbition> Climatologists have spend many years in the study of climate
23:41:12 <Warren1984> Tigger_ we must not be forgetful of the fact that when Arbition talks you MUST LISTEN
23:41:14 <Arbition> that is their thing
23:41:44 <Tigger_> demography is largely an empirical field, it would not be very difficult to partner with climatologists for cross-disciplinary research
23:42:18 <Arbition> right so what we see then is a single department creating papers based on papers already written without collaboration
23:42:31 <President_Trump> Warren1984 can u find out what your dad thinks about global warming
23:42:33 <Arbition> the papers already exist without that view to future use
23:43:08 <Warren1984> he doesn't believe in it President_Trump
23:44:37 <Arbition> which means one of two things, 1. they are wildly biased or 2. you don't agree with their summaries
23:44:49 <Tigger_> it can not mean #2
23:44:56 <Arbition> sorry what?
23:45:02 <Arbition> Did you just declare yourself omiscient?
23:45:30 <Tigger_> my views do not have any bearing on this argument, they're irrelevant
23:46:02 <Arbition> They are relevant, on account of you devised a test based on them by which you are filtering the research output
23:46:38 <Tigger_> someone who is a believer in climate change could very well ask exactly the same question, for different reasons
23:46:39 <Arbition> tests, I might add, are already based on your opinions of what is important
23:47:10 <Tigger_> their motivation could be to demand that more be done
23:47:54 <Tigger_> then you could have an entirely disinterested observer also asking exactly the same question as a philosophical puzzle, with no commitment to the outcome
23:47:57 <Arbition> Such as birth control? Abortion? What about stopping deforestation in third world countries where they're frantically clearing as much as they can to convert to farmland
23:48:25 <Arbition> Deforestation has been on that agenda for a long long time
23:48:48 <Tigger_> such as mass sterilisation programs, as one possible policy
23:49:25 <Arbition> Ah but that conclusion supports your own belief that they will never amount to anything.
23:50:15 <Tigger_> no you could believe third worlders are all wonderful, yet still advocate mass sterilisation as you would for any other beloved species that outgrows its environment
23:50:39 <Arbition> Frankly I think population controls in all countries, China style might be good
23:51:09 <Arbition> 1 child
23:51:20 <Tigger_> China had the discipline to do it itself, African countries are unlikely to do so
23:51:22 <Arbition> with exceptions only for things like engineers
23:52:10 <Arbition> Right so you're suggesting the only solution for African countries is to infringe on their sovereignity. Which as I suggested earlier leads to war
23:52:37 <Tigger_> Africa doesn't have much ability to wage war against the west
23:52:38 <Marttin> african countries enjoy of so much peace today...
23:52:57 <Arbition> well fwiw the left doesn't like waging war
23:53:09 <Tigger_> they don't even have much ability to wage war against neighbouring countries, African conflict is typically societal breakdown
23:53:16 <Arbition> which is one of the things I was referring to with conflicting morality
23:54:03 <Tigger_> you need a certain level of competence to invade your neighbour
23:54:13 <Arbition> while the right seems to mostly ignore climate change and so no researchers with that moral basis exist, essentially
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23:55:10 <Arbition> demographers I imagine are broadly left leaning
23:55:14 <Tigger_> there is that Dutch fellow who agrees that climate change is real, but advocates not trying to stop it
23:55:27 <Arbition> A practical guy
23:55:40 <Arbition> I certiainly don't see how anything could happen
23:56:11 <Arbition> There is never enough political will to do anything so darastic as wage war and choke economies at the same time
23:56:24 <Tigger_> he sees the climate change industry as a lot of pigs with their snouts in the trough, everyone getting money to do things of no importance
23:57:02 <Tigger_> actually the west regularly wages wars against opponents considerably more competent than African nations, so this shouldn't be a problem
23:57:09 <Warren1984> 7 billion people in the world, meaing 7 billion stinkers giving off methane
23:57:18 <Warren1984> meaning
23:57:20 <Arbition> no but the third world isn't the only cause of emissions
23:57:34 <Arbition> the first world is teh *current* leader in these stakes
23:57:40 <Warren1984> animals who feed those 7 billion also have stinkers and give off methane
23:57:43 <Tigger_> it'll be the greatest future source of emissions with demographic trends unchecked
23:57:48 <Arbition> sure
23:57:59 <Arbition> but there's problems with current levels, not just future levels
23:58:20 <Arbition> I did already mention the 33% increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide earlier in 50 years right?
23:58:27 <Tigger_> it's actually easier to change the future than the present, the present has already happened
23:58:51 <Marttin> the first world is also the last to be hit by global warming, also the less severely affected
23:58:57 <Arbition> the first world is part of the future as well as the present
23:59:31 <Tigger_> first world populations are stable
23:59:43 <Marttin> but the sistem isnt
23:59:48 <Arbition> emissions continue. It is not the case that emissions only occur at birth
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