// #politicaldebate — 2016-03-31
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00:00:00 <mrwuf> ya its interesting that ISIS goals are so in-line with american goals
00:00:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is where ISIS got their name -> https://youtu.be/JqByZjhDL_8?t=1340
00:00:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Complete History of Israel's Intelligence Community: Mossad, Aman, and Shin Bet (1990) (Feb 14, 2014) Length: 54:57 - Category: Education - 315,919 views - 693 likes (91.3%), 66 dislikes (8.7%)
00:00:49 Nick: Clip_De_Clop is now known as Warren1984
00:01:00 <mrwuf> in fact I can't spot anywhere they diverge
00:01:01 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is where ISIS got their name -> https://youtu.be/JqByZjhDL_8?t=1340
00:01:05 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Complete History of Israel's Intelligence Community: Mossad, Aman, and Shin Bet (1990) (Feb 14, 2014) Length: 54:57 - Category: Education - 315,919 views - 693 likes (91.3%), 66 dislikes (8.7%)
00:02:00 <Tigger_> slight correction: <mrwuf> ya its interesting that ISIS goals are so in-line with Obama's goals
00:03:00 <mrwuf> well with the intelligence or think tanks policies
00:03:00 <screws> its a good thing thats complete bullshit
00:04:00 <mrwuf> the president is really not very powerful we saw obama run on "change" he wanted to regulate wall street, yet he hired the CEO's of the companies behind that credit default swap ponzi scam, the same people largey that comprised the Bush2 cabinet and put them in treasurey, theres a cool movie about it called Inside Job thats narrated by matt damon
00:04:33 <screws> its a good thing thats complete bullshit
00:05:00 <President_Trump> no one apart from crazed niggers and mentally ill liberals thought obama was going to do anything
00:05:00 <screws> just a coincidence the letters are similiar
00:05:00 <screws> no conspiracy theories
00:06:00 <President_Trump> hi screws
00:06:00 <Tigger_> that is correct, just a silly conspiracy theory
00:06:15 <screws> just a coincidence the letters are similiar
00:06:21 <screws> no conspiracy theories
00:07:00 <screws> isis would wipe israel off the map if they could.
00:07:18 <President_Trump> hi screws
00:07:28 <Tigger_> that is correct, just a silly conspiracy theory
00:08:00 <Warren1984> It's like 911 being the emergency number
00:08:00 <Warren1984> in America
00:08:00 <Warren1984> 9/11 attacks
00:08:18 <screws> isis would wipe israel off the map if they could.
00:09:00 <Tigger_> he was out of his depth, so couldn't do much except follow the advice of leading experts like John Kerry
00:09:00 <Warren1984> screws but even if it is conspiracy why does it matter?
00:09:00 <screws> because you start spreadin bullshit and more bullshit spreads
00:09:00 <screws> its like a snowball effect
00:09:00 <Warren1984> It's like if I wanted to hurt Tigger_'s feelings, I could come up with something nasty using the words Y.E.O.W.I.E. for example
00:09:00 <Warren1984> not that I would do it
00:09:00 <screws> so why are you posting about it
00:09:00 <screws> if it doesnt apparently matter
00:09:02 <Warren1984> It's like 911 being the emergency number
00:09:08 <Warren1984> in America
00:09:13 <Warren1984> 9/11 attacks
00:10:00 <mrwuf> they have too much too lose to simply give up
00:10:00 <Warren1984> just interesting I though
00:10:00 <Warren1984> nothing to be paranoid about
00:10:00 <Warren1984> conspiracy is only when it's got to do with paranoia
00:10:00 <screws> or even mild anxiety
00:10:00 <screws> http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12331440_1033922963335128_515917316_n.jpg?se=7&ig_cache_key=MTE0NzQ0ODM0MzYxMzAzMDM2NQ%3D%3D.2
00:10:00 <screws> that aint no conspiracy
00:10:01 <Warren1984> screws but even if it is conspiracy why does it matter?
00:10:33 <screws> because you start spreadin bullshit and more bullshit spreads
00:10:39 <screws> its like a snowball effect
00:10:39 <Warren1984> It's like if I wanted to hurt Tigger_'s feelings, I could come up with something nasty using the words Y.E.O.W.I.E. for example
00:10:44 <Warren1984> not that I would do it
00:10:52 <screws> so why are you posting about it
00:10:55 <screws> if it doesnt apparently matter
00:11:00 <mrwuf> -o
00:11:00 <President_Trump> who do mrwuf?
00:11:00 <Warren1984> screws if I said I am goting to screws your Mum, it's not conspiracy it is an insult
00:11:00 <Warren1984> going
00:11:03 <Warren1984> just interesting I though
00:11:18 <Warren1984> nothing to be paranoid about
00:11:42 <Warren1984> conspiracy is only when it's got to do with paranoia
00:11:53 <screws> or even mild anxiety
00:11:55 <screws> http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12331440_1033922963335128_515917316_n.jpg?se=7&ig_cache_key=MTE0NzQ0ODM0MzYxMzAzMDM2NQ%3D%3D.2
00:11:57 <screws> that aint no conspiracy
00:12:00 <Tigger_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cet8wRfW4AAtcUZ.jpg:large
00:12:00 <mrwuf> the economic people behind the wall street credit default swaps
00:12:00 <Warren1984> I.S.I.S could be just an insult
00:12:00 <Warren1984> 9/11 insult
00:12:48 <Warren1984> screws if I said I am goting to screws your Mum, it's not conspiracy it is an insult
00:13:00 <Warren1984> going
00:13:00 <Warren1984> well that is my opinion I could be wrong
00:13:49 <Warren1984> I.S.I.S could be just an insult
00:13:54 <Warren1984> 9/11 insult
00:14:00 <Tigger_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cet7G_EWIAEV8Nx.jpg:large
00:14:00 <President_Trump> lol not bad
00:14:00 <mrwuf> they personally lobbied government to reduce legalisation under clinton, the laws that were enacted after the great depression, then exploited this by making their companies bigger and bigger, then sold junk investments, predatory loans with AAA ratings to make personal bonuses then when their businesses went bankrupt, they had the government bail them out
00:14:00 <Warren1984> screws nickname is related to screws holding up my roof, could that be screws doing it
00:14:00 <Warren1984> that is conspiracy
00:14:45 <Warren1984> well that is my opinion I could be wrong
00:15:00 <President_Trump> http://witchykitten.bravehost.com/mp3/hellosydney.mp3
00:15:22 <Warren1984> screws nickname is related to screws holding up my roof, could that be screws doing it
00:15:28 <Warren1984> that is conspiracy
00:16:00 <mrwuf> places like goldman sachs were selling these as investments and getting sign on bonuses then going and betting against them, that they would fail
00:16:00 <Warren1984> screws are you going to lick out her stinker
00:16:00 <Tigger_> ISIS has gone through several different names, such as IS and ISIL, that was just the one that stuck
00:17:00 <Tigger_> the #cruzsexscandal is still getting about a thousand tweets an hour, four days in
00:17:00 <President_Trump> that's called 'hedging'
00:17:32 <Warren1984> screws are you going to lick out her stinker
00:17:32 <Tigger_> ISIS has gone through several different names, such as IS and ISIL, that was just the one that stuck
00:18:00 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceq1GXVWwAAm14j.jpg
00:18:00 <Tigger_> title should say "Literally Hitler"
00:18:00 <mrwuf> they weren't telling the people they were selling them that they were junk and that they were betting against them, they had them rated at AAA the highest rating, investment funds usually can only make safe bets, like our super funds, they thought they were legit investments, its because they combined these predatory loans with all other sorts of loans
00:19:00 <mrwuf> it was a scam and the people that pulled it off and extremely rich, obama wanted to prosecute and bring about change to relegation yet nothing happened, he ended up appointing the same CEO and board members implicated in the scandal to high cabinet positions
00:20:00 <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/oNQY0N0.jpg
00:20:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, what do you think of this? http://41.media.tumblr.com/bb8023a47f31c7c04dce38f54c38dc1a/tumblr_n0qn5hURv61sa77weo1_1280.jpg
00:21:00 <Tigger_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CekyVPCWQAEHyXP.jpg:large
00:21:00 <mrwuf> https://kat.cr/inside-job-2010-720p-brrip-x264-yify-t8866637.html
00:21:08 <Tigger_> Warren1984, what do you think of this? http://41.media.tumblr.com/bb8023a47f31c7c04dce38f54c38dc1a/tumblr_n0qn5hURv61sa77weo1_1280.jpg
00:22:00 <mrwuf> this story never really made mainstream media
00:23:00 <Tigger_> and it's not all Cruz memes today: https://lphoto3.ask.fm/082/421/459/-149996964-201c5fd-8nipotl2th7mthf/large/12417872_10153405033175824_4479198269248070154_n.jpg
00:26:00 <Tigger_> my favourite: http://i.imgur.com/wefZc4R.jpg
00:29:00 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceqz0OeWsAAeDDU.jpg
00:30:00 <erlich> Rolling Stone endorses Clinton
00:30:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/inside-the-mind-of-a-hostagetaker/news-story/a3240e9daab2edd8d71f14c2bdd7b6d6
00:31:00 <erlich> are they the one that also released that fake rape story?
00:31:00 <erlich> i never paid much attention before to their plitical leaning
00:31:00 <Tigger_> heh, Kasich wants to build a wall?
00:31:00 <Tigger_> yes, Rolling Stone got caught up in that 50 Shades of Grey rape fantasy
00:31:00 <screws> 01:06 <Skirmish> You are that type of guy screws. Always desperate to 1 up that guy that gives you a hard time and you would have no reservations fucking with someones job irl. Pliv has been around for a long time and everyone knows he loves getting personal info on people.
00:31:00 <Warren1984> greeksnake would like it
00:31:00 <President_Trump> skirmish doesnt come in here screws
00:31:56 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/inside-the-mind-of-a-hostagetaker/news-story/a3240e9daab2edd8d71f14c2bdd7b6d6
00:32:00 <mrwuf> old rock stars are gross
00:32:00 <Tigger_> the magazine, not the band
00:32:00 <erlich> i suspect they arnet left-leaning, but that's as a guess
00:32:00 <erlich> they come from proper families
00:32:00 <erlich> Mick at least
00:32:00 <Tigger_> who?
00:32:00 <Tigger_> oh the band, Mick Jagger is a conservative
00:32:00 <Warren1984> President_Trump did screws undo the screws in your brain, or is that just conspiracy
00:32:04 <screws> 01:06 <Skirmish> You are that type of guy screws. Always desperate to 1 up that guy that gives you a hard time and you would have no reservations fucking with someones job irl. Pliv has been around for a long time and everyone knows he loves getting personal info on people.
00:32:14 <Warren1984> greeksnake would like it
00:32:39 <President_Trump> skirmish doesnt come in here screws
00:33:00 <mrwuf> they used to run hunter s thompsons articles that all I read
00:33:00 <erlich> yeah i was hinging on mrwuf's comments
00:33:00 <erlich> but i originally meant the magazine
00:33:00 <Tigger_> Mick Jagger liked Thatcher and couldn't understand why anyone wouldn't
00:33:00 <erlich> that definitely makes him a conservative then
00:33:00 <erlich> i forget the name of that druggie, but he looks like death and given his habit i dont know if he;d be a conservative
00:33:00 <President_Trump> screws = prom
00:33:00 <Warren1984> I thought Prom was dead
00:33:00 <Warren1984> DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR
00:33:59 <Warren1984> President_Trump did screws undo the screws in your brain, or is that just conspiracy
00:34:00 <Tigger_> Keith Richards
00:34:00 <President_Trump> kasich wants to build a wall, hillary wants to build a fence
00:34:00 <Tigger_> I don't like Phil Collins music, but I liked the way how he threatened to leave England if the Labour party ever came to power, then actually did it
00:34:00 <President_Trump> I'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU WANTED ME TO DO!!!!!!
00:34:00 <Warren1984> It takes some guts to capture a group of people and issue threats, even if you are armed. Dr Helen McGrath, adjunct psychology professor at Deakin University and author of Why did they do it? Inside the minds of Australia’s most unlikely killers, told news.com.au many hostage-takers have narcissistic personality disorders.
00:34:00 <President_Trump> SO WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME??
00:34:00 <Warren1984> sounds like lish
00:34:15 <President_Trump> screws = prom
00:34:25 <Warren1984> I thought Prom was dead
00:34:59 <Warren1984> DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR
00:35:00 <President_Trump> Right-wing protest group Casuals United Belgium is set to stage a controversial march through the Brussels district of Molenbeek, the area known as the jihadist capital of Europe.
00:35:00 <President_Trump> http://www.infowars.com/right-wing-belgians-to-march-through-molenbeek/
00:35:00 <Warren1984> lish = narcissistic personality disorders
00:35:00 <Warren1984> “It’s not just a big ego, it’s a really distinct pattern of behaviour and thinking, it’s grandiose,” she said. “It’s about being admired and having other people see them a certain way. It’s delusional.” <- schizophrenia
00:35:32 <President_Trump> I'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU WANTED ME TO DO!!!!!!
00:35:44 <Warren1984> It takes some guts to capture a group of people and issue threats, even if you are armed. Dr Helen McGrath, adjunct psychology professor at Deakin University and author of Why did they do it? Inside the minds of Australia’s most unlikely killers, told news.com.au many hostage-takers have narcissistic personality disorders.
00:35:48 <President_Trump> SO WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME??
00:35:50 <Warren1984> sounds like lish
00:36:00 <Tigger_> #therealterrorists
00:36:00 <President_Trump> hitler
00:36:00 <President_Trump> Warren1984 have you PIGGED DOWN your panadeine forte today?
00:36:00 <Warren1984> yeah
00:36:00 <Warren1984> but only had my usual 4 pills today
00:36:00 <President_Trump> junkie
00:36:06 <Warren1984> lish = narcissistic personality disorders
00:36:47 <Warren1984> “It’s not just a big ego, it’s a really distinct pattern of behaviour and thinking, it’s grandiose,” she said. “It’s about being admired and having other people see them a certain way. It’s delusional.” <- schizophrenia
00:37:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/restaurants-bars/no-ice-n-diners-slam-restaurant-after-spotting-racist-word-on-their-bill/news-story/9a72c82f96313d3f2a15173515942011
00:37:00 <Warren1984> I crush it then snort it
00:37:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ abuses horse tranquilizers
00:37:38 <President_Trump> Warren1984 have you PIGGED DOWN your panadeine forte today?
00:37:44 <Warren1984> yeah
00:37:55 <Warren1984> but only had my usual 4 pills today
00:37:59 <President_Trump> junkie
00:38:00 <Tigger_> I have had panadeine forte before, when I broke my leg
00:38:00 <Warren1984> instead of shooting clip clop to temporary put him to sleep
00:38:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ takes some of it himself to get high
00:38:00 <Warren1984> it's good stuff hey
00:38:00 <Warren1984> you can get over the counter stuff
00:38:00 <Warren1984> but it's shit
00:38:00 <Tigger_> the hospital gave me a box to take home, but I only took one, and the box stayed in the drawer for a few years, then I chucked it away
00:38:21 <Warren1984> I crush it then snort it
00:38:42 <Warren1984> Tigger_ abuses horse tranquilizers
00:39:00 <Tigger_> how else were they supposed to know who the no-ice drink was for?
00:39:00 <Warren1984> it claims to be 15mg of codeine
00:39:00 <Warren1984> panadiene forte is 30mg
00:39:00 <Warren1984> but there is no way the over the counter stuff works
00:39:00 <President_Trump> wwhy wouldnt it work?
00:39:00 <Warren1984> because stuff not prescribed is crap
00:39:11 <Tigger_> I have had panadeine forte before, when I broke my leg
00:39:18 <Warren1984> instead of shooting clip clop to temporary put him to sleep
00:39:31 <Warren1984> Tigger_ takes some of it himself to get high
00:39:40 <Warren1984> it's good stuff hey
00:39:48 <Warren1984> you can get over the counter stuff
00:39:52 <Warren1984> but it's shit
00:39:58 <Tigger_> the hospital gave me a box to take home, but I only took one, and the box stayed in the drawer for a few years, then I chucked it away
00:40:00 <President_Trump> you cant do street view in that suburb but you go just across the river and you can
00:40:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/egyptair-domestic-flight-hijacked-heads-for-cyprus/news-story/4b5b2026094465858590647913bba0d6
00:40:00 <Warren1984> they should seperate the codiene from the paracetomal
00:40:00 <Warren1984> paracetomal stuffs up your liver
00:40:08 <Warren1984> it claims to be 15mg of codeine
00:40:16 <Warren1984> panadiene forte is 30mg
00:40:27 <Warren1984> but there is no way the over the counter stuff works
00:40:41 <President_Trump> wwhy wouldnt it work?
00:40:56 <Warren1984> because stuff not prescribed is crap
00:41:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has clip clop ever tried to hi-jack a plane
00:41:00 <Warren1984> kicking through the cock pit door
00:41:00 <Tigger_> Ted Cruz announces that he is quitting his wife and family to spend more time with his campaign.
00:41:00 <Warren1984> kicking down
00:41:00 <President_Trump> they used to do the tablets so half was paracetamol and half was codeine but junkies just kept splitting the tablets and eating the codeine
00:41:29 <Warren1984> they should seperate the codiene from the paracetomal
00:41:40 <Warren1984> paracetomal stuffs up your liver
00:42:00 <Warren1984> well Tigger_
00:42:00 <Tigger_> why not have it all?
00:42:00 <Warren1984> because the codiene turns into morphine in the liver I think
00:42:12 <President_Trump> they used to do the tablets so half was paracetamol and half was codeine but junkies just kept splitting the tablets and eating the codeine
00:43:00 <Tigger_> no, he's never been on a plane
00:43:00 <Warren1984> Before Monis committed his final crime, he had been convicted of a series of minor offences, and had tried to join an outlaw bikie gang. “It’s for the same purpose,” said Dr McGrath. “It’s about arrogance and power. ‘Look at me, see what I can do. I can order a plane to land, I’m a really important, powerful person.”
00:43:00 <President_Trump> paracetamol doesnt make you high, codeine does
00:43:00 <Warren1984> paracetamol rapes your livers stinker
00:43:00 <President_Trump> its not as bad as neurofen
00:43:22 <Tigger_> why not have it all?
00:43:51 <Warren1984> because the codiene turns into morphine in the liver I think
00:44:00 <President_Trump> nurofen
00:44:00 <President_Trump> whatever it is
00:44:00 <Tigger_> I'm so ignorant of all this sort of thing
00:44:03 <Warren1984> Before Monis committed his final crime, he had been convicted of a series of minor offences, and had tried to join an outlaw bikie gang. “It’s for the same purpose,” said Dr McGrath. “It’s about arrogance and power. ‘Look at me, see what I can do. I can order a plane to land, I’m a really important, powerful person.”
00:44:15 <President_Trump> paracetamol doesnt make you high, codeine does
00:44:32 <Warren1984> paracetamol rapes your livers stinker
00:44:57 <President_Trump> its not as bad as neurofen
00:45:11 <President_Trump> nurofen
00:45:13 <President_Trump> whatever it is
00:45:29 <Tigger_> I'm so ignorant of all this sort of thing
00:49:00 <Warren1984> nurofen goes to the stomach
00:49:00 <Warren1984> so it's ok according to my GP
00:50:41 <Warren1984> nurofen goes to the stomach
00:50:51 <Warren1984> so it's ok according to my GP
00:54:00 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNwN11j954Y&feature=youtu.be
00:54:00 <President_Trump> 0WN3D
00:54:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Donald Trump: I won't fire campaign manager Corey Lewandowski (Mar 29, 2016) Length: 2:58 - Category: News & Politics - 66,369 views - 2,080 likes (93.3%), 150 dislikes (6.7%)
00:55:49 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNwN11j954Y&feature=youtu.be
00:55:51 <President_Trump> 0WN3D
00:55:53 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Donald Trump: I won't fire campaign manager Corey Lewandowski (Mar 29, 2016) Length: 2:58 - Category: News & Politics - 66,369 views - 2,080 likes (93.3%), 150 dislikes (6.7%)
00:56:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you are a hostage taker in this channel
00:56:00 <Warren1984> everyone here has to pay attention to you
00:56:00 <Warren1984> otherwise you come after them with clip clop and kill them
00:56:00 <Tigger_> Trump doesn't throw his people under a bus
00:56:00 <Warren1984> removing their name from #pd
00:57:00 <Tigger_> Trump stumps gay Anderson Cooper
00:57:01 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you are a hostage taker in this channel
00:57:13 <Warren1984> everyone here has to pay attention to you
00:57:33 <Warren1984> otherwise you come after them with clip clop and kill them
00:57:34 <Tigger_> Trump doesn't throw his people under a bus
00:57:42 <Warren1984> removing their name from #pd
00:58:00 <President_Trump> you could make a good thug lyfe with that clip
00:58:53 <Tigger_> Trump stumps gay Anderson Cooper
00:59:16 <President_Trump> you could make a good thug lyfe with that clip
01:00:00 <President_Trump> https://vine.co/v/ipmjjDbimlD
01:00:00 <Tigger_> Ollie Barbor3 hours ago
01:00:00 <Tigger_> When will Anderson Cucker learn. It is not possible to strump the Trump.
01:01:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ a potential gf for you -> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/aneska-12-tells-dr-phil-show-violence-makes-me-feel-comfortable/news-story/c53012b2f187f7e313219927bcaa3529
01:01:00 <Tigger_> no
01:01:00 <Tigger_> better potential gf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9hhetIHDzE
01:01:37 <Tigger_> Ollie Barbor3 hours ago
01:01:37 <Tigger_> When will Anderson Cucker learn. It is not possible to strump the Trump.
01:02:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Save Me: Resurfacing Shuffle and Liquid (Apr 25, 2013) Length: 3:58 - Category: Entertainment - 7,774 views - likes (99.2%), 1 dislikes (0.8%)
01:02:00 <Warren1984> sounds like a sociopath
01:02:09 <Warren1984> Tigger_ a potential gf for you -> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/aneska-12-tells-dr-phil-show-violence-makes-me-feel-comfortable/news-story/c53012b2f187f7e313219927bcaa3529
01:02:30 <Tigger_> no
01:02:56 <Tigger_> better potential gf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9hhetIHDzE
01:02:59 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Save Me: Resurfacing Shuffle and Liquid (Apr 25, 2013) Length: 3:58 - Category: Entertainment - 7,774 views - likes (99.2%), 1 dislikes (0.8%)
01:03:00 <President_Trump> https://twitter.com/bocavista2016/status/714660388730703872
01:03:00 <President_Trump> LOL
01:03:00 <President_Trump> it is funny the way trump let it all play out when he knew all along he had the security footage
01:03:49 <Warren1984> sounds like a sociopath
01:04:57 <President_Trump> it is funny the way trump let it all play out when he knew all along he had the security footage
01:07:00 <Tigger_> Carly just earned her $500k
01:09:00 <President_Trump> she might have insisted VP
01:09:00 <President_Trump> she could demand anything
01:09:00 <Tigger_> and the DailyMail, though British, is the most read news site in the US
01:09:00 <miles> was looking and a trance channel
01:10:00 <President_Trump> really?
01:10:00 <Tigger_> yes
01:10:00 <miles> on youtube
01:10:00 <miles> with 56k subscribers
01:10:00 <miles> reccomends my song
01:10:00 <Tigger_> your new song?
01:10:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/cia-exposed-for-photographing-detainees-naked-before-torture/news-story/bfb09f6c77c6550f53f66742eefc39fb
01:10:00 <Tigger_> he's also setting himself apart from the timid managerial class that run from confected controversy and cave in to activist demands
01:11:00 <President_Trump> http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/news-websites
01:11:00 <President_Trump> number 8 according to that
01:11:16 <Tigger_> he's also setting himself apart from the timid managerial class that run from confected controversy and cave in to activist demands
01:12:00 <Tigger_> hmmm, I've read otherwise, it might depend on how they do their metrics
01:14:00 <Tigger_> DailyMail is the most right leaning major news site, I wouldn't be surprised if it has pushed American politics accordingly
01:15:00 <Tigger_> that list pegs New York Times at #5, the article I read made a big deal about how DailyMail passed it
01:16:00 <Tigger_> http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/jan/25/dailymail-internet
01:16:00 <doctor> nothing a severe beating cant fix
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01:17:04 <doctor> nothing a severe beating cant fix
01:18:00 <Warren1984> Ivanthe_FUCKING_FAGGOT_CUNT
01:18:00 <Tigger_> NY Times and other sites don't seem to grasp the internet yet, they don't have many photos, and they write with brevity, as if they're trying to save paper and ink
01:18:00 <qwerty> yo doctor
01:18:00 <doctor> qwerty
01:18:00 <qwerty> hows things mate
01:19:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
01:19:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you rode clip clop onto the plane
01:19:00 <Tigger_> while DailyMail understands that there are no limitations, so they fill it with photos, and the text goes into all possible detail
01:19:00 <Warren1984> got him to kick down the cockpit door
01:19:00 <Warren1984> and boot the pilots out the cockpit windows
01:19:00 <qwerty> crickets on
01:19:13 <qwerty> yo doctor
01:19:29 <doctor> qwerty
01:19:45 <qwerty> hows things mate
01:20:00 <Warren1984> in order to hi-jack a plane
01:20:00 <President_Trump> dailymail has so many stupid stories, that just comment on things
01:20:00 <President_Trump> rather than report news
01:20:00 <President_Trump> gets lots of comments
01:20:00 <Tigger_> Tarryn uses her stinker to hijack planes
01:20:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ clip clop is also a flight attendent
01:20:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ vaness -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gITwepygAF0
01:20:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Young Woman Reveals How She And Her Twin Brother Were Rescued From Abusive Adoptive Parents (Mar 23, 2016) Length: 2:16 - Category: Entertainment - 29,504 views - 228 likes (97.4%), 6 dislikes (2.6%)
01:20:22 <qwerty> crickets on
01:21:00 <Warren1984> when people want food he takes a shit on their table
01:21:00 <Tigger_> with the two ragheads in California, the DailyMail had more info than any other news site I came across
01:21:00 <Tigger_> doesn't look anything like her
01:21:40 <Warren1984> Tigger_ vaness -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gITwepygAF0
01:21:44 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Young Woman Reveals How She And Her Twin Brother Were Rescued From Abusive Adoptive Parents (Mar 23, 2016) Length: 2:16 - Category: Entertainment - 29,504 views - 228 likes (97.4%), 6 dislikes (2.6%)
01:22:00 <qwerty> hi
01:22:15 <Tigger_> doesn't look anything like her
01:23:40 <qwerty> hi
01:24:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ does clip clop give good dessert when he is on the plane
01:24:00 <Warren1984> by emptying his stinker on peoples tables
01:24:00 <Tigger_> 437 comments so far: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513200/Ted-Cruz-dodges-question-s-faithful-wife-endorser-Carly-Fiorina-leaps-insist-declaration-s-not-adulterer-dance-Donald-trump-s-tune.html
01:25:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is trump getting in or what?
01:25:00 <Warren1984> I don't think he will
01:25:00 <Tigger_> why not?
01:25:00 <Warren1984> too many protests against him
01:25:00 <Tigger_> that just shows he's the right guy
01:25:00 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513871/Trump-hits-record-high-new-poll-48-cent-Republicans-backing-White-House-nomination.html
01:25:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
01:26:00 <Warren1984> meaning he is not on good terms with everyone
01:26:00 <Warren1984> doctor when you get your Psychology degree you could specialize in helping gay people with meth/ICE addiction
01:26:00 <Warren1984> I am not saying it in a rude way
01:26:00 <Warren1984> I am just suggesting the idea
01:26:11 <Warren1984> hey doctor
01:27:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if I was in the plane I would king punch the "pretend suicide bomber"
01:27:00 <Warren1984> because I know he is fake
01:27:00 <Warren1984> then I would just walk off the plane
01:27:14 <Warren1984> doctor when you get your Psychology degree you could specialize in helping gay people with meth/ICE addiction
01:27:23 <Warren1984> I am not saying it in a rude way
01:27:31 <Warren1984> I am just suggesting the idea
01:28:00 <Warren1984> sometimes in life you need to take risks
01:28:00 <President_Trump> vallygirl1335, Charlotte, United States, 38 minutes ago
01:28:00 <President_Trump> YES!!! GO TRUMP!!!!
01:28:00 <President_Trump> top rated comment
01:29:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what would you do if you were in that hi-jacked plane?
01:29:00 <Warren1984> Is Trump allowed back in the UK?
01:30:00 <Warren1984> well tig
01:30:00 <Tigger_> he hasn't been banned from the UK, they want to though
01:30:00 <President_Trump> only the vocal minority dont want the lord there
01:31:00 <Tigger_> most English people want him to come there and kill English muslims too
01:31:00 <President_Trump> most brits want to have a pint with trump
01:32:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what would you do if you were in that hi-jacked plane?
01:33:00 <Tigger_> I'd throw the terrorist's salami out the window, so he has nothing to eat
01:34:00 <Tigger_> or specialise in helping gay people become meth/ICE addicts
01:34:00 <Tigger_> chemsex is the new word for today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZLqFHVnaMs
01:34:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: CHEMSEX - Official Trailer (2015) (Oct 22, 2015) Length: 2:09 - Category: Entertainment - 180,967 views - 781 likes (62.3%), 473 dislikes (37.7%)
01:35:00 <Warren1984> why wouldn't you just deck him
01:35:00 <Warren1984> because you know he is faking it
01:35:00 <Warren1984> you could punch him straight in the throat
01:35:00 <Warren1984> elbow to the face
01:35:00 <Warren1984> kick to the knee
01:35:21 <Tigger_> or specialise in helping gay people become meth/ICE addicts
01:35:34 <Tigger_> chemsex is the new word for today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZLqFHVnaMs
01:35:38 <BlackDevil> Youtube: CHEMSEX - Official Trailer (2015) (Oct 22, 2015) Length: 2:09 - Category: Entertainment - 180,967 views - 781 likes (62.3%), 473 dislikes (37.7%)
01:36:00 <Warren1984> grab his hands and knee him in the groin
01:36:00 <Tigger_> how is he going to be a terrorist with no lunch?
01:36:00 <Warren1984> punch him to the back of the neck
01:37:00 <Warren1984> why wouldn't you though his salami into the Jet engine
01:38:00 <Tigger_> might break the engine
01:41:00 <doctor> i could do if there was a demand for it
01:42:00 <erlich> or pretend to recite the Koran in front of him but then pages are really thing, and then you punch his face through it
01:42:00 <erlich> taht's what you do, Warren1984
01:42:00 <IvanTheBastard> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/many-millions-of-muslims-fundamentally-incompatible-with-the-west-says-tony-blair-a6954796.html
01:42:00 <erlich> thin*
01:42:00 <erlich> Tony Blair has said this?
01:42:26 <doctor> i could do if there was a demand for it
01:43:00 <IvanTheBastard> Tony Blair has said that "many millions" of Muslims hold a viewpoint that is "fundamentally incompatible with the modern world."
01:43:00 <erlich> so does that make him less of a pussy than their current 'conservative' leader
01:43:00 <IvanTheBastard> nah he's still a pussy
01:43:00 <IvanTheBastard> upset about invading iraq
01:43:00 <IvanTheBastard> Asked by a CNN interviewer in October 2015 whether he thought the invasion of Iraq was a "principle cause" of the rise of Isis, he said:
01:43:00 <IvanTheBastard> "I think there are elements of truth in that... Of course you can't say that those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.
01:44:00 <IvanTheBastard> he's only really upset about that invasion because George Dubya lied to him about WMDs
01:44:00 <IvanTheBastard> otherwise he was happy to keep his army sharp by shooting up some terrorisms
01:45:00 <miles> hmmm
01:48:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ZTKaMcqCM
01:48:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: KIDS REACT TO DONALD TRUMP (Mar 3, 2016) Length: 9:14 - Category: Entertainment - 7,464,882 views - 150,369 likes (64.5%), 82,626 dislikes (35.5%)
01:49:55 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ZTKaMcqCM
01:49:59 <BlackDevil> Youtube: KIDS REACT TO DONALD TRUMP (Mar 3, 2016) Length: 9:14 - Category: Entertainment - 7,464,882 views - 150,369 likes (64.5%), 82,626 dislikes (35.5%)
01:50:00 <Tigger_> these kids deserve a good hard belting
01:50:00 <President_Trump> the kids LOVE TRUMP
01:51:31 <Tigger_> these kids deserve a good hard belting
01:51:46 <President_Trump> the kids LOVE TRUMP
01:53:00 <President_Trump> those kids are losers
01:54:00 <President_Trump> all the kids spitting back what their pc parents say
01:54:55 <President_Trump> those kids are losers
01:55:00 <Warren1984> [22:43] <@erlich> or pretend to recite the Koran in front of him but then pages are really thing, and then you punch his face through it
01:55:00 <Warren1984> [22:43] <@erlich> taht's what you do, Warren1984 <- lol
01:55:00 <miles> https://soundcloud.com/alisid/dreams
01:55:00 <miles> erlich https://soundcloud.com/alisid/dreams
01:55:26 <President_Trump> all the kids spitting back what their pc parents say
01:56:00 <miles> lols
01:56:00 <Warren1984> you know that Christian's have more to lose than Jews to these attacks in the middle east
01:56:00 <Warren1984> pakistan, Syria etc
01:56:00 <Warren1984> but then that is the Christian's fault for defending the Jews
01:57:00 <Warren1984> 70 dead Christian's in Pakistan
01:58:00 <miles> Tigger_
01:58:00 <miles> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006763722677
01:58:00 <miles> opps
01:58:00 <Warren1984> erlich what are your thoughts?
01:58:00 <miles> https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12901381_1751424665092974_2483188327474118182_o.jpg
01:58:00 <miles> theres proof i recommend by tranc channel
02:00:00 <Warren1984> what have Christian's done to themselves
02:00:00 <Tigger_> deport all the kids to mexico
02:00:00 <President_Trump> the future of the usa looks like a disaster based on those kids
02:01:29 <Tigger_> deport all the kids to mexico
02:01:57 <President_Trump> the future of the usa looks like a disaster based on those kids
02:02:00 <Tigger_> Trump should've come on at the end and said to them "You kids are a mess"
02:02:00 <President_Trump> you kids are a mess, low energy
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02:03:21 <Tigger_> Trump should've come on at the end and said to them "You kids are a mess"
02:03:37 <President_Trump> you kids are a mess, low energy
02:06:00 <miles> it recommends this song now
02:06:00 <miles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzA-K1rs324
02:06:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: soul on fire 2016 new trance australian styles (Feb 19, 2016) Length: 3:06 - Category: Music - 47 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
02:13:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/medical-marijuana-to-become-an-instant-100-million-industry-study-shows/news-story/93bbda2ffb6237b3506a18461598fca6
02:14:00 <Warren1984> AUSTRALIANS are expected to consume as much as 8000kg of medical cannabis worth $100 million in just the first year of being legalised, according to a study by the University of Sydney.
02:15:00 <woolworths> what tests do they want?
02:15:00 <woolworths> why do they need to do their own?
02:15:00 <woolworths> usa has already done them
02:15:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ needs medical cannabis
02:15:00 <Warren1984> so do I
02:15:00 <woolworths> why?
02:16:00 <Warren1984> to ease pain
02:16:00 <woolworths> lol
02:16:00 <woolworths> pain from what?
02:16:00 <Warren1984> mental illness and arthritis
02:17:00 <Tigger_> an article that will interest Warren1984: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515202/Man-reported-police-Sweden-doing-revenge-fart-woman-denied-sex.html
02:18:00 <Warren1984> Medicinal cannabis, already a $250 billion global industry, is expected to help tens of thousands of patients in Australia suffering from medical conditions including epilepsy, cancer, multiple sclerosis and chronic pain.
02:18:00 <woolworths> lol
02:18:00 <woolworths> mental illness
02:18:00 <woolworths> you have cancer do u?
02:18:00 <Warren1984> no
02:18:00 <Warren1984> schizophrenia
02:18:00 <woolworths> you have epilsepsy?
02:18:00 <woolworths> you have multiple sclerosis?
02:18:59 <Tigger_> an article that will interest Warren1984: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515202/Man-reported-police-Sweden-doing-revenge-fart-woman-denied-sex.html
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02:39:00 <screws> Pliv
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03:11:00 <circle> hello lads
03:12:00 <LOOOOOOOOOOOOPYDOGGGGGGGGG> HI
03:20:00 <woolworths> had an old friend his name was david hobbs
03:21:00 <woolworths> heather hobbs
03:21:00 <woolworths> christine hobbs
03:21:00 <woolworths> winfrield hobbs
03:21:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> there is many hobbs
03:21:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> its old english name i think
03:21:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> fuck knows
03:25:00 <woolworths> ^^^^^ off u go pedo
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03:30:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> lol
03:30:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> whats wrong with BlackDevil
03:30:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> first time i ever seen him leave
03:34:00 <woolworths> he's a loser
03:34:00 <woolworths> and top quality pedo
03:34:00 <woolworths> he's basically the king pedo of austnet now days
03:35:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> hes consistent
03:35:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> in his z-lines
03:35:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> for me
03:35:00 <LOOPDOGCUNT> lol
03:37:00 <woolworths> yeh he is
03:37:00 <woolworths> he thinks ur pollock most of the time
03:37:00 <woolworths> and pollock is u
03:37:00 <woolworths> he has no idea
03:37:00 <woolworths> he's a crisping old pedo faggot
03:37:00 <woolworths> like bonny slut
03:37:00 <woolworths> and all of ASD
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04:29:00 <miles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfyVzJ4tE8
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04:30:09 <miles> ...........
04:30:10 <miles> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfyVzJ4tE8
04:30:14 <BlackDevil> Youtube: BUZZING DONE DOES iN 2016 techno music video (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 2:59 - Category: Music - 20 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
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05:03:00 <Marttin> i went to the optic today
05:03:00 <Marttin> im having contact lenses again
05:04:00 <Marttin> for the driving mainly, i cant see the names of all directions on the distance
05:04:44 <Marttin> i went to the optic today
05:04:50 <Marttin> im having contact lenses again
05:05:00 <Marttin> llol, gonna see those kids now, I saw a little girl with his father this afternoon and they actually seemed mexicans
05:05:28 <Marttin> for the driving mainly, i cant see the names of all directions on the distance
05:06:00 <Marttin> but I couldnt listen to them to get the confirmation
05:06:42 <Marttin> llol, gonna see those kids now, I saw a little girl with his father this afternoon and they actually seemed mexicans
05:07:20 <Marttin> but I couldnt listen to them to get the confirmation
05:39:00 <miles> oh
05:40:53 <miles> oh
06:11:00 <Marttin> tisk?
06:12:00 <Marttin> ah yeah
06:12:00 <Marttin> listwning to buzzing
06:12:35 <Marttin> tisk?
06:13:05 <Marttin> ah yeah
06:13:18 <Marttin> listwning to buzzing
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11:33:00 <Warren1984> hi all
11:34:31 <Warren1984> hi all
11:38:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
11:39:40 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
11:50:00 <Warren1984> hey tig
11:50:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ it's hard to get motivated and get the most out of your time
11:51:00 <Tigger_> why is that?
11:51:20 <Warren1984> hey tig
11:51:38 <Warren1984> Tigger_ it's hard to get motivated and get the most out of your time
11:52:00 <Warren1984> just don't feel motivate
11:52:00 <Warren1984> motivated
11:52:00 <miles> Tigger_
11:52:00 <miles> mops are expensive
11:52:37 <Tigger_> why is that?
11:53:00 <Tigger_> how expensive are mops?
11:53:00 <miles> 20$ and 9$ for 2 replacement heds
11:53:31 <Warren1984> just don't feel motivate
11:53:33 <Warren1984> motivated
11:53:40 <miles> Tigger_
11:53:48 <miles> mops are expensive
11:54:00 <miles> i got the replacement ones so dont have look later
11:54:00 <Tigger_> I guess that is pricey
11:54:06 <Tigger_> how expensive are mops?
11:54:46 <miles> 20$ and 9$ for 2 replacement heds
11:55:00 <miles> new litter tray is 7$
11:55:00 <miles> fuck
11:55:00 <Warren1984> Procrastination -> Pick interesting paper assignment to avoid boredom. -> Learn what motivates you.
11:55:13 <miles> i got the replacement ones so dont have look later
11:55:54 <Tigger_> I guess that is pricey
11:56:00 <Warren1984> what motivates me?
11:56:38 <miles> new litter tray is 7$
11:56:44 <miles> fuck
11:56:55 <Warren1984> Procrastination -> Pick interesting paper assignment to avoid boredom. -> Learn what motivates you.
11:57:17 <Warren1984> what motivates me?
12:01:00 <Tigger_> what rewards do you respond to?
12:02:18 <Tigger_> what rewards do you respond to?
12:03:00 <Warren1984> who me Tigger_?
12:03:00 <Tigger_> yes
12:04:00 <Warren1984> theories
12:04:00 <Warren1984> prove and disproving them
12:04:00 <Warren1984> proving
12:04:00 <Warren1984> making logical explanations
12:04:13 <Warren1984> who me Tigger_?
12:04:24 <Tigger_> yes
12:05:16 <Warren1984> theories
12:05:26 <Warren1984> prove and disproving them
12:05:29 <Warren1984> proving
12:05:45 <Warren1984> making logical explanations
12:07:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> They see everything in terms of how it could be improved, or what it could be turned into
12:07:00 <Warren1984> what do they mean what it could be turned into?
12:07:00 <Warren1984> turned into a goal?
12:08:33 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> They see everything in terms of how it could be improved, or what it could be turned into
12:08:46 <Warren1984> what do they mean what it could be turned into?
12:08:58 <Warren1984> turned into a goal?
12:09:00 <Tigger_> you could set a goal of having $50,000 saved
12:10:31 <Tigger_> you could set a goal of having $50,000 saved
12:12:00 <Warren1984> that is a good idea
12:12:00 <Warren1984> then like you said spend whatever you have above $50K
12:13:45 <Warren1984> that is a good idea
12:14:02 <Warren1984> then like you said spend whatever you have above $50K
12:15:00 <Warren1984> Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says women who have abortions ‘should be punished’
12:16:00 <Tigger_> I like his style
12:16:18 <Warren1984> Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says women who have abortions ‘should be punished’
12:17:00 <Tigger_> they could be punished by having horses stampede over them
12:17:39 <Tigger_> I like his style
12:18:13 <Tigger_> they could be punished by having horses stampede over them
12:25:00 <abortion> Warren1984: For myself, I find being at home is one of the best ways to kill my motivation
12:26:00 <Tigger_> set aside a room for working on projects
12:26:00 <abortion> even that is a bit too convenient, and you need a room for that
12:26:43 <abortion> Warren1984: For myself, I find being at home is one of the best ways to kill my motivation
12:27:00 <abortion> I do remember one person set up a caravan as an office
12:27:00 <Tigger_> how did that work out?
12:27:00 <abortion> For him, pretty well apparently
12:27:00 <miles> made a song
12:27:00 <miles> lols
12:27:00 <abortion> I guess crossing through the outside is enough of an environment change
12:27:00 <Tigger_> chris is hugely motivated to write new music, and he's at home all the time
12:27:46 <Tigger_> set aside a room for working on projects
12:28:00 <abortion> That's why I said, for me
12:28:00 <abortion> I found when I was on the bus, I was actually programming stuff, which I barely do at home
12:28:00 <Tigger_> you can code on the bus?
12:28:00 <abortion> One idea I had, which I might still do, is get a large van and turn it into a portable office (in place of a caravan
12:28:00 <abortion> Sure
12:28:01 <abortion> even that is a bit too convenient, and you need a room for that
12:28:22 <abortion> I do remember one person set up a caravan as an office
12:28:29 <Tigger_> how did that work out?
12:28:35 <abortion> For him, pretty well apparently
12:28:36 <miles> made a song
12:28:38 <miles> lols
12:28:52 <abortion> I guess crossing through the outside is enough of an environment change
12:28:54 <Tigger_> chris is hugely motivated to write new music, and he's at home all the time
12:29:00 <abortion> My laptop has a nice keyboard
12:29:00 <Tigger_> I get instant motion sickness if I try to even read text while on a moving vehicle
12:29:00 <abortion> I reckon I might type faster on this one than any of my other keyboards
12:29:00 <abortion> ah yeah, I don't really get motion sickness
12:29:00 <abortion> Sorry to hear that
12:29:15 <abortion> That's why I said, for me
12:29:23 <abortion> I found when I was on the bus, I was actually programming stuff, which I barely do at home
12:29:34 <Tigger_> you can code on the bus?
12:29:46 <abortion> One idea I had, which I might still do, is get a large van and turn it into a portable office (in place of a caravan
12:29:51 <abortion> Sure
12:30:00 <Tigger_> though I did meet a fellow who wrote several big stupid fantasy novels while on his daily train commute, two or more hours each day
12:30:00 <abortion> its the one advantage public transport has over driving
12:30:00 <abortion> You can actually do other things when you're not the driver
12:30:00 <abortion> Further the time is sunk, so there are only a few things you can do
12:30:04 <abortion> My laptop has a nice keyboard
12:30:21 <Tigger_> I get instant motion sickness if I try to even read text while on a moving vehicle
12:30:24 <abortion> I reckon I might type faster on this one than any of my other keyboards
12:30:30 <abortion> ah yeah, I don't really get motion sickness
12:30:36 <abortion> Sorry to hear that
12:31:00 <Tigger_> the train would be a bit easier, since there aren't any sharp turns, that make by brain fluid slosh about
12:31:00 <abortion> If you have a train line, sure
12:31:00 <abortion> trains are just better anyway, dedicated line means they aren't subject to variable traffic
12:31:17 <Tigger_> though I did meet a fellow who wrote several big stupid fantasy novels while on his daily train commute, two or more hours each day
12:31:37 <abortion> its the one advantage public transport has over driving
12:31:46 <abortion> You can actually do other things when you're not the driver
12:31:59 <abortion> Further the time is sunk, so there are only a few things you can do
12:32:00 <Tigger_> and smoother
12:32:00 <abortion> Once we have driverless cars in greater rotation, we'll get the best of both worlds
12:32:12 <Tigger_> the train would be a bit easier, since there aren't any sharp turns, that make by brain fluid slosh about
12:32:31 <abortion> If you have a train line, sure
12:32:56 <abortion> trains are just better anyway, dedicated line means they aren't subject to variable traffic
12:33:00 <abortion> well smoothness aside
12:33:00 <Tigger_> that's something I've thought about
12:33:08 <Tigger_> and smoother
12:33:52 <abortion> Once we have driverless cars in greater rotation, we'll get the best of both worlds
12:34:00 <Tigger_> it'll change settlement patterns, people will be able to live further afield, the way the original suburbia evolved as a response to general car ownership
12:34:02 <abortion> well smoothness aside
12:34:05 <Tigger_> that's something I've thought about
12:35:00 <Tigger_> as well as extend the reach of criminality
12:35:00 <miles> ..................
12:35:00 <miles> https://youtu.be/IKIu6va2H7w
12:35:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DREAM ITZ MIX 2016 HARD TRANCE MUSIC (Mar 30, 2016) Length: 5:27 - Category: Music - 1 view views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
12:35:53 <Tigger_> it'll change settlement patterns, people will be able to live further afield, the way the original suburbia evolved as a response to general car ownership
12:36:34 <Tigger_> as well as extend the reach of criminality
12:36:35 <miles> ..................
12:36:37 <miles> https://youtu.be/IKIu6va2H7w
12:36:40 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DREAM ITZ MIX 2016 HARD TRANCE MUSIC (Mar 30, 2016) Length: 5:27 - Category: Music - 1 view views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
12:38:00 <Tigger_> actually another way to increase motivation at home is to take the laptop to bed, it works for some
12:39:25 <Tigger_> actually another way to increase motivation at home is to take the laptop to bed, it works for some
12:48:00 <Warren1984> good thing to help stop procrastination, is to give yourself a short amount of time i.e. 30 mins to just get stuck into a project
12:49:50 <Warren1984> good thing to help stop procrastination, is to give yourself a short amount of time i.e. 30 mins to just get stuck into a project
12:58:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you think the reason I have difficulty sustaining attention causes me to be obsessive
12:59:00 <Warren1984> Avoids or dislikes tasks requiring sustained mental effort
12:59:00 <Tigger_> I don't know
12:59:00 <Warren1984> tasks such as paying attention to the channel #pd
12:59:58 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you think the reason I have difficulty sustaining attention causes me to be obsessive
13:00:18 <Warren1984> Avoids or dislikes tasks requiring sustained mental effort
13:00:28 <Tigger_> I don't know
13:00:34 <Warren1984> tasks such as paying attention to the channel #pd
13:14:00 <Tigger_> http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/what-kind-of-metalhead-are-you
13:15:00 <Tigger_> abortion, which one are you?
13:15:59 <Tigger_> http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/what-kind-of-metalhead-are-you
13:16:16 <Tigger_> abortion, which one are you?
13:20:00 <miles> hi
13:20:36 Join: findow ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
13:21:00 <miles> im so thankful im sober
13:22:02 <miles> hi
13:22:24 <miles> im so thankful im sober
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13:32:00 <abortion> If I had to pick one of those, closest is Power Metaller
13:33:00 <abortion> Second, Folk metaller
13:33:00 <miles> who wants to hug
13:33:00 <miles> this is boring
13:33:00 <Tigger_> miles, where's Sockzie?
13:33:23 <abortion> If I had to pick one of those, closest is Power Metaller
13:34:00 <abortion> Also the "Gay, No you're just jealous my fav bands know how to sing"
13:34:00 <Tigger_> how do you feel being a type?
13:34:18 <abortion> Second, Folk metaller
13:34:32 <miles> who wants to hug
13:34:39 <miles> this is boring
13:34:57 <Tigger_> miles, where's Sockzie?
13:35:00 <abortion> I don't match all the descriptions, but none of them I find particularly against my grain, so its fine
13:35:00 <abortion> (for Power Metaller that is)
13:35:09 <abortion> Also the "Gay, No you're just jealous my fav bands know how to sing"
13:35:24 <Tigger_> how do you feel being a type?
13:36:00 <Tigger_> I was quite surprised that a reasonable number of things that I did without thinking were actually SWPL
13:36:00 <abortion> SWPL?
13:36:00 <Tigger_> Stuff White People Love
13:36:00 <Warren1984> smiles for miles
13:36:09 <abortion> I don't match all the descriptions, but none of them I find particularly against my grain, so its fine
13:36:36 <abortion> (for Power Metaller that is)
13:37:00 <abortion> where's that?
13:37:00 <Warren1984> that is the name of the dentist next door in the shopping centre
13:37:00 <Warren1984> abortion trump wants to punish you
13:37:00 <Tigger_> like, rather than love
13:37:00 <Tigger_> http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/
13:37:00 <abortion> lol "That Fat Fuck with the Pantera shirt on"
13:37:00 <Tigger_> are they common?
13:37:14 <Tigger_> I was quite surprised that a reasonable number of things that I did without thinking were actually SWPL
13:37:38 <abortion> SWPL?
13:37:45 <Tigger_> Stuff White People Love
13:37:58 <Warren1984> smiles for miles
13:38:00 <abortion> no idea
13:38:00 <abortion> one thing I don't go is go to concerts
13:38:14 <abortion> where's that?
13:38:16 <Warren1984> that is the name of the dentist next door in the shopping centre
13:38:28 <Warren1984> abortion trump wants to punish you
13:38:41 <Tigger_> like, rather than love
13:38:43 <Tigger_> http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/
13:38:50 <abortion> lol "That Fat Fuck with the Pantera shirt on"
13:39:00 <abortion> Warren1984: Oh? Do tell.
13:39:01 <Tigger_> are they common?
13:39:32 <abortion> no idea
13:39:39 <abortion> one thing I don't go is go to concerts
13:40:00 <Tigger_> Trump's recent announcement that women who have abortions should be punished
13:40:00 <Tigger_> though he was not specific about the details of the punishment
13:40:40 <abortion> Warren1984: Oh? Do tell.
13:41:00 <abortion> sounds like lipservice
13:41:08 <Tigger_> Trump's recent announcement that women who have abortions should be punished
13:41:24 <Tigger_> though he was not specific about the details of the punishment
13:42:00 <abortion> At this stage it does look like there is a strong chance of Trump being elected imo, but will he really keep every one of his promises? Seems like a stretch
13:42:38 <abortion> sounds like lipservice
13:43:00 <Tigger_> this wasn't a declaration of policy, more just voicing a preference
13:43:26 <abortion> At this stage it does look like there is a strong chance of Trump being elected imo, but will he really keep every one of his promises? Seems like a stretch
13:44:00 <abortion> I'd apply it to any policy he says
13:44:04 <Tigger_> this wasn't a declaration of policy, more just voicing a preference
13:45:30 * abortion shrugs
13:45:40 <abortion> I'd apply it to any policy he says
13:47:00 <Tigger_> even when abortion was illegal, I don't think there was ever prison time for the women
13:47:00 <Tigger_> but he is certainly going to build the wall and deport the illegals, he has said this every chance he gets
13:47:00 <abortion> Even that I wouldn't rate a certain chance
13:48:00 <abortion> reality and politics don't go hand in hand
13:48:00 <abortion> a chance grade of "certainty"
13:48:10 <Tigger_> even when abortion was illegal, I don't think there was ever prison time for the women
13:48:37 <Tigger_> but he is certainly going to build the wall and deport the illegals, he has said this every chance he gets
13:48:54 <abortion> Even that I wouldn't rate a certain chance
13:49:04 <abortion> reality and politics don't go hand in hand
13:49:16 <abortion> a chance grade of "certainty"
13:50:00 <Tigger_> I would rate it a certainty, since that is the entire foundation of his campaign. and his entire public persona as president is tied to that
13:50:00 <abortion> So?
13:51:00 <abortion> Political parties can have a central platform they don't comply to in office
13:51:00 <abortion> or compromise in some way
13:51:30 <Tigger_> I would rate it a certainty, since that is the entire foundation of his campaign. and his entire public persona as president is tied to that
13:51:50 <abortion> So?
13:52:00 <Tigger_> I just can't see him backing down, given his personality. also he's not really a politician, he has not spent a lifetime trading away his ideals as a politician is compelled to do
13:52:00 <abortion> His personality being what exactly?
13:52:13 <abortion> Political parties can have a central platform they don't comply to in office
13:52:26 <abortion> or compromise in some way
13:53:00 <abortion> The reality may still prevent him completing his objectives despite how strong his will is
13:53:00 <abortion> The nature of the reality are complex
13:53:00 <Tigger_> what is going to stop him? it's just a wall
13:53:09 <Tigger_> I just can't see him backing down, given his personality. also he's not really a politician, he has not spent a lifetime trading away his ideals as a politician is compelled to do
13:53:28 <abortion> His personality being what exactly?
13:54:00 <abortion> Between being unable to secure funding and a possible impeachment, there is plenty of space for it to not happen
13:54:00 <Tigger_> it's only estimated to cost about $12 billion, and impeachments are very rare
13:54:03 <abortion> The reality may still prevent him completing his objectives despite how strong his will is
13:54:15 <abortion> The nature of the reality are complex
13:54:35 <Tigger_> what is going to stop him? it's just a wall
13:55:00 <abortion> yeah, just like the coalitions NBN was estimated to not cost anywhere near $40 billion or whatever
13:55:00 <abortion> If the political elite get sufficiently irritated by him, they may cook up an impeachment, doesn't matter how rare it is.
13:55:09 <abortion> Between being unable to secure funding and a possible impeachment, there is plenty of space for it to not happen
13:55:52 <Tigger_> it's only estimated to cost about $12 billion, and impeachments are very rare
13:56:00 <Tigger_> Trump is a builder, so his estimations are probably better than most
13:56:00 <abortion> Assuming he is telling the truth. Not all his businesses have succeeded
13:56:00 <abortion> Businesspeople tend to be eternally optimistic too
13:56:00 <Tigger_> well there have only been two impeachments in US history, neither successful
13:56:25 <abortion> yeah, just like the coalitions NBN was estimated to not cost anywhere near $40 billion or whatever
13:56:55 <abortion> If the political elite get sufficiently irritated by him, they may cook up an impeachment, doesn't matter how rare it is.
13:57:00 <abortion> history is there to be written. The point about them not being successful is a bigger deal
13:57:00 <abortion> $12 billion is still a lot of money, even by the US standard
13:57:08 <Tigger_> Trump is a builder, so his estimations are probably better than most
13:57:40 <abortion> Assuming he is telling the truth. Not all his businesses have succeeded
13:57:52 <abortion> Businesspeople tend to be eternally optimistic too
13:57:56 <Tigger_> well there have only been two impeachments in US history, neither successful
13:58:00 <Tigger_> he insists Mexico is going to pay for it, we shall see, he has a lot of bargaining chips
13:58:00 <abortion> He claims to, it is of course politically advantageous to say you have a good hand
13:58:00 <Tigger_> he can tear up NAFTA if they won't pay
13:58:20 <abortion> history is there to be written. The point about them not being successful is a bigger deal
13:58:36 <abortion> $12 billion is still a lot of money, even by the US standard
13:59:00 <abortion> Yes I know
13:59:00 <abortion> But what if lobbies on the US side don't want it? He can ignore them, sure. Then what?
13:59:00 <Tigger_> and it may be a pretext to abolish NAFTA
13:59:00 <Tigger_> they could always shoot him
13:59:19 <Tigger_> he insists Mexico is going to pay for it, we shall see, he has a lot of bargaining chips
13:59:36 <abortion> He claims to, it is of course politically advantageous to say you have a good hand
13:59:48 <Tigger_> he can tear up NAFTA if they won't pay
14:00:00 <abortion> Not many organisations are dumb enough to do that, this is how you make martyrs
14:00:00 <abortion> I'm sure they have a lot more power than that
14:00:06 <abortion> Yes I know
14:00:39 <abortion> But what if lobbies on the US side don't want it? He can ignore them, sure. Then what?
14:00:40 <Tigger_> and it may be a pretext to abolish NAFTA
14:00:52 <Tigger_> they could always shoot him
14:01:00 <abortion> assassination is something that people who are powerless try
14:01:00 <Tigger_> in the west, at least
14:01:15 <abortion> Not many organisations are dumb enough to do that, this is how you make martyrs
14:02:00 <abortion> True. The context is relevant here though
14:02:01 <abortion> I'm sure they have a lot more power than that
14:02:10 <abortion> assassination is something that people who are powerless try
14:02:54 <Tigger_> in the west, at least
14:03:00 <Tigger_> but as he's not beholden to any lobby, and assassination is unlikely, there isn't very much that special interests can do besides generate negative publicity
14:03:22 <abortion> True. The context is relevant here though
14:04:00 <abortion> I was thinking, he has a business to lose, I imagine they would pull strings to have his assets steadily whittled away
14:04:39 <Tigger_> but as he's not beholden to any lobby, and assassination is unlikely, there isn't very much that special interests can do besides generate negative publicity
14:05:00 <abortion> For all I know, the same has happened to Turnbull
14:05:14 <abortion> I was thinking, he has a business to lose, I imagine they would pull strings to have his assets steadily whittled away
14:06:00 <Tigger_> he's handing that over to his children, they might do that themselves
14:06:00 <abortion> or the threat rather
14:06:00 <Tigger_> Turnbull has a lot of investments and capital, I'm not aware of any ongoing business
14:06:50 <abortion> For all I know, the same has happened to Turnbull
14:07:00 <abortion> I don't think that matters, they could threaten to make his childrens lives difficult
14:07:00 <abortion> It is my view that right in the upper echelons, there is that kind of mafia type behaviour, they just stop short of actual murder
14:07:00 <Tigger_> any examples?
14:07:00 <abortion> No
14:07:04 <Tigger_> he's handing that over to his children, they might do that themselves
14:07:27 <abortion> or the threat rather
14:07:42 <Tigger_> Turnbull has a lot of investments and capital, I'm not aware of any ongoing business
14:08:00 <abortion> If I were to ever say something were my intuition, that'd be it
14:08:03 <abortion> I don't think that matters, they could threaten to make his childrens lives difficult
14:08:27 <abortion> It is my view that right in the upper echelons, there is that kind of mafia type behaviour, they just stop short of actual murder
14:08:41 <Tigger_> any examples?
14:08:44 <abortion> No
14:09:00 <abortion> I have no data to support it directly
14:09:03 <abortion> If I were to ever say something were my intuition, that'd be it
14:10:00 <abortion> only that, like cartels, they collectively have an interest in ensuring that no individual breaks rank
14:10:00 <abortion> In this, it is somewhat suprising that the arab world was able to break rank from OPEC
14:10:33 <abortion> I have no data to support it directly
14:11:00 <abortion> thus leading to much reduced oil prices
14:11:00 <Tigger_> for the average politician they have very little else going but their career, and they've invested years into climbing to their present position, and in modern democracies the political legacy is often carried on by their children, so they are very easily controlled by all sorts of levers. but I can't see how there could be any systemic responses to a wealthy outsider, they just haven't experienced that before
14:11:03 <abortion> only that, like cartels, they collectively have an interest in ensuring that no individual breaks rank
14:11:50 <abortion> In this, it is somewhat suprising that the arab world was able to break rank from OPEC
14:12:00 <abortion> You're saying that they're not adaptable?
14:12:00 <Tigger_> it would take years to evolve strategies
14:12:03 <abortion> thus leading to much reduced oil prices
14:12:50 <Tigger_> for the average politician they have very little else going but their career, and they've invested years into climbing to their present position, and in modern democracies the political legacy is often carried on by their children, so they are very easily controlled by all sorts of levers. but I can't see how there could be any systemic responses to a wealthy outsider, they just haven't experienced that before
14:13:00 <Tigger_> that's why the GOP is hopelessly flailing about right now
14:13:00 <abortion> years they have. The wall isn't going to spring up the moment he is in office
14:13:23 <abortion> You're saying that they're not adaptable?
14:13:46 <Tigger_> it would take years to evolve strategies
14:14:00 <Tigger_> also it's only a power network, that network can be countered by a network of Trump's own making
14:14:00 <abortion> The bigger one being?
14:14:07 <Tigger_> that's why the GOP is hopelessly flailing about right now
14:14:25 <abortion> years they have. The wall isn't going to spring up the moment he is in office
14:15:40 <Tigger_> also it's only a power network, that network can be countered by a network of Trump's own making
14:16:00 <Tigger_> it wouldn't be bigger to begin with, but he has plenty of supporters within the party that can coalesce around him to counter the neocons, legacy Bush supporters, etc.
14:16:00 <abortion> My sense is that bigger and older, rousing the sleeping giants etc
14:16:00 <Tigger_> it'll be interesting to see
14:16:01 <abortion> The bigger one being?
14:17:00 <abortion> Really, the uncertainty there is enough for me to say why I would not rate the wall as certain, not that I rate it as zero chance
14:17:16 <Tigger_> it wouldn't be bigger to begin with, but he has plenty of supporters within the party that can coalesce around him to counter the neocons, legacy Bush supporters, etc.
14:17:50 <abortion> My sense is that bigger and older, rousing the sleeping giants etc
14:18:00 <Tigger_> it'll be interesting to see
14:18:32 <abortion> Really, the uncertainty there is enough for me to say why I would not rate the wall as certain, not that I rate it as zero chance
14:19:00 <Tigger_> also amongst younger Republican career politicians, they're going to have to eventually face the reality that there are few prospective Republican voters crossing the border, and unless they want the US to have a permanent Democrat ruling majority, they're going to have to act in their self interest
14:19:00 <abortion> who says that will actually happen
14:20:00 <Tigger_> the permanent Democrat ruling majority? I do
14:20:27 <Tigger_> also amongst younger Republican career politicians, they're going to have to eventually face the reality that there are few prospective Republican voters crossing the border, and unless they want the US to have a permanent Democrat ruling majority, they're going to have to act in their self interest
14:21:00 <abortion> who says that will actually happen
14:21:00 <abortion> There has already been a push towards conservatism generally, labor here has moved well in the direction of the right
14:21:00 <abortion> the greens are only slightly left of where labor used to be
14:21:00 <Tigger_> that is often said, but I dispute that, the opposite can be very easily argued
14:21:39 <Tigger_> the permanent Democrat ruling majority? I do
14:22:00 <abortion> The fact that inequality has been rising should demonstrate this adequately
14:22:00 <abortion> anyone who actually calls themselves a lefty would not let that abide
14:22:05 <abortion> There has already been a push towards conservatism generally, labor here has moved well in the direction of the right
14:22:17 <abortion> the greens are only slightly left of where labor used to be
14:22:43 <Tigger_> that is often said, but I dispute that, the opposite can be very easily argued
14:23:00 <Tigger_> the left are the critics of inequality while being the facilitators of inequality
14:23:25 <abortion> The fact that inequality has been rising should demonstrate this adequately
14:23:46 <abortion> anyone who actually calls themselves a lefty would not let that abide
14:24:00 <Tigger_> and the modern left does not advocate for the working class anymore, it advocates for the managerial class
14:24:26 <Tigger_> the left are the critics of inequality while being the facilitators of inequality
14:25:00 <abortion> The former I agree with, I don't see how the latter works
14:25:00 <abortion> The main reason they don't advocate the working class anymore is because the working class has been diminishing in positions
14:25:26 <Tigger_> and the modern left does not advocate for the working class anymore, it advocates for the managerial class
14:26:00 <Tigger_> the classic political dichotomy was of the left (workers) versus right (capital), but there is really a third pole, that of the managerial class, which is all of the public service, and a large subset of major corporations
14:26:17 <abortion> The former I agree with, I don't see how the latter works
14:26:44 <abortion> The main reason they don't advocate the working class anymore is because the working class has been diminishing in positions
14:27:25 <Tigger_> the classic political dichotomy was of the left (workers) versus right (capital), but there is really a third pole, that of the managerial class, which is all of the public service, and a large subset of major corporations
14:29:00 <Tigger_> the managerial class needs things to manage, hence their reflexive attraction to Keynesian economics, social programs for the disadvantaged, and even better if there are more disadvantaged
14:29:00 <miles> fuck
14:30:00 <Tigger_> the NBN was a major victory for the managerial mindset too
14:30:10 <Tigger_> the managerial class needs things to manage, hence their reflexive attraction to Keynesian economics, social programs for the disadvantaged, and even better if there are more disadvantaged
14:30:38 <miles> fuck
14:31:47 <Tigger_> the NBN was a major victory for the managerial mindset too
14:46:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/us-pentagon-will-deploy-extra-4500-troops-to-eastern-europe-amid-fears-over-russian-aggression/news-story/70f15929006ad88491b7a688aab5ba35
14:47:58 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/us-pentagon-will-deploy-extra-4500-troops-to-eastern-europe-amid-fears-over-russian-aggression/news-story/70f15929006ad88491b7a688aab5ba35
14:52:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ my Dad said he wonders if I would be too old to start studying Psychology
14:53:00 <Warren1984> If you earn under $45K a year you don't need to pay for it
14:53:47 <Warren1984> Tigger_ my Dad said he wonders if I would be too old to start studying Psychology
14:54:07 <Warren1984> If you earn under $45K a year you don't need to pay for it
14:57:00 <abortion> The NBN is a real sore point for me. The technology mix is a massive disaster. MBA "cost cutting" thinking that doesn't actually cut costs because they didn't think it through
14:58:40 <abortion> The NBN is a real sore point for me. The technology mix is a massive disaster. MBA "cost cutting" thinking that doesn't actually cut costs because they didn't think it through
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15:29:00 <miles> wheres a real woman
15:30:00 <miles> fucken dont tease me
15:30:00 <miles> fuck
15:30:00 <miles> im depression
15:30:00 <miles> you should all think about what you done
15:30:00 <miles> and have a fucken heart
15:30:00 <abortion> Uh what
15:30:00 <abortion> hang on a sec
15:30:38 <miles> wheres a real woman
15:31:00 <abortion> we can't help we aren't women
15:31:00 <abortion> that's not our fault
15:31:06 <miles> fucken dont tease me
15:31:16 <miles> fuck
15:31:23 <miles> im depression
15:31:45 <miles> you should all think about what you done
15:31:55 <miles> and have a fucken heart
15:31:58 <abortion> Uh what
15:32:00 <abortion> hang on a sec
15:32:04 <abortion> we can't help we aren't women
15:32:08 <abortion> that's not our fault
15:50:00 <Tigger_> while the NBA cost cutting may not be successful, or it may be, the original NBN plan would likely have had its own cost blowouts, speed of deployment is another issue, and the Coalition's plan should see faster deployment
15:51:38 <Tigger_> while the NBA cost cutting may not be successful, or it may be, the original NBN plan would likely have had its own cost blowouts, speed of deployment is another issue, and the Coalition's plan should see faster deployment
15:55:00 <abortion> I disagree. The technology mix prevents standardisation of practice, and requires contegiencies for low quality copper
15:56:00 <abortion> Greater administrative overhead
15:57:00 <abortion> Not to mention not remotely futureproof
15:57:01 <abortion> I disagree. The technology mix prevents standardisation of practice, and requires contegiencies for low quality copper
15:57:20 <abortion> Greater administrative overhead
15:58:00 <abortion> even if one tihng can be upgraded again, other technology systems will not be
15:58:00 <abortion> It's an engineering nightmare
15:58:44 <abortion> Not to mention not remotely futureproof
15:59:13 <abortion> even if one tihng can be upgraded again, other technology systems will not be
15:59:23 <abortion> It's an engineering nightmare
16:00:00 <abortion> Fibre is a well proven technology, nowhere near as subject to environmental conditions as copper is
16:01:48 <abortion> Fibre is a well proven technology, nowhere near as subject to environmental conditions as copper is
16:02:00 <abortion> The mixed tech NBN model, to my understanding, has a guarantee of performance (25mbit/s iirc) which is much higher than the one Telstra used to be bound by (1.5mbit/s), callouts to make it meet standards will increase, and will recur
16:03:00 <abortion> in conclusion, I am of the opinion that the TCO of using copper will be greater than if we'd just stuck with the damn fibre
16:03:00 <Tigger_> but what about deployment speed?
16:03:08 <abortion> The mixed tech NBN model, to my understanding, has a guarantee of performance (25mbit/s iirc) which is much higher than the one Telstra used to be bound by (1.5mbit/s), callouts to make it meet standards will increase, and will recur
16:04:22 <abortion> in conclusion, I am of the opinion that the TCO of using copper will be greater than if we'd just stuck with the damn fibre
16:04:54 <Tigger_> but what about deployment speed?
16:05:00 <abortion> What about it? a couple of years slower perhaps, meanwhile we will be far better setup for future use for much longer and won't have to go through the same rigmarole for a time long. Sure that's fine for people who are already serviced, but there will be people who would have been waiting the same either way
16:05:00 <Tigger_> I should have NBN now, but they can't install it because my garage has no man-hole access to pass the line through to the main part of the house. so I personally would have had it faster if I was in a fibre to the node area, not to mention the cost I'm going to incur by having a carpenter install a man hole
16:06:00 <abortion> That wouldn't bother me
16:06:00 <abortion> the quality of the fibre link is so much better, its not a couple of percent, it is many multiples better
16:06:00 <Tigger_> it doesn't really bother me, but I'm sure my case is repeated many thousands of times across the country
16:06:00 <abortion> Patience is a virtue, right
16:06:13 <abortion> What about it? a couple of years slower perhaps, meanwhile we will be far better setup for future use for much longer and won't have to go through the same rigmarole for a time long. Sure that's fine for people who are already serviced, but there will be people who would have been waiting the same either way
16:06:48 <Tigger_> I should have NBN now, but they can't install it because my garage has no man-hole access to pass the line through to the main part of the house. so I personally would have had it faster if I was in a fibre to the node area, not to mention the cost I'm going to incur by having a carpenter install a man hole
16:07:00 <Tigger_> ideally the NBN shouldn't be built at all, but too late for that
16:07:04 <abortion> That wouldn't bother me
16:07:26 <abortion> the quality of the fibre link is so much better, its not a couple of percent, it is many multiples better
16:07:33 <Tigger_> it doesn't really bother me, but I'm sure my case is repeated many thousands of times across the country
16:07:40 <abortion> Patience is a virtue, right
16:08:12 <Tigger_> ideally the NBN shouldn't be built at all, but too late for that
16:08:48 <abortion> Ideally it should have been built with proper fibre links, not GPON, but this compromise is not worth the money full stop
16:09:02 <abortion> (we're not even getting gpon btw)
16:09:17 <abortion> well some people might, but not the original 93%
16:09:39 <abortion> more like 15% and new housing developments (% value is a guess)
16:09:43 <Tigger_> Telstra was going to build it themselves many years ago, but the ACCC got their finger wagging finger stuck in it, and declared that if they did not open it to competition, it can't proceed at all, so now it's the burden of the taxpayer
16:10:19 <abortion> If it was to stay a public utility, I would be OK with that (noting that I am a taxpayer)
16:10:30 <abortion> but chances are, some tool would come along and go "PRIVATISE"
16:10:39 <abortion> meaning that taxpayers would subsidise some company
16:11:04 <Tigger_> privatisation is so that the Liberal party can get donations too, not just the Labor party
16:11:33 <abortion> political donations are dangerous anyway
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16:12:10 <Tigger_> a public utility funnels money to the Labor party through its unions, there is no counterveiling interest to donate to the Liberal party, but when it's privatised then the new owners can donate to the Liberal party
16:12:26 <abortion> they take away the voice from the people, thus subverting democracy, for what it is worth (because its not perfect anyway)
16:12:39 <abortion> Unions shouldn't be funneling money in either
16:13:05 <Tigger_> Trump accepts no corporate donations, only small donations from private citizens
16:13:39 <abortion> that much is pretty cool
16:14:01 <abortion> His own personal wealth would count towards donations, but indications are he doesn't really use much there either
16:14:04 <Tigger_> but anyway, that's the reality on the ground, easier to privatise than stop political donations
16:14:31 <abortion> I would point to all the mains bursts here in Adelaide as symbolic of privatisation
16:16:52 <abortion> Hmm yes political reality
16:17:39 <abortion> funny that was the argument I was making about trump and the wall.
16:17:58 <Tigger_> and the reason why privatisation often doesn't work is that it's simply just turning a public monopoly into a private monopoly, with the govt as the insurer
16:18:12 <abortion> True
16:18:45 <abortion> The question is, would competition actually help, or would the replication of infrastructure result in net greater costs
16:19:09 <abortion> Monopolies do form spontaneously
16:19:15 <abortion> ie Intel
16:19:40 <abortion> they've had relatively little regulatory intervention in their favour, but have come out ahead and continue to be
16:20:30 <abortion> Semiconductor companies outside of the mass processing space have also been consolidating
16:20:31 <Tigger_> well the reason why it was a public monopoly in the first place was due to fabian socialist ideology of slow transition to socialism, though that ideology was abandoned, it was later replaced with the notion of 'natural monopoly', though no such thing has ever been shown to exist when a true free market prevailed
16:21:05 <abortion> A true free market requires perfect information
16:21:08 <Tigger_> if AMD didn't exist then Intel would be a very different company today, with much higher prices
16:21:19 <abortion> They are with much higher prices now
16:21:48 <abortion> they've been closing the gaps in their bang for buck so the processing you get with the current generation is highly correlated with how much you pay for it
16:21:49 <Tigger_> add a zero or two, in an all Intel world
16:22:17 <abortion> Patents prevent the use of information, and trade secrets are going to exist
16:22:20 <Tigger_> though Intel is competing against ARM now too
16:22:39 <abortion> we aren't talking about agriculture where everyone is growing perfect substitutes for one another
16:23:29 <Tigger_> in this area I wouldn't be too concerned about Intel so much, as products that have strong network multiplier effects, like MS Office and facebook
16:24:05 <abortion> What regulation has been there to give them an edge?
16:24:22 <Tigger_> most software is written to be platform agnostic, so the CPU isn't inherently locked down
16:24:43 <Tigger_> in the case of MS Office, govt depts and educational institutions being major purchasers
16:24:58 <abortion> Facebook?
16:25:38 <Tigger_> nothing much in the case of facebook, I argue against facebook for different reasons
16:25:57 <abortion> Thus it is a natural monopoly, they even had competition from MySpace before they took over
16:26:55 <Tigger_> if it became mandatory to have a facebook account, not too outlandish, then it would be a state backed monopoly
16:27:01 <abortion> but it is not
16:27:17 <abortion> so it is a natural, free market bourne monopoly
16:28:01 <abortion> even with the might of Google behind it, G+ hasn't really managed to make a difference
16:28:22 <Tigger_> it's a facebook monopoly on facebook, but there's also twitter, irc, tumblr
16:28:39 <abortion> Social networks
16:28:50 <abortion> they're close, but not perfect substitutes of one another
16:29:27 <abortion> There is little reason to talk about monopoly if everything is in its own market, even though there is clear competition between them
16:30:33 <Tigger_> I'm more thinking about the future, such as the prospect that you are penalised for not agreeing to receive your utility bills through facebook, and paying for them on facebook
16:30:49 <abortion> Sure its not a true monopoly with zero alternatives, but when it comes to meeting people, the common point is that you have facebook
16:31:03 <abortion> utility bills when lots of them are already privatised?
16:31:12 <Tigger_> not all of them
16:31:27 <Tigger_> in QLD electricity is still a state enterprise
16:31:42 <abortion> its funny how that is an important distinction to make
16:31:51 <abortion> as if the government is really so different
16:33:18 <Tigger_> I'm ultimately hoping the issue goes away, when a house can be fully autonomous of networks for electricity and water
16:35:06 <abortion> water is harder
16:35:14 <abortion> electricity is already getting there
16:35:21 <Tigger_> depends where you are, in QLD water is easier
16:35:33 <abortion> to make it potable... not so much
16:35:57 <Tigger_> plenty of people already do that, I've not heard of them being taken to hospital
16:38:39 <abortion> That isn't everyone though, Some people might have low quality water which requires far greater treatment
16:38:46 <abortion> thinking of everyone
16:38:59 <abortion> and everyone is responsible for their own water treatment
16:39:11 <Tigger_> rain water or arterial water?
16:39:25 <abortion> any
16:39:31 <abortion> whatever water they can get
16:39:40 <abortion> I know that parts of QLD are in serious drought
16:40:16 <Tigger_> that affects farming rather than personal use, you just add more tanks if you're in a drought prone area
16:40:42 <abortion> which still adds to the cost
16:40:52 <abortion> the tanks need maintenence too
16:40:55 <abortion> lots of standing water
16:41:41 <Tigger_> it wouldn't be as expensive as my water rates, typical bill: $15 of water used + $300 service charge
16:42:22 <abortion> depends who does the maintenence
16:42:49 <abortion> the service charge means you don't do any, but if you were to get below that $300 you would be in charge of maintenence, can't get anyone else in to do it
16:43:00 <abortion> (for your own tanks)
16:43:06 <abortion> For some people, this is not viable
16:43:53 <Tigger_> perhaps, but this is also overlooking something, that $300 service charge is bogus, it's a tax, all utility bills are a tax
16:44:34 <abortion> a tax to perform infrastructure maintenence
16:44:41 <abortion> the pipes aren't magic
16:44:50 <Tigger_> which doesn't cost anything like $300 per house
16:45:15 <abortion> also the water treatment
16:45:31 <abortion> the auditing (which you can argue is a false economy perhaps)
16:45:39 <Tigger_> again it couldn't possibly cost so much
16:46:04 <abortion> Have you ever been involved in any engineering project?
16:46:10 <Tigger_> never
16:46:21 <abortion> ok so lets do some calculations
16:46:31 <abortion> how many households are we going to calculate for
16:46:38 <Tigger_> let's say 100,000
16:46:54 <abortion> for 100,000 houses, how much length of pipe will there be
16:47:01 <abortion> what is their average water usage rates
16:47:22 <Tigger_> I don't know
16:47:42 <abortion> well you can't just say "it couldn't possibly be X" if you don't know the scale of it
16:50:08 <Tigger_> because I don't believe it has anything to do with engineering costs, and what engineering costs there are, are massively inflated by managerial class rent seeking
16:50:10 <abortion> So just looking up some forums, for a private plumber to lay some pipe in a household only (so not representative of mains trunks or digging up main roads etc) I was told it would be about £1500 to get the plumbing done by a plumber in the house, then for every meter of pipe welsh water needed to lay from the boundary of my house to the main supply pipe I had to pay £120 per meter.
16:51:10 <abortion> No you wouldn't because you've never seen costs blow out at the coal face
16:52:12 <abortion> so if we split up 100,000 houses into rows of about 40 per street, we can start to make an approximation of pipe cost
16:52:14 <Tigger_> but the pipes were laid down decades ago, and I have not seen any council workers doing anything with the water mains
16:52:46 <abortion> That's because their engineered to last, one day they will have to. So there will have been an outlay cost, which we don't know
16:53:21 <abortion> they didn't pay the money upfront, as you know, even governments take out loans
16:53:42 <abortion> as I was saying, we've been having quite a number of bursts here in Adelaide lately
16:53:46 <abortion> which now need to be addressed
16:54:16 <abortion> Digging up road is a disruption which has economic consequences
16:55:52 <Tigger_> the water utility is privatised in Adelaide?
17:09:57 <abortion> Apparently not
17:10:02 <abortion> the maintenence is contracted out though
17:11:14 <abortion> "SA Water employs more than 1,500 people" for 1.5 million people, I am suprised, I was working off the assumption of 1 per 1000 people including maintenece, but that figure I would presume doesn't include all contractors
17:11:39 <abortion> When I was thinking about calculating the cost for the scenario we generated
17:13:14 <abortion> Was going to say, 100 employees by the company, each at 75,000 with a futher 50% cost to the company to employ then (Payroll Tax, office hire + power + computers) rounding out to about $100,000/person which is probably lowballing it really
17:13:21 <Tigger_> sub-contracting usually runs up the costs too, over doing it in-house
17:13:53 <abortion> then adding the cost of the treatment facilities, the cost of repayments on the initial infrastructure loan testing, auditing of water quality
17:14:15 <abortion> I presume sewerage isn't included in that $300 (is that per quarter or per year?)
17:14:27 <Tigger_> per half year
17:14:40 <abortion> ok so $600/year
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17:14:47 <Tigger_> there are general rates too, which I think is where sewerage is
17:14:58 <abortion> for 100,000 people thats $60 million
17:15:06 <abortion> oh it does, so we have to add sewerage costs to that as well
17:15:18 <Tigger_> no, in the general rates bill
17:15:31 <abortion> oh right
17:15:33 <Tigger_> I get two rates bills, 1. general, 2. water
17:15:36 <abortion> sorry I misread
17:16:23 <abortion> So my estimate was $50,000/metre for the very largest mains, due to the diameter of the pipes required
17:16:46 <abortion> a kilometre of that would thus be $50million
17:16:58 <Tigger_> that is an unlike comparison though, a private plumber is doing one off jobs, so has no economy of scale
17:17:18 <abortion> I ended up ignoring that because the pipes are tiny in comparison
17:17:23 <abortion> done mostly by hand
17:17:41 <Tigger_> also housing developments often pay the council for the infrastructure costs
17:17:43 <abortion> whereas the fattest mains pipes come in massive concrete sections with an internal lining that needs to be welded together
17:18:03 <abortion> No these are wide area distribution pipes, I hadn't gotten to local distribution yet
17:18:47 <abortion> You'd have district distribution which would be smaller, then street pipes, followed by feeder pipes to the houses themselves
17:20:11 <abortion> I really shouldn't be doing this during work, but I can keep developing this simulation if you'd like
17:20:24 <abortion> or you can remind me later
17:20:27 <Tigger_> I can see where you're going
17:21:14 <abortion> Have you seen this? http://xkcd.com/1649/
17:22:21 <abortion> The size of the public water pipe for all of the US is humungous in that simulation
17:22:28 <abortion> off the scale
17:23:09 <abortion> The Petroleum pipe there seems to be about 2 metres in diameter (all fluids at 4 metres per second, as stated)
17:23:12 <Tigger_> that is interesting, though it looks as if 'public water' has mixed private household water with industrial and other commercial use
17:23:18 <abortion> probably
17:23:39 <abortion> I had to revise because I was going to say residential use, which seems unlikely
17:24:06 <Tigger_> and we all know that industrial water rates are far cheaper than residential rates
17:24:35 <abortion> true, they also use far far more, so the fixed costs are overtaken by the massive amount of cost in water they actually use
17:24:59 <abortion> the problem with residential is it goes through all the feeders and demand tends to be pretty unpredictable
17:25:13 <abortion> they need to build in margins of safety
17:25:34 <abortion> whereas industrial use would be estimated at machine setup time
17:25:44 <abortion> and the company would pay for the amount they expect
17:25:49 <abortion> (in installation)
17:26:14 <Tigger_> I'd guess that residential usage patterns have been modelled pretty well by now, so that there are few surprises
17:26:34 <abortion> not for individual houses though, only on the wider scale
17:26:52 <Tigger_> yes
17:27:46 <abortion> Industrial installations are probably also cheaper because they aren't concerned about things like pipes being above ground at stages, as well as one big pipe as opposed to hundreds of residential scale pipes
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17:31:56 <Tigger_> I also wonder what the industrial water rate service charge is
17:32:09 <Tigger_> since that's the central issue
17:34:22 <abortion> For small companies it'd be much the same as residential, I think only ones which are large manufacturing who have specially installed lines and a high expected usage get the much cheaper rates
17:34:46 <abortion> They might also have agreements such as no requirement for potability
17:34:58 <abortion> which would mean it doesn't need to go through intensive treatment
17:36:19 <Tigger_> come to think of it another issue is that you can't opt out, if you install your water tanks to capture roof water, at most you can only save that $15
17:37:07 <abortion> That's not the case here, you can opt out of mains water, but not out of sewerage
17:37:31 <Tigger_> oh I didn't know that
17:37:44 <Tigger_> I've never heard of it being done
17:37:58 <abortion> because its a headache
17:38:15 <abortion> as I was saying, once you have your own infrastructure, you have to start worrying about that stuff yourself
17:38:17 <Tigger_> is this for new developments only?
17:38:27 <abortion> that much I don't know
17:38:38 <abortion> I thought it was, you stop paying your bills, we cut off water
17:38:57 <abortion> but sewerage is done through the council, so you stop paying that and the council takes legal action against you
17:39:08 <abortion> (I think re through the council)
17:39:18 <Tigger_> that's the way it is typically done here for every aspect of rates
17:39:31 <Tigger_> there isn't any way to turn off someone's water
17:39:58 <abortion> They probably read the meters and if they find usage, then they sue you would be my guess
17:40:04 <Tigger_> yes
17:40:07 <abortion> here there is an on premises master tap
17:40:20 <Tigger_> Brisbane actually only installed water meters a few years back
17:40:27 <abortion> really?
17:40:36 <abortion> maybe thats why the fixed rate is so high
17:40:43 <abortion> metres have been here for decades
17:40:52 <Tigger_> yes, water rates were just calculated by average usage and unimproved land value
17:41:17 <abortion> that would make sense
17:41:31 <abortion> I was a bit puzzled by the $15 of usage
17:41:54 <abortion> here the usage values are more like $200+ with fixed charges of, I'm not sure, but around $75
17:42:06 <abortion> $4/kL
17:42:13 <abortion> iirc
17:42:22 <abortion> 1kL is a cubic metre of water
17:42:53 <Tigger_> Adelaide probably has much more expensive water, given its complicated way of acquiring it
17:42:59 <abortion> true
17:43:05 <Tigger_> though I'd expect the service charge to be much higher too
17:43:14 <abortion> apparently not
17:43:29 <abortion> which as I said, I suspect is because usage has been counted here for much longer
17:43:44 <abortion> so that $300 in yours probably has an allowance before they charge extra
17:44:04 <Tigger_> it doesn't
17:44:08 <Tigger_> as I hardly use any water
17:44:10 * abortion shrugs
17:44:31 <Tigger_> such as there is no point in watering the garden here
17:44:38 <abortion> What about showers?
17:44:54 <Tigger_> yes, showers and drinking water
17:45:06 <abortion> You must have very short showers
17:45:40 <Tigger_> they have a bar graph at the end of the bill comparing my water usage to the average, I'm way below
17:45:54 <Tigger_> which is to be expected, a single person occupying a 5 bedroom house
17:46:36 <abortion> even for one person, I don't see many people using only 4kL in half a year, so the water rates themselves must be very different
17:47:04 <abortion> which could also account for the difference
17:47:22 <abortion> they get the fixed costs from everyone, so they don't charge as much per unit
17:48:13 <abortion> I've got to go
17:48:24 <Tigger_> ok, see you then
17:58:38 <Tigger_> `topic Mark Latham continues to redeem himself by endorsing Lord Trump, proof that being bipolar is a step up from being normal: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/in-defence-of-the-donald/news-story/584c03e48644c98e505a8a32c403de03
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18:36:24 <okay> Tigger_
18:36:26 <okay> more doctors prefer drug mule coke than any other brand of anally imported disco shit
18:36:27 <okay> wtf
18:41:43 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s horse hi-jacked a plane
18:41:57 <Warren1984> he booted down the cockpit door
18:41:59 Nick: okay is now known as plata`o`plomo
18:42:26 <Warren1984> then grabed them by the head with his mouth and threw them out the cockput windows
18:42:42 <Warren1984> cockpit
18:46:45 Nick: plata`o`plomo is now known as `op
18:57:36 <`op> hi
19:03:46 <`op> Tigger_ this
19:03:48 <`op> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIu6va2H7w&feature=youtu.be
19:03:52 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DREAM ITZ MIX 2016 HARD TRANCE MUSIC (Mar 30, 2016) Length: 5:27 - Category: Music - 17 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
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19:27:00 <`op> broke me bong
19:27:03 <`op> fuck
19:27:18 <`op> jinxed
19:27:34 <`op> might as well stop
19:27:43 <`op> learnt enough bullshit
19:31:29 <GOOGLE> druggie
19:31:31 <GOOGLE> junki cunt
19:31:34 <GOOGLE> junkkiii
19:31:36 <GOOGLE> get a job
19:31:38 <GOOGLE> JUNKIE CUNT
19:36:09 <doctor> yep
19:37:09 <GOOGLE> yes
19:37:23 <GOOGLE> wise words
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19:39:58 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
19:40:34 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ the day you fucking die i will polish off a second bottle of Jimmy
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19:41:27 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> there will be nothin left once your ashes get PISSED ON
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19:43:06 <Warren1984> `ban Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon don't hurt my friend
19:43:22 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ is not your friend Warren1984
19:43:33 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> nor is anyone else
19:43:34 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> lol
19:44:21 <GOOGLE> Tigger_ you are most hated throughout the entire region
19:44:36 <GOOGLE> you are a figure that is on a hit list for assassination
19:44:47 <GOOGLE> you will be taken out sooner than you think
19:44:47 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ is the most degenerate human being on earth but he fears death
19:45:01 <GOOGLE> those that are close to you are not what they seem
19:45:12 <GOOGLE> you will rue the day u decided to cross paths with us
19:46:11 <GOOGLE> evil has come to the surface and you will be devoured by its furious vengence
19:46:17 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> doesnt matter man
19:46:30 <GOOGLE> shut ur hole u white cunt
19:46:38 <GOOGLE> i was talking to tigger_ not you
19:46:41 <GOOGLE> u imposter
19:46:48 <GOOGLE> go and pose elsewhere
19:46:57 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> over Tigger_' grave, i do a murder dance
19:47:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> u know
19:47:03 <GOOGLE> he was a marked man long before you arrived on the scene
19:47:06 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> dance on d fuckin grave
19:47:17 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> like these ppl
19:47:18 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> in the cage
19:47:21 <GOOGLE> you have come late to the party
19:47:32 <GOOGLE> and you will now be the first to leave
19:47:33 <GOOGLE> BE GONE
19:47:44 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ will die . and he will scream on his death bed
19:47:52 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> he will cry
19:48:11 <GOOGLE> cry tears of joy when you /part right now
19:48:16 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i just hopes he YouTubes it so i can jack off later
19:49:02 <GOOGLE> you have absolutely no idea who you are dealing with \
19:49:46 <GOOGLE> and the power that we posess will leave your mind boggling
19:49:50 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> so like
19:50:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> the other day i took a shit right
19:50:10 <GOOGLE> i have already said enough
19:50:12 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> it had worms in it
19:50:16 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> like maggots, in my poo
19:50:17 <GOOGLE> i will not reveal anymore
19:50:21 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> but why
19:50:26 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> is that bad or something?
19:51:11 <GOOGLE> we don't care what you say or think
19:51:11 <GOOGLE> we do as we please
19:51:11 <GOOGLE> we run this town
19:51:11 <GOOGLE> this city
19:51:11 <GOOGLE> this country
19:51:22 <GOOGLE> this universe this fucking planet it's ours
19:51:35 <GOOGLE> you are all just a figment of my imagination
19:51:42 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> and you are just a fig
19:51:54 <GOOGLE> you only exist because i say u do
19:52:20 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> well thats the wonderful thing about opinions GOOGLE
19:52:24 <GOOGLE> your entire existance can be taken away from you before you realize
19:52:28 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i happen to have the opinion Tigger_ will burn in hell
19:52:31 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> your opinion differs
19:52:35 <GOOGLE> i dont care what your saying
19:52:35 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> but thats why opinions differ
19:52:39 <GOOGLE> you are nothing
19:52:46 <GOOGLE> i am the chosen one
19:52:50 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> and thats what makes opinions so great. we can all have different ones
19:53:01 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> its a beatiful thing
19:53:14 <GOOGLE> and i will destroy those who decide to cross my path
19:53:17 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> are u xm?
19:53:21 <GOOGLE> u are now officially gone.
19:53:29 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> cause i cbf whoising you. your not important enough
19:53:32 <GOOGLE> you are now marked
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20:50:23 <Tigger_> skip, you're a mess
20:50:45 Join: mrwuf ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:56:00 <mrwuf> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/30/do-all-roads-lead-through-italy-for-isis.html
20:56:04 Join: Glenn ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
20:57:39 <mrwuf> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/30/do-all-roads-lead-through-italy-for-isis.html
20:59:00 <Tigger_> not a bad thing, then Italy will secure its borders, then ISIS will move to Spain, thus provoking a reaction there too
21:00:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would clip clop kick down the cockpit door and do this to the pilots -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9YUNYZv1j0
21:00:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Angry camel attacks man and throws him to the top of his head (Nov 15, 2014) Length: 0:05 - Category: People & Blogs - 42,848 views - 53 likes (93%), 4 dislikes (7%)
21:00:16 <Tigger_> not a bad thing, then Italy will secure its borders, then ISIS will move to Spain, thus provoking a reaction there too
21:01:00 <Tigger_> he would to a black muslim
21:01:18 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would clip clop kick down the cockpit door and do this to the pilots -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9YUNYZv1j0
21:01:22 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Angry camel attacks man and throws him to the top of his head (Nov 15, 2014) Length: 0:05 - Category: People & Blogs - 42,848 views - 53 likes (93%), 4 dislikes (7%)
21:02:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlcn-_jpWY
21:02:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Selena Gomez - Hands To Myself (Jan 20, 2016) Length: 3:48 - Category: Music - 89,628,791 views - 1,098,440 likes (94.5%), 64,405 dislikes (5.5%)
21:02:36 <Tigger_> he would to a black muslim
21:03:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ maybe i just know whats goin on
21:03:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> ever think of this you degenerate asshole
21:03:29 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlcn-_jpWY
21:03:33 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Selena Gomez - Hands To Myself (Jan 20, 2016) Length: 3:48 - Category: Music - 89,628,791 views - 1,098,440 likes (94.5%), 64,405 dislikes (5.5%)
21:04:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i will destroy you
21:04:00 <Tigger_> skip, that's very low energy
21:04:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i will destroy you and then life can move on. there is no other option but complete annihilation of your capacity to breathe
21:04:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you will die soon tho so its cool
21:04:42 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ maybe i just know whats goin on
21:04:50 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> ever think of this you degenerate asshole
21:05:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you deserve death. sure its terrifying but just drink beer first or something
21:05:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i am smarter than you Tigger)
21:05:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> I am smarter than you
21:05:00 <mrwuf> wow is mendalson still listening to that gore rap and typing nonsensical rambles... how many years has that been now
21:05:00 <mrwuf> major behaviour loop
21:05:07 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i will destroy you
21:05:19 <Tigger_> skip, that's very low energy
21:05:35 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i will destroy you and then life can move on. there is no other option but complete annihilation of your capacity to breathe
21:05:47 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you will die soon tho so its cool
21:06:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ dont u think its disgusting your behaviour has totally changed since plivent manipulated you?
21:06:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> like , hes not even that bright
21:06:07 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you deserve death. sure its terrifying but just drink beer first or something
21:06:30 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i am smarter than you Tigger)
21:06:36 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> I am smarter than you
21:06:44 <mrwuf> wow is mendalson still listening to that gore rap and typing nonsensical rambles... how many years has that been now
21:07:00 <Tigger_> I don't drink beer
21:07:00 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> bye
21:07:01 <mrwuf> major behaviour loop
21:07:38 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> Tigger_ dont u think its disgusting your behaviour has totally changed since plivent manipulated you?
21:07:56 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> like , hes not even that bright
21:08:23 <Tigger_> I don't drink beer
21:08:27 <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> bye
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21:09:00 <Tigger_> hi Lish
21:10:00 <Lish> Hey
21:10:00 <Lish> What's up
21:10:00 <Tigger_> skip was going mad before
21:10:00 <Lish> Like usual
21:10:15 Join: Lish ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
21:10:21 <Tigger_> hi Lish
21:11:00 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i will destroy you and then life can move on. there is no other option but complete annihilation of your capacity to breathe
21:11:00 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you will die soon tho so its cool
21:11:00 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you deserve death. sure its terrifying but just drink beer first or something
21:11:00 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i am smarter than you Tigger)
21:11:00 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> I am smarter than you
21:11:00 <Lish> Haha wild
21:11:05 <Lish> Hey
21:11:38 <Lish> What's up
21:11:46 <Tigger_> skip was going mad before
21:11:53 <Lish> Like usual
21:12:00 <Lish> He's nuts
21:12:20 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i will destroy you and then life can move on. there is no other option but complete annihilation of your capacity to breathe
21:12:21 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you will die soon tho so its cool
21:12:21 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> you deserve death. sure its terrifying but just drink beer first or something
21:12:21 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> i am smarter than you Tigger)
21:12:21 <Tigger_> <Tigger_Will_Be_Dead_Soon> I am smarter than you
21:12:36 <Lish> Haha wild
21:13:00 <Tigger_> anyway, it's a big, exciting night for me
21:13:36 <Lish> He's nuts
21:14:00 <Lish> Why
21:14:25 <Tigger_> anyway, it's a big, exciting night for me
21:15:00 <Tigger_> right as we speak, I am downloading the film Xanadu
21:15:00 <Lish> Wow sounds shit
21:15:00 <Tigger_> why?
21:15:29 <Lish> Why
21:16:00 <Lish> I bought jam
21:16:08 <Tigger_> right as we speak, I am downloading the film Xanadu
21:16:18 <Lish> Wow sounds shit
21:16:43 <Tigger_> why?
21:17:00 <Lish> We have a taste of harmony lunch tomorrow at work
21:17:00 <Lish> http://www.tasteofharmony.org.au/
21:17:00 <Lish> I said I'd bring a sweet
21:17:00 <Tigger_> A Taste of Harmony is a free and delicious way to celebrate your workplace's cultural diversity.
21:17:00 <Tigger_> that's the most faggot thing I've ever heard
21:17:00 <Lish> Hahahaha
21:18:00 <screws> well fuck you too Lish :)
21:18:00 <Ozone> is that like a lunch order?
21:18:00 <Lish> Cause it does
21:19:00 <Tigger_> a good way to rub it in worker's faces how they're being replaced by Indians and so on, one by one, and they have to celebrate it
21:19:00 <Ozone> lish hates movies that start with an X, she finds them to have sub-par story and production values
21:19:59 <Lish> Cause it does
21:20:00 <Ozone> haha
21:20:00 <Tigger_> Lish is jealous of Olivia Newton John
21:21:00 <miles> hi Ozone
21:21:01 <Ozone> lish hates movies that start with an X, she finds them to have sub-par story and production values
21:21:43 <Tigger_> Lish is jealous of Olivia Newton John
21:22:00 <Lish> I hate the 80s
21:22:00 <Lish> I'm eating apple crumble pizza
21:23:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYC3sAtEuOA
21:23:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The rise of 'chemsex' on London's gay scene - BBC News (Jul 5, 2015) Length: 10:33 - Category: News & Politics - 68,581 views - 121 likes (67.2%), 59 dislikes (32.8%)
21:23:00 <Lish> Hahahahaha
21:23:00 <Ozone> hi
21:23:00 <Lish> Scones aren't really lunch
21:23:00 <Lish> But it'll do
21:23:00 <Tigger_> terrible video quality, but it'll be so good in 1080p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4WLZHXcds
21:23:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Olivia Newton John - Xanadu (FULL Film Video Version).mp4 (Apr 23, 2011) Length: 0:04 - Category: Film & Animation - 503,295 views - 1,844 likes (97.3%), 51 dislikes (2.7%)
21:23:26 <Lish> I hate the 80s
21:23:34 <Lish> I'm eating apple crumble pizza
21:24:00 <Lish> I'll probably only eat food I bring anyway, and my friend lol
21:24:00 <Lish> But as a manager you have to participate in these types of events
21:24:00 <nuthin> Hello
21:24:10 <Tigger_> terrible video quality, but it'll be so good in 1080p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4WLZHXcds
21:24:14 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Olivia Newton John - Xanadu (FULL Film Video Version).mp4 (Apr 23, 2011) Length: 0:04 - Category: Film & Animation - 503,295 views - 1,844 likes (97.3%), 51 dislikes (2.7%)
21:24:54 Join: nuthin ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
21:25:00 <Tigger_> why are you feuding with screws?
21:25:00 <Lish> I'm not
21:25:00 <Lish> I don't even know who that is
21:25:00 <Lish> Was just for fun
21:25:00 <Tigger_> looked like it
21:25:00 <Tigger_> another female to fight
21:25:00 <Lish> Like I have a memory of knowing screws
21:25:00 <Lish> But that's it
21:25:00 <Lish> I thought screws was a guy
21:25:00 <Tigger_> female
21:25:18 <nuthin> Hello
21:26:00 <Lish> You know me, I don't pay attention to things on here
21:26:00 <Lish> Hmm strange
21:28:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNcUv1q2JAs
21:28:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Xanadu Official Trailer #1 - Gene Kelly Movie (1980) HD (Jan 9, 2012) Length: 2:03 - Category: Film & Animation - 93,548 views - 168 likes (92.3%), 14 dislikes (7.7%)
21:28:00 <Lish> How was work ozone?
21:29:10 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNcUv1q2JAs
21:29:14 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Xanadu Official Trailer #1 - Gene Kelly Movie (1980) HD (Jan 9, 2012) Length: 2:03 - Category: Film & Animation - 93,548 views - 168 likes (92.3%), 14 dislikes (7.7%)
21:29:35 <Lish> How was work ozone?
21:30:00 <Ozone> shit
21:30:00 <Lish> Sounds correct
21:31:00 <Lish> Ozone you're here. How's no work treating you
21:31:00 <Ozone> yup
21:31:38 <Ozone> shit
21:31:52 <Lish> Sounds correct
21:32:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/a/24tn6
21:32:00 <Lish> So close up gee
21:32:00 <Lish> Apple crumble pizza will help
21:32:00 <Ozone> you gonna give me some?
21:32:55 <Ozone> yup
21:33:00 <Tigger_> no sultanas?
21:33:00 <Lish> http://Imgur.com/a/wVQPD
21:33:00 <Lish> Nah
21:33:00 <Lish> I'm watching car pool karaoke on YouTube it's funny
21:33:07 <Lish> Apple crumble pizza will help
21:33:47 <Ozone> you gonna give me some?
21:34:00 <Lish> Um no
21:34:00 <Lish> Disgusting
21:34:00 <Tigger_> sultanas are a nice little present in scones
21:34:00 <Tigger_> but they look nice
21:34:00 <Ozone> ew
21:34:00 <Lish> Why ew
21:34:00 <Ozone> you can practice it i guess
21:34:00 <Ozone> keep on singing
21:34:00 <Ozone> then impress your friend jen when you meet her
21:34:00 <Lish> Nooo
21:34:00 <Lish> It's a segment on the late show
21:34:00 <Lish> Where celebrities go in a car
21:34:00 <Ozone> ahh
21:34:00 <Lish> With the guy from the late show
21:34:00 <Lish> Watch it, it's funny
21:34:41 <Lish> Nah
21:34:48 <Lish> I'm watching car pool karaoke on YouTube it's funny
21:35:00 <Lish> Of course they do!
21:35:00 <Marttinn> who's gonna build the wall?
21:35:00 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9CYjmQvcag&t=31s
21:35:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mexico - Claudio Villa (Jan 4, 2009) Length: 3:36 - Category: Travel & Events - 197,687 views - 415 likes (95.6%), 19 dislikes (4.4%)
21:35:07 <Ozone> ew
21:35:17 <Lish> Why ew
21:35:19 <Ozone> you can practice it i guess
21:35:24 <Ozone> keep on singing
21:35:37 <Ozone> then impress your friend jen when you meet her
21:35:39 <Lish> Nooo
21:35:45 <Lish> It's a segment on the late show
21:35:49 <Lish> Where celebrities go in a car
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21:35:53 <Ozone> ahh
21:35:54 <Lish> With the guy from the late show
21:35:57 <Lish> Watch it, it's funny
21:36:00 <Lish> I'm amazing at baking haha
21:36:44 <Marttinn> who's gonna build the wall?
21:36:46 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9CYjmQvcag&t=31s
21:36:50 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mexico - Claudio Villa (Jan 4, 2009) Length: 3:36 - Category: Travel & Events - 197,687 views - 415 likes (95.6%), 19 dislikes (4.4%)
21:37:00 <Tigger_> it'll be good to have a wall to keep all that out
21:37:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ messed his pants
21:37:00 <TRUMPPP> ok
21:38:00 <Ozone> its good. back tomorrow unfortunately
21:38:00 <TRUMPPP> so i just bought alcohol i dont really give a fuck about any of you
21:38:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ i will abuse you constantly till you gain the cajones to ban me
21:38:00 <Marttinn> mexico could have a new golden era if they refuse to interact with the USA
21:38:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ im onto you
21:38:38 <Tigger_> it'll be good to have a wall to keep all that out
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21:38:51 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ messed his pants
21:38:59 <TRUMPPP> ok
21:39:00 <Lish> That sucks, but two days and then the weekend
21:39:00 <Lish> Did you accomplish anything
21:39:00 <TRUMPPP> i will not give you a moment of mercifulness
21:39:00 <TRUMPPP> u understand me?
21:39:00 <TRUMPPP> and its just gonna get worse and worse i mean geez
21:39:00 <TRUMPPP> where the fuck is LISH
21:39:06 <TRUMPPP> so i just bought alcohol i dont really give a fuck about any of you
21:39:19 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ i will abuse you constantly till you gain the cajones to ban me
21:39:52 <Marttinn> mexico could have a new golden era if they refuse to interact with the USA
21:40:00 <Ozone> yeah
21:40:00 <Ozone> i accomplished a lot of sleeping in
21:40:00 <Lish> Haha till like 8am?
21:40:00 <Lish> Your sleeping in sucks... I know it!
21:40:00 <Ozone> yeah, sometimes even 8:30!!!
21:40:00 <Tigger_> Mexico can keep all their drugs, kidnappings, satanism for themselves
21:40:01 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ im onto you
21:40:10 <TRUMPPP> i will not give you a moment of mercifulness
21:40:14 <TRUMPPP> u understand me?
21:40:44 <TRUMPPP> and its just gonna get worse and worse i mean geez
21:40:48 <TRUMPPP> where the fuck is LISH
21:41:00 <Lish> Ridiculous
21:41:00 <Lish> It's my anniversary today, what did you get me?
21:41:00 <TRUMPPP> go away asshole
21:41:00 <TRUMPPP> no one invited u
21:41:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ i have achieved extreme success today and im very proud of myself
21:41:00 <TRUMPPP> u know that?
21:41:09 <Tigger_> Mexico can keep all their drugs, kidnappings, satanism for themselves
21:42:00 <Ozone> my dirty socks on the floor ready to be washed
21:42:00 <Lish> Gross
21:42:00 <Lish> Couldn't live with me if you put dirty clothes on the floor!
21:42:00 <TRUMPPP> i came on to inform you that i am an amazing success
21:42:00 <TRUMPPP> and even Ethanols pig wife cant bring me down
21:42:00 <Tigger_> did you build a wall?
21:42:00 <TRUMPPP> yes
21:42:00 <TRUMPPP> what the fuck else?
21:42:00 <TRUMPPP> are u dumb or something??
21:42:00 <Tigger_> I had big gambling wins today
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21:42:26 <TRUMPPP> go away asshole
21:42:28 <TRUMPPP> no one invited u
21:42:57 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ i have achieved extreme success today and im very proud of myself
21:43:00 <Ozone> i did it especially just for you
21:43:00 <Tigger_> my horse won on poker
21:43:02 <TRUMPPP> u know that?
21:43:12 <TRUMPPP> i came on to inform you that i am an amazing success
21:43:19 <TRUMPPP> and even Ethanols pig wife cant bring me down
21:43:22 <Tigger_> did you build a wall?
21:43:25 <TRUMPPP> yes
21:43:49 <TRUMPPP> what the fuck else?
21:43:56 <TRUMPPP> are u dumb or something??
21:44:00 <Lish> Lovely
21:44:00 <Lish> My husband got me nothing hahaha
21:44:00 <Tigger_> where else are dirty clothes supposed to go?
21:44:00 <Ozone> nothing??
21:44:00 <Ozone> well i'm glad i've done better than him
21:44:00 <Tigger_> did you get your husband those leather chaps and leather gimp mask you said you were going to?
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ i am onto u
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i know every scheme you possess
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i know
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i know how you roll
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i know how to defeat pigs like u
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> and more importantly conquer
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i am doing extremely well lately
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ this upsets u
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i know u
21:44:00 <TRUMPPP> i know all your scams
21:44:01 <Tigger_> I had big gambling wins today
21:44:08 Quit: mrwuf ([email protected]) Client exited
21:44:24 <Tigger_> my horse won on poker
21:44:52 Quit: Lish ([email protected]) Connection closed
21:45:00 <Lish> Hahahah I never said that
21:45:00 <Lish> You did
21:45:00 <Lish> And no
21:45:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> i know u are a wanker
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ this will never end
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ this will go on till the day you cease irc'ing
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> okeh?
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> this will go on
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> u will be hounded
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> i will never let you off the hook
21:45:00 <TRUMPPP> wanna test me u absolute wanker?
21:45:09 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ i am onto u
21:45:14 <TRUMPPP> i know every scheme you possess
21:45:18 <TRUMPPP> i know
21:45:23 <TRUMPPP> i know how you roll
21:45:32 <TRUMPPP> i know how to defeat pigs like u
21:45:37 <TRUMPPP> and more importantly conquer
21:45:44 <TRUMPPP> i am doing extremely well lately
21:45:52 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ this upsets u
21:45:56 <TRUMPPP> i know u
21:45:59 <TRUMPPP> i know all your scams
21:46:00 <TRUMPPP> u dickhead?
21:46:00 <Tigger_> `ban TRUMPPP David doesn't win anymore
21:46:01 <TRUMPPP> i know u
21:46:06 <Warren1984> hey doctor
21:46:10 <TRUMPPP> i know u are a wanker
21:46:19 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ this will never end
21:46:33 <TRUMPPP> Tigger_ this will go on till the day you cease irc'ing
21:46:42 <TRUMPPP> okeh?
21:46:44 <TRUMPPP> this will go on
21:46:48 <TRUMPPP> u will be hounded
21:46:55 <TRUMPPP> i will never let you off the hook
21:47:00 <Ozone> what did you get him?
21:47:00 <Lish> Nothing
21:47:00 <Ozone> why nothing?
21:47:00 <Lish> I'm his wife, that's gift enough
21:47:00 <Ozone> wrong
21:47:00 <Tigger_> `setuser Hallelujahah level 150
21:47:02 <TRUMPPP> wanna test me u absolute wanker?
21:47:06 <TRUMPPP> u dickhead?
21:48:00 <Tigger_> `ban TRUMPPP David doesn't win anymore
21:48:00 Kick: TRUMPPP was kicked by ChanOP ((Tigger_) David doesn't win anymore)
21:48:00 <Lish> That's a gift you wish you had, so it must be pretty good
21:48:00 <Lish> Oh hey kid
21:48:00 <Lish> Oh did he leave?
21:48:09 Join: TRUMPPP ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
21:48:09 Mode: (by ChanOP) +b *!*Pinnacle@*.tpgi.com.au
21:48:09 Kick: TRUMPPP was kicked by ChanOP (David doesn't win anymore)
21:48:20 <Tigger_> `setuser Hallelujahah level 150
21:49:00 <Ozone> well, funny you should mention that
21:49:00 <Lish> Oh?
21:49:00 <Ozone> .....you're wrong :P
21:49:00 <Tigger_> * ChanOP has kicked TRUMPPP from #politicaldebate ((Tigger_) David doesn't win anymore)
21:49:00 <Lish> Oh hahaha
21:49:14 Join: Lish ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
21:49:25 <Lish> Oh hey kid
21:49:32 <Lish> Oh did he leave?
21:50:00 <Lish> Hahaha
21:50:08 <Tigger_> * ChanOP has kicked TRUMPPP from #politicaldebate ((Tigger_) David doesn't win anymore)
21:50:26 <Lish> Oh hahaha
21:52:00 <Lish> I'm totally right
21:52:00 <Lish> Even tigger would want that gift
21:53:00 <Tigger_> you listen to grunge
21:54:00 <Lish> Yeah, it's awesome :)
21:55:00 <miles> https://youtu.be/4bDeE8gzENY
21:55:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DREAMS trance 2016 ALISID remix (Mar 30, 2016) Length: 3:15 - Category: Music - 1 view views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
21:56:00 <Lish> My hands are cold
21:58:00 <Lish> Does berocca have more vitamin d than a vitamin d tablet?
21:59:00 <Tigger_> it's my feet that get cold
21:59:00 <Tigger_> you'd have to compare on the side of the bottle
21:59:00 <Tigger_> but I'd guess not if it's not a dedicated tablet
21:59:00 <Lish> I got new slippers
21:59:00 <Lish> My feet are warm now
21:59:00 <Lish> I need gloves
22:00:00 <Lish> I love one direction
22:00:00 <Ozone> mmm. k
22:00:09 Quit: Lish ([email protected]) Connection closed
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22:01:00 <Lish> Ain't gunna lie
22:01:38 <Lish> I love one direction
22:01:45 <Ozone> mmm. k
22:02:18 <Lish> Ain't gunna lie
22:03:00 <Tigger_> get leather gloves and cut the fingers off, like an 80s cop show gang member
22:03:00 <Lish> Lol
22:03:00 <Lish> They are funny
22:03:00 <Tigger_> you must've been so upset when Zayn Malick quit the group
22:03:00 <Ozone> thanks, lish's husband
22:03:00 <Lish> No I hate zany
22:03:00 <Lish> Nial is the best
22:03:00 <Lish> Why thanks??
22:04:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is this guy talking about INTJ's -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX1n2shqeZk
22:04:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Radiohead - Creep (Nov 14, 2011) Length: 3:55 - Category: Music - 539,486 views - 4,768 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
22:04:00 <Tigger_> he's talking about himself actually
22:04:00 <Tigger_> about stalking girls
22:04:14 <Lish> They are funny
22:04:15 <Tigger_> you must've been so upset when Zayn Malick quit the group
22:04:16 <Ozone> thanks, lish's husband
22:04:27 <Lish> No I hate zany
22:04:32 <Lish> Nial is the best
22:04:35 <Lish> Why thanks??
22:05:00 <Lish> Ozone did u meet up with Jen on your days off
22:05:00 <Warren1984> INTJ -> does not think they are weird but others do
22:05:00 <Warren1984> I'm a creep I'm a weirdo
22:05:00 <Lish> Ozone??
22:05:19 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is this guy talking about INTJ's -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX1n2shqeZk
22:05:23 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Radiohead - Creep (Nov 14, 2011) Length: 3:55 - Category: Music - 539,486 views - 4,768 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
22:05:41 <Tigger_> he's talking about himself actually
22:05:51 <Tigger_> about stalking girls
22:06:00 <Tigger_> Ronnie Corbett died
22:06:27 <Warren1984> INTJ -> does not think they are weird but others do
22:06:47 <Warren1984> I'm a creep I'm a weirdo
22:06:51 <Lish> Ozone??
22:07:00 <Ozone> for your input
22:07:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ who is he talking to when he says I'm a creep i'm a weirdo?
22:07:00 <Tigger_> himself, have you seen Thom York's face?
22:07:00 <Lish> I also love the spice girls
22:07:31 <Tigger_> Ronnie Corbett died
22:08:00 <Ozone> no, should i have?
22:08:00 <Ozone> i bet you will say yes
22:08:00 <Warren1984> but a creep/weirdo to who
22:08:00 <Warren1984> ESFJ -> does not like strange people/things - likely intolerant of differences
22:08:19 <Ozone> for your input
22:08:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ who is he talking to when he says I'm a creep i'm a weirdo?
22:08:42 <Tigger_> himself, have you seen Thom York's face?
22:08:50 <Lish> I also love the spice girls
22:09:00 <Lish> Yes you should have
22:09:00 <Ozone> because...
22:09:00 <Lish> You need a girlfriend
22:09:00 <Lish> She's easy to secure
22:09:00 <Ozone> are you for real
22:09:00 <Tigger_> I hate Radiohead anyway, I've never understood why people are so into them
22:09:14 <Warren1984> but a creep/weirdo to who
22:09:40 <Warren1984> ESFJ -> does not like strange people/things - likely intolerant of differences
22:10:00 <Lish> And....very..... Lovely?.....
22:10:00 <Lish> Yes
22:10:00 <Lish> I'm always for real
22:10:00 <Ozone> i've officially woken up in bizarro world
22:10:00 <Lish> Make plans for the weekend
22:10:00 <Ozone> you're scaring me
22:10:38 <Tigger_> I hate Radiohead anyway, I've never understood why people are so into them
22:11:00 <Lish> Why
22:12:00 <Ozone> this is the last thing you would normally be saying
22:12:00 <Lish> What would I normally say
22:13:00 <ajnin> hahaha
22:13:00 <ajnin> spice bitches
22:13:00 <ajnin> i watched their world tour with some chick once
22:13:00 <ajnin> lol
22:13:00 <ajnin> how sad was I
22:14:00 <Tigger_> are you jealous, Lish?
22:14:00 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSIQiWiB3f8 I wanted to be here this year here with a #pd sign I owe you erlich, but I couldnt
22:14:00 <Lish> I love them
22:14:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Semana santa zaragoza 2016 - Jueves santo Prendimiento (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 7:04 - Category: Entertainment - 48 views views - 0 likes (0%), 0 dislikes (0%)
22:14:00 <Lish> They are great
22:14:00 <ajnin> posh is hot
22:14:00 <ajnin> and the red haired one
22:14:00 <ajnin> is hot
22:14:00 <ajnin> the rest.. yuck
22:14:25 <ajnin> hahaha
22:14:29 <ajnin> spice bitches
22:14:43 <ajnin> i watched their world tour with some chick once
22:14:44 <ajnin> lol
22:14:49 <ajnin> how sad was I
22:15:00 <Lish> No!
22:15:00 <Ozone> you'd normally go off tap about her
22:15:00 <Lish> I want him to meet up with her
22:15:00 <Lish> Incorrect ozone
22:15:00 <Ozone> wtf
22:15:00 <Lish> I'd say she's disgusting and you'd catch something
22:15:00 <Lish> But I always encourage you
22:15:00 <Ozone> i just had to do a /whois on you to make sure you are not her
22:15:00 <Tigger_> love the Klansmen
22:15:07 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSIQiWiB3f8 I wanted to be here this year here with a #pd sign I owe you erlich, but I couldnt
22:15:07 <Lish> I love them
22:15:10 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Semana santa zaragoza 2016 - Jueves santo Prendimiento (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 7:04 - Category: Entertainment - 48 views views - 0 likes (0%), 0 dislikes (0%)
22:15:11 <Lish> They are great
22:15:30 <ajnin> posh is hot
22:15:34 <ajnin> and the red haired one
22:15:36 <ajnin> is hot
22:15:40 <ajnin> the rest.. yuck
22:16:00 <Ozone> but i guess that part is definitely you
22:16:00 <Lish> Stop talking out your as
22:16:00 <Lish> Ass
22:16:00 <Tigger_> order of preference: Baby Spice, Posh Spice, Ginger Spice, Sporty Spice... no Scary Spice
22:16:14 <Tigger_> love the Klansmen
22:17:00 <Ozone> weird
22:17:46 <Tigger_> order of preference: Baby Spice, Posh Spice, Ginger Spice, Sporty Spice... no Scary Spice
22:18:00 <Lish> Weird?
22:18:00 <Lish> Just tried a scone, they are good
22:18:00 <ajnin> lish as a woman
22:18:00 <Lish> I love them all
22:18:00 <Lish> What
22:18:00 <ajnin> do you think a bring you SON to work day is sexist ?
22:19:00 <Lish> Yes
22:19:00 <Lish> Well not sexist, just weird
22:19:00 <Lish> Just make it a bring your kid to work day
22:19:00 <ajnin> bring your daughter to work day just as sexist ?
22:19:00 <Lish> Actually lets just not bring kids to work
22:19:00 <Lish> Yes
22:19:00 <ajnin> HAHAHAH I wish
22:19:00 <ajnin> thanks
22:19:00 <Lish> Why
22:19:00 <Lish> We have a women in technology forum at our work
22:19:00 <ajnin> I just wanted some external validation that I am not that fucked
22:19:00 <Lish> And I disagree with it
22:19:00 <Lish> Because if the men did it, people would be pissed
22:19:42 <ajnin> lish as a woman
22:19:46 <Lish> I love them all
22:19:47 <Lish> What
22:19:54 <ajnin> do you think a bring you SON to work day is sexist ?
22:20:00 <Tigger_> why do you want Ozone to meet up with her?
22:20:00 <ajnin> we had a bring your daughter to work day
22:20:00 <ajnin> and i got in a few fights with chicks
22:20:00 <ajnin> cause i think its fucking sexist
22:20:00 <Lish> lol
22:20:00 <ajnin> they have the weakest arguements for it
22:20:00 <ajnin> and I was like
22:20:00 <ajnin> fuck that..
22:20:00 <ajnin> woman as PM
22:20:00 <ajnin> you can do what you want
22:20:00 <ajnin> stop crying
22:20:00 <ajnin> and they were like.. we need more women in IT
22:20:05 <Lish> Yes
22:20:13 <Lish> Well not sexist, just weird
22:20:19 <Lish> Just make it a bring your kid to work day
22:20:19 <ajnin> bring your daughter to work day just as sexist ?
22:20:25 <Lish> Actually lets just not bring kids to work
22:20:26 <Lish> Yes
22:20:31 <ajnin> HAHAHAH I wish
22:20:38 <ajnin> thanks
22:20:42 <Lish> Why
22:20:52 <Lish> We have a women in technology forum at our work
22:20:52 <ajnin> I just wanted some external validation that I am not that fucked
22:20:55 <Lish> And I disagree with it
22:21:00 <Lish> He needs some loving
22:21:00 <Lish> She gives it out
22:21:00 <Lish> Why not?
22:21:00 <ajnin> and i told them
22:21:00 <ajnin> no you need more women truck drivers
22:21:00 <Lish> lol
22:21:00 <ajnin> and they were like women should not drive trucks
22:21:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ download this -> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/
22:21:00 <ajnin> that that was it
22:21:00 <ajnin> I lost my shit
22:21:00 <ajnin> i was like ok.. fair enought
22:21:00 <ajnin> lets just give every exec job and CEO job to women
22:21:00 <ajnin> and then everything will be all nice and fair
22:21:02 <Lish> Because if the men did it, people would be pissed
22:21:08 <ajnin> we had a bring your daughter to work day
22:21:15 <ajnin> and i got in a few fights with chicks
22:21:20 <ajnin> cause i think its fucking sexist
22:21:26 <Lish> lol
22:21:34 <ajnin> they have the weakest arguements for it
22:21:37 <ajnin> and I was like
22:21:38 <ajnin> fuck that..
22:21:45 <ajnin> woman as PM
22:21:51 <ajnin> you can do what you want
22:21:54 <ajnin> stop crying
22:22:00 <Lish> I'm being a good friend
22:22:00 <Ozone> you went from telling me she's a dangerous junkie to telling me to hook up with her
22:22:00 <Ozone> that's a bit of a change of pace
22:22:00 <Lish> I never said she was a junkie
22:22:00 <Lish> lol
22:22:00 <Lish> Women are still at w disadvantage in the work place
22:22:00 <Lish> Don't overlook that
22:22:00 <Lish> Women in the majority of professions earn less than their male counterparts doing the same role
22:22:00 <Lish> But I don't agree with those types of women only forum things
22:22:02 <ajnin> and they were like.. we need more women in IT
22:22:05 <ajnin> and i told them
22:22:12 <ajnin> no you need more women truck drivers
22:22:16 <Lish> lol
22:22:20 <ajnin> and they were like women should not drive trucks
22:22:21 <Warren1984> Tigger_ download this -> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/
22:22:25 <ajnin> that that was it
22:22:28 <ajnin> I lost my shit
22:22:42 <ajnin> i was like ok.. fair enought
22:22:51 <ajnin> lets just give every exec job and CEO job to women
22:22:57 <ajnin> and then everything will be all nice and fair
22:23:00 <Lish> Now you're being dramatic
22:23:00 <Tigger_> three girls that would make excellent wives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu65QxqvEk
22:23:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Rainbow: Fluffy Rockin' ft. Choya & JosyCupcake (Jun 12, 2012) Length: 2:47 - Category: Entertainment - 6,969 views - 84 likes (92.3%), 7 dislikes (7.7%)
22:23:00 <Ozone> whats a little hyperbole between friends
22:23:00 <ajnin> maybe my problem is I think that kind of fair
22:23:09 <Lish> lol
22:23:22 <Lish> Women are still at w disadvantage in the work place
22:23:26 <Lish> Don't overlook that
22:23:43 <Lish> Women in the majority of professions earn less than their male counterparts doing the same role
22:23:54 <Lish> But I don't agree with those types of women only forum things
22:24:00 <ajnin> cuase there is more risk and less ROI
22:24:00 <Lish> Why would that be fair
22:24:00 <Lish> In any world
22:24:00 <Lish> Risk? ROI?
22:24:00 <ajnin> return on investment
22:24:00 <Lish> What risk do they have hiring me?
22:24:00 <Lish> I know what it stands for
22:24:00 <ajnin> ok..
22:24:00 <ajnin> ok
22:24:00 <ajnin> just say I hire you
22:24:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ download this -> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/
22:25:00 <ajnin> and we sit and talk and your like my 5 year plan it to be the CIO
22:25:00 <ajnin> and your on track for it
22:25:00 <ajnin> and you would be a perfect fit
22:25:00 <ajnin> so you get hte job
22:25:00 <Lish> Mm
22:25:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu65QxqvEk
22:25:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Rainbow: Fluffy Rockin' ft. Choya & JosyCupcake (Jun 12, 2012) Length: 2:47 - Category: Entertainment - 6,974 views - 84 likes (92.3%), 7 dislikes (7.7%)
22:25:00 <ajnin> the next 2 years we spend money on you for training
22:25:00 <ajnin> and this and that
22:25:00 <ajnin> send you to the exec meetings
22:25:00 <ajnin> and your smahing it
22:25:00 <Warren1984> yeah I saw that yesterday Tigger_
22:25:00 <Lish> Your point isn't coming
22:25:00 <Warren1984> it's good
22:25:00 <ajnin> then bam.. you have a kid
22:25:01 <ajnin> maybe my problem is I think that kind of fair
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22:25:15 <ajnin> cuase there is more risk and less ROI
22:25:15 <Lish> Why would that be fair
22:25:20 <Lish> In any world
22:25:27 <Lish> Risk? ROI?
22:25:37 <ajnin> return on investment
22:25:39 <Lish> What risk do they have hiring me?
22:25:42 <Lish> I know what it stands for
22:25:46 <ajnin> ok..
22:25:48 <ajnin> ok
22:25:52 <ajnin> just say I hire you
22:25:58 <Warren1984> Tigger_ download this -> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/
22:26:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, watch it again
22:26:00 <ajnin> and you take 1 year off
22:26:00 <Lish> Then bam you get sick
22:26:00 <Lish> You leave
22:26:00 <Lish> You get hit by a bus
22:26:00 <ajnin> and then quit
22:26:00 <Lish> It's irrelevant
22:26:00 <ajnin> more people have kids than get hit by a bus
22:26:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ that reminds me of the rise night club
22:26:00 <ajnin> and so now my company is 3 years behind
22:26:00 <Lish> You're rewarded and recognised for the role you do now, the work you do, and people should be paid equally for the same role
22:26:00 <ajnin> and disavantaged
22:26:00 <Lish> ajnin, anyone could leave at any point and the company could be in the same position
22:26:06 <ajnin> and we sit and talk and your like my 5 year plan it to be the CIO
22:26:09 <ajnin> and your on track for it
22:26:14 <ajnin> and you would be a perfect fit
22:26:18 <ajnin> so you get hte job
22:26:30 <Lish> Mm
22:26:31 <Tigger_> Warren1984, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu65QxqvEk
22:26:35 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Rainbow: Fluffy Rockin' ft. Choya & JosyCupcake (Jun 12, 2012) Length: 2:47 - Category: Entertainment - 6,974 views - 84 likes (92.3%), 7 dislikes (7.7%)
22:26:38 <ajnin> the next 2 years we spend money on you for training
22:26:41 <ajnin> and this and that
22:26:48 <ajnin> send you to the exec meetings
22:26:50 <ajnin> and your smahing it
22:26:57 <Warren1984> yeah I saw that yesterday Tigger_
22:26:59 <Lish> Your point isn't coming
22:27:00 <ajnin> Lish yes and no
22:27:00 <Lish> You don't come up with your succession plans based on one resource
22:27:00 <Lish> That's key person failure, and terrible management
22:27:00 <ajnin> your right about the pay
22:27:00 <Lish> I may never want kids, the fact that I have internal organs that allow me to become pregnant shouldn't put me at a disadvantage
22:27:00 <ajnin> small and med companies kind of have to
22:27:00 <Lish> That is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard of
22:27:01 <Warren1984> it's good
22:27:02 <ajnin> then bam.. you have a kid
22:27:09 <Tigger_> Warren1984, watch it again
22:27:11 <ajnin> and you take 1 year off
22:27:12 <Lish> Then bam you get sick
22:27:13 <Lish> You leave
22:27:16 <Lish> You get hit by a bus
22:27:17 <ajnin> and then quit
22:27:19 <Lish> It's irrelevant
22:27:28 <ajnin> more people have kids than get hit by a bus
22:27:35 <Warren1984> Tigger_ that reminds me of the rise night club
22:27:40 <ajnin> and so now my company is 3 years behind
22:27:41 <Lish> You're rewarded and recognised for the role you do now, the work you do, and people should be paid equally for the same role
22:27:43 <ajnin> and disavantaged
22:27:57 <Lish> ajnin, anyone could leave at any point and the company could be in the same position
22:28:00 <ajnin> thats not my point
22:28:00 <Lish> You have no point
22:28:00 <ajnin> its the choice
22:28:00 <ajnin> maybe...
22:28:00 <Lish> You said it's fair that women aren't equals in the workplace
22:28:05 <ajnin> Lish yes and no
22:28:06 <Lish> You don't come up with your succession plans based on one resource
22:28:13 <Lish> That's key person failure, and terrible management
22:28:14 <ajnin> your right about the pay
22:28:41 <Lish> I may never want kids, the fact that I have internal organs that allow me to become pregnant shouldn't put me at a disadvantage
22:28:44 <ajnin> small and med companies kind of have to
22:28:51 <Lish> That is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard of
22:29:00 <Lish> Ok bed
22:29:00 <Lish> I'm freezing
22:29:00 <ajnin> i said kindof.. and not for all roles
22:29:00 <ajnin> women doing what I do get the same
22:29:00 <ajnin> and I think thats 100% fair
22:29:00 <Lish> How is me being born a women with the ability to have kids, something that should allow me to get less
22:29:00 <Lish> That is crazy
22:29:00 <ajnin> what I think is not fair is they have felixable hours and I dont
22:29:00 <ajnin> cause they have to pick up their kids and shit
22:29:00 <Lish> I also think that's unfair, I suffer the same thing
22:29:13 <ajnin> thats not my point
22:29:21 <Lish> You have no point
22:29:23 <ajnin> its the choice
22:29:27 <ajnin> maybe...
22:29:52 <Lish> You said it's fair that women aren't equals in the workplace
22:30:00 <ajnin> puts me at a disavntage casue I dont have real kids
22:30:00 <Lish> I'm a women with no kids
22:30:00 <Lish> And I don't get that too
22:30:00 <Lish> That's a problem with management, flexible arrangements should be for everyone
22:30:00 <Lish> I 100% agree with that and that's how i manage
22:30:00 <ajnin> weak management is a massive problem
22:30:00 <ajnin> a woman at my work just got the mad promo
22:30:00 <Warren1984> internet is going so slow for some reason
22:30:10 <ajnin> i said kindof.. and not for all roles
22:30:16 <ajnin> women doing what I do get the same
22:30:22 <ajnin> and I think thats 100% fair
22:30:24 <Lish> How is me being born a women with the ability to have kids, something that should allow me to get less
22:30:27 <Lish> That is crazy
22:30:38 <ajnin> what I think is not fair is they have felixable hours and I dont
22:30:48 <ajnin> cause they have to pick up their kids and shit
22:31:00 <ajnin> all the dudes in her team a cut
22:31:00 <Lish> She probably deserved it
22:31:00 <ajnin> that I dont get
22:31:00 <Lish> I often get promotions over men
22:31:00 <ajnin> cause she is better than them
22:31:00 <ajnin> Lish do you fell you ever got one over a dude cause your a chick
22:31:00 <ajnin> and you were both equal
22:31:02 <Lish> I also think that's unfair, I suffer the same thing
22:31:05 <ajnin> puts me at a disavntage casue I dont have real kids
22:31:06 <Lish> I'm a women with no kids
22:31:09 <Lish> And I don't get that too
22:31:18 <Lish> That's a problem with management, flexible arrangements should be for everyone
22:31:30 <Lish> I 100% agree with that and that's how i manage
22:31:31 <ajnin> weak management is a massive problem
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22:31:54 <ajnin> a woman at my work just got the mad promo
22:32:00 <ajnin> like if it was 2 dudes it would be a flip of a coin
22:32:00 <Lish> No way
22:32:00 <ajnin> but a dude vs a chick the chick gets it
22:32:00 <ajnin> ok.. cool
22:32:00 <Lish> I always get them because I'm bett
22:32:00 <Lish> Better
22:32:00 <ajnin> cause that would make me feel like shit
22:32:01 <Warren1984> internet is going so slow for some reason
22:32:04 <ajnin> all the dudes in her team a cut
22:32:14 <Lish> She probably deserved it
22:32:17 <ajnin> that I dont get
22:32:21 <Lish> I often get promotions over men
22:32:27 <ajnin> cause she is better than them
22:32:47 <ajnin> Lish do you fell you ever got one over a dude cause your a chick
22:32:51 <ajnin> and you were both equal
22:33:00 <ajnin> maybe I am sexist.. I guess I need to work on it
22:33:00 <ajnin> well sexist in the work place
22:33:00 <Lish> Yeah you are
22:33:00 <Lish> And it's not right
22:33:00 <ajnin> cause in life I am not
22:33:04 <ajnin> like if it was 2 dudes it would be a flip of a coin
22:33:11 <Lish> No way
22:33:14 <ajnin> but a dude vs a chick the chick gets it
22:33:17 <ajnin> ok.. cool
22:33:17 <Lish> I always get them because I'm bett
22:33:19 <Lish> Better
22:33:23 <ajnin> cause that would make me feel like shit
22:34:00 <ajnin> I think a man and a womans worth is the same
22:34:00 <ajnin> to me that boggles my mind
22:34:00 <ajnin> some some cunts think the life of a man is worth more
22:34:00 <ajnin> thats some barbian shit
22:34:29 <ajnin> maybe I am sexist.. I guess I need to work on it
22:34:50 <ajnin> well sexist in the work place
22:34:50 <Lish> Yeah you are
22:34:52 <Lish> And it's not right
22:34:56 <ajnin> cause in life I am not
22:35:19 <ajnin> I think a man and a womans worth is the same
22:35:33 <ajnin> to me that boggles my mind
22:35:45 <ajnin> some some cunts think the life of a man is worth more
22:35:54 <ajnin> thats some barbian shit
22:36:00 <Lish> Yeah
22:36:00 <Lish> Well try to think about how you think about the women in the workplace
22:36:00 <Lish> We are equal there too
22:36:00 <Lish> And most of them have it much harder than you will ever know
22:36:00 <Lish> To fight to be seen as equal
22:36:00 <ajnin> yea.. I have hired women before
22:37:00 <ajnin> I have never not done that
22:37:00 <ajnin> you know something I hate
22:37:00 <ajnin> people who think like me and there are heaps
22:37:00 <ajnin> but who will only say it behind closed doors to other guys
22:37:00 <ajnin> thats really fucked
22:37:00 <ajnin> without discussion they cant grow
22:37:09 <Lish> Yeah
22:37:22 <Lish> Well try to think about how you think about the women in the workplace
22:37:26 <Lish> We are equal there too
22:37:34 <Lish> And most of them have it much harder than you will ever know
22:37:38 <Lish> To fight to be seen as equal
22:37:55 <ajnin> yea.. I have hired women before
22:38:00 <ajnin> and they are scared to have it
22:38:00 <Lish> Yeah
22:38:00 <Lish> It's messed up
22:38:00 <ajnin> what do you think of a petea crelin
22:38:00 <ajnin> or whatever
22:38:00 <Lish> Who
22:38:00 <ajnin> that tony abbotts chef of staff
22:38:05 <ajnin> I have never not done that
22:38:17 <ajnin> you know something I hate
22:38:26 <ajnin> people who think like me and there are heaps
22:38:36 <ajnin> but who will only say it behind closed doors to other guys
22:38:40 <ajnin> thats really fucked
22:38:50 <ajnin> without discussion they cant grow
22:39:00 <Lish> Oh dunno, I don't know about these things
22:39:00 <ajnin> hrm
22:39:00 <ajnin> now I am thinking I might be more sexit that I think
22:39:00 <ajnin> and thats not good
22:39:05 <ajnin> and they are scared to have it
22:39:18 <Lish> Yeah
22:39:21 <Lish> It's messed up
22:39:37 <ajnin> what do you think of a petea crelin
22:39:39 <ajnin> or whatever
22:39:45 <Lish> Who
22:39:53 <ajnin> that tony abbotts chef of staff
22:40:00 <ajnin> I did some of them 360 reports
22:40:00 <ajnin> that showed I am not sexist
22:40:00 <ajnin> well my peers do not think so
22:40:00 <Lish> Might be wrong
22:40:00 <ajnin> its hard I guess..
22:40:00 <Lish> You sound sexist to me a bit
22:40:00 <ajnin> I am not sure.. maybe
22:40:00 <Lish> Maybe
22:40:00 <Lish> Well at least you're aware of it
22:40:00 <Lish> So you can work on it
22:40:00 <ajnin> i would never not hire someone who was a woman
22:40:00 <ajnin> but like I said
22:40:29 <Lish> Oh dunno, I don't know about these things
22:40:36 <ajnin> hrm
22:40:48 <ajnin> now I am thinking I might be more sexit that I think
22:40:52 <ajnin> and thats not good
22:41:00 <ajnin> I just think there is more risk to it
22:41:00 <Lish> Yeah that's good then, but there is no risk
22:41:00 <Lish> And you shouldn't even think about it
22:41:00 <ajnin> maybe
22:41:00 <Lish> It's irrelevant
22:41:00 <ajnin> i think your right on that
22:41:00 <ajnin> maybe i should request CV's with no school info or names
22:41:00 <ajnin> lol
22:41:08 <ajnin> I did some of them 360 reports
22:41:16 <ajnin> that showed I am not sexist
22:41:22 <ajnin> well my peers do not think so
22:41:28 <Lish> Might be wrong
22:41:28 <ajnin> its hard I guess..
22:41:32 <Lish> You sound sexist to me a bit
22:41:49 <ajnin> I am not sure.. maybe
22:41:52 <Lish> Maybe
22:41:56 <Lish> Well at least you're aware of it
22:42:00 <Lish> So you can work on it
22:42:00 <Lish> Probably wise
22:42:00 <Lish> Like the voice
22:42:00 <Lish> The tv show, they pick people based on talent. They don't see them.
22:42:00 <ajnin> its sorta like if you know someone has a crim record
22:42:00 <Lish> Anyway I have to go to bed now
22:42:00 <Lish> Before you? Which is odd lol
22:42:00 <ajnin> its hard not to add it to the mix when thinking of hiring
22:42:01 <ajnin> i would never not hire someone who was a woman
22:42:03 <ajnin> but like I said
22:42:09 <ajnin> I just think there is more risk to it
22:42:15 <Lish> Yeah that's good then, but there is no risk
22:42:20 <Lish> And you shouldn't even think about it
22:42:24 <ajnin> maybe
22:42:26 <Lish> It's irrelevant
22:42:29 <ajnin> i think your right on that
22:42:54 <ajnin> maybe i should request CV's with no school info or names
22:42:55 <ajnin> lol
22:43:00 <ajnin> yea.. I am working
22:43:00 <ajnin> or I would be in bed
22:43:00 <ajnin> good ngiht
22:43:00 <Lish> Ahhh okies
22:43:00 <Lish> Night :)
22:43:05 <Lish> Probably wise
22:43:12 <Lish> Like the voice
22:43:25 <Lish> The tv show, they pick people based on talent. They don't see them.
22:43:39 <ajnin> its sorta like if you know someone has a crim record
22:43:55 <Lish> Anyway I have to go to bed now
22:44:00 <Lish> Before you? Which is odd lol
22:44:01 <ajnin> its hard not to add it to the mix when thinking of hiring
22:44:07 <ajnin> yea.. I am working
22:44:10 <ajnin> or I would be in bed
22:44:13 <ajnin> good ngiht
22:44:19 <Lish> Ahhh okies
22:44:21 <Lish> Night :)
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23:08:00 <Warren1984> `kick Tigger_
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23:13:00 <President_Trump> Wisconsin Republican Presidential Primary Marquette Cruz 40, Trump 30, Kasich 21
23:14:10 <President_Trump> Wisconsin Republican Presidential Primary Marquette Cruz 40, Trump 30, Kasich 21
23:15:00 <Marttinn> where is brett
23:15:00 <Tigger_> yeah I saw that poll, but apparently only of 400 people, whereas the earlier one was 6,000
23:15:00 <Warren1984> just had a chicken kebab
23:16:00 <Warren1984> tig has being a pig when using up all the mig welding sticks
23:16:00 <Warren1984> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/ <- DOWNLOAD IT Tigger_
23:16:00 <Warren1984> or erlich WILL kick you in the STINKER
23:16:00 <Tigger_> what will I do with it?
23:16:07 <Tigger_> yeah I saw that poll, but apparently only of 400 people, whereas the earlier one was 6,000
23:16:14 <Warren1984> just had a chicken kebab
23:17:00 <Warren1984> optimize your computer
23:17:00 <Tigger_> though I am giving it to Cruz, as soon as I saw the demographics I knew Trump wouldn't go over well
23:17:15 <Warren1984> tig has being a pig when using up all the mig welding sticks
23:17:29 <Warren1984> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/ <- DOWNLOAD IT Tigger_
23:17:43 <Warren1984> or erlich WILL kick you in the STINKER
23:18:00 <screws> where is plivent
23:18:00 <President_Trump> cruz will get it
23:18:00 <President_Trump> the gop are stringing cruz along they hate him
23:18:02 <Tigger_> what will I do with it?
23:18:14 <Warren1984> optimize your computer
23:18:39 <Tigger_> though I am giving it to Cruz, as soon as I saw the demographics I knew Trump wouldn't go over well
23:19:00 <Tigger_> dunno
23:19:00 <Tigger_> where is circle?
23:19:00 <Tigger_> oh he has returned
23:19:00 <Tigger_> they might be trying to boost Cruz a bit to have leverage over Trump, "You can have the nomination, but Kasich will have to be your VP"
23:19:13 <President_Trump> cruz will get it
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23:19:37 <President_Trump> the gop are stringing cruz along they hate him
23:20:00 <Marttinn> lol
23:20:00 <President_Trump> they are telling them both they will get the nomination
23:20:00 <President_Trump> that is why kucksich is so happy lately
23:20:54 <Tigger_> they might be trying to boost Cruz a bit to have leverage over Trump, "You can have the nomination, but Kasich will have to be your VP"
23:21:00 <President_Trump> trumps not gunn make 1237
23:21:18 <President_Trump> they are telling them both they will get the nomination
23:21:24 <President_Trump> that is why kucksich is so happy lately
23:22:00 <Tigger_> we'll see, but Kasich as VP wouldn't be the worst outcome
23:22:15 <President_Trump> trumps not gunn make 1237
23:23:00 <Tigger_> on The Circus they finally got an interview with Hillary, that lasted about 10-15 seconds. this is after interviewing the other candidates at least once per episode, sometimes twice
23:23:16 <Tigger_> we'll see, but Kasich as VP wouldn't be the worst outcome
23:24:00 <Tigger_> she has two planes, one is for her and her inner circle, and she puts the journalists on the 2nd plane
23:24:47 <Tigger_> on The Circus they finally got an interview with Hillary, that lasted about 10-15 seconds. this is after interviewing the other candidates at least once per episode, sometimes twice
23:25:41 <Tigger_> she has two planes, one is for her and her inner circle, and she puts the journalists on the 2nd plane
23:26:00 <President_Trump> her planes are only small though arent they?
23:26:00 <President_Trump> probably hand picked journalists
23:26:00 <President_Trump> i think i havent watched it yet because ive seen the producer interviewed and hes anti trump
23:27:00 <Tigger_> there isn't any obvious bias in the show
23:27:04 <President_Trump> her planes are only small though arent they?
23:27:08 <President_Trump> probably hand picked journalists
23:27:37 <President_Trump> i think i havent watched it yet because ive seen the producer interviewed and hes anti trump
23:28:00 <Tigger_> the only bias would be anti-Hillary, for never being able to come within 40 metres of her, being ordered by her security to stand far back
23:28:32 <Tigger_> there isn't any obvious bias in the show
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23:29:52 <Tigger_> the only bias would be anti-Hillary, for never being able to come within 40 metres of her, being ordered by her security to stand far back
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23:30:00 <Tigger_> once Hillary's security made them walk up the street
23:30:00 <Warren1984> what is everyones plans for tomorrow
23:30:00 <Tigger_> because they were filming too close to where she was about to leave a building and get inside her vehicle
23:30:11 Nick: The_list_maker is now known as Warren1984
23:31:00 <President_Trump> it airs week to week so hillary's people mustnt like what they see in the show
23:31:00 <Tigger_> to play April Fool's jokes
23:31:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ lets take turns riding clip clop around Northbridge and slapping chicks arses
23:31:00 <Tigger_> and when they finally got some footage, it was just one second, at a great distance
23:31:29 <Tigger_> once Hillary's security made them walk up the street
23:31:58 <Warren1984> what is everyones plans for tomorrow
23:31:59 <Tigger_> because they were filming too close to where she was about to leave a building and get inside her vehicle
23:32:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ it would be cool to ride clip clop into a nightclub
23:32:00 <Warren1984> with a batton
23:32:00 <Tigger_> they did openly say that Kasich's campaign was pointless, and he was just wasting everyone's time
23:32:08 <President_Trump> it airs week to week so hillary's people mustnt like what they see in the show
23:32:10 <Tigger_> to play April Fool's jokes
23:32:31 <Warren1984> Tigger_ lets take turns riding clip clop around Northbridge and slapping chicks arses
23:32:48 <Tigger_> and when they finally got some footage, it was just one second, at a great distance
23:33:00 <President_Trump> hes fucked up everything winning ohio
23:33:24 <Warren1984> Tigger_ it would be cool to ride clip clop into a nightclub
23:33:28 <Warren1984> with a batton
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23:33:48 <Tigger_> they did openly say that Kasich's campaign was pointless, and he was just wasting everyone's time
23:34:56 <President_Trump> hes fucked up everything winning ohio
23:35:00 <Tigger_> oh and it's not just that Circus crew that can't get any facetime with Hillary, all media are blacklisted, same way she doesn't want to do any debates, she only does these very stage managed appearances
23:36:00 <Tigger_> if Kasich isn't insane, he's probably trying to have himself foisted on Trump as VP, the way Bush Snr was on Reagan
23:36:00 <mrwuf> which candidate wins on sex appeal do you think?
23:36:00 <Tigger_> Trump
23:36:16 <Tigger_> oh and it's not just that Circus crew that can't get any facetime with Hillary, all media are blacklisted, same way she doesn't want to do any debates, she only does these very stage managed appearances
23:37:00 <mrwuf> among the gay republicans?
23:37:00 <Tigger_> explains everything: http://i.pgatour.com/image/upload/b_rgb:000000,c_pad,f_auto,h_492,q_80,w_830/v1/pgatour/editorial/2015/03/06/ModelSearchGallery/Models4.jpg
23:37:00 <Tigger_> but yes, gay republicans too
23:37:05 <Tigger_> if Kasich isn't insane, he's probably trying to have himself foisted on Trump as VP, the way Bush Snr was on Reagan
23:37:27 <mrwuf> which candidate wins on sex appeal do you think?
23:37:34 <Tigger_> Trump
23:38:10 <mrwuf> among the gay republicans?
23:38:26 <Tigger_> explains everything: http://i.pgatour.com/image/upload/b_rgb:000000,c_pad,f_auto,h_492,q_80,w_830/v1/pgatour/editorial/2015/03/06/ModelSearchGallery/Models4.jpg
23:38:31 <Tigger_> but yes, gay republicans too
23:39:00 <mrwuf> do you suspect trump might be gay or part bisexual
23:40:00 <Tigger_> not even remotely
23:40:00 <Tigger_> he has none of the gay facial features
23:40:00 <mrwuf> what are the gay facial features
23:40:54 <mrwuf> do you suspect trump might be gay or part bisexual
23:41:00 <Tigger_> feminine eyes combined with strong, masculine jaw
23:41:00 <Tigger_> also on his sexiness: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151229111157-donald-trump-good-looking-super-169.jpg
23:41:00 <mrwuf> doh ok who's an example of a gay face
23:41:09 <Tigger_> not even remotely
23:41:18 <Tigger_> he has none of the gay facial features
23:41:47 <mrwuf> what are the gay facial features
23:42:00 <mrwuf> hmm I don't see it
23:42:06 <Tigger_> feminine eyes combined with strong, masculine jaw
23:42:52 <Tigger_> also on his sexiness: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151229111157-donald-trump-good-looking-super-169.jpg
23:42:58 <mrwuf> doh ok who's an example of a gay face
23:43:00 <mrwuf> bad haircut, whinny voice, non coherent sentences
23:43:00 <mrwuf> tiny hands
23:43:00 <mrwuf> slightly obese
23:43:00 <Warren1984> Hiren bootCD seems to have a lot of cool things in it
23:43:00 <mrwuf> old++
23:43:00 <Tigger_> Liberace had it: http://marcmyers.typepad.com/.a/6a00e008dca1f088340133f4692d72970b-350wi
23:43:41 <mrwuf> hmm I don't see it
23:44:00 <mrwuf> he's blurred the lines between reality tv and democracy
23:44:21 <mrwuf> bad haircut, whinny voice, non coherent sentences
23:44:30 <mrwuf> tiny hands
23:44:35 <mrwuf> slightly obese
23:44:37 <Warren1984> Hiren bootCD seems to have a lot of cool things in it
23:44:39 <mrwuf> old++
23:44:54 <Tigger_> Liberace had it: http://marcmyers.typepad.com/.a/6a00e008dca1f088340133f4692d72970b-350wi
23:45:00 <Tigger_> the alleged incoherent sentences are examples of NLP
23:45:00 <mrwuf> nlp?
23:45:00 <Tigger_> neuro linguistic programming
23:45:37 <mrwuf> he's blurred the lines between reality tv and democracy
23:46:00 <mrwuf> nah
23:46:00 <mrwuf> he's more like abe simpson
23:46:21 <Tigger_> the alleged incoherent sentences are examples of NLP
23:46:32 <mrwuf> nlp?
23:46:49 <Tigger_> neuro linguistic programming
23:47:00 <Tigger_> Ted Cruz has his own persuasion methods, from the megachurches that his father preaches at
23:47:00 <mrwuf> yea he's a creep
23:47:05 <mrwuf> nah
23:47:20 <mrwuf> he's more like abe simpson
23:48:00 <mrwuf> rubio seems too young
23:48:46 <Tigger_> Ted Cruz has his own persuasion methods, from the megachurches that his father preaches at
23:49:00 <mrwuf> yea he's a creep
23:49:00 <Tigger_> Rubio has been out for awhile now
23:49:00 <mrwuf> I must of missed a few episodes
23:49:00 <mrwuf> when was rubio voted off the island
23:49:52 <mrwuf> rubio seems too young
23:50:00 <President_Trump> lol
23:50:00 <Tigger_> a few weeks ago
23:50:10 <Tigger_> Rubio has been out for awhile now
23:50:28 <mrwuf> I must of missed a few episodes
23:50:57 <mrwuf> when was rubio voted off the island
23:51:00 <Tigger_> Cruz probably has the highest IQ in this election after Trump, it's his personality defects that are his problem
23:51:08 <President_Trump> lol
23:51:09 <Tigger_> a few weeks ago
23:52:00 <mrwuf> do you think its trumps high IQ or sex appeal thats winning him so much attention
23:52:44 <Tigger_> Cruz probably has the highest IQ in this election after Trump, it's his personality defects that are his problem
23:53:00 <Tigger_> his IQ
23:53:00 <Tigger_> he always finds the counterintuitive angle that puts him in front
23:53:00 <mrwuf> appeals to base emotions like fear
23:53:51 <mrwuf> do you think its trumps high IQ or sex appeal thats winning him so much attention
23:54:00 <President_Trump> loollllllllllllllllllll
23:54:00 <Tigger_> if a monkey has their right amygdila surgically removed, they lose all sense of fear, and will play with snakes
23:54:00 <mrwuf> history has lessons about demagogic leaders that arouse fear of foreigners to get into elected office, bad lessons
23:54:04 <Tigger_> his IQ
23:54:30 <Tigger_> he always finds the counterintuitive angle that puts him in front
23:54:44 <mrwuf> appeals to base emotions like fear
23:55:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf fears trump
23:55:00 <mrwuf> he certainly has a cult of personality, like most reality tv stars... he actually has a lot in common with paris hilton, except she's more successful at business
23:55:42 <Tigger_> if a monkey has their right amygdila surgically removed, they lose all sense of fear, and will play with snakes
23:55:52 <mrwuf> history has lessons about demagogic leaders that arouse fear of foreigners to get into elected office, bad lessons
23:56:00 <Tigger_> psychopaths are noted for having very small right amygdalas
23:56:00 <President_Trump> hahaha
23:56:00 <mrwuf> maybe she'll run in 2020
23:56:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf the big clive palmer supporter
23:56:00 <Tigger_> Paris Hilton is quite smart
23:56:37 <President_Trump> mrwuf fears trump
23:56:46 <mrwuf> he certainly has a cult of personality, like most reality tv stars... he actually has a lot in common with paris hilton, except she's more successful at business
23:57:00 <mrwuf> maybe trump should release a sex vid
23:57:00 <Tigger_> she didn't release a sex video, it was done to her
23:57:00 <Warren1984> barts stuff test
23:57:00 <mrwuf> there was no hidden camera tho her boyfriend made it with her consent
23:57:04 <Tigger_> psychopaths are noted for having very small right amygdalas
23:57:06 <President_Trump> hahaha
23:57:13 <mrwuf> maybe she'll run in 2020
23:57:25 <President_Trump> mrwuf the big clive palmer supporter
23:57:30 <Tigger_> Paris Hilton is quite smart
23:58:00 <President_Trump> why did you choose paris hilton and not the kardashians?
23:58:04 <mrwuf> maybe trump should release a sex vid
23:58:22 <Tigger_> she didn't release a sex video, it was done to her
23:58:25 <Warren1984> barts stuff test
23:58:49 <mrwuf> there was no hidden camera tho her boyfriend made it with her consent
23:59:00 <Warren1984> President_Trump do you make Frequent use of lists?
23:59:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf would you ever have a black wife?
23:59:16 <President_Trump> why did you choose paris hilton and not the kardashians?
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