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00:00 <abalone> ^ too much for her to handle
00:52 Quit: Lish ([email protected]) Connection closed
01:37 <abalone> ^ too much for her to handle
06:00 <mrwuf> https://np.reddit.com/r/TheDepthsBelow/comments/4bk0vq/former_saturation_diver_here/
07:22 <mrwuf> https://np.reddit.com/r/TheDepthsBelow/comments/4bk0vq/former_saturation_diver_here/
09:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATjVHUbPusk
09:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Carmina Burana - O Fortuna (Digital Mindz Bootleg) [FREE] [HD+HQ] (Jan 22, 2016) Length: 2:06 - Category: Music - 2,797 views - 98 likes (94.2%), 6 dislikes (5.8%)
10:16 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATjVHUbPusk
10:20 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Carmina Burana - O Fortuna (Digital Mindz Bootleg) [FREE] [HD+HQ] (Jan 22, 2016) Length: 2:06 - Category: Music - 2,797 views - 98 likes (94.2%), 6 dislikes (5.8%)
11:00 <Warren1984> this has Jen's name name in it -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8eDyCRa0mY
11:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Static Revenger & Richard Vission ft. LUCIANA 'I Like That' (Jun 16, 2009) Length: 2:33 - Category: Entertainment - 12,966,419 views - 56,547 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
11:00 <Warren1984> last name
12:00 <Warren1984> Jen's last name -> https://youtu.be/x8eDyCRa0mY?t=21
12:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Static Revenger & Richard Vission ft. LUCIANA 'I Like That' (Jun 16, 2009) Length: 2:33 - Category: Entertainment - 12,966,419 views - 56,547 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
12:11 <Warren1984> this has Jen's name name in it -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8eDyCRa0mY
12:15 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Static Revenger & Richard Vission ft. LUCIANA 'I Like That' (Jun 16, 2009) Length: 2:33 - Category: Entertainment - 12,966,419 views - 56,547 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
12:15 <Warren1984> last name
12:41 Nick: DuckDodgers is now known as RomanReigns
12:59 Quit: abalone ([email protected]) Z-Lined
13:05 <Warren1984> Jen's last name -> https://youtu.be/x8eDyCRa0mY?t=21
13:09 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Static Revenger & Richard Vission ft. LUCIANA 'I Like That' (Jun 16, 2009) Length: 2:33 - Category: Entertainment - 12,966,419 views - 56,547 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
15:00 <mrwuf> good song
15:00 <Warren1984> Jen -> https://youtu.be/x8eDyCRa0mY?t=21
15:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Static Revenger & Richard Vission ft. LUCIANA 'I Like That' (Jun 16, 2009) Length: 2:33 - Category: Entertainment - 12,966,419 views - 56,547 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
15:00 <mrwuf> something political related;Many assume that these fighters are motivated by a belief in the Islamic State, a caliphate ruled by a caliph; that fighters all over the world are flocking to the area for a chance to fight for this dream. But this just doesnt hold for the prisoners we are interviewing. They are woefully ignorant about Islam and have difficulty answering questions about Sharia law, militant jihad, and the caliphate.
15:00 <mrwuf> source https://np.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/4bw5vz/free_talk_friday/d1cwt9g
15:37 Join: anotherirc3r ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
15:56 <mrwuf> good song
16:00 <anotherirc3r> ugh. this lag is pretty bad
16:00 <Warren1984> try firefox
16:07 <Warren1984> Jen -> https://youtu.be/x8eDyCRa0mY?t=21
16:12 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Static Revenger & Richard Vission ft. LUCIANA 'I Like That' (Jun 16, 2009) Length: 2:33 - Category: Entertainment - 12,966,419 views - 56,547 likes (98.1%), dislikes (1.9%)
16:39 <mrwuf> something political related;Many assume that these fighters are motivated by a belief in the Islamic State, a caliphate ruled by a caliph; that fighters all over the world are flocking to the area for a chance to fight for this dream. But this just doesnt hold for the prisoners we are interviewing. They are woefully ignorant about Islam and have difficulty answering questions about Sharia law, militant jihad, and the caliphate.
16:49 <mrwuf> source https://np.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/4bw5vz/free_talk_friday/d1cwt9g
16:52 <anotherirc3r> ugh. this lag is pretty bad
17:00 <Warren1984> Bianka is singing the song
17:00 <anotherirc3r> even IRC feels lagged
17:25 <Warren1984> try firefox
18:00 <mrwuf> check your memory status... possibly paging the swap file, got any large files open?
18:00 <mrwuf> I'm assuming here you mean applications are slow rather than connections, could be wrong
18:00 <anotherirc3r> like what?
18:02 <Warren1984> Bianka is singing the song
18:11 <anotherirc3r> even IRC feels lagged
18:55 <mrwuf> check your memory status... possibly paging the swap file, got any large files open?
19:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm not sure to be honest
19:00 <mrwuf> Im on 10kb/s roughly and IRC still runs fine so try hitting Ctrl + Alt + Del and opening Task Manager
19:40 <mrwuf> I'm assuming here you mean applications are slow rather than connections, could be wrong
19:42 <anotherirc3r> like what?
20:00 <Ozone> load less porn
20:00 <President_Trump> irc should run easy on 1kb/s or less
20:00 <Ozone> you shouldn't try watching more than 14 simultaneous porn streams
20:00 <anotherirc3r> ohh.. that must be my mistake
20:00 <mrwuf> heh
20:30 <anotherirc3r> i'm not sure to be honest
20:39 <mrwuf> Im on 10kb/s roughly and IRC still runs fine so try hitting Ctrl + Alt + Del and opening Task Manager
21:00 <President_Trump> jen close down the animal porn
21:00 <Ozone> easy mistake to make
21:00 <President_Trump> you sick fuck
21:00 <anotherirc3r> haha
21:00 <anotherirc3r> Lish left?
21:00 <anotherirc3r> and our friend Jerome?
21:00 <Ozone> yeah they saw you leave and decided there was no point staying
21:00 <Ozone> obviously very lonely people
21:02 <Ozone> load less porn
21:38 <President_Trump> irc should run easy on 1kb/s or less
21:42 <Ozone> you shouldn't try watching more than 14 simultaneous porn streams
21:46 <anotherirc3r> ohh.. that must be my mistake
21:48 <mrwuf> heh
22:00 <President_Trump> jen close down the animal porn
22:00 <Ozone> maybe one day they;ll discover each other
22:00 <anotherirc3r> lol i'm sure
22:00 <anotherirc3r> how sweet
22:00 <Ozone> its romcom bullshit territory
22:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ told Lish to get fucked and banned her
22:03 <Ozone> easy mistake to make
22:05 <President_Trump> you sick fuck
22:13 <anotherirc3r> haha
22:25 <anotherirc3r> Lish left?
22:29 <anotherirc3r> and our friend Jerome?
22:43 <Ozone> yeah they saw you leave and decided there was no point staying
22:50 <Ozone> obviously very lonely people
23:00 <Ozone> Tigger_ Is both a scholar and a gentleman
23:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is a brute
23:00 <Warren1984> cold ruthless serial killer
23:01 <Ozone> maybe one day they;ll discover each other
23:02 <anotherirc3r> lol i'm sure
23:32 <anotherirc3r> how sweet
23:45 <Ozone> its romcom bullshit territory
23:50 <Warren1984> Tigger_ told Lish to get fucked and banned her
24:05 <Ozone> Tigger_ Is both a scholar and a gentleman
24:29 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is a brute
24:37 <Warren1984> cold ruthless serial killer
26:00 <mrwuf> who do you think is the most terrifying serial killer?
26:00 <mrwuf> heres my pick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton
26:00 <anotherirc3r> haha
27:00 <anotherirc3r> ohh.. i think chrome is lagged
27:00 <anotherirc3r> whyyyy?
27:08 <mrwuf> who do you think is the most terrifying serial killer?
27:43 <mrwuf> heres my pick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton
27:47 <anotherirc3r> haha
27:55 <anotherirc3r> ohh.. i think chrome is lagged
27:58 <anotherirc3r> whyyyy?
33:00 <Warren1984> dunno
33:00 <anotherirc3r> or wifi
33:00 <anotherirc3r> i don't bloody know!
33:00 <President_Trump> use IE
33:59 <Warren1984> dunno
34:00 <anotherirc3r> yuck, no
34:19 <anotherirc3r> or wifi
34:23 <anotherirc3r> i don't bloody know!
34:41 <President_Trump> use IE
35:00 <mrwuf> I'm reading harry potter wikia
35:31 <anotherirc3r> yuck, no
36:00 <Warren1984> Jen maybe you need to restart
36:00 <mrwuf> the books and movies never held much interest 
36:00 <anotherirc3r> i did before :/
36:50 <mrwuf> I'm reading harry potter wikia
37:00 <Warren1984> king punch the monitor
37:22 <Warren1984> Jen maybe you need to restart
37:38 <mrwuf> the books and movies never held much interest
37:43 <anotherirc3r> i did before :/
38:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_lhIaZOXI
38:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Aaliyah - Try Again(720pHD) (Sep 29, 2009) Length: 3:57 - Category: Music - 8,441,506 views - 34,322 likes (98%), dislikes (2%)
38:47 <Warren1984> king punch the monitor
39:05 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_lhIaZOXI
39:09 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Aaliyah - Try Again(720pHD) (Sep 29, 2009) Length: 3:57 - Category: Music - 8,441,506 views - 34,322 likes (98%), dislikes (2%)
45:06 Join: aviatrix ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
47:00 <xm> the most ruthless killer is clip clop
47:00 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXeM1VC5bFo
47:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: When Horses ATTACK! A compilation by Uberretroguy (May 27, 2014) Length: 2:08 - Category: People & Blogs - 154,760 views - 337 likes (72.6%), 127 dislikes (27.4%)
47:00 <xm> do you agree Warren1984 ?
48:00 <xm> well, Warren1984 ?
48:00 <Warren1984> yes
48:00 <Warren1984> clip clop has a cat launcher
48:12 <xm> the most ruthless killer is clip clop
48:14 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXeM1VC5bFo
48:18 <BlackDevil> Youtube: When Horses ATTACK! A compilation by Uberretroguy (May 27, 2014) Length: 2:08 - Category: People & Blogs - 154,760 views - 337 likes (72.6%), 127 dislikes (27.4%)
48:47 <xm> do you agree Warren1984 ?
48:56 <xm> well, Warren1984 ?
49:26 <Warren1984> yes
49:38 <Warren1984> clip clop has a cat launcher
55:00 <anotherirc3r> hi cherri_pie
55:07 Join: mack10 ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
56:03 <anotherirc3r> hi cherri_pie
57:00 <Warren1984> we should get cat launchers and walk around the shops shooting cats at people
58:31 <Warren1984> we should get cat launchers and walk around the shops shooting cats at people
58:37 Join: poppin ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
01:00 <doctor> good idea
01:00 <poppin> what
01:00 <poppin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSENj8STW68
01:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 150 BPM TRANCE MUSIC OF GOD 2016 ALISID STAXX TRAXX (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 6:33 - Category: Music - 11 views views - 2 likes (100%), dislikes (0%)
01:00 <RomanReigns> LOLOLOLOL
01:00 <RomanReigns> pissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
01:00 <RomanReigns> sup junkie
01:51 <doctor> good idea
01:55 <poppin> what
02:00 <poppin> what
02:00 <poppin> is pissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
02:00 <poppin> i fried
02:00 <poppin> is pisS?
02:00 <RomanReigns> come cunt
02:00 <RomanReigns> come
02:00 <RomanReigns> lolololol
02:01 <poppin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSENj8STW68
02:04 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 150 BPM TRANCE MUSIC OF GOD 2016 ALISID STAXX TRAXX (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 6:33 - Category: Music - 11 views views - 2 likes (100%), dislikes (0%)
02:32 <RomanReigns> LOLOLOLOL
02:36 <RomanReigns> pissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
02:42 <RomanReigns> sup junkie
03:00 <poppin> what
03:00 <poppin> lols
03:00 <poppin> poop a streak a duck shit
03:05 <poppin> is pissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
03:24 <poppin> i fried
03:31 <poppin> is pisS?
03:42 <RomanReigns> come cunt
03:45 <RomanReigns> come
03:48 <RomanReigns> lolololol
03:53 <poppin> lols
04:00 <poppin> lols\
04:00 <poppin> ..././/...>>>
04:00 <poppin> .../ / / / \\\\\
04:49 <poppin> poop a streak a duck shit
05:00 <President_Trump> poppin make a video
05:00 <poppin> nah man
05:00 <poppin> i died
05:00 <poppin> cant do videos
05:00 <poppin> bed ridden
05:06 <poppin> lols\
05:20 <poppin> ..././/...>>>
05:32 <poppin> .../ / / / \\\\\
06:00 <anotherirc3r> why? what happened?
06:00 <poppin> you came over
06:00 <poppin> so i am bed ridden
06:08 <President_Trump> poppin make a video
06:27 <poppin> nah man
06:29 <poppin> i died
06:39 <poppin> cant do videos
06:43 <poppin> bed ridden
07:00 <poppin> hi anotherirc3r
07:00 <poppin> argh
07:00 <anotherirc3r> err
07:00 <poppin> err
07:00 <poppin> lols
07:00 <poppin> ?
07:10 <anotherirc3r> why? what happened?
07:31 <poppin> you came over
07:39 <poppin> so i am bed ridden
08:21 <poppin> hi anotherirc3r
08:31 <poppin> argh
08:35 <anotherirc3r> err
08:37 <poppin> err
08:41 <poppin> lols
08:43 <poppin> ?
09:00 <poppin> jen
09:00 <poppin> why are u on tinder
09:00 <poppin> lols at u
09:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o_B5U00FKQ
09:00 <anotherirc3r> just to see if i know anyone lol
09:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Memorax - Revival (Radio Edit) (Feb 16, 2016) Length: 4:03 - Category: Music - 1,688 views - likes (94.4%), 6 dislikes (5.6%)
09:52 <poppin> jen
10:00 <poppin> no cause u suck
10:00 <poppin> grow up
10:00 <anotherirc3r> umm.. what?
10:00 <poppin> why hide from me
10:00 <poppin> like
10:05 <poppin> why are u on tinder
10:17 <poppin> lols at u
10:30 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o_B5U00FKQ
10:32 <anotherirc3r> just to see if i know anyone lol
10:34 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Memorax - Revival (Radio Edit) (Feb 16, 2016) Length: 4:03 - Category: Music - 1,688 views - likes (94.4%), 6 dislikes (5.6%)
10:51 <poppin> no cause u suck
10:56 <poppin> grow up
11:00 <poppin> wtf
11:00 <poppin> fucken
11:00 <President_Trump> poppin
11:00 <President_Trump> jen is with me now
11:00 <President_Trump> leave her alone
11:00 <President_Trump> we are happy
11:00 <poppin> jen die and goto hell you heart breaker
11:00 <poppin> to
11:00 <poppin> go
11:00 <Ozone> lol
11:29 <anotherirc3r> umm.. what?
11:41 <poppin> why hide from me
11:50 <poppin> like
11:52 <poppin> wtf
12:00 <poppin> Ozone
12:00 <RomanReigns> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
12:00 <poppin> u too
12:00 <poppin> hi
12:00 <Warren1984> poppin leave Jen alone
12:00 <Ozone> lol
12:00 <poppin> oi
12:00 <poppin> u faggot
12:00 <poppin> directed
12:00 <poppin> at
12:00 <poppin> some cunt
12:00 <poppin> lols
12:02 <poppin> fucken
12:09 <President_Trump> poppin
12:11 <President_Trump> jen is with me now
12:14 <President_Trump> leave her alone
12:16 <President_Trump> we are happy
12:39 <poppin> jen die and goto hell you heart breaker
12:44 <poppin> to
12:47 <poppin> go
12:47 <Ozone> lol
12:55 <poppin> Ozone
12:57 <RomanReigns> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
12:58 <poppin> u too
13:00 <RomanReigns> lololol
13:01 <poppin> hi
13:06 <Warren1984> poppin leave Jen alone
13:07 <Ozone> lol
13:16 <poppin> oi
13:19 <poppin> u faggot
13:22 <poppin> directed
13:23 <poppin> at
13:26 <poppin> some cunt
13:34 <poppin> lols
13:55 <RomanReigns> lololol
14:00 <anotherirc3r> what the hell?
14:03 Quit: cita ([email protected]) Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com
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15:00 <doctor> he been drinking
15:00 <Ozone> cadburys
15:42 <anotherirc3r> what the hell?
16:00 <mrwuf> merry easter
16:14 <doctor> he been drinking
16:22 <Ozone> cadburys
17:46 <mrwuf> merry easter
18:00 <doctor> Have a choccy for Jesus!
19:00 <anotherirc3r> no. i'll have it for me
19:00 <doctor> poor Jesus
19:18 <doctor> Have a choccy for Jesus!
19:59 <anotherirc3r> no. i'll have it for me
20:42 <doctor> poor Jesus
25:00 <mrwuf> mmm skull crushers!!
25:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah4AH9FsMlM
25:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tektones - Electronics (HQ+HD FREE RELEASE) (Feb 12, 2016) Length: 5:48 - Category: People & Blogs - 101 views views - likes (85.7%), 1 dislikes (14.3%)
25:56 <mrwuf> mmm skull crushers!!
26:29 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah4AH9FsMlM
26:33 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tektones - Electronics (HQ+HD FREE RELEASE) (Feb 12, 2016) Length: 5:48 - Category: People & Blogs - 101 views views - likes (85.7%), 1 dislikes (14.3%)
31:00 <Warren1984> yay chrome is working again
32:48 <Warren1984> yay chrome is working again
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25:00 <Warren1984> ey erlich
25:30 Nick: xm is now known as erlich
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26:00 <Warren1984> I feel like some salami
26:44 <Warren1984> ey erlich
26:55 <Warren1984> I feel like some salami
27:00 <erlich> are you implying you want to make salami out of clip clop?
27:00 <erlich> that is very psychopath
27:00 <erlich> are you goign to talk to your doctor about this
27:00 <anotherirc3r> how morbid
28:02 <erlich> are you implying you want to make salami out of clip clop?
28:07 <erlich> that is very psychopath
28:14 <erlich> are you goign to talk to your doctor about this
28:43 <anotherirc3r> how morbid
30:00 <Warren1984> Jen my Dad gave me a book called "difficult personalities"
30:00 <Warren1984> much of it sounds like MBTI/Enneagram
30:00 <erlich> did you say, "thanks dad. now i can understand you beter"
30:57 <Warren1984> Jen my Dad gave me a book called "difficult personalities"
31:00 <doctor> lol
31:15 <Warren1984> much of it sounds like MBTI/Enneagram
31:19 <erlich> did you say, "thanks dad. now i can understand you beter"
32:00 <erlich> im glad doctor is aroudn to enjoy the dark side
32:00 <doctor> People become more tolerable when you let them be themselves, that is unless their usual selves are toxic to your own well being
32:30 <doctor> lol
33:00 <erlich> doctor, it's boxing day
33:00 <erlich> have you got any new years resolutions?
33:00 <doctor> When people think there's something wrong with you, they actively try to fix you
33:00 <doctor> Nah
33:00 <doctor> Maybe clip my toenails
33:05 <erlich> im glad doctor is aroudn to enjoy the dark side
33:29 <doctor> People become more tolerable when you let them be themselves, that is unless their usual selves are toxic to your own well being
33:52 <erlich> doctor, it's boxing day
34:00 <Warren1984> are you going to box someone on boxing day, by giving them a swift kick box to the head?
34:00 <erlich> lol Warren1984 
34:00 <doctor> hey man, Im a lover not a fighter
34:00 <doctor> Peace n love for errybody
34:00 <Warren1984> the problem is with these personality types is none of them give answers
34:03 <erlich> have you got any new years resolutions?
34:07 <doctor> When people think there's something wrong with you, they actively try to fix you
34:18 <doctor> Nah
34:35 <doctor> Maybe clip my toenails
34:54 <Warren1984> are you going to box someone on boxing day, by giving them a swift kick box to the head?
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35:00 <Warren1984> it's just a holistic analysis
35:00 <Warren1984> it's like if you like structure and routine too much you become boring
35:00 <doctor> yeah, which makes it unscientific
35:00 <Warren1984> if you live carefree you can damage your body and develop addictions
35:00 <doctor> so it can't be called a medicine
35:00 <Warren1984> and not complete much
35:14 <erlich> lol Warren1984
35:15 <doctor> hey man, Im a lover not a fighter
35:20 <doctor> Peace n love for errybody
35:43 <Warren1984> the problem is with these personality types is none of them give answers
35:53 <Warren1984> it's just a holistic analysis
36:00 <Warren1984> no because Psychiatrist see things holistically as well
36:00 <doctor> If you like structure and routine then you should stick with it
36:00 <Warren1984> when I was deciding if I should go to 1 psychiatrist or the other
36:00 <doctor> Then they're being quacks rather than doctors
36:00 <Warren1984> the 1 said I need to be holistic
36:00 <Warren1984> no because Psychiatry is not purely scientific
36:10 <Warren1984> it's like if you like structure and routine too much you become boring
36:25 <doctor> yeah, which makes it unscientific
36:30 <Warren1984> if you live carefree you can damage your body and develop addictions
36:34 <doctor> so it can't be called a medicine
36:35 <Warren1984> and not complete much
36:58 <Warren1984> no because Psychiatrist see things holistically as well
37:06 <doctor> If you like structure and routine then you should stick with it
37:17 <Warren1984> when I was deciding if I should go to 1 psychiatrist or the other
37:21 <doctor> Then they're being quacks rather than doctors
37:25 <Warren1984> the 1 said I need to be holistic
37:45 <Warren1984> no because Psychiatry is not purely scientific
38:00 <mrwuf> warren have you heard of the term self actualisation before http://brainmeta.com/index.php?p=self-actualization
38:00 <mrwuf> may be of interest?
39:00 <mrwuf> warren have you heard of the term self actualisation before http://brainmeta.com/index.php?p=self-actualization
39:00 <doctor> What problems would you like to resolve Warren?
39:20 <mrwuf> may be of interest?
40:34 <doctor> What problems would you like to resolve Warren?
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44:00 <Warren1984> my inefficient use of time
45:00 <Warren1984> the thing is there may be no problems but your mind just generates something to worry about
45:42 <Warren1984> my inefficient use of time
46:33 <Warren1984> the thing is there may be no problems but your mind just generates something to worry about
47:00 <mrwuf> worring is wasted energy that solves nothing, act or accept - those are the choices in every situation 
48:00 <mrwuf> one day we will die, thats the only certainly life offers... theres a quote; to fear death is to misunderstand life
48:01 <mrwuf> worring is wasted energy that solves nothing, act or accept - those are the choices in every situation
48:52 <mrwuf> one day we will die, thats the only certainly life offers... theres a quote; to fear death is to misunderstand life
50:00 <mrwuf> focus your energies elsewhere on more productive activities whenever catching yourself worrying, our mind works similar to a radio and what we tune ourselves onto becomes the point of our attention
51:00 <anotherirc3r> that's very black and white mrwuf
51:00 <mrwuf> regarding the choices act or accept? what other option is there
51:11 <mrwuf> focus your energies elsewhere on more productive activities whenever catching yourself worrying, our mind works similar to a radio and what we tune ourselves onto becomes the point of our attention
52:00 <anotherirc3r> people don't worry because they want to
52:00 <norry> where is that fucking weak cunt
52:00 <mrwuf> our attitudes largely determine our experience
52:00 <norry> shut up u fucking faggot mrwuf
52:00 <norry> ur still going
52:04 <anotherirc3r> that's very black and white mrwuf
52:24 <mrwuf> regarding the choices act or accept? what other option is there
52:55 <anotherirc3r> people don't worry because they want to
53:00 <anotherirc3r> that's true to a certain degree
53:00 <mrwuf> if your going on a date, as an example, if you allow your mind to imagine all the things that can go possibly wrong in that situation you will make yourself into a nervous wreck.. now imagine instead of worrying you focus your imagination to what a successful and fun date might look like, already you are creating the experience 
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53:30 <norry> where is that fucking weak cunt
53:34 <mrwuf> our attitudes largely determine our experience
53:46 <norry> shut up u fucking faggot mrwuf
53:48 <norry> ur still going
54:00 <norry> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
54:00 <norry> mrwuf do you remember what we were saying not long ago?
54:00 <norry> this evening?
54:00 <norry> about you crapping on about mental patient shit through the hours of the morning
54:00 <norry> <mrwuf> if your going on a date, as an example, if you allow your mind to imagine all the things that can go possibly wrong in that situation you will make yourself into a nervous wreck.. now imagine instead of worrying you focus your imagination to what a successful and fun date might look like, already you are creating the experience  < LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
54:00 <norry> LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
54:00 <Warren1984> somethings are good to worry about because a little anxiety helps motivate us
54:00 <anotherirc3r> obviously mrwuf but i just said that people don't worry because they WANT to
54:00 <Warren1984> but it's not good to constantly worry
54:00 <norry> none of you losers go on dates with girls
54:00 <mrwuf> ah anotherirc3r but what do you control if you cannot control yourself?
54:00 <norry> for fucks sake
54:00 <norry> stop your spastic shit
54:03 <anotherirc3r> that's true to a certain degree
54:29 <mrwuf> if your going on a date, as an example, if you allow your mind to imagine all the things that can go possibly wrong in that situation you will make yourself into a nervous wreck.. now imagine instead of worrying you focus your imagination to what a successful and fun date might look like, already you are creating the experience
54:51 <norry> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
54:59 <norry> mrwuf do you remember what we were saying not long ago?
55:00 <Warren1984> nite all
55:00 <mrwuf> the only thing you can control is yourself, many people do not seem to possess this awareness
55:00 <norry> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
55:00 <anotherirc3r> do people who have anxiety able to control themselves?
55:01 <norry> this evening?
55:11 <norry> about you crapping on about mental patient shit through the hours of the morning
55:19 <norry> <mrwuf> if your going on a date, as an example, if you allow your mind to imagine all the things that can go possibly wrong in that situation you will make yourself into a nervous wreck.. now imagine instead of worrying you focus your imagination to what a successful and fun date might look like, already you are creating the experience < LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
55:19 <norry> LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
55:28 <Warren1984> somethings are good to worry about because a little anxiety helps motivate us
55:29 <anotherirc3r> obviously mrwuf but i just said that people don't worry because they WANT to
55:41 <Warren1984> but it's not good to constantly worry
55:45 <norry> none of you losers go on dates with girls
55:46 <mrwuf> ah anotherirc3r but what do you control if you cannot control yourself?
55:46 <norry> for fucks sake
55:50 <norry> stop your spastic shit
55:56 <Warren1984> nite all
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56:00 <anotherirc3r> perhaps they're just anxious because it's fun?
56:00 <norry> of course jen
56:00 <norry> jen u are speaking sense
56:00 <mrwuf> what is the difference between anxiety and excitement if it is not your attitude?
56:00 <norry> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
56:00 <anotherirc3r> umm..
56:00 <anotherirc3r> you do not control anxiety
56:03 <mrwuf> the only thing you can control is yourself, many people do not seem to possess this awareness
56:12 <norry> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
56:43 <anotherirc3r> do people who have anxiety able to control themselves?
56:55 <anotherirc3r> perhaps they're just anxious because it's fun?
56:56 <norry> of course jen
57:00 <norry> really?
57:00 <norry> LOL
57:00 <mrwuf> you can be nervous and anxious when you go on a first date, using our example again, or you can be excited and delighted.. the choice is entirely ours to make
57:00 <anotherirc3r> well, i suppose you can but apparently it's difficult
57:00 <anotherirc3r> no
57:02 <norry> jen u are speaking sense
57:05 <mrwuf> what is the difference between anxiety and excitement if it is not your attitude?
57:16 <norry> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
57:36 <anotherirc3r> umm..
57:41 <anotherirc3r> you do not control anxiety
58:00 <mrwuf> well finding the source of this anxiety is really all thats required
58:00 <norry> hahahahahahahaha
58:00 <anotherirc3r> you do not necessarily choose to be excited or anxious
58:00 <norry> mrwuf when was the last time you went on a date?
58:00 <mrwuf> if for example, imagine your a male and your anxious in social situations... well are you fit and strong? or are you obese and weak... finding the source of this anxiety means you can usually address it
58:06 <norry> really?
58:06 <norry> LOL
58:33 <mrwuf> you can be nervous and anxious when you go on a first date, using our example again, or you can be excited and delighted.. the choice is entirely ours to make
58:42 <anotherirc3r> well, i suppose you can but apparently it's difficult
58:47 <anotherirc3r> no
58:56 <mrwuf> well finding the source of this anxiety is really all thats required
59:00 <norry> lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
59:00 <norry> jesus christ
59:00 <anotherirc3r> you can control your emotions to a certain extent, yes
59:00 <anotherirc3r> but as i said.. people do not choose to be anxious
59:02 <norry> hahahahahahahaha
59:07 <anotherirc3r> you do not necessarily choose to be excited or anxious
59:08 <norry> mrwuf when was the last time you went on a date?
59:45 <mrwuf> if for example, imagine your a male and your anxious in social situations... well are you fit and strong? or are you obese and weak... finding the source of this anxiety means you can usually address it
00:00 <mrwuf> were a obese man to go out in public I'm almost sure he would feel anxiety and probably depression, this mind state is because he is both afraid of being attacked and unable to defend himself coupled with the revulsion vibe woman give him
00:00 <mrwuf> he can change that at any moment by making better choices, diet and exercise 
00:00 <anotherirc3r> it's not as easy as you're proposing
00:00 <anotherirc3r> you know that, right?
00:00 <mrwuf> now imagine a strong male in that same scenario, he knows whatever happens he can handle himself and the woman are all sexually available to him, so his experience is not one of anxiety but excitement
00:01 <norry> lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
00:06 <norry> jesus christ
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00:24 <anotherirc3r> you can control your emotions to a certain extent, yes
00:33 <anotherirc3r> but as i said.. people do not choose to be anxious
00:52 <mrwuf> were a obese man to go out in public I'm almost sure he would feel anxiety and probably depression, this mind state is because he is both afraid of being attacked and unable to defend himself coupled with the revulsion vibe woman give him
01:00 <mrwuf> tldr; being obese is playing the life game on hard mode
01:00 <anotherirc3r> whoa.. hang on a minute
01:04 <mrwuf> he can change that at any moment by making better choices, diet and exercise
01:35 <anotherirc3r> it's not as easy as you're proposing
01:39 <anotherirc3r> you know that, right?
01:44 <mrwuf> now imagine a strong male in that same scenario, he knows whatever happens he can handle himself and the woman are all sexually available to him, so his experience is not one of anxiety but excitement
01:59 <mrwuf> tldr; being obese is playing the life game on hard mode
02:00 <mrwuf> so anxiety is a useful informative feeling, and left to mature should lead to anger which is a motivating emotion, this anger drives the change
02:00 <anotherirc3r> you cannot (and neither can this ficticious person) claim that women are all sexually available to him
02:41 <anotherirc3r> whoa.. hang on a minute
03:13 <mrwuf> so anxiety is a useful informative feeling, and left to mature should lead to anger which is a motivating emotion, this anger drives the change
03:17 <anotherirc3r> you cannot (and neither can this ficticious person) claim that women are all sexually available to him
04:00 <mrwuf> well the example I used illustrates the difference in experience that say clive palmer would have compared to say johnny depp
05:00 <anotherirc3r> if people are incredibly shallow and superficial, yes
05:20 <mrwuf> well the example I used illustrates the difference in experience that say clive palmer would have compared to say johnny depp
06:00 <mrwuf> our bodies are a reflection of our minds
06:00 <Marttinn> http://thevine.com.au/entertainment/viral/microsoft-shutdown-twitter-ai-became-flaming-racist/3/
06:00 <mrwuf> an unhealthy body reflects a unhealthy mind, and as our bodies grow stronger so does our mind, theres are linked by a feedback loop
06:24 <anotherirc3r> if people are incredibly shallow and superficial, yes
07:00 <mrwuf> our bodies are a reflection of our minds
07:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm sure Marttinn would love to discuss this with you
07:00 <Marttinn> what
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07:43 <Marttinn> http://thevine.com.au/entertainment/viral/microsoft-shutdown-twitter-ai-became-flaming-racist/3/
07:46 <mrwuf> an unhealthy body reflects a unhealthy mind, and as our bodies grow stronger so does our mind, theres are linked by a feedback loop
08:00 <anotherirc3r> just say yes
08:00 <Marttinn> yes
08:00 <anotherirc3r> awesome
08:25 <anotherirc3r> i'm sure Marttinn would love to discuss this with you
08:32 <Marttinn> what
09:00 <mrwuf> we basically tell ourselves lies, when the truth is painful... "i'm not fat, men love my big breasts" or the weak scrawny man who puffs up his chest and walks with a broom up his ass, and even when we can deceive ourselves we cannot deceive other people so easily, and this manifests in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways... like the gentleman having a midlife crisis who buys a convertible etc
09:09 <anotherirc3r> just say yes
09:12 <Marttinn> yes
09:35 <anotherirc3r> awesome
10:29 <mrwuf> we basically tell ourselves lies, when the truth is painful... "i'm not fat, men love my big breasts" or the weak scrawny man who puffs up his chest and walks with a broom up his ass, and even when we can deceive ourselves we cannot deceive other people so easily, and this manifests in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways... like the gentleman having a midlife crisis who buys a convertible etc
16:00 <mrwuf> the easy option is to let people deceive themselves, perhaps they initially try and are met with aggression or some other emotion and back off, but our real friends make the effort to help us unlock our sleeping potential, however even tho people may have a dim awareness under all that self deception, its usually guarded but a real friend, someone who cares about you will make the time 
17:00 <mrwuf> sometimes covertly rather than overly, in our example of the obese guy, instead of bluntly suggesting he's overweight and thats the source of his depression and anxiety, they will simply invite.. no.. drag you along to the gym and help you establish better habits
17:00 <nuthin> loooooool
17:45 <mrwuf> the easy option is to let people deceive themselves, perhaps they initially try and are met with aggression or some other emotion and back off, but our real friends make the effort to help us unlock our sleeping potential, however even tho people may have a dim awareness under all that self deception, its usually guarded but a real friend, someone who cares about you will make the time
18:45 <mrwuf> sometimes covertly rather than overly, in our example of the obese guy, instead of bluntly suggesting he's overweight and thats the source of his depression and anxiety, they will simply invite.. no.. drag you along to the gym and help you establish better habits
18:45 <nuthin> loooooool
19:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm morbidly obese and perfectly happy
19:00 <Marttinn> xDDDDDDDDDD
20:00 <Marttinn> nobody doubts that jen
20:00 <Marttinn> but your happiness can be measured?
20:00 <Marttinn> or happy as in perfect
20:00 <Marttinn> perhaps with less weight youd be even happier
20:08 <anotherirc3r> i'm morbidly obese and perfectly happy
20:42 <Marttinn> xDDDDDDDDDD
21:00 <mrwuf> aside from the cancers, diabetes, heart disease, I understand being fat and not caring about health is an attitude thats rather popular and easy to fall into
21:00 <mrwuf> I've been rather fat myself
21:16 <Marttinn> nobody doubts that jen
21:29 <Marttinn> but your happiness can be measured?
21:34 <Marttinn> or happy as in perfect
21:48 <Marttinn> perhaps with less weight youd be even happier
22:00 <circle> skinny is as bad as fat
22:00 <mrwuf> if you had of meet me then I probably would of acted exactly like norry
22:00 <anotherirc3r> awesome
22:06 <mrwuf> aside from the cancers, diabetes, heart disease, I understand being fat and not caring about health is an attitude thats rather popular and easy to fall into
22:38 <mrwuf> I've been rather fat myself
23:00 <nuthin> ive never been with a big girl its on my bucket list
23:00 <mrwuf> late night irc trying to dominate other men in order to raise my own self esteem and derive some scant taste of escape from feeling like a completely out of control loser
23:00 <circle> what do you mean big nuthin 
23:13 <circle> skinny is as bad as fat
23:15 <mrwuf> if you had of meet me then I probably would of acted exactly like norry
23:16 <anotherirc3r> awesome
24:00 <mrwuf> we learn from our mistakes and they make us stronger for the experience
24:00 <nuthin> morbidly obese
24:00 <mrwuf> sure there are two polar extremes with body fat and each have health concerns and are both unattractive 
24:07 <nuthin> ive never been with a big girl its on my bucket list
24:12 <mrwuf> late night irc trying to dominate other men in order to raise my own self esteem and derive some scant taste of escape from feeling like a completely out of control loser
24:40 <circle> what do you mean big nuthin
24:58 <mrwuf> we learn from our mistakes and they make us stronger for the experience
25:00 <nuthin> morbidly obese
25:00 <mrwuf> theres a firmly established link that not even the best political correctness can seem to break - that link between health and beauty
25:43 <mrwuf> sure there are two polar extremes with body fat and each have health concerns and are both unattractive
26:00 <mrwuf> and small changes make such a difference with diet
26:00 <mrwuf> forget sweating in a gym
26:00 <mrwuf> just eliminate carbs from your diet 
26:12 <mrwuf> theres a firmly established link that not even the best political correctness can seem to break - that link between health and beauty
27:00 <mrwuf> without moving off the couch I lose 0.278kg per day, eating meat, cheeses, sour cream, butter
27:00 <mrwuf> all the fat you desire, because fat does not make a person fat
27:00 <mrwuf> thats the ketogenic diet
27:00 <anotherirc3r> great. i'm fine being fat and ugly
27:00 <anotherirc3r> as i said
27:11 <mrwuf> and small changes make such a difference with diet
27:24 <mrwuf> forget sweating in a gym
27:33 <mrwuf> just eliminate carbs from your diet
27:57 <mrwuf> without moving off the couch I lose 0.278kg per day, eating meat, cheeses, sour cream, butter
28:00 <mrwuf> picture a scotch fillet steak with sour cream, advocardo, topped with cheese and salami... sound difficult? its delicious and so simple
28:00 <anotherirc3r> no one will go near me. it's perfect
28:00 <nuthin> fukkn making me hungry
28:00 <mrwuf> well if you ever change your mind you know have the information 
28:22 <mrwuf> all the fat you desire, because fat does not make a person fat
28:26 <mrwuf> thats the ketogenic diet
28:46 <anotherirc3r> great. i'm fine being fat and ugly
28:49 <anotherirc3r> as i said
29:02 <mrwuf> picture a scotch fillet steak with sour cream, advocardo, topped with cheese and salami... sound difficult? its delicious and so simple
29:03 <anotherirc3r> no one will go near me. it's perfect
29:32 <nuthin> fukkn making me hungry
29:40 <mrwuf> well if you ever change your mind you know have the information
30:00 <mrwuf> no one can force us to change, they might be able to encourage us... for me.. I enjoy sex with woman, hot attractive woman.. that was the motivation
30:00 <mrwuf> combined with getting tired of feeling anxious in any sort of public situation 
30:00 <anotherirc3r> for sex?
30:00 <anotherirc3r> that's pathetic
30:51 <mrwuf> no one can force us to change, they might be able to encourage us... for me.. I enjoy sex with woman, hot attractive woman.. that was the motivation
31:00 <nuthin> lol
31:00 <mrwuf> everything we do is motivated by that most powerful natural force
31:00 <anotherirc3r> and what most powerful natural force is that?
31:00 <Marttinn> 4 LOVE
31:10 <mrwuf> combined with getting tired of feeling anxious in any sort of public situation
31:47 <anotherirc3r> for sex?
31:49 <anotherirc3r> that's pathetic
31:57 <nuthin> lol
32:00 <nuthin> u cunts r fucked\
32:00 <mrwuf> 13 ♥
32:26 <mrwuf> everything we do is motivated by that most powerful natural force
32:43 <anotherirc3r> and what most powerful natural force is that?
32:43 <Marttinn>  LOVE
33:00 <erlich> lmao
33:00 <anotherirc3r> ugh, don't make me sick
33:00 <anotherirc3r> love is a lie
33:00 <erlich> all love, or just romantic love?
33:09 <nuthin> u cunts r fucked\
33:46 <mrwuf>  ♥
33:52 <erlich> lmao
34:00 <anotherirc3r> all probably
34:13 <anotherirc3r> ugh, don't make me sick
34:19 <anotherirc3r> love is a lie
34:34 <erlich> all love, or just romantic love?
35:00 <anotherirc3r> all probably
35:00 <Marttinn> you got it all jen...
35:00 <mrwuf> even in nature mothers when cornered by a predator and in the company of a youngling will not simply flee, even in the face of death, they instead turn into.. well... I wouldn't like to corner any mother protecting her cubs
35:00 <Marttinn> you dont like sex, ugly, fat, disheartened
35:00 <anotherirc3r> yeah. i'm a fantasy
35:00 <mrwuf> call it whatever you wish, its when you care about someone more than you care about yourself
35:54 <Marttinn> you got it all jen...
36:00 <erlich> Marttinn you are such a calculator evil sometimes
36:00 <Marttinn> I was asuming when you told circle or someone else if sexual relationships were that important to them, youd be ranking love high, but nope....
36:00 <Marttinn> xDDD
36:00 <anotherirc3r> nope
36:00 <anotherirc3r> don't care about sex or love
36:00 <Marttinn> #1 FOOD
36:00 <erlich> true love is the love a man has for his music collection
36:00 <Marttinn> #2 ????
36:10 <mrwuf> even in nature mothers when cornered by a predator and in the company of a youngling will not simply flee, even in the face of death, they instead turn into.. well... I wouldn't like to corner any mother protecting her cubs
36:11 <Marttinn> you dont like sex, ugly, fat, disheartened
36:36 <anotherirc3r> yeah. i'm a fantasy
36:45 <mrwuf> call it whatever you wish, its when you care about someone more than you care about yourself
36:53 <erlich> Marttinn you are such a calculator evil sometimes
37:00 <erlich> MUSIC
37:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQ51clh7z4
37:00 <Marttinn> lol
37:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mother Lion Bravely Defends Her Cubs (Feb 25, 2014) Length: 1:46 - Category: Pets & Animals - 461,507 views - 716 likes (83.6%), 140 dislikes (16.4%)
37:00 <erlich> i feel hungry now
37:00 <mrwuf> in cat culture, the men lions will eat the cubs of a female lion in order to bring her back into heat
37:00 <Marttinn> ops
37:05 <Marttinn> I was asuming when you told circle or someone else if sexual relationships were that important to them, youd be ranking love high, but nope....
37:09 <Marttinn> xDDD
37:24 <anotherirc3r> nope
37:29 <anotherirc3r> don't care about sex or love
37:41 <Marttinn> #1 FOOD
37:44 <erlich> true love is the love a man has for his music collection
37:48 <Marttinn> #2 ????
37:52 <erlich> MUSIC
37:56 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQ51clh7z4
37:59 <Marttinn> lol
38:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mother Lion Bravely Defends Her Cubs (Feb 25, 2014) Length: 1:46 - Category: Pets & Animals - 461,507 views - 716 likes (83.6%), 140 dislikes (16.4%)
38:00 <Marttinn> 7:37 <Marttinn> #1 FOOD
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:37 <@erlich> true love is the love a man has for his music collection
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:37 <Marttinn> #2 ????
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:37 <@erlich> MUSIC
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:37 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQ51clh7z4
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:37 <Marttinn> lol
38:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mother Lion Bravely Defends Her Cubs (Feb 25, 2014) Length: 0 - Category: Pets & Animals - 461,507 views - 716 likes (83.6%), 140 dislikes (16.4%)
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:38 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mother Lion Bravely Defends Her Cubs (Feb 25, 2014) Length: 1:46 - Category: Pets & Animals - 461,507 views - 716 likes (83.6%), 140 dislikes (16.4%)
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:38 <@erlich> i feel hungry now
38:00 <Marttinn> 17:38 <mrwuf> in cat culture, the men lions will eat the cubs of a female lion in order to bring her back into heat
38:02 <erlich> i feel hungry now
38:28 <mrwuf> in cat culture, the men lions will eat the cubs of a female lion in order to bring her back into heat
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38:46 <Marttinn> ops
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38:58 <Marttinn> 7:37 <Marttinn> #1 FOOD
39:00 <Marttinn> 17:37 <@erlich> true love is the love a man has for his music collection
39:00 <mrwuf> a lion dinner date with a single mother takes on a much more sinister tone 
39:00 <anotherirc3r> yes. food is #1
39:00 <anotherirc3r> of course
39:00 <Marttinn> second?
39:00 <Marttinn> or just one passion in life
39:02 <Marttinn> 17:37 <Marttinn> #2 ????
39:04 <Marttinn> 17:37 <@erlich> MUSIC
39:06 <Marttinn> 17:37 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQ51clh7z4
39:08 <Marttinn> 17:37 <Marttinn> lol
39:10 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mother Lion Bravely Defends Her Cubs (Feb 25, 2014) Length: 0 - Category: Pets & Animals - 461,507 views - 716 likes (83.6%), 140 dislikes (16.4%)
39:10 <Marttinn> 17:38 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mother Lion Bravely Defends Her Cubs (Feb 25, 2014) Length: 1:46 - Category: Pets & Animals - 461,507 views - 716 likes (83.6%), 140 dislikes (16.4%)
39:12 <Marttinn> 17:38 <@erlich> i feel hungry now
39:14 <Marttinn> 17:38 <mrwuf> in cat culture, the men lions will eat the cubs of a female lion in order to bring her back into heat
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40:00 <anotherirc3r> just one
40:00 <anotherirc3r> it's a big one
40:00 <mrwuf> its interesting because certain foods activate those same dopamine pleasure centres of the brain, those same pathways that sex trigger
40:00 <mrwuf> now consider what happens when you neuter a pet, they become obese!
40:04 <mrwuf> a lion dinner date with a single mother takes on a much more sinister tone
40:07 <anotherirc3r> yes. food is #1
40:09 <anotherirc3r> of course
40:20 <Marttinn> second?
40:47 <Marttinn> or just one passion in life
41:00 <Marttinn> gotta go, Ill keep reading when Im back on the tablet
41:00 <mrwuf> take away a beings sexuality and they compensate its that whole concept we touched on earlier about repressing things and having them manifest elsewhere in less healthy forms
41:00 <erlich> is this you mrwuf
41:00 <erlich> http://www.watoday.com.au/queensland/queensland-tradie-has-596m-in-bank-court-told-20160326-gnrh0h.html
41:00 <mrwuf> this is me https://www.flickr.com/photos/john_booker-varley/5386779563
41:02 <anotherirc3r> just one
41:04 <anotherirc3r> it's a big one
41:20 <mrwuf> its interesting because certain foods activate those same dopamine pleasure centres of the brain, those same pathways that sex trigger
41:37 <mrwuf> now consider what happens when you neuter a pet, they become obese!
42:00 <anotherirc3r> stop psychoanalysing everything
42:00 <erlich> the Lion is fascinated
42:02 <Marttinn> gotta go, Ill keep reading when Im back on the tablet
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42:07 <mrwuf> take away a beings sexuality and they compensate its that whole concept we touched on earlier about repressing things and having them manifest elsewhere in less healthy forms
42:27 <erlich> is this you mrwuf
42:29 <erlich> http://www.watoday.com.au/queensland/queensland-tradie-has-596m-in-bank-court-told-20160326-gnrh0h.html
42:48 <mrwuf> this is me https://www.flickr.com/photos/john_booker-varley/5386779563
43:00 <mrwuf> that guy sort of has form that we both may characterise as a pieter archetype, methampetamine and probably victim of some email scam where he invests money and they create an account on some website so he can watch his money "grow" while encouraging him to put more in to expedite the process
43:04 <anotherirc3r> stop psychoanalysing everything
43:37 <erlich> the Lion is fascinated
44:00 <erlich> "It's one of the most bizarre cases I have ever come across," duty solicitor Nick Hanly told Magistrate Anthony Gett who was trying to determine whether Harrison needed a mental health assessment or bail.
44:00 <mrwuf> the same driving force that probably makes meth so appealing is probably also why he boasts, low self esteem
44:00 <erlich> LOL
44:00 <mrwuf> anotherirc3r, there are reasons behind everything, understanding them better helps us navigate the environment
44:09 <mrwuf> that guy sort of has form that we both may characterise as a pieter archetype, methampetamine and probably victim of some email scam where he invests money and they create an account on some website so he can watch his money "grow" while encouraging him to put more in to expedite the process
44:52 <erlich> "It's one of the most bizarre cases I have ever come across," duty solicitor Nick Hanly told Magistrate Anthony Gett who was trying to determine whether Harrison needed a mental health assessment or bail.
44:55 <mrwuf> the same driving force that probably makes meth so appealing is probably also why he boasts, low self esteem
44:56 <erlich> LOL
45:00 <mrwuf> the only question that counts is... how much truth can you handle before you say "ENOUGH! TOO MUCH!"
45:00 <anotherirc3r> whatever
45:32 <mrwuf> anotherirc3r, there are reasons behind everything, understanding them better helps us navigate the environment
46:00 <mrwuf> the deeper you look into any subject the more complex it becomes, the more you realise you know virtually nothing, that this world is limitless by design
46:00 <mrwuf> fractals inside fractals inside fractals
46:43 <mrwuf> the only question that counts is... how much truth can you handle before you say "ENOUGH! TOO MUCH!"
46:44 <anotherirc3r> whatever
47:24 <mrwuf> the deeper you look into any subject the more complex it becomes, the more you realise you know virtually nothing, that this world is limitless by design
47:41 <mrwuf> fractals inside fractals inside fractals
48:00 <mrwuf> so with this awareness you suddenly realise the choices are rather limited to three options
48:00 <mrwuf> 1. Create something
49:00 <mrwuf> 2. Help someone who is creating something
49:00 <mrwuf> 3. Destory something
49:43 <mrwuf> so with this awareness you suddenly realise the choices are rather limited to three options
49:50 <mrwuf> 1. Create something
49:58 <mrwuf> 2. Help someone who is creating something
50:00 <mrwuf> an example to illustrate this concept is to imagine a child at the beach who sets to building a sandcastle, another child comes up and helps, finally this wonderful sand creation is finished! and a third child approaches... all that is left for him.. is to destory!
50:03 <mrwuf> 3. Destory something
51:00 <mrwuf> an example to illustrate this concept is to imagine a child at the beach who sets to building a sandcastle, another child comes up and helps, finally this wonderful sand creation is finished! and a third child approaches... all that is left for him.. is to destory!
51:00 <mrwuf> destroying is easy and lots of people go this route, but creating is what requires skill, so I try to be constantly creating, in our world that is limitless by design
51:54 <mrwuf> destroying is easy and lots of people go this route, but creating is what requires skill, so I try to be constantly creating, in our world that is limitless by design
52:00 <mrwuf> does that make sense? the only limitation is our imagination
53:22 <mrwuf> does that make sense? the only limitation is our imagination
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55:00 <nuthin> i just wanna die
56:08 <nuthin> i just wanna die
57:00 <mrwuf> how many things would you attempt if you knew you could not fail
57:52 <mrwuf> how many things would you attempt if you knew you could not fail
58:00 <mrwuf> whens the last time you had some exercise? the human body was designed to hunt sabre tooth tigers and run 40km a day
59:00 <rasintoast> wtf nah man
59:00 <rasintoast> its raining
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59:36 <mrwuf> whens the last time you had some exercise? the human body was designed to hunt sabre tooth tigers and run 40km a day
00:02 <rasintoast> wtf nah man
00:46 <rasintoast> its raining
05:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MHIQGTUwgo
05:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ezenia - Euphoric Worlds [HQ Edit] (Feb 17, 2016) Length: 3:22 - Category: Music - 12,888 views - 527 likes (99.1%), 5 dislikes (0.9%)
05:53 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MHIQGTUwgo
05:58 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ezenia - Euphoric Worlds [HQ Edit] (Feb 17, 2016) Length: 3:22 - Category: Music - 12,888 views - 527 likes (99.1%), 5 dislikes (0.9%)
14:00 <Tigger_> all Ted Cruz news is about the sex scandal now
15:00 <rasintoast> Tigger_
15:00 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/gk8duLXDacs
15:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: christopher trance who needs guitars anyway 2016 music video (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 2:48 - Category: Music - 9 views views - 2 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
15:00 <rasintoast> its like calm
15:00 <Tigger_> having a listen
15:24 <Tigger_> all Ted Cruz news is about the sex scandal now
16:00 <rasintoast> there is 150bpm version too
16:09 <rasintoast> Tigger_
16:19 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/gk8duLXDacs
16:22 <BlackDevil> Youtube: christopher trance who needs guitars anyway 2016 music video (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 2:48 - Category: Music - 9 views views - 2 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
16:39 <rasintoast> its like calm
16:44 <Tigger_> having a listen
17:05 <rasintoast> there is 150bpm version too
18:00 <Tigger_> this is one of your best
19:00 <rasintoast> i played the melody once on a kb midi controller
19:00 <rasintoast> and recorded it 
19:00 <rasintoast> but as keypresses
19:00 <rasintoast> so could change it too
19:15 <Tigger_> this is one of your best
20:00 <circle> Tigger_: why does suffering exist?
20:00 <rasintoast> i thought somebodys name
20:00 <rasintoast> and played that melody
20:00 <Tigger_> circle, to answer that imagine a universe without suffering
20:08 <rasintoast> i played the melody once on a kb midi controller
20:16 <rasintoast> and recorded it
20:28 <rasintoast> but as keypresses
20:38 <rasintoast> so could change it too
20:54 <circle> Tigger_: why does suffering exist?
21:00 <rasintoast> i thought somebodys name
21:00 <circle> it would be a great place
21:00 <circle> the ideal universe would contain no suffering whatsoever.
21:00 <circle> suffering should not even exist as a concept
21:00 <mrwuf> without pain there is no pleasure
21:00 <circle> it shouldn't even be something that could be conceived of or imagined
21:00 <circle> that would be better than what we have now mrwuf 
21:08 <rasintoast> and played that melody
21:27 <Tigger_> circle, to answer that imagine a universe without suffering
21:56 <circle> it would be a great place
22:00 <Tigger_> how is there to be growth and maturity without suffering?
22:00 <mrwuf> whatever you do would become baseline, drug addicts have this problem, they end up chasing a 'high' but in truth they are avoiding a 'low' and that high feeling becomes normal its thrilling at first then becomes normal... so without suffering there could be no pleasure
22:08 <circle> the ideal universe would contain no suffering whatsoever.
22:15 <circle> suffering should not even exist as a concept
22:22 <mrwuf> without pain there is no pleasure
22:24 <circle> it shouldn't even be something that could be conceived of or imagined
22:48 <circle> that would be better than what we have now mrwuf
23:00 <circle> you value growth and maturity Tigger_ 
23:00 <mrwuf> view pain as a informative feeling that indicates something is wrong, then seek the root cause and address that
23:00 <circle> it gives you pleasure to value them
23:00 <circle> that wouildn't be a bad thing mrwuf 
23:00 <circle> a universe without any feelings whatsoever
23:02 <Tigger_> how is there to be growth and maturity without suffering?
23:25 <mrwuf> whatever you do would become baseline, drug addicts have this problem, they end up chasing a 'high' but in truth they are avoiding a 'low' and that high feeling becomes normal its thrilling at first then becomes normal... so without suffering there could be no pleasure
24:00 <mrwuf> well you would probably find opiates very appealing
24:00 <circle> qualia is the worst thing imaginable
24:00 <Tigger_> why do you bring up the question of suffering?
24:00 <circle> can you imagine the suffering that exists on this earth as we speak?
24:00 <mrwuf> opiates revert your brain back to the infancy circuit
24:00 <circle> the countless animals dying of incredibly painful diseases, being eaten alive by bacteria, bugs, etc?
24:00 <circle> the countless humans dying grisly deaths?
24:00 <circle> doesn't that give you some sense of existential horror?
24:20 <circle> you value growth and maturity Tigger_
24:23 <mrwuf> view pain as a informative feeling that indicates something is wrong, then seek the root cause and address that
24:24 <circle> it gives you pleasure to value them
24:35 <circle> that wouildn't be a bad thing mrwuf
24:49 <circle> a universe without any feelings whatsoever
24:53 <mrwuf> well you would probably find opiates very appealing
24:57 <circle> qualia is the worst thing imaginable
25:00 <mrwuf> thats evolution thats the reason we exist as perfect forms that we represent
25:00 <mrwuf> without death theres no new life
25:00 <mrwuf> nothing changes
25:00 <circle> hopefully death is an escape from qualia
25:10 <Tigger_> why do you bring up the question of suffering?
25:16 <circle> can you imagine the suffering that exists on this earth as we speak?
25:28 <mrwuf> opiates revert your brain back to the infancy circuit
25:29 <circle> the countless animals dying of incredibly painful diseases, being eaten alive by bacteria, bugs, etc?
25:36 <circle> the countless humans dying grisly deaths?
25:46 <circle> doesn't that give you some sense of existential horror?
25:53 <mrwuf> thats evolution thats the reason we exist as perfect forms that we represent
25:59 <mrwuf> without death theres no new life
26:00 <circle> if it is, people committing suicide are very smart
26:00 <circle> i fear it might be no escape
26:00 <Tigger_> Hell awaits them
26:00 <circle> the very idea that there could be such a thing as eternity of suffering is too horrible to contemplate
26:00 <circle> i wouldn't wish hell on the worst lifeform in the universe
26:01 <mrwuf> nothing changes
26:10 <circle> hopefully death is an escape from qualia
27:00 <Tigger_> I'd be horrified if Hell and eternal punishment don't exist
27:00 <circle> if there is a hell, and it's real
27:00 <circle> i suspect the only beings suffering in there are those who tried to condemn others to it
27:03 <circle> if it is, people committing suicide are very smart
27:08 <circle> i fear it might be no escape
27:13 <Tigger_> Hell awaits them
27:29 <circle> the very idea that there could be such a thing as eternity of suffering is too horrible to contemplate
27:40 <circle> i wouldn't wish hell on the worst lifeform in the universe
27:55 <Tigger_> I'd be horrified if Hell and eternal punishment don't exist
28:00 <circle> but it isn't 
28:00 <circle> luckily
28:00 <Tigger_> however I have great faith in the reality of Hell
28:00 <mrwuf> circle would immortality, immobility, the inability to speak and invisibility, so you would sit there, forever, unable to have any contact with the world in any form sound attractive 
28:00 <circle> sounds bad mrwuf 
28:00 <circle> very bad
28:00 <circle> i would need the option to terminate my consciousness
28:08 <circle> if there is a hell, and it's real
28:26 <circle> i suspect the only beings suffering in there are those who tried to condemn others to it
29:00 <circle> but it isn't
29:00 <Tigger_> that's impossible
29:00 <mrwuf> view life as a challenge for survival
29:00 <circle> i would like a button i could press
29:00 <mrwuf> if you picture the world as a game it becomes fun
29:00 <circle> that would put me in a secondary timeless dimension for however long i wanted
29:00 <circle> so i could stay in my room for like 10 years
29:00 <circle> but when i came back no time would have passed
29:00 <circle> and i wouldn't have aged
29:01 <circle> luckily
29:22 <Tigger_> however I have great faith in the reality of Hell
29:30 <mrwuf> circle would immortality, immobility, the inability to speak and invisibility, so you would sit there, forever, unable to have any contact with the world in any form sound attractive
29:41 <circle> sounds bad mrwuf
29:43 <circle> very bad
29:50 <circle> i would need the option to terminate my consciousness
30:00 <circle> imagine having something you have to do
30:00 <circle> you could leave it to the last second
30:00 <Tigger_> the soul and consciousness live for all eternity, long after the material universe has expired
30:00 <circle> Tigger_: what evidence do you have for that?
30:00 <circle> Tigger_: does a stillborn baby's soul live forever?
30:00 <Tigger_> no evidence, a conviction that it is true
30:00 <Tigger_> yes
30:02 <Tigger_> that's impossible
30:04 <mrwuf> view life as a challenge for survival
30:13 <circle> i would like a button i could press
30:23 <mrwuf> if you picture the world as a game it becomes fun
30:25 <circle> that would put me in a secondary timeless dimension for however long i wanted
30:33 <circle> so i could stay in my room for like 10 years
30:37 <circle> but when i came back no time would have passed
30:44 <circle> and i wouldn't have aged
30:56 <circle> imagine having something you have to do
31:00 <circle> do animals have souls?
31:00 <Tigger_> why do you want the option to terminate your consciousness?
31:00 <mrwuf> see Im more focused on this life, if someone told me to work hard for them under the promise of heaven if I obeyed and served them, I mean that whole concept is laughable isn't it?
31:00 <Tigger_> I think mammals and birds have souls
31:02 <circle> you could leave it to the last second
31:03 <Tigger_> the soul and consciousness live for all eternity, long after the material universe has expired
31:18 <circle> Tigger_: what evidence do you have for that?
31:31 <circle> Tigger_: does a stillborn baby's soul live forever?
31:40 <Tigger_> no evidence, a conviction that it is true
31:42 <Tigger_> yes
32:00 <circle> mrwuf: it is pretty stupid
32:00 <circle> Tigger_: you will probably want that option one day
32:00 <mrwuf> forget about this life, in this life they want you to serve their earthly desires BUT when your dead they totally promise ever lasting heaven for you!! I mean, seriously 
32:00 <Tigger_> you can't work for heaven
32:00 <mrwuf> unless they were a god I wouldn't pay them much attention
32:05 <circle> do animals have souls?
32:19 <Tigger_> why do you want the option to terminate your consciousness?
32:23 <mrwuf> see Im more focused on this life, if someone told me to work hard for them under the promise of heaven if I obeyed and served them, I mean that whole concept is laughable isn't it?
32:28 <Tigger_> I think mammals and birds have souls
32:51 <circle> mrwuf: it is pretty stupid
33:00 <circle> is there a maximum number of souls Tigger_?
33:00 <Tigger_> I don't see why there should be a maximum
33:00 <circle> how is a soul created?
33:00 <Tigger_> the creation of the soul does not take place in our universe
33:04 <circle> Tigger_: you will probably want that option one day
33:06 <mrwuf> forget about this life, in this life they want you to serve their earthly desires BUT when your dead they totally promise ever lasting heaven for you!! I mean, seriously
33:09 <Tigger_> you can't work for heaven
33:48 <mrwuf> unless they were a god I wouldn't pay them much attention
33:52 <circle> is there a maximum number of souls Tigger_?
34:00 <circle> if i put a bullet in someone's brain, killing them, but then later piece their brain back together so that they come back alive, is that their soul or another persons?
34:00 <mrwuf> your asking the right questions but to the wrong people, and honestly no one knows, or the people that do know won't say
34:00 <mrwuf> so the emphasis is on you, to find out
34:00 <circle> if i use a de-atomisation machine on you Tigger_, then send the information to another planet, where you are "re-atomised" but with different atoms, is that you?
34:00 <circle> what if i misplace one atom?
34:00 <circle> two different souls?
34:00 <circle> what if i re-atomise you in ten different locations?
34:09 <Tigger_> I don't see why there should be a maximum
34:17 <circle> how is a soul created?
34:40 <Tigger_> the creation of the soul does not take place in our universe
34:54 <circle> if i put a bullet in someone's brain, killing them, but then later piece their brain back together so that they come back alive, is that their soul or another persons?
35:00 <Tigger_> perhaps it would result in the same soul being incarnate in ten different people
35:01 <mrwuf> your asking the right questions but to the wrong people, and honestly no one knows, or the people that do know won't say
35:20 <mrwuf> so the emphasis is on you, to find out
35:31 <circle> if i use a de-atomisation machine on you Tigger_, then send the information to another planet, where you are "re-atomised" but with different atoms, is that you?
35:37 <circle> what if i misplace one atom?
35:40 <circle> two different souls?
35:46 <circle> what if i re-atomise you in ten different locations?
36:00 <circle> so what if different stimuli led all ten "yous" to perform different actions
36:00 <circle> one became a criminal, another a saint
36:00 <circle> what happens to the soul?
36:00 <circle> hell, or heaven?
36:00 <Tigger_> perhaps very close identical twins are already an example of this
36:00 <circle> not really, they are different in atomic makeup
36:00 <circle> slightly
36:00 <rasintoast> hi
36:16 <Tigger_> perhaps it would result in the same soul being incarnate in ten different people
36:52 <circle> so what if different stimuli led all ten "yous" to perform different actions
36:57 <circle> one became a criminal, another a saint
37:00 <circle> what happens to the soul?
37:00 <rasintoast> whos a chick
37:00 <rasintoast> need womans view
37:00 <mrwuf> circle heres a concept you might like, imagine if in this whole dimension there is only one 'soul' just one. and it's you, and its me, and its tiger, and we're here living infinite lives, all running concurrently, so that everything we do to any other being, we're doing to ourselves in another life
37:04 <circle> hell, or heaven?
37:09 <Tigger_> perhaps very close identical twins are already an example of this
37:48 <circle> not really, they are different in atomic makeup
37:49 <circle> slightly
37:50 <rasintoast> hi
38:00 <Tigger_> Heaven isn't a reward for good behaviour, so it would make no difference if one became a saint, while the other a criminal.  they're just different responses to external circumstances
38:05 <rasintoast> whos a chick
38:16 <rasintoast> need womans view
38:37 <mrwuf> circle heres a concept you might like, imagine if in this whole dimension there is only one 'soul' just one. and it's you, and its me, and its tiger, and we're here living infinite lives, all running concurrently, so that everything we do to any other being, we're doing to ourselves in another life
38:51 <Tigger_> Heaven isn't a reward for good behaviour, so it would make no difference if one became a saint, while the other a criminal. they're just different responses to external circumstances
39:00 <circle> i've considered that mrwuf 
39:00 <circle> it is very hard to define where 'you' end and someone else begins
39:00 <circle> we can all be considered part of the same system
39:00 <circle> it is possible i am the only soul in the universe
39:00 <circle> a depressing thought
39:00 <mrwuf> if you follow most religions thats essentially what they say, that theres "one" god, that we all originate from, we're all a single thats simply divided
39:00 <circle> interesting
39:55 <circle> i've considered that mrwuf
40:00 <circle> Tigger_: why does a soul go to hell or heaven then?
40:00 <mrwuf> so what your asking is what is the purpose of life
40:00 <Tigger_> due to their faith in God
40:00 <mrwuf> now imagine you are a single being
40:00 <mrwuf> and you want to grow
40:03 <circle> it is very hard to define where 'you' end and someone else begins
40:08 <circle> we can all be considered part of the same system
40:18 <circle> it is possible i am the only soul in the universe
40:20 <circle> a depressing thought
40:23 <mrwuf> if you follow most religions thats essentially what they say, that theres "one" god, that we all originate from, we're all a single thats simply divided
40:50 <circle> interesting
40:58 <circle> Tigger_: why does a soul go to hell or heaven then?
41:00 <mrwuf> but theres no linear time
41:00 <mrwuf> everything is static, it remains the same, nothing changes
41:00 <mrwuf> in order to grow you divide yourself into more other forms, in this time and matter dimension we change
41:00 <circle> interesting idea
41:14 <mrwuf> so what your asking is what is the purpose of life
41:15 <Tigger_> due to their faith in God
41:33 <mrwuf> now imagine you are a single being
41:37 <mrwuf> and you want to grow
41:51 <mrwuf> but theres no linear time
41:59 <mrwuf> everything is static, it remains the same, nothing changes
42:00 <mrwuf> we grow, evolution is a pressure that enables more perfect forms to emerge while the less perfect ones don't 
42:00 <mrwuf> so I think of god as a programmer because I like computers
42:00 <circle> is there a version of me stuck in a previous timeframe?
42:00 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/iMvgAe7Zwek
42:00 <circle> in a difference dimension?
42:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: GDAY aussie techno 2016 (Mar 25, 2016) Length: 2:11 - Category: Music - 4 views views - 2 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
42:00 <mrwuf> think of it as creating a simple machine, giving it some basic parameters and letting it evolve into more perfect programming
42:00 <circle> Tigger_: you think that god created the universe, so 14 billion years later he could appear in a burning bush on earth and tell goat herders that they need to stop eating shellfish or they'll be tortured for eternity?
42:31 <mrwuf> in order to grow you divide yourself into more other forms, in this time and matter dimension we change
42:42 <circle> interesting idea
42:55 <mrwuf> we grow, evolution is a pressure that enables more perfect forms to emerge while the less perfect ones don't
43:00 <Tigger_> circle, yes
43:00 <mrwuf> so I would consider god to be a programmer that likes to code and collect perfect machines
43:00 <mrwuf> as an idea, not a belief 
43:00 <Tigger_> evolution isn't a march towards perfection though, just an adaptation to the present circumstances
43:00 <mrwuf> there are just possibilities I have no honest clue what this world is really about
43:14 <mrwuf> so I think of god as a programmer because I like computers
43:32 <circle> is there a version of me stuck in a previous timeframe?
43:38 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/iMvgAe7Zwek
43:39 <circle> in a difference dimension?
43:41 <BlackDevil> Youtube: GDAY aussie techno 2016 (Mar 25, 2016) Length: 2:11 - Category: Music - 4 views views - 2 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
43:42 <mrwuf> think of it as creating a simple machine, giving it some basic parameters and letting it evolve into more perfect programming
43:48 <circle> Tigger_: you think that god created the universe, so 14 billion years later he could appear in a burning bush on earth and tell goat herders that they need to stop eating shellfish or they'll be tortured for eternity?
44:00 <mrwuf> another interesting idea is that, how do you know what is good and what is not good?
44:00 <mrwuf> you can't be a presence and tell people, this is good, do this, and punish them, because its not an honest assessment
44:00 <Tigger_> God is outside of time, so 14 billion years is not essentially different for him than 14 minutes, or 14 trillion years
44:00 <mrwuf> you allow your creation free will, so that they decide their nature
44:00 <mrwuf> thats a true test, we create ourselves
44:05 <Tigger_> circle, yes
44:08 <mrwuf> so I would consider god to be a programmer that likes to code and collect perfect machines
44:23 <mrwuf> as an idea, not a belief
44:35 <Tigger_> evolution isn't a march towards perfection though, just an adaptation to the present circumstances
44:44 <mrwuf> there are just possibilities I have no honest clue what this world is really about
45:00 <mrwuf> again, not a belief these are merely ideas that have occurred to me as a IT nerd
45:02 <mrwuf> another interesting idea is that, how do you know what is good and what is not good?
45:23 <mrwuf> you can't be a presence and tell people, this is good, do this, and punish them, because its not an honest assessment
45:29 <Tigger_> God is outside of time, so 14 billion years is not essentially different for him than 14 minutes, or 14 trillion years
45:34 <mrwuf> you allow your creation free will, so that they decide their nature
45:48 <mrwuf> thats a true test, we create ourselves
46:00 <mrwuf> imagine being a what we talked about before, alone, immortal etc
46:00 <circle> interesting idea mrwuf 
46:00 <mrwuf> lonely yeah? would you divide yourself into a million pieces to create a world for you to observe 
46:00 <circle> im off to bed
46:00 <circle> talk tomorrow
46:00 <Tigger_> night circle 
46:22 <mrwuf> again, not a belief these are merely ideas that have occurred to me as a IT nerd
47:00 <mrwuf> gnite
47:00 <mrwuf> theres so many possibilities
47:00 <mrwuf> limitless
47:10 <mrwuf> imagine being a what we talked about before, alone, immortal etc
47:28 <circle> interesting idea mrwuf
47:30 <mrwuf> lonely yeah? would you divide yourself into a million pieces to create a world for you to observe
47:31 <circle> im off to bed
47:33 <circle> talk tomorrow
47:44 <Tigger_> night circle
47:51 <mrwuf> gnite
48:00 <mrwuf> what nature seems to reward is courage and intelligence
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48:32 <mrwuf> theres so many possibilities
48:41 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Hallelujahah
48:45 <mrwuf> limitless
49:00 <Tigger_> similarly there is no problem with God creating a vast universe, just to give a single planet life
49:44 <mrwuf> what nature seems to reward is courage and intelligence
50:12 <Tigger_> similarly there is no problem with God creating a vast universe, just to give a single planet life
52:00 <mrwuf> I like to imagine that when we die, we enter a room full of cheers
52:00 <mrwuf> and suddenly you remember all your past lives, its like returning to a group of friends you haven't seen in a while
53:00 <Tigger_> there are no past lives
53:00 <mrwuf> and then on a big projector is your entire life playing
53:00 <mrwuf> and you get to watch
53:00 <mrwuf> so you don't have parents?
53:00 <Tigger_> parents are not past lives
53:00 <rasintoast> hi
53:00 <mrwuf> your mother and father weren't norn?
53:00 <mrwuf> born*
53:00 <mrwuf> really
53:00 <mrwuf> so where does your DNA come from
53:00 <rasintoast> oh
53:24 <mrwuf> I like to imagine that when we die, we enter a room full of cheers
53:48 <mrwuf> and suddenly you remember all your past lives, its like returning to a group of friends you haven't seen in a while
53:58 <Tigger_> there are no past lives
53:59 <mrwuf> and then on a big projector is your entire life playing
54:00 <mrwuf> all those traits you inherited and due to your parents and their parents
54:00 <Tigger_> DNA is not a past life
54:00 <mrwuf> their choices, they created you
54:00 <Tigger_> that manifestation of DNA is not your life, not your experience
54:02 <mrwuf> and you get to watch
54:12 <mrwuf> so you don't have parents?
54:28 <Tigger_> parents are not past lives
54:31 <rasintoast> hi
54:31 <mrwuf> your mother and father weren't norn?
54:33 <mrwuf> born*
54:34 <mrwuf> really
54:39 <mrwuf> so where does your DNA come from
54:46 <rasintoast> oh
54:58 <mrwuf> all those traits you inherited and due to your parents and their parents
55:00 <rasintoast> mrwuf
55:00 <rasintoast> would u believe
55:00 <rasintoast> lsd taught me music
55:00 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/Y-ako1r6yJU
55:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: RIDDLE ME TECHNO 2016 NEW MUSIC (Mar 21, 2016) Length: 3:30 - Category: Music - 16 views views - 2 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
55:00 <mrwuf> imagine a single collect of DNA that for hundreds of thousands of years has been evolving and represent its latest manfiestation
55:00 <rasintoast> lols
55:01 <Tigger_> DNA is not a past life
55:05 <mrwuf> their choices, they created you
55:43 <Tigger_> that manifestation of DNA is not your life, not your experience
56:00 <mrwuf> you will die but if you have children, your DNA lives on
56:00 <mrwuf> so is there any sort of genetic record in DNA? of course, memories? well I suppose that simply depends on your definition 
56:20 <rasintoast> mrwuf
56:25 <rasintoast> would u believe
56:30 <rasintoast> lsd taught me music
56:34 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/Y-ako1r6yJU
56:38 <BlackDevil> Youtube: RIDDLE ME TECHNO 2016 NEW MUSIC (Mar 21, 2016) Length: 3:30 - Category: Music - 16 views views - 2 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
56:42 <mrwuf> imagine a single collect of DNA that for hundreds of thousands of years has been evolving and represent its latest manfiestation
56:49 <rasintoast> lols
57:00 <mrwuf> you will die but if you have children, your DNA lives on
57:00 <mrwuf> this again is simply a concept an idea, not a belief 
57:23 <mrwuf> so is there any sort of genetic record in DNA? of course, memories? well I suppose that simply depends on your definition
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58:00 <Tigger_> if memories are encoded to DNA, then your DNA would be measurably different in one sample taken a year ago, than one taken today
58:00 <mrwuf> because nobody that knows is talking, or nobody knows, I'm not sure which... but is it even feasible that upright walking monkeys can know the mechanisms of the universe? can we comprehend such a thing?
58:11 <mrwuf> this again is simply a concept an idea, not a belief
58:57 <Tigger_> if memories are encoded to DNA, then your DNA would be measurably different in one sample taken a year ago, than one taken today
59:00 <mrwuf> I suppose it depends on the ability of our language and who well it can be framed into our time-matter dimension
59:26 <mrwuf> because nobody that knows is talking, or nobody knows, I'm not sure which... but is it even feasible that upright walking monkeys can know the mechanisms of the universe? can we comprehend such a thing?
59:52 <mrwuf> I suppose it depends on the ability of our language and who well it can be framed into our time-matter dimension
00:00 <Tigger_> that idea was central to the Dune novels though, the Kwizatch Hadarach being able to remember both male and female ancestral lines
01:00 <mrwuf> our DNA changes as we get older, I'm reading about it
01:37 <Tigger_> that idea was central to the Dune novels though, the Kwizatch Hadarach being able to remember both male and female ancestral lines
02:00 <Tigger_> http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Genetic_memory
02:18 <mrwuf> our DNA changes as we get older, I'm reading about it
03:17 <Tigger_> http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Genetic_memory
06:00 <mrwuf> cool
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07:00 <rasintoast> mrwuf this is good music https://youtu.be/EyySeQj0bvM
07:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DAYNITE 2016 HARDDANCE MUSIC NEW MARCH (Mar 14, 2016) Length: 4:15 - Category: Music - 15 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
07:37 <mrwuf> cool
08:21 <rasintoast> mrwuf this is good music https://youtu.be/EyySeQj0bvM
08:26 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DAYNITE 2016 HARDDANCE MUSIC NEW MARCH (Mar 14, 2016) Length: 4:15 - Category: Music - 15 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
09:00 <rasintoast> Hallelujahah
09:00 <rasintoast> praise my music
10:00 <Hallelujahah> Someone will have to...
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10:25 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Hallelujahah
10:28 <rasintoast> Hallelujahah
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10:49 <rasintoast> praise my music
11:00 <Tigger_> Hallelujahah speaks.  hello Hallelujahah 
11:00 <rasintoast> Hallelujahah
11:00 <Hallelujahah> Hello... Tigger_.
11:00 <rasintoast> u guy or chick Hallelujahah
11:17 <Hallelujahah> Someone will have to...
12:00 <Tigger_> Hallelujahah speaks. hello Hallelujahah
12:33 <rasintoast> Hallelujahah
12:40 <Hallelujahah> Hello... Tigger_.
12:50 <rasintoast> u guy or chick Hallelujahah
13:00 <rasintoast> or u https://youtu.be/otimR65HMC4
13:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Be like water New Music 2016 (Mar 2, 2016) Length: 3:04 - Category: Music - 16 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
14:00 <rasintoast> bruce lee
14:00 <rasintoast> rules
14:38 <rasintoast> or u https://youtu.be/otimR65HMC4
14:42 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Be like water New Music 2016 (Mar 2, 2016) Length: 3:04 - Category: Music - 16 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
14:52 <rasintoast> bruce lee
14:53 <rasintoast> rules
22:00 <mrwuf> dude stole my gym http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/23/david-barton-king-of-the-disco-gym.html
22:00 <mrwuf> dim coloured lights, sensory deprivation, probably hard style music... looks cool
22:56 <mrwuf> dude stole my gym http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/23/david-barton-king-of-the-disco-gym.html
23:27 <mrwuf> dim coloured lights, sensory deprivation, probably hard style music... looks cool
26:00 <mrwuf> way better concept that artificially bright rooms with wall to wall mirrors yuck
27:34 <mrwuf> way better concept that artificially bright rooms with wall to wall mirrors yuck
28:00 <mrwuf> who wants to watch themselves sweating, maybe for form but really it just makes the whole room super distracting
29:19 <mrwuf> who wants to watch themselves sweating, maybe for form but really it just makes the whole room super distracting
04:00 <mrwuf> ah happy easter everyone
04:00 <Tigger_> thank you mrwuf 
04:00 <Tigger_> you too
05:15 <mrwuf> ah happy easter everyone
05:27 <Tigger_> thank you mrwuf
05:28 <Tigger_> you too
12:00 <mrwuf> I'm off, peace
13:10 <mrwuf> I'm off, peace
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19:00 <rasintoast> Tigger_
19:00 <rasintoast> so bored on a dating site
19:00 <rasintoast> again
20:00 <Tigger_> give them orders, tell them they must obey
20:39 <rasintoast> Tigger_
20:47 <rasintoast> so bored on a dating site
20:50 <rasintoast> again
21:04 <Tigger_> give them orders, tell them they must obey
22:00 <rasintoast> play them this song
22:00 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/4UDS9ncwJh0
22:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: you mind games 2016 new music (Feb 5, 2016) Length: 3:13 - Category: Music - 29 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
23:25 <rasintoast> play them this song
23:26 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/4UDS9ncwJh0
23:30 <BlackDevil> Youtube: you mind games 2016 new music (Feb 5, 2016) Length: 3:13 - Category: Music - 29 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
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44:00 <rasintoast> so whats you doing
44:00 <rasintoast> everyone crashed out
44:00 <rasintoast> ?
45:03 <rasintoast> so whats you doing
45:11 <rasintoast> everyone crashed out
45:14 <rasintoast> ?
48:00 <ajnin> no
48:00 <ajnin> i just got up
49:01 <ajnin> no
49:03 <ajnin> i just got up
53:00 <abortion> same
53:00 <abortion> I thought daylight savings ended today, and I told a bunch of people that it did
53:00 <abortion> oops
53:54 <abortion> same
54:30 <abortion> I thought daylight savings ended today, and I told a bunch of people that it did
54:31 <abortion> oops
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45:00 <rasintoast> another song 
45:00 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/oqfyVzJ4tE8
45:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: BUZZING DONE DOES iN 2016 techno music video (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 2:59 - Category: Music - 1 view views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
46:28 <rasintoast> another song
46:30 <rasintoast> https://youtu.be/oqfyVzJ4tE8
46:34 <BlackDevil> Youtube: BUZZING DONE DOES iN 2016 techno music video (Mar 26, 2016) Length: 2:59 - Category: Music - 1 view views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
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21:00 <Marttin> daylight savings change begin in the next hour in spain
22:46 <Marttin> daylight savings change begin in the next hour in spain
25:00 <nuthin> thanks 
26:01 <nuthin> thanks
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42:00 <Tigger_> Bernie just won two more states
42:53 <Tigger_> Bernie just won two more states
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39:00 <Warren1984> hi all
40:19 <Warren1984> hi all
52:00 <nuthin> wotup nigga
53:38 <nuthin> wotup nigga
56:00 <Tigger_> hello Warren1984 
57:08 <Tigger_> hello Warren1984
08:00 <Warren1984> hey nuthin and Tigger_
08:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
08:00 <Warren1984> hey erlich
09:00 <Warren1984> Marttin
09:00 <Warren1984> abortion
09:00 <Warren1984> ajnin
09:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how can I become an efficient time manager?
09:42 <Warren1984> hey nuthin and Tigger_
09:45 <Warren1984> hey doctor
09:47 <Warren1984> hey erlich
09:52 <Warren1984> Marttin
09:55 <Warren1984> abortion
09:57 <Warren1984> ajnin
10:00 <Tigger_> what do you think are good ways to be an efficient time manager?
10:01 <Warren1984> Glenn
10:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how can I become an efficient time manager?
11:30 <Tigger_> what do you think are good ways to be an efficient time manager?
12:00 <doctor> hey warren
12:00 <Tigger_> hi doctor 
12:00 <doctor> hey Tigger_ 
13:09 <doctor> hey warren
13:20 <Tigger_> hi doctor
13:25 <doctor> hey Tigger_
16:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I've just found what you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmZwtSFHB8
16:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: CougarLife.com - Bar Commercial (Aug 6, 2013) Length: 0:30 - Category: Entertainment - 283,198 views - 389 likes (82.4%), 83 dislikes (17.6%)
16:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3NuoJKy5k
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16:53 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I've just found what you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmZwtSFHB8
16:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: CougarLife.com - Bar Commercial (Aug 6, 2013) Length: 0:30 - Category: Entertainment - 283,198 views - 389 likes (82.4%), 83 dislikes (17.6%)
17:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: WARNING: DISGUSTING | Ingrown Toenail Surgery the Game (Feb 26, 2015) Length: 8:24 - Category: Gaming - 81,730 views - 1,059 likes (96.7%), 36 dislikes (3.3%)
17:48 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3NuoJKy5k
17:53 <BlackDevil> Youtube: WARNING: DISGUSTING | Ingrown Toenail Surgery the Game (Feb 26, 2015) Length: 8:24 - Category: Gaming - 81,730 views - 1,059 likes (96.7%), 36 dislikes (3.3%)
21:00 <Warren1984> lol cougar
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22:35 <Warren1984> lol cougar
23:00 <Tigger_> a cougar will pay for you
24:09 <Tigger_> a cougar will pay for you
31:00 <ajnin> just swapped all the smoke alarm batteries
32:00 <ajnin> the fucking new ones I got last year use 2 each
32:00 <ajnin> now I need to get 6 fucking 9volts for 4 alarms
32:42 <ajnin> just swapped all the smoke alarm batteries
32:53 <ajnin> the fucking new ones I got last year use 2 each
33:07 <ajnin> now I need to get 6 fucking 9volts for 4 alarms
43:00 <doctor> and they'll go off at 2am at night and refuse to stop till you pull the batteries out
43:56 <doctor> and they'll go off at 2am at night and refuse to stop till you pull the batteries out
45:00 <Tigger_> I wonder if smoke alarms actually do any good
46:00 <Warren1984> If your not sleeping they do a great job Tigger_
46:00 <nuthin> i blow big furious clouds everday' alarms havent gone off yet
46:29 <Tigger_> I wonder if smoke alarms actually do any good
47:32 <Warren1984> If your not sleeping they do a great job Tigger_
47:34 <nuthin> i blow big furious clouds everday' alarms havent gone off yet
48:00 <nuthin> bbl
49:00 <Tigger_> http://freakonomics.com/2012/02/06/how-many-lives-do-smoke-alarms-really-save/
49:08 <nuthin> bbl
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50:00 <Tigger_> so basically haven't achieved a lot
50:30 <Tigger_> http://freakonomics.com/2012/02/06/how-many-lives-do-smoke-alarms-really-save/
50:52 <Tigger_> so basically haven't achieved a lot
11:00 <doctor> probably be of more use in large buildings, not so much smaller households
12:47 <doctor> probably be of more use in large buildings, not so much smaller households
28:00 <Lish> Howdy 
28:00 <mumblyjoe> Lissssshhhh
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29:00 <Lish> Sup
29:26 <Lish> Howdy
29:44 <mumblyjoe> Lissssshhhh
30:00 <Lish> I had a baking disaster which is completely unlike me
30:41 <Lish> Sup
30:52 <Lish> I had a baking disaster which is completely unlike me
34:00 <Tigger_> photo
35:00 <Tigger_> photo
35:00 <Lish> I slipped when putting food colour in my icing 
35:00 <Lish> And the pastel blue cup cakes I wanted are now bright blue
35:00 <Lish> And I didn't have enough icing sugar to start again 
35:00 <Tigger_> that's not so bad
35:00 <Tigger_> just pretend it was meant to be like that
36:06 <Lish> I slipped when putting food colour in my icing
36:18 <Lish> And the pastel blue cup cakes I wanted are now bright blue
36:26 <Lish> And I didn't have enough icing sugar to start again
36:27 <Tigger_> that's not so bad
36:41 <Tigger_> just pretend it was meant to be like that
37:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/DtrnvAV
38:22 <Lish> http://imgur.com/DtrnvAV
39:00 <Lish> First I only had whole meal flour too so I used Tht
39:00 <Lish> That 
39:00 <Lish> Just not my best basking day 
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40:27 <Lish> First I only had whole meal flour too so I used Tht
40:29 <Lish> That
40:33 <Lish> Just not my best basking day
41:00 <Tigger_> kids would like the colour
42:00 <Tigger_> tell your husband this is why you need a Kitchenaid mixer, with all attachments
42:00 <Lish> Hahaha 
42:00 <Lish> I was actually thinking when I was making them
42:00 <Lish> If I had one I probably wouldn't use it 
42:00 <Lish> For cupcakes 
42:00 <Lish> So quick and easy to use my little mixer, I made the mix in about 5 mins. 
42:22 <Tigger_> kids would like the colour
43:02 <Tigger_> tell your husband this is why you need a Kitchenaid mixer, with all attachments
43:11 <Lish> Hahaha
43:20 <Lish> I was actually thinking when I was making them
43:26 <Lish> If I had one I probably wouldn't use it
43:30 <Lish> For cupcakes
43:47 <Lish> So quick and easy to use my little mixer, I made the mix in about 5 mins.
44:00 <Tigger_> hand mixers are more work though
45:00 <Lish> This isn't a hand mixer, it's a normal mixer. It's just smaller and easier to move around / clean 
45:29 <Tigger_> hand mixers are more work though
46:00 <Tigger_> oh ok
46:13 <Lish> This isn't a hand mixer, it's a normal mixer. It's just smaller and easier to move around / clean
47:00 <Lish> You made any other cakes?
47:24 <Tigger_> oh ok
48:00 <Tigger_> no
48:00 <Lish> Did u get any Easter eggs?
48:00 <Tigger_> I was thinking I'd need to purchase better cake tins
48:22 <Lish> You made any other cakes?
49:00 <Tigger_> I did have some, the little ones
49:00 <Lish> I got so many Easter eggs 
49:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/ctpqdyK
49:00 <Lish> Bottom is mine, top is husbands 
49:12 <Tigger_> no
49:38 <Lish> Did u get any Easter eggs?
49:43 <Tigger_> I was thinking I'd need to purchase better cake tins
49:58 <Tigger_> I did have some, the little ones
50:00 <Tigger_> you got more
50:07 <Lish> I got so many Easter eggs
50:43 <Lish> http://imgur.com/ctpqdyK
50:49 <Lish> Bottom is mine, top is husbands
51:00 <Lish> He got me more than I got him lol
51:00 <Lish> Ok better get ready to go out 
51:00 <Lish> Family Easter dinner
51:00 <Tigger_> I had Lindt easter eggs too
51:00 <Tigger_> sounds like torture
51:00 <Lish> Nice! 
51:00 <Lish> I prefer Cadbury 
51:00 <Lish> Yes hahaha it is 
51:00 <Lish> But ah well 
51:00 <Lish> Not my family either 
51:00 <Tigger_> whose family?
51:43 <Tigger_> you got more
51:54 <Lish> He got me more than I got him lol
52:00 <Lish> Husbands
52:00 <Lish> Byeeeeee
52:00 <Tigger_> they're over from England?
52:00 <Tigger_> bye
52:02 <Lish> Ok better get ready to go out
52:17 <Lish> Family Easter dinner
52:18 <Tigger_> I had Lindt easter eggs too
52:24 <Tigger_> sounds like torture
52:24 <Lish> Nice!
52:27 <Lish> I prefer Cadbury
52:32 <Lish> Yes hahaha it is
52:34 <Lish> But ah well
52:45 <Lish> Not my family either
52:50 <Tigger_> whose family?
52:58 <Lish> Husbands
53:32 <Lish> Byeeeeee
53:33 <Tigger_> they're over from England?
53:34 <Tigger_> bye
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48:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is making a huge todo list and completing them as fast as possible the best way to use time management efficiently?
48:00 <Tigger_> yes
49:00 <Warren1984> also setting deadlines and priorities
49:13 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is making a huge todo list and completing them as fast as possible the best way to use time management efficiently?
49:28 <Tigger_> yes
50:04 <Warren1984> also setting deadlines and priorities
54:00 <Tigger_> make progress every day towards having 10,000 bluray rips
54:53 <Tigger_> make progress every day towards having 10,000 bluray rips
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48:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you develop effective habits?
49:00 <Tigger_> discipline
49:00 <Warren1984> and monitor yourself over time to behave most optimally
49:25 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you develop effective habits?
49:51 <Tigger_> discipline
49:59 <Warren1984> and monitor yourself over time to behave most optimally
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56:00 <doctor> behave most admirably in the presense of the most admirable
57:41 <doctor> behave most admirably in the presense of the most admirable
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11:00 <erlich> http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/03/25/brussels-attack-survivor-mason-wells-experience-only-strengthened-my-faith-god
11:00 <erlich> how very mormon
12:22 <erlich> http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/03/25/brussels-attack-survivor-mason-wells-experience-only-strengthened-my-faith-god
12:25 <erlich> how very mormon
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15:00 <Tigger_> the Mormon idiot will have plenty more opportunities to strengthen his faith since Mormons voted heavily against Trump
16:00 <erlich> have you heard how most pop songs were produced/written by Swedes?
16:00 <Tigger_> yes
16:26 <Tigger_> the Mormon idiot will have plenty more opportunities to strengthen his faith since Mormons voted heavily against Trump
17:00 <erlich> i wonder what the story is behind that
17:00 <Tigger_> because they're about the only ones who can do it, along with the English
17:00 <erlich> yeah i know the English are good at this too. but why them two in aprticular?
17:35 <erlich> have you heard how most pop songs were produced/written by Swedes?
17:44 <Tigger_> yes
17:51 <erlich> i wonder what the story is behind that
18:00 <erlich> Orbital produces some of the best tracks for artists like Madonna, All Saints etc
18:00 <erlich> artists/bands
18:00 <erlich> he has a very distinct sound, you can tell right away
18:00 <Tigger_> lots of reasons, such as America's popular music heritage derives from country and western, whereas England's derives from music hall and Gilbert & Sullivan, and so on
18:00 <erlich> im still not sure what music hall is
18:00 <Tigger_> it's catchy
18:07 <Tigger_> because they're about the only ones who can do it, along with the English
18:24 <erlich> yeah i know the English are good at this too. but why them two in aprticular?
18:55 <erlich> Orbital produces some of the best tracks for artists like Madonna, All Saints etc
19:00 <Tigger_> but 19th century
19:00 <erlich> what's a good example of it?
19:02 <erlich> artists/bands
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19:20 <erlich> he has a very distinct sound, you can tell right away
19:25 <Tigger_> lots of reasons, such as America's popular music heritage derives from country and western, whereas England's derives from music hall and Gilbert & Sullivan, and so on
19:35 <erlich> im still not sure what music hall is
19:46 <Tigger_> it's catchy
19:56 <Tigger_> but 19th century
20:00 <Tigger_> there are other reasons too, such as American's are very sniffy about 'authenticity', which is an artificial constraint, whereas England is a lot more relaxed
20:00 <doctor> Well that certainly justifies the Brussels attack
20:00 <erlich> sometimes i wonder if teen american rock is worse than their urban music
20:33 <erlich> what's a good example of it?
21:00 <erlich> electronic music really did flourish in England and Europe with an explosion of genres in the 90s and onwards
21:04 <Tigger_> there are other reasons too, such as American's are very sniffy about 'authenticity', which is an artificial constraint, whereas England is a lot more relaxed
21:19 <doctor> Well that certainly justifies the Brussels attack
21:36 <erlich> sometimes i wonder if teen american rock is worse than their urban music
22:00 <erlich> nothing really happened in the USA
22:00 <erlich> id say the only reason why this explosion didnt happen sooner is because of lack of accessibility to the equipment
22:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWygJSetbA
22:00 <doctor> US just had their pop genre and they've never really deviated from it
22:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Florrie Forde, Queen of the English Music Hall (Aug 7, 2010) Length: - Category: Music - 77,389 views - 271 likes (97.8%), 6 dislikes (2.2%)
22:00 <erlich> even Jarre was limited to what he had access to early on
22:23 <erlich> electronic music really did flourish in England and Europe with an explosion of genres in the 90s and onwards
22:51 <erlich> nothing really happened in the USA
23:00 <doctor> Can't say rap could be considered music but it's certainly popular
23:00 <Tigger_> US pop songs are essentially just watered down rock songs
23:00 <Tigger_> they've never had pop music in the English sense
23:00 <erlich> ahhhhhh this sort of music
23:32 <erlich> id say the only reason why this explosion didnt happen sooner is because of lack of accessibility to the equipment
23:36 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWygJSetbA
23:38 <doctor> US just had their pop genre and they've never really deviated from it
23:40 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Florrie Forde, Queen of the English Music Hall (Aug 7, 2010) Length: - Category: Music - 77,389 views - 271 likes (97.8%), 6 dislikes (2.2%)
23:45 <erlich> even Jarre was limited to what he had access to early on
23:53 <doctor> Can't say rap could be considered music but it's certainly popular
23:58 <Tigger_> US pop songs are essentially just watered down rock songs
24:00 <erlich> reminds me of the sort of music they played in Oliver Twist
24:00 <doctor> Australia had a very good music scene for a while, now it's pretty much nonexistent
24:00 <Tigger_> I blame that on JJJ
24:00 <doctor> kinda like its movie industry
24:00 <doctor> yeah they play a lot of garbage
24:00 <erlich> there are lots of memes on JJJ, mocking it
24:24 <Tigger_> they've never had pop music in the English sense
24:45 <erlich> ahhhhhh this sort of music
25:00 <doctor> music you rarely ever hear due to it being utterly unbarable to listen to
25:00 <Tigger_> the biggest problem with rock music is that it was colonised by omega males, every omega is in a go-nowhere band, so being in rock didn't make them cool, but they sure made rock uncool
25:08 <erlich> reminds me of the sort of music they played in Oliver Twist
25:12 <doctor> Australia had a very good music scene for a while, now it's pretty much nonexistent
25:24 <Tigger_> I blame that on JJJ
25:29 <doctor> kinda like its movie industry
25:35 <doctor> yeah they play a lot of garbage
25:37 <erlich> there are lots of memes on JJJ, mocking it
25:52 <doctor> music you rarely ever hear due to it being utterly unbarable to listen to
26:00 <Tigger_> AIDS Skrillex has his own "screamo" band
26:50 <Tigger_> the biggest problem with rock music is that it was colonised by omega males, every omega is in a go-nowhere band, so being in rock didn't make them cool, but they sure made rock uncool
27:00 <erlich> i was laughing at a funny video last night, i used to follow this guy on YT years ago for music production tips
27:00 <erlich> but he's gained fame for his politics now
27:08 <Tigger_> AIDS Skrillex has his own "screamo" band
28:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92EKfDa3cY
28:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: You look like a girl. (Apr 15, 2014) Length: 3:18 - Category: Music - 1,767,564 views - 40,606 likes (98.1%), 771 dislikes (1.9%)
28:00 <doctor> Probably is only in it for the hope of winning over that scene girl who had him on a leash
28:37 <erlich> i was laughing at a funny video last night, i used to follow this guy on YT years ago for music production tips
28:46 <erlich> but he's gained fame for his politics now
29:11 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92EKfDa3cY
29:16 <BlackDevil> Youtube: You look like a girl. (Apr 15, 2014) Length: 3:18 - Category: Music - 1,767,564 views - 40,606 likes (98.1%), 771 dislikes (1.9%)
29:43 <doctor> Probably is only in it for the hope of winning over that scene girl who had him on a leash
30:00 <erlich> lame his dancing at 1:39
30:00 <erlich> lmao*
30:00 <erlich> he is throwing a lot of PC terms intoi this
31:00 <erlich> he has a song too about a lesbian couple, with one being black
31:00 <erlich> and they hide it from their parents
31:24 <erlich> lame his dancing at 1:39
31:27 <erlich> lmao*
31:36 <erlich> he is throwing a lot of PC terms intoi this
31:51 <erlich> he has a song too about a lesbian couple, with one being black
31:54 <erlich> and they hide it from their parents
35:00 <Tigger_> the documentary on AIDS Skrillex's band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFpAHY4K5g
35:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Strangers Now Ben Interview-YouTube (Apr 23, 2012) Length: 2:10 - Category: Film & Animation - 6,053 views - 16 likes (4.4%), 347 dislikes (95.6%)
36:36 <Tigger_> the documentary on AIDS Skrillex's band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFpAHY4K5g
36:39 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Strangers Now Ben Interview-YouTube (Apr 23, 2012) Length: 2:10 - Category: Film & Animation - 6,053 views - 16 likes (4.4%), 347 dislikes (95.6%)
37:00 <erlich> lots of omega faces
37:57 <erlich> lots of omega faces
38:00 <erlich> so he's no different to those screaming feminists
38:00 <erlich> he did look fairly normal as a kid
38:00 <Tigger_> he was ripping into that cake, disobeying his single mother
38:00 <erlich> lol mommy's boy
38:00 <erlich> heh yeah
38:53 <erlich> so he's no different to those screaming feminists
39:10 <erlich> he did look fairly normal as a kid
39:35 <Tigger_> he was ripping into that cake, disobeying his single mother
39:38 <erlich> lol mommy's boy
39:45 <erlich> heh yeah
40:00 <Tigger_> chris was one of the first to do a cuckstep remix of his screeching, so it's quite possible that chris has pioneered yet another new form
40:00 <erlich> cuckstep
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41:00 <Tigger_> chris was one of the first to do a cuckstep remix of his screeching, so it's quite possible that chris has pioneered yet another new form
41:00 <erlich> is that a new thing, or you made it up
41:00 <erlich> it does have a great soudn to it
41:00 <Tigger_> it's a youtube thing, starting with him
41:47 <erlich> cuckstep
41:52 <erlich> is that a new thing, or you made it up
41:56 <erlich> it does have a great soudn to it
42:00 <Tigger_> it was when the fourth or fifth song was released that it acquired the name cuckstep
42:25 <Tigger_> it's a youtube thing, starting with him
43:00 <erlich> did chris get many views?
43:00 <Tigger_> 150 or so
43:00 <erlich> wow
43:00 <erlich> pretty good
43:26 <Tigger_> it was when the fourth or fifth song was released that it acquired the name cuckstep
44:00 <erlich> i will have to find it
44:00 <erlich> the comments wil be interesting
44:33 <erlich> did chris get many views?
44:42 <Tigger_> 150 or so
44:46 <erlich> wow
44:48 <erlich> pretty good
44:52 <erlich> i will have to find it
44:57 <erlich> the comments wil be interesting
45:00 <Tigger_> chris didn't have a video though, so he's fallen behind the ones who did
45:58 <Tigger_> chris didn't have a video though, so he's fallen behind the ones who did
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47:00 <mrwuf> https://np.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/4c1gas/wp_after_dying_youre_shown_a_choose_your_own/
47:00 <nuthin> whats that mrwuf
47:00 <nuthin> can you please elaborate for us
47:00 <Tigger_> I liked Choose Your Own Adventure books
47:00 <mrwuf> that subreddit is by writers, that story is kinda cool
47:50 <mrwuf> https://np.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/4c1gas/wp_after_dying_youre_shown_a_choose_your_own/
48:00 <Tigger_> mrwuf, listen to chris' song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyZIdbJInM
48:00 <Lish> I have a migraine 
48:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: remix aids skrillex ive done remix 2016 (Mar 19, 2016) Length: 1:08 - Category: Music - 152 views views - 12 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
48:00 <mrwuf> I would only I'm capped until the 1st
48:00 <Tigger_> a shame
48:08 <nuthin> whats that mrwuf
48:15 <nuthin> can you please elaborate for us
48:19 <Tigger_> I liked Choose Your Own Adventure books
48:36 <mrwuf> that subreddit is by writers, that story is kinda cool
48:55 <Tigger_> mrwuf, listen to chris' song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyZIdbJInM
48:59 <Lish> I have a migraine
48:59 <BlackDevil> Youtube: remix aids skrillex ive done remix 2016 (Mar 19, 2016) Length: 1:08 - Category: Music - 152 views views - 12 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
49:00 <erlich> chris gets fairly decent views
49:08 <mrwuf> I would only I'm capped until the 1st
49:15 <Tigger_> a shame
50:00 <mrwuf> I've listened to his music before, he's a talented artist
50:00 <erlich> the door kick frame one i cant stop watching
50:22 <erlich> chris gets fairly decent views
50:57 <mrwuf> I've listened to his music before, he's a talented artist
50:59 <erlich> the door kick frame one i cant stop watching
54:00 <Tigger_> this Choose Your Own Adventure doesnt' seem to have any buried treasure or vampires in it
55:00 <Lish> I didn't get to eat a cupcake
55:00 <Tigger_> why not?
55:00 <Lish> I dunno, just was full by the time it was time for cupcake
55:00 <erlich> Happy Birthday Warren1984 
55:12 <Tigger_> this Choose Your Own Adventure doesnt' seem to have any buried treasure or vampires in it
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55:59 <Lish> I didn't get to eat a cupcake
56:08 <Tigger_> why not?
56:23 <Lish> I dunno, just was full by the time it was time for cupcake
56:25 <erlich> Happy Birthday Warren1984
01:00 <Lish> I got more Easter eggs though 
02:46 <Lish> I got more Easter eggs though
08:00 <Lish> Bernie won Hawaii right
09:00 <Tigger_> yes, and Alaska
09:00 <Tigger_> but still no hope
09:41 <Lish> Bernie won Hawaii right
10:00 <Warren1984> Lish you don't deserve them
10:00 <Lish> There's a bit f hope hehe
10:00 <Lish> I must if people gave them to me warren
10:02 <Tigger_> yes, and Alaska
10:14 <Tigger_> but still no hope
11:00 <Warren1984> Lish you don't deserve them
11:00 <Warren1984> Lish needs a counterbalance reality check
11:13 <Lish> There's a bit f hope hehe
11:20 <Lish> I must if people gave them to me warren
11:50 <Warren1984> Lish needs a counterbalance reality check
12:00 <Tigger_> the numbers just don't add up for Bernie
13:00 <Ozone> Lish
13:00 <Tigger_> for Hawaii, Bernie won 70% of the vote, but is only awarded one delegate, Hillary didn't even get 30%, but she gets 5 delegates
13:13 <Tigger_> the numbers just don't add up for Bernie
14:00 <erlich> Cruz's wife kinda looks like him in drag
14:00 <erlich> their kids must be super homo sapiens
14:00 <Lish> Ozone
14:36 <Ozone> Lish
14:49 <Tigger_> for Hawaii, Bernie won 70% of the vote, but is only awarded one delegate, Hillary didn't even get 30%, but she gets 5 delegates
15:00 <Tigger_> similar story in Washington state, Hillary only got 27% to his 73%, but she gets almost the same number of delegates
15:10 <erlich> Cruz's wife kinda looks like him in drag
15:18 <erlich> their kids must be super homo sapiens
15:21 <Lish> Ozone
16:00 <abortion> http://i.imgur.com/UdT9mfA.jpg
16:08 <Tigger_> similar story in Washington state, Hillary only got 27% to his 73%, but she gets almost the same number of delegates
17:00 <Tigger_> I will never see Mrs. Potatohead the same way again
17:42 <abortion> http://i.imgur.com/UdT9mfA.jpg
18:08 <Tigger_> I will never see Mrs. Potatohead the same way again
20:00 <Warren1984> erlich when was the last time you went to the dentist?
20:00 <erlich> when i had my wisdom teeth out, whcih was last year
20:00 <Warren1984> I mean how often do you see the dentist?
21:00 <erlich> about twice a year
21:00 <erlich> you?
21:00 <Warren1984> once every 2 years
21:08 <Warren1984> erlich when was the last time you went to the dentist?
21:29 <erlich> when i had my wisdom teeth out, whcih was last year
21:49 <Warren1984> I mean how often do you see the dentist?
22:00 <Warren1984> but I see the hygenist every 6 months
22:00 <erlich> but i will probably go again soon when plivent comes over and knocks my block off
22:00 <Warren1984> for a scale and clean
22:00 <Warren1984> how much do you pay for the dentist?
22:00 <erlich> oh right i meant hygienist. but my dentist did do the scaling or whatever it was last time
22:00 <erlich> i dont remember, i have private
22:17 <erlich> about twice a year
22:31 <erlich> you?
22:42 <Warren1984> once every 2 years
22:53 <Warren1984> but I see the hygenist every 6 months
22:56 <erlich> but i will probably go again soon when plivent comes over and knocks my block off
23:00 <Warren1984> for a scale and clean
23:00 <Warren1984> what would be the benefit to me if I became a forky?
23:11 <Warren1984> how much do you pay for the dentist?
23:24 <erlich> oh right i meant hygienist. but my dentist did do the scaling or whatever it was last time
23:32 <erlich> i dont remember, i have private
24:40 <Warren1984> what would be the benefit to me if I became a forky?
25:00 <Warren1984> would it change my ability to be more social
25:00 <erlich> money, routine & structure
25:00 <erlich> it would give you more confidence maybe
25:00 <Warren1984> would it cure my schizophrenia, physical health
25:00 <erlich> i have to go to dad's
25:00 <erlich> bbl
26:00 <Warren1984> ok
26:25 <Warren1984> would it change my ability to be more social
26:28 <erlich> money, routine & structure
26:38 <erlich> it would give you more confidence maybe
26:40 <Warren1984> would it cure my schizophrenia, physical health
26:45 <erlich> i have to go to dad's
26:47 <erlich> bbl
26:50 <Warren1984> ok
30:00 <nuthin> crystal methamphetamine (ICE) will cure your schizophrenia, physical health and general well-being Warren1984.
30:00 <erlich> lol
30:00 <nuthin> I recommend daily dosage to begin of 0.25g
30:00 <nuthin> and increase as required in the first 4 weeks.
30:00 <Warren1984> give you more stress
30:00 <nuthin> no it won't
30:52 <nuthin> crystal methamphetamine (ICE) will cure your schizophrenia, physical health and general well-being Warren1984.
31:00 <nuthin> don't believe the mainstream media.
31:00 <nuthin> it's all bullocks and i guarantee within the first 90 days you will be cured.
31:12 <erlich> lol
31:14 <nuthin> I recommend daily dosage to begin of 0.25g
31:33 <nuthin> and increase as required in the first 4 weeks.
31:38 <Warren1984> give you more stress
31:46 <nuthin> no it won't
31:54 <nuthin> don't believe the mainstream media.
32:00 <nuthin> the government just can't tax it
32:00 <nuthin> that's why there upset
32:00 <nuthin> they arent getting there slice of the pie
32:26 <nuthin> it's all bullocks and i guarantee within the first 90 days you will be cured.
33:00 <Warren1984> give you less time to learn how to cook, run a household, exercise etc
33:00 <nuthin> they just end up putting it back out there on street anyway after the cut it with shit.. after they seize it
33:00 <nuthin> so they make there money that way i suppose
33:31 <nuthin> the government just can't tax it
33:35 <nuthin> that's why there upset
33:43 <nuthin> they arent getting there slice of the pie
34:25 <Warren1984> give you less time to learn how to cook, run a household, exercise etc
34:40 <nuthin> they just end up putting it back out there on street anyway after the cut it with shit.. after they seize it
34:49 <nuthin> so they make there money that way i suppose
35:00 <circle> nuthin
35:00 <circle> why do you use dodo
35:00 <nuthin> coz i dont pay for it, me mums x-partner had it connected
35:00 <nuthin> here
36:00 <nuthin> i moved in
36:00 <nuthin> he left
36:00 <nuthin> years ago
36:00 <nuthin> so its just continued on i guess
36:06 <circle> nuthin
36:08 <circle> why do you use dodo
36:45 <nuthin> coz i dont pay for it, me mums x-partner had it connected
36:47 <nuthin> here
36:50 <nuthin> i moved in
36:55 <nuthin> he left
36:58 <nuthin> years ago
37:00 <Lish> I might have a hot milo 
37:07 <nuthin> so its just continued on i guess
38:00 <Warren1984> In a way I feel discriminated on by people like Lish because they are ignorant about other people's problems
38:44 <Lish> I might have a hot milo
38:57 <Warren1984> In a way I feel discriminated on by people like Lish because they are ignorant about other people's problems
40:00 <Lish> Who's problems am I ignorant against 
40:00 <Warren1984> mine
40:00 <Warren1984> like you say everyone in this channel can work
40:00 <Lish> What problems specifically
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41:00 <Warren1984> and that we are just making excuses not to work
41:00 <Warren1984> schizophrenia, arthritis
41:00 <Lish> Tigger said you don't have schizophrenia 
41:00 <Lish> And people with arthritis can work, I have arthritis 
41:16 <Lish> Who's problems am I ignorant against
41:31 <Warren1984> mine
41:43 <Warren1984> like you say everyone in this channel can work
41:47 <Lish> What problems specifically
41:54 <Warren1984> and that we are just making excuses not to work
42:00 <Warren1984> then when am I medicated for it and why has my Psychiatrist written that on his report
42:00 <Warren1984> I have serve arthritis
42:00 <Warren1984> I can do light physical work
42:00 <Warren1984> like delivering flyers
42:00 <Warren1984> that is what I currently do
42:05 <Warren1984> schizophrenia, arthritis
42:35 <Lish> Tigger said you don't have schizophrenia
42:43 <Lish> And people with arthritis can work, I have arthritis
43:00 <Warren1984> I lose focus when working and often stare into space
43:00 <Warren1984> imagine that with a forklift
43:00 <Warren1984> knocking everything down
43:00 <Warren1984> boss yelling at you
43:00 <Warren1984> making careless mistakes in ordering stuff
43:00 <Warren1984> etc
43:04 <Warren1984> then when am I medicated for it and why has my Psychiatrist written that on his report
43:15 <Warren1984> I have serve arthritis
43:25 <Warren1984> I can do light physical work
43:36 <Warren1984> like delivering flyers
43:43 <Warren1984> that is what I currently do
44:00 <Warren1984> the list goes on
44:00 <Lish> Why do you lose focus 
44:00 <mrwuf> ya working sucks
44:00 <Warren1984> because I am absent-minded
44:00 <Warren1984> Executive Functioning deficiet
44:00 <Lish> Excuses
44:00 <mrwuf> wait... so I'm going to come here and work to make you money, while you pay me a tiny amount, and I'm supposed to be grateful?
44:10 <Warren1984> I lose focus when working and often stare into space
44:16 <Warren1984> imagine that with a forklift
44:22 <Warren1984> knocking everything down
44:27 <Warren1984> boss yelling at you
44:36 <Warren1984> making careless mistakes in ordering stuff
44:46 <Warren1984> etc
44:50 <Warren1984> the list goes on
44:53 <Lish> Why do you lose focus
44:58 <mrwuf> ya working sucks
45:00 <Lish> You don't work mrwuf? 
45:00 <Warren1984> this Lish -> http://www.smartspeechtherapy.com/the-executive-functions-test-elementary-what-slps-and-parents-need-to-know/
45:00 <mrwuf> only when I need to
45:00 <Warren1984> yeah excuses just like your ignorance is an excuse'
45:07 <Warren1984> because I am absent-minded
45:18 <Warren1984> Executive Functioning deficiet
45:28 <Lish> Excuses
45:29 <mrwuf> wait... so I'm going to come here and work to make you money, while you pay me a tiny amount, and I'm supposed to be grateful?
45:53 <Lish> You don't work mrwuf?
46:00 <Warren1984> this Lish -> http://www.smartspeechtherapy.com/the-executive-functions-test-elementary-what-slps-and-parents-need-to-know/
46:00 <mrwuf> my needs are kind of low 
46:00 <Lish> How do you get money 
46:00 <Warren1984> fail to educate yourself who see the world differently or fail to understand their pidicament
46:00 <Warren1984> government
46:00 <mrwuf> atm I'm just living from savings although in a month I'll apply for newstart and start looking for work again
46:05 <mrwuf> only when I need to
46:24 <Warren1984> yeah excuses just like your ignorance is an excuse'
46:51 <mrwuf> my needs are kind of low
47:00 <Lish> Shouldn't you just start looking now
47:00 <Lish> Why do u need Newstart
47:00 <mrwuf> for the money
47:00 <Lish> Just work
47:00 <mrwuf> HaHa 
47:07 <Lish> How do you get money
47:08 <Warren1984> fail to educate yourself who see the world differently or fail to understand their pidicament
47:21 <Warren1984> government
47:28 <mrwuf> atm I'm just living from savings although in a month I'll apply for newstart and start looking for work again
48:00 <mrwuf> I do work out and I read
48:00 <Lish> How much do you get for Newstart 
48:00 <mrwuf> I think its only about 250 a week
48:06 <Lish> Shouldn't you just start looking now
48:11 <Lish> Why do u need Newstart
48:20 <mrwuf> for the money
48:25 <Lish> Just work
48:40 <mrwuf> HaHa
48:57 <mrwuf> I do work out and I read
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49:00 <mrwuf> usually I go about 9months or so on newstart while looking for employment and when they start discussing work for the dole I take a four month hiatus 
49:00 <Solaris> Sbs tv show where savants vs each other
49:00 <mrwuf> usually have a few grand saved by then
49:00 <Solaris> China vs spain now
49:00 <Lish> So you abuse the system 
49:00 <Solaris> Loyal gook vs the lion
49:00 <mrwuf> no I use the system as its intended
49:11 <Lish> How much do you get for Newstart
49:21 <mrwuf> I think its only about 250 a week
50:00 <Lish> How do you survive on $250 a week
50:00 <Lish> That's not how it's intended
50:00 <mrwuf> like a prince really
50:00 <Lish> I doubt it
50:07 <mrwuf> usually I go about 9months or so on newstart while looking for employment and when they start discussing work for the dole I take a four month hiatus
50:21 <Solaris> Sbs tv show where savants vs each other
50:22 <mrwuf> usually have a few grand saved by then
50:31 <Solaris> China vs spain now
50:32 <Lish> So you abuse the system
50:41 <Solaris> Loyal gook vs the lion
50:45 <mrwuf> no I use the system as its intended
51:00 <mrwuf> are you jealous
51:00 <Lish> No 
51:00 <Solaris> Do you payboard
51:00 <Lish> I couldn't survive on 250 a week
51:00 <mrwuf> not really, I pay for my own food 
51:00 <mrwuf> I just help out around the property
51:21 <Lish> How do you survive on $250 a week
51:29 <Lish> That's not how it's intended
51:31 <mrwuf> like a prince really
51:38 <Lish> I doubt it
51:59 <mrwuf> are you jealous
52:00 <Lish> Who do you live with
52:00 <Solaris> If you dont pay rent etc its possible
52:00 <mrwuf> with my parents of course
52:00 <mrwuf> they are retired
52:00 <Lish> Oh 
52:03 <Lish> No
52:11 <Solaris> Do you payboard
52:24 <Lish> I couldn't survive on 250 a week
52:39 <mrwuf> not really, I pay for my own food
52:49 <mrwuf> I just help out around the property
52:58 <Lish> Who do you live with
53:00 <mrwuf> I'm contemplating a move to a city, adelaide or melbourne since brisbane is kind of boring
53:00 <mrwuf> theres not much work here
53:00 <mrwuf> I do mostly programming and its more blue collar stuff, tradies... only even thats in recession 
53:02 <Solaris> If you dont pay rent etc its possible
53:15 <mrwuf> with my parents of course
53:23 <mrwuf> they are retired
53:28 <Lish> Oh
54:00 <mrwuf> occasionally theres contract stuff that pops up but its fairly short term
54:05 <mrwuf> I'm contemplating a move to a city, adelaide or melbourne since brisbane is kind of boring
54:19 <mrwuf> theres not much work here
54:48 <mrwuf> I do mostly programming and its more blue collar stuff, tradies... only even thats in recession
55:16 <mrwuf> occasionally theres contract stuff that pops up but its fairly short term
56:00 <mrwuf> for example I worked a contract to upgrade a few west pac bank branches a while ago that lasted about a week
56:54 <mrwuf> for example I worked a contract to upgrade a few west pac bank branches a while ago that lasted about a week
57:00 <mrwuf> I don't really have any expensive vices either so its fairly easy to survive and even save a hundred dollars or more a week without even trying
57:58 <mrwuf> I don't really have any expensive vices either so its fairly easy to survive and even save a hundred dollars or more a week without even trying
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08:00 <nuthin> as am I mrwuf.. I'm contemplating a move over east to somewhere like melbourne or brisbane
09:00 <nuthin> i've just been given a pay-rise here as they know i'm the beez knees but i believe i could take the eastern seaboard by storm and come out the other end a smooth professional astute businessman
09:11 <nuthin> as am I mrwuf.. I'm contemplating a move over east to somewhere like melbourne or brisbane
10:00 <nuthin> but i would need some sort of relocation package to entice me across there
10:37 <nuthin> i've just been given a pay-rise here as they know i'm the beez knees but i believe i could take the eastern seaboard by storm and come out the other end a smooth professional astute businessman
11:00 <Lish> Do your parents pay for food mrwuf
11:00 <mrwuf> most medium or large businesses will help with relocation and that sounds like a nice plan
11:05 <nuthin> but i would need some sort of relocation package to entice me across there
12:00 <mrwuf> I do my own shopping, or if they are going I just write a list and give cash, I have my own fridge but sometimes they buy me treats
12:00 <Solaris> Which industry are you in nuthin
12:00 <Lish> Unless you're transferring with your current company, and you're amazing. You won't get relocation package
12:00 <mrwuf> so difficult to lose weight when constantly being bombarded with chocolate biscuits and chips tho
12:31 <Lish> Do your parents pay for food mrwuf
12:32 <mrwuf> most medium or large businesses will help with relocation and that sounds like a nice plan
13:00 <nuthin> i'm in the SEO industry Solaris
13:13 <mrwuf> I do my own shopping, or if they are going I just write a list and give cash, I have my own fridge but sometimes they buy me treats
13:28 <Solaris> Which industry are you in nuthin
13:40 <Lish> Unless you're transferring with your current company, and you're amazing. You won't get relocation package
13:44 <mrwuf> so difficult to lose weight when constantly being bombarded with chocolate biscuits and chips tho
13:59 <nuthin> i'm in the SEO industry Solaris
15:00 <mrwuf> so like adwords?
15:00 <nuthin> organic search
15:00 <nuthin> i also do adwords
15:00 <nuthin> remarketing
15:00 <mrwuf> cool
15:00 <nuthin> whatever
16:00 <nuthin> basically they dump everything on me
16:00 <nuthin> because im the only one that knows what to do
16:00 <nuthin> heh
16:00 <mrwuf> is social media one of your responsibilities 
16:00 <nuthin> nah another guy at the agency i work for does that
16:00 <Solaris> Are you sour-
16:00 <nuthin> but ive done social media marketing, affiliate marketing, email marketing
16:18 <mrwuf> so like adwords?
16:29 <nuthin> organic search
16:33 <nuthin> i also do adwords
16:45 <nuthin> remarketing
16:46 <mrwuf> cool
16:50 <nuthin> whatever
17:00 <nuthin> basically they dump everything on me
17:00 <nuthin> i worked with Marek
17:00 <nuthin> aka sour
17:00 <mrwuf> spam!
17:00 <nuthin> :)
17:00 <Solaris> I know they make a killing
17:00 <nuthin> he used to work at the place i worked for here in Perth.
17:00 <nuthin> known him on irc for years before that though
17:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvp97SMZc6M
17:11 <nuthin> because im the only one that knows what to do
17:12 <nuthin> heh
17:21 <mrwuf> is social media one of your responsibilities
17:34 <nuthin> nah another guy at the agency i work for does that
17:47 <Solaris> Are you sour-
17:50 <nuthin> but ive done social media marketing, affiliate marketing, email marketing
17:55 <nuthin> i worked with Marek
17:56 <nuthin> aka sour
17:58 <mrwuf> spam!
17:59 <nuthin> :)
18:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Bill Hicks on the Evils of Marketing (Oct 19, 2012) Length: 2:43 - Category: Comedy - 16,495 views - 61 likes (92.4%), dislikes (7.6%)
18:00 <mrwuf> kinda harsh but funny
18:00 <mrwuf> are you skilled at self promotion and perception management
18:02 <Solaris> I know they make a killing
18:20 <nuthin> he used to work at the place i worked for here in Perth.
18:36 <nuthin> known him on irc for years before that though
18:49 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvp97SMZc6M
18:53 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Bill Hicks on the Evils of Marketing (Oct 19, 2012) Length: 2:43 - Category: Comedy - 16,495 views - 61 likes (92.4%), dislikes (7.6%)
18:55 <mrwuf> kinda harsh but funny
19:00 <mrwuf> which translates into making a good first impression and people skills, dating etc
19:00 <nuthin> few weeks ago i got a 25k payrise now they want me to fucking run the company basically 
19:00 <nuthin> pisses me off
19:00 <nuthin> i was underpaid anyway
19:00 <Solaris> Probablynot worth it
19:39 <mrwuf> are you skilled at self promotion and perception management
20:00 <Solaris> Better than abonus i suppose
20:00 <nuthin> my own freelance biz can generate enough if i didnt have tax problems
20:00 <nuthin> from years back
20:00 <nuthin> but meh
20:00 <nuthin> but its all good
20:00 <nuthin> slowly working my way back
20:04 <mrwuf> which translates into making a good first impression and people skills, dating etc
20:06 <nuthin> few weeks ago i got a 25k payrise now they want me to fucking run the company basically
20:09 <nuthin> pisses me off
20:13 <nuthin> i was underpaid anyway
20:23 <Solaris> Probablynot worth it
20:57 <Solaris> Better than abonus i suppose
21:00 <mrwuf> ya contracting or going into business for yourself is where the money is
21:00 <nuthin> from depression/drug addiction 
21:00 <nuthin> and marriage breakdown
21:00 <nuthin> :D
21:00 <mrwuf> at my last job my boss worked a 3month contract and was paid 120k p/y and that one contract alone netted his company about 300k.. so he quit and started his own business
21:00 <mrwuf> has offices in two cities now and one retail business
21:02 <nuthin> my own freelance biz can generate enough if i didnt have tax problems
21:06 <nuthin> from years back
21:08 <nuthin> but meh
21:33 <nuthin> but its all good
21:43 <nuthin> slowly working my way back
21:51 <mrwuf> ya contracting or going into business for yourself is where the money is
21:55 <nuthin> from depression/drug addiction
22:00 <Solaris> 120k isnt much for management
22:00 <nuthin> just to shed some light 2 years ago i was unemployed shooting crystal meth in a trailer park on a downward spiral out of control
22:00 <mrwuf> he was a IT tech
22:00 <Solaris> Crazy
22:00 <nuthin> for the last 2 years i been working hard]
22:00 <nuthin> regaining my status
22:00 <nuthin> its a fight!
22:00 <nuthin> i tell you
22:00 <mrwuf> excellent work
22:00 <nuthin> everyday battle
22:00 <Solaris> How did u land this job?
22:04 <nuthin> and marriage breakdown
22:04 <nuthin> :D
22:26 <mrwuf> at my last job my boss worked a 3month contract and was paid 120k p/y and that one contract alone netted his company about 300k.. so he quit and started his own business
22:46 <mrwuf> has offices in two cities now and one retail business
23:00 <nuthin> i snapped the fuck out of it
23:00 <nuthin> ive been in the industry since 1999
23:00 <nuthin> i left in 2012
23:00 <nuthin> after marriage breakdown, losing house
23:00 <nuthin> etc
23:00 <nuthin> sunk deep into depression/drug dependency
23:00 <mrwuf> can't keep a good man down!
23:00 <nuthin> wasnt working for 2 years
23:00 <nuthin> then something clicked
23:00 <Solaris> Were u in crocwrest or infosurge too
23:00 <nuthin> :)
23:03 <Solaris> 120k isnt much for management
23:06 <nuthin> just to shed some light 2 years ago i was unemployed shooting crystal meth in a trailer park on a downward spiral out of control
23:12 <mrwuf> he was a IT tech
23:14 <Solaris> Crazy
23:20 <nuthin> for the last 2 years i been working hard]
23:25 <nuthin> regaining my status
23:30 <nuthin> its a fight!
23:33 <nuthin> i tell you
23:35 <mrwuf> excellent work
23:39 <nuthin> everyday battle
23:42 <Solaris> How did u land this job?
23:56 <nuthin> i snapped the fuck out of it
24:00 <nuthin> nah but i know infosurge
24:00 <nuthin> lymcio
24:00 <nuthin> lymco
24:00 <Solaris> A few of here were
24:00 <nuthin> and shit
24:00 <mrwuf> ah your from efenet?
24:00 <nuthin> nah
24:00 <Solaris> Lymco was the funny one
24:00 <nuthin> i was around on austnet 15 years ago..
24:00 <nuthin> didnt code or nothing
24:00 <mrwuf> I thought phase5 was hilarious or mof0
24:03 <nuthin> ive been in the industry since 1999
24:11 <nuthin> i left in 2012
24:18 <nuthin> after marriage breakdown, losing house
24:19 <nuthin> etc
24:28 <nuthin> sunk deep into depression/drug dependency
24:34 <mrwuf> can't keep a good man down!
24:39 <nuthin> wasnt working for 2 years
24:45 <nuthin> then something clicked
24:45 <Solaris> Were u in crocwrest or infosurge too
24:48 <nuthin> :)
24:57 <nuthin> nah but i know infosurge
24:58 <nuthin> lymcio
25:00 <nuthin> haha phase5
25:00 <nuthin> phreak
25:00 <nuthin> he was funny
25:00 <Solaris> He was pretty funny too
25:00 <Solaris> He was in jail for a while
25:00 <nuthin> and owner of #root whats his name
25:00 <nuthin> i got along with him
25:00 <nuthin> #chemicalz used to hang out there .. digi was a smart guy
25:01 <nuthin> lymco
25:02 <Solaris> A few of here were
25:04 <nuthin> and shit
25:06 <mrwuf> ah your from efenet?
25:13 <nuthin> nah
25:15 <Solaris> Lymco was the funny one
25:25 <nuthin> i was around on austnet 15 years ago..
25:35 <nuthin> didnt code or nothing
25:45 <mrwuf> I thought phase5 was hilarious or mof0
25:52 <nuthin> haha phase5
25:54 <nuthin> phreak
25:57 <nuthin> he was funny
25:59 <Solaris> He was pretty funny too
26:10 <Solaris> He was in jail for a while
26:12 <nuthin> and owner of #root whats his name
26:20 <nuthin> i got along with him
26:38 <nuthin> #chemicalz used to hang out there .. digi was a smart guy
30:00 <nuthin> Luster i talked to him a few yrs back on webhostingtalk.com
30:00 <nuthin> when forums were big 
30:00 <nuthin> used to moderate there for a bit back years ago now\
30:53 <nuthin> Luster i talked to him a few yrs back on webhostingtalk.com
31:02 <nuthin> when forums were big
31:16 <nuthin> used to moderate there for a bit back years ago now\
32:00 <nuthin> this weeks gonna be fucked i gotta work on all these key accounts and fix fucking shit and if i didnt company would implode fml 
32:00 <nuthin> already did implode hehe anwyayz
33:00 <nuthin> cant think bout shit, need relax... 
33:00 <nuthin> need some weed n i dunno where i put it
33:10 <nuthin> this weeks gonna be fucked i gotta work on all these key accounts and fix fucking shit and if i didnt company would implode fml
33:28 <nuthin> already did implode hehe anwyayz
34:06 <nuthin> cant think bout shit, need relax...
34:19 <nuthin> need some weed n i dunno where i put it
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49:00 <Warren1984> Lish do you care about the environment?
50:00 <Warren1984> do you care that consumerism is raping mother earth
50:44 <Warren1984> Lish do you care about the environment?
51:00 <Warren1984> big dumps full of mobile phones, tyres, toys etc
51:00 <Lish> Yes I care about the environment
51:00 <Warren1984> of course you wouldn't because it robs you of your material possessions
51:00 <Lish> I recycle my old mobile phones in those planet ark things 
51:31 <Warren1984> do you care that consumerism is raping mother earth
51:56 <Warren1984> big dumps full of mobile phones, tyres, toys etc
52:00 <Warren1984> that is why everyone should work and become materialistic like you, to rape mother earth more
52:00 <Warren1984> everyone else is wrong with their perspectives
52:05 <Lish> Yes I care about the environment
52:18 <Warren1984> of course you wouldn't because it robs you of your material possessions
52:19 <Lish> I recycle my old mobile phones in those planet ark things
52:52 <Warren1984> that is why everyone should work and become materialistic like you, to rape mother earth more
53:00 <Lish> I think you're more materialistic than me
53:00 <Lish> You buy many more things 
53:00 <Lish> Just because I work and have money doesn't mean I'm materialistic 
53:37 <Warren1984> everyone else is wrong with their perspectives
54:00 <Warren1984> no I don't
54:00 <Warren1984> you do it for materialistic motives though
54:00 <Lish> What materialistic motives?
54:00 <Warren1984> going on expensive holidays
54:00 <Warren1984> ps4
54:14 <Lish> I think you're more materialistic than me
54:19 <Lish> You buy many more things
54:31 <Lish> Just because I work and have money doesn't mean I'm materialistic
54:50 <Warren1984> no I don't
55:00 <Warren1984> so why am I making an excuse not to work?
55:00 <Warren1984> because I am not making money
55:00 <Lish> What's wrong with going on holidays and owning a ps4? I don't understand? 
55:00 <Warren1984> because my Psychiatrist is getting a $1000 pay off for putting me on DSP
55:00 <Warren1984> these are just 2 examples
55:00 <Warren1984> you earn more money than me
55:06 <Warren1984> you do it for materialistic motives though
55:21 <Lish> What materialistic motives?
55:34 <Warren1984> going on expensive holidays
55:38 <Warren1984> ps4
55:54 <Warren1984> so why am I making an excuse not to work?
56:00 <Warren1984> so you spend more on material things
56:00 <Warren1984> holidays burns fuel
56:00 <Warren1984> creates air pollution
56:00 <Lish> I carbon offset my flights
56:00 <Warren1984> what is that?
56:00 <Warren1984> so why should I work and be like you?
56:03 <Warren1984> because I am not making money
56:17 <Lish> What's wrong with going on holidays and owning a ps4? I don't understand?
56:29 <Warren1984> because my Psychiatrist is getting a $1000 pay off for putting me on DSP
56:41 <Warren1984> these are just 2 examples
56:46 <Warren1984> you earn more money than me
56:53 <Warren1984> so you spend more on material things
57:00 <Lish> You shouldn't work to be like me
57:00 <Lish> People who are able should work, not taking money from the government 
57:00 <Lish> So that people who really need it can have more 
57:00 <Lish> I pay for you to not work 
57:00 <Warren1984> and who are you to make that decision
57:08 <Warren1984> holidays burns fuel
57:14 <Warren1984> creates air pollution
57:23 <Lish> I carbon offset my flights
57:35 <Warren1984> what is that?
57:43 <Warren1984> so why should I work and be like you?
57:54 <Lish> You shouldn't work to be like me
58:00 <Lish> I talk to you everyday, I know you can work
58:00 <Warren1984> so out of 22 million decisions that decision is yours?
58:00 <Lish> You could do data entry or some other admin job
58:00 <Lish> I don't make those decisions, but it's my opinion
58:00 <Warren1984> 22 million citizens
58:11 <Lish> People who are able should work, not taking money from the government
58:18 <Lish> So that people who really need it can have more
58:24 <Lish> I pay for you to not work
58:26 <Warren1984> and who are you to make that decision
58:54 <Lish> I talk to you everyday, I know you can work
58:58 <Warren1984> so out of 22 million decisions that decision is yours?
59:00 <Warren1984> well have you ever thought a Psychiatrist is more educated and understands things more deeply and thoroughly in that field than you?
59:00 <Lish> He does, I'm sure
59:00 <Lish> But tigger said he didn't say you were schizophrenic 
59:00 <Warren1984> so then why do you get to make the decision over him?
59:02 <Lish> You could do data entry or some other admin job
59:11 <Lish> I don't make those decisions, but it's my opinion
59:13 <Warren1984> 22 million citizens
59:55 <Warren1984> well have you ever thought a Psychiatrist is more educated and understands things more deeply and thoroughly in that field than you?
00:00 <Lish> I don't, I'm offering my opinion 
00:00 <Warren1984> doesn't matter what Tigger_ says, what is written on my DSP statement to the government via my Psychiatrist is what matters
00:00 <Warren1984> but was I asking your opinion
00:00 <Lish> Did you get a second opinion? 
00:00 <Warren1984> yes
00:12 <Lish> He does, I'm sure
00:21 <Lish> But tigger said he didn't say you were schizophrenic
00:30 <Warren1984> so then why do you get to make the decision over him?
00:59 <Lish> I don't, I'm offering my opinion
01:00 <Lish> What did they say
01:00 <Warren1984> same thing
01:00 <Lish> Rightio 
01:12 <Warren1984> doesn't matter what Tigger_ says, what is written on my DSP statement to the government via my Psychiatrist is what matters
01:25 <Warren1984> but was I asking your opinion
01:29 <Lish> Did you get a second opinion?
01:34 <Warren1984> yes
02:00 <Lish> Why do you resent me warren?
02:12 <Lish> What did they say
02:38 <Warren1984> same thing
02:46 <Lish> Rightio
03:00 <Warren1984> see I get the impression that you don't like people who cost you more in tax money because you are cold.. you are opinionated, insensitive, harden, jaded, materialistic and greedy
03:00 <Warren1984> you want more money to yourself
03:00 <Lish> I m opinionated and insensitive
03:00 <Warren1984> because you have little sympathy
03:29 <Lish> Why do you resent me warren?
04:00 <Warren1984> I resent you because you are judgemental
04:00 <Lish> But I don't think the things I do because I want to not pay tax 
04:00 <Lish> I don't want money to go to those who don't need it 
04:00 <Lish> It should be for people who really can't work 
04:00 <Lish> I'm happy to help others less fortunate, but not bludgers or liars 
04:08 <Warren1984> see I get the impression that you don't like people who cost you more in tax money because you are cold.. you are opinionated, insensitive, harden, jaded, materialistic and greedy
04:22 <Warren1984> you want more money to yourself
04:32 <Lish> I m opinionated and insensitive
04:33 <Warren1984> because you have little sympathy
04:55 <Warren1984> I resent you because you are judgemental
04:57 <Lish> But I don't think the things I do because I want to not pay tax
05:10 <Lish> I don't want money to go to those who don't need it
05:16 <Lish> It should be for people who really can't work
05:27 <Lish> I'm happy to help others less fortunate, but not bludgers or liars
06:00 <Warren1984> how can you access me when you haven't got a degree in medicine
06:00 <Warren1984> It's like you think you know better for some reason
06:00 <Solaris> After doctor graduates we will finally have an authority on mental illness here
06:00 <Warren1984> I should do data entry
06:00 <Solaris> And he will pwn jerome
06:52 <Warren1984> how can you access me when you haven't got a degree in medicine
07:00 <Warren1984> do you not think I have done this in the past?
07:00 <Solaris> When jerome accuses everyone of being mental
07:00 <Lish> I just don't think your diagnosis is right warren
07:00 <Lish> That's my opinion 
07:07 <Warren1984> It's like you think you know better for some reason
07:35 <Solaris> After doctor graduates we will finally have an authority on mental illness here
07:43 <Warren1984> I should do data entry
07:45 <Solaris> And he will pwn jerome
07:56 <Warren1984> do you not think I have done this in the past?
08:06 <Solaris> When jerome accuses everyone of being mental
08:28 <Lish> I just don't think your diagnosis is right warren
08:31 <Lish> That's my opinion
09:00 <Warren1984> because you have studied medicine and know better Lish
10:00 <Lish> You're repeating yourself
10:00 <Lish> I have not, but it's my opinion 
10:00 <Warren1984> because you just don't get the hint
10:00 <Lish> I'm entitled to my opinion
10:00 <Warren1984> well your opinion is based on stupidity
10:00 <Lish> Instead of arguing with me, you could be taking calls in a call centre
10:00 <Warren1984> ignorance
10:49 <Warren1984> because you have studied medicine and know better Lish
11:00 <Warren1984> which makes me have no respect for you
11:00 <Lish> I don't care if you have no respect for me
11:00 <Lish> You're threatened by me which is why you're aggressive towards me 
11:00 <Warren1984> then keep your opinions to yourself because I don't want to hear it
11:00 <Lish> Pass
11:06 <Lish> You're repeating yourself
11:15 <Lish> I have not, but it's my opinion
11:19 <Warren1984> because you just don't get the hint
11:25 <Lish> I'm entitled to my opinion
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11:35 <Warren1984> well your opinion is based on stupidity
11:37 <Lish> Instead of arguing with me, you could be taking calls in a call centre
11:40 <Warren1984> ignorance
11:52 <Warren1984> which makes me have no respect for you
12:00 <Warren1984> so fucking thick and stupid
12:00 <Lish> You're being agressive again
12:00 <Warren1984> because I am upset and angry
12:09 <Lish> I don't care if you have no respect for me
12:26 <Lish> You're threatened by me which is why you're aggressive towards me
12:27 <Warren1984> then keep your opinions to yourself because I don't want to hear it
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12:40 <Lish> Pass
13:01 <Warren1984> so fucking thick and stupid
13:30 <Lish> You're being agressive again
13:47 <Warren1984> because I am upset and angry
14:00 <Lish> Why
14:00 <Warren1984> because you are being intolerant
15:00 <Lish> Maybe it's you who's being intolerant, not being respectful of others opinions 
15:00 <Warren1984> but I wasn't asking your opinion
15:00 <Warren1984> I am making an objective statement
15:00 <Lish> You're assuming I don't care about the environment because I earn more money than you
15:09 <Lish> Why
15:28 <Warren1984> because you are being intolerant
15:51 <Lish> Maybe it's you who's being intolerant, not being respectful of others opinions
16:00 <Lish> Which is absolutely ridiculous
16:00 <Warren1984> the reason you want me to work is because you need to have a feeling of control over me
16:00 <Solaris> Whoever buys me a new iphone screen is the least materialistic one
16:00 <Warren1984> you can't tolerate people who see the world differently
16:00 <Lish> Why would you working give me control over you? That makes no sense at all
16:00 <Solaris> The crack is growing everyday
16:13 <Warren1984> but I wasn't asking your opinion
16:22 <Warren1984> I am making an objective statement
16:45 <Lish> You're assuming I don't care about the environment because I earn more money than you
16:50 <Lish> Which is absolutely ridiculous
17:00 <Warren1984> which makes you opinionated
17:00 <Solaris> I might get fingercuts and die
17:00 <Lish> I don't like people who abuse the system 
17:00 <Lish> I don't tolerate them or respect them 
17:20 <Warren1984> the reason you want me to work is because you need to have a feeling of control over me
17:28 <Solaris> Whoever buys me a new iphone screen is the least materialistic one
17:40 <Warren1984> you can't tolerate people who see the world differently
17:47 <Lish> Why would you working give me control over you? That makes no sense at all
17:49 <Solaris> The crack is growing everyday
17:52 <Warren1984> which makes you opinionated
18:00 <Warren1984> you feel your opinion strongly and as a result you are saying I should work because it gives you Psychological control over me
18:06 <Solaris> I might get fingercuts and die
18:10 <Lish> I don't like people who abuse the system
18:21 <Lish> I don't tolerate them or respect them
19:00 <Lish> I really honestly don't care, I think you could work, that's my opinion
19:00 <Warren1984> the fact that your tax money is paying me Psychologically bothers you
19:00 <Lish> But that's not why we are talking like this
19:00 <Lish> You've been hostile to me since I was talking shit about Jen
19:00 <Warren1984> it bothers you to the point in which you want control over me
19:00 <Lish> I don't give a shit about you warren to be honest 
19:09 <Warren1984> you feel your opinion strongly and as a result you are saying I should work because it gives you Psychological control over me
19:59 <Lish> I really honestly don't care, I think you could work, that's my opinion
20:00 <Warren1984> you judge things externally rather than internally
20:01 <Warren1984> the fact that your tax money is paying me Psychologically bothers you
20:15 <Lish> But that's not why we are talking like this
20:23 <Lish> You've been hostile to me since I was talking shit about Jen
20:27 <Warren1984> it bothers you to the point in which you want control over me
20:38 <Lish> I don't give a shit about you warren to be honest
21:00 <Lish> Ok
21:23 <Warren1984> you judge things externally rather than internally
22:02 <Lish> Ok
25:00 <Ozone> warren kicking goals as usual
25:00 <Lish> Annoying the shit out of me
25:57 <Ozone> warren kicking goals as usual
26:00 <Ozone> :)
26:27 <Lish> Annoying the shit out of me
26:53 <Ozone> :)
28:00 <Ozone> he's your biffle
28:00 <mrwuf> warren, you are capable of preforming work if thats something you desire to do
29:00 <mrwuf> most people, as a generality, work because they simply cannot afford not too.. in fact they work with the intention of being able to not work with a nice standard of living, comfortable retirement being the goal
29:20 <Ozone> he's your biffle
29:41 <mrwuf> warren, you are capable of preforming work if thats something you desire to do
30:00 <mrwuf> I think traveling is a really wonderful way to spend money, because its an investment in experience
30:38 <mrwuf> most people, as a generality, work because they simply cannot afford not too.. in fact they work with the intention of being able to not work with a nice standard of living, comfortable retirement being the goal
31:00 <Warren1984> people like Lish want control though, not only are they not willing to pay more tax, but in fact they want to control you for their own benefit
31:00 <mrwuf> not everyone that challenges you is your enemy, just like not every that helps you is a friend
31:00 <Tigger_> I just watched the Steve Jobs movie
31:04 <mrwuf> I think traveling is a really wonderful way to spend money, because its an investment in experience
31:58 <Warren1984> people like Lish want control though, not only are they not willing to pay more tax, but in fact they want to control you for their own benefit
32:00 <Ozone> and?
32:18 <mrwuf> not everyone that challenges you is your enemy, just like not every that helps you is a friend
32:45 <Tigger_> I just watched the Steve Jobs movie
32:54 <Ozone> and?
33:00 <Tigger_> it was quite good, but a bit of an anticlimactic cheat not to show any of his presentations.  the film is set the hour before three different keynote presentations from different Apple eras
33:00 <Solaris> 1080?
33:57 <Tigger_> it was quite good, but a bit of an anticlimactic cheat not to show any of his presentations. the film is set the hour before three different keynote presentations from different Apple eras
34:00 <Tigger_> yes, 1080p, as it is a 2:35 aspect ratio film
34:00 <Lish> Warren1984: I don't want to control you
34:00 <Warren1984> Lish would you be happy if you were in controll and pushed me around so you could earn $200K a year will I earn $30K
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34:33 <Solaris> 1080?
34:50 <Tigger_> yes, 1080p, as it is a 2:35 aspect ratio film
34:52 Join: Lish ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
35:00 <Tigger_> for older films of a 1:33-1:85 aspect ratio I may download 720p rips
35:00 <Lish> Is that the one with Kate wins let tigger? 
35:00 <Solaris> I forget who played jobs in this one
35:00 <Lish> I don't understand your question  Warren1984
35:36 <Lish> Warren1984: I don't want to control you
35:43 <Warren1984> Lish would you be happy if you were in controll and pushed me around so you could earn $200K a year will I earn $30K
35:55 <Tigger_> for older films of a 1:33-1:85 aspect ratio I may download 720p rips
36:00 <Tigger_> yes, though I didn't recognise her at all through the film, and only realised she was in it when the credits were rolling
36:00 <Lish> I want to see that
36:00 <Warren1984> I am not going to work, just for bullies who want lots of money out of you
36:00 <Lish> Tigger_: do you understand warrens question 
36:11 <Lish> Is that the one with Kate wins let tigger?
36:23 <Solaris> I forget who played jobs in this one
36:30 <Lish> I don't understand your question Warren1984
37:00 <Warren1984> experienced it in the past and don't want to repeat that mistake
37:00 <Tigger_> the film is very praiseworthy for not having a single black character in it, not even an extra standing in the background
37:00 <Tigger_> which question?
37:09 <Tigger_> yes, though I didn't recognise her at all through the film, and only realised she was in it when the credits were rolling
37:30 <Lish> I want to see that
37:35 <Warren1984> I am not going to work, just for bullies who want lots of money out of you
37:41 <Lish> Tigger_: do you understand warrens question
37:51 <Warren1984> experienced it in the past and don't want to repeat that mistake
38:00 <Tigger_> the film is very praiseworthy for not having a single black character in it, not even an extra standing in the background
38:00 <Lish> Warren1984  Lish would you be happy if you were in controll and pushed me around so you could earn $200K a year will I earn $30K
38:00 <Tigger_> so you would be his employer?
38:00 <Lish> I have no idea 
38:27 <Tigger_> which question?
38:55 <Lish> Warren1984 Lish would you be happy if you were in controll and pushed me around so you could earn $200K a year will I earn $30K
39:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ Lish thinks that we are all conartists ripping off her tax money
39:00 <doctor> pretty easy to understand, replace will with while
39:00 <Lish> Nope 
39:00 <Lish> Ripping off people who need it 
39:00 <Solaris> Ill dl it tonight
39:08 <Tigger_> so you would be his employer?
39:16 <Lish> I have no idea
40:00 <Warren1984> she is Psychologically cannot handle the fact she is losing control of her tax money
40:00 <Solaris> I like ripping off hollywood
40:00 <Tigger_> the simple response to that is: Would you employ him, even for free?
40:00 <Warren1984> she knows better than the Psychiatrist
40:00 <Lish> Tigger_: maybe
40:00 <Warren1984> I am Lish and know all the definitive answers
40:00 <Lish> Warren1984 is stating he's schizophrenic again 
40:11 <Warren1984> Tigger_ Lish thinks that we are all conartists ripping off her tax money
40:20 <doctor> pretty easy to understand, replace will with while
40:21 <Lish> Nope
40:30 <Lish> Ripping off people who need it
40:42 <Solaris> Ill dl it tonight
41:00 <Warren1984> she is Psychologically cannot handle the fact she is losing control of her tax money
41:00 <doctor> Warren, I for one welcome you to waste all the tax dollars you can get your hands on
41:00 <Warren1984> I believe I know more than a psychiatrist
41:00 <doctor> Let's go buy $500 worth of fish and throw them at cars
41:00 <Warren1984> Lish if you know all the answers then tell me the lotto numbers
41:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, your definitive answer should be "I'll take all the D$P money I want, let this gay planet burn in pink flames, and its ashes be scattered through the cosmos like glitter and sequins."
41:03 <Solaris> I like ripping off hollywood
41:09 <Tigger_> the simple response to that is: Would you employ him, even for free?
41:13 <Warren1984> she knows better than the Psychiatrist
41:25 <Lish> Tigger_: maybe
41:48 <Warren1984> I am Lish and know all the definitive answers
41:49 <Lish> Warren1984 is stating he's schizophrenic again
41:57 <doctor> Warren, I for one welcome you to waste all the tax dollars you can get your hands on
42:00 <doctor> lol
42:00 <Lish> I just think warren makes excuses 
42:00 <Warren1984> I just think Lish is a fuckwit with a low IQ
42:00 <Lish> There are people who need the money more than he does
42:00 <Solaris> I had friends that caught fish and threw them at bikies
42:00 <Lish> Who are struggling because ppl like him choose not to work
42:00 <Solaris> Very dumb
42:00 <doctor> what kind of people?
42:03 <Warren1984> I believe I know more than a psychiatrist
42:12 <doctor> Let's go buy $500 worth of fish and throw them at cars
42:24 <Warren1984> Lish if you know all the answers then tell me the lotto numbers
42:50 <Tigger_> Warren1984, your definitive answer should be "I'll take all the D$P money I want, let this gay planet burn in pink flames, and its ashes be scattered through the cosmos like glitter and sequins."
43:00 <Lish> Soak up all the resources 
43:00 <Warren1984> oh no Lish
43:00 <Lish> People with real disabilities 
43:00 <Warren1984> are you losing control
43:00 <Lish> ADHD is not a legit disability 
43:00 <Warren1984> can't handle it
43:00 <Warren1984> psychologically falling apart
43:00 <Warren1984> everyone else is wrong
43:00 <Warren1984> I am always right
43:00 <Lish> It's my opinion 
43:01 <doctor> lol
43:16 <Lish> I just think warren makes excuses
43:33 <Warren1984> I just think Lish is a fuckwit with a low IQ
43:33 <Lish> There are people who need the money more than he does
43:42 <Solaris> I had friends that caught fish and threw them at bikies
43:47 <Lish> Who are struggling because ppl like him choose not to work
43:48 <Solaris> Very dumb
43:48 <doctor> what kind of people?
43:54 <Lish> Soak up all the resources
44:00 <Warren1984> well your opinion is not appreciated
44:00 <Warren1984> bully someone else
44:00 <doctor> ahh, the quintessential poor layperson who works 9000 hours a week to feed his dying daughter while surviving on 20 cents a fortnight
44:02 <Warren1984> oh no Lish
44:06 <Lish> People with real disabilities
44:08 <Warren1984> are you losing control
44:13 <Lish> ADHD is not a legit disability
44:13 <Warren1984> can't handle it
44:22 <Warren1984> psychologically falling apart
44:31 <Warren1984> everyone else is wrong
44:37 <Warren1984> I am always right
44:42 <Lish> It's my opinion
44:57 <Warren1984> well your opinion is not appreciated
45:00 <Lish> It's not bullying
45:00 <Lish> You attack me everyday first warren 
45:00 <Lish> If you can't take it, don't dish it out 
45:00 <Lish> doctor: people who need it
45:00 <Warren1984> If I wasn't asking your opinion then don't say it
45:12 <Warren1984> bully someone else
45:35 <doctor> ahh, the quintessential poor layperson who works 9000 hours a week to feed his dying daughter while surviving on 20 cents a fortnight
46:00 <Lish> You attacked me about the environment rubbish 
46:00 <Tigger_> but if Warren wasn't on D$P he'd be on NewStart, so what's the difference?
46:00 <Lish> Don't dish it out warren 
46:00 <Lish> He shouldn't be on either
46:00 <Lish> Go work in a call centre or something
46:00 <Tigger_> he did work in a call centre
46:00 <Lish> You don't need to be especially skilled 
46:02 <Lish> It's not bullying
46:09 <Lish> You attack me everyday first warren
46:20 <Lish> If you can't take it, don't dish it out
46:39 <Lish> doctor: people who need it
46:40 <Warren1984> If I wasn't asking your opinion then don't say it
47:00 <Tigger_> but the job was exported to Asia
47:00 <Lish> Get another one
47:00 <Warren1984> Lish should go work at as a prostitute
47:00 <Lish> See he could do it
47:00 <Lish> Why doesn't he
47:00 <Lish> Because it's easier not to
47:00 <Lish> I'm not bullying you  Warren1984
47:00 <Lish> You started this
47:00 <Tigger_> because there are no call centre jobs anymore
47:00 <Lish> With some bullshit about the environment 
47:00 <Lish> There are plenty of the Tigger_
47:00 <mrwuf> a mans gotta eat Mr Lahey
47:00 <Lish> them
47:00 <Tigger_> no, only a subset of what there used to be
47:02 <Lish> You attacked me about the environment rubbish
47:12 <Tigger_> but if Warren wasn't on D$P he'd be on NewStart, so what's the difference?
47:16 <Lish> Don't dish it out warren
47:20 <Lish> He shouldn't be on either
47:28 <Lish> Go work in a call centre or something
47:36 <Tigger_> he did work in a call centre
47:39 <Lish> You don't need to be especially skilled
47:50 <Tigger_> but the job was exported to Asia
47:56 <Lish> Get another one
47:58 <Warren1984> Lish should go work at as a prostitute
48:00 <Lish> Yes, less than before but still many. Very many
48:00 <Tigger_> no
48:00 <Lish> 244 on seek right now in Perth 
48:00 <Lish> Some of those have multiple rol
48:00 <Lish> Roles
48:01 <Lish> See he could do it
48:03 <Lish> Why doesn't he
48:06 <Lish> Because it's easier not to
48:13 <Lish> I'm not bullying you Warren1984
48:16 <Lish> You started this
48:20 <Tigger_> because there are no call centre jobs anymore
48:22 <Lish> With some bullshit about the environment
48:31 <mrwuf> a mans gotta eat Mr Lahey
48:31 <Lish> There are plenty of the Tigger_
48:34 <Lish> them
48:44 <Tigger_> no, only a subset of what there used to be
48:54 <Lish> Yes, less than before but still many. Very many
49:00 <Tigger_> and how long do you think they'll last?
49:00 <Lish> A while, call centre jobs are constantly advertised 
49:05 <Tigger_> no
49:32 <Lish> 244 on seek right now in Perth
49:44 <Lish> Some of those have multiple rol
49:46 <Lish> Roles
50:00 <Lish> Because they have a super high turnaround
50:00 <Tigger_> they are probably mostly cold calling sales jobs though
50:00 <Lish> My company is always advertising for customer service roles 
50:00 <Lish> Still a job 
50:00 <Tigger_> commission pay only
50:00 <Tigger_> so not a real job
50:00 <Lish> Nah that's not generally a thing 
50:00 <Lish> Outbound centres still pay by the hour
50:00 <Lish> With commission on top
50:01 <Tigger_> and how long do you think they'll last?
50:40 <Lish> A while, call centre jobs are constantly advertised
50:53 <Lish> Because they have a super high turnaround
51:00 <Lish> But you'll get minimum wage still
51:00 <Tigger_> no they don't
51:00 <Lish> Which is better than dsp 
51:00 <Lish> I'm not sure why you think you know about these things
51:00 <Tigger_> because I know losers who do these jobs
51:00 <Tigger_> and they tell me about it
51:00 <Lish> not something I would brag about
51:19 <Tigger_> they are probably mostly cold calling sales jobs though
51:21 <Lish> My company is always advertising for customer service roles
51:24 <Lish> Still a job
51:27 <Tigger_> commission pay only
51:36 <Tigger_> so not a real job
51:37 <Lish> Nah that's not generally a thing
51:45 <Lish> Outbound centres still pay by the hour
51:48 <Lish> With commission on top
51:53 <Lish> But you'll get minimum wage still
51:55 <Tigger_> no they don't
51:57 <Lish> Which is better than dsp
52:00 <Tigger_> no they're not bragging
52:00 <Lish> But generally outbound work will pay by the hour, with incentives 
52:00 <Lish> No, you 
52:00 <Tigger_> you are wrong
52:00 <Tigger_> I am not bragging
52:00 <Lish> I'm not wrong, this is stuff I know about
52:06 <Lish> I'm not sure why you think you know about these things
52:15 <Tigger_> because I know losers who do these jobs
52:21 <Tigger_> and they tell me about it
52:47 <Lish> not something I would brag about
52:59 <Tigger_> no they're not bragging
53:00 <Lish> But generally outbound work will pay by the hour, with incentives
53:00 <Tigger_> I don't think you do, because your claims do not align with what I have heard from people who actually do them
53:00 <Lish> Here you go
53:00 <Lish> http://www.seek.com.au/job/30663645?pos=5&type=standout&engineConfig=&userqueryid=184978428209539634&tier=no_tier&whereid=1009
53:00 <Lish> Telstra outbound, go work there warren
53:00 <Tigger_> Telstra would be heavily unionised, and not typical of this field
53:05 <Lish> No, you
53:07 <Tigger_> you are wrong
53:13 <Tigger_> I am not bragging
53:30 <Lish> I'm not wrong, this is stuff I know about
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53:56 <Tigger_> I don't think you do, because your claims do not align with what I have heard from people who actually do them
54:00 <Warren1984> would that give you psychological pleasure Lish if I work there?
54:00 <Ozone> shudder
54:00 <mrwuf> people that want to work can usually find jobs, more a motivational factor 
54:10 <Lish> Here you go
54:13 <Lish> http://www.seek.com.au/job/30663645?pos=5&type=standout&engineConfig=&userqueryid=184978428209539634&tier=no_tier&whereid=1009
54:20 <Lish> Telstra outbound, go work there warren
54:49 <Tigger_> Telstra would be heavily unionised, and not typical of this field
55:00 <mrwuf> if you want something badly enough you'll find a way, if you don't you'll find an excuse, like everything
55:00 <Lish> I don't care to be honest warren
55:00 <Lish> My point is, you could work if you wanted to
55:00 <Lish> Mrwuf, shut the fuck up
55:00 <Warren1984> why you telling me if you don't care?
55:00 <President_Trump> loolollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
55:00 <Tigger_> no, when people say that, they never mean they would personally hire that person, but think someone else should
55:00 <Lish> Because you were saying some nonsense about the environment 
55:00 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump 
55:08 <Warren1984> would that give you psychological pleasure Lish if I work there?
55:17 <Ozone> shudder
55:34 <mrwuf> people that want to work can usually find jobs, more a motivational factor
55:52 <mrwuf> if you want something badly enough you'll find a way, if you don't you'll find an excuse, like everything
55:54 <Lish> I don't care to be honest warren
56:00 <mrwuf> please be kind to Lish she's working a full time job and only has us to keep her company
56:00 <Lish> And then haven't shut up about it
56:00 <Ozone> call centres can't just pay in commision, that's not legal
56:00 <Lish> exactly Ozone
56:00 <Ozone> if they put you in a seat making calls, you have to be paid hourly
56:00 <President_Trump> morning all
56:00 <Tigger_> you become an agent, essentially your own small business.  you don't get paid anything
56:01 <Lish> My point is, you could work if you wanted to
56:05 <Lish> Mrwuf, shut the fuck up
56:09 <Warren1984> why you telling me if you don't care?
56:12 Join: President_Trump ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
56:31 <President_Trump> loolollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
56:36 <Tigger_> no, when people say that, they never mean they would personally hire that person, but think someone else should
56:46 <Lish> Because you were saying some nonsense about the environment
56:48 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump
56:50 <mrwuf> please be kind to Lish she's working a full time job and only has us to keep her company
56:51 <Lish> And then haven't shut up about it
56:56 <Ozone> call centres can't just pay in commision, that's not legal
57:00 <Lish> Yeah and commissions, bonus etc on top. Whatever their incentive schemes are 
57:00 <Ozone> Tigger_, maybe if youre doing it from home, but not in an office environment
57:00 <Warren1984> Lish if you don't care about me, then why do you advertise me a job?
57:00 <Lish> Oh I was making a point to tigger
57:06 <Lish> exactly Ozone
57:16 <Ozone> if they put you in a seat making calls, you have to be paid hourly
57:33 <President_Trump> morning all
57:45 <Tigger_> you become an agent, essentially your own small business. you don't get paid anything
57:51 <Lish> Yeah and commissions, bonus etc on top. Whatever their incentive schemes are
58:00 <mrwuf> our social identify is largely defined by our occupations
58:00 <mrwuf> a cleaner and an engineer both work jobs but sit on different levels of this hierarchy 
58:00 <Tigger_> the most I've known anyone to get paid in terms of a base salary was just some very token retainer, something like $20 a day
58:00 <Ozone> lol
58:00 <doctor> I lack a coherent identity, it's probably why i wound up here
58:14 <Ozone> Tigger_, maybe if youre doing it from home, but not in an office environment
58:21 <Warren1984> Lish if you don't care about me, then why do you advertise me a job?
58:30 Nick: President_Trump is now known as President_1
58:33 <Lish> Oh I was making a point to tigger
58:42 Nick: President_1 is now known as President_Trump
58:50 <mrwuf> our social identify is largely defined by our occupations
59:00 <mrwuf> its kind of a human desire to help others, notice your friends who are in relationships always try to 'fix' you up with someone, its a similar deal when your unemployed
59:00 <Lish> I wouldn't hire warren for my type of job but that's because he's not qualified 
59:00 <Lish> I'd hire him if I worked in data entry, or outbound calls. Something like that. 
59:00 <doctor> I had a door to door sales job once that only paid in commission, I lasted a week
59:00 <doctor> aparently 1 week was a long stint for most people. it takes a certain personality to do hard sales
59:00 <doctor> desperate, pushy types
59:14 <mrwuf> a cleaner and an engineer both work jobs but sit on different levels of this hierarchy
59:19 <Tigger_> the most I've known anyone to get paid in terms of a base salary was just some very token retainer, something like $20 a day
59:42 <Ozone> lol
59:44 <doctor> I lack a coherent identity, it's probably why i wound up here
59:56 <mrwuf> its kind of a human desire to help others, notice your friends who are in relationships always try to 'fix' you up with someone, its a similar deal when your unemployed
00:00 <mrwuf> sales is a really sleazy skill set because your basically ripping people off while wearing a smile
00:00 <Tigger_> one fellow told me that he was selling insurance through cold calling, and his pitch was "Look, I know you don't want this, but I'm on the dole and I get paid if you agree to receive a visit from our salesman, you don't have to buy anything, and I get paid."  and quite often they'd agree
00:00 <doctor> pretty much, yeah
00:00 <doctor> Warren is too nice for a job like that
00:00 <mrwuf> I'm terrible at sales too
00:07 <Lish> I wouldn't hire warren for my type of job but that's because he's not qualified
00:21 <Lish> I'd hire him if I worked in data entry, or outbound calls. Something like that.
00:25 <doctor> I had a door to door sales job once that only paid in commission, I lasted a week
00:45 <doctor> aparently 1 week was a long stint for most people. it takes a certain personality to do hard sales
00:49 <doctor> desperate, pushy types
01:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ Lish's greed in material wealth is affected by people like me on D$P
01:00 <Tigger_> these are jobs that are always available because nobody wants them, and nobody much can do them
01:00 <Lish> I'm not greedy
01:00 <Warren1984> yes you are
01:00 <Lish> I'm not saying I don't want to pay tax 
01:00 <Lish> I'm saying I want it to go to people who properly need it
01:00 <Lish> I'm not against tax 
01:00 <Tigger_> doctor, did you make a sale in that week?
01:00 <Lish> Or some of it to come back to me, so I like don't need to pay $70 to see a doctor 
01:03 <mrwuf> sales is a really sleazy skill set because your basically ripping people off while wearing a smile
01:12 <Tigger_> one fellow told me that he was selling insurance through cold calling, and his pitch was "Look, I know you don't want this, but I'm on the dole and I get paid if you agree to receive a visit from our salesman, you don't have to buy anything, and I get paid." and quite often they'd agree
01:15 <doctor> pretty much, yeah
01:23 <doctor> Warren is too nice for a job like that
01:23 <mrwuf> I'm terrible at sales too
01:58 <Warren1984> Tigger_ Lish's greed in material wealth is affected by people like me on D$P
02:00 <Warren1984> but your perfect so you don't need to see a doctor
02:00 <Warren1984> all of your opinions are 100% perfect
02:00 <Lish> Now you're being ridiculous 
02:00 <Lish> Again
02:05 <Tigger_> these are jobs that are always available because nobody wants them, and nobody much can do them
02:11 <Lish> I'm not greedy
02:16 <Warren1984> yes you are
02:16 <Lish> I'm not saying I don't want to pay tax
02:26 <Lish> I'm saying I want it to go to people who properly need it
02:27 <Warren1984> yes you are
02:29 <Lish> I'm not against tax
02:34 <Tigger_> doctor, did you make a sale in that week?
02:46 <Lish> Or some of it to come back to me, so I like don't need to pay $70 to see a doctor
03:00 <Warren1984> if only everyone could be like Lish
03:00 <mrwuf> the sexual tension is payable 
03:00 <Warren1984> how the world would be a better place
03:00 <mrwuf> palpuable ? (sp?)
03:00 <Tigger_> palpable
03:00 <mrwuf> thank you
03:00 <Warren1984> It's a shame they don't make clones of you Lish
03:00 <Lish> True warren 
03:00 <mrwuf> such a salacious topic, Im getting so aroused
03:09 <Warren1984> but your perfect so you don't need to see a doctor
03:30 <Warren1984> all of your opinions are 100% perfect
03:43 <Lish> Now you're being ridiculous
03:44 <Lish> Again
03:51 <Warren1984> if only everyone could be like Lish
03:55 <mrwuf> the sexual tension is payable
03:58 <Warren1984> how the world would be a better place
04:00 <Warren1984> hey Lish would you like a statue on Tigger_'s roof
04:00 <Lish> No
04:00 <Lish> That's weird 
04:04 <mrwuf> palpuable ? (sp?)
04:10 <Tigger_> palpable
04:22 <mrwuf> thank you
04:30 <Warren1984> It's a shame they don't make clones of you Lish
04:36 <Lish> True warren
04:36 <mrwuf> such a salacious topic, Im getting so aroused
04:58 <Warren1984> hey Lish would you like a statue on Tigger_'s roof
05:00 <mrwuf> I trust I'm not alone in suffering from chocolate regret today
05:00 <Tigger_> how much chocolate did you have?
05:04 <Lish> No
05:06 <Lish> That's weird
06:00 <Tigger_> chocolate regret really starts on Tuesday, when it's on sale
06:00 <mrwuf> a packet of cadbury biscuits and I have a cadbury egg filled with minis that I'm trying my best not to eat
06:00 <mrwuf> its everywhere and I need to go shopping to buy more steaks
06:00 <circle> all cops are fucking scum
06:00 <circle> why do bootlickers defend cops
06:00 <circle> they should be sent to hell
06:29 <mrwuf> I trust I'm not alone in suffering from chocolate regret today
06:43 <Tigger_> how much chocolate did you have?
07:00 <Warren1984> Lish the self righteous bigot
07:00 <Tigger_> circle, did you have a run in with them?
07:00 <Lish> Warren1984: give it a rest? You're out of control tonight 
07:00 <Lish> Don't start shit, if you get hurt over it
07:00 <Warren1984> no I won't
07:01 <Tigger_> chocolate regret really starts on Tuesday, when it's on sale
07:13 <mrwuf> a packet of cadbury biscuits and I have a cadbury egg filled with minis that I'm trying my best not to eat
07:37 <mrwuf> its everywhere and I need to go shopping to buy more steaks
07:39 <circle> all cops are fucking scum
07:43 <circle> why do bootlickers defend cops
07:46 <circle> they should be sent to hell
07:56 <Warren1984> Lish the self righteous bigot
08:00 <circle> nope
08:00 <circle> just read that a guy who killed a home invader in newcastle has been charged with murder
08:00 <mrwuf> circle, cops are such a diverse range of people when you stop and look, they have bad eggs but so does every occupation, I think your problem is with the laws or perhaps authority in general
08:00 <Warren1984> you can't hurt me
08:00 <circle> yet the police will protect their own when they kill in self defence
08:00 <circle> cops need to be sent to hell 
08:00 <circle> as do cop supporters
08:00 <Tigger_> that's the fault of parliament, not the cops
08:00 <circle> no, it is the fault of the cops
08:00 <circle> they don't have to charge him
08:00 <circle> fucking disgusting pigs
08:00 <Warren1984> Lish how are you going to hurt me?
08:07 <Tigger_> circle, did you have a run in with them?
08:15 <Lish> Warren1984: give it a rest? You're out of control tonight
08:25 <Lish> Don't start shit, if you get hurt over it
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08:46 <Warren1984> no I won't
08:50 <circle> nope
09:00 <mrwuf> maybe don't break the laws it's very easy
09:00 <President_Trump> home invasions is an american nigger thing, starting to take off here
09:00 <Warren1984> Lish gives the cold silence
09:00 <Lish> Warren1984: you were getting upset, I meant if you don't want to get upset, then don't start it. 
09:00 <mrwuf> don't speed, its dangerous and expensive anyway, don't murder people, don't assault people, don't steal? which one of these is causing you problems
09:00 <Warren1984> Lish your not perfect so stop trying to pretend
09:01 <circle> just read that a guy who killed a home invader in newcastle has been charged with murder
09:06 <mrwuf> circle, cops are such a diverse range of people when you stop and look, they have bad eggs but so does every occupation, I think your problem is with the laws or perhaps authority in general
09:06 <Warren1984> you can't hurt me
09:07 <circle> yet the police will protect their own when they kill in self defence
09:12 <circle> cops need to be sent to hell
09:20 <circle> as do cop supporters
09:23 <Tigger_> that's the fault of parliament, not the cops
09:27 <circle> no, it is the fault of the cops
09:35 <circle> they don't have to charge him
09:37 <circle> fucking disgusting pigs
09:38 <Warren1984> Lish how are you going to hurt me?
09:46 Nick: erlich is now known as xm
09:52 <mrwuf> maybe don't break the laws it's very easy
10:00 <mrwuf> at worst a encounter with a cop is a waste of time
10:00 <Lish> I'm not
10:00 <Lish> I never said that
10:00 <Tigger_> my objections to Australian police are things like how they are too timid to police western Sydney, but impose fines for petty infractions like parking in the wrong spot, for sake of revenue raising
10:00 <Lish> Anyway warren, shut up
10:00 <Warren1984> Lish secretely loves me
10:00 <mrwuf> yea the traffic cops are the lamest cops around
10:11 <President_Trump> home invasions is an american nigger thing, starting to take off here
10:13 <Warren1984> Lish gives the cold silence
10:14 <Lish> Warren1984: you were getting upset, I meant if you don't want to get upset, then don't start it.
10:29 <mrwuf> don't speed, its dangerous and expensive anyway, don't murder people, don't assault people, don't steal? which one of these is causing you problems
10:47 <Warren1984> Lish your not perfect so stop trying to pretend
10:51 <mrwuf> at worst a encounter with a cop is a waste of time
10:53 <Lish> I'm not
10:55 <Lish> I never said that
11:00 <mrwuf> thats where I think they send the uh how do I put this kindly the less proficient officers?
11:00 <President_Trump> parking officers are council not police arent they?
11:00 <Tigger_> American police have a very difficult job because they have to deal with niggers constantly, with hostile activist groups constantly looking for ways to make an example of individual police
11:08 <Tigger_> my objections to Australian police are things like how they are too timid to police western Sydney, but impose fines for petty infractions like parking in the wrong spot, for sake of revenue raising
11:19 <Lish> Anyway warren, shut up
11:29 <Warren1984> Lish secretely loves me
11:32 <mrwuf> yea the traffic cops are the lamest cops around
12:00 <mrwuf> they are usually pretty easy to avoid conflict with using illusions
12:00 <circle> australian police deserve to burn in hell
12:00 <Warren1984> Lish just remind me when something serious happens in your life i.e. Psychosis, cancer or whatever I be nasty to you like you are to me
12:00 <Lish>  I'm not nasty to you
12:00 <Lish> It's actually the other way around 
12:00 <Lish> Tigger_: is warren nasty to me? 
12:08 <mrwuf> thats where I think they send the uh how do I put this kindly the less proficient officers?
12:31 <President_Trump> parking officers are council not police arent they?
12:48 <Tigger_> American police have a very difficult job because they have to deal with niggers constantly, with hostile activist groups constantly looking for ways to make an example of individual police
12:55 <mrwuf> they are usually pretty easy to avoid conflict with using illusions
12:57 <circle> australian police deserve to burn in hell
13:00 <mrwuf> warren I thought you were studying something?
13:00 <Warren1984> I'll be like Lish you got cancer and only 1 week to live, but you MUST WORK and I INSIST
13:00 <President_Trump> Lish needs to be nicer to warren
13:00 <mrwuf> like soldering and circuits?
13:00 <Tigger_> I would have to examine the matter closely, a #PD Royal Commission
13:00 <Warren1984> I am mrwuf
13:00 <Lish> Warren give it a rest 
13:00 <mrwuf> thats likely going to enable you to find well paid, specialist employment, should the desire for a stable influx of cash become a desire 
13:00 <Lish> It's boring now 
13:13 <Warren1984> Lish just remind me when something serious happens in your life i.e. Psychosis, cancer or whatever I be nasty to you like you are to me
13:25 <Lish> I'm not nasty to you
13:32 <Lish> It's actually the other way around
13:38 <Lish> Tigger_: is warren nasty to me?
13:50 <mrwuf> warren I thought you were studying something?
13:50 <Warren1984> I'll be like Lish you got cancer and only 1 week to live, but you MUST WORK and I INSIST
13:50 <President_Trump> Lish needs to be nicer to warren
13:55 <mrwuf> like soldering and circuits?
14:00 <mrwuf> I dislike customer service type roles too
14:00 <Warren1984> time for a McFlurry oh I better ask Lish because it's her money
14:00 <Lish> Not my money
14:00 <Lish> Someone else's 
14:00 <mrwuf> so highly technical work where I get to go off on my own to solve problems is something I seek in employment
14:13 <Tigger_> I would have to examine the matter closely, a #PD Royal Commission
14:13 <Warren1984> I am mrwuf
14:24 <Lish> Warren give it a rest
14:25 <mrwuf> thats likely going to enable you to find well paid, specialist employment, should the desire for a stable influx of cash become a desire
14:26 <Lish> It's boring now
14:52 <mrwuf> I dislike customer service type roles too
15:00 <doctor> go for it warren
15:00 <mrwuf> honestly theres three requirements for me to happy at a job, and only one requirement needs to be true
15:00 <mrwuf> either working with cool technology where I'm learning stuff, working with cool people, or getting paid boatloads of money
15:00 <Lish> Warren1984 is more evil than you people give him credit for 
15:28 <Warren1984> time for a McFlurry oh I better ask Lish because it's her money
15:43 <Lish> Not my money
15:45 <Lish> Someone else's
15:48 <mrwuf> so highly technical work where I get to go off on my own to solve problems is something I seek in employment
15:58 <doctor> go for it warren
16:00 <doctor> From my perspective, I'll take the side of Warren
16:00 <mrwuf> I think fighting with someone or teasing them when you know they have a diagnosed mental illness is not kind
16:00 <mrwuf> help people or leave them alone, those are my rules
16:12 <mrwuf> honestly theres three requirements for me to happy at a job, and only one requirement needs to be true
16:31 <mrwuf> either working with cool technology where I'm learning stuff, working with cool people, or getting paid boatloads of money
16:37 <Lish> Warren1984 is more evil than you people give him credit for
17:00 <doctor> good rules
17:14 <doctor> From my perspective, I'll take the side of Warren
17:20 <mrwuf> I think fighting with someone or teasing them when you know they have a diagnosed mental illness is not kind
17:50 <mrwuf> help people or leave them alone, those are my rules
18:00 <mrwuf> doctor do you lean more towards intent or effects
18:00 <Lish> doctor: why? Because he seems weaker? 
18:00 <Lish> doctor: he attacks me everyday without provocation
18:00 <mrwuf> the real question is whats upset Lish
18:00 <doctor> effects seem to be the only thing that you can measure morally, intent you just don't know
18:00 <Lish> Nothing has upset me, I don't get upset
18:05 <doctor> good rules
18:54 <mrwuf> doctor do you lean more towards intent or effects
19:00 <mrwuf> whats the issue thats happening in your life thats not getting the attention 
19:00 <Lish> Haha wtf? 
19:00 <mrwuf> so you don't feel emotions?
19:00 <doctor> He doesn't seem weaker, I don't know where you got that opinion from
19:00 <Lish> Warren attacks me, and I'm supposed to just let him because he's retarded 
19:00 <Lish> Then why side with him doctor? 
19:00 <mrwuf> ah nice doctor 
19:00 <Lish> mrwuf: not really
19:20 <Lish> doctor: why? Because he seems weaker?
19:34 <Lish> doctor: he attacks me everyday without provocation
19:35 <mrwuf> the real question is whats upset Lish
19:46 <doctor> effects seem to be the only thing that you can measure morally, intent you just don't know
19:46 <Lish> Nothing has upset me, I don't get upset
20:00 <doctor> And he teases, sure, but that's just his humour. It's never malicious
20:00 <mrwuf> well heres news, you do feel emotions, and they colour your reactions to situations 
20:00 <Lish> doctor: it seems malicious, specifically to me only. Even other people have noticed his maliciousness 
20:00 <mrwuf> become aware of them, and then you have the choice
20:00 <Lish> It's just not necessary 
20:00 <doctor> Maybe you're being too sensitive
20:00 <Lish> Hahaha
20:00 <Lish> Touché 
20:02 <mrwuf> whats the issue thats happening in your life thats not getting the attention
20:12 <Lish> Haha wtf?
20:18 <mrwuf> so you don't feel emotions?
20:19 <doctor> He doesn't seem weaker, I don't know where you got that opinion from
20:30 <Lish> Warren attacks me, and I'm supposed to just let him because he's retarded
20:36 <Lish> Then why side with him doctor?
20:38 <mrwuf> ah nice doctor
20:42 <Lish> mrwuf: not really
21:00 <doctor> And he teases, sure, but that's just his humour. It's never malicious
21:00 <Lish> I doubt it though 
21:00 <mrwuf> I prefer intents over effects
21:00 <Lish> Sensitive isn't my strong point 
21:04 <mrwuf> well heres news, you do feel emotions, and they colour your reactions to situations
21:28 <Lish> doctor: it seems malicious, specifically to me only. Even other people have noticed his maliciousness
21:32 <mrwuf> become aware of them, and then you have the choice
21:35 <Lish> It's just not necessary
21:43 <doctor> Maybe you're being too sensitive
21:47 <Lish> Hahaha
21:49 <Lish> Touché
22:00 <Lish> I doubt it though
22:00 <mrwuf> because I cannot control effects really, the ends justify the means, only my intent matters
22:00 <doctor> I'd like to know the intent of peoples behaviours but it's tricky
22:00 <Tigger_> the road to Hell is paved with good intentions
22:00 <doctor> You base it a lot on intuition which is often wrong
22:00 <mrwuf> its always self interest
22:00 <mrwuf> thats the ego
22:03 <mrwuf> I prefer intents over effects
22:06 <Lish> Sensitive isn't my strong point
22:54 <mrwuf> because I cannot control effects really, the ends justify the means, only my intent matters
23:00 <mrwuf> an ego is useful without one we'd never end up putting food into our own mouths
23:00 <doctor> Yeah, it's good to keep your own intentions in check
23:00 <Lish> Anyway I think warren is aggressive  because of Jen 
23:00 <doctor> Sometimes I think people lack insight into their own behaviours they lose control
23:00 <mrwuf>  why are you taunting him
23:00 <Lish> Who? Me?
23:07 <doctor> I'd like to know the intent of peoples behaviours but it's tricky
23:17 <Tigger_> the road to Hell is paved with good intentions
23:21 <doctor> You base it a lot on intuition which is often wrong
23:21 <mrwuf> its always self interest
23:27 <mrwuf> thats the ego
23:55 <mrwuf> an ego is useful without one we'd never end up putting food into our own mouths
24:00 <doctor> Yeah, it's good to keep your own intentions in check
24:00 <Lish> He's actually taunting me
24:00 <mrwuf> yes people unaware of their own emotions are easily to manipulate 
24:00 <Lish> I have two emotions 
24:00 <President_Trump> doctor loses control on grindr, turns him into a sex crazed ANIMAL
24:00 <Lish> Annoyed, and not annoyed 
24:00 <Lish> Haha
24:15 <Lish> Anyway I think warren is aggressive because of Jen
24:21 <doctor> Sometimes I think people lack insight into their own behaviours they lose control
24:28 <mrwuf> why are you taunting him
24:37 <Lish> Who? Me?
24:53 <Lish> He's actually taunting me
24:57 <mrwuf> yes people unaware of their own emotions are easily to manipulate
25:00 <doctor> lol, my sex drive is dead. i wish i was enthusiastic enough for it
25:00 <Tigger_> lol
25:00 <mrwuf> Lish your usually such a kind and thoughtful force in this channel, you help balance the male personalties, whats wrong
25:00 <mrwuf> this is so unlike you
25:09 <Lish> I have two emotions
25:13 <President_Trump> doctor loses control on grindr, turns him into a sex crazed ANIMAL
25:14 <Lish> Annoyed, and not annoyed
25:17 <Lish> Haha
25:55 <doctor> lol, my sex drive is dead. i wish i was enthusiastic enough for it
26:00 <Lish> Maybe someone remember what mrwuf just said Hahahaha
26:00 <mrwuf> I stopped taking tribulus, and noticed a drop off... have you tried it doctor? its wonderful
26:00 <Lish> It's exactly like me, I am none of those things 
26:00 <mrwuf> oh
26:07 <Tigger_> lol
26:28 <mrwuf> Lish your usually such a kind and thoughtful force in this channel, you help balance the male personalties, whats wrong
26:40 <mrwuf> this is so unlike you
26:57 <Lish> Maybe someone remember what mrwuf just said Hahahaha
27:00 <doctor> What does it do?
27:00 <President_Trump> it gives you cancer, mrwuf to stupid to realise
27:00 <mrwuf> it elevates some LH hormone, and it works in a feedback loop with testosterone levels, so basically it makes your body think it needs to produce more test
27:00 <Tigger_> tribulus?
27:05 <mrwuf> I stopped taking tribulus, and noticed a drop off... have you tried it doctor? its wonderful
27:05 <Lish> It's exactly like me, I am none of those things
27:25 <mrwuf> oh
27:57 <doctor> What does it do?
28:00 <mrwuf> so you end up with elevated levels and its very cheap, most athletes use it, all the AFL players are on it etc
28:00 <mrwuf> not considered doping 
28:00 <doctor> I'll keep an eye out for it
28:00 <mrwuf> the best brand is Now Foods
28:16 <President_Trump> it gives you cancer, mrwuf to stupid to realise
28:25 <mrwuf> it elevates some LH hormone, and it works in a feedback loop with testosterone levels, so basically it makes your body think it needs to produce more test
28:26 <Tigger_> tribulus?
28:54 <mrwuf> so you end up with elevated levels and its very cheap, most athletes use it, all the AFL players are on it etc
29:00 <mrwuf> not considered doping
29:00 <mrwuf> the pills are kind of giant tho horse pills
29:00 <mrwuf> www.nowfoods.com/Tribulus-1000mg-90-Tablets.htm
29:00 <President_Trump> Clubs must seek AFL approval if they wish to use a treatment provider based outside Australia.
29:00 <President_Trump> The Prohibited Treatments List includes peptides CJC 1295 and Hexarelin and other drugs including Cerebrolysin, Tribulus, Prohormones and TA65. 
29:00 <mrwuf> one pill is ideal, two I cannot handle... it makes my blood feel so hot...
29:21 <doctor> I'll keep an eye out for it
29:30 <mrwuf> the best brand is Now Foods
29:55 <mrwuf> the pills are kind of giant tho horse pills
30:00 <mrwuf> oh news to me
30:00 <mrwuf> well you know it works if they ban it
30:07 <mrwuf> www.nowfoods.com/Tribulus-1000mg-90-Tablets.htm
30:21 <President_Trump> Clubs must seek AFL approval if they wish to use a treatment provider based outside Australia.
30:22 <President_Trump> The Prohibited Treatments List includes peptides CJC 1295 and Hexarelin and other drugs including Cerebrolysin, Tribulus, Prohormones and TA65.
30:29 <mrwuf> one pill is ideal, two I cannot handle... it makes my blood feel so hot...
31:00 <mrwuf> oh news to me
31:00 <President_Trump> might as well just take roids then
31:00 <President_Trump> u know it works
31:00 <mrwuf> the intensity is about the same as if you eat a family sized block of chocolate with arosual, with a little self control it makes high intensity exercise much easier
31:19 <mrwuf> well you know it works if they ban it
32:00 <mrwuf> well no, because steroids are injecting yourself with other peoples hormones, tribulus rather stimulates your own production
32:00 <mrwuf> so its not considered a steroid or illegal
32:00 <mrwuf> looking at naked woman has a similar effect on testosterone levels causes them to spike for a hour or so
32:19 <President_Trump> might as well just take roids then
32:23 <President_Trump> u know it works
32:29 <mrwuf> the intensity is about the same as if you eat a family sized block of chocolate with arosual, with a little self control it makes high intensity exercise much easier
33:04 <mrwuf> well no, because steroids are injecting yourself with other peoples hormones, tribulus rather stimulates your own production
33:11 <mrwuf> so its not considered a steroid or illegal
33:45 <mrwuf> looking at naked woman has a similar effect on testosterone levels causes them to spike for a hour or so
37:00 <Tigger_> so boys who look at porn will grow up to be strong, healthy men?
37:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is clip clop a packet sniffer?
38:00 <Warren1984> If you put some apples in a bag would he sniff them
38:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I've sometimes been threatened by self-proclaimed hackers who claimed to be able to sniff packets
38:00 <Warren1984> that is why it's good to have norton 360
38:00 <Warren1984> most hackers can't get passed it
38:10 <Tigger_> so boys who look at porn will grow up to be strong, healthy men?
38:16 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is clip clop a packet sniffer?
38:54 <Warren1984> If you put some apples in a bag would he sniff them
39:00 <Warren1984> I guess those in the government are shown how to
39:09 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I've sometimes been threatened by self-proclaimed hackers who claimed to be able to sniff packets
39:40 <Warren1984> that is why it's good to have norton 360
39:49 <Warren1984> most hackers can't get passed it
40:00 <President_Trump> i used norton about 10 years ago for a while, then i ran a virus check with another program and i had about 30 viruses
40:00 <Warren1984> yeah but that was 10 years ago
40:22 <Warren1984> I guess those in the government are shown how to
41:00 <Warren1984> these days most virus scanners are the same
41:00 <Warren1984> trend and norton seem to be the top retail in selling
41:00 <Tigger_> Norton and McAfee were worse than having an actual virus
41:17 <President_Trump> i used norton about 10 years ago for a while, then i ran a virus check with another program and i had about 30 viruses
41:38 <Warren1984> yeah but that was 10 years ago
41:51 <Warren1984> these days most virus scanners are the same
42:00 <Warren1984> Norton cost me $129
42:00 <Warren1984> viruses only make a small percentage of security threats
42:00 <Tigger_> Avast cost me $0
42:00 <mrwuf> oh if your from down south, around victoria you will already know the tribulus plant... its more common name is bindii... its that ground covering that produces that terribly weaponised seed disperence technique
42:00 <Warren1984> very small percentage
42:00 <President_Trump> http://downtrend.com/71superb/al-sharpton-promises-to-leave-america-if-donald-trump-wins-the-presidency
42:00 <Warren1984> that is because Avast is just a virus scanner
42:00 <Warren1984> not a complete security thing
42:12 <Warren1984> trend and norton seem to be the top retail in selling
42:33 <Tigger_> Norton and McAfee were worse than having an actual virus
42:51 <Warren1984> Norton cost me $129
43:00 <Tigger_> I hope he goes to Africa
43:00 <President_Trump> Warren1984 'complete security things' slow your computer down
43:00 <mrwuf> well looking at porn will increase your testosterone, theres medical studies that have proved this, however masutbating will deplete your body of these same hormones
43:10 <Warren1984> viruses only make a small percentage of security threats
43:11 <Tigger_> Avast cost me $0
43:15 <mrwuf> oh if your from down south, around victoria you will already know the tribulus plant... its more common name is bindii... its that ground covering that produces that terribly weaponised seed disperence technique
43:16 <Warren1984> very small percentage
43:25 <President_Trump> http://downtrend.com/71superb/al-sharpton-promises-to-leave-america-if-donald-trump-wins-the-presidency
43:35 <Warren1984> that is because Avast is just a virus scanner
43:43 <Warren1984> not a complete security thing
43:51 <Tigger_> I hope he goes to Africa
44:00 <mrwuf> so its a perilous proposition that requires self control to ride
44:00 <Tigger_> the best body builders look at porn all day long, but don't act on it
44:00 <Warren1984> fuck my teeth hurt
44:00 <mrwuf> more like before a workout, or between sets
44:00 <mrwuf> for motivator
44:02 <President_Trump> Warren1984 'complete security things' slow your computer down
44:12 <mrwuf> well looking at porn will increase your testosterone, theres medical studies that have proved this, however masutbating will deplete your body of these same hormones
44:53 <mrwuf> so its a perilous proposition that requires self control to ride
45:00 <President_Trump> when is the best time to masturbate mrwuf?
45:00 <mrwuf> a similar effect happens on irc
45:00 <Warren1984> they seem to be very sensitive sine the dental hygenist cleaned them
45:00 <Warren1984> simce
45:00 <Warren1984> since
45:00 <Tigger_> during the full moon
45:17 <Tigger_> the best body builders look at porn all day long, but don't act on it
45:29 <Warren1984> fuck my teeth hurt
45:37 <mrwuf> more like before a workout, or between sets
45:43 <mrwuf> for motivator
45:52 <President_Trump> when is the best time to masturbate mrwuf?
45:55 <mrwuf> a similar effect happens on irc
45:57 <Warren1984> they seem to be very sensitive sine the dental hygenist cleaned them
46:00 <mrwuf> what we experience daily is men who have spent the last hour masturbating themselves completely into depleted hormonal states, then they come here to argue or attempt to dominate other men, in order to feel less like a loser, because the physiology thats happen is they're elevating their testosterone, and usually fighting other males for access to woman in a natural setting
46:00 <Tigger_> who are you thinking of in particular?
46:01 <Warren1984> simce
46:04 <Warren1984> since
46:30 <Tigger_> during the full moon
47:00 <President_Trump> i think mrwuf is projecting
47:00 <mrwuf> anyone that joins and is immediately hostile
47:00 <Tigger_> name them
47:00 <mrwuf> name and shame?
47:11 <mrwuf> what we experience daily is men who have spent the last hour masturbating themselves completely into depleted hormonal states, then they come here to argue or attempt to dominate other men, in order to feel less like a loser, because the physiology thats happen is they're elevating their testosterone, and usually fighting other males for access to woman in a natural setting
47:32 <Tigger_> who are you thinking of in particular?
47:50 <President_Trump> i think mrwuf is projecting
47:55 <mrwuf> anyone that joins and is immediately hostile
48:00 <Tigger_> yes
48:00 <mrwuf> another slightly interesting piece of information is that females have a stronger sense of smell than males do
48:00 <President_Trump> that is very interesting
48:08 <Tigger_> name them
48:45 <mrwuf> name and shame?
48:53 <Tigger_> yes
49:00 <mrwuf> they can either consciously or subconsciously tell which females around and in their fertile state and guard their men against them instinctively, I know right scientists are researching some far out stuff
49:00 <Tigger_> this might explain Ted Cruz, he masturbates for an hour, then makes futile attempts to dominate Donald Trump
49:00 <doctor> I'm pretty easy going but pretty dominant when it comes to sex
49:00 <mrwuf> and a female can detect by your body odour your hormonal status
49:00 <President_Trump> HE HOLDS THE BIBLE UP THEN HE PUTS IT DOWN AND HE WANKS WANKS WANKS
49:00 <Tigger_> doctor, that's the most startling admission you've made here
49:00 <mrwuf> so basically, females can tell if your lock and loaded or if your a stinky smelling masturbator
49:00 <doctor> Wouldnt surprise me Tigger, he does come across as a bit of a sleaze
49:06 <mrwuf> another slightly interesting piece of information is that females have a stronger sense of smell than males do
49:36 <President_Trump> that is very interesting
50:00 <doctor> lol
50:00 <Tigger_> lol President_Trump 
50:00 <mrwuf> the mind probably views it like, men that smell _good_ and men that stink!
50:00 <President_Trump> doesnt explain why some of them love niggers so much
50:00 <mrwuf> thats a big misconception about testoerstone and aggression, originates from steroid users
50:08 <mrwuf> they can either consciously or subconsciously tell which females around and in their fertile state and guard their men against them instinctively, I know right scientists are researching some far out stuff
50:17 <Tigger_> this might explain Ted Cruz, he masturbates for an hour, then makes futile attempts to dominate Donald Trump
50:18 <doctor> I'm pretty easy going but pretty dominant when it comes to sex
50:22 <mrwuf> and a female can detect by your body odour your hormonal status
50:37 <President_Trump> HE HOLDS THE BIBLE UP THEN HE PUTS IT DOWN AND HE WANKS WANKS WANKS
50:43 <Tigger_> doctor, that's the most startling admission you've made here
50:46 <mrwuf> so basically, females can tell if your lock and loaded or if your a stinky smelling masturbator
50:48 <doctor> Wouldnt surprise me Tigger, he does come across as a bit of a sleaze
50:55 <doctor> lol
50:59 <Tigger_> lol President_Trump
51:00 <mrwuf> see a steroid user is injecting their bodies with hormones and that causes their natural production to plummet, their balls shrink to peas... so they are prone to rage
51:00 <mrwuf> its not that high testosterone level causes you to be aggressive actually its entirely the opposite effect, it causes a calm and confident feeling
51:00 <Tigger_> can they still get erections with all that shrinkage?
51:06 <mrwuf> the mind probably views it like, men that smell _good_ and men that stink!
51:23 <President_Trump> doesnt explain why some of them love niggers so much
51:40 <mrwuf> thats a big misconception about testoerstone and aggression, originates from steroid users
52:00 <mrwuf> low testosterone causes aggression i.e the anger masturbators that come in hot on irc channels and just start attacking
52:00 <mrwuf> no idea
52:00 <President_Trump> you need to tell jerome this mrwuf
52:04 <mrwuf> see a steroid user is injecting their bodies with hormones and that causes their natural production to plummet, their balls shrink to peas... so they are prone to rage
52:30 <mrwuf> its not that high testosterone level causes you to be aggressive actually its entirely the opposite effect, it causes a calm and confident feeling
52:36 <Tigger_> can they still get erections with all that shrinkage?
52:51 <mrwuf> low testosterone causes aggression i.e the anger masturbators that come in hot on irc channels and just start attacking
52:53 <mrwuf> no idea
53:00 <mrwuf> picture the alpha male in a monkey group, he's not acting aggressive its the beta monkeys that argue, he's just the king and he knows it, he's calm, he does what he pleases, he's confident
53:00 <mrwuf> I'm going to make sum tea, ark
53:00 <Tigger_> would he be masturbating while he's attacking people on irc?
53:19 <President_Trump> you need to tell jerome this mrwuf
53:53 <mrwuf> picture the alpha male in a monkey group, he's not acting aggressive its the beta monkeys that argue, he's just the king and he knows it, he's calm, he does what he pleases, he's confident
54:00 <Tigger_> I have seen how the alpha male kangaroo lies under a tree relaxing
54:07 <mrwuf> I'm going to make sum tea, ark
54:08 <Tigger_> would he be masturbating while he's attacking people on irc?
55:04 <Tigger_> I have seen how the alpha male kangaroo lies under a tree relaxing
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