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00:00 <mrwuf> people occasional make the jump from one party to the other without much trouble
00:00 <President_Trump> sounds very boring, glad u are excited by australian politics
01:00 <mrwuf> well what your interested in is gossip 
01:00 <mrwuf> trump has made very few policy statements, a wall
01:00 <mrwuf> this is similar to big brother, survivor, etc its not really informative it just appeals to emotions,
02:00 <Tigger_> a wall, kicking illegals out, banning muslims
02:00 <mrwuf> it's a reality tv show
02:00 <Tigger_> that is three policies
02:00 <Tigger_> what more do you need?
02:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf claims to know everything about the presidential race, but thinks its boring
02:00 <mrwuf> right statements but wheres the policy, wheres the actual details he has listed ideals but its very weak theres nothing but hot air
02:00 <Tigger_> no details are needed
03:00 <President_Trump> lol mrwuf hates trump
03:00 <mrwuf> he's appealing to emotions not releasing policy plans or anything interesting
03:00 <Tigger_> and why are no details needed?  because it is Trump
03:00 <mrwuf> no I don't hate or love any of them
03:00 <President_Trump> do you want him to submit a 500 page document on the wall?
03:00 <mrwuf> its just a tv show thats boring to me
03:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf you hate trump, that's obvious
03:00 <mrwuf> I don't watch reality tv
03:00 <President_Trump> if there were a bunch of lefties in here you'd be raging with them about trump
04:00 <mrwuf> really?
04:00 <President_Trump> of course, you are raging now he has no policies
04:00 <Tigger_> when Bernie or Hillary say they're going to do something, they have to give a highly detailed plan of how they're going to do it, but this is not necessary for Trump, he does great things all the time, we know he can do it
04:00 <mrwuf> yeah be trump fanboys
04:00 <President_Trump> trump has the corporate success on the board already
05:00 <Tigger_> Trump is an achiever
05:00 <mrwuf> slap each other on the back, I don't care
05:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf cant even name who he thinks would make the best president
05:00 <mrwuf> makes no difference to me
05:00 <President_Trump> he is weak like the politicians
05:00 <mrwuf> right but you probably can't name the current prime ministers without goggling if I listed countries, so who cares
06:00 <Tigger_> Trump is saving his best building project for last, the big, beautiful concentration camps
06:00 <President_Trump> gas chambers
06:00 <mrwuf> enjoy the trump circle jerk
07:00 <President_Trump> why would i want to know other countries pm's, only an idiot would want to know that
08:00 <mrwuf> I see politics more as a rational science, you seem to view it more as an emotional  event where you pick side and teams and fight the others, I just don't buy into it is all
08:00 <mrwuf> this is sports to you
08:00 <mrwuf> its more political science to me
09:00 <mrwuf> I enjoy watching the game and learning but I don't invest on any team
09:00 <President_Trump> lol yeah a science
09:00 <Tigger_> big day tomorrow, full of depression and furiosity on the Bernie side, joyous exultation on the Trump side
09:00 <mrwuf> politics is the science of controlling your environment
09:00 <mrwuf> all kinds of cool skills are on display
10:00 <mrwuf> emotional intelligence, facilitating change, etc
10:00 <President_Trump> america with 8 years of trump or 8 years of hillary would be quite different
11:00 <President_Trump> in australia you could argue its much of a muchness
12:00 <mrwuf> no juicy emotional stories
12:00 <President_Trump> the world would be a much different place if obama had never been elected
12:00 <mrwuf> still lots changing tho
13:00 <Tigger_> President John McCain would've launched a different series of useless wars to the ones Obama did
17:00 <Tigger_> but what we can surmise about those who oppose Trump:
17:00 <Tigger_> 1. they want white countries to be swamped by the third world
17:00 <Tigger_> 2. they want muslim terrorists to freely enter
17:00 <Tigger_> 3. they want unemployment to be high, and for industry to move to China
19:00 <doctor> No more cheap Trump mugs or baseball caps!
21:00 <President_Trump> no politician ever does what they say they will when elected, so policy detail is a waste of time
22:00 <President_Trump> trump is genius not wasting time on that stuff
22:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf should already know this
22:00 <mrwuf> trumps business decisions are really bad too
22:00 <President_Trump> yet he is demanding policy details lol
22:00 <mrwuf> like he started a mortgage company RIGHT BEFORE the 2006 housing bust
22:00 <mrwuf> he started his own Trump airline from new york, failed, big money pit
22:00 <Tigger_> Trump is such a bad businessman he is only worth $10 billion
23:00 <mrwuf> his own casino, FAILED
23:00 <mrwuf> if you analyse his business dealings he started with lots of money, lost lots of money, still has money
23:00 <President_Trump> you dont think de niro has ever made a bad movie?
24:00 <mrwuf> he goes from bad move to bad move, his most successful endeavour is arguable his beauty miss america and the apprentice maybe his hotel
24:00 <Tigger_> Internet Explorer isn't very good, Bill Gates is so bad at business
24:00 <mrwuf> that puts him in the same relative orbit and paris hilton except she's more business savvy 
24:00 <mrwuf> so meh
25:00 <President_Trump> rofl
25:00 <President_Trump> no u arent anti-trump at all
25:00 <mrwuf> i'm not pro or anti antyhing, you're pro trump
25:00 <mrwuf> research him
25:00 <President_Trump> his core business is property
26:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should I tell Cathy I am about to committ suicide
26:00 <mrwuf> even the reviews of Trump Steaks is hilariously bad
26:00 <mrwuf> paris hilton has her own successful brand too 
26:00 <mrwuf> both are hotel heirs 
26:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, why would you do that?
26:00 <mrwuf> both self made celebrities
26:00 <Warren1984> nuh jokes Tigger_
27:00 <mrwuf> watching famous americans implode is an american tradition, think micheal jackson, britney spears, etc
27:00 <mrwuf> bill cosby
27:00 <mrwuf> they all get consumed
27:00 <Tigger_> Paris Hilton is a lot smarter than she's given credit for
27:00 <mrwuf> watching trump be digested doesn't appeal much
27:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf has no perspective
27:00 <mrwuf> no ideology no
27:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you did massages as a job would you have a machete on your wall?
28:00 <Tigger_> "Just you wait, the Trump WILL be stumped, any day now, or the day after that!"
28:00 <Warren1984> and chop people's heads off
28:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, does Cathy have a machete?
28:00 <Warren1984> when they are lieing down
28:00 <Warren1984> yes Tigger_
28:00 <President_Trump> plivent warned trump was going to shake things up for the jews two years ago!!
29:00 <Tigger_> why doesn't Bernie just use his Jew World Order connections to win the election?
29:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, how big is Cathy's machete?
32:00 <mrwuf> internal monologue that identifies risk is normal, even useful
32:00 <Warren1984> doctor -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8
32:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Animal Homosexuality Documentary (Jan 8, 2016) Length: 52:08 - Category: Pets & Animals - 398,943 views - 1,274 likes (81.8%), 284 dislikes (18.2%)
32:00 <Warren1984> standard size
33:00 <mrwuf> just need to run them past a realistic filter
33:00 <mrwuf> its very unlikely your head will be chopped off while receiving a massage
33:00 <mrwuf> so it goes to the very back of thoughts
33:00 <Tigger_> what probability would you assign to that?
33:00 <mrwuf> those sorts of thoughts help keep you alive, its the reason we look around before we jump into a fresh body of water
34:00 <mrwuf> the problem is television
34:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8
34:00 <mrwuf> we learn by watching, we copy styles, so if you watch murder mysteries well thats going to leak into your waking consciousness
34:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Animal Homosexuality Documentary (Jan 8, 2016) Length: - Category: Pets & Animals - 398,943 views - 1,274 likes (81.8%), 284 dislikes (18.2%)
35:00 <mrwuf> television, goes without saying, is all completely fake, actors directors, CGI, its all fake
35:00 <mrwuf> but still it permeates our imagination
35:00 <mrwuf> so you have to be conscious of the things you feed your mind
36:00 <mrwuf> I would hazard a guess all those examples of animal homosexuality are in caged environments OR theres some environmental stress like an over abundance of males and lack of females 
36:00 <doctor> animals are huge faggots
36:00 <Warren1984> lol doctor
36:00 <mrwuf> because from natures perspective homosexuality doesn't give us any advantage
37:00 <Warren1984> sex is way more of a want than a need
37:00 <Tigger_> there is one exception, some sheep have been observed to turn permanently gay, even when females are available.  no other species does this
37:00 <mrwuf> its useful if theres too many horny males, instead of fighting to death they might become gay thats reasonable 
37:00 <mrwuf> or if two males imprint on each other because of a controlled environment like a zoo exhibit
37:00 <Warren1984> If sex was only for re-production it would be boring
37:00 <mrwuf> but in the wild, the natural desires are for the opposite sex in order to replicate thats the biological drive
38:00 <mrwuf> if you repress sexual desire it manifests in all sorts of perversions 
38:00 <Warren1984> doctor how is uni?
38:00 <doctor> If there was no pleasure in it most animals would go extinct
38:00 <Tigger_> there is a theory that sheep suffer a neurological disease that made the species jump to humans, who are then turned gay too
38:00 <doctor> Its pretty good, it's given me something to do
38:00 <Warren1984> but what is determined normal and what is not normal
39:00 <Warren1984> like you get people who are sexually into all sorts of stuff
39:00 <mrwuf> its a relative judgement
39:00 <mrwuf> a cultural artifact 
39:00 <mrwuf> its fluid
40:00 <mrwuf> in humans its probably imprinting
40:00 <mrwuf> sometimes a overly dominate mother figure can turn her sons a bit feminine, especially if the male role model is not around
41:00 <mrwuf> sometimes a traumatic experience for woman can lead them to hating the opposite sex
41:00 <mrwuf> its complicated but theres reasons behind everything
41:00 <Warren1984> but if homosexuality was removed as a mental illness from DSM in 1975
41:00 <Warren1984> what about transgender
41:00 <Warren1984> it's so unnatural
41:00 <mrwuf> well thats probably hormonal too
42:00 <Warren1984> but it's unnatural
42:00 <Warren1984> what if people wanted to have sex and marry their pets
42:00 <mrwuf> we each contain both the masculine and feminine hormones within us all, only the degree and amounts vary 
43:00 <Warren1984> the coffin cheaters, dig up dead bodies and cheat on dead wives
43:00 <mrwuf> sexual imprinting happens early on
43:00 <Warren1984> they haven't found a gay gene
44:00 <mrwuf> its when we hit puberty usually and another part of our brain becomes activated
44:00 <Tigger_> sexual imprinting makes homophobia quite rational
44:00 <Warren1984> I don't think homosexual behaviour is learned
44:00 <Warren1984> but who came up with transgender
44:00 <mrwuf> well I'm not sure what is the underlying force
44:00 <mrwuf> maybe a gay person can offer some ideas
44:00 <President_Trump> who taught putin to launch buk missiles at tarryns stinker?
44:00 <Tigger_> stats show that a lot of homos were molested as kids, higher than for straights, so there does seem to be some learned behaviour going on
44:00 <Warren1984> you did President_Trump
45:00 <Warren1984> If you get a hard on to something that means you are that
45:00 <Warren1984> like if you see another man and get a boner then you are gay
46:00 <Tigger_> I can't understand how someone can get turned on by other races
46:00 <Warren1984> but some people see children and get that feeling
46:00 <Warren1984> or dead bodies
46:00 <Warren1984> I do Tigger_
46:00 <Tigger_> how Warren1984?
46:00 <Warren1984> asian chicks have tighter Vaginas
46:00 <Tigger_> you have experience in this area
47:00 <Warren1984> yes
47:00 <Warren1984> but never a white chicks vagina
47:00 <Warren1984> because lish is being mean
47:00 <President_Trump> where are some recent tarryn pics?
47:00 <Warren1984> lish put $10K of cocaine in her vagina
47:00 <Tigger_> what race of penis does Tarryn like best?
47:00 <Warren1984> white
47:00 <Tigger_> only white?
48:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should get an Indian wife
48:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ since you won't breed with another women of another race
48:00 <Warren1984> why does it bother you
48:00 <Tigger_> Indian women are brown though
48:00 <Warren1984> some of them are lighter depending on which part of India
48:00 <President_Trump> where has lamont been? 
49:00 <Tigger_> some, but not many
49:00 <Warren1984> she will make you the best Indian food
49:00 <Tigger_> I prefer to make the food myself
49:00 <Warren1984> you will be shitting blood for a few days
49:00 <Warren1984> that is how good an Indian woman cooks
49:00 <Tigger_> yuck
49:00 <Warren1984> hot curry
50:00 <President_Trump> Marttin have u seen the latest pisstopher video?
50:00 <Tigger_> I don't know if Indian women like white guys anyway, gook girls sure do
52:00 <Marttin> no
52:00 <Marttin> link
52:00 <President_Trump> https://vid.me/cHlW
54:00 <Warren1984> Marttin Ha estado en el observatorio
54:00 <Marttin> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
54:00 <Marttin> how long are his legs
54:00 <President_Trump> Marttin show your mum that video
54:00 <Marttin> did you have fun Warren1984?
54:00 <Marttin> lol
54:00 <President_Trump> tell her 'these are the australians i talk to'
54:00 <Warren1984> lots of fun mar
54:00 <Warren1984> Marttin
55:00 <Tigger_> LOL
56:00 <Warren1984> hoy Soldamos un tablero de 9 voltios PCB que también tenía un color rojo y las luces LED verde
56:00 <President_Trump> Warren1984 this is an english only channel
57:00 <mrwuf> no bueno 
58:00 <mrwuf> lots of our english words are borrow
59:00 <Marttin> Im configurating lubuntu
59:00 <Marttin> I got a terrible virus and I decided to go for linux again
00:00 <mrwuf> theres heaps of french words we use almost everyday
00:00 <mrwuf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_French_origin_(A-C)
03:00 <mrwuf> spanish would be cool to learn
03:00 <mrwuf> mexico, when all the cartel violence blows over, would be a paradise to visit and easily affordable
03:00 <Tigger_> Marttin has always been a quitter, couldn't stick to linux, couldn't stick to being a vegetarian
03:00 <mrwuf> spain has a really relaxed vibe and is beautiful, south america very beautiful
03:00 <Marttin> heheh
04:00 <mrwuf> learning french would be kinda boring since the french seem kind of uppity 
04:00 <Tigger_> how is the cartel violence going to blow over in Mexico?
04:00 <mrwuf> legalisation 
04:00 <Tigger_> legalisation of what?
04:00 <President_Trump> rofl blow over
05:00 <mrwuf> legalisation of all drugs, like prague or portugal 
05:00 <mrwuf> I always forget which
05:00 <mrwuf> america is kind of leading the charge of marijuana legalisation
06:00 <mrwuf> I think medical cannabis is legal now in queensland, expecting to have supply this year
06:00 <Tigger_> actually before Mexican gangs got into drugs, they were into kidnapping, mass kidnapping.  so really illegal drugs have brought about an improvement in Mexico's gangs, now they just kill each other instead of innocents
06:00 <Tigger_> you are getting some medical marijuana?
06:00 <mrwuf> sure whenever you have such a huge wealth gap kidnapping and ransoms will be around
06:00 <mrwuf> me no
07:00 <Tigger_> but you said that the violence will blow over once drugs are legal, why wouldn't they just go back to kidnappings?
07:00 <mrwuf> I don't really have much interest in cannabis I'll probably only use when I can by it at a 711
07:00 <mrwuf> its really complicated I could go into it but its lengthy
08:00 <Tigger_> legal marijuana in Colorado just caused the Mexican gangs to get into heroin instead
08:00 <mrwuf> I'd like to be able to buy cannabis chocolate at bottleshop thats something I'll buy
08:00 <mrwuf> well heroin is on the up because of afganistan but also because of the synthetic narcotics like oxycotin
08:00 <mrwuf> people get hooked
08:00 <mrwuf> on pills
09:00 <mrwuf> well they get prescribed legally first, get hooked, doctor cuts them off, they buy illegally, then realise that these pills are so expensive and heroin is so cheap
09:00 <Tigger_> Mexican gangs are pushing heroin though, they're setting up distribution systems through the US (Trump right again, like always)
09:00 <mrwuf> thats the cycle its discussed on /r/opiods 
09:00 <mrwuf> well heroin is mostly asia and afganistan, besides tasmania thats where production happens
10:00 <mrwuf> theres lots of gangs that control the market
10:00 <mrwuf> if you legalise the market they have to turn legit
10:00 <mrwuf> pay taxes etc
10:00 <Tigger_> no they're growing it in Mexico now, there are places where opium poppies grow well
10:00 <mrwuf> so theres less violence the violence is mostly battling for territory which happens in business too only we benefit as consumers
10:00 <Tigger_> but that didn't happen in Colorado, there are still lots of illegal marijuana dealers not paying any tax
11:00 <mrwuf> yea mexico does produce some black tar heroin
11:00 <mrwuf> well your jumping from lots of different subjects
11:00 <mrwuf> its complicated in american because of the way its being legalised by states, and not at a federal level and the IRS is a federal company
11:00 <mrwuf> cannabis dealers in the states still pay tax its like 40%
12:00 <mrwuf> but banks won't work with them, so its all cash
12:00 <mrwuf> and they still getting raided by federal authorities from time to time
13:00 <mrwuf> in washington cannabis is legal, anyone can buy it now
13:00 <Tigger_> DENVER –  Seeking a safe haven in Colorado's legal marijuana marketplace, illegal drug traffickers are growing weed among the state's sanctioned pot warehouses and farms, then covertly shipping it elsewhere and pocketing millions of dollars from the sale, according to law enforcement officials and court records consulted by The Associated Press.
13:00 <Tigger_> In one case, the owner of a skydiving business crammed hundreds of pounds of Colorado pot into his planes and flew the weed to Minnesota, where associates allegedly sold it for millions of dollars in cash. In another, a Denver man was charged with sending more than 100 pot-filled FedEx packages to Buffalo, New York, where drug dealers divvied up the shipment. Twenty other drug traffickers, many from Cuba, were accused of relocating to Colo
13:00 <Tigger_> rado to grow marijuana that they sent to Florida, where it can fetch more than double the price in a legal Colorado shop.
13:00 <Tigger_> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/28/drug-traffickers-seek-safe-haven-amid-legal-marijuana.html
13:00 <mrwuf> exactly
13:00 <Tigger_> so Colorado hasn't reduced the number of criminals, it has actually attracted criminals from all over
13:00 <mrwuf> prohibition doesn't affect supply only impacts on price
13:00 <Tigger_> ideally the price should be very high
13:00 <mrwuf> well its not really a crime, growing a plant, so its a bit silly isn't it
14:00 <Tigger_> should be the death penalty
14:00 <mrwuf> well prohibition if you really study it you'll notice that only gangs, and paramilitary outfits really profit 
14:00 <mrwuf> when its legal theres regulation, taxes, quality control, for consumers its a better model
14:00 <President_Trump> weak drug laws are why its such a problem
14:00 <mrwuf> they tried alcohol prohibition that lasted a while
14:00 <President_Trump> 5 year sentence to anyone caught dealing, problem solved
15:00 <President_Trump> we were talking about this the other night
15:00 <mrwuf> how about killing drug traffickers?
15:00 <Tigger_> actually the black market cigarette market may actually be bigger than that of illegal drugs
15:00 <mrwuf> see thats sharia law, see how your position syncs up with extremists
15:00 <Tigger_> yes, killing drug traffickers is a good idea
15:00 <mrwuf> cannabis is something that can really help the american economy
15:00 <mrwuf> its something like 1,000 billionaire a year business
16:00 <Tigger_> no it's not anything like that
16:00 <mrwuf> yes it is, I watched a show about it yesterday
16:00 <mrwuf> its growing that fast
16:00 <Tigger_> the most interesting thing to come out of the Colorado experiment is that tax revenues are way lower than was projected, showing that there's not the sort of money in drugs as people assume from watching crime movies
17:00 <Tigger_> this makes sense as it's povo low-skilled, low education people who are the primary market for drugs
18:00 <Tigger_> also why crack dealers almost never become rich, as another example
18:00 <President_Trump> speaking of drugs, a pic i took earlier http://imgur.com/2Mh1blu
19:00 <Tigger_> NH?
19:00 <mrwuf> ah I'm wrong
19:00 <Marttin> lol
19:00 <President_Trump> nerdhacks
19:00 <mrwuf> it says if marijuana is legalised in all states it could reach 35billionare dollars per year
20:00 <President_Trump> so you get a society of stoners
20:00 <mrwuf> would you rather that money going to cartels
20:00 <mrwuf> gangs
20:00 <mrwuf> tax free
20:00 <President_Trump> they will just find something else
20:00 <mrwuf> maybe
21:00 <mrwuf> that fact that our society can handle alcohol, which is arguable the most damaging drug, relative to the rest, shows its pretty strong
22:00 <mrwuf> I think it would change things slightly but not very noticeable because its such a polarised subject the people that don't use now probably won't when its legalised the people already using now will continue and pay taxes
22:00 <Tigger_> Apple sells $70 billion worth of iPhones per quarter
23:00 <mrwuf> and they hardly pay any tax
23:00 <mrwuf> a few million
23:00 <mrwuf> they make about 234billion a year
23:00 <mrwuf> crazy eh
24:00 <Tigger_> yet it puts it into perspective that a single product class from a single company is bigger than the most optimistic projections of drug sales
24:00 <mrwuf> check out how much tax mining companies pay
24:00 <mrwuf> or large media organisations
24:00 <mrwuf> apple pays $193b tax in australia on a $26b revenue
24:00 <mrwuf> sorry 194million 
25:00 <mrwuf> less than 1% tax
26:00 <Tigger_> as for the conflation of alcohol with illegal drugs, one bad thing doesn't justify more bad things, such as if you're going to have a society that has drug use, it's best for hospitals, law enforcement, etc. to limit it to a single drug, as that is the most efficient way of dealing with it
27:00 <mrwuf> imagine the savings in police arrest, court costs, and jail costs
27:00 <President_Trump> the savings would just be wasted else where
28:00 <mrwuf> once people get out of jail getting a job is hard
28:00 <mrwuf> basically a drug arrest, with prison time means they are likely to be on centrelink for rest of their life
29:00 <mrwuf> and it doesn't address their likely drug problem, in fact if anything that traumatic experience will only push them more towards offending
29:00 <mrwuf> its a cycle that destroys lives in its present form, while only profiting criminal elements
29:00 <mrwuf> I think a license would be better for all drugs including alcohol and tobacco
30:00 <mrwuf> so that you have to have a minimum of information on the subjects before you can legally try them
30:00 <mrwuf> and if you develop a problem, theres assistance
30:00 <President_Trump> lol
30:00 <Tigger_> that reminds me, Portugal swept one fact under the carpet about their savings in law enforcement, that it all got spent again on drug treatment and rehab
30:00 <mrwuf> the same mental health system that exists now would be adequate, its already doing that function
31:00 <mrwuf> thats the direction we're headed, change is slow but its occurring 
31:00 <President_Trump> this is starting to sound like kevin rudds education revolution
31:00 <Tigger_> so it's really a shift from spending tax payer money to restrict use of dangerous drugs, to tax payer money to subsidise dangerous drugs
31:00 <mrwuf> if you need to frame this conversation into party politics so you can contribute go ahead
32:00 <mrwuf> its a mental health approach to drugs rather than a confinement 
32:00 <mrwuf> its not really a legal issue at its core its a mental health problem
32:00 <Tigger_> a wonderful policy to pursue is to shut down all govt rehab programs, all methadone clinics, no hospital treatment for drug users, etc.
33:00 <Tigger_> could be huge savings there
33:00 <mrwuf> obesity is another mental health problem, people with no self control, eat too much pleasurable food, its affects their health, costs the health system millions and is a leading cause of death, should obesity be a crime?
33:00 <Tigger_> you need food to live, unlike drugs
33:00 <Tigger_> so false equivalence
33:00 <mrwuf> an addiction is an addiction
34:00 <mrwuf> both hurt your health
34:00 <mrwuf> both shorten your lifespan
34:00 <mrwuf> so lets make obesity a crime?
34:00 <mrwuf> or is obesity a mental health problem stemmed from poor education and poor impulse control
34:00 <Tigger_> if someone eats 100 calories too much per day, in 20 years they'll become obese.  so not equivalent
34:00 <murphey> http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/perth-boy-11-accused-of-esplanade-train-station-murder-inconsolable/news-story/82539bce27c808a333b69d924d6193c5
35:00 <murphey> apparently this kids upset
35:00 <murphey> cause hes in prison
35:00 <murphey> inspite of committing murder
35:00 <mrwuf> lets arrest the fat people and put them in jail
35:00 <mrwuf> they clearly cannot control themselves, to the point its hurting their health
35:00 <mrwuf> costing us so much money in healthcare
35:00 <mrwuf> will that work?
35:00 <Tigger_> you're just being silly
36:00 <mrwuf> self control is the common link here, poor impulse control, lack of education
36:00 <Tigger_> nobody was killed on the roads just because a fat person was behind the wheel
36:00 <Warren1984> my stinker is itchy
36:00 <mrwuf> sure they are
36:00 <mrwuf> probably eating mcdonalds
36:00 <mrwuf> while driving or slurping on a milkshake
37:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf has lost it
37:00 <Tigger_> while watching porn on their laptop
37:00 <mrwuf> anything that is pleasurable has the potential to become an addiction
37:00 <mrwuf> we get addicted to everything, even tv
37:00 <mrwuf> anything that we enjoy
38:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsd2dkOF3-M
38:00 <mrwuf> and sometimes it hurts our health, impacts our community, locking those people up is not really a solution
38:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Animals Documentary: The Extinguished Killing Machine Prehistoric Predator by National Geo (Jun 7, 2015) Length: 01:11:33 - Category: Pets & Animals - 42,454 views - 88 likes (82.2%), 19 dislikes (17.8%)
38:00 <mrwuf> send them to receive nutritional education, give them a plan how to change their behaviours
38:00 <President_Trump> some people enjoy going to work, that should be illegal
39:00 <mrwuf> talk to them about the impacts their addictions are having on themselves and everyone around them
39:00 <President_Trump> yes that would stop someone eating a bowl of icecream
39:00 <mrwuf> obesity and drug addiction at their core stem from the same lack of education, and self control, those personal attributes can be taught and learnt 
39:00 <mrwuf> sure or someone smoking a joint
39:00 <mrwuf> we're talking addictions
40:00 <mrwuf> people drink alcohol on the weekend and still go to work on monday
40:00 <mrwuf> some other people with addictions just can't
40:00 <mrwuf> its not the item thats the problem, its their personal relationship to it, which can be changed
40:00 <President_Trump> lol @ mrwuf
41:00 <mrwuf> gambling is another addiction, same deal
41:00 <Tigger_> gambling isn't equivalent either, you can't die of gambling
42:00 <mrwuf> really? 
42:00 <Tigger_> really
42:00 <mrwuf> well cannabis doesn't kill you either
42:00 <Tigger_> yes, it's deadly
42:00 <mrwuf> really? is that why they are prescribing it as a medicine 
42:00 <Tigger_> it's not a medicine
42:00 <mrwuf> and obesity is not an addiction?
43:00 <Tigger_> He said: "Cannabis is as dangerous as cigarette smoking - in fact, it may be even worse - and downgrading its legal status has simply confused people.
43:00 <Tigger_> "We have a clear public message about cigarette smoking. Every year, the number of smokers gets smaller and the message on packets about the dangers gets bigger.
43:00 <Tigger_> "At present, there is no battle against cannabis and no clear public health message."
43:00 <Tigger_> In today's issue of the British Medical Journal, Prof Henry and other doctors from Imperial College, and St Mary's Hospital, both in London, say cannabis could be a major contributor to UK deaths.
43:00 <Tigger_> Researchers calculate that if 120,000 deaths are caused among 13million smokers, the corresponding figure among 3.2million cannabis smokers would be 30,000.
43:00 <Tigger_> The drug can cause cancer, lung disease and abnormalities associated with serious mental illness.
43:00 <Tigger_> Users are up to six times more likely to develop schizophrenia.
43:00 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-179264/Cannabis-kills-30-000-year.html#ixzz41f8zVlZC 
43:00 <Tigger_> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
44:00 <mrwuf> smoking is dangerous
44:00 <mrwuf> cannabis is usually eaten
44:00 <mrwuf> cancer patients get a little vial they eat or add to food
44:00 <mrwuf> so yea theres harmful ways of consuming drugs, which leads back to prohibition and lack of education
44:00 <Tigger_> or a syringe to inject into their eyeballs
44:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ watch the documentary it's about cats -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsd2dkOF3-M
45:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Animals Documentary: The Extinguished Killing Machine Prehistoric Predator by National Geo (Jun 7, 2015) Length: 01:11:33 - Category: Pets & Animals - 42,454 views - 88 likes (82.2%), 19 dislikes (17.8%)
45:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, there was also a marsupial sabre toothed tiger
45:00 <mrwuf> I think your opinions are really dated, and extremists and the risk is you get left behind
45:00 <mrwuf> our culture has changed, adapt
46:00 <mrwuf> evolve along with it or become a fossil
46:00 <mrwuf> its happening faster too
46:00 <mrwuf> the internet is some sort of culture catalyst 
46:00 <mrwuf> things are probably only going to become faster and faster
47:00 <Tigger_> Donald Trump is the future
47:00 <mrwuf> nah he's dated too
47:00 <mrwuf> tony abbott prime time was probably keating howard years
47:00 <mrwuf> you see how the australian population received his 'I'm the boss' style of leadership
48:00 <mrwuf> and welcomed turnbulls more collaborative approach to decision making, even tho they are spruking the same policies
49:00 <mrwuf> its the generational game being accelerated by the influx of information
51:00 <Tigger_> it is the old style politicians who are dated, like Jeb Bush
33:00 <Marttin> it was games that brought me back to windows tigger
33:00 <Marttin> and games have taken me away
34:00 <Marttin> I downloaded two trainers in two. zips, and one of them had a surprise
34:00 <Marttin> trainers are cheats btw
38:00 <Marttin> it has surprised me to see that a online game I play which requires flash crashes the SO
39:00 <Marttin> though that game didnt exist the last time I was in linux, I never had such problem
39:00 <Marttin> freezings in linux were amazingly weird
39:00 <Marttin> while windows 7 has been improving in that sense
40:00 <Marttin> also a outdated 2d game freezed the computer as well
07:00 <Warren1984> hi all
33:51 Topic Is: Bernie in a last ditch attempt to keep the show on the road, begs on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/48bqz6/reddit_you_have_supported_me_since_this_campaign/
33:51 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Tue Mar 01 08:32:33 2016
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03:17 <Warren1984> hey Glenn
20:04 Nick: ZzZzZz is now known as psidawg
34:25 Nick: damian2 is now known as damian
44:00 <psidawg> hello pplz
44:00 <psidawg> hillary wins 6 states
44:00 <psidawg> YAY
44:38 <psidawg> hello pplz
44:45 <psidawg> hillary wins 6 states
44:47 <psidawg> YAY
53:00 <Tigger_> let me see the results
53:00 <Tigger_> I just got home
53:19 <Tigger_> let me see the results
53:21 <Tigger_> I just got home
56:00 <Tigger_> http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president?lo=ut_d1
56:00 <Tigger_> Bernie only won his home state
56:45 <Tigger_> http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president?lo=ut_d1
56:54 <Tigger_> Bernie only won his home state
57:00 <Tigger_> a very disappointing result for white leftists
57:25 <Tigger_> a very disappointing result for white leftists
58:00 <Tigger_> a very good result for non-white leftists though
58:48 <Tigger_> a very good result for non-white leftists though
00:00 <psidawg> yer only 1
00:00 <psidawg> lol
00:21 <psidawg> yer only 1
00:23 <psidawg> lol
02:00 <Tigger_> Trump steamrolls through, Rubio the last great hope of cuckservatism has flatlined
02:34 <Tigger_> Trump steamrolls through, Rubio the last great hope of cuckservatism has flatlined
04:00 <psidawg> i kinda like rubio
04:00 <psidawg> he's is manly, not in a dickhead way like trump, but honorable way
04:00 <psidawg> ted cruz just looks soft like a homo
04:00 <psidawg> hahaha
04:15 <psidawg> i kinda like rubio
04:39 <psidawg> he's is manly, not in a dickhead way like trump, but honorable way
04:54 <psidawg> ted cruz just looks soft like a homo
04:55 <psidawg> hahaha
05:00 <Tigger_> Rubio is the one with actual gay rumours surrounding him
05:56 <Tigger_> Rubio is the one with actual gay rumours surrounding him
06:00 <Tigger_> but I do not hate Rubio, as he liked DJ Tiesto
06:00 <Tigger_> likes
06:14 <Tigger_> but I do not hate Rubio, as he liked DJ Tiesto
06:19 <Tigger_> likes
07:00 <psidawg> yeh?
07:00 <psidawg> what i'm saying b4 is just from my personal 1st impression as i see them on tv
07:00 <Tigger_> he mentioned Axwell too
07:25 <psidawg> yeh?
07:44 <psidawg> what i'm saying b4 is just from my personal 1st impression as i see them on tv
07:47 <Tigger_> he mentioned Axwell too
08:00 <Tigger_> so I can relate to Rubio, I'd be able to have a non-political conversation with him
08:00 <psidawg> whehttp://www.towleroad.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-gay/
08:00 <psidawg> there's even a pic of him in a foam bath with men hahaha
08:00 <Tigger_> Ben Carson is a vegetarian, so I can relate to him that way
08:35 <Tigger_> so I can relate to Rubio, I'd be able to have a non-political conversation with him
08:40 <psidawg> whehttp://www.towleroad.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-gay/
08:49 <psidawg> there's even a pic of him in a foam bath with men hahaha
09:00 <Tigger_> and Trump is Scottish, so I can relate to him in that way
09:00 <Tigger_> but I can't relate to Democrats at all, nothing in common
09:01 <Tigger_> Ben Carson is a vegetarian, so I can relate to him that way
09:21 <Tigger_> and Trump is Scottish, so I can relate to him in that way
09:43 <Tigger_> but I can't relate to Democrats at all, nothing in common
10:00 <psidawg> u have scottish blooe too tigg?
10:00 <psidawg> blood*
10:00 <Tigger_> yes
10:00 <psidawg> ah ok
10:46 <psidawg> u have scottish blooe too tigg?
10:58 <psidawg> blood*
10:59 <Tigger_> yes
11:00 <psidawg> but there are some scots that dislike trump tho
11:00 <psidawg> saw a four corners episode on him few months back
11:00 <psidawg> how he tried to build that golf course
11:00 <psidawg> and the locals were disapproving of it lol
11:03 <psidawg> ah ok
11:26 <psidawg> but there are some scots that dislike trump tho
11:36 <psidawg> saw a four corners episode on him few months back
11:50 <psidawg> how he tried to build that golf course
12:00 <psidawg> and the locals were disapproving of it lol
12:00 <Tigger_> I can relate to Cruz in the sense that he knows history and philosophy, such as I was surprised when he mentioned the Mensheviks, a name I've never seen outside of a book
12:48 <Tigger_> I can relate to Cruz in the sense that he knows history and philosophy, such as I was surprised when he mentioned the Mensheviks, a name I've never seen outside of a book
13:00 <psidawg> menshevicks?
13:24 <Glenn> You know what the Scots play golf during WQinter with red balls don't you... ?
13:30 <Glenn> ...'cos your balls would be red too if you played golf in nought but a kilt with snow on the ground!
13:58 * Glenn wanders off back to work.
14:00 <psidawg> u mean the boshechicks that took down the russian tsars family?
14:06 <psidawg> menshevicks?
14:19 <psidawg> u mean the boshechicks that took down the russian tsars family?
14:19 <Tigger_> good afternoon Glenn
14:28 <Glenn> Hey Tigger_! :)
15:00 <Tigger_> the Mensheviks were one of the competing socialist parties after a split, not really over ideological issues, but ones of formality.  they took the name "Mensheviks" which roughly translates as 'minority', and so they remained
15:00 <psidawg> oh ok
15:45 <Tigger_> the Mensheviks were one of the competing socialist parties after a split, not really over ideological issues, but ones of formality. they took the name "Mensheviks" which roughly translates as 'minority', and so they remained
16:06 <psidawg> oh ok
17:00 <Tigger_> "Bolsehevik" roughly means 'majority', and so it makes you wonder if their names were self-fulfilling prophecy
17:48 <Tigger_> "Bolsehevik" roughly means 'majority', and so it makes you wonder if their names were self-fulfilling prophecy
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40:00 <okikAndChat271284> bernie won 4 out of 11
40:56 <okikAndChat271284> bernie won 4 out of 11
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42:00 <Tigger_> did he?
42:40 <Tigger_> did he?
43:00 <Marttin> http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president?lo=ut_d1
43:00 <Tigger_> ah, Minessota is now in Bernie's grasp, it wasn't when I last looked
43:00 <Marttin> are the coming ones still black?
43:14 <Marttin> http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president?lo=ut_d1
43:32 <Tigger_> ah, Minessota is now in Bernie's grasp, it wasn't when I last looked
43:40 <Marttin> are the coming ones still black?
44:00 <Tigger_> Colorado is now also with Bernie, wasn't earlier
44:00 <Tigger_> yeah, the southern states where blacks dominate the Democrats are all solidly with Hillary
44:00 <Marttin> im surprised by that, I thought colorado was very rightist
44:19 <Tigger_> Colorado is now also with Bernie, wasn't earlier
44:43 <Tigger_> yeah, the southern states where blacks dominate the Democrats are all solidly with Hillary
44:55 <Marttin> im surprised by that, I thought colorado was very rightist
45:00 <Tigger_> Colorado is full of bong heads
45:00 <Tigger_> interestingly Bernie is leading in Oklahoma now
45:00 <Marttin> i mean, is there many elections left to be held in the south?
45:22 <Tigger_> Colorado is full of bong heads
45:35 <Tigger_> interestingly Bernie is leading in Oklahoma now
45:41 <Marttin> i mean, is there many elections left to be held in the south?
46:00 <Tigger_> yes, plenty of others, like Florida, Mississipi, Louisiana
46:30 <Tigger_> yes, plenty of others, like Florida, Mississipi, Louisiana
47:00 <Tigger_> Bernie could get four states, if the numbers hold
47:29 <Tigger_> Bernie could get four states, if the numbers hold
53:00 <Tigger_> Hillary is on track to get 9 states
53:41 <Tigger_> Hillary is on track to get 9 states
57:00 <Tigger_> Bernie's two biggest mistakes: 1. abandoning his sensible Trump like position on immigration, and 2. giving Hillary a free kick over the email server, that gave her credibility she didn't earn or deserve
57:25 <Tigger_> Bernie's two biggest mistakes: 1. abandoning his sensible Trump like position on immigration, and 2. giving Hillary a free kick over the email server, that gave her credibility she didn't earn or deserve
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03:45 <Glenn> Used to have a cat named Pong-Foot. If you thought about what it did with its feet, you'd know why we called it Pong-Foot. :P
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21:00 <psidawg> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35699349
21:00 <psidawg> Bin Laden left $29m inheritance for jihad
21:00 <psidawg> 4 hours ago
21:00 <psidawg>  From the section Asia
21:00 <psidawg> u would think that it's really the CIA's money
21:34 <psidawg> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35699349
21:47 <psidawg> Bin Laden left $29m inheritance for jihad
21:47 <psidawg> 4 hours ago
21:47 <psidawg> From the section Asia
22:08 <psidawg> u would think that it's really the CIA's money
23:00 <BlackDevil> it is cia's money
23:00 <psidawg> hahaha look at this
23:00 <psidawg> Urged Americans to fight "catastrophic" climate change to "save humanity"
23:00 <psidawg> western media claims that Bin laden was a climate conscious person
23:00 <psidawg> HAHHAHAHAAHA
23:00 <psidawg> load of bs
23:15 <BlackDevil> it is cia's money
23:38 <psidawg> hahaha look at this
23:45 <psidawg> Urged Americans to fight "catastrophic" climate change to "save humanity"
24:00 <Tigger_> `topic Bernie supporters no doubt wish that blacks were counted as 3/5ths a man: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-african-americans-georgia-virginia-220073?lo=ap_b2
24:05 <psidawg> western media claims that Bin laden was a climate conscious person
24:06 <psidawg> HAHHAHAHAAHA
24:11 <psidawg> load of bs
24:16 <Tigger_> `topic Bernie supporters no doubt wish that blacks were counted as 3/5ths a man: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-african-americans-georgia-virginia-220073?lo=ap_b2
26:00 <Tigger_> https://twitter.com/warnerthuston/status/704459835052576768/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
26:48 <Tigger_> https://twitter.com/warnerthuston/status/704459835052576768/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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42:00 <President_Trump> loolololllllllllllllllllllllllll
42:00 <President_Trump> WHO'S PAYING FOR THE WALL??
42:00 <President_Trump> MEXICO!
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42:44 <President_Trump> loolololllllllllllllllllllllllll
42:51 <President_Trump> WHO'S PAYING FOR THE WALL??
42:56 <President_Trump> MEXICO!
44:00 <President_Trump> where's mrswuf?
44:19 <President_Trump> where's mrswuf?
45:00 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump 
46:00 <Tigger_> mrwuf is still hoping for a Jeb comeback
46:00 <President_Trump> he said his preferred candidate was rand paul a month or so ago
46:00 <Tigger_> or Rand
46:07 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump
46:26 <Tigger_> mrwuf is still hoping for a Jeb comeback
46:52 <President_Trump> he said his preferred candidate was rand paul a month or so ago
47:00 <President_Trump> if trump only had 2% of the vote mrswuf would like him for 'shaking up the system'
47:00 <Tigger_> Rubio finally got a state, Minnesota of all places
47:01 <Tigger_> or Rand
47:23 <President_Trump> if trump only had 2% of the vote mrswuf would like him for 'shaking up the system'
47:53 <Tigger_> Rubio finally got a state, Minnesota of all places
48:00 <Tigger_> so loves a failure
48:14 <Tigger_> so loves a failure
51:00 <President_Trump> he got the somali vote
51:15 <President_Trump> he got the somali vote
52:00 <Tigger_> I was wondering about that, as I've read they've sent a lot there
52:00 <President_Trump> he is probably the only one taht bothered to go there
52:00 <Tigger_> though surely Hillary would have them all tied up
52:20 <Tigger_> I was wondering about that, as I've read they've sent a lot there
52:40 <President_Trump> he is probably the only one taht bothered to go there
52:43 <Tigger_> though surely Hillary would have them all tied up
55:00 <President_Trump> i dont know if the losers on fox want trump to lose more or the lefties at cnn
55:57 <President_Trump> i dont know if the losers on fox want trump to lose more or the lefties at cnn
56:00 <Tigger_> Rubio is pretty much out now, he's too far behind to catch up, so what do they want to happen?
56:41 <Tigger_> Rubio is pretty much out now, he's too far behind to catch up, so what do they want to happen?
57:00 <President_Trump> rubio would do better in the northern states than cruz, he bombed out in new hampshire
57:19 <President_Trump> rubio would do better in the northern states than cruz, he bombed out in new hampshire
59:00 <Tigger_> even Kasich managed to come in 2nd in two states today, which is part of the problem for the anti-Trump forces
59:00 <Tigger_> Trump mostly comes in first, or sometimes second, the others are all over the shop
59:00 <President_Trump> he wont quit til after ohio
59:30 <Tigger_> even Kasich managed to come in 2nd in two states today, which is part of the problem for the anti-Trump forces
59:52 <Tigger_> Trump mostly comes in first, or sometimes second, the others are all over the shop
00:00 <Tigger_> Trump is the only popular national figure, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio are just localised power bases
00:08 <President_Trump> he wont quit til after ohio
00:47 <Tigger_> Trump is the only popular national figure, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio are just localised power bases
04:00 <Tigger_> oh actually Trump came third in Minnesota, his first third place
04:00 <President_Trump> carson wants to meet privately with the other candidates before the next debate
04:00 <President_Trump> imagine how sad that meeting would be
04:00 <President_Trump> dr token lecturing them about treating each other with respect
04:26 <Tigger_> oh actually Trump came third in Minnesota, his first third place
04:29 <President_Trump> carson wants to meet privately with the other candidates before the next debate
04:38 <President_Trump> imagine how sad that meeting would be
04:54 <President_Trump> dr token lecturing them about treating each other with respect
05:00 <Tigger_> heh
05:00 <Tigger_> Alaska results coming in, Cruz comes 1st
05:21 <Tigger_> heh
05:33 <Tigger_> Alaska results coming in, Cruz comes 1st
07:00 <Tigger_> that doesn't surprise me too much, the frontier culture states don't respond to Trump as much
08:03 <Tigger_> that doesn't surprise me too much, the frontier culture states don't respond to Trump as much
09:00 <Tigger_> "New York values"
09:00 <President_Trump> they arent bothered much by niggers and terrorists up there
09:16 <Tigger_> "New York values"
09:19 <President_Trump> they arent bothered much by niggers and terrorists up there
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28:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984, heard from Cathy?
28:27 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984, heard from Cathy?
45:00 <Tigger_> `topic All Bernie supporters right now: http://i.imgur.com/AE04EOA.jpg | Bernie supporters wish that blacks were counted as 3/5ths a man: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-african-americans-georgia-virginia-220073
46:06 <Tigger_> `topic All Bernie supporters right now: http://i.imgur.com/AE04EOA.jpg | Bernie supporters wish that blacks were counted as 3/5ths a man: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-african-americans-georgia-virginia-220073
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54:00 <psidawg> some1 should invite african americans to come inhere & see how they'll react to the topic ahaha
54:00 <psidawg> or just some random black peole in general
54:39 <psidawg> some1 should invite african americans to come inhere & see how they'll react to the topic ahaha
54:51 <psidawg> or just some random black peole in general
55:00 <psidawg> niggers will go ape shit and burn tigger's house 
55:00 <psidawg> ahahahah
55:00 <Tigger_> that is very much in line with my expectations
55:24 <psidawg> niggers will go ape shit and burn tigger's house
55:25 <psidawg> ahahahah
56:00 <psidawg> >.<
56:00 <psidawg> i'll do it
56:00 <psidawg> but there's no african channel in austnet lol
56:00 <psidawg> i dont think i've ever seen/known a black person on this server ever
56:11 <Tigger_> that is very much in line with my expectations
56:20 <psidawg> >.<
56:45 <psidawg> i'll do it
56:55 <psidawg> but there's no african channel in austnet lol
57:00 <psidawg> now or 20 years ago
57:00 <Tigger_> a few aborigines
57:00 <Tigger_> but they're different
57:00 <psidawg> yer
57:00 <psidawg> aborinignal actally VERY dislike the africans where i live
57:10 <psidawg> i dont think i've ever seen/known a black person on this server ever
57:15 <psidawg> now or 20 years ago
57:19 <Tigger_> a few aborigines
57:32 <Tigger_> but they're different
57:41 <psidawg> yer
58:00 <psidawg> melb western suburbs
58:00 <Tigger_> I can understand why
58:00 <psidawg> same with pacific islander, they hate sudanese
58:00 <Tigger_> in Logan some islanders killed some abos, and pretty much got away with it
58:00 <psidawg> there was that logan riot few yrs back between them 2
58:09 <psidawg> aborinignal actally VERY dislike the africans where i live
58:17 <psidawg> melb western suburbs
58:27 <Tigger_> I can understand why
58:29 <psidawg> same with pacific islander, they hate sudanese
58:49 <Tigger_> in Logan some islanders killed some abos, and pretty much got away with it
59:00 <Tigger_> the police and justice system were too scared to act on it
59:00 <Tigger_> yes
59:00 <psidawg> i dont mind islanders, they're laid back
59:00 <psidawg> me nxt door is a BIG samoan family, i drink with them pretty much every weekend, they drink nearly everyday tho lol
59:13 <psidawg> there was that logan riot few yrs back between them 2
59:23 <Tigger_> the police and justice system were too scared to act on it
59:30 <Tigger_> yes
59:38 <psidawg> i dont mind islanders, they're laid back
00:00 <psidawg> just dont fuck with islanders, that's my no.1 rule lol, all BIG rugby-like cunts
00:00 <psidawg> haha
00:00 <Tigger_> you're game
00:04 <psidawg> me nxt door is a BIG samoan family, i drink with them pretty much every weekend, they drink nearly everyday tho lol
00:36 <psidawg> just dont fuck with islanders, that's my no.1 rule lol, all BIG rugby-like cunts
00:37 <psidawg> haha
01:13 <Tigger_> you're game
02:00 <Tigger_> islanders were selected for psychopathy, a survival strategy given high population density and limited resources
02:54 <Tigger_> islanders were selected for psychopathy, a survival strategy given high population density and limited resources
03:00 <Tigger_> abos in contrast are introverted when sober, tracking skills require a very withdrawn personality
04:00 <psidawg> yeah u would think how they could survive is some of those tiny desolate islands in the south pacific for thousands of yr b4 captain cook came
04:00 <psidawg> not just survive, but they thrive
04:07 <Tigger_> abos in contrast are introverted when sober, tracking skills require a very withdrawn personality
04:40 <psidawg> yeah u would think how they could survive is some of those tiny desolate islands in the south pacific for thousands of yr b4 captain cook came
04:48 <psidawg> not just survive, but they thrive
06:00 <Tigger_> Fiji had a population of about 250,000 when they were discovered by white explorers, compare to Australia where the entire abo population was about 250,00
06:00 <Tigger_> 250,000
06:47 <Tigger_> Fiji had a population of about 250,000 when they were discovered by white explorers, compare to Australia where the entire abo population was about 250,00
06:50 <Tigger_> 250,000
07:00 <Tigger_> so a lot of cannibalism going on in Fiji
07:21 <Tigger_> so a lot of cannibalism going on in Fiji
10:00 <psidawg> who's a mason in here?
10:37 <psidawg> who's a mason in here?
11:00 <Tigger_> I don't think we have any freemasons
11:00 <Tigger_> a few jews, if that helps
11:37 <Tigger_> I don't think we have any freemasons
11:48 <Tigger_> a few jews, if that helps
12:00 <psidawg> who's jewish?
12:00 <Tigger_> skip
12:00 <psidawg> masons are just gnostic jews to me
12:00 <psidawg> mason's idealogogy is based on the kaballah
12:16 <psidawg> who's jewish?
12:26 <Tigger_> skip
12:35 <psidawg> masons are just gnostic jews to me
12:50 <psidawg> mason's idealogogy is based on the kaballah
13:00 <psidawg> a mystic jewish philosophy
13:36 <psidawg> a mystic jewish philosophy
14:00 <Tigger_> freemasonry is syncretic of a lot of ideas
14:22 <Tigger_> freemasonry is syncretic of a lot of ideas
21:00 <President_Trump> trump should keep doing his 35 minute q&a's with the media after each election
21:00 <President_Trump> rather than a 10 min rah rah speech
21:44 <President_Trump> trump should keep doing his 35 minute q&a's with the media after each election
21:51 <President_Trump> rather than a 10 min rah rah speech
26:00 <Tigger_> he needs to rub it into cuckservatives that Jeb took a bullet for Rubio, for no advantage whatsoever
26:44 <Tigger_> he needs to rub it into cuckservatives that Jeb took a bullet for Rubio, for no advantage whatsoever
27:00 <President_Trump> trump wasnt really getting in the mid-high 40's until jeb dropped out
27:18 <President_Trump> trump wasnt really getting in the mid-high 40's until jeb dropped out
30:00 <Tigger_> he got 49% in Massachussets
30:56 <Tigger_> he got 49% in Massachussets
39:25 Join: G0BL1N ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
50:00 <Tigger_> Bernie supporters learning what blacks are like: http://i.imgur.com/XTkBMIs.jpg
50:45 <Tigger_> Bernie supporters learning what blacks are like: http://i.imgur.com/XTkBMIs.jpg
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06:00 <President_Trump> Marttin is furious the niggers arent voting for bernie
06:21 <President_Trump> Marttin is furious the niggers arent voting for bernie
07:00 <Tigger_> Bernie supporters think blacks are their natural allies to take on Wall St banksters
07:21 <Tigger_> Bernie supporters think blacks are their natural allies to take on Wall St banksters
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11:22 <Ethanol> "Bernie too part in a protest 50 years, therefore he is entitled to the votes of all black people"
11:23 <Ethanol> lol
11:27 <Ethanol> took*
12:40 <President_Trump> hopefully the fbi thing with hillary drags out until trump is president, so that he can approve the fbi's findings to charge her
14:30 <Tigger_> it would be hilarious if he puts her in prison
15:11 <President_Trump> i want to see a design of the wall
17:00 <G0BL1N> Putin is a friend of Trump
17:15 <President_Trump> http://patriotupdate.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/imageedit_4550_9636460129.jpg
18:22 <Tigger_> lol
20:44 <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/DIxcmON.jpg
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23:25 <President_Trump> lol
23:27 <President_Trump> where's Marttin
23:30 <President_Trump> hopefully he will do a spaz out
24:29 <President_Trump> it will be funny watching rubio at the next debate demanding everyone gets behind him because he won 1 state
27:12 <Tigger_> I want to hear the story of how he did that
28:46 <Tigger_> perhaps this explains it: https://twitter.com/jacobkornbluh/status/704466282196967429
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37:00 <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/9H3pem4.jpg
46:31 <Ethanol> I received my postal ballots for the upcoming council election today
46:57 <Tigger_> anything exciting?
47:08 <Ethanol> Here are some of the losers running for mayor...
47:08 <Ethanol> http://www.jimforlordmayor.com.au/
47:12 <Ethanol> http://www.karelboele.com/
48:18 <Ethanol> http://www.no-tolls.org/
49:03 <Tigger_> COUNCIL NEEDS WOMEN & DIVERSITY - NOT MORE PARTY PUPPETS
49:04 <Tigger_> Read how I will fix this under Vibrant and Engaged Communities below.
49:47 <Ethanol> The No Tolls guy is an anti-flouride campaigner. I might send him an email to ask about his policy on chemtrails.
49:59 Join: Marttinn ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
50:06 <Marttinn> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/01/north-koreans-dollar-loving-market-generation LOLLLLLLLLLLL
50:18 <Tigger_> lol
50:32 <Tigger_> I would vote for the chemtrails guy
50:38 <Tigger_> but not Jim the cuck
55:55 <Tigger_> Yes, I am a male and white. So are most other candidates - this is a massive problem because it means there will be an inherent white male bias in Council. The Political Parties could have helped mitigate this but instead have greatly contributed to this bias by flooding the field of candidates with white men.
55:57 <Tigger_> If elected Lord Mayor I will mitigate this gross bias by commissioning a Community Diversity Committee to inform Council as well as oversee a public education campaign on how to run for Council before the next election so this does not happen again.
56:07 <Tigger_> crisis averted
56:19 <Ethanol> LOL
57:33 <Ethanol> The Queensland state government is also holding a referendum to give themselves longer terms (4 years instead of 3).
58:39 <Tigger_> they don't mean fewer elections, they're not restricting their right to call an early election if it suits them
04:53 <Ethanol> I don't have any real interest in this election. I live in the outer suburbs, so the most I could ever expect from Council is sewage, over priced water and garbage collection. Occasionally they may even fix a pothole or two on Mains Road.
05:00 <mrwuf> true beauty is inside, if you marry some physically beautiful young woman, she ages
05:32 <Ethanol> The only people who benefit are property developers, inner-city bicycles riders and the councillors themselves.
05:41 <Ethanol> bicycle
06:00 <mrwuf> then the relationship falls apart
07:00 <Tigger_> what black men got for free: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/ec/7a/f0ec7aa07d948658b3760e046e721fe7.jpg  
07:00 <Tigger_> ironically black men would prefer her now
07:29 <Tigger_> it would be nice if someone campaigned against bicycles
08:00 <mrwuf> for 45 she still looks pretty attractive
08:00 <mrwuf> two kids later
08:00 <HILLARY_Rulz> ure' right wuf, but the other side of the argument is, u gotta be atleast somewhat attractive to have some sexual attractions towards each other at the start of the r/ship.
08:01 <Tigger_> the NSW police are starting to crack down on bike riders, a promising sign
08:11 <ajnin> Tigger_ your a fucking idiot
08:16 <Tigger_> what?
08:25 <ajnin> whats wrong with bikes ?
08:31 <Tigger_> everything
08:54 <ajnin> full blow nitwit
09:00 <HILLARY_Rulz> if i place our beloved queen elizabeth the 2nd infront of u, would u say u fall in love with her??
09:00 <mrwuf> yeah.. are you new to austnet HILLARY_Rulz 
09:00 <HILLARY_Rulz> hahahahah
09:05 <ajnin> what are you
09:06 <Tigger_> cyclists are an absolute menace to pedestrians
09:07 <ajnin> 6
09:09 <ajnin> "Everything"
09:38 <ajnin> Tigger_ I have never seen a pedestrian get collected by a bike
09:41 <ajnin> ever
10:00 <ajnin> and I am beting cars kill more anyways
10:00 <mrwuf> she's has more of a wise old grand mother vibe but in her hey day she was very beautiful I think
10:00 <HILLARY_Rulz> no not really, on & off austnet for like 20years
10:00 <mrwuf> ah cool
10:00 <HILLARY_Rulz> just came back this time around for like nearly a month only
10:02 <Tigger_> I do not care what you have seen or not seen
10:05 <ajnin> so lets ban cars
10:17 <ajnin> i got no time for this..
10:26 <ajnin> ill catch you all tomorrow
10:31 <Tigger_> I have never once in my life had any dangerous encounters with cars, but cyclists are always swooping by, being retards
10:39 <Marttinn>  MELTDOWN MELTDOWN
10:46 <Tigger_> yes, major meltdown
10:48 <ajnin> Tigger_ if you had 1/2 a brain you would be a 1/2 wit
10:50 <Tigger_> lol Marttin
11:00 <HILLARY_Rulz> last time was around 05 06? like 10yrs ago
11:00 <mrwuf> cool do you use other nicks
11:00 <mrwuf> maybe we've chatted before
11:00 <psidawg> just this bro
11:00 <psidawg> 1
11:00 <mrwuf> oh cool whats psi stand for
11:12 <ajnin> Tigger_ do you even own a car ?
11:16 <ajnin> if you do what type ?
11:38 <Tigger_> well the facts are that you can not walk along the Brisbane riverside without at least one cyclist chronic masturbator missing you by mere inches, several pedestrians have been killed by them
11:51 <ajnin> do you own a car ?
12:00 <psidawg> psionic energy & dog
12:00 <psidawg> lol
12:00 <mrwuf> oh nice
12:00 <mrwuf> haha
12:16 <Tigger_> I don't see how that is relevant, I'm talking about the dangers that cyclists present to pedestrians
12:24 <ajnin> do you own a car ?
12:26 <Ozone> killed?
12:27 <ajnin> easy question
12:31 <Tigger_> yes, killed
13:00 <mrwuf> well welcome back
13:00 <psidawg> yer ta...
13:29 <ajnin> Tigger_ ok.. do you have your drivers licence ?
13:47 <Tigger_> here's one article that covers the area I'm referring to:
13:48 <Tigger_> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/brisbane-bikeways-fast-becoming-danger-zones/story-e6freon6-1225846570732
13:57 <ajnin> i am not reading it
14:00 <ajnin> cause I dont give a fuck
14:00 <psidawg> was going thru a bunch of old IDE harddisks
14:00 <psidawg> and found my cold copy of mirc
14:00 <psidawg> this is mirc 6.21
14:00 <mrwuf> sweet
14:00 <psidawg> hahaha
14:00 <psidawg> wats thr latest now?
14:10 <Tigger_> A calibrated speed gun clocked half of all riders using RiverWalk going faster than the signed 20km/h limit.
14:10 <Tigger_> One in three were speeding past walkers at 30km/h or more on the Bicentennial Bikeway, at Coronation Drive, Milton.
14:10 <Tigger_> Speeds up to 50km/h have previously been reported.
14:10 <Tigger_> Regular users claim a cyclist-walker collision occurs every day across the city and QueensIand Injury Surveillance Unit director Ruth Barker believes walkers are at "significant" risk of serious injury.
14:11 <ajnin> I am keen to know if you drive
14:11 <Tigger_> The unit estimated 20 people were hospitalised each year from bike-pedestrian accidents across Queensland, but most go unreported.
14:19 <ajnin> FUCKkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
14:26 <ajnin> is that a whole 20 people ?
14:30 <Tigger_> the solution is for the police to arrest cyclists
14:54 <ajnin> yea... good idea there champ
15:00 <mrwuf> not much... we just discuss the american presidential election here, with lots of off topics
15:06 <Tigger_> to impose far more regulation on cyclists, with licensing, mandatory insurance
15:12 <ajnin> save them 20 people!
15:18 <Tigger_> get cyclists off the roads, off the footpaths
16:00 <mrwuf> oh you mean mirc... not sure I'm using chat
16:00 <mrwuf> *xchat
16:00 <Tigger_> hexchat
16:06 <Tigger_> what I don't understand is the attitude that cyclists have, exhibited right now, where they think they have a right to behave like this
16:08 <Marttinn> "I don't believe the bike and pedestrian lanes should be shared." I would have assumed there were different paths for pedestrians
16:17 <Tigger_> Marttin, unfortunately not
16:46 <Tigger_> the Greens faggots are always pushing for more cycling around Brisbane, and Labor and Liberals readily capitulate, as it's a bit of a non-issue for them
16:58 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W35dyPTh6o
17:00 <Lish> I'm sleepy
17:00 <Tigger_> Lish, work tomorrow
17:02 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Dethklok - I Ejaculate Fire [Official Music Video] (Sep 10, 2012) Length: 3:39 - Category: Music - 2,096,096 views - 16,815 likes (97%), 526 dislikes (3%)
17:53 <Tigger_> I originally thought the reason why the Greens pushed cycling so much was for carbon emissions reasons, but now I realise that the true reason is that cyclists generally look like they have late stage AIDS
18:00 <Lish> Second last day
18:00 <Tigger_> now, what is the thing you must remember to do on the plane?
18:15 <Marttinn> lol
19:00 <Lish> Take photos of the food
19:00 <Tigger_> yes
20:00 <Tigger_> we missed out last time
20:00 <Lish> I have them
20:00 <Lish> I just never shared them
20:00 <Lish> Cause I'm lazy
21:00 <Tigger_> that is very hurtful
21:00 <Lish> True
21:09 <mrwuf> ajnin, even black people can get car licenses of course Tigger_ has one
22:00 <mrwuf> did you see that flight landed because of a strange smell today
22:00 <mrwuf> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/tiger-airways-flight-makes-priority-landing-in-melbourne/7210000
22:00 <Lish> What airline
22:00 <Lish> Oh tiger
23:00 <Lish> Serves those ppl right
23:00 <Lish> For being poor
23:00 <mrwuf> imagine being a guy with really bad gas.... and this happens....
23:01 <Marttinn> black people = abos?
23:23 <mrwuf> sure I've seen abbos, african, indians all of them driving
24:00 <Tigger_> after seeing that show about Tiger I wanted to go on a ride on it for the experience
24:03 <Marttinn> its always funny to hear about africans in australia to me
24:23 <Tigger_> it is sad
24:30 <mrwuf> even arabs can pass driving tests
25:00 <Tigger_> West Australian Labor Senator Joe Bullock has announced he is quitting politics over his party's position on same-sex marriage.
25:00 <Tigger_> Senator Bullock is a right-wing faction powerbroker in the WA Labor Party and entered the Senate in 2014.
25:00 <Tigger_> He made the announcement in Senate on Wednesday night, saying he had long been against same-sex marriage and could not remain a Labor MP, given that the party will remove its members' ability to vote with their conscience on the issue in 2019.
25:00 <Tigger_> the purge is almost complete
25:31 <mrwuf> bikes are fine the problem is lack of infrastructure
26:00 <mrwuf> the meaning of marriage has evolved
26:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/labor-senator-joe-bullock-quits/7212324
26:00 <Tigger_> degenerated, is the word you're looking for
26:06 <mrwuf> usually when I pass a bike on the road they ride on the side white line, makes them easier to predict and safer to pass
26:38 <mrwuf> some countries have dedicated bike lanes and I think it helps overall traffic congestion in cities, so theres value in those sorts of investments
27:12 <mrwuf> the biggest hold up is the mandatory helmet laws
27:44 <mrwuf> more people would ride, maybe they would get injured more too? I've fallen from a bike a few times and I can't remember a helmet helping
28:00 <mrwuf> in the past a man and woman would 'get married' a cultural ceremony then start to have children, the marriage of genes... then birth control changed sex so that coupling was more brief and largely consequence free.. then couples had kids without getting married, or got married without having kids, and that relationship between marriage and children got kind of lost
28:00 <mrwuf> now the new meaning is two adults, regardless of sex...
28:00 <Tigger_> phases of perversion
28:00 <Lish> What are you ppl talking about
28:35 <mrwuf> it makes sense for children but for adults making helmets optional might be where we head in the future
28:45 <Marttinn> it cant be easy to fall from the bycicle as adult without doing something too complicated, which shouldnt happen on a cyclist road
29:00 <mrwuf> I'd like to see marriage be left to men and woman with kids, and some new word used to describe the other coupling, I think that would solve the issue
29:00 <Tigger_> it wouldn't for equality activists
29:01 <mrwuf> right but you land on your hands not head
29:21 <mrwuf> skateboarding is probably more dangerous for head injuries and its not mandated
29:24 <Tigger_> the solution is licensing for bicycles, and mandatory GPS tracking, so that any bicycle rider can be tracked and arrested for hit and run after they cause an injury
29:35 <Marttinn> lol
29:53 <mrwuf> usually when bikes pass they ring their bell first
30:00 <mrwuf> so marriage is left to the exchange of genetic material, while the legal definition develops a new word for couples 
30:00 <Lish> Why do they have to have kids
30:00 <Lish> It wouldn't solve the issue for me
30:03 <Tigger_> they almost never do that
30:07 <mrwuf> thats a good rule because they can appear rather fast from behind
30:36 <mrwuf> only when you walk on a road your supposed to go against traffic and when you ride your supposed to go with traffic so a collusion should never occur as you have plenty of time to see them coming
30:52 <Tigger_> also ban all bikes from paths, they must ride on the roads
31:00 <mrwuf> passing an obese person probably makes this whole situation harder, I would rather see the illegalisation of obesity
31:00 <Lish> Marriage means something different to everyone. Just let everyone get married. It doesn't impact you at all
31:00 <mrwuf> marriage imo is a genetic exchange that results in new human being, you are married to your partner because both your genetic material combine
31:18 <Tigger_> irrelevant
31:42 <mrwuf> mandatory counselling and nutritional education, I would make that a requirement of any centrelink payment
31:53 <mrwuf> same deal with drugs and alcohol
31:54 <Ethanol> And they must ride single file. Extra bike lanes will not solve congestion if cyclists hold up traffic for 2kms while they enjoy their morning chit chat.
31:56 <Tigger_> another issue entirely, not cycling related
32:00 <Lish> What if you get married and can't have kids 
32:00 <Lish> Would you need to get divorced
32:00 <mrwuf> yea the problem seems to be that the meaning of the word 'marriage' is changing, were we to create a new word might solve the dispute entirely
32:00 <Lish> Marriage has never meant to have kids 
32:00 <Lish> That's just some rubbish 
32:16 <mrwuf> well a person taking up twice to three times to sidewalk space is more dangerous than a skinny healthy person
32:45 <Tigger_> a body builder could use up the same space as an obese person, so irrelevant
32:48 <Marttinn>  clown show
33:00 <mrwuf> well a marriage to me is a combination or mixture of elements, your DNA with a partners DNA, kids are the product of the marriage 
33:00 <Lish> To you 
33:00 <Lish> So that's what it can still mean to you 
33:30 <Tigger_> I'd like to see bike lanes removed from the roads too, they pay no road taxes, so why should they get that privilege?
33:44 <mrwuf> I think mandatory education programs for people on the safety net sounds like a liberal policy that may surface in the not too distant future
34:00 <Lish> When you get married that's what you can think about
34:00 <Lish> Marriage doesn't mean that to me, and I would never think of my marriage like that
34:00 <Lish> Marriage doesn't actually mean very much to me at all
34:00 <mrwuf> when a guy impregnates a woman and a child is born, they are married genetically, even if not culturally or legally
34:00 <Lish> What if he rapes her
34:02 <mrwuf> educational programs for all addictive behaviours
34:27 <Ethanol> Hillary 1,001 delegates
34:27 <Ethanol> Bernie: 371
34:40 <Tigger_> actually mandatory speed limiters on bikes would be good, preventing them from going over 10km/h say
35:00 <mrwuf> well rape is a tactic of the ineffective male, its still a marriage if a child is born
35:00 <Lish> That's literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard
35:00 <mrwuf> well theres just three different views on marriage all clamouring for their own definition
35:00 <Lish> So should people get divorced I'd they can't have kids
35:06 <Tigger_> Bernie did do a bit better than I expected today, but not enough
35:09 <mrwuf> preventing those sick people with drug or food addictions from voting is probably wise too
35:17 <Ozone> cyclists are the worst
35:36 <Tigger_> this is how I will always remember today: http://i.imgur.com/AE04EOA.jpg
35:44 <Ethanol> heh
36:00 <mrwuf> theres the legal definition, the culturally definition produced by a ceremony with friends, and the genetic definition 
36:00 <Lish> Yes the meaning of marriage is personal. So just let people think of it how they like
36:00 <Lish> It doesn't impact you
36:00 <Lish> Does my marriage impact you? Nope. 
36:00 <mrwuf> thats all people are really arguing about, the definition of the word - so why not create a new word, a love union 
36:00 <Lish> Just use the same word, it already means so many things to everyone else 
36:01 <IvanTheBastard> perth is a death trap for cyclists, but half of them ride like fuckwits so its sorta deserved when they get run over imo
36:15 <Tigger_> that's right ivan
36:21 <IvanTheBastard> half ride well and observe the rules and i have no probs with them
37:00 <Lish> It's irrelevant to me what it means to you
37:00 <mrwuf> only two gay men can't produce children
37:00 <mrwuf> neither can two gay woman
37:00 <Lish> Neither can some hero couples
37:00 <mrwuf> so the families feel this is a perversion of something they hold dear
37:00 <Lish> Hetro
37:00 <Tigger_> the marriage of others can affect you, culture is a tapestry of many threads
37:00 <Lish> It doesn't affect me
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37:35 <IvanTheBastard> i actually figured its good that they run red lights, because it gives them a chance to get ahead of traffic (you ever tried to bypass one in the middle of an intersection its scary as fuck), and also theres a chance they might get run over
37:50 <Marttinn> whats the speed limit for electric bycicles in australia?
38:00 <mrwuf> you don't have or want kids
38:00 <Lish> I don't care about other peoples marriages 
38:00 <Lish> Yeah so your argument is moot mrwuf
38:25 <IvanTheBastard> same as any other traffic on the roads Marttinn, but they arent allowed on footpaths and Freeways + highways (unless specific bike lanes exist)
38:51 <IvanTheBastard> there may be a speed limit on cycle paths because they are usually shared with pedestrians / joggers but i dont know what the limit is
39:00 <mrwuf> so if you and your partner both died tomorrow, would you be married? would your genetics pass on to a new generation, the marriage of your two beings springing forth a new being? or would that be the end of both of you
39:00 <Ethanol> weak cultures tend to get overrun by more powerful, homogeneous cultures, as we are witnessing in Europe
39:10 <IvanTheBastard> but i would guess anything motorised wouldnt be allowed on them
39:58 <Marttinn> I mean, the legislation probably limit the speed the motor assist the cycler, in the USA is 33km/h in europe mostly 20km/h
40:00 <Lish> If we died tomorrow we would be dead
40:00 <Lish> The end
40:00 <mrwuf> culturally and legally your married, genetically you are both two unmarried individuals 
40:29 <Warren1984> The site reveals that the most common surname in the world is Wang, with 76,546,675 people, mainly in China, having the name.
40:58 <IvanTheBastard> Marttin, its an interesting point, there may well be a speed limit. In Aus usually only the dregs of society ride those motorised bikes
41:00 <mrwuf> so two words, one that represents the genetic perspective, kids, and one thats culturally and legally recognised is whats required, to make everyone happy
41:00 <Lish> Yes one is called a parent
41:00 <Lish> There already is a word for it
41:31 <IvanTheBastard> i.e 3rd generation dole recipients, low level drug dealers, homeless, convicts etc
42:00 <Tigger_> another way that marriage affects everyone is that bad families release horrible, dysfunctional children onto society, and they really do become everyone's problem
42:00 <mrwuf> so marriage should have two meanings perhaps, a parental definition and a non-parental 
42:00 <Lish> Yeah but that's not specifically tied to marriage Tigger, you can have bad families without being married. 
42:53 <Tigger_> just looked at the final Colorado results, Bernie got 60% of the vote to Hillary's 40%, but Bernie gets 33 delegates to Hillary's 34
43:00 <Lish> mrwuf no, and no one thinks that's. That's legit stupid
43:00 <mrwuf> if you want to convince me your right trying using logic rather than petty insults
44:00 <Lish> It's pointless, I won't change your mind. It literally sounds so stupid it's not even really worth talking about. 
45:00 <mrwuf> my mind is open to reason and I would love to hear your rational
45:06 <Marttinn> lol @ dregs, why?
45:17 <Marttinn> ah ok, you say it the next line
45:40 <Marttinn> so the most poor people in australia can afford what the richest in spain
46:00 <Lish> We're so far from thinking along the same lines 
46:00 <Lish> I wouldn't even want to waste 
46:00 <Lish> My time 
46:00 <mrwuf> my cat keeps biting my mouse fingers
46:00 <Tigger_> in my intentionalist social model, any couple that divorces is then expelled from the society, no matter who is at fault, and the children must go too
46:05 <Marttinn> poorest*
46:41 <Tigger_> in Australia the highest aspiration of the dregs of society is to own a jetski
47:00 <Tigger_> every drug raid turns up a jetski in the shed
47:00 <Lish> You just talk rubbish to get a rise out of people
47:00 <Lish> It's boring no
47:00 <Lish> Now
47:31 <Ozone> does anyone really care about jetskis, or is this just something you buy when you feel like you should buy something?
47:33 <Marttinn> I always wanted one as well
47:43 <Marttinn> lol
47:43 <Ozone> something that nobody actually needs
48:00 <mrwuf> a snake tried to sneak inside today
48:00 <mrwuf> 4foot long, I think it was a common tree snake, not sure... it slithered away when it was approached
48:00 <mrwuf> so at least it wasn't aggressive
48:02 <Tigger_> the jetski is the status symbol for the very bottom of society
48:08 <Marttinn> nobody need cigarretes either, or expensives clothes
48:12 <Ozone> so, the latter option then
48:27 <mrwuf> for some its a motorbike you can't really hurt yourself on, people that can't/dont fish seem to like them
49:00 <mrwuf> I think they hunt the green tree frogs that hang out on the window ledge
49:00 <mrwuf> usually theres about five tonight theres only one ):
49:36 <mrwuf> think of them as training wheels before buying a boat
50:00 <Tigger_> why didn't your cat kill the snake?
50:00 <mrwuf> http://www.gondwanareptileproductions.com/dpunctulatus.jpg
50:00 <Lish> When will you get married mrwuf?
50:00 <mrwuf> she's an inside cat, I think she might given the chance
50:01 <mrwuf> its mostly one or two people on board so yea most families don't seem to buy them
50:23 <mrwuf> picture a guy who cannot ride a motorbike, doesn't know how to fish, or operate a boat, single no kids, disposable cash
50:52 <Marttinn> an electric jetski would be the summit of live
51:00 <mrwuf> sure, maybe
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53:00 <mrwuf> that requires buying a house, working a full time job, its a nice kind of prison
53:00 <Tigger_> why wouldn't your wife be happy to live on welfare in a housing commision home?
53:10 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So3T5vEnhPs another great idea for australia
53:14 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Una tabla de surf eléctrica para surfear media hora sin parar (May 22, 2015) Length: 1:10 - Category: News & Politics - 2,159 views - 5 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
54:15 <Tigger_> they're probably already around, but I'm not the person to ask
56:00 <Ethanol> it does seem odd that a 33 year old former-prostitute would pass-up an opportunity to live on welfare in a housing commission home or hostel.
57:00 <Tigger_> at least as a first base
57:31 <mrwuf> surfer culture uses them for big waves, jet skis that is
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57:59 <mrwuf> when getting pounded by massive swell after a fall could likely result in death, especially around reefs
58:21 <myimmortal> hello my disciples
58:47 <Tigger_> hi myimmortal
59:00 <Tigger_> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-hits-49-percent-support-national-poll/story?id=37279402
59:00 <mrwuf> theres real social disadvantage for people relying on safety net
59:00 <mrwuf> usually people without jobs, faced with endless time, turn to drugs and alcohol
59:00 <mrwuf> that becomes an unhealthy cycle  
59:24 <Warren1984> President_Trump -> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/radio/former-prison-guard-reveals-all-about-life-at-australian-maximum-security-prison-long-bay/news-story/ac64b0ab8160d75df6fd40f9b8fc2c42
59:50 <mrwuf> drug dealers having jet skis is more likely because they are easier to steal and hide
00:00 <mrwuf> for both partners and children
00:00 <mrwuf> so I think getting married or having children requires full-time work, or at least requires a substantial amount of money
00:00 <al> hi
00:03 <Warren1984> “There’s more action in prison than an after-party at the Mardi Gras.”
00:29 <Tigger_> WHAT really goes on at Australian maximum security prison, Long Bay? According to a former guard, lots and lots of sex.
00:30 <Tigger_> William*, a prison guard who worked at the Sydney prison for 11 years, said on Wednesday that if he had a dollar for every time he’d caught prisoners having consensual sex in their cells, he could’ve retired after five years.
00:33 <mrwuf> they also have all kinds of electrical tools and things, anything that drug addicts can easily steal that has some resell value, ends up at drug dealers homes
00:44 <Tigger_> plivent was having a huge amount of gay sex in prison
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00:54 <Tigger_> hi Lish
01:00 <Lish> Hi
01:00 <al> fuken
01:00 <al> whats up 
01:00 <al> to busy fucking u dog cunt
01:00 <Tigger_> unemployment isn't the risk factor for drug use, it's low paid employment
01:00 <mrwuf> i'm not rich, nor do I have full time employment, so the reasonable first step is finding a job
01:00 <al> i dont use drugs
01:00 <al> i crack shits
01:00 <al> when needed
01:23 <mrwuf> so your suggesting that homosexual men are more likely to commit crime?
01:41 <Tigger_> mrwuf, yes
01:43 <Lish> Holiday tomorrow!
01:49 <mrwuf> definitely seems that drugs are a big part of that culture
01:52 <Tigger_> Lish, got your bags packed?
02:00 <al> to fucken play mind games
02:00 <mrwuf> well I'd argue that people working in high status professions probably equally engage in drug use
02:00 <Tigger_> they don't
02:00 <mrwuf> lawyers doing cocaine or meth, doctors with a narcotic addiction
02:00 <al> <mrwuf> well I'd argue that people working in high status [22:02] <@Tigger_> they don't
02:00 <Tigger_> that's rare
02:00 <mrwuf> the problems are human, job status only really reflects the _type_ of drugs 
02:00 <al> wuf> lawyers doing cocaine or meth, doctors with a narcotic addiction
02:00 <al> [22:02] <al> <mrwuf> welwuf> lawyers doing cocaine or meth, doctors with a narcotic addiction
02:00 <al> [22:02] <al> <mrwuf> wel
02:12 <Lish> Yuh my suitcase weighs 19kg lol
02:23 <Tigger_> Lish, so what do you have to remember to do on the plane?
02:31 <myimmortal> sydney is a gay std town
02:35 <Lish> Photos!
02:39 <Tigger_> yes!
02:42 <Lish> I won't forget
02:47 <Lish> I never do
03:00 <mrwuf> some professions are more vulnerable than others
03:00 <Tigger_> low skill, low pay = your drug cohort
03:00 <mrwuf> most people consume alcohol
03:01 <Warren1984> lol myimmortal
03:01 <mrwuf> I'd probably bet money that when prisoners are using drugs in their cells, and a PO comes around they pretend to have gay sex so they aren't bothered
04:00 <mrwuf> theres no social economic status that frees one from the draws of intoxication
04:00 <Tigger_> though they sometimes turn into low skill, high pay, such as in mining, and the drug consumption increases
04:00 <Tigger_> yes there is
04:00 <mrwuf> people with higher paying jobs are able to better manage their addictions, thats probably correct
04:00 <mrwuf> humans enjoy pleasurable experiences
04:00 <Tigger_> the sociologist, Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" addresses this, the poor are drug users, the rich are not
04:12 <Warren1984> Tigger_
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05:00 <mrwuf> the poor probably have human character flaws, like poor impulse control, that makes them less able to manage their drug addiction, compared to someone with even a little self control
05:09 <Lish> Twistiessssss
05:26 <Lish> Packed all my caps
05:34 <Tigger_> if I was in prison I'd be committing infractions constantly to be sent to solitary
06:00 <mrwuf> going to university requires self control, its not pleasurable, its painful even, but if you can force yourself to do this.. it pays off
06:00 <mrwuf> theres a stanford study that linked the ability to delay reward with a better life outcome 
06:00 <Tigger_> low time preference
09:00 <mrwuf> to give your offspring the opportunities to succeed requires a lot of money just to ensure their peer group is not a destructive influence
09:55 <Lish> lol
10:00 <mrwuf> if your neighbours are all unemployed drug and alcohol abusers and they send their children to the same school as you, the environmental influence means they face greater dangers than say private schooling in a nice neighbourhood, so the responsible adult thing is to ensure you minimise risk.. in this case by working full time, all the time
10:00 <Tigger_> that's a good example of how the low class drive up prices for everyone else
10:04 <Lish> You say funny things
10:16 <Tigger_> in response to this: <Warren1984> President_Trump -> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/radio/former-prison-guard-reveals-all-about-life-at-australian-maximum-security-prison-long-bay/news-story/ac64b0ab8160d75df6fd40f9b8fc2c42
11:00 <mrwuf> its a hard pill to swallow, thankfully we get to choose our career paths so if your wise you'll find a job you enjoy rather than resent, so it becomes a nice prison
11:22 <Lish> Oh ok
12:00 <mrwuf> weak willed humans are always tragic characters
12:00 <mrwuf> that whole hedonism lifestyle is really one of intense pain
13:43 <Lish> Real housewives of melbourne is good
14:00 <circle> you know mein kampf is actually a good book
14:00 <circle> all those jew lies about how boring it is etc are such bullshit
14:00 <circle> its a legit good book
14:00 <circle> hitler is a genius
14:00 <circle> like full blown genius
15:00 <mrwuf> he was definitely a charismatic person, who exploited the fear of immigrants for his own political ambitions... kind of reminds me of a republican candidate eh
16:00 <Tigger_> it is a good book, Hitler is a very engaging writer
16:00 <mrwuf> ruined the mini moustache for generations and sparked the whole zionism moment, those are his two legacies, aside from setting the german people back a couple of generations
16:00 <doctor> I love this for some reason https://www.facebook.com/554937581222532/videos/954154881300798/
17:00 <mrwuf> lmao
18:00 <Tigger_> David Duke recently endorsed Trump, an endorsement that doesn't help Trump at all, but gives Duke a bit more attention and website visits and maybe some book sales
19:00 <Tigger_> David Duke is a classic example of someone who has obsessed about jews for so long that he's now acting like one
19:00 <mrwuf> I think extremists in every shape and form require a consolidated shun from the collective human population, if we have learnt anything from hitler is that ignoring extremism is unwise
19:00 <Tigger_> Trump is a moderate though
21:00 <mrwuf> trump is a chameleon that presents himself dependant on success, as he defines it by popularity, he will say anything to become elected, those sorts of political leaders leave the worst legacies 
21:00 <Tigger_> Trump will leave wonderful legacies, like a huge wall, and Making America Great Again
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22:00 <mrwuf> better a principled man I don't agree with than a fox whistling a nice tune
23:00 <mrwuf> america is still great, I think he's a revisionist wearing rose coloured glasses 
23:00 <mrwuf> hilted probably said the same thing, make germany great again!
24:00 <Tigger_> it is a false equivalence anyway, Trump and Hitler are nothing alike
24:00 <mrwuf> hillary is the natural lesser evil
24:00 <Tigger_> for example Trump is a businessman, while Hitler was an artist
25:00 <mrwuf> if you view this entire election from her strategic position, she's doing very well, deflecting attention from her past, sabotaging republican nominees
26:00 <Tigger_> what sabotaging of Republican nominees has she done?
26:00 <mrwuf> the biggest challenge a democratic government faces where voters are not mandated to vote, is poor turnout, trump has essentially engaged and polarised america so turnout will be splendid
26:00 <Tigger_> splendid for Trump
26:00 <mrwuf> well trump and hillary are close friends
26:00 <Tigger_> oh that conspiracy again
27:00 <mrwuf> she attended his wedding that at least suggests a friendly connection
27:00 <Tigger_> Trump knows many, many thousands of people of all types, he's always been a very important man that people seek out to meet
27:00 <mrwuf> before he announced theres reports he spoke to hillary too
27:00 <doctor> he even openly admitted to liking the Clintons in a previous interview
28:00 <Tigger_> Trump likes everyone
29:00 <mrwuf> its a fun show either way
29:00 <Tigger_> Hillary has mainly split the Democrats
29:00 <mrwuf> maybe more celebrities will switch to political leadership, I bet ben affleck already has ambitions
29:00 <mrwuf> kayne 4 prez
29:00 <Warren1984> got a message back from Cathy saying "learn more skill will good for you"
29:00 <Tigger_> lol
29:00 <Tigger_> classic line
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30:00 <Warren1984> what do you mean Tigger_?
30:00 <mrwuf> excellent 
30:00 <Tigger_> so asian
30:00 <doctor> I dont think he's anything like Hitler other than being a populist, but if he can change his beliefs and opinions based on the reaction he gets from the voter base, I don't think he has much grounding to stand on
30:00 <Tigger_> exulting education in broken english
30:00 <doctor> If he can't deliver if President, which is likely, things for him can go sour very quickly
30:00 <mrwuf> better than his chinese no?
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31:00 <mrwuf> yea congress will not pass any legalisation 
31:00 <Warren1984> I told her clip clop is going to inspect
31:00 <mrwuf> legislation*
31:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf how does the world work?
32:00 <mrwuf> out of self interest mostly
32:00 <mrwuf> thats the capitalist system we live in, its very harmful for its so damn competitive, but its saving grace is that it breeds innovation really fast
32:00 <doctor> a self enclosing room filled with bubbles rubbing up against bubbles
33:00 <mrwuf> its a means to an end probably, not our finally species form
33:00 <mrwuf> taken to its extreme we destroy the planet
33:00 <mrwuf> either from wars or pollution
34:00 <doctor> I think we can render our habitat uninhabitable but I dont think we can destroy the planet
34:00 <mrwuf> so its a stage, after industrialisation, into the information age, things probably become less aggressive soon, but more aggressive in the meantime
34:00 <doctor> possibly yeah
35:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf lol
37:00 <Tigger_> things are going to become a lot more aggressive, with Africa's population projected to hit 4 billion over the 21st century
38:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/the-psychology-of-a-road-rager-experts-reveals-what-makes-us-snap/news-story/2107a591ceaa4c7db707e081b288392d <- thats why you keep a fishing knife in the car
40:00 <mrwuf> along with a fishing bag and fishing tackler
40:00 <mrwuf> or a baseball bat along with a glove and a ball
41:00 <mrwuf> but really I think we all train out bodies so that people who wise to dominate us, when they look at us, instantly realise the folly
41:00 <Tigger_> no baseball is played in Australia, yet sales of baseball bats are pretty high
41:00 <mrwuf> wise/wish
41:00 <mrwuf> I think our best weapon is our mind in any fight
42:00 <mrwuf> rather than weapons, which are really only force multipliers 
43:00 <mrwuf> if someone is driving aggressive, I don't engage them by breaking or slowing down, I get out of the way
43:00 <mrwuf> if someone tries to pick a fight with me, I'll say something like 'leave me alone yeah?' and walk away
44:00 <mrwuf> obviously they seek a fight, I'm not going to reward them with it, they have to try harder and that also gives me a self defence out for any violence
45:00 <mrwuf> to feel safer in public simply need to improve your strength
46:00 <mrwuf> its natural to feel anxious or nervous when your not strong, any time the crowd could turn on you, however unlikely the possibility exists
46:00 <Tigger_> why not bash them?
46:00 <mrwuf> once you have created a strong body to navigate the physical word your threat detection system kind of turns down its volume
47:00 <mrwuf> sure things can go bad, but I can handle them, invokes a kind of calm and friendly attitude
47:00 <mrwuf> because assault is against the law and would result jail
48:00 <mrwuf> people that are really upset and angry, sometimes, have very good reasons, hurting someone thats injured is not something thats honourable 
48:00 <mrwuf> there are times to be violent, but to pick the right place, with the right person, for the right reason, in the right way, very tricky
49:00 <Tigger_> they must face the righteous justice of your fists
49:00 <mrwuf> well if you can make your enemy your friend, you just defeated them no?
50:00 <Tigger_> people only understand violence
50:00 <Tigger_> a good hard bashing is an education
50:00 <mrwuf> being violent will make you feared for sure, but not respected
50:00 <mrwuf> the difference between being feared and respected is usually discovered when you fall over
51:00 <mrwuf> I have to go feed a possum (:
51:00 <Tigger_> they respect violence
58:00 <President_Trump> <mrwuf> she attended his wedding that at least suggests a friendly connection
58:00 <President_Trump> no he donated to her and he just called her up and said come to my wedding
59:00 <SoupNazi> President_Drumpf
02:40 <Tigger_> Kathy Jackson is a devout unionist after all, with a corpse turning up in her home: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/body-found-at-south-coast-home-of-kathy-jackson/news-story/c4f2c0203bd972b8f2dea2832a97062c
03:00 <President_Trump> https://vid.me/cHlW
03:00 <Tigger_> as I understand the conspiracy theory, Trump is like Hitler, but really plans to give the presidency to Hillary
03:00 <President_Trump> at the last minute trump is going to bash melania
03:00 <President_Trump> so hillary can win
05:00 <Tigger_> a cunning plan
06:00 <mrwuf> do you think the ruling elite of america would allow someone like trump to be president
07:00 <mrwuf> they work by minimising risk, trump is a wildcard
07:00 <President_Trump> https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12803062_222474408101519_1460061110722284667_n.jpg?oh=c2abc15c597a859c45a17c89a765be97&oe=574D5ECF
07:00 <Tigger_> they just lost their power
07:00 <mrwuf> hillary is the tried, tested and proven leader so many times over
07:00 <mrwuf> I doubt trump has the intelligence community behind him like hillary does
07:00 <President_Trump> it will be interesting to hear what conspiracy theory they come up with when trump wins
07:00 <mrwuf> well lets put your money where you mouth is
08:00 <mrwuf> make a bet
08:00 <mrwuf> the odds are in your favour
08:00 <President_Trump> i bet on other things
08:00 <President_Trump> where i dont have to wait 7 months
09:00 <mrwuf> even a loss is a win for trumps brand
09:00 <mrwuf> he's firmly established himself as a celebrity now, from b-list to a-list
10:00 <mrwuf> how much trump do you think the population can stand, another 7 months
10:00 <President_Trump> another 8 years 7 months
10:00 <mrwuf> no I think the population will mess against him
10:00 <mrwuf> this is still the honeymoon period
11:00 <President_Trump> yes after a while they will get sick of the country always WINNING! and being so GREEDY!
11:00 <mrwuf> theres really two approaches to handling potentially dangerous news
11:00 <Tigger_> the people of America will demand that Trump be president for life
11:00 <mrwuf> you ignore it completely, like what happened to ron paul, or you saturation the media with him so that it grows tired
12:00 <mrwuf> 7months of trump, watch how it unfolds
12:00 <Tigger_> the same sort of conspiratorial moaning that used to come from Ron Paul supporters is now being said by Bernie supporters
12:00 <President_Trump> its already been 7 months of trump, seems to be going well so far
12:00 <mrwuf> atm news casters and interviews are being very respectiful
13:00 <mrwuf> wait until they begin the assault and rile him up, he cannot control his temper
13:00 <mrwuf> its just a time game
13:00 <Tigger_> the people want a furious president
13:00 <President_Trump> wait until he starts on hillary, she has no hope
13:00 <mrwuf> I can see many future twitter apologises in his future
14:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf sounds like the typical crying republican commentator on fox news
14:00 <President_Trump> making all these predictions of his downfall
14:00 <mrwuf> they are keeping all the best bits for later, how he raped his wife, his marfia connections, his illegal worker contracts, its going to be a snowstorm
15:00 <mrwuf> he's going to implode and its going to be spectacular 
15:00 <President_Trump> you were allowed to rape your wife in new york, he didnt break the law
15:00 <IvanTheBasterd> people are so critical of trump, but you know what? He's passionate, even if he lies all the time he's passionate about the lies he tells
15:00 <Tigger_> there's no such thing as marital rape, consent was given with "I do"
15:00 <IvanTheBasterd> he stands for some things, like getting the fukin illegals out of his country
15:00 <IvanTheBasterd> wtf does hillary stand for
15:00 <IvanTheBasterd> nobody even knows
16:00 <Tigger_> Hillary stands for transgender acceptance
16:00 <Tigger_> very important issue
16:00 <mrwuf> his appeal is limited to a very particular demographic that hillary doesn't appeal to, so its an effective strategy to have him run
16:00 <President_Trump> a very particular demographic, 45% of republican voters with 5 still in the race
16:00 <mrwuf> the amerians that take pictues with their bibles and guns, similar to muslims taking pictures with guns and qurans, the extremist element adores him
17:00 <Tigger_> Trump is the great moderate
17:00 <President_Trump> it is taking a long time for people to catch on, they still dont understand its a movement
17:00 <Tigger_> indeed
18:00 <mrwuf> have you seen the kinds of people in his crowds
18:00 <President_Trump> hillary getting up on stage chirping out 'make america great again?? america is already great!!' everyone just roll their eyes
19:00 <mrwuf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIMsKvbHN3g
19:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Jake Byrd at Donald Trump Rally (Sep 16, 2015) Length: 7:09 - Category: Comedy - 446,501 views - likes (85.3%), 594 dislikes (14.7%)
19:00 <mrwuf> your kindred spirits?
21:00 <President_Trump> hillary appeals to over 60 year old women only
22:00 <President_Trump> is that loser in the hat meant to be funny mrwuf?
22:00 <Tigger_> 60+ year old black women was her core demographic in South Carolina
22:00 <mrwuf> lmao
25:00 <President_Trump> hillary tried to attack trump and he went back at them and then they shutup
26:00 <Tigger_> I saw the data broken out somewhere, it was something like 98% of elderly black women went for Hillary
26:00 <President_Trump> all of oprahs fans
26:00 <Tigger_> heh
27:00 <President_Trump> she is irrelevant with people under 40
27:00 <President_Trump> her last desperate act will be making bernie vp to try and get votes
27:00 <Tigger_> while Trump is getting the youth vote
28:00 <Tigger_> I just can't see that happening
28:00 <President_Trump> she needs bernies supporters
28:00 <President_Trump> they hate her
28:00 <President_Trump> it will be the last desperate act
28:00 <Tigger_> she does, but how's she supposed to run things for Wall St with Bernie always around?
29:00 <President_Trump> because he wants to be vp
30:00 <President_Trump> she is already parroting on about 'no corporation too big to fail, no executive to big to jail'
30:00 <Tigger_> Bernie's supporters would see that as a sell out
31:00 <President_Trump> that wont matter
31:00 <President_Trump> he will rah them up with how bad trump will be
31:00 <Tigger_> I guess it's possible
32:00 <President_Trump> its a possibility, not a certainty
32:00 <President_Trump> as i said it would be a last desperate act she would do only if she knows shes going to lose
33:00 <Tigger_> then I'll feel extra sorry for Bernie supporters, so many of them have given all their money to him
34:00 <President_Trump> the black democrat turn out will be pathetic
34:00 <President_Trump> a lot of the under 30's will vote trump if they vote
35:00 <mrwuf> vote for Donal Drumpf
36:00 <mrwuf> thats his real name
36:00 <Tigger_> it'll be interesting to see if Obama does much campaigning for Hillary, or if he'll just play golf
36:00 <mrwuf> Donald Drumpf
37:00 <mrwuf> can't wait until they reveal his military history, how he was constricted twice and each time made a fake medical excuse
37:00 <mrwuf> watching him implode on television is going to be spectacular, then listening to you guys defend him or have a change of heart, the icing on the cake hehe
37:00 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHLcrfhwPtc
37:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: We Want The Truth (Dec 14, 2015) Length: 5:05 - Category: News & Politics - 458,836 views - 12,008 likes (94.5%), 697 dislikes (5.5%)
39:00 <Tigger_> nobody has supported the veterans more than Trump
39:14 <circle> wtf
39:22 <circle> i never minded her tbh
39:28 <circle> because she tried to destroy some commie union
40:00 <President_Trump> trump raised $6 million in one night for veterans
40:17 <circle> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-raped-teenage-girl-hours-after-jail-release/news-story/d801224c8cfde5dce33984e8ba8d4293
40:20 <circle> our "justice" system
42:22 <President_Trump> the same day he was released on automatic parole after serving an 18-month prison sentence for two counts of having sex with a 13-year-old.
42:23 <President_Trump> 18 months isnt much
42:43 <circle> he should have got death minimum
42:49 <Tigger_> was he released early for having memorised the Noble Qur'an?
42:52 <circle> wait
42:53 <circle> just having sex
42:55 <circle> that doesn't matter
43:10 <circle> if he got 18 months for fucking a willing 13 year old thats crazy
43:13 <circle> should get 0
43:14 <circle> but if it was rape
43:15 <circle> death
43:28 <President_Trump> he looks more like he'd prefer to have sex with a man
43:52 <mrwuf> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a67XXMm_460s.jpg
44:17 <Tigger_> he does have a bit of a paedo face
46:00 <mrwuf> yea I kind of remember then turning down that donation because he wanted to make it political by handing it out at one of his rallies
46:00 <mrwuf> thats more or less using charity in an attempt to buy respect, failed
46:24 <circle> >he is ­accused of, within hours of being let out, befriending two girls aged 15 and 16 on a train and then luring them to Best Road Reserve at Seven Hills, where he allegedly raped the older teenager.
46:27 <circle> so they deserved it
46:47 <circle> they followed him there
46:49 <circle> they are sluts
46:50 <circle> whores
46:52 <circle> cunts
47:29 <Tigger_> or they just wanted some lollies
48:12 <circle> lol
48:16 <circle> fuck them
48:27 <Tigger_> Former Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul tweeted on Tuesday that he would "un-suspend" his campaign if the New Hampshire Union Leader endorses him and declares a "do over."
49:00 <Tigger_> that was just one or two particular veterans groups, the others were very happy with the results
49:00 <President_Trump> yes much better to give nothing than 6 million
49:00 <President_Trump> out of the candidates, who would be your choice mrwuf?
49:00 <President_Trump> did we already do this and you came up with rand paul?
49:51 <President_Trump> why a do over?
50:00 <mrwuf> I'm not really interested in any of the candidates
50:00 <President_Trump> one of them will be president, so who would your choice be
50:00 <mrwuf> it doesn't matter to me
50:00 <President_Trump> who would your choice be?
50:00 <mrwuf> I'm all the way over here in australia mate
50:00 <President_Trump> so?
50:00 <President_Trump> who do you think would make the best president?
50:00 <Tigger_> leader of the free world
50:55 <Tigger_> http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271279-rand-paul-pledges-to-un-suspend-campaign-if-nh-paper
51:00 <mrwuf> so I'm not so entranced by the american political sideshow
51:00 <President_Trump> weak answer
52:00 <mrwuf> its boring
52:00 <President_Trump> your answer is
52:00 <President_Trump> you must have a favourite
52:00 <mrwuf> nope
52:00 <President_Trump> dont be shy mrwuf
52:15 <circle> http://i.imgur.com/yotHkP4.png
52:17 <circle> im getting slower
52:19 <circle> used to be 160wpm
53:00 <Tigger_> Martin O'Malley
53:00 <President_Trump> who do you think would make the best president?
53:00 <mrwuf> brad pitt
53:22 <Tigger_> where's the test?
53:42 <circle> 10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english
54:00 <President_Trump> i think mrwuf is probably a bernie supporter
54:00 <mrwuf> nope
54:00 <mrwuf> vote 4 brad
54:00 <mrwuf> who r u going 2 vote for
55:00 <mrwuf> oh right your australian
55:00 <mrwuf> so it doesn't matter
55:32 <Tigger_> my result: http://10fastfingers.com/speedtests/generate_screenshot_result/1_75_383_0_0_72_1_90.36_18599_192844
56:00 <President_Trump> mrwuf the clive palmer supporter
56:00 <mrwuf> the fact you guys are so into american kind of negates trumps opinion that america isn't great, doesn't it
56:22 <circle> you can generate a screenshot from the site? hm interesting
56:24 <circle> thats ok i suppose
56:30 <circle> but even when i two-fingered typed i was at about 120wpm
56:51 <Tigger_> it has a screenshot link right next to the results box
57:00 <Tigger_> it's just that Australian politics is so boring now
57:00 <President_Trump> no its sad to see a white super power failing
57:00 <Tigger_> while the US has the greatest show on Earth
57:00 <mrwuf> you got tony abbot as scar from the linking in the backbencher badlands
57:00 <mrwuf> leaking cabinet in confidence documents
57:00 <President_Trump> in australia the biggest issue is a 0-5% raise in the gst
57:28 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cci2UQBWIAAJnuw.jpg:large
58:00 <mrwuf> well our financial system is so close to recession its kind of interesting
58:00 <President_Trump> how does that make australian politics interesting?
58:00 <mrwuf> all those house prices rising so dramatically 
58:05 <Tigger_> lol, though he needs to get them to wear Make America Great Again caps
58:06 <circle> i will now try and get in top 20 worldwide
58:12 <circle> that only requires above 141wpm
58:13 <circle> which is easily doable
59:00 <mrwuf> well it might signal a change for us
59:00 <mrwuf> a real impact on our ordinary lives
59:00 <President_Trump> whats that got to do with labor v liberal?
59:00 <mrwuf> well they are both the same fish, all that separates them is their donors
59:49 <President_Trump> irc typing speed http://10fastfingers.com/speedtests/generate_screenshot_result/1_80_405_0_0_74_1_92.47_14512_192823
59:52 <President_Trump> i will now go for max
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