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00:00 <IvanTheBastard> very little is coming out in the british media about it
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> i mean its made headlines
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> but lets face it
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> if it was some white guy doing that to arab girls
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> or a bunch of them
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> there would have been worldwide indignation
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> protests, flag and effigy burnings
01:00 <IvanTheBastard> lefties and feminists up in arms
01:00 <IvanTheBastard> the entire lack of any sort of mainstream response to me makes me totally disappointed in the western world
02:00 <Tigger_> it exposes the left for what they are
02:00 <Tigger_> such as feminism has nothing to do with women's rights, it's about herding women onto feminist plantations
02:00 <SurlyDuff> this is why I joke about rape online, much to the disgust of people like lish. 
03:00 <SurlyDuff> none of them give a shit about _real_ rape
03:00 <Baz> hey GreekSnake
03:00 <Tigger_> "rape is never funny (just to be politely ignored if it doesn't fit the narrative)
03:00 <Tigger_> hi GreekSnake 
03:00 <IvanTheBastard> hey GreekSnake
04:00 <GreekSnake> hey sluts
05:00 <Tigger_> In a statement South Yorkshire Police said: "Our staff are now better informed than ever and we are absolutely committed to achieving justice, stopping the harm and preventing future offending.
05:00 <Tigger_> "All frontline officers and specialist staff have now been trained in relation to child sexual exploitation and spotting the signs.
06:00 <Tigger_> the PR hacks are the only ones who actually do a full day's work in the British police force now
07:00 <GreekSnake> spotting the signs = ignoring Pakistani Muslim men giving prepubescent white children rides in their cabs
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> snake, you may have missed abit of the rant earlire
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-29957511
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> Rotherham child sex abuse: Police 'ripped up files'
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> i was lamenting the decline and fall of the Western empire
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> He took me to a lay-by; kept calling me a liar, saying he'd read my files and that I was a liar and no-one was going to believe me, it was more trouble than it was worth and he ripped my paperwork up.
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> "He dropped me back at an Indian restaurant... back with my abuser."
08:00 <Tigger_> The actress best known for playing the unseen role of Howard Wolowitz's mother on The Big Bang Theory has died.
08:00 <Tigger_> Carol Ann Susi died in Los Angeles on Tuesday from cancer at the age of 62.
08:00 <Tigger_> http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30017686
09:00 <Tigger_> the cop was a relative of the rapist by the sounds of it
10:00 <IvanTheBastard> oh yeah true, i didnt think of it that way
10:00 <IvanTheBastard> they were probably all in on it too
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> people from political office went to court to give character references for some of the suspect paedophiles
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> sorry dont have the source of that one
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> but can you imagine that?
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> imagine if it was whitey doing that!
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> oh the outcry from the bleeding hearts
11:00 <Tigger_> there would've been a vast amount of organised crime going on for which the child predation was just a subset, the cops were all in on it
12:00 <GreekSnake> Ivan, parents who went to rescue their children from the houses of the Pakistani rape gangs were themselves arrested by police
13:00 <IvanTheBastard> where are the human rights lawyers jumping up to take these cases
13:00 <GreekSnake> but we shouldn't single out the Pakistanis, there were also a few Iraqi Kurds and Somalis
13:00 <IvanTheBastard> greek - i read about that too. fucking pathetic
14:00 <Tigger_> on what grounds did the police arrest them?
14:00 <GreekSnake> the one thing the child rapists all had in common was their Muslim faith
14:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, the Pakis would call the police and claim they were being harassed by white racists
14:00 <Tigger_> I see
15:00 <GreekSnake> so the police would come and arrest these white racists, and ignore the fact that white children were being raped inside the houses
16:00 <GreekSnake> in Greece, the police station would've been burnt to the ground
16:00 <GreekSnake> and the pakis involved lynched
16:00 <Tigger_> in circumstances like these, the officials who covered up the crimes should merit even harsher punishments than the actual rapists, up to the death penalty
16:00 <GreekSnake> yes
17:00 <GreekSnake> I actually thought Howard's voice was done by Bernadette
17:00 <GreekSnake> *mother's
18:00 <GreekSnake> <IvanTheBastard> where are the human rights lawyers jumping up to take these cases
18:00 <Tigger_> where has Sheldon's mother been lately?
18:00 <GreekSnake> < indigenous white Britons don't have human rights, that's something reserved for Muslims
19:00 <GreekSnake> hasn't she been having it off with that hillbilly?
19:00 <Tigger_> yes, but we haven't seen her in awhile
19:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30019976
19:00 <GreekSnake> Microsoft has patched a critical bug in its software that had existed for 19 years.
20:00 <Tigger_> I'm amazed that there is code 19 years old still in Windows
20:00 <erlich> yeah, vista was a rewrite?
21:00 <Tigger_> not a full rewrite
21:00 <Tigger_> I know that Linux has code going back to 1974 at least, long before Linux actually existed
23:00 <GreekSnake> I assume all such software is updated incrementally, so I'm not that surprised
25:00 <Tigger_> The process which led to the creation of humankind on earth was a fluke - and it is highly unlikely it has been repeated anywhere else in the galaxy.
25:00 <Tigger_> That is the view of English physicist Professor Brian Cox, who made the  assertion in an episode of BBC's Human Universe. 
25:00 <Tigger_> Professor Cox thwarted suggestions alien life was a possibility and said he believed humans were the only form of civilisation in our galaxy, despite the astronomical number of other planets in it. 
25:00 <Tigger_> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/we-are-alone-in-the-galaxy-brian-cox-20141027-11crqq.html
25:00 <Tigger_> so things can't can only get better
26:00 <GreekSnake> http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78782000/jpg/_78782325_976ethnicitynodistance.jpg
26:00 <GreekSnake> ethnic map of Londonistan
26:00 <GreekSnake> http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78781000/jpg/_78781284_304ethnicity.jpg
26:00 <Tigger_> what does red represent?
26:00 <GreekSnake> Indians
26:00 <Tigger_> ah
26:00 <GreekSnake> only the outer fringes have any grey 
27:00 <Tigger_> lol "Gypsy", what happened to "Roma"?
28:00 <GreekSnake> lol
28:00 <GreekSnake> I know, so racist
28:00 <LeroyBrown> speaking of linux
28:00 <LeroyBrown> do i wanna install it
28:00 <IvanTheBastard> pfft proffer cocks
28:00 <Tigger_> I notice my "things can only get better" reference was not noticed by anyone
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> professor cocks*
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> only person i believe when it comes to aliens is that guy from history channel with the big hair
29:00 <Tigger_> the kook?
30:00 <IvanTheBastard> holy shit greek
30:00 <IvanTheBastard> london is complete filth 
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> Tigger_ yea, the kook
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> common man that guy is pretty believable
32:00 <Tigger_> what is his actual name?  I only know him from meme jpegs
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> i actually dont know
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> he's just the 'ancient aliens' guy to me
32:00 <Tigger_> yes
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> and that's all he needs to be really because he helps reinforce my views that we are ruled by reptilian shapeshifting crossdimensional crossdressing transvestite ancient aliens
34:00 <GreekSnake> heh
35:00 <GreekSnake> I believe aliens probably exist, but not like that
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> well that's just no fun then
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> i think humans are capable of some pretty amazing, yet also pretty terrible things
35:00 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, how do you believe that aliens exist?
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> so that's why i dont think we need to add aliends to the mix 
36:00 <GreekSnake> Are you familiar with the Drake equation?
36:00 <Tigger_> yes, I've argued against that many times in here
38:00 <GreekSnake> only because you think the Fermi paradox is the be all and end all
38:00 <Tigger_> there is a book, Rare Earth, that expands the number of variables in the Drake Equation to more fully encompass the various factors that would lead to civilisation, and they calculate that our galaxy has about a one in one thousand probability of producing a single civilisation at our level
39:00 <IvanTheBastard> i think its entirely possible for there to be life out there, but being within range of us is an entirely different matter
39:00 <Tigger_> and we're it
40:00 <Tigger_> so you'd need to examine 1000 Milky Way type galaxies before you're likely to find just one civilisation
40:00 <GreekSnake> well there are billions of them
40:00 <GreekSnake> so there should be thousands of civilizations out there
40:00 <Tigger_> yes, but so far away that the question is moot for us
40:00 <GreekSnake> well that wasn't the question
41:00 <GreekSnake> don't be so anthropocentric
41:00 <GreekSnake> typical Christian
41:00 <Tigger_> we are not likely to find them, and they are not likely to find us
41:00 <GreekSnake> you never know
41:00 <IvanTheBastard> not if the speed of light is the universal speed limit
41:00 <GreekSnake> but they're still probably out there
41:00 <GreekSnake> that's why I said I believed they probably exist
42:00 <IvanTheBastard> honestly i think any being capable of travelling the universe would be so far removed from our concept of reality they wouldnt even bother one bit with us in our current state
42:00 <Tigger_> but it's no longer within the scope of science, there's nothing to examine
42:00 <GreekSnake> well we've only been civilized for the past 5,000 years or so
42:00 <GreekSnake> so we've only just begun
43:00 <Tigger_> I think even if they are advanced beyond our comprehension, they would still be quite amazed to discover that there's other sentient beings in the universe, so would pay attention
44:00 <GreekSnake> I've never understood where this assumption that they must be way more advanced than us comes from
44:00 <GreekSnake> the ones closest to us probably aren't that advanced, which is why we have yet to make contact
44:00 <Tigger_> if they're less advanced than us, by even ten thousand years, they're still a huge risk to us
45:00 <IvanTheBastard> greek, im only supposing that if they are capable of spaceflight that would enable them to travel beyod the reaches of their own solar systems and survive
45:00 <GreekSnake> well it could be the case that civilizations capable of space flight are even rarer than intelligent life
46:00 <GreekSnake> and that most extraterrestrial civilizations are on the level of pre-modern humanity
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> would certainly be something to consider
46:00 <Tigger_> the Harry Turtledove Worldwar novels have an alien probe discover Earth in the 12th century, and reports that we're very primitive, so they send an invasion force to Earth, which takes 800 years to get here, and they find that Earth has nearly caught up to them technologically, what we did in 800 years took them 50,000 years
47:00 <GreekSnake> besides, in Avatar we were the filthy imperialists
47:00 <GreekSnake> well we're going backwards civilizationally, so don't hold your breath
48:00 <Tigger_> well they turn up during WW2, and Hitler saves the world
48:00 <GreekSnake> heh
48:00 <GreekSnake> why did they refrain from invading?
48:00 <GreekSnake> Hitler scared them off?
49:00 <Tigger_> they continued the invasion, but they weren't prepared for anything other than knights on horseback
49:00 <GreekSnake> oh, so they actually engaged Hitler on the battlefield
49:00 <Tigger_> yes
50:00 <GreekSnake> what did Hitler think of them?
50:00 <GreekSnake> extraterrestrial Zionist conspiracy?
51:00 <notlock> Guess whats on TV tonight
51:00 <Tigger_> Hitler takes advantage of the brief lull in the fighting to order an artillery unit in Ukraine to attack an alien base using railroad guns. The German battery manages to destroy two of the Race's ships (the 67th Emperor Sohrheb and the 56th Emperor Jossano), including the one which carries the bulk of the Conquest Fleet's atomic stockpile. The resulting explosion sends chunks of plutonium flying across several acres. Soviet partisans take 
51:00 <Tigger_> notice of the care with which the Race goes about collecting the strange metal.
52:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, the second season of Looking débuts on January 11, 2015
52:00 <silverapple> hey guys whats up
52:00 <Tigger_> hi silverapple 
52:00 <silverapple> anyone awake tonight?
53:00 <silverapple> tigger just the man i want to see loll how you doing mate
53:00 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, I shall watch it, though I'm not expecting much
53:00 <silverapple> i had to sleep last night because all i remember was the gay chat was going on and on for a while
53:00 <GreekSnake> so the Soviets were allied with the alien invaders?
53:00 <silverapple> what are you guys talking about?
53:00 <silverapple> whats the discussion tonight
54:00 <notlock> silverapple, there is no actual political discussion here
54:00 <silverapple> depends how you view politics
54:00 <erlich> Tigger_, did you notice that Nicolas Cage has now been in 2 big movies about end-times?
54:00 <Tigger_> we are discussing if aliens exist
55:00 <silverapple> political discussion can be seen as just an expression of opnions
55:00 <IvanTheBastard> We're not saying it was aliens
55:00 <IvanTheBastard> But it was aliens.
55:00 <Tigger_> erlich, I didn't notice that, but the first one, I forget its name, was pretty lame
55:00 <silverapple> thats all politics is reallyt
55:00 <erlich> Knowing?
55:00 <Tigger_> that's it
55:00 <erlich> im about to re-watch it now
55:00 <silverapple> aliens definately exist
55:00 <silverapple> thanks tigger lol
55:00 <silverapple> well thats my theory anyway, i agree aliens exist
55:00 <GreekSnake> Knowing was shit
55:00 <silverapple> i likes knowing
55:00 <GreekSnake> I hate Nicholas Cage anyway
55:00 <silverapple> that was a great movie why are you knocking it
55:00 <notlock> Tigger_ is a alien
55:00 <GreekSnake> it was silly
56:00 <silverapple> cage hasnt made good movies lately
56:00 <GreekSnake> even Arnie did a better job in End of Days
56:00 <silverapple> hes made some really crap ones, but there are some classics around
56:00 <Tigger_> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/we-are-alone-in-the-galaxy-brian-cox-20141027-11crqq.html  <- how we got onto this
56:00 <silverapple> and some recent ones that he did were still pretty good, hes still got it
56:00 <Tigger_> when Alex Proyas made Dark City, I thought he was going to be one of the great directors, but ever since then it has all been rubbish
57:00 <silverapple> tigger has the best articles
57:00 <GreekSnake> we could be alone in the galaxy, but since there are billions of galaxies in the universe it's almost an irrelevant point
57:00 <erlich> im downloading Dark City now
57:00 <silverapple> were not alone thats for sure
57:00 <silverapple> there are eyes everywhere on this earth
57:00 <silverapple> whoevers watching us can see and hear every single thing
58:00 <silverapple> i really believe light globes are radio transmitters and listening devices
58:00 <GreekSnake> Correction: An earlier version of the story used the word 'universe' instead of 'galaxy' when referring to Professor Cox's views. 
58:00 <Tigger_> there might be a civilisation in another galaxy, but if there is or isn't is not a scientific question
58:00 <GreekSnake> LOL
58:00 <silverapple> they are really strange looking things, have you ever looked inside a light globe
58:00 <GreekSnake> the correction down the bottom says it all, really
58:00 <silverapple> theres something weird going on in there
58:00 <silverapple> they can watch us through our tv screens too
58:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, why do you assume that we will never be able to explore the universe beyond our own galaxy?
58:00 <Tigger_> they misquoted him, as a journalist typically doesn't know the difference between galaxy and universe
58:00 <silverapple> and hear us through radio
59:00 <erlich> silverapple, this is true
59:00 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, how would we get there?
59:00 <GreekSnake> with technology that hasn't been conceived of yet
59:00 <GreekSnake> look how far we've come in just teh past century
00:00 <GreekSnake> once we stop being held back by feeding/fighting muds, we'll be able to progress to the next level
01:00 <Tigger_> you would need a way to travel faster than the speed of light, and there's no theoretical way to do that
01:00 <GreekSnake> unless the muds manage to take over in which case all bets are off
01:00 <silverapple> teleportation
01:00 <silverapple> its possible
01:00 <notlock> hibernation
01:00 <silverapple> is that even a word
01:00 <GreekSnake> how far away is the nearest other galaxy?
01:00 <silverapple> teleportation hmm il have to check
01:00 <Tigger_> the Andromeda Galaxy is about 200,000 light years I think
01:00 <notlock> they should just send drones
01:00 <notlock> robots
02:00 <GreekSnake> well we'd have to scour our own galaxy first, obviously
02:00 <GreekSnake> we can't simply rely on Brian Cox
02:00 <Tigger_> no, 2.5 million light years
02:00 <notlock> there are the greys from Zeta Reticuli
03:00 <notlock> then the Nordics I think they are around the Andromeda Galaxy
03:00 <GreekSnake> the Pleiadians...
03:00 <notlock> yes
03:00 <Tigger_> lol
03:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, I think the existence of extraterrestrial life is far more likely than the existence of God
04:00 <mrwuf> whats the difference
04:00 <Tigger_> right now science favours God
04:00 <GreekSnake> does not
04:00 <notlock> i think there could be life in one of jupiters moons or whateva europa just like fish type life
05:00 <GreekSnake> the culturally mandated religious affiliations of scientists don't count
05:00 <IvanTheBastard> i actually think that either is a leap of faith
05:00 <GreekSnake> scientists live in human societies like anyone else
05:00 <Tigger_> such as Sir Fred Hoyle's observation that the carbon isotope generated in supernova that allows more complex elements to come into being via fusion, shouldn't really be there, and someone must've designed the laws of physics to make it do that
05:00 <mrwuf> you are right to be skeptical, but lack of evidence does not prove anything, there are ways to meet God and if you search you will find it
06:00 <notlock> but at the end of the day they spend millions of dollars on exploring space etc... what about using that money here on earth ?
06:00 <GreekSnake> you yourself have said that God is scientifically unverifiable 
06:00 <IvanTheBastard> Tigger_ are you actually christian or just a creationist of some sort?
06:00 <Tigger_> using money here on earth = wasting it on single mothers and muslims
06:00 <IvanTheBastard> i think its abit rich to argue that the christian god could exist in his entirety yet aliens dont
07:00 <GreekSnake> lol
07:00 <GreekSnake> notlock, how very mundane that would be
07:00 <mrwuf> what do you suppose the difference is between aliens, souls, God, demons, aren't they simply the same thing by a different name
07:00 <GreekSnake> no
07:00 <Tigger_> Ivan, I am a fence sitter with regards to creationism, I see it and Intelligent Design more as a critique of scientific orthodoxy than necessarily a competing view
07:00 <GreekSnake> aliens are actual physical beings that live very far away
08:00 <mrwuf> so you believe that life cannot exist outside the physical?
08:00 <GreekSnake> of course it can't
08:00 <notlock> we can't exist outside our own physical
08:00 <mrwuf> your monkey ears, eyes, nose, touch, can see everything?
08:00 <Tigger_> one thing I like about evolution: it implies that some races must be superior to others
08:00 <silverapple> theres diff types of aliens
09:00 <GreekSnake> no, human senses are limited in their perception of the physical world
09:00 <IvanTheBastard> Yeah ok i understand Tigger_
09:00 <GreekSnake> that doesn't mean there is metaphysical life
09:00 <silverapple> the reptilians are bad ones, then theres supposed to be some good ones too
09:00 <silverapple> like those little grey ones
09:00 <Tigger_> but even the Bible says that blacks (the sons of Ham) are destined to be nothing more than slaves
09:00 <notlock> the little grey ones just kidnap you for a few hours and rape you but they bring you home
09:00 <mrwuf> who told you that? 
09:00 <GreekSnake> lol
09:00 <GreekSnake> I love how aliens are sexualized in popular culture
10:00 <mrwuf> don't go down the back garden, a demon lives there! trust us!! as we acquire wealth from your work
10:00 <Tigger_> we all know that any sufficiently advanced race will become an all male society when they figure out how to breed without women
10:00 <mrwuf> make up your mind based on experience rather than gossip
10:00 <GreekSnake> LOL Tigger_
10:00 <GreekSnake> an admission of the superiority of homosexuality
11:00 <mrwuf> I think females are the stronger sex
11:00 <mrwuf> thats why religions all over seek to repress their power
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> LOL
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> really?
11:00 <GreekSnake> lol
11:00 <GreekSnake> maybe they're just disgusted by the female gash
11:00 <IvanTheBastard> they suppress women because women have no loyalty to their tribe
12:00 <mrwuf> do you not notice that there is a male god, but no female god? odd
12:00 <IvanTheBastard> never hear many complaints from women after the raiders came through over the thousands of years
12:00 <GreekSnake> there are goddesses in polytheistic religions
12:00 <IvanTheBastard> (probably because they couldnt write, lol )
12:00 <GreekSnake> but the head honcho is always a bloke
12:00 <Tigger_> actually I think if aliens do exist they will be quite similar to us in many ways, such as the way that birds think and emote like mammals, even though they're on a totally different evolutionary branch
13:00 <notlock> maybe on their planet they live in fire like we evolved from water
13:00 <GreekSnake> actually, I might be more inclined to believe in a God if we meet human-like aliens
13:00 <GreekSnake> since that wouldn't just be a coincidence
14:00 <Tigger_> it could be convergent evolution (a dodgy concept admittedly)
14:00 <mrwuf> our human space suits are designed to navigate this dimension but to assume that there is no other dimension where time, matter does not exist exist, when there are thousands of years of crumbs left suggesting there very much is, is short sighted
14:00 <IvanTheBastard> my flesh suit aye
14:00 <GreekSnake> what crumbs?
15:00 <IvanTheBastard> Well, i have had an interaction with a poltergiest
15:00 <IvanTheBastard> so i believe, man
15:00 <GreekSnake> stories from humans don't count
15:00 <GreekSnake> that includes all religions and creation myths
16:00 <notlock> until you see some actual proof no point really talking about it should focus more on current problems on earth jews and niggers
16:00 <mrwuf> where do you go when you sleep? 
17:00 <notlock> ?
17:00 <IvanTheBastard> to bed
18:00 <notlock> physically no where
18:00 <mrwuf> so you are in another dimension that is outside time and space?
18:00 <GreekSnake> no, you're not
18:00 <GreekSnake> you're just dreaming
18:00 <mrwuf> maybe you are dreaming now
19:00 <GreekSnake> but probably not
19:00 <Tigger_> actually the number of times I've had dreams that feature architecture far too ornate and complicated for me to ever think up deliberately, makes me wonder if I'm seeing something that is not of myself
20:00 <mrwuf> life can exist outside the physical that I am quite sure of, but have no way of proving but there are ways you can experience it yourself, if you only seek it
20:00 <IvanTheBastard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6-ZYSZoDM
20:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  3 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Homosexual
21:00 <GreekSnake> lol, this should be good
21:00 <GreekSnake> again, it'll be the blacks who do all the harassing
22:00 <GreekSnake> every single abuser so far has been black
22:00 <Tigger_> all muds
23:00 <mrwuf> you guys recall that we get our culture from the romans and greeks who copied theirs from the egyptians a wholly black race right
23:00 <GreekSnake> and one latino
23:00 <GreekSnake> LOL
23:00 <GreekSnake> the Egyptians were a black race, let alone a wholly black one?
23:00 <GreekSnake> is this bitch for real?
24:00 <mrwuf> they were black and that fact has attempted to be hidden by smashing all the noses off the statues
24:00 <Tigger_> the Latino at the end was flirting, in an ambivalent "I don't know if I want to bash you or kiss you" way
24:00 <Tigger_> the Egyptians were not black
25:00 <GreekSnake> yeah, he was kinda cute
25:00 <mrwuf> my understanding is that Egyptians were wholly black, except the alibinos who had fair skin and red hair, moses led them all to freedom remember
25:00 <GreekSnake> those ambivalent types are always the hottest
25:00 <Tigger_> it's hard to imagine it now, but Egypt was once a European country, until it fell to Islam, and has been third world ever since
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> find that fresco of the eygption pharoah punishing some nubians
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> the colours used are distinctly different
25:00 <GreekSnake> mrwuf, the Egyptians were brown, not black
26:00 <GreekSnake> just look at the Copts, their modern descendants
26:00 <Tigger_> the Copts are likely the purest descendants of the original Egyptians
26:00 <GreekSnake> yes, and the Copt in my class is quite dark
26:00 <GreekSnake> but certainly not negro
27:00 <GreekSnake> it is true that the Mediterranean races were the most advanced prior to the advent of Islam
28:00 <mrwuf> http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p428963/images.jpg
28:00 <notlock> im going to go watch Falling Down its on channel GO
28:00 <Tigger_> I have a Greek foot according to that diagram
29:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, I've just realized why homophobia is still such a big issue in the US
29:00 <GreekSnake> it's all teh fucking niggers
29:00 <Tigger_> of course
30:00 <GreekSnake> if that were here, no one would be blinking an eye
30:00 <notlock> GreekSnake, try it and find out then
30:00 <notlock> GreekSnake, Do you dress like that ?
30:00 <GreekSnake> yeah but I'm not obviously gasy
30:00 <GreekSnake> *gay
30:00 <GreekSnake> no
30:00 <Tigger_> if it were here, he'd be harassed by girls wanting him as a bff to help them clothes shopping
30:00 <GreekSnake> heh
30:00 <notlock> GreekSnake, then you're not gay
30:00 <GreekSnake> well I am, I'm just not fem
31:00 <notlock> so being gay for you is just a way to fit in ?
31:00 <GreekSnake> no, quite the opposite
31:00 <notlock> explain
31:00 <GreekSnake> I don't fit in with the queens either
31:00 <notlock> what do you do then
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah i call them faggots
31:00 <Tigger_> also it's telling that after three hours he wasn't able to find one white to harass him, if there was one, it'd certainly be in the video
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> gay person = acts normal, likes bums
31:00 <GreekSnake> what do you mean?
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> faggot = queens who carry on, parade around, act like dicks
31:00 <GreekSnake> lol@likes bums
32:00 <GreekSnake> actually, the butchest gays are the biggest bottoms
32:00 <GreekSnake> ironically
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> loosest?
32:00 <GreekSnake> no, as in they love cock the most
32:00 <GreekSnake> whereas the effeminate queens feel they have to compensate by being tops
32:00 <GreekSnake> it's weird
32:00 <mrwuf> do you not think that a group of men, who refuse to take wives, that worship a male god, is a little gay?
33:00 <GreekSnake> to whom are you referring?
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Gay_9a5332_1384259.jpg
33:00 <mrwuf> wouldn't the males naturally worship the female god, and the females worship the male god?
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> this one is a gem
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> sums it up perfectly
35:00 <Tigger_> how do you know that Sir Ian McKellen was not also screaming in private to leave Britney alone!
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> i dont care what they do in private :)
35:00 <mrwuf> remember the witch burnings, where those religious minded females were tortured, mutilated and burned alive... by those men who worship the male energy
36:00 <Tigger_> the reason why more female witches were burned is because there were more female witches
36:00 <mrwuf> religion of today is extremely gay... reflected by both their followers deeds, molesting male children, and our culture
36:00 <IvanTheBastard> mrwuf, they were actually snuffing the first feminist movement
36:00 <Tigger_> just the way that women today are more likely to be into crackpot new age beliefs
36:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'oh um, these horrid creatures are actually witches, better burn them'
36:00 <IvanTheBastard> that way it scared off the movement for another 300 years or so
36:00 <Tigger_> why did we stop burning them then?
37:00 <IvanTheBastard> it wasnt our choice, let me go and shake my magic blame game 8ball
37:00 <IvanTheBastard> answer is
37:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'jews did it'
37:00 <IvanTheBastard> i was hoping for ancient aliens but i suppose that will do
37:00 <mrwuf> only gay men fear females, the natural males love the feminine 
37:00 <Warren1984> fuck no time for socializing with tafe
37:00 <Tigger_> Jews were allowed to practice witchcraft, it was only illegal for Christians
38:00 <Warren1984> I went out with my Dad, sister and aunty
38:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984 
38:00 <Warren1984> becauses he is going back to south africa on Fri
38:00 <Warren1984> he = she
38:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
38:00 <Warren1984> i am working in fast paced mode tonight
38:00 <Warren1984> no time for anything
38:00 <mrwuf> those that call themselves jews now are not, that group was systematically exterminated, and replaced with a race chosen for its particular attributes 
38:00 <Warren1984> i think doing fun things will help my OCD
38:00 <GreekSnake> Luca Buss17 hours ago
38:00 <GreekSnake> Why is every fucking Nigga so agressive ?! Go home to Africa and Die! #EbolaNigga﻿
39:00 <GreekSnake> lol@that hashtag
39:00 <Warren1984> get house chores out of the way, part time job, then play games
39:00 <IvanTheBastard> LOL!!!!!!
39:00 <notlock> Warren1984, when are you going back to south africa ?
40:00 <Tigger_> From the data I've gathered, which conveniently lines up with my own preconceptions, I've concluded that in the videos where harrassment is present, the amount of NIGGERS directly correlates! That being the fact that in all these viral videos, NIGGERS have shown themselves to be the problem.﻿
40:00 <Warren1984> 3 hours 29 mins and 54 seconds of stuff to listen to
40:00 <Warren1984> never notlock
41:00 <notlock> Warren1984, But thats your country ?
41:00 <notlock> are you a traitor to your own country 
42:00 <GreekSnake> his country has disowned him for being white
42:00 <notlock> Well I guess you came here because south africa is SHIT 
42:00 <Tigger_> Occupied Rhodesia is Warren1984's actual country
44:00 <mrwuf> if someone took you out of your country, made you a slave in a foreign land, with a alien culture and language, how might you and your offspring look after a few generations, remembering your hosts create a toxic culture for you with rap music that promotes drug use and pushes very little value to education, if we measure a fishes worth by its ability to climb trees we are doing it a great injustice
44:00 <GreekSnake> turns out the "fag" in the video is a straight Russian prankster lol
44:00 <Tigger_> I had a feeling he was straight
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> of course he was baiting for reactions
45:00 <Tigger_> he didn't have any comeback lines to the mud harassers, a real gay would
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> i think they called it a silent walk
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> some shit as that model did
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> i think youll get harassed if you're anyone walking through a shit area
49:00 <Tigger_> Harim Rothman19 hours ago
49:00 <Tigger_>  
49:00 <Tigger_> This video is very disturbing, there are nothing but non-whites harassing the homosexual man.
49:00 <Tigger_> Did they edit all the white harassment out of this video like they did in the others? This is very disturbing, especially since whites, as history shows, are the most bigoted and racist people in the world﻿
49:00 <Tigger_> a supposedly white male wrote this, a gender studies graduate no doubt
50:00 <IvanTheBastard> night guys
51:00 <Tigger_> night ivan
53:00 <mrwuf> america does appear to have two dominant, concurrently running cultures, this is evidenced by the names given to children, treating women like sexual objects is a culturally problem, what that video highlights is the two cultures have different value systems when it comes to females 
53:00 <notlock> Tigger_, are you black ?
53:00 <notlock> only a black person would say that
54:00 <Tigger_> notlock, I pasted that from youtube comments
54:00 <mrwuf> different mating rituals
55:00 <notlock> white people are just intelligent enough to not make abusive comments and assault people if they did however they would be punished by law however police often turn a blind eye to abuse like that from blacks/jews
56:00 <mrwuf> many white people subscribe to this secondary culture, cultures aren't really bound by race
58:00 <notlock> what culture is that ?
58:00 <notlock> jewish mind control ?
58:00 <Tigger_> it has never been anything more than a marginal issue for whites as not many of the white race are gay
58:00 <Tigger_> whereas most blacks and arabs are gay
59:00 <mrwuf> this secondary culture that largely focuses on music, good times, drugs, exists beside another hard working, do the right thing christian one, the reason females are treated as sexual objects is because of pornography, a effect of capitalism, the two cultures respond differently, the christian types know to repress these urges socially where as the secondary culture is more outwardly, evident by any rap music video you might happen to chance
59:00 <mrwuf>  seeing
00:00 <notlock> theres more to it than that
01:00 <mrwuf> there are black people who would be equally outraged by this behaviour, and also white males who listen to rap music that probably think its cool
02:00 <mrwuf> the point is its not so much race, but cultural standards that differ
03:00 <Tigger_> white rap music is generally about different themes, like how do magnets work
03:00 <notlock> brb movie
04:00 <mrwuf> your spot on tho thinking this other black culture is completely toxic, and its not by accident 
06:00 <Tigger_> the best theory I've heard about why black culture degenerated between Motown and rap is that the good blacks didn't reproduce much, whereas the bad and stupid blacks had 8 kids to 7 different fathers, and in only a generation the entire culture took a dive
10:00 <mrwuf> yea thats probably right, I think martin luther king really scared the white christian males, here is this strong, well spoken, educated black man in a suit... how do we respond?
11:00 <mrwuf> what amazes me is how much marketing is involved in this predominately black culture, diamonds, gold, particular sports cars, along with cocaine, weed, etc all clever marketed, sometimes obviously, designed to make people want these items
12:00 <mrwuf> its a culture where anything can be sold, and will be consumed, if presented alongside a catchy bass line
13:00 <mrwuf> I enjoy this channel you guys discuss much more interesting subjects
16:00 <Warren1984> Is there anything wrong with talking to females like male friends? I mean many women present a feminine side, only to find out their tranny side
17:00 <Tigger_> another Russian prankster, lucky he didn't get shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4awVqRr1eCo
17:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Miami Zombie Attack Prank!
17:00 <Warren1984> very feminine women are attracted to very masculine males
17:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, that is very true
18:00 <Warren1984> it is isn't it Tigger_
18:00 <Warren1984> they become needy and become aggressive and domineering
18:00 <Tigger_> so how will you become very masculine?
19:00 <mrwuf> Warren1984, thats an excellent way to talk to women, as you would any other human being... what I see fairly often is males who clearly are into some serious pornography, and all those subconscious images start flowing into their waking mind whenever they see a female, but if you approach casually, confidently you will do very well
19:00 <Warren1984> by being a brute Tigger_
20:00 <mrwuf> instead of thinking what you want in a women, think from the perspective of what women want in a man, your right big muscles are displays of strong will and power, thats within your control, so consider investing in a set of dumbbells
20:00 <Warren1984> lol mrwuf
20:00 <Warren1984> but how are you ment to treat them
21:00 <Warren1984> I saw a hot chick today with a skate board standing up
21:00 <mrwuf> confidence comes from experience, so don't be afraid to talk to women you encounter, have a few topics of interest and just roll with it, effective communicate is a skill you cultivate with practise
21:00 <Warren1984> as if I would give my seat away for her
21:00 <mrwuf> thats very polite, to offer a female your seat, but on a crowded bus thats high stakes poker my friend
22:00 <mrwuf> not many people enjoy talking in front of a crowd
22:00 <Warren1984> they would think oh what a gentleman for giving up his seat
22:00 <mrwuf> what is a easy place to start is females who work in customer service, strung up a conversation
22:00 <mrwuf> they have to be nice ;)
23:00 <Warren1984> I find going into deep conversations helps
23:00 <Warren1984> thats how I met Rosa
23:00 <mrwuf> have u tried online dating
23:00 <Warren1984> nuh
23:00 <mrwuf> well heres a online community full of females that are actively seeking a male, what are you waiting for
23:00 <mrwuf> http://www.pof.com
23:00 <Warren1984> but the prince in shining armor stuff is bullshit
24:00 <mrwuf> fortune favours the brave
24:00 <Warren1984> they should focus on reality and get rid of fantasy
24:00 <mrwuf> well knowing how to be price charming is a excellent way of making them like you, is it not?
25:00 <Warren1984> the most attractive girls are the most insecure
25:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, tomorrow I am going to hose down my courtyard with high pressure water to clean out the grit from between the pavers
25:00 <Tigger_> that will be my chore for the day
25:00 <mrwuf> my experience is its the very fat ones that are most insecure
25:00 <mrwuf> they have grown up being told they are ugly etc
25:00 <Tigger_> really?  I've only noticed fat women thinking they're supermodels
26:00 <mrwuf> oh yea but see that for what it is
26:00 <mrwuf> thats a insecure ego over compensating 
26:00 <Warren1984> http://www.cracked.com/article_18440_6-things-men-do-to-get-laid-that-science-says-turn-women-off.html
26:00 <Warren1984> 6 Things Men Do To Get Laid That Science Says Turn Women Off
28:00 <mrwuf> tell a fat girl she's beautiful and she will fall in love, tell a skinny bitch she's beautiful and she will think your a chump
29:00 <Warren1984> Unsurprisingly, the more attractive you find a woman, the worse this effect is and the stupider you will sound when talking to her.
29:00 <Warren1984> Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_18440_6-things-men-do-to-get-laid-that-science-says-turn-women-off.html#ixzz3Irumdqri
30:00 <Warren1984> just talk to them as if you are mates
30:00 <mrwuf> I think your theory is up to scratch, seek more practical experience, online dating is fairly easy 
30:00 <Warren1984> However, one of the scientists did say the difference could be down to the fact that women are interested in things other than looks while men are "reproductively focused," which is a much more tactful, scientific way of saying, "Dudes get easily distracted by the thought of boning."
31:00 <mrwuf> girls love six-packs
32:00 <mrwuf> and thats just about diet, atkins or the low carb diet will burn fat off like pound per day
32:00 <mrwuf> IM doing it now
32:00 <mrwuf> theres no need to exercise, just eat whatever you want except avoid carbohydrates
33:00 <Warren1984> experiment
33:00 <mrwuf> body will change into a state of ketosis burning fat for energy
33:00 <Warren1984> find different ways to talk to women
33:00 <Warren1984> or let them come to you
33:00 <mrwuf> you don't even have to say anything, in fact in my experience I've found the less I said the better
34:00 <mrwuf> most guys talk themselves out of getting laid, rather than into
34:00 <mrwuf> girls love sex, theres just cultural taboos about being called a whore/slut
34:00 <mrwuf> focus on the things you can control, your diet and body
34:00 <mrwuf> then it doesn't matter what you say
34:00 <mrwuf> truly 
35:00 <Tigger_> or just talk about a subject that is above their educational level, but not Star Trek trivia
35:00 <mrwuf> I'm sure you've seen those dumb as doornails males with buff bodies with hot babes
35:00 <Warren1984> what if you have defective genes and you just want a woman to make a baby for you
35:00 <mrwuf> theres a good book How to Win Friends and Influence People that covers all the topics for effective interpersonal skills
36:00 <mrwuf> well like the rest of the males you want to select a partner thats receptive and start boning
36:00 <Warren1984> yeah but that book is old
36:00 <Warren1984> out-of-date
36:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, have you read it yet?
36:00 <mrwuf> truths are timeless
36:00 <Warren1984> yeah
36:00 <Warren1984> I can't find it
36:00 <Warren1984> I like to refer back to it, every now and again
37:00 <Warren1984> the book has its pros and cons
37:00 <Warren1984> for example giving rewards to people who do good things
37:00 <mrwuf> don't focus on girls
37:00 <mrwuf> thats too much pressure
37:00 <Warren1984> rather than punish for the bad things
37:00 <mrwuf> divide your life into three divisions; romance, money, health
38:00 <Warren1984> focus on 1. career 2. health 3. money
38:00 <Warren1984> but do all women want romance?
38:00 <mrwuf> health is a great place to begin
38:00 <Warren1984> actually no. 1 would be health no. 2 is comics
38:00 <mrwuf> they want a young strong male to bone them
38:00 <mrwuf> become that male
39:00 <Warren1984> but you have to accept yourself as imperfect
39:00 <Warren1984> have you ever thought that maybe humans are not monogamous
39:00 <mrwuf> that sounds like quitting
39:00 <Warren1984> If you want children
39:00 <Warren1984> its a hard decision
39:00 <Warren1984> either you like them or you don't
39:00 <mrwuf> you don't fail until you quit, you may fall down, but thats just an experience or lesson that gets you closer to your goal
40:00 <Warren1984> because you can become a single father
40:00 <Warren1984> see if I go and get a chick pregnant, then my life can change
40:00 <mrwuf> focus on the things you can control
40:00 <mrwuf> is your life so great now that a change is going to bad
40:00 <Warren1984> yeah that's true
41:00 <Warren1984> since I have ADHD I can't plan well
41:00 <Warren1984> so I take 1 day at a time
41:00 <mrwuf> you have plenty of obstacles in your path, don't let yourself become one of them
41:00 <Warren1984> its like I start a course can't see the finishing line and so I quit
41:00 <mrwuf> winners never quit, and quitters never win
41:00 <mrwuf> it always seems impossible until its done
41:00 <Warren1984> no point in starting something you will quit
42:00 <Warren1984> you learn a lot from having children
42:00 <mrwuf> don't fear failure, even in great attempts there is greatness in failure - bruce lee
42:00 <Warren1984> life becomes more stressful
42:00 <mrwuf> rule your mind or it will rule you
42:00 <Warren1984> follow what ever philosophy you want
43:00 <mrwuf> theres no change without resistance - i forget
43:00 <mrwuf> career is something to think about but your immediate focus ought be your health
43:00 <Warren1984> I am a deep thinker and most of my life I spend in my head
44:00 <Warren1984> so relationships can become unimportant to me
44:00 <Warren1984> which is dangerous
44:00 <mrwuf> don't make excuses
44:00 <mrwuf> if you want something enough you will obtain it, otherwise you will find an excuse
44:00 <Warren1984> 1st health 2nd career 3rd running a household
45:00 <mrwuf> health and career, excellent goals
45:00 <mrwuf> you know the difference between dreams and goals? a deadline
45:00 <Warren1984> and running a household
45:00 <Warren1984> long range planning
45:00 <mrwuf> thats an excuse not a goal
46:00 <Warren1984> no if you don't have a woman to run the household, then you must know how to do it
46:00 <Warren1984> and so time management is the most important concept
46:00 <mrwuf> houses don't need to be run
46:00 <Warren1984> yeah they do
46:00 <Warren1984> dunnies to be cleaned
46:00 <Warren1984> cleaning
46:00 <Warren1984> creating stock orders
47:00 <mrwuf> believe in yourself
47:00 <Warren1984> scanning the house for problems
47:00 <Warren1984> turning those problems into plans of action
47:00 <Warren1984> everything is about planning
48:00 <Warren1984> maintenance
48:00 <Warren1984> fixing your car
48:00 <mrwuf> none of these things are important 
48:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, do you hose your courtyard down and use high pressure water between the pavers to clean out all the accumulated grit?
49:00 <Warren1984> yes Tigger_
49:00 <mrwuf> what you need are successful friends, Im sensing you have a strong dominant toxic influence in your life 
49:00 <Tigger_> when did you do it last?
49:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf you need to keep the garden good
49:00 <Warren1984> so many things to do around a house
49:00 <Warren1984> esp if you have children
49:00 <mrwuf> nope, not important as health and a career
50:00 <Tigger_> how do you meet successful friends?
50:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf I am a realist
50:00 <Warren1984> I see the problem and use a solution
50:00 <Warren1984> or find a solution
51:00 <mrwuf> well you have a friendly demeanour and never make enemies, if someone is dangerous you befriend them immediately to prevent them injuring you, and you know how to communicate effectively, so that everyone likes you, then you pick your friends
51:00 <Warren1984> the highest most paid achievers are good at putting things into solid plans of action
51:00 <mrwuf> so like the HTWFAIP book states, don't criticise, don't condem, and don't complain, and most of all don't kick over the honey pot
51:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf why not be fearless
52:00 <Warren1984> and destroy them if need be
52:00 <mrwuf> well people that don't fear anything also don't love anything, you can be fearful but you must be courageous also
52:00 <Warren1984> anyyway how do you define success?
52:00 <mrwuf> if I befriend my enemy, have I not destroyed an enemy? - buddah or someone
53:00 <mrwuf> success if obtaining the goals you set for yourself
53:00 <Warren1984> no you engage in conflict and feel fearless
54:00 <mrwuf> thats much more tricky, its easy to burn a bridge, much harder to build one again
54:00 <Warren1984> well thats what creates differences in leadership
54:00 <mrwuf> if you never make enemies, you will be welcome anywhere
54:00 <Warren1984> you bring an army of men, with the latest scientific weapons and destroy those who challenge you
55:00 <Warren1984> yeah
55:00 <Warren1984> everyone wants different things
55:00 <mrwuf> what do you want
55:00 <Warren1984> its like we live in a country of freedom
56:00 <Warren1984> I don't really want much
56:00 <mrwuf> I think you might appreciate this; 1. figure out what you want 2. make goals and set realistic timelines 3. get to work
57:00 <Warren1984> why not make daily, weekly, fortnightly, monthly and yearly to-do lists
57:00 <Warren1984> and complete each one in a timely matter?
57:00 <mrwuf> I have a workout to continue
58:00 <Warren1984> wouldn't that do the trick?
58:00 <GreekSnake> http://instagram.com/p/vSFGx0OS_P/
58:00 <Warren1984> workout?
58:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf have you ever heard of working memory and executive functioning
59:00 <mrwuf> what helped me get outside my head, and see things from other perspective, was marijuana, but I don't advocate drugs, they have very subtle traps 
59:00 <Warren1984> executive functioning and working memory is what makes things go, as long as you physically do it
59:00 <mrwuf> I would smoke weed, climb into the roof and look down thru the man hole at my life, from up there I made goals
59:00 <[DoC]> "Gruber: GOP 'Master Strategy' to 'Confuse' People About ObamaCare"   <----   Gruber is the perfect double talking, lying, thieving, fraudulent representative of the elitist Lefturd Federal executive....they will steal you blind and tell you it is for your own good and that to defend yourself from them is criminal
59:00 <[DoC]> http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/11/12/Gruber-GOP-Master-Strategy-to-Confuse-People-About-ObamaCare
00:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf not all of us are executives
00:00 <Warren1984> we have other stuff we care about
00:00 <Warren1984> like having fun
00:00 <Warren1984> exercise
00:00 <Warren1984> family time
01:00 <mrwuf> mothers can sometimes be fearful of being alone, esp dangerous when the husband is no longer on the scene, unconsciously they can seek to clip our wings, so that we do not fly away
01:00 <[DoC]> Nato reports sightings of Russian tanks and troops entering eastern Ukraine - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/12/nato-russian-tanks-entering-ukraine
01:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf there is so much to do in the present, that we have not much time to set future goals
01:00 <Warren1984> and if you set future goals
01:00 <mrwuf> don't come to me with excuses, come to me with goals
01:00 <Warren1984> can't you break it down
02:00 <Warren1984> lets say tomorrow you will do 5mins of swimming
02:00 <Warren1984> write it down as a daily task
02:00 <Warren1984> then each week increase it by 5 mins
02:00 <[DoC]> Ukraine army prepares for possible rebel offensive - defence chief - http://feeds.reuters.com/~r/Reuters/UKTopNews/~3/Ck_rDoGakOc/story01.htm
02:00 <Warren1984> until you get where you want
03:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf CEO's generally are very successful in their career, but shit at everything else
03:00 <Warren1984> they are workaholics
04:00 <Warren1984> nothing is ever good enough for them
04:00 <mrwuf> Warren1984, what do you control?
04:00 <Warren1984> why do you want to live a life like that?
04:00 <[DoC]> OSCE's Ukraine Drones Under Fire.
04:00 <Warren1984> I control my life
04:00 <[DoC]> http://feeds.wsjonline.com/~r/wsj/xml/rss/3_7012/~3/UkGOLH6hvHQ/osces-ukraine-drones-under-fire-1415803485
05:00 <mrwuf> the fact that you answered that correctly tells me you are well on your way to become self-actualised http://brainmeta.com/index.php?p=self-actualization
05:00 <Warren1984> I control what is realistic and not worry about what I cannot control
05:00 <mrwuf> now you know that you can only control yourself, the question becomes... what can you influence?
05:00 <[DoC]> OSCE secretary general: Monitoring mission in Ukraine is multinational ..
06:00 <[DoC]> http://kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/osce-secretary-general-monitoring-mission-in-ukraine-is-multinational-371574.html
06:00 <Warren1984> well I have studied ADHD strategies, read lots of psychology stuff, personality stuff, thats why I got to where I am
06:00 <Warren1984> if I compare myself to others who are better off its just going to cause pain
06:00 <Warren1984> why compare yourself to others?
07:00 <mrwuf> Im not comparing you to anyone, you are
07:00 <Tigger_> the real question is when will Ukraine hold free elections next?
07:00 <Warren1984> well I don't want to influence others
07:00 <Warren1984> I am neither a leader or a follower
07:00 <Warren1984> and the reason been is because there is no 1 philosophy that works for everyone
07:00 <[DoC]> Reuters: Russian Defense Ministry says army not involved in east Ukraine
08:00 <[DoC]> http://kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/reuters-russian-defense-ministry-says-army-not-involved-in-east-ukraine-371573.html
08:00 <mrwuf> I think you are quite happy where you are, so I am wasting my time, I thought you were ready.. but you seem to be attempting to convince me you are not
08:00 <Warren1984> I know some people who are plain lazy and just content with that
08:00 <mrwuf> I don't care about other people, I am talking to warren
08:00 <[DoC]> Tigger_: they should hold fair elections..
09:00 <mrwuf> its ok to lose to an opponent, must not lose to fear. -Mr Miyagi
09:00 <Warren1984> well been organized, by working hard, saving money instead of spending it etc provides a good role model
10:00 <Warren1984> the role model = leadership
10:00 <mrwuf> yes you are a very good son, but wouldn't you like to be a man who determines his own destiny
10:00 <[DoC]> Ukraine Must Buy Coal From Russia to Get Through Winter - http://maritimeglobalnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-through-winter-bb0xch
11:00 <Warren1984> can't know what the future holds
11:00 <mrwuf> the best way to predict the future, is to create it
12:00 <[DoC]> Been listening to a new band i just found
12:00 <[DoC]> http://youtu.be/88lEWTEk3jg
12:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Blackberry Smoke - Ain't Much Left Of Me from Southern Ground Studios (Acoustic)
12:00 <[DoC]> Try it and see if you like the words.
12:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf only if the world revolves around you
12:00 <mrwuf> your world does revolve around you
14:00 <Warren1984> but there is other people. A large workplace is built around a system and those are the employers and employees
14:00 <Warren1984> If they don't do there job, then it affects everyone
14:00 <mrwuf> I recognise your mother is a dominant force in your life
15:00 <Warren1984> nite all
15:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30026398
15:00 <GreekSnake> 0,4BREAKING NEWS: European robot probe Philae has made the first, historic landing on a comet, after descending from its mothership.
16:00 <[DoC]> GOP Future: Congressional Republicans intend to present a plan to overhaul Medicare, calling for voucherlike premium supports to steer seniors into buying commercial health insurance, and to transform Medicaid, which would be cut and turned into block grants to state governments. They also intend to set up a new commission to study options on Social Security, while relying on what one 
16:00 <[DoC]> house Republican aide called the solid foundation of the Ryan budget plan.
18:00 <Tigger_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comet_67P_on_19_September_2014_NavCam_mosaic.jpg
20:00 <Tigger_> though a comet is a pretty boring thing
22:00 <GreekSnake> still pretty impressive though
25:00 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, would you start a terrorist organisation to have the planet Jupiter renamed to Dias?
25:00 <GreekSnake> lol
26:00 <GreekSnake> yes, it's a travesty that the planets aren't called by their original Greek names
28:00 <GreekSnake> Helios, Hermes, Aphrodite, Gaia, Ares, Dias, Kronos, Poseidon...
29:00 <Tigger_> though Neptune/Poseidon wasn't known to the ancient Greeks
30:00 <GreekSnake> I knew you'd point that out
30:00 <GreekSnake> but for the sake of consistency, we should use the Greek name for it regardless
30:00 <Tigger_> heh
32:00 <GreekSnake> Douglas Murray lobbies against letting gay Africans in: 
32:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFpjx9PSnVU
32:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Douglas Murray - Talking Frankly on Immigration [8.11.14]
33:00 <Tigger_> gay Africans are the only ones I'd consider letting in
35:00 <GreekSnake> lol
35:00 <GreekSnake> from 6:00 on
36:00 <Tigger_> he's wrong
37:00 <Tigger_> "there's no reason to imagine that there is a higher or lower ratio of homosexuals in Africa..."
38:00 <Tigger_> lol, this is all a load of rubbish
38:00 <GreekSnake> lol
38:00 <GreekSnake> well he can't be overtly racist if he wants to be taken seriously in modern Britain
38:00 <Tigger_> "Somalians want to contribute to the British economy."
39:00 <Tigger_> as if there's a Somalian goat herder fretting about the question "How can I contribute to the British economy?"
41:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/nov/10/how-taylor-swifts-blank-space-video-redefines-politics-music-and-everything-else-ever
42:00 <Tigger_> By placing the horses so centrally, so early in the video, Taylor sends out a stark and unignorable message about equine rights. And, almost certainly, makes reference to the death of Emily Davison, the suffragette trampled to death by the king’s horse at the 1913 Derby.
43:00 <Tigger_> real Guardian journalism or parody Guardian journalism, who can tell?
47:00 <GreekSnake> heh
48:00 <GreekSnake> lol@Somalis wanting to contribute to the British economy
48:00 <GreekSnake> did he actually say that? I didn't listen to it all
48:00 <Tigger_> I'm afraid he did
48:00 <GreekSnake> not Douglas
48:00 <Tigger_> one of them did
48:00 <GreekSnake> yes, Julian
48:00 <GreekSnake> he sounded black
49:00 <Tigger_> so much political discourse is meaningless rhetoric entirely divorced from reality
49:00 <GreekSnake> he was offended by Douglas's suggestion that all of Africa is homophobic
49:00 <GreekSnake> when it's actually true, with the exception of South Africa
49:00 <GreekSnake> and even there, gay rights and same-sex marriage were instituted by liberal Jews
49:00 <GreekSnake> the majority black population would be as homophobic as the rest of the continent
50:00 <Tigger_> I'd support homosexuality becoming compulsory in Africa
51:00 <notlock> ?
52:00 <notlock> and how would you support such a thing
52:00 <Tigger_> In Your Average Nigga, I call the dilemma these
52:00 <Tigger_> questions pose the burden of black male racial
52:00 <Tigger_> performance, the burden to prove what constitutes your
52:00 <Tigger_> maleness and Blackness. I am stressing the relation
52:00 <Tigger_> between gender performance and sexuality here, and I
52:00 <Tigger_> want to place what I mean in that specific domain, and call
52:00 <Tigger_> the requirement for black men to front performative claims
52:00 <Tigger_> about their sexuality for speculative antagonists or curious
53:00 <Tigger_> friends, compulsory homosexuality. This term does not
53:00 <Tigger_> entail the pressure put upon someone to admit he is gay
53:00 <Tigger_> because he acts or speaks a certain way, nor does it mean
53:00 <Tigger_> outing someone you think you know is gay. Eve Kosofsky
53:00 <Tigger_> Sedgwick (1990) accomplished the aforementioned work
53:00 <Tigger_> in her seminal study on the epistemology of the closet.
53:00 <Tigger_> Instead, it defines the requirement all black males face to
53:00 <Tigger_> disprove or accept a homosexual identity as part of our
53:00 <Tigger_> performance of race.
53:00 <notlock> AIDS
55:00 <GreekSnake> lol, I read that twice and still didn't get it
56:00 <notlock> Tigger_ is a bit strange
56:00 <notlock> no offense Tigger_ 
57:00 <GreekSnake> that's what we love about him
57:00 <GreekSnake> the fact that he's an eccentric dandy
57:00 <Tigger_> strange how?
58:00 <notlock> well for example the other day you mentioned you didn't know the differance between which had more alcohol beer or wine
58:00 <notlock> most people would learn that at school
58:00 <notlock> meaning perhaps you were home schooled and kept out of society 
58:00 <GreekSnake> yes, but somehow knows more about queer and gender studies than 99% of gays and women
59:00 <notlock> also you have interests in homosexuals in africa
59:00 <notlock> even more strange
59:00 <Tigger_> they teach this in school?
00:00 <Tigger_> shouldn't they be teaching maths and history instead of how to get drunk?
00:00 <notlock> did you go to school ?
01:00 <Tigger_> yes, but I went to school in Queensland
01:00 <notlock> what year ?
03:00 <notlock> you simply did not know wether beer or wine had more alcohol content that is the most wierdest thing for someone not to know
04:00 <Tigger_> I didn't study chemistry
04:00 <notlock> its not chemistry
05:00 <notlock> you wouldn't know this is you had something wrong with you
05:00 <notlock> ie: a disability
06:00 <Tigger_> I have never had an alcoholic drink before, so there is no reason for me to know
07:00 <notlock> well then there is something wrong with you
07:00 <notlock> and you obviously have no life outside this channel either.
08:00 <Tigger_> lots of alcoholics on irc
08:00 <notlock> incorrect.
08:00 <notlock> they're not alcoholics Tigger_ they just are real people to commonly know that wine had more alcohol than beer
10:00 <Tigger_> HP Lovecraft and Franz Kafka never tried alcohol in their lives
10:00 <notlock> Tigger_, I can sit here for hours pointing out things about you that are very abnormal
10:00 <Tigger_> what are some non-alcohol ones?
10:00 <notlock> You have used the same nickname on here year after year never changed it
11:00 <notlock> You're on here most of the time meaning you never go out and do anything just stay at home
11:00 <Tigger_> no I'm not
12:00 <notlock> Are you on DSP ?
12:00 <Tigger_> no
12:00 <Tigger_> oh wait, change that to yes
12:00 <Tigger_> D$P
12:00 <notlock> so you have a disability ?
13:00 <notlock> ok
14:00 <GreekSnake> <@Tigger_> I have never had an alcoholic drink before, so there is no reason for me to know
14:00 <GreekSnake> really?
14:00 <GreekSnake> wow
14:00 <notlock> 31<notlock>30 Are you on DSP ?
14:00 <notlock> 18<Tigger_> no
14:00 <notlock> 31<notlock>30 so you have a disability ?
15:00 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, alcohol is the Devil's drink
15:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/russia-sends-warships-towards-australia-before-g20-meeting-20141112-11lc4z.html
15:00 <GreekSnake> Russia has sent a fleet of warships towards Australia in an apparent display of muscle-flexing ahead of the G20 meeting amid tensions between the two countries over the MH17 crash.
15:00 <GreekSnake> Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/russia-sends-warships-towards-australia-before-g20-meeting-20141112-11lc4z.html#ixzz3IsLVFGuw
16:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, Putin could be coming to rescue you sooner than you think
16:00 <Tigger_> maybe they have come to liberate us
16:00 <GreekSnake> heh
16:00 <GreekSnake> that's what I was thinking
16:00 <notlock> Tigger_, so what is your ethnic origin ?
16:00 <GreekSnake> they're off the coast of southeast Queensland too
17:00 <notlock> Tigger_, is that a secret aswell ?
17:00 <Tigger_> Shane, I am of 100% Scottish descent
18:00 <notlock> I think you're a liar.
19:00 <Tigger_> well except the Indian/Mexican part of my heritage
19:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_'s a proud Scotsman, he's said so many times
20:00 <GreekSnake> Indian/Mexican, what?
20:00 <notlock> mixed race doesn't mean the parts of race in your blood are all 100%
21:00 <Tigger_> Shane met an Indian/Mexican woman in Adelaide who said her son lives in Birdsville
21:00 <Tigger_> so he decided that was me
21:00 <notlock> she was a retard
24:00 <GreekSnake> It is understood the Russians have in recent years increasingly been making such gestures and it is widely regarded in defence circles as a way of Moscow flexing its muscles and showing that it can project force around the globe.
26:00 <notlock> Putin is probably thinking what a poor job tony abbott is doing for Australian people. I think putin feels sorry for us
26:00 <Tigger_> well no AIDS delegates will be flying over Ukrainian airspace now, so they have to go further afield to hunt them
27:00 <notlock> All I know is im much safer in western australia the russian warships will probably take out brisbane first then liberate the rest
28:00 <notlock> too bad for you Tigger_ 
28:00 <Tigger_> I will help them invade
28:00 <Tigger_> give them important strategic information
28:00 <Tigger_> the addresses of the Greens offices for surgical strikes
40:00 <Tigger_>  At Strelley Pool, in the Pilbarra Region of Western Australia compelling evidence from a pyrite bearing sandstone, a fossilised beach, rounded tubular cells oxidised sulfur by photosynthesis in the absence of oxygen have been found.[26]
40:00 <Tigger_> so life originated in Western Australia
45:00 <Martinn> http://www.publico.es/politica/555915/interpol-reclama-la-detencion-de-19-dirigentes-franquistas a por ellos
49:00 <notlock> english?
50:00 <Tigger_> google translated it
50:00 <Tigger_> it's about Franco loyalists in Argentina being brought to "justice"
50:00 <Tigger_> given that was 40 years ago, they must've been pretty young at the time, and not very important
51:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/after-twin-peaks-my-life-went-downhill--i-had-to-sell-everything-says-sheryl-lee-9853425.html
53:00 <Tigger_> I now live a very, very quiet, simple life in a tiny little guest house on somebody else’s ranch.”
53:00 <Tigger_> is she married?
54:00 <GreekSnake> lol@Martin still being butthurt over what Franco did to commies over 40 years ago
56:00 <GreekSnake> not sure about Laura
56:00 <Tigger_> what do the commies think of Salvador Dali?
56:00 <GreekSnake> but she should demand exorbitant fees for her services in the new season
57:00 <GreekSnake> dunno, class enemy?
57:00 <Tigger_> they ought to, since he did things like go to church to pray that God would help Franco kill more communists
58:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/12/catalan-president-prosecution-independence-vote
58:00 <GreekSnake> Public prosecutors in Spain are expecting to press charges against the president of Catalonia, Artur Mas, in the coming days after he held a vote on secession from Spain in defiance of a court injunction, court sources have said.
58:00 <GreekSnake> The symbolic referendum, in which 2 million people voted, was described as “a deep failure” by Spain’s prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, on Wednesday.
58:00 <GreekSnake> good, he should face immediate justice
59:00 <Tigger_> what were the results?
59:00 <GreekSnake> 80% in favor of independence, but only the nationalists turned out
59:00 <GreekSnake> Nevertheless, more than 2.3 million Catalans turned out on Sunday to vote, and four out of five voted to break away from Spain. The regional government said 5.4 million people were eligible to vote. The turnout, around 40%, has allowed for wide interpretations of the meaning of the vote.
00:00 <Tigger_> that would probably still count as a win in a genuine referendum, even if you distributed the votes heavily to the no side
01:00 <GreekSnake> perhaps, but a genuine referendum will never happen
01:00 <GreekSnake> unless Martin's 0,6Podemos usurp power
01:00 <GreekSnake> since commies are renowned for being traitors
02:00 <Tigger_> they will have to rise up to fight the leftist imperialists, speak truth to power
02:00 <Martinn> after this im sure catalonians wont vote for independence even if they have the ocassion
03:00 <GreekSnake> why do you say that, Martinn?
06:00 <Martinn> because it was a 32% of participants not a 40%
06:00 <Tigger_> the Yes vote has 32% locked in
06:00 <Martinn> if you have a will you make all the noise you can, even if its not "legal"
07:00 <Martinn> what Tigger_?
08:00 <Tigger_> 40% voted, they won 80%, that translates to 32% of the general population voting Yes, in what is essentially a voluntary survey
08:00 <Martinn> ah lol
08:00 <GreekSnake> it's hard to say how a genuine referendum would turn out
08:00 <Tigger_> in a real referendum they only have to fight to get that extra 18%
08:00 <Martinn> you've explained it to me better than the spanish guy who told me how it went
08:00 <GreekSnake> yes, but most people boycotted it
08:00 <GreekSnake> so you'd expect them to vote no
08:00 <Martinn> boycott?
08:00 <Martinn> very little I think....
08:00 <GreekSnake> yes, the 60% who didn't vote
09:00 <Martinn> why would someone who wants to leave abstain?
09:00 <GreekSnake> those who voted were obviously the most rabid nationalists, Catalan and Spanish respectively
09:00 <GreekSnake> that's what I'm saying
09:00 <GreekSnake> not a single Catalan nationalist would've abstained
10:00 <GreekSnake> so if a real referendum were held, they wouldn't get much higher than that 33%
10:00 <Martinn> well there you got it....
10:00 <Tigger_> the 60% would comprise rabid No voters, but also more passive types who were too lazy to turn up, they could go either way
11:00 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, it basically boils down to the fact that half the population is of internal immigrant origin
11:00 <Martinn> I doubt it.... moreover when the question wasnt just YES/NO
11:00 <GreekSnake> they would all vote to stay in Spain
11:00 <Tigger_> why do they migrate to Catalan?
11:00 <GreekSnake> only the ethnic Catalans, who are probably now a minority in Catalonia, would vote yes
12:00 <GreekSnake> because it's richer than the rest of Spain, having been an industrial economy since the 19th century
12:00 <Tigger_> I see
13:00 <GreekSnake> Martinn, what is the position of Podemos on a Catalan referendum?
13:00 <GreekSnake> or Basque, etc.
13:00 <Martinn> you know it....
13:00 <Martinn> they want it
13:00 <GreekSnake> really?
13:00 <Martinn> yep
13:00 <GreekSnake> so they unashamedly treasonous
13:00 <GreekSnake> *'re
14:00 <Martinn> its not outrageous
14:00 <Martinn> besides who cares, the basques already take care of their own taxes... so now there wouldnt be other difference other than the maps
14:00 <GreekSnake> it is, how can you question the 8,4indisoluble unidad de la Nación Española?
15:00 <GreekSnake> lol
15:00 <GreekSnake> "who cares"
15:00 <GreekSnake> sums up the commie position on matters as sacred as the Nation
16:00 <Martinn> well communism is internationalist
16:00 <Tigger_> "we will get it all back again when the workers of the world unite to overthrow capitalism, any day now"
16:00 <GreekSnake> lol
16:00 <Martinn> if they get independence its more probably that its from the left btw, so yes Tigger_
17:00 <Martinn> the righthist basques only like , like any other righthist
17:00 <GreekSnake> which just proves that the Left are a bunch of traitors
17:00 <Martinn> well I dont see how I would become an stranger on the basque country
18:00 <Martinn> I dont even know if on the long term they will stop speaking spanish and go for french or something
18:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/12/egypt-former-antiquities-minister-questions-theft-pyramid-fragment
18:00 <GreekSnake> The world’s most famous contemporary Egyptologist, Zahi Hawass, has been summoned for questioning over claims that he helped three German hobbyists steal rock samples from inside Egypt’s largest pyramid. Hawass denies the charges, saying “there is nothing against me”.
18:00 <Tigger_> it is rather quaint hearing these sentiments that you'd normally only encounter on microfilm scans of 1920s political pamphlets
19:00 <GreekSnake> “It’s a gift from God,” said Hawass of his leadership skills.
19:00 <GreekSnake> “When I talk people listen to me, when [others] talk people sleep,” he later added. “I don’t see why people criticise me about this. I made Egypt in the hearts of everyone everywhere.
19:00 <GreekSnake> “Before, only foreigners used to do that. I went to England, and I got in a lift, and a lady fainted when she saw me. She could not believe that I was in her hotel. What can I do?”
19:00 <Tigger_> I thought the Islamists wanted to blow up the pyramids
19:00 <GreekSnake> lol@a lady fainting when she saw him
21:00 <Tigger_> The conspiracy? That the academic world is colluding to conceal the true age and nature of the Great Pyramids. They're not monumental structures built to contain the tombs of Egyptian Pharoahs: They're really 20,000-year-old Atlantean power stations.
21:00 <Tigger_> The cranks? Two men who took advantage of Egypt's internal chaos to gain access to the pyramid's inner septa, chip away at its stone slabs and scrape pigment off the cartouche to "prove" their alternative version of the history of the world.
21:00 <Tigger_> http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/why-did-two-german-hobbyists-deface-a-cartouche-of-khufu-inside-the-great-pyramid-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-atlantis/story-fnjwl1aw-1226802932762
21:00 <Tigger_> this is what happens when people leave irc for a bit
22:00 <GreekSnake> power stations?
22:00 <GreekSnake> how very mundane
23:00 <Tigger_>  Stefan Erdmann is an esoteric author who writes about a broad range of counterculture conspiracy theories. His books include The Cheops Lie, Hitler lived in Argentina, and Banks, Bread and Bombs which purports to expose the secret world governments of the Freemasons, Illuminati, Knights Templar and … George W. Bush.
23:00 <GreekSnake> lol, standard IRC fare
26:00 <Tigger_> I'm reminded of that film where Charlton Heston plays an archeologist, and pummels a sarcophagus with a sledge hammer to open it
28:00 <[DoC]> gruber has a long history of lies and double talk on obamacare.. 
28:00 <[DoC]> http://twitchy.com/2014/07/25/gruber-vs-gruber-obamacare-architects-lie-exposed-with-devastating-flashback-video/
30:00 <Martinn> about ukraine, english subs as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTMQY5dr5w [DoC]
30:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Ramiro Gomez, humanitarian activist in Lugansk [sub RUS/ENG/SPA/ITA]
30:00 <Tigger_> Most specifically, it's the aforementioned red-ochre cartouche.
30:00 <Tigger_> The inscription which reads "the gang of Khufu" was found in 1837 by Sir Richard Vyse, a British soldier and adventurer who used gunpowder to blast his way into the inner chambers of the Great Pyramid.
31:00 <Tigger_> I have read this theory a fair few times before
31:00 <Tigger_> one curious thing about the three great pyramids is that except for that inscription, they are bare of any writing, whereas the smaller pyramids contain a great deal
34:00 <GreekSnake> lol@interviewing a Spaniard in Italian
37:00 <Tigger_> FORMER Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and his wife Therese Rein are selling up their Brisbane properties, but say they will still call Queensland home.
37:00 <Tigger_> The couple have turned a quick $351,000 profit on a block of land they had once earmarked for their dream home at Wendell St, Norman Park.
37:00 <Tigger_> And Mr Rudd revealed yesterday they were also going to sell their Norman Park home, which they have owned since 1994.
38:00 <Tigger_> a shame they're not planning to leave completely
38:00 <GreekSnake> where are they going?
38:00 <GreekSnake> the world's most livable city, perhaps?
40:00 <Tigger_> Adelaide?  no I don't think so
40:00 <GreekSnake> Martinn, he's quite well-spoken for a mercenary thug
40:00 <Martinn> lol
40:00 <Tigger_> SYPHILIS has reached its highest level ever recorded in Australia, with the increase almost exclusively among gay men.
40:00 <Tigger_> Health experts are calling for an increased focus on syphilis after data showed 1765 people were diagnosed with the potentially deadly bacterial disease in Australia last year — a 34 per cent increase on the number documented in 2009.
40:00 <Tigger_> The annual surveillance report on the nation’s sexual health produced by the University of NSW’s Kirby Institute said unprotected sex between men was the main driver of new diagnoses between 2009 and 2013.
41:00 <Tigger_> I always said gays had a thing for nostalgia and old time campiness
41:00 <Tigger_> time to bring syphilis back
41:00 <GreekSnake> 4,4not to mention the fact that I'd do him like a dinner
42:00 <GreekSnake> yes, a couple of my friends caught syphilis recently
42:00 <Martinn> lol, Ive never heard that expression before
43:00 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, they should dress up like aristocrats in the court of King Louis XIV, the perfect syphilis cosplay
43:00 <GreekSnake> lol
43:00 <GreekSnake> the circumstances under which they caught it were far more banal, I'm afraid
43:00 <Tigger_> what happened?
44:00 <GreekSnake> one of them barebacked a recently arrived Filipino bottom
44:00 <GreekSnake> so deserved it, really
45:00 <Tigger_> the filo was on top?
46:00 <Tigger_> or is syphilis that contagious you can get it either way?
48:00 <Tigger_> Other statistics include the finding that the number of people dying from liver disease related to hepatitis C, which is transmitted through blood to blood contact, has more than doubled in a decade.
48:00 <Tigger_> Over 10,000 people are diagnosed with the virus that causes inflammation of the liver each year.
48:00 <Tigger_> Around 630 Australians died from hepatitis C-related liver failure and liver cancer in 2013.
48:00 <Tigger_> “Hepatitis C is a very serious health issue that is very much in need of more public and policy attention,” said Prof de Wit.
48:00 <Tigger_> damio
48:00 <GreekSnake> lol, I don't think the actual position matters
49:00 <GreekSnake> but he caught it on his cock from the Filipino's syphilitic arse
49:00 <GreekSnake> the same way men catch it from women, I suppose
49:00 <Tigger_> and another friend got it?
50:00 <GreekSnake> well the other friend is his partner, so he got the painful penicillin jab in the buttocks without even being tested
51:00 <GreekSnake> I suggested that was overkill, and that he should've got tested first
51:00 <Tigger_> so was this first one cheating?  or was this tolerated?
52:00 <GreekSnake> no, they regularly have bottoms over
52:00 <GreekSnake> since the partner doesn't put out any more
52:00 <GreekSnake> and the top is a former hetero who needs to fuck all the time
53:00 <Tigger_> former hetero?
53:00 <GreekSnake> well he has an ex-wife and two teenage kids
53:00 <Tigger_> and was he a sex maniac as a hetero, with hundreds of female partners?
53:00 <GreekSnake> no
53:00 <Tigger_> usually they are
54:00 <GreekSnake> completely monogamous when he was with his wife
54:00 <Tigger_> I didn't think that sort of thing happened anymore
54:00 <GreekSnake> but then split up with her and turned gay
54:00 <Martinn> graphic adventure game made in spain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TabEO0MVOX0 english voices
54:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Randal's Monday - Official Trailer [ESP]
54:00 <Tigger_> was he gay before that?
54:00 <GreekSnake> and gays tend to let their partners fuck strange bottoms
54:00 <GreekSnake> well he says he knew he liked men, but never acted on it until after separating from his wife
55:00 <Tigger_> weird
55:00 <GreekSnake> oh, they split up because she found a gay porn mag under the mattress lol
55:00 <Tigger_> lol
55:00 <GreekSnake> why is it weird?
55:00 <Tigger_> how did he explain that?
55:00 <GreekSnake> he didn't, he just came out and they broke up
55:00 <Tigger_> and how long ago was this, gay porn 'mag'
56:00 <GreekSnake> about a decade ago, why?
56:00 <GreekSnake> I don't think he dared to look up porn on his home or work computers
57:00 <Tigger_> I didn't think porn magazines existed anymore
57:00 <Tigger_> Martinn, best Spanish game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRmOsclc-dQ
57:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Maldita Castilla (Cursed Castle) - Retro Themed Indie Game
58:00 <GreekSnake> lol@Maldita Castilla
58:00 <GreekSnake> how racist
58:00 <GreekSnake> probably made by a Catalan
58:00 <Tigger_> might've been
59:00 <GreekSnake> and it's an inaccurate translation
59:00 <Tigger_> the bloke who made this game even built his own arcade cabinet for it
59:00 <GreekSnake> Castilla is Castile, the central region of Spain where the Spanish language was born
59:00 <GreekSnake> castillo is castle
00:00 <GreekSnake> right, Martinn/
00:00 <GreekSnake> ?
00:00 <Martinn> yes
00:00 <Martinn> I dont like retro games
00:00 <GreekSnake> so if he really wanted to name it "Cursed Castle", it should be Maldito Castillo
00:00 <Martinn> ps1 games are the oldest I can enjoy
01:00 <GreekSnake> I often forget how pervasive gaming culture is among heterosexual men under a certain age
01:00 <Martinn> medievil would be it when it comes to swords and enchancenments
01:00 <Martinn> heh, under a certain age
01:00 <GreekSnake> I can't even watch Game of Thrones, since it feels too video gamey
02:00 <Martinn> old men would be into it also if they were offered to try
02:00 <GreekSnake> my bf's heckling doesn't help either
03:00 <Tigger_> http://www.locomalito.com/about.php  the one non-lazy Spaniard
03:00 <Tigger_> Martinn, you should be arrested for playing 3D games
03:00 <GreekSnake> Spaniards aren't lazy
03:00 <GreekSnake> any more than Greeks are
03:00 <Martinn> lol
03:00 <Tigger_> lol
04:00 <GreekSnake> do you prefer 2D games, Tigger_?
04:00 <Martinn> just the other day I was thinking how you werent any temptated by main stream games like assassins creed, based in italy and so....
05:00 <Tigger_> 2D is pure
05:00 <GreekSnake> 3D is defiled?
05:00 <Tigger_> yep
05:00 <Tigger_> look at what he did: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7950/ingenio03.jpg
38:00 <paradox-> wake up Tigger_ 
41:00 <Tigger_> morning Shane
41:00 <paradox-> Did your drum and bass alarm clock go off
43:00 <paradox-> Tigger_ starts his day with a orange juice
43:00 <Tigger_> nobody listens to drum'n bass anymore surely?
43:00 <paradox-> hardcore techno ?
43:00 <paradox-> i dunno 
44:00 <paradox-> Warren said you have some electronic alarm clock
44:00 <paradox-> (electronic music)
44:00 <Tigger_> I have an alarm clock plugin for WinAmp, which plays trance when I want to get up
44:00 <paradox-> trance 
44:00 <paradox-> k
45:00 <paradox-> should make it play art bell
45:00 <Tigger_> I thought he retired?
45:00 <paradox-> he did
45:00 <Tigger_> has he started broadcasting again?
45:00 <paradox-> there is still a stream for his old show
45:00 <Tigger_> ok
46:00 <paradox-> numberofentries=1
46:00 <paradox-> File1=http://64.229.220.234:8000
46:00 <paradox-> yep
48:00 <Tigger_> the song I woke up to today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwHm1ugh8Ak
48:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Omnia feat. Everything By Electricity - Bones (Original Mix) [FULL VERSION]
50:00 <paradox-> seems a bit mild
50:00 <Tigger_> I'm not into hardstyle
51:00 <paradox-> M.I.A. - Paper Planes 
54:00 <paradox-> ok
54:00 <paradox-> Hot In The City tonight
58:00 <paradox-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hdPMpTyNds
58:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Tour of Duty Album 1 - The Doors - Riders on the Storm - Track 1
09:00 <ishmael> eww an aboriginal looked at me
09:00 <paradox-> looked at you?
09:00 <ishmael> yes
09:00 <ishmael> looked me in the eyes
09:00 <Tigger_> seductively?
09:00 <ishmael> I'm not sure
09:00 <paradox-> i like in WA i say i have like 100 abos looking at me in the city
09:00 <ishmael> are they able to do that?
09:00 <paradox-> they dont care man
09:00 <Tigger_> or "gotta smoke brudder?"
09:00 <ishmael> that one
09:00 <paradox-> actually one bruddah in city gettin payed up big today
09:00 <ishmael> I think I need to tell the cops
09:00 <paradox-> we meeting at the little asian bar
10:00 <paradox-> for cheap 5 dorra beers
10:00 <ishmael> I don't feel like being violated again
10:00 <paradox-> he might have couple more cones for us der unna
11:00 <paradox-> in northbridge
11:00 <Tigger_> Shane's mates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt2LHE3oeks
11:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Noongah - Out Da Front (Official Video)
11:00 <paradox-> all up kimberly mod der look unna
11:00 <ishmael> 5 dorra beers isn't cheap
11:00 <ishmael> loll perth is such a rip
11:00 <paradox-> unna ey
11:00 <paradox-> dat all my family there
11:00 <paradox-> they just bought their casks
13:00 <paradox-> You think im jokin ?
14:00 <ishmael> huh? u think i give any fucks?
16:00 <paradox-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5WYHH6viDE
16:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Crazy Noonga Calls Police Station
17:00 <Tigger_> I love that
17:00 <Tigger_> the one where he calls the petrol station is the best
19:00 <paradox-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-0X7WsoJC4
19:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Timothy McVeigh : Biography of Terrorist and Mass Murderer Timothy McVeigh (Full Documentary)
19:00 <ishmael> sounds wog + noona
19:00 <ishmael> lol
19:00 <ishmael> noonga*
25:00 <paradox-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-0X7WsoJC4
25:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Timothy McVeigh : Biography of Terrorist and Mass Murderer Timothy McVeigh (Full Documentary)
28:00 <ishmael> shane, where are you?
29:00 <paradox-> You already know 
29:00 <paradox-> ?
29:00 <paradox-> ttPerth
29:00 <paradox-> Perth
29:00 <paradox-> near the hillarys boat harbour
29:00 <paradox-> near doctors house
32:00 <ishmael> yeah ik that
33:00 <ishmael> but ur not at home r u
34:00 <paradox-> yep
37:00 <paradox-> ishmael, You are still marked as away.
37:00 <paradox-> * [ishmael] is away ( )
46:00 <notlock> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
46:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  DJ Snake & Lil Jon - Turn Down for What
49:00 <notlock> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
49:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  DJ Snake & Lil Jon - Turn Down for What
51:00 <notlock> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
51:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  DJ Snake & Lil Jon - Turn Down for What
55:00 <ishmael> why do u call urself notlock
55:00 <notlock> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
55:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  DJ Snake & Lil Jon - Turn Down for What
55:00 <ishmael> did someone accuse of being plarvernt
55:00 <paradox-> Usage: ping [-aAbBdDfhLnOqrRUvV] [-c count] [-i interval] [-I interface]
55:00 <paradox->             [-m mark] [-M pmtudisc_option] [-l preload] [-p pattern] [-Q tos]
55:00 <paradox->             [-s packetsize] [-S sndbuf] [-t ttl] [-T timestamp_option]
55:00 <paradox->             [-w deadline] [-W timeout] [hop1 ...] destination
57:00 <paradox-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
57:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  DJ Snake & Lil Jon - Turn Down for What
14:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHTEImx8BLs
14:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  GOODFELLAS - Bar Scene.flv
16:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFPEk4ot-Kc
16:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  techno alarm 2014
18:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXHj8pJKfqg
18:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Casino. Nicky humiliates a guy who owns him money
26:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOaV06ruMqg
26:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Good Fellas Diner Scene
36:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHbK3Yf7A1U
36:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Joe Pesci Compilation
41:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OakCu1mTmpw
41:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name
42:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBB2bPwKWVg
42:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Moby  'Extreme Ways' - Official video
43:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> I much prefer Moby to Rage Against the Machine
43:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> and you aren't listening to these songs, there was only 40 seconds gap between links
43:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Sl0wMz95w
43:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Moby -  Go
46:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ILA5Cso3w
46:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  2600 Films: Freedom Downtime (Complete)
48:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ILA5Cso3w
48:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  2600 Films: Freedom Downtime (Complete)
58:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFxRn1LlvM
58:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Rolling Stones-  Out of Control, Live @ Perth, 1.11.2014
16:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZvK5754DPk
16:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Moby - Bodyrock
21:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjgPh4SEmU
21:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Eye of the tiger -Lyrics-
22:00 <paradox-> history -c && history -w
23:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjgPh4SEmU
23:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Eye of the tiger -Lyrics-
29:00 <Warren1984> hey bee_girl
29:00 <bee_girl> Hey Warren1984 
32:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvWOje46Xp8
32:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  BTK Confession, full version
35:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvWOje46Xp8
35:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  BTK Confession, full version
36:00 <Fitz> tigger the MAIN MAN
38:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFxRn1LlvM
38:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Rolling Stones-  Out of Control, Live @ Perth, 1.11.2014
39:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFxRn1LlvM
39:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Rolling Stones-  Out of Control, Live @ Perth, 1.11.2014
42:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFxRn1LlvM
42:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Rolling Stones-  Out of Control, Live @ Perth, 1.11.2014
50:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22GAajKaiWo
50:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Bob Seger - Drift away
52:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22GAajKaiWo
52:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Bob Seger - Drift away
55:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmrkY-EZy74
55:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Bob Seger- Against the Wind
58:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ul-cZyuYq4
58:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way (HQ)
58:00 <ishmael> no shane
02:00 <paradox-> ?
02:00 <paradox-> ishmael, Hey Mr Security Guard
04:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> hmmm, Warren is here
04:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> I must show him a video I found about cleaning pavers with high pressure water
05:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiRyiVgWj6g
05:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Simply Red - Fairground
06:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiRyiVgWj6g
06:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Simply Red - Fairground
10:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST86JM1RPl0
10:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Tears For Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" - ORIGINAL VIDEO
25:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uyur2uGWP8
25:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Eminem - Stan Lyrics HD 720P HQ
31:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> hi Warren1984 
34:00 <Warren1984> PlanNineFromBirdsville.ddl is not working
34:00 <Warren1984> hey PlanNineFromBirdsville
35:00 <Warren1984> PlanNineFromBirdsville I was getting 835KB/ps download
35:00 <Warren1984> and 43.5kbps upload
35:00 <Warren1984> 43.5KB/ps
35:00 <Warren1984> TPG said that is what it is ment to be
36:00 <Warren1984> I reckon TPG is full of shit
36:00 <Warren1984> when we went to get telstra to have a look there is nothing wrong
36:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uyur2uGWP8
36:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Eminem - Stan Lyrics HD 720P HQ
36:00 <Warren1984> but after a few weeks it will get slower again
36:00 <Warren1984> then you ring them up and then its faster again
36:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> look at how clean you can get pavers if you blast them with water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rjf2V6e5eY
36:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  mr blast pressure cleaning pavers
37:00 <Warren1984> and then after a few weeks it goes slow again
37:00 <Warren1984> the same reoccuring behaviour over and over for the last 10 years
37:00 <Warren1984> and my Mum still doesn
37:00 <Warren1984> t want to change service providers
38:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
38:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
39:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
39:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
40:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IehDfGosefQ
40:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Pressure Washing the Front Driveway and Sidewalk - Simpson 3000 PSI
40:00 <PlanNineFromBirdsville> Warren1984, do your pavers need cleaning?
40:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
40:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
40:00 <Tigger_> `op
42:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
42:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
44:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
44:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
49:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why did you ban him?
50:00 <Tigger_> Shane was being annoying again
51:00 <Warren1984> I thought he was talking about Jews and hurt your feelings
53:00 <Tigger_> no, he was just pasting the same youtube links over and over
57:00 <Tigger_> so what do you think about high pressure water cleaning?
57:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I think I might just study courses that the government are giving for free
58:00 <Warren1984> because of the free lunch, meeting new people
58:00 <Warren1984> and occupying my time, so that I don't get board and spend money
58:00 <Tigger_> would they have a course in high pressure water cleaning?
59:00 <Warren1984> you don't need a licence
59:00 <Warren1984> I don't think
59:00 <Warren1984> you can get them at bunnings
59:00 <Tigger_> but to teach you how to do it
59:00 <Warren1984> we have a small one
00:00 <Tigger_> do you use that much?
00:00 <Warren1984> nothing much to learn Tigger_
00:00 <Warren1984> not at this house
00:00 <Tigger_> so at the old house?
00:00 <Warren1984> but at the old house
00:00 <Warren1984> yeah
00:00 <Tigger_> what did you clean there with the high pressure water?
00:00 <Warren1984> moss growed on the bricks
00:00 <Tigger_> so you blasted them out?
00:00 <Warren1984> and so the high pressure water cleaned it out
01:00 <Tigger_> excellent
01:00 <Warren1984> it's also good for ingrown toenails
01:00 <Tigger_> you probably shouldn't do that
01:00 <Tigger_> just use it for bricks, pavers, concrete
02:00 <Tigger_> maybe you could go around to people's houses and clean their paved areas for them and charge them a fee
02:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ believe me people do that alreadt
02:00 <Warren1984> already
03:00 <Tigger_> why couldn't you?
03:00 <Warren1984> what would be good is using an arguer to unblock toilets
03:00 <Tigger_> that sounds icky
03:00 <Warren1984> too competitive
03:00 <Tigger_> would be nicer to clean pavers
03:00 <Warren1984> yeah, but you can wear a mask
04:00 <Warren1984> you would get lots of business
04:00 <Warren1984> because you see heaps of dunnies become blocked
04:00 <Tigger_> cleaning pavers would be more enjoyable
04:00 <Tigger_> get blast the grit and moss with high pressure water
05:00 <Warren1984> and soap scum in the showers
06:00 <Tigger_> yes, that too
08:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
08:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
13:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ get this -> http://www.bunnings.com.au/briggs-stratton-205cc-4-stroke-pressure-washer_p3380518
14:00 <Tigger_> is that what you have?
15:00 <Warren1984> nuh
15:00 <Warren1984> its much smaller and less powerful
15:00 <Tigger_> your smaller one still does a good job?
15:00 <PerthWaTI> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7qGCtAF_k&list=UUFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA
15:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  CORRUPTION IN THE WILD WILD WEST
15:00 <Warren1984> yeah
16:00 <Warren1984> but the more powerful one would be much faster
16:00 <Warren1984> you could clean your walls and pavers
16:00 <Warren1984> and your pets barn
17:00 <Tigger_> maybe you could buy the bigger one and start a footpath and courtyard cleaning business
17:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why do you need 7zip when windows 8.1 has its own .zip creater
17:00 <Tigger_> because 7zip can open .rar and .7z files, as well as a bunch of others
18:00 <Tigger_> it has many more features
18:00 <Warren1984> but why make .rar and .7z files
19:00 <Tigger_> 1080p movies I download often come in multiple .rar files
19:00 <Warren1984> I see
22:00 <Warren1984> so Tigger_ when are you going to get some experience driving a forklift
22:00 <Tigger_> I would first need some container loads of Dr Pepper to carry on the forklift
26:00 <paradox-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jghLSO9i3Wg
26:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Hop - Radio Citizen feat.Bajka
26:00 <Tigger_> `ban paradox- -noexpire
41:00 <ishmael> oh finally
41:00 <ishmael> <3
49:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
55:00 <Tigger_> the highlands of Tasmania are 2.3 degrees right now
56:00 <bee_girl> wishing u were there?
58:00 <Tigger_> I'd have a summer house there
58:00 <bee_girl> 33 here
58:00 <bee_girl> well thats what the car said
58:00 <Tigger_> about that here too I think
36:00 <Lish> I love you bretty
43:00 <Ozone> aawww
46:00 <Lish> True love
09:00 <Lish> I feel sick
13:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> i love my bf not you
14:00 <Lish> Sif bf
14:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> you are like the stupid girl who thinks she can turn the gay straight
15:00 <Ozone> she's gonna set you straight, boy
15:00 <ishmael> lish has given up on her negroid?
16:00 <Lish> Yup
16:00 <ishmael> what a relief
16:00 <Lish> My heart is with bretty
16:00 <ishmael> prove it
16:00 <ishmael> buy him something exxy
17:00 <Lish> I'm not rich bro
17:00 <ishmael> where ther's a will there's a way
17:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> she aint on dsp
18:00 <Warren1984> hi all
23:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984 
29:00 <Picard> hullo
31:00 <ishmael> hiiiiiiii
31:00 <ishmael> do u have ginger pubes
33:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
33:00 <Warren1984> t_banger we got a new weight scale
34:00 <Warren1984> I weight 119.5KG
34:00 <Warren1984> yeah
34:00 <Warren1984> lost a bit
34:00 <Tigger_> <brettingham1boshMVP> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/13/1415915696285_wps_4_MUST_LINK_BACK_TO_SITE_ht.jpg
34:00 <Tigger_> <brettingham1boshMVP> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/13/1415915696325_wps_10_MUST_LINK_BACK_TO_SITE_ht.jpg
34:00 <Tigger_> the blacks look way better off than modern blacks
34:00 <Warren1984> soon I will weight 109KG
34:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> and not as fat either
34:00 <Tigger_> how will you get to 109?
34:00 <Warren1984> no softdrinks
34:00 <Warren1984> water only
34:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> have you lost 10kg Warren1984?
35:00 <Warren1984> lean pork, beef, chicken, fish
35:00 <Warren1984> nuh 2KG
35:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> you were 130 once
38:00 <Tigger_> I think 123kg was warren's peak
45:00 <Warren1984> yeah about that Tigger_
46:00 <Tigger_> how long till you get to 109?
48:00 <ishmael> outrageous
54:00 <Warren1984> not sure Tigger_
55:00 <Warren1984> the Psychiatrist said I should be able to lose 1.5 KG per week
55:00 <Tigger_> what did he base that on?
55:00 <Warren1984> 80% diet
55:00 <Warren1984> and 20% hardcore exercise
55:00 <Tigger_> how hardcore?
55:00 <Warren1984> getting the heart rate right up
56:00 <ishmael> warren just don't eat so much
56:00 <ishmael> lol
56:00 <ishmael> I don;t do jak all
56:00 <ishmael> and i have sexy abs
56:00 <Tigger_> heart rate up to what?
58:00 <Tigger_> ishmael, how long do you go without eating for?
58:00 <Warren1984> its hard ishmael
58:00 <Warren1984> you need to eat the right foods
58:00 <Warren1984> and less of it
58:00 <Warren1984> like garden salad and tuna
59:00 <Warren1984> grilled fish
59:00 <Warren1984> grilled chicken
00:00 <ishmael> 24 hours
00:00 <ishmael> lately ive only been eating one meal a day
00:00 <ishmael> lol
01:00 <ishmael> it's not good since im already too skinny
01:00 <ishmael> these past few daays i have been too buggered to get food
01:00 <ishmael> :(
04:00 <Tigger_> a new diet, the lazy diet
05:00 <showmethemoney> anyon e here think Medibank wuld be a good short term investment?  time is running out and i need to decide in the next 3 hours/  I plan on buying $4000 worth of shares.
05:00 <ishmael> long termz
05:00 <ishmael> altho do it
06:00 <ishmael> take a risk
06:00 <showmethemoney> ii need the money within 6 months
06:00 <showmethemoney> take a risk?  i need reassurance i wont lose money
06:00 <ishmael> well no one can give you that
06:00 <ishmael> ol
07:00 <showmethemoney> all the hype about the share offer claims its a great opportunity that cant go wrong.
07:00 <ishmael> invest in something you like
08:00 <showmethemoney> theres nothing i really like 
08:00 <ishmael> adidas?
08:00 <showmethemoney> theres a lot i hate tho
08:00 <showmethemoney> fuck that nigger brand bullshit
09:00 <ishmael> $$$$
09:00 <showmethemoney> if anything id rather invest in my future by paying for a course but i cbf studying
10:00 <showmethemoney> my mind is too all over the place to focus 
10:00 <showmethemoney> it's been like that since i was 15
10:00 <Tigger_> if you want safe, buy woolworths, coles (wesfarmers), bank shares
11:00 <showmethemoney> are they safer than medibank?
11:00 <Tigger_> I don't know, compare the ASX history
12:00 <ishmael> i think medibank is a pretty good to go
12:00 <showmethemoney> they too fluctuate,  theres no certainty with shares
12:00 <ishmael> would've been even better if u did it earlier
12:00 <showmethemoney> why if i did it earlier?  
12:00 <ishmael> a lot of people were switching over to private insurance
13:00 <showmethemoney> what about the competitors like AHM, etc
13:00 <ishmael> medibank is like the commbank of health insutance isn't it?
14:00 <ishmael> do u kno te haara?
14:00 <showmethemoney> like the telstra of telecommunications
14:00 <ishmael> lolol
14:00 <ishmael> ye
14:00 <Tigger_> my concern about something like health insurance is that it's highly sensitive to govt policy
14:00 <ishmael> yeh
14:00 <ishmael> u want in duting lib govt
14:00 <ishmael> during*
15:00 <erlich> showmethemoney, you also need to look into medibank and what they do...whether or not they behave ethically
15:00 <showmethemoney> there was a lot of hype when telstra shares were on offer and they never proved to be worthwhile
15:00 <Tigger_> fine for swing trading
15:00 <ishmael> the more ethical they are the less money they will give back
15:00 <erlich> the system is curropt
16:00 <Tigger_> Telstra has been rising ever since the ALP gifted them the NBN
17:00 <showmethemoney> it took a while for the rise to occur though,  they remained steady for so long
17:00 <Tigger_> would be interesting to know what Mrs. Rudd's Telstra holdings were
17:00 <showmethemoney> i doubt she would disclose that info
18:00 <showmethemoney> fuck it, its only 4 gran. Im going ahead with it.
19:00 <Warren1984> erlich have you ever thought that the enneagram makes it too hard
19:00 <Warren1984> for example in most things you have the theory and the practice
20:00 <Warren1984> so you have the theory of how to drive a forklift and then you do it
20:00 <Warren1984> but the enneagram is trying to isolate the theory from the practical
20:00 <Warren1984> what do you think Tigger_
21:00 <Warren1984> its not like you can split the theory from the practice
21:00 <Warren1984> well you shouldn't split the theory from the practice
21:00 <Warren1984> both are required
21:00 <Tigger_> the CIA use the enneagram to profile world leaders, so they have implemented the practice
21:00 <ishmael> warren, what do you have wrong with you?
22:00 <ishmael> besides schizophrenia
22:00 <Warren1984> executive functioning deficiet
22:00 <Warren1984> adult ADD
22:00 <ishmael> i have that too
22:00 <Tigger_>  Last year the Stanford University School of Business course called "Personality, Self-Awareness and Leadership" focused on the Enneagram for the first time; the class proved so popular that it will be expanded from 40 to 50 students next winter. The CIA now uses the Enneagram to help agents understand the behavior of individual world leaders. The U.S. Postal Service recently turned to the Enneagram to help employees resolve conflicts. Cl
22:00 <Tigger_> ergy from the Vatican signed up for an Enneagram seminar last year.
23:00 <Tigger_> all practical implementations
23:00 <ishmael> what else...
23:00 <ishmael> ?
23:00 <ishmael> tigger
23:00 <ishmael> where did u get that bs info?
23:00 <Tigger_> google
23:00 <Warren1984> yeah but Tigger_ when you learn theories such as philosophy, what is the practical application/implementation
24:00 <Tigger_> the article was originally in: Newsweek (Jean Seligmann, Sept.12, 1998) 
24:00 <ishmael> when you learn theories such as philosophy?
24:00 <Warren1984> if you talk about survival of the fittest, how are you going to implement that?
24:00 <ishmael> lol wtf is that supposed to mean
24:00 <Warren1984> well philosophy is theory
24:00 <Warren1984> philosophy is knowledge
25:00 <Warren1984> its kind of like observing
25:00 <Warren1984> you look at something and wonder how it works
25:00 <Warren1984> or why it works
25:00 <Warren1984> but outside is the physical world
25:00 <Warren1984> you can understand the physical world
25:00 <Warren1984> i.e. the world revovles around money
26:00 <ishmael> money value isn't physical
26:00 <Tigger_> here's an example of practical philosophy: Gallileo never dropped two objects of different weights to prove if weight had a bearing on descent velocity, he proved it with philosophy first, there was no need to do the experiment except just to illustrate what had already been established
27:00 <ishmael> lolllz
28:00 <Tigger_> While this story has been retold in popular accounts, there is no account by Galileo himself of such an experiment, and it is accepted by most historians that it was a thought experiment which did not actually take place.[3][4]
28:00 <Tigger_> Galileo arrived at his hypothesis by a famous thought experiment outlined in his book On Motion.[5] Imagine two objects, one light and one heavier than the other one, are connected to each other by a string. Drop this system of objects from the top of a tower. If we assume heavier objects do indeed fall faster than lighter ones (and conversely, lighter objects fall slower), the string will soon pull taut as the lighter object retards the 
28:00 <Tigger_> fall of the heavier object. But the system considered as a whole is heavier than the heavy object alone, and therefore should fall faster. This contradiction leads one to conclude the assumption is false.
31:00 <ishmael> sounds like a load of post experiment codswallop
31:00 <ishmael> gaelileo master of trickery
34:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984 wanted a practical example of philosophy, there it is
35:00 <ishmael> hehe
36:00 <ishmael> very good
38:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ wouldn't it be discrimination to pick people by their personality
38:00 <Tigger_> probably, but so what?
38:00 <Warren1984> its like saying I am going to pick a black person to catch free range chickens because they are faster at running than whites
39:00 <Tigger_> lol
39:00 <Warren1984> its true though
39:00 <Tigger_> especially if you tell him that he'll be paid in fried chicken
39:00 <ishmael> warren people pick people by their looks and personality all the time
39:00 <ishmael> it's proven
40:00 <Tigger_> here's the ultimate personality typology discrimination: the Five Factor personality model has been shown to only be true for people of European descent, in contrast tribal people only have a two factor personality range
42:00 <ishmael> XD
31:00 <Warren1984> should the king do what the queen wants him to do, or should he do the opposite of what the queen wants?
42:00 <Warren1984> wb erlich
43:00 <erlich> tah
43:00 <Warren1984> erlich do you see the enneagram isolating theory and practical. If you were learning how to drive a forklift, you learn the theory and practical, they should not be isolated
45:00 <Warren1984> would you agree?
46:00 <Warren1984> so if you say the type 5 wants a theoretical explanation of how the world works, their thoughts are isolating themselves from the practical world, instead of shaking hands
48:00 <Warren1984> where is becomes complicated, is when you join the pratical world and become cynical about others and start to hate everyone, because you have become arrogant and elitist towards others
13:00 <erlich> i have coke in front of me
14:00 <Tigger_> not cherry tree cola?
14:00 <erlich> no
14:00 <erlich> although i had a dr pepper for lunch
28:00 <[DoC]> cool
29:00 <[DoC]> sounds good erlich :)
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