// #politicaldebate — 2014-11-08
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16:38:00 <Lish> yes
16:38:00 <ishmael> can i come
16:39:00 <ishmael> we can eat some food under a tree
16:39:00 <brettingham> HAHAHAHA cavs
16:39:00 <brettingham> 1-4
16:40:00 <ishmael> lol
16:42:00 <Lish> brettingham is legit on ignore now
16:42:00 <brettingham> ?
16:42:00 <brettingham> i thought you liked niggerba
16:44:00 <the-phoenix> ?
16:47:00 <Alex2> ji
16:48:00 <Alex2> hi
16:48:00 <silverapple> lish whats up are you there?
16:48:00 <Tigger_> hi Alex2, silverapple
16:49:00 <silverapple> hey tigger whats up
16:49:00 <Alex2> hi Tigger
16:50:00 <Tigger_> In a new age ritual that might only be found in San Francisco, Clark and Valerie took the wedding rings they exchanged 14 years ago and gave them back to each other.
16:50:00 <Tigger_> “These rings do not symbolize who we are to each other anymore,” Clark said.
16:50:00 <Tigger_> “So we’re releasing them,” Valerie added.
16:50:00 <Tigger_> They no longer consider each other husband and wife, not even romantic partners, but they have decided to continue living together in the same house in order to raise their son Jonah together.
16:50:00 <Tigger_> http://news.yahoo.com/couples-uncoupling-ceremony-releases-them-marriage-without-getting-183900966--abc-news-topstories.html
16:53:00 <Tigger_> So for the last few months, the Tates have been experimenting with an open marriage and Valerie has been in a serious relationship with a man named Joseph. While it may seem weird in most households for a wife to bring over her boyfriend, or have a boyfriend at all, Clark and Valerie say they have worked out unwritten rules for dating.
16:54:00 <Tigger_> so the husband wakes up in the morning to go into the kitchen to see a black man with a towel around his waste making breakfast
16:58:00 <silverapple> not cool
16:58:00 <silverapple> :/
17:02:00 <Alex2> awefull
17:02:00 <Ethanol> Clark will live the rest of his life in involuntary celibacy, secretly hoping to win back Valerie's heart while she sleeps with random strangers
17:05:00 <Tigger_> when she does get serious about some other guy, Clark will be pushed out of the house, with less than what he would've had if he'd just gone the formal divorce route
17:06:00 <Tigger_> white lefty gets bashed by the Ferguson blacks he came to demonstrate with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oLwQMUhvuY
17:06:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube White man attacked by black protesters. -From hospital on Nov 7, 2014
17:06:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'its just a couple of bad eggs'
17:06:00 <IvanTheBastard> stuipd fucks, when will they learn
17:07:00 <Tigger_> he actually says that
17:07:00 <Tigger_> literally "just a few bad apples"
17:12:00 <Tigger_> the comments are all gold:
17:12:00 <Tigger_> Liberal Stomper
17:12:00 <Tigger_> 7 hours ago
17:12:00 <Tigger_>
17:12:00 <Tigger_> LOL... I am sure this liberal retard will go back for more.... you can even beat sense into a liberal.... somehow in his feeble mind he will blame the niggers actions on whitey and will fight even harder to be accepted by the fecal colored parasites. Maybe next time they will put a bullet in his head.
17:36:00 <IvanTheBastard> you have to be literally retarded
17:36:00 <IvanTheBastard> to not be able to see that chimpout for what it is
17:36:00 <IvanTheBastard> go and attend in SUPPORT of said chimpout
17:36:00 <IvanTheBastard> get bashed
17:37:00 <IvanTheBastard> and STILL not understand
17:37:00 <IvanTheBastard> how are people so fucking stupid
17:40:00 <Tigger_> some people are slow learners, I suggest he goes back for several more "lessons"
17:50:00 <brettingham> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E50sUAMRH0s
17:50:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Mike Tyson plays Mike Tyson's Punch-Out for first time
17:51:00 <silverapple> hey tigger are you there
17:51:00 <silverapple> do you mind me asking your age
17:53:00 <toor> i am on efnet, chatjunkies, irc.halcon.com.au, austnet
18:01:00 <toor> Tigger_: You should try to catch out Strum and have him admit to a string of murders around the kings park, mt claremont area
18:02:00 <toor> we will probably get a reward from the cops we can use it to start our own austnet server
18:11:00 <Tigger_> that's a good idea
18:12:00 <toor> we just have to trick him
18:12:00 <Tigger_> the thing to do would be to say to him that he couldn't have done the murders as he lacks the skills
18:12:00 <Tigger_> then he'll start boasting of exactly how he did it
18:12:00 <toor> yes
18:12:00 <toor> then just take screenshots
18:14:00 <Tigger_> the cops have gotten austnet logs before in crime investigations
18:15:00 <toor> i wouldn't think that logs would stand up in court
18:16:00 <toor> you would need screenshots
18:24:00 <Tigger_> server logs, not client logs
18:24:00 <Tigger_> they do stand up in court
18:24:00 <toor> strum may fold under questioning by police
18:24:00 <toor> give himself up
18:26:00 <Tigger_> he'd think he was too clever for them, and start arguing about the details of law
18:26:00 <toor> he just wants to be the next john wayne gacy
18:31:00 <Warren1984> why the fuck is there so many people here
18:32:00 <Warren1984> I was going down to the pools for a walk, then I needed to take a crap, so I turned around and went back home
18:32:00 <Warren1984> I missed out on that invitation for dinner
18:33:00 <Warren1984> although there is going to be dinner at the church tonight at 6:30pm
18:33:00 <Warren1984> brettingham should I confess the brutal raping I did to strum at the church
18:33:00 <Tigger_> are there too many people here?
18:34:00 <Warren1984> not really
18:34:00 <Warren1984> its just strange
18:34:00 <Warren1984> and suspicious
18:34:00 <Tigger_> why suspicious?
18:36:00 <Tigger_> wb Lish
18:36:00 <Lish> thanks
18:36:00 <Lish> watching the bball on my computer
18:37:00 <Tigger_> ipad flat?
18:39:00 <Lish> nah
18:39:00 <Lish> was just using my computer to tidy up some stuff
18:39:00 <Lish> thought id see what it looked like on my beautiful big screen
18:41:00 <Tigger_> what monitor do you have?
18:42:00 <Lish> i have an imac
18:43:00 <Tigger_> ok
18:43:00 <Lish> http://store.apple.com/au/buy-mac/imac
18:43:00 <Lish> 27inch retina display
18:43:00 <Tigger_> you paid $3,000?
18:44:00 <Ethanol> what was wrong with your old iMac?
18:45:00 <Lish> i'd had my old imac for about 7 years
18:45:00 <Lish> it was verrrrry slow
18:45:00 <Lish> Tigger_ thats the price
18:46:00 <Tigger_> I forgot that $3000 computers existed
18:46:00 <Tigger_> I suppose the monitor is worth about $1k
18:47:00 <Lish> they last a long time so for me its worth it
18:47:00 <Lish> i usually just use my ipad so ill upgrade that every 2 years
18:47:00 <Lish> and upgrade my imac only when it becomes unusable
18:48:00 <Tigger_> Apple would have much greater incentive than MS to keep people on the upgrade treadmill
18:49:00 <Tigger_> whether they do that or not, I don't know
18:49:00 <Lish> what do you mean
18:50:00 <Tigger_> MS don't sell hardware, so they make nothing if Windows requires higher spec hardware, whereas Apple do make money on the hardware
18:51:00 <Lish> ah yeah
18:51:00 <Lish> true
18:55:00 <Lish> starting to look for xmas presents
18:56:00 <Lish> its so hard to decide what to buy people
18:56:00 <Tigger_> buy me this: http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=bsd&cs=aubsd1&sku=210-41287
18:56:00 <toor> dell is a good brand
19:00:00 <Lish> nope
19:00:00 <Tigger_> why not?
19:02:00 <toor> should get a laptop aswell
19:04:00 <Lish> my tailbone is hurting
19:04:00 <Lish> ive been sitting outside most of the day on an uncomfy chair
19:04:00 <toor> dell laptops are superb
19:05:00 <Tigger_> get a comfy chair
19:06:00 <Tigger_> Dell laptops are reliable, but except for the Alienware brand, Dell laptops are really for employee drones
19:06:00 <Tigger_> when you see someone with one, you automatically think "a worker"
19:08:00 <Lish> haha
19:15:00 <Tigger_> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/05/when-police-violence-gets-personal.html
19:16:00 <Tigger_> gay Anglican bishop worries that his daughters black boyfriend is being discriminated against
19:16:00 <Tigger_> My younger daughter is dating a wonderful man, who happens to be black. He’s tall and lean, with handsome dreadlocks hanging down to the backs of his knees. He has a smile that lights up any room, an easy and comfortable way of going about who he is. And his spirit is gentle and kind.
19:17:00 <Tigger_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Robinson
19:18:00 <Tigger_> it sounds like he wants the bf to himself
19:22:00 <Ethanol> he recently divorced his "husband", if I recall correctly
19:23:00 <Ethanol> ah yes, I remember pasting the link
19:23:00 <Ethanol> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/04/gay-bishop-divorce-husband-episcopalian-anglican
19:31:00 <Tigger_> “While the details of our situation will remain appropriately private, I am seeking to be as open and honest in the midst of this decision as I have been in other dramatic moments of my life
19:31:00 <Tigger_> I'd like to know the reason
20:31:00 <Marttin> I/clear
20:32:00 <Marttin> Bullshit
20:32:00 <Marttin> Morning
20:32:00 <toor> hey Marttin
20:56:00 <Warren1984> hey bee_girl
20:56:00 <Warren1984> https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154808928880112
21:03:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-08/who-warns-ebola-toll-climbing/5876648 Ebola is about to score 5000 points
21:05:00 <Tigger_> hi Baz
21:05:00 <Baz> hey Tigger_ :)
21:05:00 <Tigger_> how's it going?
21:06:00 <Baz> it's going well thanks
21:06:00 <Baz> have you kept well?
21:07:00 <Tigger_> yep, nothing to complain about
21:07:00 <Tigger_> what are your latest book purchases?
21:08:00 <Baz> oh wow
21:08:00 <Baz> well I just got back from Paris last week
21:09:00 <Baz> bought quite a few books in some great bookshops there
21:09:00 <Baz> one sec...
21:09:00 <Tigger_> this'll be interesting
21:10:00 <Baz> oh I've bought too many to list them all since we last had a chat lol
21:10:00 <Tigger_> heh
21:10:00 <Tigger_> so what were the bookshops like?
21:10:00 <Baz> I recently read Stendhal's The Red and the Black
21:10:00 <Tigger_> I've never read that
21:10:00 <Baz> they're great
21:11:00 <Baz> the two legendary world famous ones Shakespeare & Company, and Galignani were my favourites
21:11:00 <Tigger_> what made them stand out?
21:12:00 <Baz> hmm, the selection of English language fiction
21:12:00 <Baz> and the sense of history
21:13:00 <Tigger_> how big are they?
21:13:00 <Baz> probably not as big as the impression my words would give
21:14:00 <Tigger_> just a very good selection?
21:14:00 <Baz> yep
21:15:00 <Tigger_> so how much did you spend?
21:16:00 <Baz> just on the books?
21:16:00 <Baz> a few hundred Euros
21:17:00 <Tigger_> yeah
21:17:00 <Tigger_> that's not too bad, did it cost much in luggage excess fees to bring them back?
21:17:00 <Baz> I had the shops mail them to my address here
21:18:00 <Tigger_> ah that's handy
21:18:00 <Baz> yeah
21:18:00 <Baz> right now I'm reading Lucky Jim by Kingsley Amis
21:19:00 <Tigger_> for some reason Stendahl's The Red and the Black has never really come to my notice before, I'm sure I've glanced past it in the classics section, but I don't recall ever picking it up and at least reading the back cover
21:20:00 <Tigger_> Le Rouge et le Noir (French pronunciation: [lə ʁuʒ e lə nwaʁ]; French for The Red and the Black) is a historical psychological novel in two volumes by Stendhal, published in 1830.[1] It chronicles the attempts of a provincial young man to rise socially beyond his modest upbringing through a combination of talent, hard work, deception, and hypocrisy—yet who ultimately allows his passions to betray him.
21:20:00 <Tigger_> sounds like it might've influenced Thackery
21:24:00 <Baz> I think it influenced a lot of writers
21:24:00 <Baz> it's one of the first big novels of realism
21:26:00 <Baz> people didn't know how to take him back in his day, his books were different to what was popular at the time I think
21:26:00 <Tigger_> I suppose the Gothic genre which was popular then is pretty light on realism
21:27:00 <Baz> it's pretty dense and sometimes boring in the first couple hundred pages
21:27:00 <Baz> but the last 250-300 just flew by
21:28:00 <Tigger_> what happens in the first few hundred pages?
21:29:00 <Baz> well it takes him a while to make it to Paris from his provincial town
21:30:00 <Baz> where he gets his first job as a tutor to the mayor of the town's children
21:30:00 <Tigger_> the mayor of the provincial town?
21:31:00 <Baz> yeah, Verrieres
21:31:00 <Baz> so his starts to proceed up the ladder
21:32:00 <Baz> he*
21:32:00 <Tigger_> that sounds quite interesting
21:32:00 <Tigger_> particularly the perspective on social mobility at the time
21:32:00 <Baz> I think the anticipation of his arrival in Paris and seeing what he's going to get up to there makes you impatient
21:35:00 <Baz> it gets more interesting when he finally gains some level of influence and is freer to work his magic on the aristocracy he despises
21:36:00 <Tigger_> so he's a revolutionary at heart
21:36:00 <Baz> well Napoleon is his hero
21:36:00 <Tigger_> ah
21:37:00 <Tigger_> so it's an early example of the anti-hero too?
21:38:00 <Baz> maybe
21:39:00 <Baz> actually, probably, yes
21:39:00 <Baz> he's a truly fascinating character
21:39:00 <Baz> I felt anger towards him, he's an easy character to hate, but I interestingly found myself wishing him success
21:40:00 <Baz> and your heart can't but melt at the change that occurs in him in the last quarter of the book
21:41:00 <Tigger_> yes, the borderline psychopathic anti-hero usually induces that sort of mixed reaction
21:42:00 <Baz> I actually like it more now than I thought I did when I read the last page and put it down
21:42:00 <Tigger_> hmmm, do you have any titles published by Everyman's Library by any chance? they're hardcover, and I know you prefer paperback
21:43:00 <Baz> that's a good testament
21:43:00 <Baz> I don't
21:43:00 <Baz> they're very cool editions, but the hardback goes against my policy unfortunately
21:44:00 <Tigger_> I'm the opposite, I want hardback, no more Penguins for me
21:45:00 <Tigger_> I just did a search on editions of The Red and the Black, and that came up as one of the hardback options, and I see they have many more books. I've occasionally seen them in the shops but didn't pay a lot of attention, maybe I should
21:48:00 <Baz> it's up to you
21:48:00 <Baz> there's quite a few French writers I intend to read now
21:49:00 <Baz> but Stendhal seems pretty distinctive
21:49:00 <Baz> I think you'd like it a lot
21:50:00 <Baz> although I think I'm either going to switch back to Russian for my next classic (Dead Souls or The Brothers Karamazov), or English (Middlemarch)
21:51:00 <Tigger_> Dead Souls is excellent, as is Karamazov, though heavier going
21:52:00 <Baz> I've gotten into Virginia Woolf too since we last chatted
21:53:00 <Tigger_> I could never get very far with her
21:55:00 <Baz> I'm enamoured
21:58:00 <Tigger_> I am also ill-disposed towards her thanks to certain females I've known in real life who liked her
22:00:00 <toor> I think I have brain damage
22:01:00 <Baz> haha
22:01:00 <Baz> I see
22:01:00 <toor> I smoked some synethetic cannabis yesterday
22:02:00 <jeffros> loooooollllllllllllllllllll
22:02:00 <jeffros> what a faggot
22:03:00 <toor> someone passed me a tiny bit of it in a bong
22:03:00 <toor> ive smoked real weed before but this stuff because of all the chemicals in it
22:04:00 <toor> really fucks u up
22:04:00 <toor> im not doing it again
22:19:00 <toor> oh look
22:19:00 <toor> its plivent
22:19:00 <toor> Hey jerome
22:20:00 <Tigger_> it is this book by Lytton Strachey, one of Woolf's Bloomsbury friends, that I've always had in mind to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_Victorians
22:20:00 <Tigger_> I've been told he destroyed the British Empire with snark
22:35:00 <Baz> oh it looks good
22:37:00 <Baz> anyway goodnight Tigger_
23:06:00 <bee_girl> http://vimeo.com/m/109881838
23:12:00 <Tigger_> didn't you link to that before?
23:14:00 <xm> this dog is obsessed with the mop. my brother will have to take it to another room or else i cant clean
23:16:00 <xm> i dont know if it will grow out of this phase or not
23:16:00 <xm> it is only 2-3 months old
23:16:00 <bee_girl> Yes I love it Tigger_
23:17:00 <jeffros> toor
23:17:00 <jeffros> youre a dumb cunt
23:17:00 <jeffros> i'm not plivent
23:18:00 <jeffros> just cause i registered his nick doesnt mean i'm him
23:18:00 <jeffros> dumb fuck
23:26:00 <toor> IRC is serious business
23:27:00 <toor> take it to heart jeffros
23:28:00 <toor> whoever you are.
23:28:00 <jeffros> you're projecting
23:28:00 <Warren1984> the new church was good
23:28:00 <toor> im what ?
23:28:00 <Warren1984> I met some people I did work with
23:29:00 <jeffros> yeah
23:29:00 <jeffros> a dumbn cunt like you pz
23:29:00 <Warren1984> we tied gays to crosses and burned them
23:29:00 <jeffros> yoiu got no idea what the word projection means
23:29:00 <jeffros> so sad
23:29:00 <Warren1984> stabbed them with pitch forks
23:29:00 <Ethanol> \o/ Testify! \o/
23:29:00 <toor> ok then man
23:29:00 <toor> u win
23:29:00 <Warren1984> nuh jks
23:29:00 <Warren1984> I am not homophobic
23:29:00 <jeffros> your boyfriend is
23:30:00 <Warren1984> bee_girl is my gf
23:30:00 <jeffros> lol
23:30:00 <Warren1984> my future wife
23:30:00 <jeffros> you're dreaming
23:30:00 <jeffros> unless shes a fatty
23:30:00 <Ethanol> bee_girl is 8 years older than you
23:30:00 <Ethanol> (I think)
23:30:00 <jeffros> bee_girl is really a man
23:33:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: what kind of church?
23:35:00 <toor> https://ust.chatango.com/um/j/e/jewsbanthetruth/img/t_85.jpg
23:38:00 <Tigger_> it's a pentecostal one originating in the US, with churches all over the world
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