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00:03:37 * T3sl4 patpats steve30
00:05:52 <T3sl4> holy crap it's dark out, this morning...
00:07:30 * steve30 passes T3sl4 a bit of his sunshine
00:07:44 * T3sl4 hugs it for warms
00:08:51 <coppice_> don't go exporting good British sunshine. There will be a local shortage...... local greater shortage
00:09:16 <T3sl4> mwahaha
00:10:43 <coppice_> Its 13C here. we are so lucky
00:17:55 <steve30> it was 17 yesterday
00:18:12 <T3sl4> nearly did that yesterday
00:18:18 <T3sl4> the spring sun is so refreshing
00:18:44 <steve30> i went out in just my tshirt yesterday
00:19:24 <T3sl4> shhh, Halcyon will hear ;)
00:21:20 <coppice_> I wore a T-shirt yesterday.... with a sweatshirt oevr it
00:22:54 <T3sl4> you tease
00:25:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Too much viagra in the solder paste https://t.co/FbwBrcZQbd
00:27:42 <steve30> I got a letter from the building society. Apparently my new branch will be more open and inviting, making my experience as a member even better.
00:28:41 <steve30> Which reminds me, I'll have to pop in and get my passbook updated next week.
00:44:02 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/sa1CUb5.jpg
00:47:34 <coppice_> "more open and inviting" == "easier to steal from"?
02:21:31 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4
02:21:50 <steve30> I think i might pop out for fish and chips this evening
02:21:53 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
02:22:02 * Ampera doughnuts T3sl4
02:22:11 <T3sl4> i had fish fry yesterday, good stuff ;)
02:22:18 * T3sl4 coffees Ampera
02:22:27 <steve30> I had some smoked haddock yesterday
02:22:44 <Ampera> I think tomorrow is going to be blueberry muffin baking day. I had intended to do it today, but I got a late start and we're going to the Chinese Buffet tonight.
02:22:59 <Ampera> Yesterday I had chicken and rice.
02:23:25 <T3sl4> stop your bluebburing
02:24:18 <Ampera> stop making fun of my random urge to make muffins :(
02:24:47 * T3sl4 makes fun of Ampera's urge to Ampera
02:25:38 <Ampera> I'm writing a script.
02:25:57 <T3sl4> checkin it twice
02:26:10 <T3sl4> gonna tell if Ampera's been naughty or nice
02:26:20 <Ampera> It's going to be for a video documenting the construction of my 486.
02:26:38 <T3sl4> ah
02:26:46 <Ampera> I'm at the moment writing it fairly detailed, with easily explained anecdotes and information for people to understand.
02:27:07 <Ampera> Things like bus speeds, clock multipliers, new progressions at the time.
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05:40:16 <steve30> T3sl4, you around?
05:40:23 <T3sl4> hi
05:41:12 <steve30> I don't know if I'm just being too much of a perfectionist, but does these look OK?
05:41:12 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/philips_cm8833
05:41:48 <T3sl4> you're a purrfectionist
05:47:43 * steve30 coffees
05:48:34 <steve30> I'm rather sensitive to minor convergence errors
05:49:55 <T3sl4> still off a little bit in the corner i guess, but may not be able to do better overall, idunno
05:50:16 <T3sl4> think my trinitron is off about that much, ofc at 1600x1200 rather than whatever that is :P
05:50:35 <T3sl4> i wasn't able to do much better, and i'm used to it
05:53:36 <steve30> That's at 625 lines
06:20:00 <coppice_> there are always minor convergence errors on any CRT
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06:54:47 <Ampera> Breaking news: people on Twitter are having a hard time figuring out how to not be racist.
08:18:10 <coppice_> STFU would be my recommendation
08:47:28 <Halcyon> Of course I will hear ;-)
08:47:39 <Halcyon> Morning all
08:49:05 <steve30> hi Halcyon
08:49:10 <Halcyon> Heya Steve :)
08:50:56 <steve30> I'll clarify the comment from earlier by saying that I was also wearing jeans, and underwear in addition to the tshirt
08:51:08 <Halcyon> Dammit
08:51:16 <Halcyon> Here I was getting my hopes up
08:56:07 <T3sl4> hah
08:56:46 * T3sl4 bequeaths some shortshorts upon Halcyon
08:57:11 <Halcyon> Already have some on :)
08:59:57 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
09:00:00 <Ampera> how are you
09:04:22 <T3sl4> how Ampera are hi you?
09:04:38 * Ampera smokes T3sl4
09:04:47 * T3sl4 intoxicates Ampera
09:05:00 * Ampera unintoxicates Ampera
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09:08:29 <Ampera> hi DogWomble
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09:08:36 <Ampera> oh
09:09:53 <Halcyon> Nom, eggs and baked beans on toast
09:12:59 * Ampera noms on Halcyon
09:14:46 <Halcyon> Ooooer :)
09:14:58 <Ampera> how do
09:15:03 <Halcyon> I'll go to the post office after breakfast
09:15:09 <Halcyon> Yeh not too bad, how about you?
09:15:10 <Ampera> alright
09:15:20 <Ampera> eh, alright. I just got back from the buffet
09:15:38 <Ampera> kinda sad my mom didn't want to go with us, but whatever
09:16:02 <Halcyon> :(
09:16:34 <Ampera> I'm annoyed at ncurses being stupid.
09:32:47 <steve30> i just broke a pot off a board
09:33:24 Quit: byteturtle ([email protected]) Quit: I am on the side of those who think rationally, and an enemy to those who engage in needless conflict.
09:33:26 <Halcyon> Bugger
09:35:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Oh dear, it's starting again... https://t.co/qfZyPqoJcM https://t.co/YTldTFbXnU
09:38:23 <steve30> hmm, now i think i got my pin numbers the wrong way round :/
09:38:50 <T3sl4> what's your PIN number?
09:39:26 <Ampera> Man I hate TED Talks
09:40:01 <Halcyon> Yeh they don't seem to be really any good now
09:40:09 <Halcyon> It's like they are just pushing a political agenda
09:40:14 <T3sl4> TED talks used to be good, then okay
09:40:14 <Ampera> Not just because the average content of a TED talk is a tiresome exercise in oppression olympics, but they had a bad history of suppressing any criticisms that their videos get
09:40:23 <T3sl4> TEDx used to be okay then quickly turned to advertising
09:40:53 <Ampera> It's just a platform for the PC engine to go choo choo check your privilege
09:40:58 <Halcyon> Pretty much
09:42:27 <Ampera> Do they still make camcorders? Specifically cameras intended for video in that size format?
09:42:57 <Halcyon> Yep, they sure do. But which size format?
09:43:08 <Ampera> camcorder
09:43:39 <Ampera> as in, the size of a camcorder, something small with a strap you can hold in your hand, but large enough to contain half-decent optics and hardware
09:43:47 <Halcyon> Yep
09:44:02 <Halcyon> Many consumer camcorders will do 4K
09:44:42 <Ampera> Would be nice to simply have an HD one, something that can record onto SD cards. Heck, an HD camcorder that records to miniDV tape would be perfect for me right now
09:44:50 <Ampera> since I have a big ol pile of those
09:45:36 <Halcyon> You won't find a camera which records HD to miniDV. miniDV was only for SD video
09:45:44 <Halcyon> You can get HDV tapes/cameras
09:46:00 <Ampera> That's not true, I know for a fact there are cameras that record (in a nonstandard format) to miniDV tapes
09:46:10 <Halcyon> Then it's not DV
09:46:19 <Ampera> I said that size of tapes, not the DV format.
09:46:27 <Halcyon> Of course you can find anything which is non-standard
09:46:37 <Halcyon> But I'm talking about standards
09:46:43 <Ampera> I'm talking about cameras.
09:47:03 <Halcyon> You can theoretically record HD video to miniDV tapes as if they were HDV, but it's not recommended and usually the sound/picture starts to drop out
09:47:43 <coppice_> Ampera: you can pretty much gauge the quality of a TED talk by how long ago it was posted
09:47:43 <Ampera> Regardless, whatever it ended up using, it would be in theory nice to have one
09:47:54 <Ampera> coppice_, how long ago is good
09:48:21 <Halcyon> Pretty much all modern consumer cameras will record to either internal hard drive and/or SD card
09:48:39 <Halcyon> I find the HDD ones unreliable though
09:48:43 <Ampera> If I could find a camera (even though bulky) that could record to 3.5 inch hard drives I could totally dig that.
09:49:03 <Ampera> I have a fucking pile of 3.5 inch drives in IDE, SATA, and SCA-80 Ultra320 SCSI
09:49:12 <Halcyon> Hah
09:49:40 <Halcyon> Honestly, even point and shoot digital cameras do a decent job
09:49:48 <Ampera> Mine doesn't.
09:49:51 <Halcyon> The little Canon's or Nikons are very reasonable
09:50:03 <Ampera> It's great for point and shoot, but the video isn't great. It's not a high end camera like that though anyways
09:50:08 <Halcyon> I think the one I have for work is water proof and does 4K
09:50:11 <Ampera> I'd rather have a video camera, though.
09:50:23 <Ampera> What I love about the camcorder form factor is how well it fits in the hand
09:50:27 <Halcyon> Yup
09:50:30 <Ampera> with the strap and everything, I find I really love that
09:51:02 <Ampera> although some fucking genius put the ports for everything RIGHT where your hand rests on the camera
09:51:15 <Ampera> so if you wanna do something insane like attach an external microphone, you have to have it running through your hand
09:51:18 <Halcyon> Yeh they try and squeeze a lot into such a small form factor
09:51:51 <Halcyon> I used to work in professional video so I didn't have that issue, all the the connectors were on the rear and the XLRs for audio were on the side up near the microphone mount
09:51:54 <Ampera> This one is insane because it's a miniDV camcorder, it's got the full helical scan tape transport, a flash card slot that can fit SD and MemorySticks
09:52:05 <Ampera> The power jack's on the real, but this is a consumer camcorder.
09:52:36 <Ampera> I also love the viewfinder, although this one's fucking tiny, and in awful focus if you stick your eye right up to it, and the flip out screen
09:53:10 <Halcyon> Does the viewfinder not have a focus adjust?
09:53:24 <Ampera> What part of "this is a consumer camcorder" don't you get
09:53:40 <Halcyon> Almost all of them do
09:53:50 <Ampera> unless it's in a menu, this one does not.
09:54:13 <Halcyon> Every consumer camera I've touched since the early 1990's has had a little mechanical lens (usually plastic) to adjust viewfinder focus
09:54:19 <Halcyon> It won't be electronic
09:54:40 <Ampera> Nothing on here. It's fine if you hold your eye away from it like a couple inches, which I guess was the intent
09:54:46 <Ampera> but there is no adjustment
09:54:52 <Halcyon> What model is it?
09:55:13 <Ampera> SC-D365
09:56:24 <Halcyon> Very odd indeed
09:56:28 <Ampera> nevermind
09:56:37 <Ampera> as it turns out the entire lens assembly pulls out to focus
09:56:47 <Halcyon> Ah there we go
09:56:54 <Halcyon> I was looking for a little lever thingy
09:57:40 <Ampera> Well I noticed a little plastic lip thing
09:59:32 <Halcyon> Well I was about to say, that it would have been the first camera I've seen that didn't have some kind of adjust.
10:01:06 <Halcyon> Gah, I've lost my liquid paper :(
10:15:59 <Ampera> 66 outside
10:16:05 <Ampera> it was about 70 earlier
10:41:39 <steve30> dammit, I'm out of male 9 pin connectors.
10:42:41 <Halcyon> What are you building ?
10:43:02 <T3sl4> a patriarchy, obviously.
10:43:08 <Ampera> ^
10:43:58 <Halcyon> Heh
10:44:37 <Ampera> Whenever I think of the patriarchy, I start to get excited, but then I remember I'm a guy, and then all the fun goes away.
10:44:59 <Halcyon> I should go up to the post office
10:45:30 <Ampera> ok
10:45:50 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/M6CJGSj.jpg
10:46:12 <Halcyon> Aww that's sweet T3sl4
10:46:39 <steve30> Halcyon, 9 pin male to 9 pin male cable
10:46:53 <Ampera> T3sl4, ew gay, and also thanks, you too
10:47:03 <Halcyon> Oh right, when you said before you broke off a cap, I figured you might have been making something else
10:47:33 <steve30> The cable goes with the computer I broke the pot off
10:52:29 <Halcyon> Silly boots
10:53:16 <steve30> Looks like the pot isn't actually doing anything on the computer in its current config
10:53:52 <DogWomble_> morning
10:54:08 <Halcyon> Morning :)
10:54:18 <Halcyon> That was lucky Steve, what part of the circuit does it belong?
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10:54:41 <steve30> oscillator for floppy controller chip
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10:54:53 <Halcyon> Ah fair enough
10:55:35 <Ampera> hi dogwomble
10:55:48 <dogwomble> hey ampera
10:55:56 <Ampera> currently resisting the urge to go to sleep
10:56:10 <dogwomble> sleep is for the weak
10:56:36 <steve30> I need to go and put my grandmother's clocks forward tomorrow
10:56:38 <Ampera> well I'm weak then
10:56:53 <dogwomble> and i wouldn't mind sleeping for a week
10:57:01 <Ampera> steve30, why are they backwards?
10:57:13 <steve30> British summer time starts in an hour
10:57:22 <Ampera> but it's not summer
10:57:43 <steve30> close enough
11:00:21 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/VDF4zQc.jpg
11:03:19 <steve30> time for some food I think
11:06:12 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
11:06:18 <Halcyon> Can you send me that tracking number again
11:08:23 <Halcyon> Disregard, found it
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11:49:56 * Halcyon handles Ampera's package
11:50:09 <Halcyon> It's quite girthy. You went to way too much trouble and expense
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11:58:27 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
12:05:40 <Halcyon> :)
12:05:44 * Halcyon puts the cat outside
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12:15:52 <steve30> I'm assuming outside there is nice and warm and sunny
12:17:28 <Halcyon> Where? Here?
12:18:53 <steve30> yes
12:20:11 <Halcyon> Yeh blue skys, it's nice in the sun although it's starting to get cool. Last night was fairly chilli. Air temp is currently about 19 degrees
12:21:44 <T3sl4> mmm, tasty nights
12:22:12 <Halcyon> Hahaha oh wow
12:22:19 <Halcyon> How did I misspell that
12:22:29 <Halcyon> I actually have chilli jerky in front of me at the moment
12:22:31 * T3sl4 sticks a habanero in Halcyon
12:22:42 <T3sl4> :D
12:22:47 <Halcyon> It's num nums
12:22:58 <Halcyon> I'll have to send you some of my hot beef
12:23:05 <T3sl4> ooh
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12:51:32 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: My Motorola xforce phone is getting ridiculously slow at almost everything, hangs 5-10sec on basic stuff all the time. Would nuking it work?
12:54:40 <DogWomble> jerky sounds yum
13:50:20 <Ampera> Halcyon, glad it got there in one piece.
13:52:06 <Halcyon> :D
13:52:14 <Halcyon> And thank you for the card. You really didn't have to
13:52:33 <Ampera> Eh I wasn't gonna use it anyways.
13:53:18 <Ampera> Ultra320 is a bit too old for PCIe, and my dad learned that the hard way. He usually gives me older hardware he's too annoyed to keep using.
13:53:39 <Halcyon> Heh
13:53:43 <Halcyon> That's good though
13:53:57 <Ampera> I hope I got the translation on the letter correct.
13:54:02 <Ampera> My Australian isn't so good.
13:54:47 <Halcyon> Haha smart ass :P
13:55:00 <Halcyon> Your letter is proof that you're a bit spergy
13:55:11 <T3sl4> as if that weren't apparent? :P
13:55:17 <T3sl4> hey, where's /my/ card!
13:55:24 <Halcyon> Yes but I have it in his handwriting now :P
13:55:29 <T3sl4> on a related note, hows the trip-planning coming? :)
13:55:30 <T3sl4> hehe
13:56:04 <Ampera> I actually had the mind to take a scan of it if people want to look at it in particular.
13:57:51 <Halcyon> I can scan it if you wish
13:58:09 <Halcyon> T3sl4, he basically wrote the entire note upside down and back to front
13:58:42 <T3sl4> ah, a true australian note, nice
14:00:11 <Ampera> nah let me just upload it myself
14:01:28 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/561748228098490388/l4hro.png T3sl4
14:02:22 <Halcyon> Oh you did scan it... sorry, I thought you didn't
14:02:41 <Halcyon> See what I mean T3sl4... spergy :P
14:03:00 <T3sl4> the aberrant text baseline triggers me
14:03:26 <Ampera> T3sl4, what baseline
14:03:32 <T3sl4> exactly
14:03:51 <Halcyon> Although I'm a little disappointed that you didn't write "Retardistan" on your shipping label in the "From" field
14:04:04 <Ampera> I provided a link at the bottom if you particularly want to see it in US English.
14:04:18 <Ampera> Halcyon, Funny enough if you look at the package there are two labels
14:04:40 <Ampera> Apparently writing From below To is not acceptable for our postal system, so they got upset and put a big load of stickers with it in the right order
14:05:18 <Ampera> However Retardistan is more your joke, and Land Down Syndrome wouldn't have fit so well I don't think.
14:05:26 <Ampera> They might have accidentally sent it to New Zealand anyways.
14:05:42 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
14:08:38 <Ampera> Anyways, glad you liked it, Halcyon, I hope the snacks and candy are good.
14:09:43 <steve30> i feel like getting some sleep
14:10:05 <Halcyon> I've opened up the fruit things, they are actually quite nice. No where near as sweet as I would have expected
14:10:14 <Halcyon> Also those fries, I tried... they are... different.
14:10:17 * T3sl4 hands steve30 a nice warm blanket
14:10:34 <T3sl4> wha'd he send?
14:11:44 <Ampera> Halcyon, yeah those are really good. The fries too, but they are rather spicy.
14:11:53 <Ampera> some of my favourites though.
14:14:00 <Halcyon> I didn't get any spice in them at all
14:14:04 <Halcyon> Very cheesy though
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14:14:16 <Halcyon> Amps, what did you send? The box is in the other room
14:14:46 <DogWomble> Should we send Ampera some vegemite?
14:14:51 <DogWomble> Or maybe some tim tams?
14:15:12 <T3sl4> oh hey, on that note, both are in the imported section of my gocery
14:15:13 <Halcyon> Vegemite he wont like
14:15:15 <Halcyon> But yes, Tim Tams
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14:15:21 <Halcyon> I am putting together a box for him
14:15:24 <DogWomble> or maybe some kinder surprises :)
14:15:31 <Halcyon> They aren't Aussie
14:15:31 <DogWomble> because apparently they're difficult to get in america
14:15:35 * T3sl4 slaps Ampera with a DogWomble's Tam
14:15:36 <Halcyon> Really?
14:16:04 <coppice> the kinder surprise is what crappy chocolate you get for a fairly high price
14:16:05 <steve30> I used to speak to an American who really wanted to get some Kinder surprises.
14:16:06 <DogWomble> yeah, ap[arently they're a choking hazard so i don't think shops can send them, or some crap like that
14:16:11 <Ampera> I DMed T3sl4, but I can put it here
14:16:28 <Ampera> also I've already had Vegemite. It's not bad, but I rather prefer liverwurst.
14:16:31 <T3sl4> > nice
14:16:48 <Halcyon> I can send Kinder chocolate if you like Amps?
14:16:54 <Ampera> Kinder are german, and unless they are Kinder Country bars, I can get them here.
14:17:08 <Ampera> Including Kinder Surprise eggs, albeit a different style
14:17:34 <Ampera> Two packs of Mint Chocolate Milanos, two bags of Snyders (forgot the flavour), a pack of Andy Capp's Hot Fries, Wonka Nerds, Mike&Ikes, two Mamba fruit chew 24 chew bars in original in tropical flavours, and a PCIe Ultra320 card
14:17:44 <Ampera> As far as I know the only PCIe Parallel SCSI card ever made.
14:17:45 <DogWomble> aah fairy enough :) i do believe some parts of the US have effectively banned them, i suspect because they consider them a choking hazard
14:17:47 <T3sl4> NEEEEERRRRDS!
14:17:55 <T3sl4> fairy nough?*
14:18:01 <Ampera> DogWomble, the ones with the prize inside are banned federally
14:18:03 <DogWomble> fair enough :)
14:18:14 <T3sl4> :P
14:18:19 <DogWomble> aaah, i tough that was the case Ampera
14:18:19 <Ampera> but we have a different style, I don't know how they do it, but it's just chocolate
14:18:25 <Ampera> which I'm not a huge fan of anyways
14:18:26 <T3sl4> but, slightly on topic, fairy bread, so there's that :P
14:18:33 <DogWomble> i <# fairy bread
14:19:01 <Ampera> Just had to look that up and nope.
14:19:33 <Ampera> I think Halcyon has the greater challenge, though, because while I had a hard time thinking of what he couldn't get over there, he has to deal with me hating everything.
14:19:59 <Ampera> I don't like chocolate and most sweet things, but sour and fruit things are an exception. I also don't like most nuts.
14:20:19 <T3sl4> your nuts
14:20:24 <Halcyon> I was about to say, half of what you sent me was candy
14:20:39 <Halcyon> I have a few ideas what to send you
14:20:44 <Halcyon> Ashens is so much easier to buy for though :P
14:21:01 <T3sl4> oh, have you sent in to ashens?
14:21:08 <Halcyon> T3sl4, I would also like to send you a few little things which Ampera won't like
14:21:11 <Halcyon> I will be
14:21:22 <Halcyon> Just getting some final bits together now
14:21:35 <T3sl4> ooh, i like your bits
14:21:37 <T3sl4> (possibly)
14:22:04 <Ampera> I do like meats and fishes most of the time, and I'm a fan of cheap and strange things, even if I'm not always a huge fan of them.
14:22:21 <Halcyon> I think you will, you seem to have a varied palette
14:22:51 <DogWomble> there's not much i don't eat
14:22:53 <Ampera> I like a lot of things, but I also don't like a lot of things, it's strange.
14:23:15 <DogWomble> Ampera, that could be said of most people :P "I like some things, I don't liek some other things"
14:23:15 <T3sl4> i like a lot of things, but i also like a lot of things, it's strange ;)
14:23:26 * T3sl4 nods at DogWomble
14:23:29 <Ampera> Once you get around Vegetables, then it starts to get into the concept of, I don't violently hate them, and I'll eat them, but I might just not be a huge fan.
14:24:00 * DogWomble starts singing "These are a few of my favourite things"
14:24:35 <T3sl4> by the way, how do you feel about the more abominable meat creations e.g. head cheese, blood and tongue sausage, etc?
14:25:01 <DogWomble> never had either of those
14:25:10 <Ampera> Never had them. Head cheese sounds disturbing, blood sausage is delicious, and I've never had tongue, but so long as I don't have to take a bite out of a whole tongue, I'd probably be fine with it.
14:25:28 <DogWomble> but given sausage is made out of all the bits they don't use elsewhere, i can't imagine it would be much different to normal sausage
14:25:39 <Ampera> ^
14:25:44 <T3sl4> "head cheese" is just jellied facemeats
14:26:05 <T3sl4> what's usually called "blood and tongue sausage" i think is made the same way, incidentally
14:26:10 <Ampera> A nice blutwurst is delicious though, I love getting some whenever I go to a specific German butcher's
14:26:16 <T3sl4> :)
14:26:58 <Halcyon> Head cheese?!
14:27:11 <T3sl4> tongue by the way, you wouldn't take a bite out of a whole tongue, the skin is usually too tough; i think it's most often served boiled, with the skin peeled off, leaving the finely textured, tender and slightly gamey muscle within for eating
14:27:21 <Halcyon> I like liverwurst and pate's
14:27:26 <Halcyon> But that's as far as I'll go
14:27:48 * T3sl4 dumps a bucket of chicken giblet gravy over Halcyon
14:27:56 <Ampera> Liverwurst is delicious, but annoying for my lazy American self to eat
14:27:59 <coppice> and food with liver in its name should probably be avoided
14:28:02 <coppice> any
14:28:23 <T3sl4> WHAT
14:29:05 <DogWomble> what about food that has been de-livered?
14:29:15 * Ampera slaps DogWomble on the knee
14:31:51 <T3sl4> livery is very popular these days, just look at all the restraurant delivery services
14:32:31 <coppice> livery is a central issue in the UK right now
14:33:17 <Ampera> imma go get some oranges
14:33:58 <T3sl4> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/83/830692f16db01a7af0e596d3eeed54971e3a1da5929e3aef561f939cc44a9adf.jpg
14:34:19 <T3sl4> also, i didn't know this was a meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/229/876/023.jpg
14:34:30 * T3sl4 puts this in his classic id games folder
14:36:31 <Halcyon> Nom, oranges
14:37:00 <Halcyon> But yes, seriously T3sl4, can I send you some Aussie goodness while I do Ampera?
14:37:12 <T3sl4> you /do/ him?
14:37:24 <T3sl4> as long as your package isn't sticky...
14:37:42 <Halcyon> It'll be dry :)
14:38:48 * Ampera throws a clementine at Halcyon
14:39:11 <Halcyon> Oww
14:39:16 <Halcyon> Those are juicy
14:43:05 <T3sl4> well you don't block them with your eyes, dummy
14:43:17 <T3sl4> what do they even teach you in Police Academy
14:44:47 <Halcyon> I'm usually the one hurling them :P
14:48:19 <coppice> T3sl4: how to be bad comedians?
14:48:40 <T3sl4> *makes inane beatbox noises*
14:51:37 <DogWomble> nom nom spaghetti bolognese
14:52:23 <Halcyon> I made spag bol last night too
14:52:27 <Halcyon> I have leftovers :)
14:53:45 <DogWomble> it is nommylicious
14:54:54 <Ampera> Man these oranges have a ton of seeds.
14:55:02 <Ampera> like 10-20 seeds an orange
14:55:22 <DogWomble> are you planning on starting an orange farm?
14:55:39 <Ampera> not good climate for that
14:55:41 <Halcyon> I don't like seedy fruit
14:55:49 <Halcyon> With the exception of Tomato
15:11:24 <T3sl4> what!
15:11:28 * T3sl4 LOVES raspberry
15:16:39 <Ampera> mmm raspberry
15:23:16 * DogWomble blows a raspberry
15:24:49 * Halcyon reboots his Raspberry
15:25:33 <DogWomble> .me eats raspberry pie
15:26:08 <Ampera> I need monitors
15:29:03 <Ampera> fuck me, someone's trying to pawn off an iBook G4 for a hundred bucks on Craigslist
15:29:26 <Halcyon> $100 for an Apple product? Tell 'em they're dreamin'
15:29:35 <DogWomble> well i'm sure there will be one apple fanboi that will pay that
15:29:56 <Ampera> the going rate of one of those is a quickie behind a shed, not a hundred bucks
15:30:13 <DogWomble> should make them that offer ;P
15:31:47 <Ampera> illegal
15:31:57 <Ampera> 1. prostitution 2. statutory rape
15:33:03 * T3sl4 offers Ampera an undiscosed monetary benefi
15:33:04 <T3sl4> t
15:34:15 <Ampera> Oh this is perfect someone's selling 3 Dell monitors like the one I have for 10 bucks each
15:34:20 <Ampera> close too
15:35:24 <Halcyon> Nice
15:36:03 <Ampera> They look in good condition too.
15:40:24 <Halcyon> Those pretzel pieces taste weird
15:40:30 <Halcyon> Almost lemony/vinegary
15:40:47 <Ampera> I don't recall the flavours, but they are usually pretty good
15:40:51 <Ampera> if you don't like them, you can blame jspiros
15:40:56 <Halcyon> I think it was the buffalo one
15:41:18 <Halcyon> I shouldn't eat too much of this stuff in one day though, I'll feel sick
15:41:24 <Ampera> What have you tried so far though
15:41:44 <Halcyon> Those, the "hot" fries (which just taste like cheese) and the fruity candy
15:41:51 <Halcyon> I think my favourite of those is the orange/mango
15:42:30 <Halcyon> Althought the apple/kiwi is a close second
15:43:10 <Ampera> There are 8 flavours
15:43:55 <Halcyon> I haven't tried the others yet
15:44:22 <Halcyon> No sure how well the pineapple/coconut one will go
15:44:24 <Ampera> although you might not get them all because they sometimes don't put all of them in the same bar
15:45:29 <Ampera> but there's strawberry, raspberry, orange, lemon in the normal bars, and in the tropical there is coconut pineapple, mango orange, something passion fruit, and apple kiwi.
15:46:07 <Halcyon> Yeh the passionfruit one is nice too
15:46:39 <Halcyon> I like them because they are kind of subdued and not overly sugary
15:46:48 <Halcyon> Unlike something like Skittles which are just sickly
15:48:14 <Ampera> Yeah they are really nice, but they are actually German
15:48:20 <Halcyon> Nice
15:48:36 <Halcyon> I think I ate too much chilli jerky
15:48:40 <Halcyon> My mouth is burny
15:49:43 <Ampera> I didn't give you chilli jerky
15:49:58 <Halcyon> No, I bought some when I ordered your Kangaroo Jerky
15:50:07 <Ampera> Interesting.
15:52:32 <Halcyon> I also considered getting you Maple jerky
15:52:37 <Halcyon> Or Piri Piri
15:52:54 <Ampera> I love jerky
15:52:56 <Ampera> also what is piri piri
15:53:07 <Ampera> oh, a spicy pepper
15:53:11 <Ampera> I'd like that, but get whatever
15:53:14 <Halcyon> AKA Peri Peri
15:53:21 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_piri
15:53:44 <Halcyon> Quite commonly mixed with lemon and garlic
15:53:54 <Halcyon> It is delicious on BBQ'd chicken
15:55:40 <Halcyon> I can also get Emu Jerky
15:55:43 <Halcyon> Never had that though
15:56:15 <Ampera> if it's meat and it's jerky I'll end up liking it
15:56:55 <Halcyon> For someone who doesn't like their penis, you like jerked meats a whole lot
15:57:13 <Ampera> Don't get me wrong, I like penis, just not when it's permanently attached to me.
15:57:31 <Halcyon> So you like other people's penis?
15:58:06 <Ampera> yes
15:59:26 <Halcyon> Fair enough
16:40:45 * T3sl4 waves his cayenne at Ampera
16:40:58 <Ampera> penis :(
16:45:35 <T3sl4> mmm, curry
16:46:07 <Ampera> of what sort, T3sl4
16:46:27 <T3sl4> coconut milk and rice noodles, for the most part
16:46:59 <T3sl4> i'm sure you wouldn't like it, it's got filthy vegetables in it
16:47:16 <Ampera> and coconut, which I don't mind, but don't love either
16:47:27 <Ampera> probably more because for a few years my mom was everything coconut.
16:47:52 <Ampera> Coconut oil in your food, in your baking, on your body, even in your fucking bath.
16:48:10 <T3sl4> :/
16:59:01 <Ampera> The glory of having a website, I can put files on it for people to look at. So this is a list of all the different songs I listen to: http://amperaa.net/cdn/playlist.txt
16:59:08 <Ampera> this is my current 12 hour playlist.
17:02:38 <Halcyon> Oh nice Boney M
17:02:49 <Halcyon> You have some good songs on there :)
17:03:21 <Ampera> All of them are downloaded from YouTube, and are really nice quality.
17:03:24 <Halcyon> What about Wheatus?
17:03:25 <Halcyon> :P
17:04:12 <Ampera> Wheatus?
17:05:13 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3y9llDXuM
17:05:44 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSWBL-gdI8Q higher quality version
17:05:53 <Ampera> I'll listen to that after the song I'm listening to
17:06:30 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Sargon nails it. If you don't understand why then you are likely part of the current problem. How do we Parley with Silicon Valley? https://t.co/7ugp3K92cp
17:07:30 <Ampera> I wonder how much shit Dave's gonna get for daring to link a Sargon video with a picture of Alex Jones on the front.
17:07:57 <T3sl4> it'll generate clicks, sure
17:08:09 <T3sl4> clicks of the thumbsdown too
17:08:23 <Ampera> how do you thumbs down a tweet
17:09:01 <Halcyon> I listened to about 4 minutes of that guy and got bored
17:09:56 <Ampera> Wow that's an annoying voice, Halcyon
17:44:45 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Tried to nuke a ton of apps on my phone and now my keyboard seems to have vanished, only that stupid google tap to speak voice thing is available. I hate phones.
17:51:54 Join: Lartza ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
17:53:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Apparently Gboard is the android keyboard input, and I probably shouldn't have uninstalled that. Now I don't have a keyboard, and Tap To Speak doesn't actually work, so can't download the app...
17:59:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Ah, got it. Emailed myself the gboard app link. I'm clearly a smartphone BOSS
18:24:23 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
18:24:31 <Halcyon> Do you have a copy of Windows Server 2008 ?
18:48:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I "like" precisely one tweet, and it's this one https://t.co/7yT4tJRsGb
18:56:37 <Halcyon> Ampera, I tried Mike and Ikes
18:56:43 <Halcyon> The red ones taste like medicine
19:09:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Interesting new video coming shortly on PCB etching, but that's probably it for this week as the lab gets completely ripped up for the new carpet. Well, it'll be half'n'half, like a pizza, one half done on Tues, one half on Thurs. It'll be symmetrical bench stacking.
19:32:51 <steve30> o/
19:38:34 <steve30> I got a couple of hours sleep
19:49:56 <Halcyon> YAY
19:49:59 <Halcyon> What time is it?
19:50:04 <steve30> 0955
19:50:34 <Halcyon> Oh that's alright
19:51:26 <steve30> I need to go and sort out grandma's clocks. Might go back to bed when I get back.
19:52:37 <Halcyon> Alrighty
19:53:44 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap and yawns
19:55:08 <Halcyon> You can keep my junk warm :)
19:55:12 <Halcyon> It's starting to get cold here
20:01:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! PJ Masks Board game With Huxley https://t.co/mjNEF2IjZM
20:59:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1197 - DIY PCB Etching With Water https://t.co/d8QTZP5cIc
21:01:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Perhaps @thunderf00t knows a better method to concentrate ferric chloride? My magnet solution, whilst it works, is pretty crude. https://t.co/HIHZ1xssPw
22:34:14 * steve30 returns
22:34:19 <Halcyon> YAY!
22:34:44 <steve30> clocks are set and grass is cut
22:36:40 <Halcyon> I need to mow my lawn too
22:36:41 * steve30 wonders whether to have some food
22:36:49 <Halcyon> Do it!
22:44:04 <steve30> I'll just have coffee and biscuits
22:45:48 <steve30> My mum is back from her holiday today
22:48:35 <Halcyon> It's almost 2300 here, it's wine time for me
22:56:34 Quit: Bluenote ([email protected]) EOF from client
22:56:45 <steve30> I might try and go swimming this week
23:05:18 <Halcyon> Cute :)
23:14:50 <steve30> I guess I do look cute in speedos :)
23:16:52 <Halcyon> *grin*
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