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17:22:38 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tjaa?A-list-of-things-that-Ultimate-Intrique
17:22:44 <Avatar> clarifications for core rulebook stuff
17:22:57 <Avatar> basically if you don't own this book, then I guess these limitations don't apply !
18:50:48 <Steven1> they arent legal clarifications.
18:51:34 <Steven1> they are someone saying they havent known how to use common sense.
18:53:19 <Avatar> I don't get it, why put that in a book then
18:53:29 <Avatar> I mean that is not just a retort to someone's story
19:01:19 <Steven1> because in todays world you cant tell someone, I've charmed person. They act like MY best friend.
19:01:38 <Steven1> you have to have rules and other such shit to adjudicate how to act.
19:02:44 <Steven1> and people have to have something to point at and be like i cast charm person, he acts liket his not how you just said he acts.
19:06:27 <Avatar> so it's a GM tool
19:08:49 <Steven1> thats how i look at it.
19:08:57 <Steven1> there are a fuck ton of archetypes in it though
19:13:36 <Steven1> there are like 100 or so archetypes i think
19:56:01 <Mekkis> Steven1, "Today's world"?
19:56:20 <Steven1> sheeple
19:58:37 <Mekkis> like there aren't enough rules already
19:59:34 <Steven1> exactly
20:04:24 <Avatar> I can't wait to see what they say about bluffing impossible things
20:05:51 <Mekkis> give me an example of an "impossible thing" you'd try to bluff someone with
20:10:52 <Steven1> "The sky is blood red and shot through with neon green!" While standing outside, sky clearly visable.
20:38:21 <Mekkis> You'd be able to convince someone of that. The response would probably be something like "What does it mean?"
20:55:32 <Avatar> doesn't matter
20:55:46 <Avatar> the bluff rule has a specific thing for "impossible"
20:55:53 <Avatar> it's just a super high DC
20:56:24 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/bluff
20:56:28 <Avatar> -20
20:56:56 <Avatar> the d&d phb even gave a specific impossible example
21:44:16 <Mekkis> Avatar, indeed. As a GM, I'd probably ask Steven1 what his character was trying to do
21:45:58 <Mekkis> “I’ll bet you could use a cooling swim. A dip in that pool of acid would be refreshing.”
21:48:14 <Mekkis> What modifier would you give for that?
21:56:27 <Steven1> unless the creature is immune to acid... its going to be impossible. -20... even though I dont care how much a person would tells me it would be refreshing i wouldnt believe it.
22:01:05 <Mekkis> Steven1, according to the SRD, it's -50.
22:01:20 <Mekkis> ELH p39
22:14:46 <Steven1> ELD?
22:14:50 <Steven1> ELH even?
23:50:34 <Mekkis> D&D 3.0 Epic Level Handbook
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