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00:00:03 <GreekSnake> so if I were more extroverted, I could conquer the world
00:00:14 <ChangeMaker> you'll need to work on that
00:00:36 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/Lets.See.Best.Stuff.OnInternet/videos/1163092207088389/
00:00:47 <GreekSnake> are prairie dogs closely related to squirrels?
00:00:53 <GreekSnake> my bf showed me this, and thinks it's a squirrel
00:00:55 <GreekSnake> I told him it wasn't
00:01:55 <ChangeMaker> yes, they are related to squirrels
00:02:19 <ChangeMaker> FAMILY SCIURIDAE (squirrels, chipmunks, marmots, and prairie dogs)
00:02:22 <GreekSnake> ah yes
00:02:32 <GreekSnake> from the Greek skiouros
00:02:37 <GreekSnake> literally, "shadow-tail"
00:03:04 <ChangeMaker> which reminds me, early this morning I found a dead rat in my garage
00:03:19 <ChangeMaker> I had walked by the spot two hours before, and it wasn't there then
00:03:41 <ChangeMaker> it had been in the house for about a week, I spotted it occasionally and tried to chase it out
00:03:57 <ChangeMaker> it was often sleeping underneath my heater
00:04:17 <Warren1984> <GreekSnake> so if I were more extroverted, I could conquer the world <- yes
00:04:30 <ChangeMaker> I guess it died of old age, and wanted a warm spot while it died
00:05:52 <GreekSnake> Yeowie would've disposed of him much earlier
00:06:13 <ChangeMaker> yes
00:06:24 <ChangeMaker> wouldn't have lasted a minute
00:06:40 <ChangeMaker> when I did see him, he was hopping, and I wondered if he was actually a marsupial
00:07:26 <ChangeMaker> but I guess it was some sort of age related condition
00:08:27 <GreekSnake> he'd probably been eating leftover vegan pizza for months
00:09:36 <ChangeMaker> he only moved in about a week ago
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00:10:47 <ChangeMaker> I wonder when this Note 7 video starts
00:10:51 <ChangeMaker> hi Tim-Sim
00:12:50 <Tim-Sim> hi ChangeMaker
00:14:20 <GreekSnake> it starts in 45 minutes
00:14:27 <GreekSnake> my bf is staying up to watch it
00:14:35 <GreekSnake> he gets so excited about these launches
00:14:39 <ChangeMaker> are you abandoning Apple?
00:14:42 <GreekSnake> of course not
00:14:47 <GreekSnake> but he can dream
00:15:41 <ChangeMaker> I will watch it
00:15:55 <ChangeMaker> though I won't be buying a Note 7
00:17:04 <ChangeMaker> the Q9 takes care of all my portable gaming now
00:17:28 <Warren1984> it makes sense you need materials as weaponry to arm a military... but when it comes to raw brute power who would win in a war? Historically if Xerxes was an ENTJ who frequently pursued impressive achievements (i.e. Xerxes conquers all)... he could give men all the material possessions they desire, but if they disappointed him the consequences were brutal. As is evident in history.
00:17:28 <Warren1984> Xerxes not materialistic himself had the ability to destroy what power had created. ENTJ could be so ruthless to the point of destroying everything material possessions, everyone and even themselves.
00:18:31 <Warren1984> like hitler did
00:18:42 <Warren1984> Hitler eventually destroyed himself
00:19:09 <Warren1984> every war needs a powerful leader
00:19:14 <Warren1984> a ruthless leader
00:19:17 <ChangeMaker> is Merkel an ENTJ that destroys everything?
00:19:23 <Warren1984> I doubt it
00:19:38 <Warren1984> ENTJs are not dumb people either
00:19:47 <ChangeMaker> she is a trained scientist
00:19:47 Part: AgentOrange ([email protected]) from #politicaldebate
00:19:48 <Warren1984> they are academic, scientific
00:21:22 <ChangeMaker> which is part of the reason why I have little faith in scientists
00:22:08 <GreekSnake> <ChangeMaker> the Q9 takes care of all my portable gaming now
00:22:10 <GreekSnake> what's that?
00:22:36 <ChangeMaker> this contraption: http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_231067.html
00:23:00 <GreekSnake> can you play Pokémon Go on it?
00:23:13 <ChangeMaker> I haven't tried yet
00:23:50 <GreekSnake> it's Android, but I suppose you can't catch Pokémons if you're out and about and it needs a wifi connection
00:24:02 <xmm> A girl told me the back of my hand is like a bear's paw. Does that make you twitch greeksnake? I think she meant for an asian
00:24:22 <ChangeMaker> I could catch Pokemon around the house
00:24:51 <Warren1984> ChangeMaker -> Xerxes has these characteristics
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00:25:18 <xmm> What sort of scientist is mrrkel
00:25:21 <Warren`984> Very efficient. ENTJ personalities loathe inefficiency, irrationality and laziness, seeking to root out such behavior wherever they go. People with this personality type are ruthless when it comes to analyzing the usefulness of methods or ideas. They could not care less if that idea is popular or supported by an authority figure – if the ENTJ believes that it does not make sense,
00:25:21 <Warren`984> only overwhelming rational arguments will convince them otherwise. This strength makes them efficient and impartial decision-makers, often at a very young age. ENTJs also tend to be quite resistant to conflicts, usually remaining rational and calm in an emotionally charged situation.
00:25:21 <Warren`984> · Strong-willed. ENTJs tend to be very determined individuals, who rarely give up and abandon their vision, regardless of the opposition.
00:25:46 <ChangeMaker> renee said that she experienced a GPS bug, and 40 pokemon turned up right in her room, so she caught them all
00:25:59 <Warren`984> High self-confidence. ENTJ personalities trust in their abilities and do not hesitate to tell other people what they think. They are confident being in the center of attention and rarely doubt themselves or care much about their perceived social roles, expectations etc. This exudes confidence and reinforces the ENTJ’s self-esteem even further.
00:26:00 <Warren`984> · Quick and versatile mind. ENTJs are very good at improving their knowledge of (often diverse) topics and fields that interest them. People with this personality type take pleasure in tackling intellectual challenges and their natural curiosity pushes them forward as well.
00:26:00 <Warren`984> · Strategic thinkers. ENTJs have no difficulties making long-term plans and approaching problems from several different angles.
00:26:11 <GreekSnake> http://www.amerika.org/politics/what-draws-me-to-the-far-right/
00:26:28 <GreekSnake> <xmm> A girl told me the back of my hand is like a bear's paw. Does that make you twitch greeksnake? I think she meant for an asian
00:26:32 <GreekSnake> are you one of those hairy pinoys, xm?
00:27:25 <xmm> Dont think so
00:27:31 <GreekSnake> http://www.amerika.org/wp-content/uploads/evolution_inverted.jpg
00:27:36 <ChangeMaker> middle easterners seem to be the hairiest, some lebs are literally bears
00:27:46 <Warren`984> a bear's paw
00:27:51 <Warren`984> what does that mean?
00:28:34 <xmm> Hairy back hand
00:28:42 <GreekSnake> The West has a habit of blaming itself for the suffering it sees throughout the third world, out of fear of the more troublesome reality that the biggest burden that has befallen the third world is its own people. It can’t be hard to puncture through this myth for anyone who doesn’t wish to close his eyes to what he sees. The third world creates its own suffering.
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00:29:05 <xmm> I feel like snacking
00:30:13 <GreekSnake> This is what characterizes the third world: A perpetually expanding cycle of cruelty and violence to which there seems to be no end. The people there have nothing that could enrich Western civilization, no habits, inventions or philosophies that we are missing out on. There is no deeper meaning their suffering serves, no lesson they could learn from it, no spiritual growth that could
00:30:13 <GreekSnake> emerge from it. There is nothing they have to deliver, except for the frightening prospect that they might one day succeed at dragging the rest of the world down to their mode of existence.
00:30:17 <ChangeMaker> yep, third worlders are the authors of their own misery, it has nothing to do with colonialism, oil companies, Israel, etc.
00:30:45 <GreekSnake> that last sentence is on point
00:30:54 <GreekSnake> and the best argument against mud immigration, in my view
00:31:19 <ChangeMaker> yes, rather than being culturally enriching, they are low brow philistines of the basest sort
00:31:38 <GreekSnake> it's not that we're too cruel to help them, it's that there will be no one left to help them when they take over the West and annex it to the Third World
00:32:35 <GreekSnake> in order to have a Western civilization at all, don't you need to have a Western population at its core?
00:33:03 <Warren`984> xm when are we going to play SC 2?
00:33:54 <GreekSnake> I mean it's perfectly fine to have an xm or two here and there, but imagine what would happen if you imported his entire village
00:34:36 <ChangeMaker> PC types often subscribe to the magic dirt theory (seriously elaborated by Jared Diamond) where the west only advanced due to fortuitous happenstance of geography
00:36:11 <ChangeMaker> or zoology, such as he argues that Europe was fortunate enough to have horses, while Africa did not, then makes a ridiculous argument that zebras are not domesticable the way that the original wild horses were
00:36:58 <ChangeMaker> even though zebras have been trained in circuses, trained to pull wagons, etc., only a single generation removed from the wild
00:37:05 <GreekSnake> lol
00:37:29 <xm> i just got out of bed to make cheesy toast with tomatoes
00:37:31 <GreekSnake> the Bedouins tamed horses ages ago, and have yet to produce anything but a nomadic lifestyle
00:37:38 <xm> and then i had starburst babies (yum)
00:38:03 <ChangeMaker> but where he ultimately leads this to is the usual all people are equal argument, so you can transplant an african into the west, with no downsides
00:38:12 <xm> Warren`984: i was waiting for you the other night to play SC II. i waited until the wax in the candle melted away to the bottom
00:38:28 <xm> it was supposed to be me and you but you did a no show
00:39:59 <GreekSnake> it's annoying that xm is so assimilated that he never takes the bait
00:40:11 <GreekSnake> we need an angry person of color to toy with here
00:40:20 <xm> i also keep forgetting im Asian
00:40:24 <GreekSnake> lol
00:40:26 <GreekSnake> you're such a banana
00:40:38 <ChangeMaker> that angry jew hasn't come back
00:40:53 <GreekSnake> yes, lefty Jews are often the angriest for some reason
00:41:05 <xm> like taht screaming gay Jew jogger
00:41:22 <GreekSnake> despite the Jews being the group most threatened by Third World muds
00:41:48 <ChangeMaker> I wasn't quite sure that he was a leftist, since he conceded low negro IQ, more a sort of blind ethnocentrist
00:42:48 <GreekSnake> Doug posted a good rant under that article
00:43:08 <GreekSnake> The rise of the Alternate-Right has benefitted greatly from the rise of the Donald and the Great Fuck You of the dirt people.
00:43:18 <ChangeMaker> Douglas Murray wrote the above?
00:44:22 <GreekSnake> no, another Doug
00:44:26 <GreekSnake> in the comments section
00:44:30 <ChangeMaker> ah ok
00:44:46 <GreekSnake> http://www.amerika.org/politics/what-draws-me-to-the-far-right/
00:44:51 <GreekSnake> comment number 8, down the bottom
00:45:14 <GreekSnake> I doubt Douglas Murray would identify with the alt-right, though there is some overlap
00:45:24 <GreekSnake> he opposes Trump, for example
00:47:50 <ChangeMaker> he does? why?
00:48:24 <GreekSnake> not intellectual enough for his tastes
00:48:43 <GreekSnake> which is a fair observation of Trump, but misses the point entirely
00:49:08 <ChangeMaker> it does
00:49:09 <GreekSnake> we don't have the luxury of waiting around for a nationalist intellectual to come along and save us
00:49:29 <GreekSnake> and even if he did, he wouldn't pull in the crowds like Daddy does
00:49:58 <GreekSnake> intellectuals can advise Daddy behind the scenes
00:50:16 <ChangeMaker> also the left almost constantly make their appeal on sentimental, emotional grounds, since they have no real intellectuals, so you need something to counter them on this level
00:51:45 <ChangeMaker> the left are at their most entertaining when they strike an intellectual pose, they're more effective when they're just crying
00:53:23 <ChangeMaker> Trump doesn't need to theorise in public, his job is to persuade and sell
00:54:39 <Warren`984> xm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw_AXwdYzKg
00:54:43 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar (Nalin & Kane Remix) (Jun 18, 2010) Length: 9:42 - Category: Music - 3,391,309 views views - 10,483 likes (97.8%), 236 dislikes (2.2%)
00:54:54 Nick: Warren`984 is now known as Warren1984
00:58:03 <ChangeMaker> http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/events/unpacked/ starting, I think
00:58:29 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCpVkeW40pI
00:58:33 <GreekSnake> this is the Samsung live stream
00:58:34 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Samsung Galaxy Unpacked 2016 (Date not found) Length: 0:00 - Category: Science & Technology - - likes dislikes
00:59:38 <ChangeMaker> hopefully it'll work better than the Samsung site
01:00:06 <ChangeMaker> it's just music now for you?
01:00:41 <GreekSnake> yes
01:00:45 <GreekSnake> and a lot of buffering
01:01:17 Quit: doctor ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
01:01:43 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8C53Chk3cY
01:01:47 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Samsung Galaxy Unpacked 2016 (360 version) (Date not found) Length: 0:00 - Category: Science & Technology - - likes dislikes
01:02:37 <ChangeMaker> I'll just watch the normal version
01:04:13 <ChangeMaker> here we go
01:04:24 <ChangeMaker> lol
01:04:29 <ChangeMaker> they just lost me as a customer
01:04:54 <GreekSnake> LOL
01:05:08 <GreekSnake> one world, one anthem?
01:05:27 <ChangeMaker> yes
01:05:42 <GreekSnake> there are obviously no Koreans working in their marketing department
01:06:03 <GreekSnake> only a Western leftist could come up with this shit
01:06:06 <Warren1984> GreekSnake how can I get rid of unpleasant thoughts
01:06:15 <ChangeMaker> George Crooney
01:06:27 <GreekSnake> distract yourself with more pleasant ones, Warren1984
01:06:52 <Warren1984> yeah but I am attacked from the unconscious with a primitive extraverted feeling function
01:07:13 <ChangeMaker> cerebration
01:07:19 <Warren1984> but isn't that escaping reality
01:08:02 <ChangeMaker> why don't they get a professional presenter to do this?
01:08:07 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/Asssyrian/videos/592962530877428/
01:08:13 <GreekSnake> "welcome rapefugees"
01:08:17 <GreekSnake> this is in Germany, my bf tells me
01:08:37 <GreekSnake> Warren1984, escaping reality is essential to maintaining mental health
01:09:07 <Warren1984> doesn't it just come back and rape you though GreekSnake
01:09:29 <Warren1984> for example if you forget time
01:09:36 <Warren1984> then consequences occur
01:09:47 <GreekSnake> what kind of consequences?
01:10:00 <Warren1984> well lets say brushing teeth is important
01:10:13 <Warren1984> but you distract yourself with something less boring
01:10:30 <ChangeMaker> so I guess Samsung are a major Orympic Games sponsor
01:10:33 <Warren1984> it's to escape the feeling of an unpleasant reality
01:11:31 <GreekSnake> just brush your teeth, Warren1984
01:11:50 <GreekSnake> I thought you were talking about less trivial, more serious things
01:14:23 <GreekSnake> I'd forgotten just how unwatchable these Samsung events are
01:14:43 <ChangeMaker> it sure is, it's absolutely terrible
01:15:05 <ChangeMaker> absorutery!
01:15:08 <GreekSnake> heh
01:15:30 <Tim-Sim> ChangeMaker: Douglas Murray wrote what?
01:15:51 <ChangeMaker> Tim-Sim, no, I thought it was, but it was someone else
01:16:54 <GreekSnake> when's George Crooney coming on?
01:16:57 <Tim-Sim> ChangeMaker: Were you talking about the paragraphs regarding the West not being responsible for the quagmire of shit that is the 3rd world?
01:17:14 <ChangeMaker> I don't know, he mentioned Crooney, but I'm not sure what the context was
01:17:25 <ChangeMaker> Tim-Sim, yes. not by Douglas Murray
01:17:33 <Warren1984> GreekSnake how do I stop my imagination
01:17:40 <Warren1984> and focus on reality instead?
01:17:45 <GreekSnake> why would you want to stop it?
01:17:58 <Warren1984> because imagination causes nihlistic thoughts
01:18:55 <ChangeMaker> incidentally Warren1984 has the new Galaxy 7
01:19:26 <GreekSnake> is that true, Warren1984?
01:19:45 <GreekSnake> that's probably why you've been having such negative thoughts
01:19:50 <GreekSnake> get an iPhone, and all will be solved
01:20:06 <Tim-Sim> I googled the paragraph and found this page http://www.amerika.org/politics/what-draws-me-to-the-far-right/ authored by a Darryl Withycombe
01:20:56 <Tim-Sim> I reposted the paragrpahs to another channel and the first comment was that I am racist...
01:21:20 <Tim-Sim> then the next comment was that the West had a better starting position
01:21:37 Nick: zutara is now known as halcyon
01:21:41 <ChangeMaker> and after all this time the third world is still at the starting line
01:21:42 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/groups/GOODideasVsBADideas/permalink/1585897125044840/?pnref=story
01:21:47 <GreekSnake> this is where I first saw it, Tim-Sim
01:21:57 Nick: halcyon is now known as zutara
01:22:09 <Tim-Sim> and that the West is responsible for the suffering in the 3rd world due to slave labour, sweat shops and global warming
01:22:17 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/american.new.right
01:22:30 <ChangeMaker> usually colonialism and Israel gets a mention too
01:22:52 <ChangeMaker> the video just crashed for me
01:22:55 <Tim-Sim> That will be the guilt trip for the next 100 years, the West caused global warming
01:23:06 <GreekSnake> actually, Western-owned sweat shops have raised millions out of poverty
01:23:31 <GreekSnake> though I agree they shouldn't exist either, bring the jobs back home as Daddy says
01:23:33 <ChangeMaker> ironically global warming is rather like the juju evil spirits that Africans believe in
01:23:34 <Tim-Sim> Yes GreekSnake. It has raised the living standards of China.
01:23:55 <Warren1984> GreekSnake so if I was to distract myself on more pleasant things I would need to focus on placing more importance on doing rather than thinking, right?
01:24:16 <GreekSnake> you could try that, Warren1984
01:24:24 <ChangeMaker> Trump will take all those terrible industries back off them, so they can once again live their sustainable lifestyles while communing with nature
01:24:27 <Tim-Sim> It is generally other chinese/bengalese that exploit there citizens.
01:24:36 <GreekSnake> Warren1984, why don't you just get a boyfriend?
01:24:49 <GreekSnake> they're much easier to get than girlfriends, and you'll have plenty to distract your mind
01:24:54 <Warren1984> I would prefer a girlfriend
01:25:13 <GreekSnake> yes, but girlfriends are extremely difficult to attain for someone on D$P
01:25:26 <GreekSnake> women are materialistic whores, while men will care more for you big African dick
01:25:28 <ChangeMaker> doctor might ask you out on a date
01:25:30 <Warren1984> If I am forgetful, what activities can I do?
01:25:52 <Warren1984> there are lots of activities out there but I am forgetful
01:26:07 <Warren1984> forgetful of playing SC 2 with xm
01:26:13 <Warren1984> yesterday
01:26:18 <ChangeMaker> girlfriends are difficult to maintain for someone with a high income too
01:26:43 <ChangeMaker> no matter what your income, she thinks she can do better. go girl!
01:26:51 <GreekSnake> yes
01:26:51 <GreekSnake> lol
01:26:57 <GreekSnake> seriously, I don't know why you guys even bother
01:27:23 <Warren1984> I am forgetful about the fact that I emphasize thinking over doing
01:27:47 <breaker> GreekSnake, How many inches have you taken in the arse?
01:27:55 <GreekSnake> hmmm
01:28:04 <GreekSnake> around 8, why?
01:28:19 <Warren1984> GreekSnake Tigger_ got a spice grinder, to spice up his sex life with Bianka
01:28:29 <GreekSnake> I've never had any huge cocks, but a few were above average
01:28:54 <breaker> Big loads?
01:29:04 <GreekSnake> yeah, sometimes
01:29:15 <GreekSnake> I love a palpable load
01:29:18 <Warren1984> GreekSnake why not use tigger's spice grinder to grind chilli
01:29:23 <Warren1984> and snort it
01:29:59 <GreekSnake> I hate chilli
01:30:19 <ChangeMaker> the Chrome flash player barely works since I upgraded to Win10, it has crashed and is staying crashed
01:30:25 <GreekSnake> a lot of this Third World food shoved down our throats is pretty crap
01:30:46 <GreekSnake> it's meant to be the best thing about multiculturalism, but it's still shit
01:31:17 <ChangeMaker> that reminds me, I still haven't tried quinoa, and it is already passed its fashion use-by date
01:31:28 <GreekSnake> lol
01:31:29 <GreekSnake> don't bother
01:31:54 <GreekSnake> Patsy put some in the vegan fried rice she made me
01:32:02 <ChangeMaker> what was it like?
01:32:10 <GreekSnake> it felt like munching on gravel
01:32:35 <ChangeMaker> then I've heard enough
01:33:22 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10154494128271336/
01:33:28 <GreekSnake> this is a far more important live event
01:33:41 <ChangeMaker> it actually not tasting that nice probably gives it a few extra hipster status points
01:34:25 <ChangeMaker> Donald Trump will 1. build a wall, and 2. make HTML5 streaming great again
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01:35:02 <GreekSnake> heh
01:35:15 <GreekSnake> and he'll banish Flash player to Mexico
01:35:27 <ChangeMaker> yes, along with cyclists, feminists, and vapers
01:36:50 <GreekSnake> cuck-libertarian stoners too, hopefully
01:36:55 <GreekSnake> cucktarians?
01:38:52 <ChangeMaker> libertardians
01:39:27 <GreekSnake> lol
01:40:31 <ChangeMaker> the US Libertardian party has a truly deranged leader this election, Gary Johnson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COItiKtHWyg
01:40:35 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Should a Jewish Baker Be Forced to Bake a Nazi Cake? (Apr 28, 2016) Length: 1:41 - Category: News & Politics - 16,399 views views - 166 likes (88.8%), 21 dislikes (11.2%)
01:40:59 <GreekSnake> William Rentz2 months ago
01:40:59 <GreekSnake> What if the Jewish baker is gay and the Nazi is a druid tranny and wants to use his unisex bathroom on the Sabbath when it coincides with Kristalnacht?
01:41:45 <ChangeMaker> clearly the state must intervene
01:42:11 <ChangeMaker> Gary Johnson has one of those low-T faces too
01:42:46 <circle> gary johnson is an odd bloke
01:42:50 <circle> i'd still vote for him if i was in the us
01:42:52 <circle> but he's no ron paul
01:42:56 <circle> a very mediocre man
01:43:50 <ChangeMaker> another libertardian, making a powerful statement about the constitution, or something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d45x4OpMoow
01:43:55 <BlackDevil> Youtube: James Weeks Strips at Libertarian Party National Convention Drops out of race for Chairman 5/29/16 (May 29, 2016) Length: 3:57 - Category: News & Politics - 228,572 views views - 541 likes (66.4%), 274 dislikes (33.6%)
01:46:00 <circle> ad hominem
01:46:46 <ChangeMaker> probably a bit too much medical marijuana that day
01:48:31 <circle> cannabis doesn't have those effects
01:48:42 <ChangeMaker> the Cuck Review rarely has good articles these days, but this one on Gary Johnson is worth reading:
01:48:43 <ChangeMaker> When Johnson took the tiller in New Mexico in 1995, the budget stood at $4.397 billion. When he left in 2003, it had grown to $7.721 billion, an increase of 7.29 percent a year. Of the eleven governors who filed to run for president this year (two Democrats, Johnson, and eight Republicans), only one had a worse record on spending growth.
01:48:44 <ChangeMaker> Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435704/gary-johnson-libertarian-party-2016-conservatives
01:50:36 <circle> the cuck review?
01:50:41 <circle> tigger, you need to take a step back
01:50:44 <circle> a real step back
01:50:46 <GreekSnake> https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/996b90f47a70e6f6a785669f9504864b22c3ec54/0_0_4005_2403/master/4005.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=9f404b28e424d8e289ee83f1f3d72444
01:50:56 <circle> the national review is a genuinely good publication
01:51:31 <circle> they don't like trump because he is a democrat, who donates to hillary clinton, supports gun control, eats well done steaks, eats KFC with a knife and fork and has an ugly daughter who married a jew
01:51:47 <GreekSnake> William F. Buckley, Jr., the founder of the National Reviewer, was a sophisticated right-wing intellectual, but still rather ineffective against Gore Vidal
01:51:55 <GreekSnake> *Review
01:51:56 <ChangeMaker> the National Review used to be good before it purged all its sensible racists
01:52:42 <GreekSnake> that documentary posted here the other day was quite good
01:54:06 <ChangeMaker> if Gore Vidal was alive today he'd have different affiliations
01:55:47 <ChangeMaker> the National Review is very cucky, desperately hoping that leftists respect them (so quixotic), hence why John Derbyshire had to be purged for writing truthfully about blacks
01:58:45 <circle> http://www.thelocal.se/galleries/nightlife/people-watching-july-27th-2016
01:58:57 <circle> swedish women are incredibly beautiful, even these lower class trashy ones
01:59:03 <circle> in australia those same girls would be 2/10s
01:59:15 <circle> (if you've ever seen a photo of girls in a trashy nightclub)
02:00:57 <ChangeMaker> Sweden's problem isn't that the girls are effeminate, but that the men are too
02:01:05 <circle> yes, true
02:02:31 <ChangeMaker> such as Sweden's most famous modern author of torture porn novels, the communist Stieg Larsson, looking like an elderly lesbian academic: http://www.eljurista.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Stieg-Larsson.jpg
02:04:06 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/digitaltrendsftw/videos/10154411123366133/
02:04:43 <ChangeMaker> I saw the film of The Girl With the Dragon tattoo, and learned the main thing you need to worry about in Sweden is being raped by billionaire Christian neo-nazis
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02:06:41 <GreekSnake> lol
02:14:12 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/digitaltrendsftw/videos/10154411123366133/
02:16:19 <ChangeMaker> it is fast
02:17:18 <GreekSnake> time to upgrade from your Note 2?
02:18:30 <ChangeMaker> no
02:18:46 <ChangeMaker> gaming is the only thing I want CPU/GPU power for, and now I have my Q9
02:18:54 <circle> i will get a new smartphone early next year
02:19:12 <circle> samsung are back in the game
02:19:17 <circle> people are realising apple is a false god
02:19:20 <circle> which is good
02:19:35 <ChangeMaker> Apple just don't innovate anymore
02:19:41 <circle> true
02:19:44 <circle> http://www.thelocal.se/userdata/galleries/4832/cafeopera3.jpg
02:20:11 <ChangeMaker> the only new product since Steve Jobs died is the Apple Watch, that everyone has forgotten about now
02:20:12 <circle> that boy is a pathetic specimen
02:20:16 <circle> yeh the watch is dead
02:20:21 <circle> they are looking into the apple car now
02:20:46 <Tim-Sim> I was oging to buy a galaxy S5 last week, then saw the S5 mini, then ummed and ahhed about it, put it off. Too indecisive, couldn't make a clear decision
02:21:24 <ChangeMaker> why not the S7?
02:26:06 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.71/posts/10154388240901171
02:27:03 <ChangeMaker> In these reports from German TV, multiple socialist, left-wing women tell of their being raped by so-called "refugees." Rather than report their crimes, they felt compelled to cover them up and lie and claim native Germans were involved too.
02:27:10 <ChangeMaker> 1. they deserved it
02:27:16 <ChangeMaker> 2. who says rape isn't funny?
02:28:03 <ChangeMaker> if a female leftist wants a vision of the future, imagine a brown penis slapping her face, forever
02:31:15 <ChangeMaker> just looking at the prices of phones of late, the crash in the AU$ sure has changed things
02:31:25 <ChangeMaker> I got the Galaxy Note 2 for $500
02:32:09 <ChangeMaker> the Galaxy Note 5 is $950
02:34:00 <ChangeMaker> at Kogan $750, not so bad
02:40:33 <GreekSnake> does it have that hideous Kogan branding stamped on it too?
02:41:42 <ChangeMaker> no Kogan branding
02:42:04 <GreekSnake> Joey Konopinski If Hillary and Obama were both teetering off the edge of a cliff and you could only save one of them, where would you go for lunch?
02:42:28 <ChangeMaker> lol
02:42:39 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/posts/10154494166196336
02:42:55 <GreekSnake> this mural in Melbourne has made global headlines
02:43:19 <GreekSnake> Mike Doty I love it! She is a puppet for the Saudis, might as well look the part!
02:46:36 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157422799195725
02:47:07 <GreekSnake> nice to see Daddy not toning down the Islamophobia despite the "backlash"
02:48:27 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/skynews/videos/1414614758553117/
02:48:42 <ChangeMaker> his wingman Roger Stone went on the attack against the constitution waving Khan, pointing out that he's actually an advocate of Sharia law, and runs an immigration legal service to bring more muslims in
02:49:33 <ChangeMaker> I love sinkholes
02:49:40 <GreekSnake> scary
02:51:11 <Tim-Sim> S7 is too big and expensive to be lugging around everywhere
02:51:29 <ChangeMaker> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-02/ipswich-sinkhole-swallows-backyard-west-of-brisbane/7682332
02:52:09 <Tim-Sim> And I don't need a 4k resolution on a phone
02:52:14 <GreekSnake> it's probably HAARP, trying to get Pauline Hanson
02:52:42 <Tim-Sim> lol, heard that on the radio this evening, ChangeMaker, gave me a chuckle
02:53:34 <Tim-Sim> lol at Pauline, just in general
02:56:15 <Tim-Sim> I wanted to get a HTC Vive virtual reality headset, then I started seeing some of the reviews that the 4k displays in them are not good enough, looks like we are going to need at least a 4k screen per eye in the virtual reality headsets to past pixelation and fly-screen-door effect
02:59:18 <ChangeMaker> ah yes, I think it's too early to get into VR just now, anyone who does is essentially a beta tester
03:07:07 <ChangeMaker> I'm quite interested in the sociological effects of VR, such as if real tourism takes a hit from VR tourism
03:09:33 <Tim-Sim> oh yeah, it will be a game changer (methinks)
03:10:07 <Tim-Sim> there will be a therapeutic market there too
03:10:56 <Tim-Sim> and tool for psychologists etc., enhance education
03:11:32 <ChangeMaker> and the dark side, such as people losing themselves in VR forever
03:11:45 <Tim-Sim> I'll put my hand up for that!
03:11:53 <Tim-Sim> Soon as I get one, I'm gone.
03:11:57 <ChangeMaker> heh
03:12:17 <Tim-Sim> Lawnmower Man
03:12:25 <ChangeMaker> I've never seen that
03:14:48 <Tim-Sim> it is a bit dated and b grade for these days. ok for reminiscing though
03:15:27 <Tim-Sim> when it was first released the CGI was ground breaking
03:18:35 <ChangeMaker> I can imagine a not too distant future of superabundance of goods leading to mass unemployment, and the people actually encouraged to spend their life in VR, as it's cheaper for the govt to provide services there than in the real world
03:20:55 <Tim-Sim> hmm
03:21:32 <Tim-Sim> THe US recently had a barney over China releasing a heap of cheap goods onto the market.
03:22:07 <Tim-Sim> Imagine the VR Police
03:22:40 <ChangeMaker> ironically died of AIDS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O92981dskK4
03:22:43 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Gil-Scott Heron - The Subject Was Faggots (1970) (Oct 17, 2010) Length: - Category: Music - 15,314 views views - 97 likes (65.5%), 51 dislikes (34.5%)
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08:09:13 <ypcr> looks like the english are muslim now
08:10:26 <ypcr> amusing
08:12:07 <ypcr> george bushes daughter converted
08:12:40 <ypcr> which doesnt surprise me cause shes got mashed potato brains by now
08:13:00 <ypcr> just another puppet for the nwo
08:14:53 <ypcr> muslims are the pawns
08:15:41 <ypcr> when civil war kicks off...which it will sooner or later...
08:15:50 <ypcr> out comes the military and bam
08:16:18 <ypcr> shocking
08:18:43 <ypcr> i mean...muslims havent even invented the fork yet
08:19:20 <ypcr> let alone use one
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10:19:51 <Warren1984> hi all
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10:43:20 <Arbition> <ChangeMaker> and the dark side, such as people losing themselves in VR forever
10:43:26 <Arbition> People already do that with video games
10:43:28 <Arbition> and drugs
10:44:08 <Warren1984> what is VR?
10:44:13 <Arbition> Virtual Reality
10:45:33 <Warren1984> Arbition is it a good trait to be very efficient?
10:45:49 <Arbition> The question is ill concieved
10:46:02 <Arbition> define efficientcy in the context of a human trait
10:46:13 <Warren1984> big picture, details and how fast
10:46:56 <Arbition> That pretty much says "How can I solve everything" ignoring that time is a finite resource. Thus my comment about it being ill concieved
10:47:03 <Warren1984> Very efficient. ENTJ personalities loathe inefficiency, irrationality and laziness, seeking to root out such behavior wherever they go. People with this personality type are ruthless when it comes to analyzing the usefulness of methods or ideas. They could not care less if that idea is popular or supported by an authority figure – if the ENTJ believes that it does not make sense,
10:47:03 <Warren1984> only overwhelming rational arguments will convince them otherwise. This strength makes them efficient and impartial decision-makers, often at a very young age. ENTJs also tend to be quite resistant to conflicts, usually remaining rational and calm in an emotionally charged situation.
10:47:43 <Arbition> oh myers briggs
10:47:46 <Arbition> I have no further comments
10:48:10 <Warren1984> Arbition I don't know if you read what I wrote yesterday
10:48:56 <Warren1984> the Persian army was the biggest in recorded history
10:49:45 <Warren1984> consumed more percentage of the Earth's population than any other military in history
10:50:16 <Warren1984> Xerxes controlled people, because their weakness was material possessions
10:50:43 <Warren1984> when he was unsatisfied he would brutally destroy some of his army
10:51:06 <Warren1984> this is what makes ENTJs dangerous people
10:51:33 <Warren1984> because they are not materialistic themselves, they can use their power over those who are materialistic
10:51:55 <Warren1984> u still following what I am saying Arbition
10:52:49 <Arbition> No, I stopped paying attention when you mentioned a myers briggs thing
10:53:04 <Warren1984> Arbition why do you think myer briggs is bad?
10:53:29 <Arbition> I think you trying to relate everything to myers briggs is bad, not that myers briggs is bad
10:53:33 <Warren1984> for thousands of years philosphers have made judgement about peoples behaviour
10:53:50 <Warren1984> but it's my way of understanding the world
10:54:17 <Arbition> Well so be it, but I'm unwilling to engage in any discussion with such an inflexible intellectual basis
10:54:25 <Warren1984> how can you see the bigger picture and understand others, without Myer Briggs
10:54:50 <Warren1984> Arbition put it this way, everyone is a combination of more than 1
10:55:01 <Warren1984> however we all have a temperment
10:55:09 <Warren1984> that never changes
10:55:25 <Warren1984> personality is a combination of both temperment and life experience
10:56:36 <Warren1984> for example my Mum's house is really messy and my Mum can be lazy... it may seem she has symptoms of ADD.... but that is not true because she has held down employment in the same field for her entire life
10:57:47 <Warren1984> doesn't having a combination of more than 1 create flexibility?
10:59:19 <Warren1984> yes/no?
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11:03:50 <loltraktor> piss
11:03:52 <loltraktor> u here
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11:04:11 <loltraktor> pisSssssSsssSsss
11:04:18 <loltraktor> u around buddy??
11:05:22 <Glenn> Not in the last couple of days. He enjoyed "assisted departure".
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11:06:17 <loltraktor> hrrmmz
11:07:10 <loltraktor> did lumeah jennifur amelia sharni serenity faux or bassbabe`85 have anything to do with this?¿?¿
11:07:26 <loltraktor> or did yews give him a rest
11:08:43 <loltraktor> perhaps hes in the naughty corner
11:08:59 <loltraktor> wonder if he cried himself to sleep lastnight .__.
11:11:54 <loltraktor> piss smokes his fingernails
11:12:26 <loltraktor> he has a theaory the weed he smoked 3 days ago will somehow be absorbed into his fingernails, so he smokes them.
11:15:08 <loltraktor> theory
11:15:09 <loltraktor> perhaps
11:16:25 <loltraktor> most of my mates have assault police charges on their rap sheet thats why i got done with the shit
11:16:45 <loltraktor> saved some more severe things to happen
11:16:53 <loltraktor> if that makes sense. -,,-
11:17:28 <loltraktor> u guys know im going to prison for 10 years?
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14:05:22 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTgtFnY0Lw
14:05:26 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tiesto - Traffic (Original Mix) (Nov 28, 2012) Length: 6:59 - Category: Music - 3,874,410 views views - 12,092 likes (96.8%), 406 dislikes (3.2%)
14:06:00 <Tigger_> what is Fudge Packer's favourite song?
14:06:45 <Warren1984> the one I just posted
14:11:21 <Warren1984> have you heard this one before?
14:12:19 <Warren1984> start from here if you want -> https://youtu.be/wXTgtFnY0Lw?t=170
14:12:23 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tiesto - Traffic (Original Mix) (Nov 28, 2012) Length: 6:59 - Category: Music - 3,874,899 views views - 12,092 likes (96.8%), 406 dislikes (3.2%)
14:12:32 <Tigger_> yes, I know it
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14:24:43 <Warren1984> Tigger_ the problem with SOPs is they are inefficient
14:26:55 <Tigger_> video SOPs are quite efficient
14:30:52 <Warren1984> SOPs are for detailed routine tasks
14:41:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3TKv7Chk4
14:41:25 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Kim Wilde - Cambodia (1981) HD 0815007 (Aug 11, 2010) Length: 3:42 - Category: Music - 22,826,521 views views - 54,858 likes (97.6%), 1,368 dislikes (2.4%)
14:45:17 <Warren1984> another of Tigger_'s favourite -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGAVwQAmAHs
14:45:21 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Alphaville - Forever Young ~Official Video (Nov 26, 2011) Length: 3:41 - Category: Music - 10,512,769 views views - 45,490 likes (97.9%), 990 dislikes (2.1%)
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15:39:40 <kunz> dickhead didnt know the door was open the whole time
15:39:44 <kunz> gold that one
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16:45:56 <JellyJohn> aaaaaaaaaahahahhahahahahaah
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17:58:44 <snowgoon> MatthewRobertson
17:58:46 <snowgoon> zat u robbo
18:00:54 <snowgoon> MatthewRobertson
18:00:55 <snowgoon> zat u robbo
18:01:10 * snowgoon beautifies MatthewRobertson with some knuckle duster imprints
18:07:37 <MatthewRobertson> LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
18:07:50 <MatthewRobertson> Where is PisSsSsSss
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18:14:04 <thefiddler> lolz
18:14:08 <thefiddler> i was looking for him this morning
18:14:24 <thefiddler> was trying to find out if he cried himself to sleep lastnight again... :l
18:15:33 <MatthewRobertson> LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
18:18:06 <thefiddler> aaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
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18:58:13 <Trem> Ne humans alive
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19:00:40 <Trem> anybody that gives a shit about normal
19:01:00 <Trem> want to talk
19:01:05 <MatthewRobertson> Hi Trem
19:04:32 <Trem> I have had in my arms
19:04:47 <Trem> what dreams are made of
19:08:03 <Trem> not my fault life amazes me
19:14:33 <thefiddler> christoph
19:14:38 <Trem> I got two boxes cat food
19:14:43 <thefiddler> nyce
19:14:53 <thefiddler> u going 2 eat it?
19:15:08 <Trem> no it's for sockZ
19:15:46 <thefiddler> o ok
19:15:47 <Trem> I cans suffer but my cat has to eat
19:16:02 <thefiddler> heheh
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19:18:17 <gangbang> that wasnt piss
19:18:29 <gangbang> someone pretending to be him
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19:19:24 <thefiddler> it was fischer
19:20:45 <gangbang> it wasnt u fuck
19:20:58 <thefiddler> dont call me names
19:22:51 <gangbang> ok fagt
19:23:18 <gangbang> you're that crackhead that went on a rampage lastnight/this morning
19:23:35 <gangbang> kuniva the faggot junkie
19:23:54 <thefiddler> rampage?
19:23:58 <thefiddler> its called venting
19:24:04 <thefiddler> ?
19:24:15 <thefiddler> i can vent all i like you bastard
19:27:37 <gangbang> yeah
19:27:42 <gangbang> junkie faggot
19:28:05 <thefiddler> i not gay
19:28:13 <thefiddler> want a toke arsehole?
19:28:23 <gangbang> you and chris are gay faggots
19:28:38 <thefiddler> sais the gay faggot
19:32:16 <gangbang> do you like it when chris pushes your poo?
19:32:45 <thefiddler> ??
19:32:58 <thefiddler> i push christina applegates poo mate
19:33:05 <thefiddler> duno what youre going on about dipshit
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20:12:01 <Warren1984> The Aviation Herald reported that the Boeing 777, “suffered a collapse of the landing gear and burst into flames” as it landed on landed on Dubai’s runway 12L.
20:12:11 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/emirates-plane-catches-fire-at-dubai-international-airport/news-story/fc1794374c34a2cf8ae8fe7f869df4d3
20:12:24 <Warren1984> boeing 777's have a bad reputation now
20:18:48 <Tigger_> nobody died though
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20:19:39 <xmmm> Good news everyone
20:19:58 <xmmm> Work is getting 100/100
20:20:42 <water_bong> is that kb?
20:20:45 <water_bong> hahahhahahahah
20:23:25 <Warren1984> Tigger_ does cream curdle
20:24:12 <Tigger_> any data limits?
20:24:31 <Warren1984> 150 PB
20:24:43 <Warren1984> peek and 150 PB offpeak
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20:27:26 <Warren1984> Putin probably launched a BUK at the landing gear
20:28:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why does cream curdle?
20:28:35 <Warren1984> and how do you stop it from doing that?
20:29:05 <xmmm> I believe its unlimited
20:29:33 <xmmm> Might try it out with a vpn
20:29:35 <Tigger_> you have to keep the cream in motion, don't let it settle
20:29:51 <xmmm> Now i can upload to youtube faster
20:30:24 <Tigger_> you could download uncompressed 4k bluray rips
20:31:12 <Warren1984> Tigger_ clip clop was telling me his hay and apples are getting a bit boring
20:31:20 <Warren1984> maybe you can grid some spices for him
20:31:32 <Tigger_> I will sprinkle cinnemon powder into his apple juice
20:31:45 <Warren1984> does he drink apple juice?
20:32:04 <Tigger_> he loves it
20:32:13 <Tigger_> but only if it's from a Breville juicer
20:34:35 <Warren1984> how can he discriminate
20:34:41 <Tigger_> horses can tell straight away if it's fresh apple juice from a Breville juicer, or sludge from a Russell Hobbs juicer
20:35:21 <Warren1984> fruit juice is not good for you anyway
20:35:33 <Warren1984> too much juice is not good for you
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20:36:19 <Trem> oi
20:36:29 <Trem> fuckheads
20:36:54 <water_bong> lol faggot
20:37:30 <Trem> Christopher borne not yesterday
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20:37:48 <Trem> but I come for you tommorrow
20:38:18 <water_bong> you cum for another guy?
20:38:18 <Trem> fuck first kill later
20:38:58 <Trem> on ya mums death bed
20:39:14 <water_bong> thats nice
20:39:25 <water_bong> youd fuck my mum while shes dying?
20:39:36 <water_bong> you that desperate for a fuck?
20:40:57 <Trem> and I will be in the will not you
20:50:40 <doctor> disgraceful palaver
20:58:20 <Trem> how am I a faggot when I kissed ya misses
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21:10:43 <thefiddler> is michael temby present?
21:11:00 <Warren1984> WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH CHINA AND RUSSIA?
21:11:00 <Warren1984> China and Russia aren’t exactly age-old friends. Hell, they were once rivals for leaderships of the communist world.
21:11:00 <Warren1984> But the two countries have been working together in recent times to increase their security, economic and diplomatic relationship.
21:11:00 <Warren1984> Why? To bring down the power and influence of the United States.
21:11:00 <Warren1984> Both countries share a mutual distrust of the west, and share a common desire to shake up the global order.
21:11:26 <thefiddler> shut up you retarded mental patient
21:12:15 <Tigger_> in the early 1970s Russia was going to start an all out nuclear attack on China, they came within hours of doing it
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21:26:53 <Trem> hello
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21:43:41 <Trem> red wine and coke
21:43:45 <Trem> lol
21:44:35 <Trem> first thing I spent money on today was cat food
21:44:55 <Trem> cause sockzie is better than most ppl
21:45:05 <Trem> ;p
21:46:55 <Trem> she would rather be around me than any other person
21:47:10 <Trem> proves I'm decent person
21:48:32 <Tigger_> that is proof, cats know best
21:50:02 <Trem> somebody close to me started talking to me again
21:50:07 <Trem> :)
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21:53:54 <Trem> only reason I came too out of my psychosis is her
21:54:39 <Trem> lwaxana has same eyes
21:54:54 <Trem> I like lwaxana
21:56:19 <Trem> I would enjoy lwaxana if she wants
21:58:31 <Trem> lwaxana reminds me of first woman ever to arouse me
21:58:32 <MatthewRobertson> trem
21:58:34 <MatthewRobertson> sup
21:58:59 <Trem> hi
21:59:04 <Trem> red wine coke
22:00:04 <Trem> I don't joke about love
22:00:24 <Trem> I love lwaxana
22:03:07 <Trem> I wish she wasn't worried what ppl thought
22:03:11 <Tigger_> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q2-2016/ 8TB drives performing pretty well
22:03:12 * grem looks at Trem
22:03:21 * grem shakes head
22:03:51 <Trem> grem
22:03:56 <Trem> hi
22:04:11 <Trem> I love somebody more
22:04:17 <Glenn> ?
22:04:19 <grem> you can either a) quit or b) i'll force you to quit
22:04:32 Mode: (by Tigger_) +b *!*[email protected]
22:04:32 Kick: grem was kicked by Tigger_ (Tigger_)
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22:04:43 <Trem> ok
22:04:54 <Glenn> Two onto one.... hardly fair!
22:05:10 <Trem> I love any woman I've ever kissed
22:05:35 <Trem> it's up to them who gets me
22:05:41 * Glenn awaits...
22:06:46 <Trem> I don't hold grudges
22:06:56 <Trem> waste of time
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22:07:07 * Glenn has seen grem in action before... can't possibly win against him!
22:07:23 <Trem> lols
22:07:28 <Trem> coffee
22:07:39 <Glenn> :)
22:08:00 <Trem> grem I love u
22:08:08 <xm> 4TB is doing well, Tigger_
22:08:12 <Glenn> <*cough*>
22:08:19 <xm> 8TB was too much for me for RAID6
22:08:55 <xm> wait i didn tsee the WDC bit
22:09:00 <xm> but that is a small sample size
22:09:22 <Trem> I got 100 gig DVDs rips today
22:09:47 <Trem> was going get 490gig
22:09:57 <Trem> but friend passed out
22:10:12 <Trem> so locked door behind me
22:10:18 <Tigger_> these drives are running 24/7 in data centres, so presumably consumer level load is under 1% of what they do
22:10:30 Quit: Trem ([email protected]) Z-Lined
22:11:30 <xm> Seagate 4TB is shocking
22:13:03 <Tigger_> I've got a few of those
22:13:11 <xm> yeah, external'
22:13:22 <xm> but i dont have anything important on Seagates anymore
22:13:25 <xm> everything is on...
22:13:28 <xm> MY NAS
22:13:35 <Tigger_> I wonder if Seagate will ever do external 8Tb Archive drives
22:13:58 <xm> i was thinking of getting a docking station for a quick and dirty 8TB Seagate
22:14:22 <Tigger_> people say that not many docking stations work with drives above 4Tb
22:15:05 <xm> were you considering?
22:15:24 <Tigger_> not especially, just something I came across
22:16:24 <Tigger_> they use a lot of Seagate, apparently data centres do because the price outweighs the unreliability
22:19:27 <xm> i just had bits from a marzipan bar. pretty gross
22:20:44 <xm> i tried deprogramming another mormon today
22:21:02 <xm> i know it's useless to try but i felt obliged
22:21:11 <xm> they just ignored everything and went on about their testimony
22:23:19 <Tigger_> what arguments did you use?
22:23:54 <xm> i use very basic ones such as
22:24:12 <xm> 1) why did Mormonism have to 'restore' the church after 2000 or so years
22:24:26 <xm> 2) what else can Mormonism offer that the protestant church cant
22:24:46 <Tigger_> that all?
22:24:50 <xm> they are actually heavier in ritual/tradition then i realised
22:24:53 <xm> it was a quick bus trip
22:25:03 <xm> there were other arguments too
22:25:32 <xm> i asked them what does the baptism of the dead achieve?
22:25:33 <Tigger_> I use the Book of Abraham, a proven forgery, with there being no such thing as "Reformed Egyptian"
22:25:44 <xm> these are girls who wont really care
22:25:53 <xm> i did mention Smith was a mormon but they dont care
22:26:01 <xm> their entire faith is based on their feelings
22:26:11 <xm> and one girl says she wants to cry everytiume she gives her testimony
22:26:12 <Tigger_> the Book of Abraham proves that Joseph Smith was a fraud though, there's no way around it
22:26:22 <xm> the Chinese one goes on about how the church is one big family for her
22:26:43 <xm> they repeat the same thing again and again, and their eyes kinda light up in a strangely vacant way when they do their testimony
22:26:49 <xm> like a stepford wives thing
22:27:09 <xm> i am not that familiar with the Book of Abraham, ive spent more time with JWs
22:27:14 <Tigger_> there's also the Salamander Letter, a forgery that fooled the Mormon Elders, which proves that they too think Joseph Smith was a fraud
22:27:24 <xm> interesting
22:27:46 <xm> ill mention these but what will happen at best is that they ask their elders
22:27:58 <xm> i noticed hte young one did kind of have some doubts
22:28:28 <xm> how does the Book of Abraham prove SMith is a fraud?
22:30:31 <xm> ah Refoirmed Egyptian
22:30:42 <Tigger_> it is an ancient Egyptian funeral text that Smith purchased and then 'translated', but his translation has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual text
22:30:46 <xm> i was tempted to mention the DNA argument about Native AMericans
22:30:56 <xm> ive used that one before but they literally ignored it and went off to prayer
22:31:13 <xm> im curious how Mormons defend this in serious debates
22:31:35 <Tigger_> they can't
22:33:01 <Tigger_> they go off into fuzzy territory saying that rather than being a literal translation, the papyri 'inspired' him to have a vision of the now physically lost Book of Abraham
22:34:24 <Tigger_> one thing that stands out is that Joseph Smith's frauds got more and more blatant as he went on, suggesting that he simply didn't care about the long term viability of Mormonism, just getting money and hoes for himself while he was on a roll
22:38:49 <xm> i watched a video last night on EWS
22:38:55 <xm> what is your take on it and the rituals?
22:39:02 <xm> Eyes Wide Shut
22:39:34 <xm> it went on about how the wife was more 'aware' than the husband, and that the daughter was being groomed to be the next
22:39:36 <Tigger_> 33rd degree masons, as the double headed eagle symbol on the chair indicates
22:39:52 <Tigger_> probably a fanciful interpretation
22:40:24 <Tigger_> there is a severely lunatic documentary about The Shining that has all sorts of preposterous interpretations
22:40:37 <xm> i know the one
22:40:40 <xm> havent seen it though
22:41:43 <xm> this might be anecdotal but i find 'average' people more drawn to bizarre conspiracy theories and that the more serious conspiracy theorists go for the more established but tame theories
22:42:29 <xm> i heard of that Shining documentary from a workmate
22:42:47 <xm> i know of plenty of 'normal' people that believe Tupac is still alive
22:43:06 <xm> although thanks to hip hop i think more people are into the illuminati now
22:43:10 <Tigger_> normal people made the Davinci Code a bestseller
22:43:18 <xm> yes, i knew plenty of those
22:43:36 <xm> another movie is coming out based on the same people
22:44:43 <xm> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3062096/
22:44:47 <BlackDevil> IMDB: Inferno (2016) - 6.7/10 of 207,475 votes - Stars: Tom Hanks, Felicity Jones, Ben Foster - Rated: Rated PG-13 for sequences of action and violence, disturbing images, some language, thematic elements and brief sensuality - Runtime: 2hrs 1min - Genre: Mystery, Sci-Fi, Thriller - Release Date: 28 October 2016 (USA)
22:45:22 <Tigger_> there was a trend in 1970s films to be very conspiracy oriented, a cultural effect that built after JFK's assassination, through to Watergate. such as I rewatched Close Encounters awhile ago, and the thing that stood out most was how conspiracy oriented it was
22:45:55 <xm> how do you rate CLose Encounters?
22:46:05 <xm> i found it to be too slow as a kid and a bit strange
22:46:14 <Tigger_> as a kid I never really noticed that paranoia so much
22:46:34 <Tigger_> it's a good film, best of its genre I guess
22:47:35 <Tigger_> though it's interesting that the French UFO researcher in the film is based on Jacques Vallee, who doesn't believe the aliens are from space, and he explained this to Spielberg, and Spielberg agreed he was probably right, but there's not much money in a film like that
22:47:50 <xm> hollow earth?
22:48:06 <xm> or something more spiritual?
22:48:30 <xm> after watching The Conjuring 2 i was thinking again about the origins of poltergeists/ghosts
22:48:38 <Tigger_> no, that Vallee believes the aliens are Satanic angels, though he doesn't quite go so far as to explicitly say this
22:49:20 <xm> you know how people do magick to get dark powers to do their bidding?
22:49:27 <xm> is that ever to Satanic angels?
22:49:30 <xm> or just demons
22:49:30 <Tigger_> but Spielberg was right about the profit aspect, the Mothman Prophecies is the flip side of Close Encounters, and it didn't make much money
22:49:32 <xm> or can it be either
22:49:46 <Tigger_> demons can't exist independently of a human host
22:50:13 <xm> i should ask this guy i see at work sometimes about his seances/ouija experiences
22:50:48 <Tigger_> nearly everyone who messes around with that stuff gets into trouble eventually
22:50:57 <xm> so demons arent capable of having power on humans unelss they possess a human?
22:51:07 <xm> he's been married like 5 times with 7 kids
22:51:29 <xm> i never expected him to do this
22:51:47 <xm> because he looks and acts like a full on bogan
22:52:15 <Tigger_> Satanic angels can go wherever they like in this world, manifest themselves anywhere, and do not need a human host
22:52:44 <xm> also another thing i was wondering about is, are real life tangible equipment required along with physical gestures and spoken words
22:53:08 <xm> can you 'use' a Ouoja board just by thinking it
22:53:10 <xm> is what im trying to say
22:53:12 <Tigger_> a demon on the other hand has no ability to interact in this world except through a human conduit
22:53:42 <Tigger_> yes, you could do it purely mentally
22:53:49 <xm> i know people have had success with DIY Ouija boards, and there are online ones too
22:54:23 <xm> is Ouija popular with goths?
22:54:32 <Tigger_> no
22:55:29 <Tigger_> I've never known anyone to use one, or even mention them
22:56:10 <Tigger_> people make all sorts of assumptions, when it's really all about hating posers
22:56:45 <Tigger_> separating true goth from posers who listen to the wrong bands
22:57:48 <xm> Warren1984 / Tigger_ : https://scontent.fper2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-0/p403x403/13661952_1241381045895246_4115831691291745357_o.jpg
22:58:55 <xm> we didnt have any true goths, just these girls into Charmed and played with witchcraft/magick
22:59:23 <Tigger_> prep posers
22:59:57 <xm> so Tara didnt coin 'posers' ?
23:00:12 <Tigger_> no the real activity of goths is being into a band more obscure than everyone else is into
23:00:56 <Tigger_> and then if that becomes too popular, saying that "I was into it before it was popular"
23:00:56 <Warren1984> lol xm
23:01:06 <xm> hipster goth
23:01:11 <xm> gothster
23:01:14 <Tigger_> tryhard is the more common term
23:02:02 <xm> i wasnt into any scene during school, just the library crowd
23:02:12 <Tigger_> like "Did you see those try-hards over there with their latest album Cure shirts!"
23:02:21 <xm> and i was probably one of the few that could actually code
23:02:27 <xm> heh
23:03:10 <Tigger_> East Germany 1976 Olympian: http://ssqq.com/archive/images/east%20germany%20steroids.jpg
23:03:17 <xm> i was listening to the Smiths today, How Soon Is Now reminds me of The Cure's Burn in soem strange way
23:03:57 <xm> Russians probably dont even think they are doing anything wrong, that everyone else is doing it anyway
23:04:33 <Tigger_> the Russians never did it to any degree, it was mainly East Germany
23:04:45 <Tigger_> though it's obvious China is doing it now, with that girl swimmer
23:04:57 <xm> i wonder what happens when they stop working out
23:06:02 <Tigger_> btw, Tara is writing Twilight fan fiction now, and the Mary Sue of her story says things like "It's not my fault that I'm so hot that all the other girls hate me"
23:07:04 <xm> does this mean a reappearance on YouTube
23:07:10 <xm> i think her last video is quite old
23:07:26 <xm> when i see goths or "goths" i wonder what they do for a living
23:07:44 <xm> the ones that go all the way with the appearance
23:08:05 <Tigger_> the dole
23:08:20 <xm> that is my assumption
23:08:23 <doctor> they made a video a few months back trying to form a reunion
23:08:30 <doctor> ive subscribed to them
23:08:33 <xm> lol
23:08:45 <xm> doctor were you ever a goth?
23:08:55 <xm> surprise us
23:09:20 <doctor> Nah, I thought about it tho
23:09:26 <xm> you were probably a bully, as you admitted you were, calling everything a "poser" or "conformist"
23:09:45 <Tigger_> a girl I knew worked at KFC, but was told by management to cut back on the goth makeup, but she refused, so was sacked
23:09:58 <doctor> yeah, in a school full of posers and conformists. they didn't like me cause I always made them feel bad I guess
23:10:13 <doctor> good on her
23:10:17 <xm> given the political correctness of today i wonder if she would have kept the job
23:11:08 <xm> the only identity i ever took seriously was my programming one
23:11:14 <xm> i thought everyone would never be like me
23:11:28 <doctor> nah, i doubt it unless she was coloured and claimed it was part of her culture
23:11:58 <Tigger_> there are no coloured goths, come to think of it there are no gay goths either
23:12:07 <xm> what about transcorpse
23:12:11 <xm> she believes she is really dead
23:13:04 <Tigger_> there's no politics, so someone would only be poetically dead
23:13:11 <xm> that cybergoth dance music makes me wonder if there are gay goths though, but tehn again -- they are probably posers
23:14:22 <xm> so goths are pretty much goth 4 lyfe?
23:14:41 <Tigger_> well the only politics I ever encountered was fairly rightwing stuff, but also not that deeply into it
23:15:07 <Tigger_> goth 4 lyfe is pretty standard
23:15:23 <xm> what about when they turn 60
23:15:34 <xm> when did the scene start anyway
23:15:45 <Tigger_> ie. they might hold rightwing views, but also not actually bother to attend a meeting or anything
23:16:09 <xm> Smith would be over 50 by now i assume
23:16:36 <Tigger_> nobody knows how these scenes start, but obviously it was an offshoot from the punk era
23:16:59 <xm> i was letting YouTube dictate my 'random' directions in punk today'
23:17:04 <Tigger_> the word 'gothic' came from a Joy Division interview
23:17:05 <xm> i ended up on a semi-decent song
23:17:17 <xm> Pink Turns Blue - sometthing somethinb Both Sides
23:18:02 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkprOe1LxY
23:18:07 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Pink Turns Blue - Walking On Both Sides (1987) (Nov 30, 2009) Length: 3:49 - Category: Music - 194,422 views views - likes (99.7%), 4 dislikes (0.3%)
23:18:39 <Tigger_> there needs to be a goth version of this: http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/what-kind-of-metalhead-are-you
23:18:50 <xm> there are plenty for 'EDM' too
23:19:07 <xm> but goth is all the same to me. well, either goth or wannabe
23:20:16 <Tigger_> http://i0.wp.com/www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Black-Metaller1.jpeg?w=600 this guy is often confused for a goth
23:20:33 <xm> Now is the time we ask. If everyone reading this right now gave $3, our fundraiser would be done within an hour. That's right, the price of a cup of coffee is all we need
23:20:36 <xm> lol
23:20:48 <xm> a cup of coffee, that line is always used by charities
23:21:34 <xm> goths dont really ahve goatees do they?
23:21:44 <Tigger_> not usually
23:23:25 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you think my sisters rabbit is beautiful
23:23:42 <Tigger_> I have no feelings for Fudge Packer
23:24:43 <Tigger_> here is ajnin: http://i0.wp.com/www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Mainstreamallica-Fan1.jpeg?resize=604%2C776
23:25:07 <Warren1984> going to Melbourne this Sat
23:25:13 <xm> how long
23:25:13 <Warren1984> come back on Monday
23:25:19 <Warren1984> I mean Brisbane
23:25:28 <Warren1984> $600
23:25:37 <Warren1984> if my sister can't get us a flight
23:25:50 <Tigger_> don't bring Fudge Packer, he'll be in a lot of trouble in Queensland
23:25:57 <xm> look for the guy with long hair and horse whip holding up the sign "Warren1984" at the airport
23:26:10 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what if fudge packer wears a suicide vest
23:26:17 <xm> lol
23:26:34 <Warren1984> with the wire in his mouth
23:26:44 <Warren1984> and he can clip it with his teeth
23:26:53 <Warren1984> to detonate it
23:27:12 <xm> you need to write scripts for Family Guy, Warren1984
23:27:18 <xm> you can do cut-away scenes for them
23:27:32 <Warren1984> lmao xm
23:27:51 <Warren1984> Tigger_ are you coming to visit?
23:28:24 <Tigger_> catch the connecting flight to Birdsville
23:28:27 <Warren1984> I guess if I die in a plane crash
23:28:31 <xm> Tigger_ will only come to Brisbane from Birdsville if you're going to give him a Breville appliance he hasnt got already
23:28:45 <Warren1984> my serve arthritis, mental disabilities won't be a problem anymore
23:28:48 <xm> ive got dibs on Butt Junkies
23:29:16 <Warren1984> I don't trust planes anymore
23:29:18 <xm> are you technically "severe arthritis"
23:29:22 <Warren1984> too many crashes
23:29:34 <Warren1984> too many bomb threats etc
23:29:36 <xm> but is it the planes themselves or human
23:29:43 <Warren1984> lol xm
23:29:44 <Tigger_> a plane crash might cure your arthritis, like on LOST
23:30:02 <Warren1984> well hopefully if the plane does crash it kills me fast
23:30:17 <xm> can you get people survivng plane crashes?
23:30:27 <xm> from teh sky
23:30:30 <Warren1984> what if the pilot decides to commit suicide and flies into your house Tigger_
23:31:05 <Warren1984> clip clop screams in pain walking around with kero burning him
23:31:16 <Tigger_> I had a dream where that happened, where a 747 crashed straight into the house next door, and the explosion, debris, etc. all stopped exactly at the property line
23:31:22 <Warren1984> and your storage of spices and lentils goes everywhere
23:32:38 <xm> ive had a few dreams where i see very large planes hovering nearby, but they never crash trhat close
23:32:50 <xm> strangely there is something satisfying about these dreams
23:33:00 <xm> there is some awe looking at them in the sky
23:33:02 <Tigger_> I also had a dream where cylons were living next door
23:33:05 <xm> when they get really close
23:34:12 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what if fudge packer comes with an army of his mates
23:34:18 <Warren1984> wearing suicide vests
23:34:26 <Warren1984> surrounding the airport?
23:34:30 <xm> you are asking a lot of questions Warren1984
23:34:41 <xm> this is anxiety
23:34:54 <Warren1984> true xm
23:35:43 <Tigger_> ASIO would be very interested in why Fudge Packer's owner is spending so much time in the middle east
23:36:00 <xm> you should be on the plane listening to my music while playing tigger's game on the GDP Q9
23:36:12 <xm> dont think too much
23:36:48 <xm> you can get 3 cans of Mother energy drink sugar free for $6 now
23:36:54 <xm> that's $2 each for 500mL
23:37:23 <Warren1984> anxiety is caused by intuition
23:37:35 <Warren1984> worrying about the future rather than being focused on the present
23:38:42 <xm> when you're on the plane look outside and pretend to see thousands of pink rabbits parachuting in the sky
23:39:10 <Warren1984> at woolworths you can get 8x 500ml for $14 on some of the special days
23:39:20 <Warren1984> it's rare
23:39:24 <Warren1984> but you do get it
23:39:38 <Warren1984> where from xm
23:39:39 <xm> stock up with trolleys
23:39:41 <xm> BP
23:39:52 <Tigger_> has Tarryn converted to Islam yet?
23:39:57 <Warren1984> I have limit of 1x 375ml can a day
23:40:00 <Warren1984> yes Tigger_
23:40:21 <Warren1984> xm do you get anxiety about going on a flight?
23:40:41 <xm> ive never been. but i will have to eventually. im not concerned, as im not worreid about death or these sort of things
23:40:50 <xm> i get more anxiety thinking of someone stealing my laptop or NAS
23:40:54 <xm> or losing all my data
23:40:57 <xm> those =sort of things
23:41:27 <xm> im also anxious that im developing feelings for Fudge Packer
23:41:33 <Tigger_> my main concern is that you you need to use different settings on your Breville breadmaker at high altitudes
23:41:35 <xm> that you might notice and never let me play with it again
23:42:07 <xm> i saw a Breville Coffee grinder today
23:42:12 <xm> i was going to take a photo but got slack
23:42:25 <Tigger_> the top end models are very expensive
23:42:32 <xm> i wonder how well it woudl grind other stuff
23:42:37 <xm> like if i threw in a cinnamon stick
23:42:43 <Warren1984> Tigger_ Fudge Packer wants your love
23:42:51 <xm> ill see if i can find the model on the internet
23:42:55 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has never being on a flight
23:43:14 <xm> he only travels on hrose back
23:43:15 <Tigger_> I've been on many planes, the worst thing is how cramped they are
23:44:04 <Tigger_> a genuine heavy metal fan in Africa, rarest of all species: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120626043859-botswana-metal-heads-big-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg
23:44:17 <xm> http://www.breville.com.au/the-smart-grindertm-3575.html
23:44:58 <Warren1984> xm when you are flying
23:45:07 <Warren1984> yell "come on you bitch crash"
23:45:22 <xm> next year some time
23:45:31 <Tigger_> yes, those coffee grinders do it in such a way that the coffee beans can be ground without getting hot
23:45:34 <xm> get your sister to book you a flight around the same time
23:45:38 <Warren1984> throw a grenade into the jet
23:45:58 <xm> actual my Asian relatives wont really let me go far while im in Melbourne
23:46:02 <xm> actually*
23:46:18 <xm> unless i stay for more than a week
23:46:23 <Warren1984> you could just catch the tram
23:47:03 <xm> we should just tour WA
23:47:22 <xm> let's rent out a combivan. you drive, ill buy you the energy drinks
23:47:37 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why don't you love fudge packer
23:47:41 <xm> pump 10L of fuel in to the car. then pump 30L of energy drinks into you
23:47:43 <Warren1984> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2130570-uk-woman-possibly-oldest-with-down-syndrome-celebrates-75th-birday/?utm_content=bufferfb9f3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
23:47:58 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I've never met a rabbit before, I don't know what they're like
23:48:12 <Warren1984> soft fluffy creatures
23:48:47 <xm> it sounds more like you are trying to arrange a date between Tigger_ and Fudge Packer, Warren1984
23:48:58 <Warren1984> lol xm
23:49:21 <xm> you should stick to getting me to play SC I m8
23:49:24 <xm> karn bro
23:49:30 <xm> SC II*
23:49:56 <Warren1984> u want to play tomorrow night?
23:50:09 <xm> perhaps
23:51:00 <Warren1984> life is a bitch, so death should not be scary
23:51:38 <Warren1984> in 10 years my arthritis will be so serve that I can barely move
23:51:42 <xm> did you have any anxiety on the plane when you last went
23:51:51 <Warren1984> a little
23:51:52 <xm> did the doctor say that Warren1984 ?
23:51:57 <Warren1984> but I shouldn't have any
23:52:01 <Warren1984> nope
23:52:10 <Warren1984> never spoke to Dr Perica about it
23:53:17 <Warren1984> I remember when I went to South Africa
23:53:30 <Warren1984> I was more scared back then
23:53:46 <Warren1984> but perhaps because I am so drugged up, I don't notice my anxiety
23:53:56 <Warren1984> seroquel is a strong tranquilizer
23:54:19 <Warren1984> good at tranquilizing anxiety
23:54:26 <Tigger_> what were you scared of in South Africa?
23:54:32 <Warren1984> u could get some xm
23:54:46 <Warren1984> the winds pushing the plane around
23:54:51 <Warren1984> and the gun pointed at us
23:56:54 <Warren1984> xm do you think the Indian's were being cheap and cutting corners when they serviced the Emirates plane?
23:59:18 <xm> maybe they just wanted metal for a taxi car parts
23:59:24 <xm> a missing door perhaps
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