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18:50 Topic Is: Lord Trump officially passes the primaries finishing line: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker
18:50 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Fri May 27 18:38:40 2016
20:08 <Tigger_> Marttin, I agree that it doesn't look good
21:46 <Tigger_> agreeing and then backing out of the debate is the single biggest mistake Trump has made so far
27:29 <xm> i beat warren
27:33 <xm> i had 98,875
27:38 <xm> he had 77,425
28:01 <xm> i had about 3 times more units than him
28:18 <Warren1984> yeah I was concentrating too much on building my base up
28:23 <xm> he was hoarding resources
28:26 <xm> to build
28:27 <Warren1984> I realized it's not really practical
28:41 <xm> his technology was very good. like 3 times mine
28:50 <Warren1984> does protoss turrets attack both ground and air units?
29:07 <xm> you also stole the mineral field early on next to me u wanker
29:09 <xm> karn bro
29:13 <xm> bad sportsmanship
29:19 <Warren1984> lol
29:20 <xm> i placedmy pylon there first
29:23 <xm> you saw it
29:27 <xm> then you built a base
29:28 <xm> lol;
29:54 <Warren1984> did you notice the rich minerals
29:58 <Warren1984> the gold stuff
30:25 <xm> yeah
30:37 <xm> protoss plays very well against zerg
30:46 <xm> that's why i always set it to zerg
31:16 <xm> wow i didnt know i could review your build order, warren
31:28 <xm> are the terrn turrets better than the protoss canons?
31:47 <xm> the protoss cannons do detect 'invisible' things
31:48 <Warren1984> not sure
31:57 <Warren1984> all I know is they shoot down air units
32:13 <xm> so not as good as photon cannons then
32:17 <Warren1984> marines are so good in Terran
32:19 <xm> which race do yoyu find easiest to play?
32:26 <Abortion> protoss cannons IIRC are the best
32:28 <Warren1984> but I try not to use that strategy all the time
32:39 <Warren1984> Terran
32:44 <Warren1984> then protoss
32:46 <Warren1984> then zerg
32:49 <xm> whats so good about marines?
32:51 <Abortion> needing pylons is their main weakness
33:11 <Warren1984> terran need supply depos
33:22 <xm> you sure love to make heaps of marines, Warren1984
33:30 <Warren1984> marines are just generally all round good at everything
33:36 <xm> explain?
33:49 <xm> can they cook using breville gear?
34:04 <Warren1984> any unit the enemy has the marines can easily kill in large numbers, both ground and air units
34:19 <xm> i play protoss to win but i find zerg a lot of fun for evolving
34:31 <Warren1984> all the supply depots have breville gear
34:44 <Warren1984> I learned them all
34:45 <xm> lol
35:00 <Warren1984> zerg are good if you want a quick rush in the beginning
35:24 <Warren1984> get the larva queen to spew on the hatchery
35:43 <Warren1984> make heaps of zerglings very quickly
36:01 <Abortion> very micro intensive those queens
36:06 <Warren1984> I was just seeking an alternative to marines
36:32 <Warren1984> I find it good to play and then trying to refine it
59:44 Quit: Lish ([email protected]) Quit:
20:09 <xm> is the Lenovo brand taken seriously yet?
20:20 <xm> apparently they can be turned into Hackintoshes quite easily
20:30 Quit: Lish_ ([email protected]) Connection closed
20:54 <Abortion> I have 2 lenovo laptops, no idea about hackintoshes though
21:03 <xm> are they OK?
21:07 <Abortion> (the older one I pulled to pieces)
21:17 <Abortion> they have their pluses and minuses
21:25 <xm> such as?
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22:04 <Abortion> "BIOS" (well EFI) menu doesn't have heaps of options (then again I don't think most do)
22:35 <xm> all the keys are OK right? nothing falling off
22:42 <xm> ive experienced that a lot with a few keyboards
22:45 <Abortion> Oh key keyboard on mine is nice
22:51 <Abortion> but mine is a T series thinkpad
23:10 <Abortion> the full click touchpad is bullshit, but I think later models they scrapped them
23:30 <Abortion> or at least partially
24:01 <Abortion> well, the mechanism is actually nice (many of them are actually a big hinge on the top, which results in variable click force required as you move up the touchpad)
24:11 <xm> i just dont know if tehy can be trusted because of their Chinese background
24:23 <xm> even though a lot of laptops are made there
24:28 <Abortion> trusted... as in security?
24:35 <xm> workmanship
24:44 <xm> i dont know much about laptops. just a hunch
24:47 <Abortion> I have had some minor assembly issues, sure
24:56 <Abortion> but in terms of build design, its not too bad
25:00 <xm> my first/current laptop is a Macbook Pro. it's pretty decent
25:08 <Abortion> the hinge is very good
25:11 <xm> what issues?
25:33 <Abortion> on my earlier laptop, the battery pack wasn't fully clicked together
26:13 <xm> http://www.productreview.com.au/p/lenovo.html
26:14 <Abortion> my current one, the small bit of plastic between the smart card reader and DVD drive bay snapped (but this isn't a big deal in practical terms)
26:14 <xm> lol
26:19 <xm> lots of angry reviews
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49:58 <xm> http://www.megabuy.com.au/seagate-wss-nas-6-bay-diskless-stee300-with-3-years-warranty-p582209.html
50:03 <xm> cheap for 6 bay
50:19 <xm> now to read specs...
51:46 <xm> nup, no good
52:04 <xm> nap time
53:40 <Abortion> "Powered by Windows Storage Server 2012 R2 Essentials and an Intel dual-core Intel processor" lol
54:12 <Abortion> as a linux guy, I'd give that a very wide berth
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15:36 Quit: cita ([email protected]) Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
15:55 <Warren1984> xm does a photon cannon destroy land and air units?
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17:12 <Warren1984> I should make something new in the kitchen
17:20 <Warren1984> I keep making the same things over and over
17:23 <Warren1984> i.e. steak
17:30 <Hooligan> I should burn the house down.
17:33 <Warren1984> veggies etc
17:52 <Warren1984> be like Tigger_ and purchase every breville product
18:09 <Hooligan> he should buy a thermomix
18:40 <Warren1984> only problem with protoss is you have to put things in power fields
18:46 Join: doctor ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
18:52 <Warren1984> hey doctor
18:59 <doctor> Hey Waz
19:03 <Warren1984> ready for a game of SC 2 with xm and I
19:08 <doctor> sure
19:17 <Warren1984> xm set it up bro
19:22 <Tigger_> Thermomix are devilish sorcery, not permissible in a Christian household
19:26 <Warren1984> well xm
20:25 <Warren1984> well xm
21:06 <Hooligan> perfect for the entire family
21:40 <Marttin> hi doctor!
21:44 <Marttin> how are you
21:49 <doctor> Hello Marttin
21:56 <doctor> I'm doing well, and yourself?
22:13 <Warren1984> doctor are you good at zerg or protoss?
22:29 <Marttin> well too, I thought you were dead for a few days
22:36 <doctor> I can play both, but I'm not sure what I'm good at
22:49 <Marttin> like too much yearning of prom made you suicide
22:55 <doctor> I did die, but I have risen a new
22:55 <Warren1984> I only really know how to beat easy computers
22:57 <doctor> lol
23:07 <Warren1984> my executive functioning isn't tuned enough to go harder
23:16 <Marttin> are you meeting many commies at uni?
23:35 <doctor> Nah, not social enough to know any body
23:50 <Warren1984> same with me at my course
23:56 <Warren1984> didn't really connect with anyone
24:10 <Marttin> bullshit
24:19 <Warren1984> papi
24:25 <Marttin> have you tried to go there tipsy?
24:25 <doctor> I'm too young to mingle with the old people and too old to mix in with the young people
24:40 <Marttin> hehe
24:46 <Marttin> that must suck doctor
24:50 <Warren1984> Versus Terran this one is very good:
24:50 <Warren1984> 9 – Pylon
24:50 <Warren1984> 13 – Gateway
24:50 <Warren1984> 15 – Assimilator (x2)
24:50 <Warren1984> 16 – Pylon
24:50 <Warren1984> 17 – @100% Gateway, start Cybernetics Core
24:50 <Warren1984> 19 – Gateway (2)
24:50 <Warren1984> 21 – Pylon
24:50 <Warren1984> 21 -@100% Cybernetics Core, start Warpgate Research and Stalker (1) (Chronoboost Stalkers)
24:50 <Warren1984> 23 – Mothership Core
24:50 <Warren1984> 25 – @100% Stalker (1), start Stalker (2)
24:50 <Warren1984> @100% Mothership Core, move out with 1st Stalker and Mothership Core, and rally 2nd Stalker to fight
24:50 <Warren1984> Benchmark: @5:30ish, you should get to your opponent’s base with 2 Stalkers and a Mothership Core on most maps.
24:51 <doctor> I wouldn't be able to learn if I were to go in tipsy
25:02 <doctor> Not really, I'm not there to make friends or socialise
25:21 <Marttin> ok, just to become a business shark
25:41 <doctor> Warren, I just build things and then attack, I don't have much structure to my plans
26:12 <doctor> I'm too much of a weakling to be a business shark - too much empathy
26:28 <Warren1984> doctor is your timer on SC 2 out?
26:40 <doctor> What do you mean?
26:49 <Warren1984> if you fail to plan then you plan to fail
26:52 <Marttin> despite your studies cant really focus on that, psychology is all about what you are
27:19 <Warren1984> well in company of hereos 2 when I play the timer is exactly the same as my physical timer
27:20 <doctor> I dont plan to fail, I just build things to kill things
27:25 <Warren1984> SC 2 timer is too fast
27:31 <Warren1984> lol doctor
27:39 <doctor> Yeah, psychology there isn't many job prospects at the end, I do it more for myself
27:49 <doctor> I'd like to be able to control my emotions
29:11 <doctor> I'm doing a computer science major as it's a bachelor of science (psychology)? if that makes sense
29:19 <doctor> ECU have an odd way of doing things
29:33 <doctor> But I seem to like programming when things work
30:13 <doctor> Had a programming assignment to do which frustrated me a lot but was a relief to finish
30:30 <Marttin> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjijlYKW0AEsMIx.jpg:large
30:57 <Marttin> I have never been to an uni
31:17 <Tigger_> doctor, what languages did they use?
31:21 <Marttin> but it certainly sounds crazy that you were 6 or 8 hours a day with the same subject
31:52 <doctor> just c problem solving and abstraction
31:56 <Marttin> do they have raspberries pi?
32:44 <doctor> we used notepad++ and some gcc compiler
33:39 <doctor> I was there for 5 hours a day max but most work was done at home
34:07 <Tigger_> they're both free, yet universities charge so much
34:32 <doctor> yeah, it was around $1100 for that unit
35:22 <Marttin> I thought it was meant to be free, and paid back if you make more than 50k in the future
35:23 <doctor> The textbook provided wasn't much help, so I just youtubed and googled most stuff
35:45 <doctor> Yeah I got a hecs loan, so I'll pay it back when I get a job apparently
36:37 <Marttin> it doesnt matter how much you make a year or if its on the matter or not you have studied, you will likewise have to pay?
37:19 <Tigger_> Marttin, it's sort of like that, but a loan that you only start repaying once you're earning $44,000 (or something), but you accumulate interest all the years that you don't reach that threshold
37:20 <doctor> Yeah, still have to pay
37:32 <Marttin> fuck
38:19 <doctor> Some people dodge the country, but only those who take on expensive arts degrees
38:58 <Marttin> Im proud of them
39:06 <doctor> lol
39:15 <Marttin> the true australians, D$P at its best
40:52 <doctor> The dream is to be on the D$P while living in another country, earning a fortune by exploiting the local populous
41:07 <Tigger_> they're shutting down those loopholes now
41:42 <Tigger_> it used to be that you could live overseas permanently and get D$P, but then they changed it to you had to be in Australia at least once every three months, then 6 weeks
42:18 <doctor> That's not so bad, just return to pick up the lastest technology then move back
51:13 <xm> doctor / Warren1984
51:15 <xm> you guys ready
51:21 <doctor> yeah im on
51:27 <xm> Warren1984: is playing it seems
51:31 <xm> against AI
51:36 <xm> do they have 3 vs 3 games
51:43 <doctor> yeah
51:45 <xm> or is it 4 vs 4, and you add an AI to your team
51:49 <xm> ok ill look
52:21 <xm> ive got a 1.25L bottle of Sprite next to me
52:25 <xm> not quite Mountain Dew
52:29 <xm> so not quite the gamer yet
54:08 <xm> Warren1984: GTFO out of your game
54:19 <xm> doctor: who have you been playing SC II with all this time?
54:43 <doctor> just myself
54:50 <doctor> i played one yesterday with warren
55:09 <xm> comp sci, sc 2; not very true gay
55:12 <xm> as marttin would say
55:21 <Marttin> lol
55:27 <xm> your exams are soon arent they
55:30 <xm> june
55:47 <xm> tip: go to library and photocopy past exams
55:53 <doctor> yeah, week after next week
55:57 <xm> they always repeat or vary it slightly
56:03 <doctor> yeah they have a heap of old exams on blackboard
56:06 <xm> passing is easy
56:14 <xm> just doing well is another
56:20 <xm> depends how high you are aiming
56:23 <doctor> yeah, I'd like to do well
56:26 <xm> since you arent doing it for a career
56:30 <xm> you may want to do it for the challenge
56:34 <doctor> yeah
56:39 <xm> or to get 100% and ask people what they got
56:47 <xm> "oh only 78%?"
56:55 <xm> then wait for tehm to ask what you got
57:05 <xm> i know about this because i did it when i was a kid
57:07 <doctor> "I didn't do as well as I'd like, only 100%. I feel terrible"
57:13 <doctor> lol
57:18 <xm> you cn get over 100%
57:21 <xm> it's possible
57:38 <xm> it's when they give out bonuses or when they make a mistake and you fix it and answer it
57:53 <doctor> Im just going to aim for a HD but be happy with a D
58:19 <xm> you must be better than mentalson
58:43 <doctor> exactly, so he can be my errand boy some day
58:45 <doctor> brb
00:07 <xm> warren and i like to play with all the AIs on very easy. because gamingis with friends is not about the bonding experience, but 100% (HDs) about winning
00:40 <xm> do oyu know what this % handicap thing is
00:47 <Warren1984> I was owning with protoss
00:55 <xm> are you ready now
00:57 <xm> karn
01:08 <Warren1984> yes
01:14 <xm> doctor is away
01:22 <xm> we will wait for him to gethis Mountain Dew
01:31 <xm> and do his power speed study for 5 mins
01:49 <xm> on "How to optimise a sorting algorithm in C"
02:48 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is playing AOE 2
02:58 <Warren1984> I feel like coke
03:18 <xm> im having sprite
03:23 <xm> it's nice to have a change now and then
04:41 <doctor> back
05:06 <Warren1984> same here
05:09 <Warren1984> OI KARN
05:18 <Warren1984> true
05:21 <Warren1984> or fanta
05:22 <xm> OOPS i booted doctor
05:26 <xm> i didnt know he had an alias
05:33 <xm> i was wondering why that was
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05:50 <Warren1984> doctor is going to sue you for homophobia
05:57 <Marttin> lol
06:02 <xm> i have cheesecake
06:17 <Warren1984> cheesecake yum
06:23 <xm> i am more than happy to make a gay wedding cheesecake for doctor's wedding to gs
06:54 <doctor> it has to be rainbow coloured
06:55 <xm> warren why cant you stay in my game
07:02 <xm> it is doing that thing where you join/part
07:16 <Warren1984> dunno
07:21 <xm> ill recreate
10:35 <Warren1984> u re-created?
10:50 <xm> creating one now
11:21 <xm> did you get an invite?
11:39 <doctor> try again
11:48 <Warren1984> no
11:54 <xm> doctor's works fine
12:08 <xm> quit and restart sc 2, Warren1984
13:48 <Warren1984> ok
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15:15 <doctor> maybe get warren to make it
15:24 <xm> everyone ready
15:27 <xm> nah he can go in now
15:46 <doctor> yep
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34:29 <xm> ill have a break
34:42 <xm> that was interesting to play with 3
34:46 <Warren1984> yeah
34:50 <Warren1984> game ended so fast
34:55 <xm> yes
34:59 <doctor> smaller map
35:02 <Warren1984> did I steal your space
35:16 <xm> warren thought you were going to do that to me again
35:20 <xm> warren i*
35:25 <xm> so i quickly took it
35:33 <xm> do that to me again
35:37 <xm> that is
35:40 <xm> jokes bro
35:47 <doctor> lol, just mine his nodes
35:49 <Warren1984> can we all share resources
35:59 <Warren1984> protoss is good
36:06 <Warren1984> but they are expensive
36:18 <doctor> we can play another if you like
36:18 <xm> so is breville
36:27 <xm> i want to do some coding first
36:33 <doctor> all good
36:38 <Warren1984> ok
36:39 <xm> i dont know how long i will take
36:42 <xm> could be for a while
36:46 <Warren1984> I am going to practice some zerg
36:48 <xm> i like to rotate around activities
36:56 <doctor> i gotta clean my grill
37:07 <xm> teeth grill$?
37:12 <xm> does it say #pd
37:24 <Warren1984> ajax powder
37:30 <Warren1984> boiling water
37:38 <xm> just use TNT, Warren1984
37:42 <Warren1984> lol
38:16 <Tigger_> I decided to make another pizza
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42:38 <xm> that would be funny if i told you BBL - coding, but then you look at my battle.net status and it says im playing other people
42:42 <xm> r u seeing other ppl bro
42:47 <xm> karn bro tell me the truth
43:08 <xm> k u got me. i been playing with my race
43:10 <xm> the gook race
43:14 <xm> some koreans i team with
57:38 <Tigger_> cold night, the wind howling, and I have a pizza
58:15 <xm> cold here too
58:19 <xm> i had a lovely nap earlier
58:39 <xm> it was 9 before
59:01 <xm> even colder where you
59:02 <xm> are
59:08 <xm> that's pretty bad for this time of teh year
59:17 <xm> even worse for you tomorrow
00:38 <Tigger_> then I'll have another pizza for tomorrow
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13:48 <Warren1984> xm what do you use to destroy the computer
14:42 <xm> water
14:47 <xm> nah you mean the AI?
14:56 <Warren1984> lol
14:58 <Warren1984> yeah
15:06 <Warren1984> what are those space ships
15:14 <Warren1984> with things flying around them?
15:34 <xm> one of htem is long range, meaning you can keep attacking land and air and you are out of range
15:41 <xm> they cant attack back
15:51 <xm> but they cant attack as often as the larger one, the air carriers
16:08 <xm> the air carriers have those little mini ships that can fly in closer
16:19 <xm> but even if they are destroyed they are cheap to make again
16:39 <xm> the problem with clustering them closely together is that Terran and Protross can screw you over
16:47 <xm> that's why i always set enemies as Zerg
16:53 <xm> as Zerg cant do much about it
17:00 <xm> it requires technology to defeat
17:21 <Warren1984> the zergling rush is good
17:32 <xm> you just practised?
17:36 <Warren1984> have you thought about company of hereos 2?
17:41 <Warren1984> yeah
17:41 <xm> no warren
17:54 <Warren1984> zerglings are really fast
17:58 <xm> id rather play AoE II first
18:09 <xm> do you like CoH II more than SC II?
18:33 <Warren1984> some aspects yes
19:01 <Warren1984> I haven't really learned how to play company of hereos 2 well
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46:44 <xm> Warren1984 / doctor: another game?
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