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36:25 Topic Is: Even Hindus agree “Only Donald Trump can save humanity.”: http://www.livemint.com/Politics/8l4bsrPbld4IynTXiSDEvK/Hindu-Sena-asks-gods-to-help-Donald-Trump-win-US-election.html | Hillary wins the most important demographic of all: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.htm
36:25 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Thu May 12 05:39:20 2016
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11:38 <Tigger_> as social justice gets more 'intersectional', it gets a lot more confusing with who the good/bad guys are supposed to be: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/21/nyregion/in-new-york-thousands-protest-officer-liangs-conviction.html
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24:15 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
25:24 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
25:33 <Warren1984> I got hardly any sleep last night
25:37 <Warren1984> couldn't sleep
25:41 <Tigger_> was it too cold?
25:49 <Warren1984> nuh it's never too cold
26:01 <Tigger_> thinking too much about AOE II?
26:05 <Warren1984> maybe
30:46 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can you be excited to the point of not being able to get to sleep
30:54 <Tigger_> yes
[09:30:54am] (@Tigger_) yes
31:02 <Tigger_> such as if you're getting a new computer tomorrow
31:04 <Warren1984> I think that is what happened last night
31:18 <Warren1984> either excited or obsessed
31:27 <Warren1984> I don't know which one it is
31:36 <Tigger_> what were you excited about?
31:42 <Warren1984> I think AOE
31:48 <Warren1984> and actions per min
32:05 <Warren1984> If I can watch the replays and see what actions you have taken each minute
33:15 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what I have noticed is I can write down steps for something
33:28 <Warren1984> then after a while I sort of know it without looking
33:37 <Tigger_> what were the main things I was doing?
33:40 <Warren1984> or just scanning over it to see if I have missed anything
33:52 <Warren1984> exploring much more than me
34:38 <Warren1984> mining much further away from your base 1st before your own base
34:53 <Warren1984> capturing the first relic within 24mins
35:10 <Warren1984> the problem is you are left guessing what actions you are taking
35:26 <Warren1984> I mean like which upgrades 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc
35:49 <Tigger_> do you want to play now?
36:07 <Warren1984> I remember when I was a little kid and it was christmas I use to get really excited or obsessed to the point where I couldn't sleep
36:16 <Tigger_> I remember that too
36:23 <Tigger_> and waiting for the sun to come up
36:24 <Warren1984> my parents would tell me that santa won't be coming if I don't go to bed
36:52 <Tigger_> Santa is pretty weird like that
36:56 <Warren1984> so I set up a CCT camera and caught my parents in the act
37:04 <Warren1984> nuh the last part was made up
38:47 <Tigger_> I remember looking out the window to see if the sun was coming up, even though my window faced the west
39:40 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what are the 3 most important things in AOE 2?
39:57 <Warren1984> organization, awareness of time and working memory?
40:30 <Tigger_> resource acquisition, defense, and a path to winning
40:38 <Tigger_> so will we play now?
41:16 <Arbition> <Warren1984> Tigger_ what I have noticed is I can write down steps for something
41:16 <Arbition> <Warren1984> then after a while I sort of know it without looking
41:19 <Warren1984> not yet I want to watch the game
41:20 <Warren1984> not yet I want to watch the game
41:27 <Tigger_> ok
41:31 <Arbition> This is what I've been saying about practicing it, so it becomes like muscle memory
41:31 <Warren1984> ahh ar-banger is here
41:36 <Warren1984> but I guess he is at work
41:43 <Arbition> because in an RTS you don't have time to think about every little detail
41:54 <Arbition> yes I'm at work
42:18 <Tigger_> the last turn based strategy game I played was Advance Wars on the Gameboy Advanced (via emulation on the PSP)
42:22 <Warren1984> tell your boss to take a hike
42:25 <Warren1984> and then play
42:51 <Arbition> still don't have the system capable of playing it here
42:54 <Warren1984> starcraft has a timer on it
43:13 <Warren1984> Tigger_ will you buy more games later on
43:25 <Warren1984> when they are on special
43:49 <Tigger_> I tend to like Japanese manic shooters, like Dodonpachi and other Cave games
45:47 <Tigger_> Terraria is the other game I've played the most, over 1000 hours
45:57 <Warren1984> Arbition you still need all the steps
46:08 <Warren1984> because if you don't have them planned out
46:12 <Tigger_> I paid $2.50 for Terraria
46:25 <Warren1984> I guess the aim is not perfection
46:31 <Warren1984> it's just improvement
46:33 <Warren1984> progress
47:16 <Warren1984> you should never have to do what I did and that is recover your base when being attacked or after an attack
47:25 <Warren1984> it really throws you off balance
47:39 <Tigger_> how do you mean?
47:55 <Tigger_> I never actually attacked your base, I left the buildings alone
47:55 <Arbition> yeah, the AI went easy on us
48:02 <Warren1984> well I didn't have much of an army
48:02 <Tigger_> AI is far too easy
48:22 <Warren1984> and my farms and houses were prey to the computer
48:23 <Arbition> we did a land based one
48:37 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can you beat AI on hard?
48:44 <Tigger_> yes, very easily
48:45 <Tigger_> yes, very easily
48:47 <Arbition> seems the AI is kind of lame on islands though
48:54 <Warren1984> no wonder why you are good
49:05 <Warren1984> I wonder even if I can beat AI on medium
50:05 <Tigger_> once I had 6 enemy AI teams on hard all against me, I was on a peninsula, and set up a strong defensive perimeter, with lots and lots of archers and castles. I was able to hold my position, but not counter attack
50:37 <Tigger_> they were just rampaging in, dozens at a time
52:22 <Warren1984> Arbition is it ok to write down problems as you go and then find solutions?
52:45 <Arbition> I don't see why you can't do this during watching a replay
52:47 <Tigger_> actually it was against AI that I first discovered the utility of sending out platoons to kill workers, then run away
52:50 <Arbition> if you had no replays, sure
02:21 <Warren1984> I guess like Arbition says you learn more from playing a hard computer
02:28 <Warren1984> the more you play the more you learn
02:52 <Warren1984> the more notes to self and lists the easier it will be to organize and remember
02:55 <Tigger_> http://www.epictimes.com/05/11/2016/samsung-releases-256gb-microsd/
[10:02:55am] (@Tigger_) http://www.epictimes.com/05/11/2016/samsung-releases-256gb-microsd/
05:25 <Warren1984> the archer is farely hard to play against though
05:41 <Warren1984> because they can pick off workers from a distance
05:58 <Warren1984> and then by the time you get there it's too late to protect them
06:19 <Tigger_> they can often kill a worker with one shot too
06:21 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you should get starcraft 2
06:38 <Tigger_> it's $55 though
06:46 <Warren1984> yeah so
06:50 <Warren1984> you can afford it
06:58 <Tigger_> I am very poor
07:10 <Warren1984> stop playing that game Tigger_
07:13 <Warren1984> u can get it
07:30 <Tigger_> what game?
12:07 <Warren1984> the game of you are poor
12:27 <Tigger_> I would be if I kept buying games
13:25 <Warren1984> you don't have to keep buying them
13:32 <Warren1984> I guess thats the mistake I make
13:50 <Warren1984> not refining my compentence at 1 particular game
14:29 <Warren1984> maybe buy 1 every 3-6 months
14:54 <Warren1984> it's a shame that no new strategy games have come out
14:55 <Warren1984> it's a shame that no new strategy games have come out
15:16 <Warren1984> imagine if they re-made AOE 2 and put it into 4K
17:23 <Tigger_> there is AOE 3, but I don't like it very much
17:42 <Tigger_> it's a lot more limited
23:57 <Warren1984> SC 2 is really good
24:13 <Warren1984> it's a 2010 based game so the graphics are not that demanding
24:27 <Warren1984> u could even run it on low resolution
24:34 <Warren1984> depending on your graphics card
26:04 <Warren1984> Arbition I always try to conduct a linear analysis when watching games
26:22 <Warren1984> but things happen so fast that linear analysis is almost impossible
[10:26:22am] (Warren1984) but things happen so fast that linear analysis is almost impossible
26:58 <Arbition> you can pause during replays
27:04 <Arbition> what do you mean linear analysis though
27:33 <Tigger_> I have never watched a replay
[10:27:33am] (@Tigger_) I have never watched a replay
27:57 <Tigger_> when I lose, it's really because of what I did, not what others did
28:29 <Warren1984> like what happened 1st 2nd 3rd etc
28:41 <Warren1984> you are trying to figure out the others actions
29:11 <Warren1984> so between 00:00 - 01:00 what actions has he taken
29:22 <Tigger_> taking things to slow, not building adequate defenses, not collecting enough resources, or alternately, having the resources and not using them
29:35 <Warren1984> between 01:00 - 02:00 what actions has the other taken
29:49 <Warren1984> but all is not obvious
29:55 <Warren1984> like the order of his upgrades
30:06 <Warren1984> you can see the order of the buildings go up
30:14 <Warren1984> but that is a narrow focus
30:28 <Warren1984> you can see how many workers and where he has explored
30:40 <Warren1984> every given min
30:56 <Warren1984> Tigger_ u should get starcraft 2
31:01 <Warren1984> xm perfers that game
31:14 <Warren1984> and Arbition has it
31:26 <Arbition> idk I prefer AoE
31:33 <Arbition> larger scale
31:39 <Warren1984> more races
31:44 <Arbition> SC2 by design is fast paced and micro intensive
32:07 <Warren1984> fasted paces means paying attention to more APM
32:18 <Warren1984> fasted = fast
32:35 <Warren1984> APM = big picture + details and how fast
32:59 <Arbition> APM allows you to service more priorities
33:58 <Warren1984> micro macro doesn't really matter
34:02 <Warren1984> because you need both
34:11 <Arbition> micro means to finely control the movment and attack of small numbers of units
34:14 <Warren1984> you need to be exacting in your work
34:23 <Warren1984> which is skill
34:32 <Arbition> That's a pretty general statement
34:55 <Warren1984> no
35:12 <Arbition> ok where don't you need to be exacting?
35:20 <Warren1984> the ENTJ is the most productive of all 16 personality types and they are exacting
35:28 <Warren1984> in everything you do
35:40 <Warren1984> in all the details and bigger picture
35:57 <Arbition> Let me rephrase, in what areas is being exacting not an advantage?
36:08 <Tigger_> I prefer to stick to AOE II, as I already know it, and so no pointless busywork in learning the rules and mechanics of a game that's in the same genre anyway
36:45 <Warren1984> it's an advantage in all areas
36:58 <Arbition> right, thus why I say it is a general statement
37:23 <Arbition> it also doesn't really describe much of a process that is directly implementable
37:53 <Warren1984> because the process would need to be broken down
38:02 <Warren1984> analytically
38:23 <Arbition> sure, then you should do the breaking down, rather than repeat the general process all the time, which on its own is not particularly useful
39:12 <Arbition> As we've established, being exacting is an advantageous attribute, so why not excersise it
39:19 <Arbition> what further discussion does the meta of it need
39:26 <Warren1984> because it's not that easy
39:46 <Warren1984> well for me it isn't
39:57 <Arbition> implement, review, refine
[10:39:57am] (Arbition) implement, review, refine
40:19 <Arbition> You talk about being explicit with it all the time
40:35 <Warren1984> you have to be very methodical as well
40:56 <Warren1984> I know all the theory
41:04 <Warren1984> but can't put it into actions
42:07 <Arbition> ok so, why not select something to apply this to
42:15 <Arbition> then we will discuss how to apply it
47:42 <Warren1984> yeah
47:50 <Warren1984> ok
47:52 <Warren1984> thanks
51:59 <Tigger_> you must have clearly defined objectives
52:15 <Tigger_> such as the two major objectives are to defend and attack
53:02 <Tigger_> so then you break it down to how do you want to achieve those objectives
53:50 <Tigger_> such as I defend first, and when my defenses are completely secure, then I work on attack
07:39 <Warren1984> Arbition what does viewlock do?
09:02 <Arbition> It shows you where the player you're focussing on was looking at any particular point in the replay
10:37 <Warren1984> yeah I see now
10:44 <Warren1984> I forgot that detail you told me
10:59 <Warren1984> yeah their conscious thought
11:06 <Warren1984> how many relics are there?
11:16 <Arbition> think there are 5
11:21 <Warren1984> by 45 mins looks like Tigger_ captured 5
11:25 <Arbition> only 3 were captured that game though
12:11 <Tigger_> that's how I won that game, I had all 5 relics
12:20 <Arbition> ah I see
12:27 <Arbition> so not by conquest or resignation
12:39 <Arbition> In your game mode, is building a wonder a winning condition too?
13:04 <Tigger_> yes
13:30 <Tigger_> I built a wonder as well, but the relic win kicked in before the wonder win
15:58 <Warren1984> ahh yeah I think it's much easier to analyze his moves when you have view lock on
16:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_ doesn't expand his base as much as Arbition does
16:50 <Tigger_> I tend to build multiple bases
17:00 <Tigger_> a comic just arrived in the mail for me
17:22 <Warren1984> stupid dentist
17:27 <Warren1984> 3rd time I called
17:38 <Warren1984> first 2 no answer
17:46 <Warren1984> then 3rd hang up sign
32:16 <Tigger_> they must be drunk
40:20 <Warren1984> have to watch the games with viewlock on again
40:24 <Warren1984> so much to remember
40:36 <Warren1984> I mean this time starting with viewlock
41:35 <Tigger_> we could just have a game now
41:47 <Warren1984> yeah but then you won't play later
41:55 <Warren1984> when Arbition is wanting a game
42:21 <Arbition> More games for you then I guess Warren1984
42:32 <Warren1984> true Arbition
[11:42:32am] (Warren1984) true Arbition
42:47 <Warren1984> ok lets play, fuck I can't put all this into my mind
43:06 <Tigger_> ok, I will start
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39:15 <Warren1984> it feels impossible to beat Tigger_
40:56 <Warren1984> Arbition is part of disseminate information to expand a base?
41:28 <Arbition> I don't understand the question
41:50 <Tigger_> Warren1984, don't give up now
42:59 <Warren1984> “Forgetfulness is related to the executive functions in the brain — processes which help us manage, organize, and disseminate information,” according to Stephanie Sarkis, Ph.D, NCC, a psychotherapist who specializes in ADHD.
43:30 <Warren1984> meaning that if you manage organize and disseminate info efficiently then you will win the game
45:31 <Arbition> I can't really say I fully understand. What there is, is priorities and state tracking. You maintain a dependancy graph in your head, and remember where you are up to for each part. With this, you determine how well your priorities are being met
46:38 <Warren1984> disseminate -> spread (something, especially information) widely
46:54 <Warren1984> I don't 100% understand it either
47:05 <Warren1984> but I consider it highly important in winning the game
47:22 <Warren1984> or significantly improving my performance
48:24 <Arbition> the dissemination of information I know better in the context of external communications, I don't grasp its significance in internal processes
49:10 <Warren1984> I assumed base expansion is the distribution of information
49:30 <Arbition> I really don't know
49:32 <Warren1984> imagine a distributer in an old car
49:43 <Warren1984> so you have a 6 cylinder car
50:09 <Warren1984> in the dizzy cap the little thing goes around and creates a spark
[01:50:09pm] (Warren1984) in the dizzy cap the little thing goes around and creates a spark
50:17 <Arbition> I know how a distributer works
50:45 <Arbition> but I still don't follow the metaphor
50:55 <Warren1984> so electricity goes from 1 to 6
51:10 <Warren1984> so if you want to build say archers
51:14 <Arbition> yes I know this part
51:16 <Warren1984> that is 1 idea
51:27 <Warren1984> but you want to spead that idea 6x
51:34 <Warren1984> so 1 becomes 6
51:42 <Warren1984> 6 castles
[01:51:42pm] (Warren1984) 6 castles
51:53 <Warren1984> 6 longbowmen created at once
52:01 <Arbition> If it makes sense to you, that's good, but I still don't see the relation
52:40 <Warren1984> 1 source creates 6 sources
52:51 <Warren1984> If I understand correctly
52:55 <Arbition> I don't see what that has to do with dissemination of information
53:15 <Warren1984> the electricity can be an analogy of the information
53:22 <Tigger_> ok, that is done
53:30 <Tigger_> I didn't have a single relic in that game
54:03 <Warren1984> this hot salami is burning the shit out of my mouth
54:27 <Arbition> but I don't see how parallel construction particularly relates
54:37 <Tigger_> you did much better in that game Warren1984, perhaps your best yet
54:38 <Arbition> not to a mental structure anyway
54:50 <Warren1984> perhaps Tigger_
54:55 <Warren1984> but it was stressful
55:01 <Arbition> That it is
55:03 <Warren1984> yeah I would say I did my best
55:32 <Arbition> When I played both you and tigger, I went and obtained a sugar source, because I knew I would be forcing my brain to run as hard as possible
55:42 <Warren1984> your directing it to the outside world
55:45 <Tigger_> what sugary thing did you have?
55:48 <Warren1984> to a picture
55:59 <Warren1984> sugary?
56:21 <Warren1984> energy drinks
56:22 <Warren1984> coffeee
56:25 <Warren1984> coffee
56:29 <Arbition> Tigger_: you already asked... sour gummy bears and soft drink
56:31 <Warren1984> coffee is cheaper and stronger
56:43 <Arbition> I don't use caffiene
56:53 <Tigger_> I forget easily though
57:01 <Arbition> oh ok
[01:57:01pm] (Arbition) oh ok
57:05 <Tigger_> what about coca cola?
[01:57:05pm] (@Tigger_) what about coca cola?
57:12 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/03/05/9-tips-to-deal-with-forgetfulness-in-adhd/
57:13 <Arbition> I don't like the taste of coca cola
[01:57:13pm] (Arbition) I don't like the taste of coca cola
57:32 <Tigger_> I don't drink tea or coffee, as they seem too grown up for me
57:40 <Warren1984> <@Tigger_> I forget easily though -> “Lists are key to organizing and remembering,”
57:47 <Arbition> I went and got Schweppes Blood Orange
57:59 <Warren1984> Tigger_ doesn't forget easy he just says that to be sarcastic to me
58:15 <Warren1984> Arbition what about 1 heaped tablespoon of coffee with milk only
58:18 <Tigger_> no I do forget, as I ask everyone what lollies they're having, and I get it mixed up
58:27 <Warren1984> I know you don't drink caffinee
58:28 <Arbition> I don't like coffee anyway, too bitter
58:34 <Warren1984> but have you considered the idea
58:39 <Warren1984> bitter
58:42 <Warren1984> what
58:53 <Arbition> I don't like beer either for this reason
59:01 <Arbition> I think I have heightened sensitivity to bitter flavours
59:08 <Tigger_> I've never tried beer, but it sure smells awful
59:15 <Warren1984> make a list of everyones name with a list next to it of what lollies they like Tigger_
59:23 <Tigger_> yes, I should
59:28 <Warren1984> yeah beer tastes like shit
59:33 <Arbition> If I were to make my own beverage, I mix milk and honey
59:33 <Tigger_> in case I have a party, I'll have the right lollies for everyone
59:34 <Warren1984> make a spreadsheet
01:20 <Tigger_> it would have to be a database, one table for people, and another table for the foods they like
[02:01:20pm] (@Tigger_) it would have to be a database, one table for people, and another table for the foods they like
01:56 <Warren1984> what is buildings raised?
02:02 <Arbition> razed
02:05 <Arbition> meaning destroyed
02:20 <Tigger_> I destroyed 150 or so of your buildings
02:59 <Tigger_> I think the nicest drink I've ever had is that apple juice I made the other week
03:06 <Warren1984> the market was much more helpful
03:19 <Tigger_> what did you use it for?
03:52 <Warren1984> gold
04:18 <Tigger_> you had a lot more gold than I did
04:20 <Arbition> Did you research guilds to reduce your trading losses?
04:51 <Tigger_> we didn't do any trading, rather the markets are used for buying stone or selling wood for gold when we run out
04:58 <Arbition> yes I know
05:04 <Tigger_> though I don't usually need it, I keep it as a backup
05:25 <Arbition> but along with being a market mechanism, its normally 20% in either direction, and guilds reduces that to 15
06:05 <Arbition> sorry no, its usually 30%
06:07 <Tigger_> they reduce the price of resource purchases?
06:42 <Arbition> and increase returns for resource sales
06:58 <Arbition> ie an x% trading fee
07:20 <Tigger_> ok, I'll remember to do that
07:22 <Tigger_> thanks
07:42 <Arbition> Available in the Imperial Age, no pre-requisite research
10:09 <Warren1984> Tigger_ now do you understand why I give up on things?
10:28 <Warren1984> or don't do my research properly before buying somethign
10:31 <Warren1984> something
10:38 <Warren1984> i.e. impulsive buying
10:41 <Tigger_> well you should always research before buying something
11:13 <Warren1984> anything that requires strenous mental activity for me is hard
11:27 <Warren1984> that is probably why I have OCD
11:39 <Warren1984> repeat the same thing over and over to get faster at it
11:48 <Tigger_> product research is an important life skill
[02:11:48pm] (@Tigger_) product research is an important life skill
12:09 <Warren1984> yeah but people with ADD have to read things 4 times
12:41 <Warren1984> so reading, playing games anything that is taxing on the mind is hard
13:00 <Warren1984> does your heart start beating faster when the enemy has overwhelmed you
13:01 <Warren1984> does your heart start beating faster when the enemy has overwhelmed you
13:01 <Arbition> There is nothing more powerful than the brain though
13:08 <Warren1984> computer
13:12 <Arbition> so its worth the hardship to be able to think faster
13:27 <Arbition> computers aren't programming themsleves yet
13:41 <Warren1984> but they can do calculations much faster
13:51 <Arbition> sure, highly specialised things
14:18 <Arbition> If you're able to offload to a computer, by all means
14:32 <Tigger_> you had the right idea in some respects, like guarding the bridge over to your land, but I kept sending small platoons to engage your army, and get them to follow me back to where my army was so that your units would be killed when they hit the combined firepower of my army
14:35 <Arbition> but for that which you can't, best to have the brain, which has different strengths
14:53 <Arbition> That is called kiting
15:00 <Tigger_> so it has a name
15:08 <Arbition> There is an option for units to have a 'Defensive Stance' so they won't follow far
15:25 <Arbition> I noticed you were doing it to me
[02:15:25pm] (Arbition) I noticed you were doing it to me
15:31 <Arbition> to try and bring my units to your castle
15:41 <Warren1984> yeah fishing them in
15:49 <Warren1984> you know where you can get heaps of gold
16:05 <Warren1984> you fish all the sea and trade it for gold at the market
16:29 <Tigger_> actually fishing wasn't such a good idea in that game, as it told me where your base was when I saw your fishing ships
16:52 <Arbition> I fish the sea anyway, because food is important early game, and you only have one town centre to make villagers at
[02:16:52pm] (Arbition) I fish the sea anyway, because food is important early game, and you only have one town centre to make villagers at
17:07 <Tigger_> so I went to the very far end and built transport ships to carry 100 of my army units over to attack your base from behind
17:58 <Tigger_> even though you had the bridge well defended
18:47 <Arbition> What map generator did you use?
18:58 <Arbition> Clearly not Islands
19:10 <Tigger_> it was Highlands I think
19:36 <Tigger_> yes
31:00 <Warren1984> no more energy drinks
31:09 <Warren1984> I don't want more fillings
31:17 <Warren1984> need to stay off softdrinks as well
31:31 <Warren1984> but Tigger_ can you see why I quit on things
31:37 <Warren1984> and I do put in effort
31:48 <Tigger_> but you did better that time
32:03 <Warren1984> I am the only 1 at TAFE who comes in with a voice recorder to record everything
32:10 <Warren1984> then listen to it immediately after class
32:20 <Tigger_> you came #3 in the written test
32:21 <Warren1984> then before the next class
32:29 <Warren1984> 2 I think
32:34 <Tigger_> #2
32:35 <Warren1984> can't remember
32:45 <Warren1984> only because of careless mistakes
[02:32:45pm] (Warren1984) only because of careless mistakes
32:57 <Warren1984> nothing to do with me misunderstanding
33:11 <Warren1984> rather than have an all or nothing personality
33:20 <Warren1984> it's better to focus on improvement
35:09 <Tigger_> you should focus on health and money management, so should everyone actually
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24:59 <Warren1984> If I stop buying energy drinks and junk food I am sure I will look after both
29:54 <Warren1984> hell brushed my sore tooth
30:04 <Warren1984> made most of the pain go away
30:21 <Warren1984> I used the 3 small focus brush what ever you call it
31:29 <Tigger_> how much are energy drinks?
31:37 <Warren1984> depends
31:47 <Warren1984> sometimes $6 for 2 litres
31:49 <Tigger_> on average
32:06 <Warren1984> well at coles you can get 15 for $20
32:09 <Tigger_> for a can
32:27 <Warren1984> no for 15x 375ml cans
32:36 <Tigger_> I see
32:49 <Tigger_> how many would you have a day?
32:50 <Tigger_> how many would you have a day?
32:56 <Warren1984> 3 a day
33:18 <Tigger_> 21 per week
33:51 <Warren1984> $20 / 15 x 7=
34:04 <Tigger_> $28
34:31 <Tigger_> $1,456 per year
34:41 <Warren1984> how did you work out $28
34:46 <Warren1984> ahh
34:50 <Warren1984> 3 x 7
36:16 <Tigger_> 20 / 15 = price of one can, multiplied by 3 per day, multiplied by 7 days in a week, multiplied by 52 weeks
38:11 <Tigger_> over 10 years that is $14,560
38:23 <Tigger_> price of a car
46:51 <Tigger_> which reminds me, smokes are supposed to be going up to $40 a packet
47:15 <Warren1984> what is a really good flosser
47:26 <Tigger_> $14,600 a year for a pack a day smoker
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02:36 <Warren1984> shit I should have got my tooth checked earlier
02:51 <Warren1984> I could have an abscess
[05:02:51pm] (Warren1984) I could have an abscess
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54:51 <President_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
56:18 <President_Trump> Marttin when can we expect the first of the nigger pics?
56:37 <Marttin> hmm in about a week
59:38 <President_Trump> excellent
59:42 <President_Trump> this will be a highly anticipated event
00:04 <President_Trump> this will generate as much anticipation as the PD power rankings
04:18 <President_Trump> https://i.sli.mg/4LX29N.jpg
16:57 <Warren1984> can't physically move around it makes me hungry
19:15 <President_Trump> warren have you had cymbalta? there is a mental patient in another channel that uses that
19:23 <President_Trump> says it is really godo
19:25 <President_Trump> good
19:46 <Marttin> where is the monster?
20:26 <President_Trump> she has an oasis/tinder date tonight Marttin
20:40 <Marttin> lol. do you know with who'
20:52 <Marttin> tinder is an app right?
20:57 <Marttin> i dont know about oasis
31:09 <Warren1984> that is cool
31:31 <Warren1984> on my motherboard it has a digital LED signal say AA
31:42 <Warren1984> must be the diagnostic thing
32:47 <Warren1984> July 10th I think is when windows 10 expires
43:28 <Warren1984> http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/features/plaque-causes
43:53 <Warren1984> Step 4: Avoid Sticky, Sugary Food
44:07 <President_Trump> remind me closer to july 10 warren
45:14 <Warren1984> you have windows 10 though
45:35 <Warren1984> where is tigger?
45:37 <President_Trump> no i dont
45:41 <Warren1984> I mean windows 7
46:05 <President_Trump> you can upgrade for free, u stupid?
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59:31 <Warren1984> until july 10
59:55 <Warren1984> and even if you have it free now you still need to pay for it on july 10
02:08 <Warren1984> that salty water is giving my tooth a bit of a sting
02:09 <President_Trump> no you dont its a free upgrade forever on that device
02:20 <Warren1984> where does it say that?
02:29 <President_Trump> that's been the deal since the start
04:38 <Warren1984> http://www.techspot.com/article/1002-windows-10-free-or-not-explained/
06:15 <Warren1984> If you don't have a Windows license to upgrade from, you can either buy Windows 10 or you can keep using Windows 10 as an Insider. Microsoft plans to continue the Insider program after Windows 10 ships. This means you can keep using Windows 10 Preview builds (even if they are exactly as the final release) and subsequent builds in the Fast and Slow ring. These builds have an expiration
06:16 <Warren1984> If you don't have a Windows license to upgrade from, you can either buy Windows 10 or you can keep using Windows 10 as an Insider. Microsoft plans to continue the Insider program after Windows 10 ships. This means you can keep using Windows 10 Preview builds (even if they are exactly as the final release) and subsequent builds in the Fast and Slow ring. These builds have an expiration
06:16 <Warren1984> date, but as the Insider program continues, you can just keep getting newly updated builds and automated extensions of your Windows install indefinitely, as long as Microsoft doesn't pull the plug on the beta testing program.
06:39 <Warren1984> so windows 10 is still a beta
06:40 <President_Trump> Windows 10 will come as a free upgrade from Windows 8.1, Windows 8, Windows Phone 8.1 and Windows 7 for the first year. Once a device is upgraded to Windows 10, it’ll be supported for the lifetime of the device.
07:33 <Warren1984> that is why it's so annoying and keeps crashing
07:44 <Warren1984> not so much anymore
07:50 <Warren1984> for the past monh
07:52 <Warren1984> month
09:11 <Warren1984> Microsoft under Satya Nadella is rapidly changing, and Windows as a service appears to be next. The company has already talked about moving away from big Windows releases in favor of smaller incremental updates that continually evolve the operating system. They have gone as far as calling it the last version of Windows.
10:29 <President_Trump> they want to make windows a subscription service
10:31 <President_Trump> paid yearly
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13:37 <Warren1984> hey cortana get fucked
14:25 Quit: cita ([email protected]) Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
16:24 <Warren1984> what if you call cortana a slut?
16:43 <Warren1984> hey cortana will you be my bitch
17:51 <Warren1984> tigger slaps cortana
20:32 <Warren1984> President_Trump -> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/tweed-heads-firies-use-angle-grinder-to-free-mans-penis-from-ring-spanner/news-story/a4927c224080aae448c1bac81e95cb64
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22:29 <Warren1984> Tweed Heads firies use angle grinder to free man’s penis from ring spanner
23:46 <Warren1984> Tweed firefighters say it not uncommon for them to be called to such jobs where people leave it too late to ask for help.
23:46 <Warren1984> “It’s really dangerous because inevitably people leave it too long to come see us because they are embarrassed, or say my wife said to put butter on it, sleep on it and it will go down,” said senior firefighter Peter Sutherland.
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14:02 <circle> twee heads is so shit
14:05 <circle> too many apartments
15:50 <President_Trump> circle any updates on the canberra coal burner?
16:33 <Ethanol> who is that?
18:39 <President_Trump> a hockey player from canberra who circle who is in love with who is dating a nigger
19:53 <President_Trump> he is going to ring up her father and talk to him about the situation
19:57 <Ethanol> and despite knowing this, circle is still in love with her?
19:59 <President_Trump> there are pics
31:44 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australia-has-reached-the-point-of-no-return-its-time-to-forget-about-making-stuff/news-story/a9be2733741e638f1aff3addaf436242
32:09 <Warren1984> AUSTRALIA, say goodbye to being a country that makes things.
32:10 <Warren1984> Our houses are already full of stuff and we don’t want more. The few things we do want are made cheaply in China.
32:10 <Warren1984> Making things is officially over. We are now a country whose economy is about doing things and helping people.
34:04 <President_Trump> you only just worked that out?
40:02 <Warren1984> what do you mean?
40:04 <Warren1984> Caitlyn Jenner may ‘detransition back to Bruce after suffering from sex change regret’ claims longtime friend.
46:08 <Warren1984> where is that cunt tigger
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12:22 <Lish> Losers
12:36 <President_Trump> heat?
12:55 <President_Trump> url please
13:11 <Lish> Url to what
13:17 <Lish> Spurs are out
13:19 <President_Trump> scores coz u cant read
13:52 <Lish> Heat haven't played again
13:59 <Lish> Plus I look on my app
14:55 <President_Trump> how good is this pic Lish
14:56 <President_Trump> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/06/01/33E20D3C00000578-0-image-a-15_1462493165510.jpg
15:28 <Lish> Nice hat
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17:59 <Lish> Hmm
20:44 <President_Trump> lish when is game 6 pedo
21:45 <President_Trump> on espn tomorrow
21:51 <Lish> Tomorrow
21:53 <President_Trump> 10.30
21:54 <Lish> 10am
22:01 <Lish> App says 10!
22:11 <President_Trump> doesnt matter if i miss it i can watch game 7
23:38 <Lish> Indeed
24:31 <President_Trump> then 2 x 4 game sweeps
24:45 <Lish> Haha
27:30 <Warren1984> Lish have you ever had a mintie pull out a filling?
28:16 <Warren1984> President_Trump?
28:43 <President_Trump> i think i had a toffee thing once do that
28:47 <President_Trump> i hate those things that stick to your teeth
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29:29 <Lish> I hate minties
29:31 <Warren1984> what about those things that stick in your stinker
29:39 <Warren1984> I think that is what happened
29:48 <Warren1984> a mintie pulled a filling out
30:14 <President_Trump> if it came out the tooth around it decayed so it fell out
30:40 <Warren1984> fillings suck
30:46 <Warren1984> i envy kids these days
30:56 <President_Trump> what do kids have?
31:12 <Warren1984> I wish I knew how to clean my teeth properly as a child and had a good electric toothbrush
31:19 <Warren1984> better dental
31:37 <President_Trump> do u floss?
31:40 <Warren1984> yes
31:42 <Warren1984> waterpik
31:48 <President_Trump> a waterpik is rubbish
31:54 <President_Trump> u need to scrape the surface of the tooth
31:56 <Warren1984> no it's better than floss
32:00 <President_Trump> not its not
32:08 <Warren1984> don't have a scraper
32:15 <President_Trump> floss scrapes it
32:18 <Warren1984> a metal scraper?
32:26 <President_Trump> forget it
32:31 <Warren1984> floss doesn't go as deep
32:53 <Warren1984> the idea is to remove debris from between your teeth and gums
32:59 <Warren1984> and the waterpik works better
33:02 <President_Trump> you ruin your gums going deep
33:06 <Warren1984> why do dentists use it then?
33:49 <President_Trump> to get chucks of food out
34:11 <Warren1984> that is what dental floss does
34:35 <President_Trump> forget it
34:47 <Warren1984> dental floss is for povos
34:54 <Warren1984> who can't afford a waterpik
35:02 <President_Trump> waterpik is for losers
35:17 <Warren1984> show me where is says dental floss is better
35:24 <President_Trump> im not showing u anything
35:28 <President_Trump> go find out yourself
36:41 <Warren1984> https://www.waterpik.com/oral-health/blog/dental-floss-vs-water-flossers/
37:20 <President_Trump> lol
37:26 <President_Trump> from waterpik.com
37:29 <President_Trump> im not clicking that
38:12 <President_Trump> A Waterpik doesn't remove plaque from teeth as well as floss. "Flossing scrapes off the sticky film of bacteria, while a Waterpic just rinses it," Hayes explains. MayoClinic.com says using a Waterpik isn't a substitute for flossing.
38:25 <President_Trump> that is obvious
38:29 <Warren1984> Is it more effective to floss teeth with a water pick or standard dental floss?
38:30 <Warren1984> Answers from Alan Carr, D.M.D.
38:30 <Warren1984> Standard dental floss is generally considered the most effective tool for cleaning the tight spaces between the teeth. You can also use dental floss to scrape up and down the sides of each tooth.
38:30 <Warren1984> A water pick (oral irrigator) is a device that aims a stream of water at your teeth. A water pick can help remove food particles from your teeth and might help reduce bleeding and gum disease — but it isn't generally considered a substitute for brushing and flossing.
38:35 <Warren1984> looks like I am wrong
38:35 <shugenja_> Trump appeals to bullies
39:38 <Warren1984> the dental hygenist said for me to go between teeth
40:25 <President_Trump> tell your dental hygenist President_Trump said to use floss
44:35 <Warren1984> flossing is hard though
44:42 <Warren1984> hurts your finger
44:45 <Warren1984> fingers
45:07 <President_Trump> stop trolling warren
52:26 <Warren1984> floss removes debris from your teeth as well
53:01 <Warren1984> the dental hygienst uses a water like thing with some metal thing
53:08 <Warren1984> underneath the gumline
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25:24 <IvanTheBastard> Hello Friends
29:41 <Glenn> You have some...?
29:49 <Glenn> :)
29:52 <Arbition> 'ello
29:54 <IvanTheBastard> no :~(
30:03 <Arbition> I'll be yer friend
31:37 <IvanTheBastard> :~(
36:31 <Glenn> Look's like you have one. :)
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12:37 <IvanTheBastard> Lishyyyyy
13:21 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCUbFJeRfME
13:25 <BlackDevil> Youtube: How Saudi Arabia Financed Global Terror (Feb 5, 2015) Length: 23:44 - Category: News & Politics - 93,781 views views - 537 likes (70.1%), 229 dislikes (29.9%)
13:39 <Microsoft> Lol I just registered stoned.evilsoul.net
13:55 <Microsoft> gonna use that vhost on irc ;D
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20:51 <erlich> ey wazza
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25:14 <President_Trump> PSYC^WARD^CALL^CENTRE^GENIUS your brother voting TRUMP?
25:16 <Microsoft> hey mental
25:36 <Microsoft> PSYC^WARD^CALL^CENTRE^GENIUS has lost heaps tonight
25:49 <President_Trump> PSYC^WARD^CALL^CENTRE^GENIUS bet on the field vs leicester
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26:08 <Microsoft> nah he bets on bangladesh
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26:17 <Microsoft> in the last ICC WC
27:06 <President_Trump> https://i.sli.mg/29ZMfu.gif
34:09 <President_Trump> TRUMP WANTS TO DEPORT MEXICANS; HE WANTS MUSLIMS TO WEAR IDENTIFICATION
39:01 <Warren1984> President_Trump are you interested in a bin laden documentary?
39:20 <President_Trump> no
39:54 <Warren1984> why?
40:14 <Warren1984> I reckon in Arab countries they have gaysex but don't dare speak about it
55:11 <Warren1984> why did osama bin laden change tactics from fighting soviets to fighting america
59:34 <President_Trump> https://i.sli.mg/xhCKS0.png
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