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00:01:24 * xstevia is cruising up the canal again
00:26:27 <K> !coffee steve30
00:26:27 * EEVBot pours coffee down steve30's throat
00:52:18 <xstevia> Whats the big deal with student politics?
00:53:20 <xstevia> I just went in the university building to use the toilet and was innundated with posters advertising people for the student elections
01:00:10 <arch> i'll vote for ya, but you gotta shake my willy after i'm done peeing
01:03:47 <K> *bonk*
01:19:52 * xstevia ponders going to the cafe
01:20:50 <K> wht in cafe?
01:24:38 <xstevia> !coffee
01:24:39 * EEVBot hooks xstevia up to a coffee IV
01:24:48 <xstevia> mmm
01:32:03 <K> cake?
01:41:05 <xstevia> mmm, cake
01:42:37 <xstevia> Ooh, just got over 1gbps on 5g
01:52:24 * arch sinks electrohead in a pool tube with a blowdart
01:52:33 <K> stinks
01:53:40 <electrohead> hey
01:53:48 * electrohead noogies arch, makes K watch
01:54:00 <electrohead> !coffee xstevia
01:54:01 * EEVBot drowns xstevia in coffee
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02:54:38 * xstevia purrs at electrohead
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07:45:29 <K> hey rusty, that japanese bolt-lenghtener thing - actually useful.
07:46:19 <rust_collector> bolt stretcher?
07:52:54 <K> cutter
07:53:15 <K> needed a bunch of 7mm M3
07:53:27 <rust_collector> well, yeah
07:53:53 <K> and they say impulse purchases never work out
07:53:55 <K> ha!
07:54:16 <rust_collector> who?
07:54:23 <K> thems!
07:54:27 <K> u know
07:54:51 <K> ppl who write comments in youtube videos
07:57:02 <rust_collector> them, in youtube comments, either means enyone different, or jews, depending on if their lack of hair is natural or chosen
07:58:44 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OesNZ7lSf2I?feature=share
07:58:44 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨“Painkiller” (Judas Priest) in the style of Bob Dylan #bobdylan #judaspriest #heavymetal #funny⁩ | 1m 56s | Channel: ⁨Max V Bolton Music⁩ | 285 views | 2026-03-11 - 15:30:42 UTC
07:59:02 <rust_collector> this, otoh, is just as horrible as I would imagine it would be
07:59:37 <K> yes, points to rust_collector
08:00:14 <rust_collector> i feel pointy now
08:30:28 <arch> rust_collector, lol
08:30:41 <arch> > them, in youtube comments, either means enyone different, or jews, depending on if their lack of hair is natural or chosen
08:31:29 <arch> what if they wanted to be polite and refer to transgender folks in a non-gender specific way
08:32:34 <rust_collector> well, those who cut the hair off, had to stop using the ((( thing, because the ultra geeks who do stuff in lisp...well, they sent some kind of message
08:33:58 <rust_collector> well, if they want to be polite... I dunno.
08:41:32 <Ysjoelfir> pff.... being polite... who needs that anyways?
09:06:33 <arch> hey! fuck you... and i'll see you tomorrow
09:08:38 <K> no u
09:35:50 * electrohead places potats all around arch
09:59:31 <MrMobodies> Hello
09:59:37 <MrMobodies> Feeling absolutely miserable
09:59:45 <MrMobodies> I believe it is the cold
09:59:52 <MrMobodies> the headache is gone
10:00:38 <MrMobodies> there is nothing bad enough to feel this miserable about.
10:01:11 <MrMobodies> I am hoping to get better from tomorrow
10:01:47 <MrMobodies> went to the local pub earlier, which opens from Wednesday to Sunday and had to come back quick to go to toilet due to the cold
10:02:03 <MrMobodies> well a poor stomach
10:02:51 Quit: flyback ([email protected]) The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.
10:03:36 <MrMobodies> Anyone got the cold?
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11:01:25 <MrMobodies> put in a psu without -5v and the ISA sound card seems unaffected.
11:02:36 <MrMobodies> yep, even the onboard sound connected to the mixer causes the noise on the isa
11:02:45 <MrMobodies> looks like i can't plug anything else in
11:03:41 <MrMobodies> last one to try is the usb sound cards then I'll decide whether or not to return the motheroard
13:26:58 <arch> how much does it hurt chips when they operate at 160C? for example i've seen many switching ICs have an overtemperature shutdown around 160C and hysteresis of maybe 20C, so they'll start back up at 140C.
13:27:35 <arch> i've managed to do it for a few sot-23-6 buck regs myself, when they were placed in an extremely tiny pcb area
13:47:32 <electrohead> I heard it makes the electrons scream
13:48:57 * arch tortures electrohead to make his electrons scream
13:50:51 <electrohead> lol
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13:53:43 <Nothing\> oy, 150 bloody gb to install this damn gamn
13:54:24 <Nothing\> i dare say it's the biggest i've ever encountered. It only takes up nearly 10% of my total space
13:55:14 <Nothing\> and internal SSDs haven't got cheap enough yet
14:05:27 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
14:13:09 <Halcyon> What's an easy way to discharge coin cells for disposal? Reckon just short them out for a bit?
14:13:17 <Halcyon> They are old and a little bit crusty
14:13:52 <MrMobodies> 150GB for a game? Wow, that's a new one.
14:14:09 <MrMobodies> what game is it?
14:14:32 <Halcyon> Oh actually disregard. Apparently the bins at the supermarket take them
14:15:06 <MrMobodies> oh yes, they have those here as well at supermarkets
14:15:36 <Halcyon> Wasn't sure if they took small cells, but they do.
14:15:54 <Halcyon> Usually I've dropped off Lipo packs in there
14:16:06 <MrMobodies> I rememember at the recycling center a few years ago they built this new section just for lithium batteries incase they catch fire
14:16:52 <MrMobodies> I have a few swollens ones under a pot in the garden which is due to be taken there
14:17:29 <Halcyon> I'm still surprised they have those disposal bins inside the stores. Granted they are at the entrance or near a window, but still.
14:19:14 <MrMobodies> Halycon, do you use Pfsense?
14:19:51 <Halcyon> I do indeed
14:20:29 <MrMobodies> I am looking for a solution, if it could be done with pfsense
14:21:11 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/R97SpBG2/keene-IR-IP-routing.jpg
14:22:11 <MrMobodies> Keene IR plugin (4 of them) points to virtual IP on pfsense which gets forwarded to the Keene Matrix but it must look like it comes from the source address (set in the Keene Ir plugin)
14:22:25 <MrMobodies> ooops 4 virtual IP's I mean
14:24:48 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/WpbH7gXf/Keene-IRpluin.jpg
14:25:38 <MrMobodies> I could copy all the IR codes and use the tool to insert what output but that't be a lot of work
14:26:46 <Halcyon> It is a multicast thing on a network segment?
14:26:48 <MrMobodies> but if I can set the IP addresses on the unit, associate them to what IR output, set them up on KeeneIR then use Pfsense to pass it through and make it look like it is coming
14:27:03 <MrMobodies> from a certain ip
14:27:27 <Halcyon> So it listens for commands from a source, and re-broadcasts them over a network?
14:28:42 <MrMobodies> I see
14:28:52 <Halcyon> It's not very clear to me how that works. I thought they were port numbers, but apparently not
14:29:20 <Halcyon> Those source addresses seem to be more of a blacklist, more than anything
14:29:33 <Halcyon> So by default, anything can control everything.
14:32:34 <MrMobodies> I am sorry I don't think I explained well enought what I am trying to do
14:32:34 <Halcyon> What's the network setup like? Is everything on a single subnet, or is there a dedicated network or VLAN for IR controllers?
14:32:38 <MrMobodies> aaah
14:32:46 <MrMobodies> yes there are many
14:32:56 <Halcyon> Many networks or hosts?
14:32:59 <MrMobodies> in fact 'll get the map which might help for this thing i want to do
14:33:00 <MrMobodies> yes
14:33:05 <electrohead> !coffee Halcyon
14:33:05 <Halcyon> Hahah OK
14:33:05 * EEVBot slides a cup of joe to Halcyon
14:33:08 <Halcyon> Heyyyy electrohead
14:33:11 <electrohead> \o/
14:33:12 <EEVBot> I
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14:35:48 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/kq552HFQ/Lan.jpg
14:37:01 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/HYHYdvkQ/PFsense.jpg
14:37:01 <MrMobodies> I thought it might help
14:37:51 <MrMobodies> The KeeneIR is a network infrared transmitter and receiver
14:38:07 <MrMobodies> the Matrix unit has 4 IR inputs and outputs
14:38:24 <Halcyon> Holy fuck
14:38:25 <MrMobodies> I could set what IP address goes to what IR port
14:38:40 <MrMobodies> I could use 4 virtual machines with 4 ip's
14:39:04 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/wgt7WPyD/IRrouting.jpg
14:39:22 <Halcyon> So my question is, is the Matrix and the IR transmitter that it will be addressing, all on the same network?
14:39:28 <MrMobodies> 192.168.11.11 Outputs 0001
14:39:33 <MrMobodies> 192.168.11.12 Outputs 0010
14:39:42 <MrMobodies> 192.168.11.13 Outputs 0100
14:39:49 <MrMobodies> 192.168.11.14 Outputs 1000
14:39:54 <MrMobodies> oh yes
14:40:05 <MrMobodies> yes it has a network port
14:40:05 <Halcyon> That really annoys me that you didn't do it the other way around :P
14:40:14 <Halcyon> .11 outputs bank 1
14:40:21 <Halcyon> .12 output bank 2 etc...
14:40:28 <MrMobodies> yes
14:41:40 <Halcyon> Anyway, I digress. So as long as you configure the matrix like you have above, then you can independently control 4 banks of IR TX. I don't see why you would need to make any changes on pfsense, if they are all already on the 192.168.11.0/24 segment
14:41:57 <MrMobodies> I need to make it look like the packets are coming from the source address above to take advantage of it's IR routing
14:42:16 <MrMobodies> using one Eventghost and many plugins with the above ip addresses
14:42:31 <MrMobodies> now this is where I think Pfsense might help,
14:42:54 <Halcyon> Do the transmitters not just listen for all commands on the network and wait for the one addressed to them? Do you need to manually specify the source address to listen to?
14:43:10 <MrMobodies> using a virtual IP, 192.168.11.11 in way that when it is sent, the Keene IR see's that as the source, not the wan address on the lan
14:43:21 <MrMobodies> oooh
14:43:41 <MrMobodies> this I use to send out IR codes to control disco lights
14:43:44 <Halcyon> It seems odd you would need to define IPs on BOTH ends, seems wasteful
14:44:46 <MrMobodies> it's also wasteful if I had to copy 20 to 30 buttons a remote, in the Keeene IR tool to define it and make another folder for a particiular ir output
14:45:16 <MrMobodies> or create 4 virtual machines wth the source IP
14:45:32 <Halcyon> Perhaps I'm not really wrapping my head around this gear properly, so not sure how much I can help. I imagined it to be almost like a DMX set up with addressing, but over IP
14:45:49 <MrMobodies> oh yes, it does involve that but not for the Keene IR thing
14:46:05 <MrMobodies> so
14:46:27 <MrMobodies> what that does, that network Ir routing table
14:46:43 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/brmxrZKR/image.png
14:47:23 <Halcyon> I understand that bit, I think, the matrix is addressing banks of up to 4 transmitter modules?
14:47:30 <MrMobodies> Lets say I have 4 computers with Eventghost (all with different remote control IR codes via the built in webserver)
14:47:33 <MrMobodies> oh nonooon
14:47:45 <MrMobodies> it has individual 4 outputs
14:47:54 <MrMobodies> oh sorry addressable outputs
14:48:10 <MrMobodies> so I can send a an IR code from a button a webpage to say PORT 3
14:48:17 <MrMobodies> and it'd go to an IR dongle
14:48:49 <Halcyon> Right, so the source address on the matrix, relates to a PC controller of some sort?
14:49:10 <MrMobodies> yes
14:49:13 <MrMobodies> that's it
14:49:19 <Halcyon> So PC > Matrix > IR Transmitters ?
14:49:20 <MrMobodies> I got a picture of the unit
14:49:29 <MrMobodies> yes
14:49:47 <Halcyon> Right, now I understand
14:50:08 <Halcyon> Again, the question is, if everything is on the same subnet, why wouldn't that work?
14:51:00 <Halcyon> And to blacklist everything else you would set source address 0.0.0.0 to outputs 0000
14:53:39 <steve30> o/
14:53:39 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
14:53:39 <Halcyon> I had a Rolo last night
14:53:39 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/YtD7J2JJ/Keene-Matrix.jpg
14:53:39 <MrMobodies> yes it would
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15:36:32 <MrMobodies> Computer IP 192.168.11.2... webpage button pressed -> Keene IR plugin #1 to go out of - > 192.168.11.11 -> VIP pfsense -> forwarded to Keene Matrix 192.168.11.3 (sees source address as 192.168.11.11) then tramsits ir code on port 1
15:37:00 <MrMobodies> Computer IP 192.168.11.2... webpage button pressed -> Keene IR plugin #2 to go out of - > 192.168.11.12 -> VIP pfsense -> forwarded to Keene Matrix 192.168.11.3 (sees source address as 192.168.11.12) then tramsits ir code on port 2
15:37:15 <MrMobodies> Computer IP 192.168.11.2... webpage button pressed -> Keene IR plugin #1 to go out of - > 192.168.11.13 -> VIP pfsense -> forwarded to Keene Matrix 192.168.11.3 (sees source address as 192.168.11.13) then tramsits ir code on port 3
15:37:19 <MrMobodies> and so o
15:37:44 <MrMobodies> sorry about all of this
15:41:28 <MrMobodies> For example if ony I could set 192.168.11.11 TO 192.168.11.14 on computer 192.168.11.2. Bind Eventghost to those IP'S and specify in the Keene IR plugin what IP within 11 - 14 it should leave to get sent to the Keene IR matrix
15:41:59 <Halcyon> But what differentiates the different buttons? Like is it by port number? Is there a command that's sent?
15:42:32 <Halcyon> Or it is just IR on/off, nothing more.
15:43:05 <MrMobodies> nonno nothing like that
15:43:11 <MrMobodies> Eventghost ha sa built in webserver
15:43:29 <MrMobodies> I capture the IR code with the Keen matrix plugin it has a receiver)
15:43:45 <MrMobodies> on event it triggers an action
15:43:54 <MrMobodies> I'll get the picture of what it is doing
15:53:22 <MrMobodies> here
15:53:23 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/3Y8r0q7Q/Eventghost-wth-Keene-Ir-Plugins.jpg
15:53:41 <MrMobodies> this is how it works with one Keene IR plugin
15:54:36 <MrMobodies> press no2 on that remote, URL event appears, and for that one I select Keene IR plugin 2 and goes out of that unit. That's for the single Keene Ir's I have
15:57:47 <Halcyon> Yeah I'm not too sure. I'm sure I could figure it out if I was there, but without seeing the gear, how it works etc... it's just hard to come up with a solution
16:00:18 <MrMobodies> sorry about that
16:00:27 <MrMobodies> thanks for your help
16:00:43 <MrMobodies> it's would a miracle at this moment to get that working in a way
16:01:56 <MrMobodies> I have 3 Keene IR transmitters (SINGLE transmitter), and one matrix (FOUR addressable transmitters)
16:02:47 <MrMobodies> you can send an IR code intended for certain outputs between 1 to 4 (BY IP ADDRESS SOURCE)
16:03:49 <MrMobodies> so it'd USE (the source address) to determine WHICH IR port (out of the four) to send the IR code
16:03:56 <MrMobodies> or by machine
16:04:01 <MrMobodies> see the limitation?
16:08:05 <MrMobodies> so if I set the Keene Ir plugin to send it some virtual IP address on Pfsense (instead of the Keene IR unit) and then pfsense forwards) to the Matrix unit on some address I list in this table
16:08:06 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/R97SpBG2/keene-IR-IP-routing.jpg
16:08:12 <MrMobodies> Say source address 2
16:08:31 <MrMobodies> and set the output for output 0100
16:11:11 <MrMobodies> 8 computer IP addresses can be specified and linked to any of the four outputs.
16:12:02 <MrMobodies> but what if I want to set the outputs and address them from one computer with one IP address
16:12:15 <MrMobodies> that's the problem I was trying to word
16:13:56 <MrMobodies> https://web.archive.org/web/20190821180107/https://info.keene-electronics.co.uk/ircommander/index.html
16:13:58 <EEVBot> [url] index | web.archive.org
16:15:46 <MrMobodies> "Routing Each IR input may be routed to any or all of the IR outputs"... BY IP ADDRESS SOURCE
16:16:27 <MrMobodies> listed on that Network IR routing table page
16:21:19 <MrMobodies> Thanks for helping and trying.
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19:21:34 <AustGuest3587> hello there, does anyone knows soldering thing?
19:21:47 <AustGuest3587> *know
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19:48:49 * steve30 solders
19:54:37 <K> hello rj11 connectors
19:56:23 <K> !solder steve30
19:56:29 <K> !coffee steve30
19:56:29 * EEVBot slides a cup of joe to steve30
19:57:04 <steve30> mmm, lead
19:57:11 <steve30> also, mmm, coffee