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01:55:11 <watcher> Hello
02:04:22 <Kuschelpony> hello hello
02:07:13 <watcher> whats up Kuschelpony
02:07:30 <Kuschelpony> hmm,noithing yet
02:10:26 * arch shines a laser on electrohead, accidentally causes a friendly fire incident with another fighter jet
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02:12:36 <arch> how big of a problem is it if i route feedback trace near a SHIELDED inductor of a buck regulator?
02:12:59 <arch> there will be a ground plane surrounding the inductor as well, including underneath the inductor
02:16:36 <Kuschelpony> should be close to zero problem when shielded AND with the groundplane
02:17:28 <Kuschelpony> its unshilelded inductors that surprise people, when they induce amperes of circulating currents into "ground" planes
02:18:46 <arch> excellent
02:20:27 <arch> im using a buck regulator that is different from my usual favorite pick, the TPS562201. in this case i am using the TLMR51610, which has a kind of annoying pinout
02:20:44 <arch> LMR51610*
03:13:56 <arch> Kuschelpony, here is what my layout looks like: https://imgur.com/a/eMzRb1z notice the blue trace is the feedback, routed about 3mm away from the shielded inductor
03:14:34 <arch> if you're wondering why it's an island, i'm making it on copperclad pcb, so i've carved out large pads/islands that will have magnet wire routed
03:14:44 <Kuschelpony> i check soon
03:33:33 <Kuschelpony> my suggestion is, rotarte the IC 90° counter-clockwise and move it right under pad1 of the coil, then it might work easier to route the feedback trace over the lower of the board, and the ground plane "tongue" under the ic connects better to the central area of the board
03:43:26 <arch> you mean route feedback underneath inductor?
03:50:29 <Kuschelpony> i meant around the lower part of the board, instead the upper half
03:55:48 <arch> i can't put it at the lower part of the board, because i have to route overhead wires to the EN pin and VCC pins
03:55:56 <Kuschelpony> ok
03:56:41 <arch> i think it should be ok, didnt have issues with single layer 600khz buck regs. this one's operating at 1MHz
04:08:54 <flyback> heh
04:09:13 <flyback> I got this cute little backup cam 4.3 lcd for $0.50
04:09:20 <flyback> composite analog input
04:09:22 <flyback> pretty cool
04:09:29 <flyback> I think it's 800x480
04:10:13 <flyback> insteresting the analog to digital controller ic inside has a embedded 8051 and people wrote firmware for it to do more video modes
04:11:40 <flyback> also stumbled on using a 75ls123 to seperate the h-sync and v-sync signals out of a composite signal, pretty slick trick
04:11:50 <flyback> they also have some dedicated chips for doing that also
04:12:10 <flyback> I guess some types of monitors need seperate signals
04:15:23 <Kuschelpony> principially every monitor needs the sync signal seperated somewhere, some have a seperator buitlin
04:19:05 <flyback> neat though they can use digital chips to deal with analog signals
04:19:12 <flyback> I mean I get it with adc's and stuff
04:20:52 <Kuschelpony> digital logic is just analog amplifier driven into saturation, with carefully prepared crosstalk routes
04:23:09 <flyback> I wish I could come up with a better way to test usb cables other than just running a bit pattern check on usb hard drives over and over and look for bit flips
04:23:19 <flyback> but scopes that can read usb etc are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
04:23:43 <flyback> I like usb despite some shortcomings it was really well designed
04:25:17 <flyback> in terms of transactions, etc
04:25:52 <flyback> how it's designed to have 127 devices on the same bus, things like hot plug, etc
04:28:31 <flyback> yeah there's stuff out there that is better but it's not bad
04:28:34 <flyback> considering
04:30:39 <flyback> now you can get plenty of mcu's with a usb bus or use one of those spi usb controllers, and have 12mbit usb on your project
04:31:56 <flyback> 12mbit is plenth fast for a lot of embeded projects
04:34:36 <flyback> plus it's cool to be able to just string together some existing consumer level products in a pinch over usb
04:36:04 <flyback> hopefully later on this year I will get to start setting up a proper electronics bench and start learning
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04:57:22 <arch> looking pretty good. -5V buck on the right side, and +15V buck on the left side: https://i.imgur.com/etD7IXx.png
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05:48:16 <flyback> what the canuck- still uses -5 except legacy circuitsd
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06:00:41 <electrohead> arch lol
06:00:55 * electrohead stabs flyback with a canuck
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06:16:36 Nick: k is now known as K
06:18:01 <K> hello barn animals
06:18:06 <Ampera> hi k
06:18:12 <Ampera> how are things
06:18:18 <K> passable
06:18:26 <K> it is +6C outside
06:18:35 <K> which is nice. and all the fucking snow is almost gone
06:18:41 <K> the fucker.
06:19:00 <Ampera> snow made just for fucking?
06:19:32 <Ampera> https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/tDTGf3fpS4xS7a7/preview
06:19:34 <K> dont know for what it is made, but it can - fuck off
06:19:35 <Ampera> I have a new lens
06:20:49 <K> long dingus
06:25:58 <electrohead> oi
06:27:33 * Ampera hugs electrohead
06:27:35 <Ampera> sparkykopf <3
06:28:31 * electrohead counter hugs
06:28:49 <electrohead> I was supposed to hit 'a' and then tab, fail
06:29:07 <electrohead> Amperakopf <3
06:33:46 <K> SPORKY
06:35:30 * electrohead is now sporkmaster
06:42:39 <Kuschelpony> today i learned: electric powered bacteria https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25894-meet-the-electric-life-forms-that-live-on-pure-energy/
06:42:40 <EEVBot> [url] Meet the electric life forms that live on pure energy | New Scientist | www.newscientist.com
06:51:28 <MrMobodies> Hello
06:53:34 <MrMobodies> I remembering being told by someone that certain bugs can resist high voltage where certain things in hospitals used to be sterilized by electricity but the bugs survivied.
06:54:03 <MrMobodies> Can someone please explain to me:
06:54:06 <MrMobodies> https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16385005
06:54:07 <EEVBot> [url] Japan to ban in-flight use of power banks starting in April | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis | www.asahi.com
06:54:31 <MrMobodies> I see two conflicting statements:
06:54:51 <MrMobodies> (1) "The new rule will *limit passengers to a total of two spare batteries*, including power banks."
06:55:14 <MrMobodies> (2) "While there is *no limit on the number of spare batteries below 100 watt-hours*, carrying power banks exceeding 160 watt-hours will remain prohibited."
06:56:30 <MrMobodies> I am confused by those two stateents. (1) Limit passengers to 2 spare batteries. (2) no limit on spare batteries.
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07:00:34 <MrMobodies> Am I missing something, can someone please explain what is mean't between the two statement?
07:01:41 <MrMobodies> I might have misread/misunderstood but did read it again and seems to say the opposite to me.
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08:47:20 * flyback smacks electrohead
08:48:50 <electrohead> Mod abuse!
08:54:25 <rust_collector> YAAY! wait for meeee!
08:56:06 * rust_collector hypnotizes electrohead, so he hears mid 2000s rap, when he plays cannibal corpse
08:59:06 <electrohead> nooooooo
09:00:05 <rust_collector> I cum blood, yo.
09:00:46 <electrohead> I don't!
09:00:48 <electrohead> lol
09:01:03 <rust_collector> yo
09:08:19 <rust_collector> electrohead, did I send that version of macarena?
09:09:30 <electrohead> oh no
09:16:01 <rust_collector> oh, ok. I might do that some time
09:16:46 <Ampera> cum and blood, perfect for any slutty vampire
09:16:53 <rust_collector> it was the kai, who made some ai thing create "macarena, but played by cannibal corpse"
09:17:15 <rust_collector> it sounds nothing like either, but...it has an interesting sound
09:18:45 <rust_collector> https://jumpshare.com/s/f3NMnbm7eKv2BiHR31ww
09:18:45 <EEVBot> [url] Macarena,_but_played_by_canibal_corpse_b88d38dce99d41a9901022be1b926a9c | jumpshare.com
09:46:05 <electrohead> lol
09:46:09 <electrohead> it needs lyrics
10:53:16 Join: hsn ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
10:53:37 <hsn> Yo
10:54:01 <Ampera> hi hsn
10:54:18 <hsn> Hello hello
10:55:09 <hsn> Just wanted to say, “meow meow” before ww3 starts
10:56:15 <hsn> How is going ampers
10:56:32 <Ampera> I am ok
10:56:33 <Ampera> tired
10:56:38 <Ampera> just put in some new earrings for tomorrow
10:56:54 <Ampera> how are you hsn
10:57:32 <hsn> What are these for
10:57:39 <hsn> Living so far
10:57:50 <Ampera> just for work tomorrow, nothing special
10:57:55 <Ampera> I got my ears pierced for my birthday
10:58:29 <hsn> Fck iphone it doesnt allow me to turn off the governement alerts and they send them at mid night
10:59:00 <hsn> Like ok u see some rocket or drone coming fck off i want to sleep at least let me sleep in peace
10:59:32 <hsn> When was your bd ?
10:59:48 <Ampera> January, so I only recently stopped the after care period
11:00:54 <hsn> Aha, enjoying pierced ears or regret?
11:01:42 <Ampera> I don't regret them, but it will take a while for them to fully heal up. They don't bother me though
11:02:02 <Ampera> I'm happy I can wear different earrings now, I got a bunch of different colored ones to match with my outfits and stuff
11:02:59 <hsn> They actually close if you dont wear anything?
11:03:13 <Ampera> Yes, which means they are reversible if I really wanted to
11:03:29 <Ampera> if I just took out earrings they'd close up and heal in a while
11:04:07 <hsn> Aha, please dont do it on your tounge or nose
11:04:31 <hsn> xD
11:04:35 <Ampera> A friend of mine has a septum piercing
11:04:43 <Ampera> but I am satisfied with this, I don't really want to do anything more
11:05:52 <hsn> Yeah be satisfied with yours. the nose one is for cows my friend
11:06:10 <Ampera> I don't feel it's bad if people get what they like
11:06:16 <Ampera> I don't think less of them
11:06:32 <hsn> why not?
11:06:59 <hsn> Ive changed a lot. i think of everyone less now
11:07:21 <Ampera> there's a lot worse people can do, and it's harmless
11:07:36 <Ampera> that someone else gets piercings doesn't impact my life in any way, and if they like it then that's great
11:08:08 <hsn> How do you know its not impacting your life
11:08:29 <Ampera> why would it
11:08:38 <hsn> Maybe it does in indirect complex way
11:09:03 <Ampera> at that rate you could plausibly blame anyone for anything
11:09:17 <hsn> True
11:09:35 <hsn> Its ok to hate everyone equally right?
11:09:53 <Ampera> There's also things that I'd probably like to do that others might not want for themselves, and I'd hope for most people to be accepting of it.
11:10:20 <Ampera> I don't think it's worth hating anyone. Nobody is perfect, but in the end whenever I've hated someone it's never really gained me anything.
11:10:45 <Ampera> Equality is also within the eye of the beholder. What is equal for you might be unfair to another.
11:12:02 <hsn> Thats right, but there is one true definition of equality?
11:12:22 <Ampera> Equality varies depends on what you are comparing.
11:12:32 <Ampera> A kilogram of steel is equal to a kilogram of feathers in weight
11:12:35 <Ampera> but in volume they very much are not
11:13:06 <Ampera> If you are trying to hold down paper, then the weight might be much more important
11:13:17 <Ampera> but if you are trying to stuff a pillow, then the lower density might be more important
11:13:32 <hsn> EEVBot: 1kg to lb
11:15:12 <hsn> Well in this case you refer to standard unit humans agreed for measuring weight ,, and thats it you can say they are equal in weight people shouldnt argue right?
11:16:07 <Ampera> sometimes arguing about obvious things can be an insight into more.
11:16:11 <Ampera> debate clubs exist for a reason
11:19:47 <hsn> As long as both parties are respectful and willing to accept others insights
11:22:02 <hsn> Otherwise it’s driving one to proof himself rather than seeking understanding
11:22:44 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
11:23:01 <hsn> Regardless, i wasnt serious at all just chattering xD
11:24:12 <hsn> Is it still a thing where is my tesla, the officer bird from aust, rusty, and the ysjoelfir guy?
11:24:30 <hsn> Do they still get in?
11:24:50 <Ampera> everyone except ysjoelfir still comes by
11:25:18 <hsn> What happened to him
11:25:48 <Ampera> had a falling out with him and he hasn't come by since
11:25:49 <hsn> Let me annoy him on whatsapp then
11:26:04 <hsn> Falling out = fight?
11:26:08 <Ampera> political in nature
11:26:27 <hsn> So you kicked him?
11:26:32 <hsn> :(
11:26:33 <Ampera> no, he simply hasn't come back
11:26:42 <hsn> xD
11:27:23 <Ampera> he supports an extreme right wing party in Germany and we argued about it, particularly in terms of policy that could impact me.
11:27:37 <hsn> Ok i will tell him to come back your arms are open and welcoming him back
11:27:52 <Ampera> I do not welcome him back, unless he's had a particular change of heart.
11:28:10 <hsn> Regardless of that i will lie to him
11:28:19 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
11:28:23 <hsn> Heheheh
11:29:14 <hsn> So thats the lgbt thing?
11:29:35 <Ampera> ?
11:30:07 <hsn> The thing (particularly in terms of pilicy that could impact me) means what
11:30:42 <Ampera> why is it important
11:31:08 <hsn> Just asking
11:31:26 <hsn> Not that important if you dont feel it we skip it
11:31:39 <Ampera> it's nuanced. more broadly I am not particularly interested in entertaining AfD supporters.
11:32:13 <Ampera> them having a poor outlook on LGBT people is only part of the reason
11:33:11 <hsn> I see
11:33:56 <hsn> Well, i will still tell him you miss him
11:34:03 <hsn> xD if you dont mind
11:38:20 <Ampera> I kinda do mind
11:38:25 <Ampera> I don't really want to have anything to do with him anymore
11:42:02 <hsn> The Arabic proverb “الاختلاف في الرأي لا يفسد في الود قضية” can be translated into English as:
11:42:02 <hsn> “Difference of opinion does not spoil friendship.”
11:42:02 <hsn> A slightly more nuanced rendering could be:
11:42:02 <hsn> • “Disagreement in opinion does not break bonds of affection.”
11:42:02 <hsn> • “Differences of opinion do not harm friendship.”
11:42:47 <Ampera> People like him are destroying my country and ushering in a genocide and mass murder the likes hasn't been seen in decades.
11:43:15 <Ampera> It is not a difference of opinion. He's making a conscious decision to support and aid people who use racism and hatred of those unlike them to define their actions.
11:43:50 <Ampera> To tolerate that would, even if in only a small way, be complicit in it.
11:46:13 <steve30> and there was me wondering if he ever got his work's telephones upgraded
11:46:31 <hsn> Hmm hmm, well im not mentioning you to him then
11:47:04 * Ampera pets steve30
11:47:14 <hsn> Eevbot help
11:47:33 <hsn> !eevbot slap Ampera
11:47:42 <MrMobodies> After spending hours and hours I managed to get Basilisk the way I want
11:47:43 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/Xj1JJDLX/Basilisk.jpg
11:47:49 <hsn> How we used to command this bot?
11:47:54 <steve30> I really don't understand the people who leave comments on videos like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fweHV6Mgpkc
11:47:54 <EEVBot> [YouTube] BBC1: temporary fault and closedown - Wednesday 13th/Thursday 14th March 1991 | 8m 37s | Channel: Ashley Michael Sowerby | 34,067 views | 2018-05-02 - 16:19:33 UTC
11:47:55 <MrMobodies> To something from the good all times
11:47:55 <Ampera> no idea, it's not my bot anymore
11:48:24 <steve30> Like, why do people need to leave comments to tell you what time the BBC clock was showing on screen?
11:48:58 <MrMobodies> oooh comments
11:49:09 <hsn> Because why not? @steve30
11:50:24 <MrMobodies> oh that's from the old times too
11:50:42 <MrMobodies> anything to do with this comment? "You don't get personal continuity like that anymore. Nicely handled."
11:51:15 <MrMobodies> lik the background music during the fault
11:51:37 <steve30> I was actually referring to "Clock 1:30am" , "Time on the clock: 01:30 am.", and "I was born in 1992 November"
11:53:07 <hsn> @steve30: give them thumbs up
11:53:08 <MrMobodies> 7:13, even though it doesn't have the details like the new weather forecasts, I love the way he speaks, I find it so nice and clear and not rushed or any "flowerly" confusing words
11:54:15 <hsn> They are helping LLM to index youtube
11:54:21 <MrMobodies> and he doesn't sound possessed to me like he's reading a script
11:55:11 <MrMobodies> Steve30, what do you think of that classic stuff they worked on in Basilisk?
11:55:37 <MrMobodies> Looks like they worked hard on that trying to adapt things
11:56:04 <MrMobodies> I found hardly no dimming overlays in the menu's so that's pleasing
11:56:18 <steve30> i haven't really looked at it yet
11:56:28 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/Xj1JJDLX/Basilisk.jpg
11:56:38 <MrMobodies> I can send you my config if you like that style
11:56:41 <steve30> i'll have to give it a go sometime
11:56:48 <MrMobodies> took me hours to install the adodns ans get it that way
11:57:01 <MrMobodies> and very buggy too some of the options
11:57:14 <MrMobodies> but once going it's great and seems solid and quick too
11:58:36 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/c0bQjFNy/Firefox-To-SHAME.jpg
11:59:03 <MrMobodies> so much more customizabiity (some put there by the addons) to the very things I want
11:59:31 <MrMobodies> If they can do it, why wouldn't or couldn't Mozilla.
11:59:56 <MrMobodies> I mean the tabs on bottom
12:03:24 <MrMobodies> Joke: maybe they should replace the Firefox UX team with these people from Basilisk where mc Straver strives to maintain all sorts of things withe browser and keeps the userbase happy "You browser Your way"
12:05:22 <MrMobodies> Well better make a copy of that browser profile before I do anything to bugger it up. That'd be my template now I got it perfect.
12:06:32 <MrMobodies> I like that "Your browser your way" instead of "Their browser their way".
12:07:42 <MrMobodies> I think the folks who do all that work represent what Mozilla was once were 20 years ago.
12:08:48 <MrMobodies> Very very happy tonight. One GOOD thing that happens to once in a while that works for me and not against me.
12:16:44 <MrMobodies> I found something in Aldi today. I have seen it before, it looked good but was reluctant to buy it as there were no open boxes.
12:16:53 <MrMobodies> Today I found one with an open box
12:19:44 <hsn> Tank filled with water for fasting tomorrow:)
12:21:24 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/2rbPgXBy/Ambio-Hoover.jpg
12:21:54 <MrMobodies> In Eco mode it doesn't scrunch up the table cloth as it does in max.
12:22:08 <MrMobodies> Seems to pick up things so well. It has a 10w electric powerhead brush
12:22:59 <MrMobodies> I don't plan to use it with the hose. It's to clean up my workshop tables. My other small hoovers, whilst they work they fill up too quickly.
12:23:29 <MrMobodies> Fasting?
12:23:55 <MrMobodies> So what has the water tank got to do with a period of not eating?
12:25:04 <MrMobodies> the batteries in the hoover isn't great, 22.5v maybe 5 cells or so, 2200mah lithium wit 15 min runtime but that's is enough just to clear out bits on my table for only a few seconds at a time
12:25:27 <MrMobodies> with the help of that electric brush
12:26:53 <MrMobodies> The Sebo 2100w L3 Airbelt with the 150w powerhead is too big and too aggressive as it seems to leave marks on the wood from the plastic and brush
12:27:55 <MrMobodies> that hoover is over 21 years old that and one of the best I ever had.
12:28:36 <MrMobodies> In fact I took it to the pub last week to clean up the back. There was plastic and glass fragments all over the floor
12:28:51 <MrMobodies> and the crappy pub hoover couldn't pick it up
12:43:13 <MrMobodies> Now what do you think about this?
12:43:15 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/wHhWJ8Jf/Sebo-K3Airbelt-Performance.jpg
12:43:23 <MrMobodies> A hoover that actually works and performs
12:43:46 <MrMobodies> First 3 pictures during hoovering. (Well I had to pick some of the plaster up and rubbish)
12:43:53 <MrMobodies> Last year pictures spotless
12:44:15 <MrMobodies> even the landlady was surpised how well that floor came up
12:44:51 <MrMobodies> I told her she got to stop buying stupid Mr Henry type hoovers with just a stupid HOLE instead of a more powerful one with an electric brush.
12:46:45 <MrMobodies> The Mr Henry's have their great uses like when connected up to saw's to collect the wood dust and chippins or picking up light weight rubble in building sites
12:48:08 <MrMobodies> oops "last year picture" I mean last three pictures on the right
12:50:31 <MrMobodies> and Mr Henry not so good with just some head piece with a hole under it to clean carpets and large areas instead of one with an electric powerhead.
13:21:49 <electrohead> Ampera: > People like him are destroying my country
13:21:52 <electrohead> People like who?
13:22:39 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, who was in fairly vocal support of the far right AfD party in Germany.
13:23:33 <electrohead> So, someone in Germany is destroying your country, the US?
13:25:09 <Ampera> I said people like
13:25:51 <Ampera> and for what it's worth I am German, and have family and people I care about in Germany.
13:25:51 <electrohead> Regardless that's a bit fucked up of a thing to say about him, no?
13:25:56 <Ampera> it's not
13:26:04 <electrohead> LOL
13:26:40 <Ampera> Have you even seen any of the conversations we've had? Why are you injecting yourself into this?
13:26:55 <electrohead> It's a public IRC channel.........
13:27:03 <Ampera> We don't see eye to eye, and I don't appreciate him or his views. I think they're dangerous and hateful.
13:27:06 <Ampera> what more do you want fro mme
13:27:21 <electrohead> Wow..
13:27:26 <Ampera> I feel it's a similar vein of hatred and discrimination that's making things miserable for people like me in the US
13:27:28 <electrohead> I can't even say anymore to this.
13:27:53 <Ampera> wtf is wrong with you
13:27:57 <Ampera> you just assume I'm wrong?
13:28:00 <Ampera> straight up
13:28:27 <Ampera> zero benefit of the doubt, no possibility that I might have reason to say this
13:28:38 <electrohead> It has nothing to do about someone being right or wrong
13:29:16 <Ampera> ???
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13:29:43 <Ampera> do you have a point to make or not
13:30:00 <electrohead> Why are you such a cunt, sometimes?
13:30:44 <Ampera> what did I do to deserve that
13:30:58 <electrohead> I'm out.
13:31:36 <Ampera> The AfD has a pretty solid policy against trans people. Ysjoelfir has gone out on a limb to express favor in limiting my rights and ability to participate in society.
13:31:39 <MrMobodies> Well Mozilla has certainly "destroyed" the great experience it had to offer but now with enthusiasts
13:31:41 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/09FmcnJ0/Firefox21-VS-Basilisk202505.jpg
13:32:08 <Ampera> I can't help the fact that I am like this, so what the fuck do you want me to do, just sit down and be fine with people who want to keep me as a second class citizen?
13:32:10 <MrMobodies> Nice, simple and clear and I can see what I am doing.
13:32:47 <MrMobodies> oooh Ampera, you not treated right?
13:32:54 <electrohead> Well, I was not referring to any trans issues whatsoever, you brought that up.
13:33:05 <MrMobodies> ooh that sorry
13:33:25 <Ampera> I brought it up because it's relevant to why I don't want to deal with Ysjoelfir anymore
13:33:26 <electrohead> You brought up about other people and hatred, and yet .. here's you, look at how you literally just came off before
13:33:30 <Ampera> and why he and I had a falling out
13:33:36 <electrohead> You see nothing wrong with how you came off or what you said?
13:33:39 <Ampera> No
13:33:50 <Ampera> and I find it obnoxious you're bullying me over it
13:34:01 <electrohead> This is bullying?
13:34:14 <Ampera> You called me a cunt
13:34:18 <MrMobodies> I thought you mean't second class citizen in your country and I know how it feels to be treated as a second class citizen in England.
13:34:21 <electrohead> Oh ffs
13:34:58 <Ampera> You just assumed I was being an asshole and are insisting that I need to fill in some blank as to why I'm not meeting your expectations
13:34:59 <electrohead> You clearly showed hatred towards someone else, because of their views.
13:35:08 <electrohead> Do you not look in the fucking mirror whatsoever?
13:35:54 <Ampera> So I'm not permitted to begrudge someone else for their views ever?
13:36:05 <Ampera> I'm not being persecuted for my views, I am being persecuted for existing.
13:36:09 <Ampera> There's a big fucking difference
13:36:13 <electrohead> That's not the point, you dunce!
13:36:18 <Ampera> dude fuck off
13:36:35 <Ampera> I don't know who pissed in your corn flakes, but this is obnoxious
13:36:53 <electrohead> Jeebus, go reread what you wrote about someone else, CLOWN
13:37:17 <electrohead> "over views"
13:37:20 <electrohead> Fucking hell
13:37:53 <Ampera> I don't know what the hell you want from me, or why you are acting like a piece of shit
13:37:58 <electrohead> Yeah I can see this world not getting along much, anymore. So many things split so many people - all I say is, "hey you said something that doesn't sound nice" - and you literally defended that.
13:38:21 <Ampera> I'm sorry I am saying shit you don't like?
13:38:31 <Ampera> I'm sorry I am standing by what I said?
13:38:42 <Ampera> You don't seem to care why i said it or what justification I have
13:38:50 <Ampera> you just didn't like it and are upset that I had a problem with someone else?
13:39:18 <Ampera> I didn't even bring this up, I was outright asked why I don't walk to him anymore, and was pressed on it.
13:39:22 <Ampera> *talk
13:39:51 <electrohead> Well, actually I try to. It's when the person in question clearly shows hatred towards someone else who apparently has hatreds. That's just how it goes, apparently. Let's keep the hate!
13:39:52 <Ampera> I have beef, he said shit that was kinda crappy, he vocally supported people that don't have good intentions for me or a bunch of other people
13:40:07 <Ampera> That's the paradox of tolerance.
13:40:09 <electrohead> People are fucking strange, anymore.
13:40:12 <electrohead> Tolerance?
13:40:16 <electrohead> Amazing.
13:40:43 <Ampera> god forbid I try to express nuance with you
13:41:16 <Ampera> I don't think anything I'm gonna say is gonna get you out of whatever mood this is, and it's getting late.
13:41:25 <electrohead> ???
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13:41:29 <electrohead> lol
13:41:42 <Ampera> I need to go to bed, good night
13:41:49 <electrohead> bye
13:59:57 <steve30> I don't know what ysjoelfirs views are on gender identity etc but I do strongly suspect that his support for AFD has more to do with immigration
14:01:16 <Halcyon> Gees, what the hell did I miss
14:01:29 <MrMobodies> Hatred is what you missed.
14:01:38 <Halcyon> Glad I missed it then
14:01:40 <electrohead> Pretty much
14:01:45 <steve30> Halcyon, looks like we're a channel of far right transphobes
14:01:48 <MrMobodies> I was all excited talking about the Basilisk browser and able to customize it when the arguing started
14:02:19 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/yNhkNFjD/Firefox21-VS-Basilisk202505.jpg
14:02:26 <Halcyon> I don't know anyone here who is transphobic
14:02:36 <Halcyon> But anyway, I'm not going to get involved or start anything.
14:03:38 <steve30> at first glance, basilisk browser looks good, i'll try it out later
14:04:18 <MrMobodies> I am just pleased I can have it "my way" like 2 decades ago. Not "Google's Chrome way"
14:04:48 <MrMobodies> and it seems to perform so much better than Palemoon where it doesn't stop and hang
14:05:14 * arch enters channel, sees giant wall of text... sticks a plunger on electrohead's noggin and leaves and will come back when things have settled down
14:05:15 <MrMobodies> whilst preserving all the old xpcom extensions and maintaining compability
14:05:42 * electrohead wiggles, makes it move
14:06:35 * Halcyon flicks it and runs away
14:07:02 <arch> !twss
14:07:02 <EEVBot> That's what she said!
14:09:00 <MrMobodies> I was thinking, maybe they could replace the Mozilla UX/UI team with Mike Straver's team (Baslisk & Palemoon) and give the users what they want that they had before.
14:18:04 <MrMobodies> Wwell just had some chunky large extra long Birds eye fish fingers with some Tartar sauce and absolutely gorgeous
14:18:40 <MrMobodies> Just thinking, yes it's sad to see people fight.
14:19:05 <MrMobodies> I have a hatred too but not not at people, it's at web design.
14:19:16 <steve30> ^
14:19:28 <MrMobodies> I was watching a horror footage with my dad earlier
14:19:44 <MrMobodies> then they change to phone aspect ratio
14:20:11 <MrMobodies> and put the gaussian blur on the sides, which appear larger than the video, brigher and more distracting and put me right off.
14:20:37 <steve30> if it was filmed on a phone there's not much you can do about that
14:20:46 <MrMobodies> so I'd thought I'd make some coffee, and gobble down quarter of a box of After eight mints
14:21:23 <MrMobodies> yes, I am not sure whether
14:21:41 <MrMobodies> the guassian blur was inserted by the phone during filming or editing
14:22:04 <steve30> they'd have added it in in editing to avoid having black bars
14:22:16 <MrMobodies> The scenes at the beggining were widescreen with black bars
14:22:37 <MrMobodies> I'd rather see blackbars, than have gobbly gook light scatter everywhere
14:22:41 <steve30> I don't like it when they do that to 4:3 pictures, but its OK for 9:16 or whatever because the black bars can look silly
14:23:14 <MrMobodies> If it was static and not as bright I wouldn't mind as long as it don't SCREAM for attention
14:23:50 <MrMobodies> with the movement and the blurly lights that scattered around in blurred form
14:24:14 <MrMobodies> it just infuriates me... "stupidity" comes to mind
14:24:21 <MrMobodies> I mean, what if they did this in a cinema?
14:24:54 <MrMobodies> would people get annoyed, leave and demand for a refund.
14:25:53 <steve30> if it was a documentary and the only footage available on $event was tallscreen, they'd have to make a decision about whether to pillar box it, crop it, do the blur thing, or just not bother
14:26:41 <MrMobodies> What they could do, is crop the video or make that smaller and insert other scene's of the "ghost hunt" from other camera angles making use of the display in a way that's not gobbly gook and distracting
14:27:10 <MrMobodies> I think I prefer everything else, but the blur thing
14:27:24 <MrMobodies> I'd rather watch cropped letterbox than see that blur
14:27:42 <MrMobodies> at least it won't be as distracting
14:28:24 <MrMobodies> well "not just bothering" must be the most economical, satisfying solution for everybody.
14:29:04 <MrMobodies> no additional unecessary work not part of the video, went into it, nothing can work against the viewer.
14:29:25 <MrMobodies> Well said.
14:30:06 <MrMobodies> Pillar box, crop or just not bother. I like that.
14:30:32 <MrMobodies> Even has a rhyme to it
14:31:09 <steve30> I think vertical video is one of those awkward things, where it is all you have, a bit like time lapse VHS CCTV, or potato-quality webcams etc
14:31:16 <steve30> and you just have to use it the best you can
14:31:59 <steve30> I intent to go out and make a vertical video myself later this morning
14:32:18 <steve30> (widescreen would actually be much better for this but I wanted to do a YouTube Short)
14:33:40 <MrMobodies> I don't mind vertial footage, I could always zoom in myself but I imagine others might not find that easy
14:33:52 <MrMobodies> but the black bars don't bother me
14:34:06 <MrMobodies> as much as distracting things showing
14:34:31 <steve30> I have seen the blurring used to good effect, so I'm not opposed to it, but sometimes it does just look silly.
14:34:38 <steve30> I guess its all subjective
14:34:48 <MrMobodies> I find it very distracting (for me)
14:34:57 <MrMobodies> you see, it's the movement on the sides
14:35:13 <MrMobodies> like three videos playign (the center is the real one)
14:35:21 <MrMobodies> and parts copied on the sides and blurred out
14:35:34 <MrMobodies> so that's why I have difficulty concentrating
14:36:06 <MrMobodies> I thought on screen channel logos were terrible with the distraction decades ago, which is why I didn't look at freeview tv
14:36:15 <MrMobodies> but that's (to me) is many times worse
14:36:37 <MrMobodies> at the least the on screen DOGS or channel logos don't move around
14:37:12 <MrMobodies> sometimes if they are really transparent or tiny I could tollerate it as it is not attracting my attention
14:37:46 <MrMobodies> I am very easily distracted and can notice things
14:39:53 <MrMobodies> That Basilisk also has, video downloaders
14:40:26 <MrMobodies> Maybe I'll see what they do, see if they can get things off Youtube directly and see if they can obtain the high definition streams past 480p
14:40:57 <MrMobodies> like Palemoon does at 480p if I unselect some codecs
14:41:41 <MrMobodies> Steve30, have you been paid for anymore of your footage recently?
14:49:16 <steve30> no, i don't routinely sell things
14:51:13 <steve30> i sold a whopping 10 seconds to channel 4 last year and that was it
14:54:40 <steve30> https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxpJE0z2eiYBg31hHUdDa5gQFRI-Iopcjx?si=SbmPO6EYWee_4zJ0
14:54:41 <EEVBot> [url] ✂️ one day in southport - YouTube | youtube.com
14:54:45 <steve30> for those wondering
14:55:38 <arch> steve30, vertical video wont work if you're filming the typical american walmart specimen
14:55:51 <steve30> lol
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15:04:17 <arch> electrohead, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgwfObY-WDQ
15:04:18 <EEVBot> [YouTube] You Got A Friend In Me | 3m 13s | Channel: MeatCanyon | 17,476,705 views | 2022-02-20 - 18:00:09 UTC
15:44:46 <MrMobodies> still work to do on Basilisk, it has these stupid animations on the tabs and address bar and I know it's coming from some extension but nos tur which one
15:45:25 <arch> so im looking at flightradar24 and...who are these crazy people ENTERING into dubai NOW of all times
15:45:54 <arch> fucking lunatic passengers. reminds me of that guy who goes traveling after a terrorist attack to take advantage of deals
16:18:13 <MrMobodies> found out it was Status-4-ever extensions where the animations were coming from and can be switched off
16:18:14 <electrohead> lmao
16:18:16 <MrMobodies> oooh
16:19:21 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/5frvsVrN/Status-4-ever.jpg
16:22:09 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNtmXW9fQ7o
16:22:10 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ‘Fraudsters Already Trying To Scam Brits Leaving Dubai’ | Explosions In Dubai As Iran Retaliates | 16m 6s | Channel: TalkTV | 9,705 views | 2026-03-02 - 11:45:06 UTC
16:22:42 <MrMobodies> Wonder if they had anything to do with scamming those wanting to leave
16:23:00 <MrMobodies> I mean them flying there to take advantage out of those trying to get out
16:47:01 <MrMobodies> Yep the other one on the tabs was from "Tab Mix Plus" under setting "progress meter"
16:47:07 <MrMobodies> not it seems perfect
16:48:01 <MrMobodies> now time to install adblock/ublock for my local blocklist of annoying suggestions and stupid web page animations
16:53:55 <MrMobodies> nope adblock/ublock not working, but does on new profile... always something
17:26:37 <MrMobodies> Just installed Ublock, Adblock doesn't seem to work
17:26:52 <MrMobodies> added my filter list and seems faster without the placeholder things
17:27:05 <MrMobodies> not as fast as firefox, but workable and it "my way"
17:28:03 <MrMobodies> aah got to set: image.animation_mode from normal to once
17:28:21 <MrMobodies> ooh it disables the animations
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21:07:20 <Ampera> steve30: it doesn't matter. It's not a small issue, parties like the AfD want to eradicate trans people and eliminate them from public life.
21:07:45 <Ampera> how am I supposed to feel when someone supports those people? Even for some other arguably poor reason
21:08:20 <Ampera> There's a real ongoing crisis about this stuff, and it's getting worse by the day
21:10:04 <Halcyon> I mean, without really knowing what that party is about, "eradication" seems to be rather harsh. There are two ends of the spectrum with all kinds of policies in between. For example, no one should be able to simply identify as a potted plant. That shit is ridiculous, but so is ignoring the fact that Transgender is a real thing and is not a mental illness.
21:11:02 <Ampera> Halcyon: AfD is under direct support by people like Elon Musk, who sponsors policies to eliminate access to healthcare for trans people
21:11:23 <Ampera> Hospitals are starting to refuse to even serve trans people for their issues where I live
21:12:00 <Halcyon> I'd have to read more into their policies to really make a call one way or another. However regardless, no one should be judged solely on their political affiliations. No one is going to agree 100% with one party or another.
21:12:19 <Ampera> I am not trying to be alarmist, this is a real problem that a lot of people just ignore because they think it doesn't impact them
21:12:47 <Ampera> Halcyon, there is seriously no point where someone's beliefs make them subject to judgement?
21:12:58 <Halcyon> I'm sure a large number of other people are being turned away from hospitals for one reason or another. Hospitals have to triage and service those who need it more.
21:13:03 <Ampera> Nothing anyone can believe that should make someone go hey wait
21:13:30 <Ampera> No, the government here is bullying and threatening hospitals who provide it
21:13:32 <Halcyon> Not saying that, but which political party in the world would most people 100% agree with? I can't think of any.
21:14:07 <Halcyon> Sure you might have some die-hard people, but they are few and far between. For example, for my preferred party, I agree with them about 70% of the time.
21:14:33 <Ampera> So then you just assume I'm wrong without knowing anything about it?
21:15:25 <Ampera> I mean jesus christ I didn't even bring this up originally, I was asked point blank
21:15:28 <Halcyon> I didn't say that at all. In fact, I pointed out specifically that I would need to read more into it. What I am saying is, someones political affiliations don't necessarily make them a bad person, just because someone else doesn't agree with their opinion.
21:15:40 <Ampera> and Ysjoelfir judges me for my beliefs just as much
21:15:52 <Ampera> He left the channel oner not liking what I had to say
21:15:56 <Halcyon> Does he though? It seems like he isn't even here and doesn't care?
21:16:02 <Ampera> and basically refused to talk to me afterwards
21:16:11 <Ampera> I tried to contact him directly a few times
21:16:48 <Halcyon> Some people just don't like conflict, especially over political matters.
21:17:22 <Ampera> then why are people starting it with me, and then judging me for my views
21:17:26 <Halcyon> I'm not taking either side here.
21:17:45 <Halcyon> Because, you're here? And you brought it up?
21:17:53 <Halcyon> I'm more than happy to leave it on the table.
21:18:22 <Ampera> I just want to explain why I am frustrated and fired up about this
21:18:29 <Halcyon> People will have opinions that others will disagree with, such is life.
21:18:46 <Halcyon> And please do, you have the floor. This is an open forum.
21:18:55 <Ampera> For the last year I've had to watch my government say I don't exist, am fucked in the head, and do everything they can to get rid of me
21:19:04 <Halcyon> I'm also trying to understand it for other views as well.
21:19:41 <Ampera> Things are threatening to get bad enough where I no longer feel safe here.
21:20:22 <Ampera> Germany is one of my only other options and the AfD seem to present a lot of the same prospects and they have a terrifying amount of support
21:20:24 <Halcyon> I'm not going to pretend to understand US politics either. If things are as bad as you say they are, of course, that's not good. What's the solution?
21:20:40 <Ampera> Not supporting the people who support those policies
21:21:21 <Ampera> I can only vote with my hand and my mouth
21:21:35 <Halcyon> OK sure, but I'm sure they also have policies which you don't agree with. And herein lies the issue. You're part of a minority, and it sucks, it will take time for others to come around, like it was for the gays and lesbians.
21:23:00 <Ampera> it's actively going backwards
21:23:25 <Halcyon> That's going to differ between countries obviously.
21:23:52 <Halcyon> And it pains me to hear that you're experiencing that.
21:23:54 <Ampera> Which is why I don't support people who support parties in other countries which want to facilitate that
21:24:21 <Ampera> it's an existential issue for me, it's not a lot different to being a jew and supporting nazis
21:24:39 <Halcyon> I mean, from my perspective, when it comes to elections, I vote for what I believe is the greater good, not what will favour me personally. Maybe I'm in the minority here.
21:24:41 <Ampera> There was a lot of shushing and hand waving back then too
21:25:58 <Halcyon> The reason I typically don't get too "involved" in politics, is regardless of which side or party you align with, there is always a grain of salt to be taken.
21:26:09 <Ampera> If there was a party who wanted to eradicate gay people, but were somehow great on every other issue, would you vote for them?
21:26:31 <Halcyon> Well, laws would prevent that from ever occurring.
21:26:35 <Ampera> Democracy is two wolves and a sheep agreeing on who's for dinner
21:26:55 <Ampera> Laws can be changed and overturned
21:26:59 <Ampera> or just outright ignored
21:27:15 <Halcyon> No one is eradicating gays in countries like here or there. Let's be real here.
21:27:31 <Halcyon> North Korea, I could see it, but I am not there.
21:27:54 <Ampera> There is a distinct sector of people here who want to do just that
21:28:16 <Halcyon> Yeah and good luck to those morons. They will die before anything like that ever happens.
21:28:26 <Ampera> Sodomy was a crime in the US within my lifetime
21:29:00 <Halcyon> It was a crime here too in mine. Could you imagine the backlash if that was ever brought back it? Shit, gays and straight people everywhere would be burning down the government
21:29:35 <Ampera> There's backlash here too, but there's also a lot of people who have been convinced that it would be in their best interest
21:30:02 <Ampera> and they had enough in order to sway a major election that people like me are now reaping the consequences of
21:30:38 <Ampera> I don't mean to bicker on about the same point. I just feel that supporting someone like this is strongly against my own lived interests
21:31:02 <Ampera> and I feel like I am living in a time where I no longer have the luxury to do so even if I wanted to
21:31:38 <Ampera> That's the end of it, and if it makes people here hate me then join the club
21:31:40 <Halcyon> I mean, we grew up very different lives obviously. If someone voted for the Greens here (for example), I wouldn't hate them, even though (in my opinion) they are one of the more despicable parties there is.
21:32:24 <Halcyon> No one hates you Ampera. Least of all Jslfirsms whatever his nick was.
21:33:42 <Halcyon> I think if people can't talk politics without ripping into each other, then they shouldn't talk politics. Get to know the person for who they are.
21:34:27 <Halcyon> Like if someone voted for Trump, I would literally shrug. Honestly, couldn't care less.
21:36:56 <Ampera> I generally refuse to deal with unrepentant Trump supporters anymore.
21:37:06 <Ampera> They've crossed a line of human decency
21:37:25 <Ampera> and I even voted for the guy in 2020, and consider it the worst decision I have made in my entire life
21:37:43 <Ampera> They're building literal concentration camps here
21:37:55 <Halcyon> For who?
21:40:40 <Ampera> Migrants for now, which are picked off the street usually based on race alone regardless of status or identification
21:41:05 <Ampera> by a federal police force which is now the most well funded in the nation
21:41:26 <Ampera> Multiple whistleblowers have alleged they get practically no training, and have no oversight
21:41:50 <Ampera> there's tons of use of force and civil rights cases against them and they categorically refuse to follow any court orders on them
21:42:08 <Ampera> They're trying to buy up actual warehouses here to use to store people en masse
21:42:22 <Ampera> I swear on my honor this is the truth
21:44:21 <K> one theory is trumy is fishing for large, gun-involved unrest, to suspend/postpon midterm elections
21:46:32 <K> apologies for butting in.
21:54:12 <hsn> Your apologies accepted mr kiwi
21:54:43 <K> oohhh hsn
21:54:57 <Halcyon> Well yes, my view on your law enforcement agencies in the USA don't align with what actually happens there.
21:55:11 <K> how is sand, if may, hsn? i just have to know!
21:56:02 <hsn> Sand is blowing by missiles xD
21:56:12 <K> yeah, so i hear
21:56:18 <Halcyon> I would like some hot sand, sick of this rain here
21:56:40 <K> but it's coarse and gets everywhere
21:56:45 <hsn> !eevbot blow Halcyon some sand
21:56:52 <Halcyon> Heh
21:57:18 <hsn> Yeah its like WW3 knocking the doors, and someone is going to open the door
21:57:26 <Halcyon> I should go to bed. I have an early start tomorrow.
21:57:29 <K> misiles far (relatively) away hsn, or like uncomfortably close?
21:58:08 <hsn> K, honestly i dont know i have few footage they look far on sky
21:58:15 <K> ah.
21:58:40 <hsn> Heard few drones, just like 15 mins ago there was some vibration one that vibrated the building
21:59:17 <hsn> Wife was super scared like in first 2 days
21:59:50 <hsn> @Halcyon: enjoy the bed
22:00:17 <Halcyon> Thanks hsn. Have a good day everyone.
22:00:49 <K> building vibrating does not sound like fun at all :/
22:02:20 <K> how is kid doing? broke any more tvs?
22:12:22 <hsn> Hahhahahah
22:12:35 <hsn> No tvs
22:12:49 <hsn> Just doing stuff in car
22:12:58 <hsn> Like painting window while im driving
22:13:06 <hsn> Or breaking rear ac
22:16:14 <K> good good!
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