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00:08:27 <Halcyon> I actually thought about doing some retrocomputing today (technically yesterday) but then I didn't.
00:08:51 <Halcyon> Want to get my 486 up and running with Windows 3.11 and some old games I used to play as a kid
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00:34:38 <steve30> i do hope halcyon saves us some chicken thighs
00:56:25 <Kuschelpony> friendlywhinny
01:24:53 <K> aye
01:40:21 <steve30> hmm, my Windows 7 box gave me a message saying it has recovered from an unexpected shutdown
02:35:54 <arch> rust_collector, i made sure the compression tester also works for small engines, because it has a shraeder valve in it at the gauge fitting end. i will redo the test with a leakdown tester, because that's the most accurate method for engines that have a compression release mechanism like most small engines do
02:36:44 <arch> on a car it would be easy to do because i dont think car engines have compression releases. anyways the starter motor would spin the crankshaft fast enough for it not to matter if it did
02:38:08 <arch> friendlytoot
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03:59:50 <arch> Ampera, are you by chance any good with rebuilding carburetors for small engines (mowers, trimmers, etc)?
04:00:04 <arch> or maybe electrohead
04:06:09 <rust_collector> just make sure the float is floating, the needle is sealing, and all the passages and jets are open, and...leave it alone
04:06:16 <arch> Halcyon, do you have the IBM 5150?
04:06:56 <arch> rust_collector, i was thinking if it was possible to make a frankenstein carb using the OEM carb, but then taking an aftermarket carb that is 100% cross compatible, and swapping out the bowl nut (adjustable main jet)
04:07:41 <rust_collector> if it fits, I would think so
04:08:14 <rust_collector> the new one came without the adjuster thing?
04:08:57 <arch> the new carb is aftermarket (adjustable main jet, the screw at the bottom of the bowl), the old carb is OEM (no adjustable main jet)
04:09:42 <rust_collector> arch, I think most have the valve, but they are still different.
04:09:55 <rust_collector> ah, ok. uuh... yeah, if it fits...but why? do you want to use the old carb?
04:12:04 <arch> that's the idea, yea. reuse most of the OEM carb, but with the added tweakability of the adjustable main jet
04:12:56 <Ampera> arch, I have never even touched one
04:13:06 <arch> !twss
04:13:07 <EEVBot> That's what she said!
04:13:23 <rust_collector> Ampera, you should, they feel so nice.
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04:27:51 <arch> welp, i just made an impulse purchase. and it's all your fault Halcyon. i went ahead and bought a for parts IBM 5150 (no monitor). if i can get it fixed up, i'm getting the 5151 monitor.
04:28:49 <rust_collector> that is 107% retro
04:29:57 <Kuschelpony> just ask if you have any questions about CRT monitors
04:37:39 <arch> Kuschelpony, i will likely buy a working 5151 monitor, but depends on the price tbh. they are still moderately affordable for hobbyists.
04:56:28 <Ampera> arch, https://www.mtmscientific.com/pc-retro.html
04:56:28 <EEVBot> [url] PC-Retro IBM Clone | www.mtmscientific.com
04:59:24 <arch> ty Ampera
04:59:58 <Ampera> I have considered buying a kit a few times, but never had quite enough interest
05:03:41 <arch> then you've gotta buy the case, etc etc. might as well buy a non working 5150, then replace whatever's broken. really the most important is the mainboard. the original CRT is a nice to have for authenticity, but not really required.
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05:06:36 <K> different strokes!
05:06:42 <K> is snow as fuck over here
05:07:05 <rust_collector> so snow!
05:08:07 <K> no snow for you, rusty?
05:08:34 <rust_collector> nah, we have a thin layer of white. but it is mostly layers of frost
05:13:50 <flyback> steve30, why are you still running 7
05:14:03 <flyback> I hope this is for some industrial piece of gear
05:14:20 <K> his woodchipper
05:14:23 <rust_collector> because it works, probably
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06:49:40 <DHess_US> arch, I am not used to thinking in terms of a leakdown test, but that would verify that it is good at least.
06:50:19 <DHess_US> Sometimes the compression release will get stuck so the leakdown test will be good, but there will still be low compression because the compression release is broken.
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09:23:02 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
10:15:54 <steve30> o/
10:46:23 <K> !coffee steve30
10:47:56 * EEVBot hooks steve30 up to a coffee IV
11:04:47 <Ampera> <3
11:04:55 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, how's you?
11:05:00 <Ampera> I am doing ok
11:05:03 <Ampera> done with work for the year
11:05:33 <Halcyon> Yays!
11:09:00 <K> what? no worky tomorrow?
11:09:03 <K> socialist1
11:09:04 <K> !
11:15:13 <Halcyon> I feel like noodles
11:20:27 <MrMobodies> I wonder if these things came out of the same factory
11:20:29 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/FNpRPt6r/image.png
11:20:29 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
11:20:41 <MrMobodies> noticed on Ebay suggestions
11:21:16 <Halcyon> Very similar indeed
11:22:13 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/7DVw43nB/image.png
11:22:14 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
11:22:21 <MrMobodies> Oh look "MADE IN BELGIUM"
11:22:26 <MrMobodies> both of them
11:23:13 <MrMobodies> thone of the serial numbers match a litte
11:23:22 <MrMobodies> 3104 207 12xxx
11:23:28 <MrMobodies> both 6v 100ma
11:25:24 <arch> no socialists allowed in this channel. only commies allowed.
11:25:51 <MrMobodies> On this Marrantz with the docking base
11:25:53 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/KcK6tMCV/image.png
11:25:54 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
11:26:01 <MrMobodies> It comes with a Philips power supply
11:26:27 <MrMobodies> looks like Philips manufacturered it for Marantz
11:32:01 <MrMobodies> when I hear that word, it reminds me of this video I saw 20 years ago
11:32:04 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfysfioE3wU
11:32:04 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Kenny Everett General Cheeseburger Comedy | 1m 28s | Channel: RetroCynical | 1,592 views | 2022-03-24 - 21:17:08 UTC
11:32:27 <MrMobodies> commies
11:33:52 <arch> looks like ill have to do a valve job on this old engine
11:34:04 <MrMobodies> 0:29, pinko subversives, closet comies
11:36:25 <arch> DHess_US, are you familiar with old Tecumseh flathead engines? seeing 45psi compression on my HM80 which is on an old generator. https://imgur.com/a/OAf73Ii
11:37:05 <arch> i confirmed that my compression tester has a shraeder valve. also tested it on a 2 stroke snowblower, which showed 90 psi and runs great
11:37:52 <arch> this HM80 sometimes backfires and runs rather rough at times. so i am almost certain it's valves that are out of whack. probably need to grind the stems down. let me google around to see what "normal" compression for these are
11:40:20 <arch> huh, interesting... ok i may have rushed to conclusions somewhat. so the low compression might have to do with the compression release mechanism inside
11:40:40 <arch> but i still want to make sure the valve lash is up to spec. to do that, i have to take the head off anyway...
11:42:40 <arch> DHess_US, the way to eliminate that possibility is to take the head off and confirm the compression release is working first lol. well, now you need a new head gasket (possible), which is $7-10, not a big deal. need to take it off to adjust the valve lashes anyway
11:44:08 <arch> all my goodies should be coming next year
11:44:10 <arch> !rimshot
11:44:10 <EEVBot> ba dum tss!
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12:15:48 <ibiza> Hornay!
12:17:00 <Halcyon> \o/
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12:17:29 <arch> Halcyon, did you have a good new years?
12:17:49 <Halcyon> I mean, it wasn't bad. Just a nice quiet one. Made tasty foods. How about you?
12:19:48 <arch> well my aunt died yesterday, so there's that
12:19:54 <arch> other than that, can't complain
12:21:32 <Halcyon> Oh that's not good! I'm sorry to hear that.
12:22:11 <arch> yea, she had metastatic cancer for a while now, like almost a year
12:22:25 <Halcyon> I see
12:53:06 <K> happynewyears Halcyons and others
13:05:01 <DHess_US> Yea, there is a compression release. I am not sure how you work around that.
13:05:10 <DHess_US> but 45 psi would be too low.
13:05:27 <DHess_US> Might just need to adjust the valves, but if you get that far, you can verify is something is broken.
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13:58:26 <arch> DHess_US, the surefire way is a leakdown tester. i just got this https://www.mactools.com/products/cld210ma but the older version 210M, and used, off ebay, for $115 total. i dont trust Harbor freight leakdown tester, seems iffy according to reviews
13:58:26 <EEVBot> [url] Cylinder Leak-Down Detector - CLD210MA | Mac Tools | www.mactools.com
13:59:16 <arch> and will follow this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaHlDy-O3BI
13:59:16 <EEVBot> [YouTube] How to perform a cylinder leak down test on a push mower. | 5m 1s | Channel: Copeland Small Engine Repair | 770 views | 2022-05-23 - 11:50:35 UTC
14:15:00 <MrMobodies> I just found something I never knew about back in the day
14:15:02 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPfw2qpH4ZU
14:15:02 <EEVBot> [YouTube] The ORIGINAL SCAM Graphics Card! | 28m 18s | Channel: Budget-Builds Official | 428,962 views | 2024-08-09 - 17:00:28 UTC
14:16:10 <MrMobodies> SiS sy would be the perfect choice for a scammer.
14:18:12 <MrMobodies> 6:03, Pine website banner "Building, bright ideas" Graphics SiS SiS315 effortlessly churns out awesomely vivid graphics textures at lightening speeds, giving users a truely remarkable visual experience with life-like levels of realism..."
14:20:06 <MrMobodies> 5:24 "in reality you're getting more or less an old IGPu from a motherboard stuck on an AGP card and sold to you as a brand new product.
14:21:35 <MrMobodies> I wouldn't say it's worst points is that it's an old IGPU. From my experience with SiSsy things were horrible with how slow and very unstable.
14:23:41 <MrMobodies> in 2000, what use to happen at a school, using Microsoft word, just open a menu, Wordart use to trigger it quickly and they'd be garbage and artifacts showing followed shortly by the blue screen.
14:24:19 <MrMobodies> I kept on loosing work despite saving and apparently it doesn't seem to save immediately
14:25:21 <MrMobodies> Last straw was loosing 4 pages of writing and I told them I'd rather use one of their really old 486's from the basement than this peace of sh*t.
14:26:07 <MrMobodies> the previous ones were Amd K6, Aliddan chipset, absolutely no problems which went to another site.
14:27:19 <MrMobodies> I'd say what happened there, the school got scammed by manufacturer's using SiSsy things just like in that video.
14:28:11 <MrMobodies> actually they were mostly 286's and 386's down there
14:28:56 <MrMobodies> I think it was a Soyo motherboard the SiS 530 was on.
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16:17:02 <Halcyon> Just wishing everyone a Happy New Year in advance, in just under 8 hours' time. Doing a BBQ, some cocktails then bed on this end. Probably won't even stay up, we'll see.
16:21:45 * steve30 eyes up the BBQ :p
16:24:13 * steve30 nibbles Halcyon's sausages
17:50:17 <Halcyon> Afternoon peoples
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22:21:11 <electrohead> o/
22:21:29 <steve30> \o
22:23:06 * steve30 is HTMLing this morning
22:44:33 <electrohead> I'm prepping for a road trip, weee
23:25:22 <K> steve is being a little pervert!
23:25:36 <K> dont touch html, it might - touch you back
23:35:27 <Halcyon> Heh
23:35:30 <Halcyon> Evening all
23:35:45 <Halcyon> I should be in bed, but my partner is away for the night, so I'm all awake
23:44:11 <steve30> hi
23:47:43 <steve30> it probably helps if the air vent on a P4 system is /not/ blocked
23:48:17 <Halcyon> Probably
23:48:22 <Halcyon> Was it getting toasty?
23:48:46 <steve30> more "warm & cosy" than toasty :)
23:48:58 <Halcyon> Spoken like a true cat
23:51:35 <Ampera> How are things?
23:51:35 <Nothing\> merry holidays... although that's not terribly secular, either
23:51:35 <Nothing\> holiday literally meaning holy-day
23:51:35 <Ampera> happy shut the fuck up <3
23:51:35 <Nothing\> things are drugged to avoid breakdown for now
23:51:35 <Nothing\> Ampera, that works lol
23:51:35 <Ampera> just had prime rib with yorkshire puddings, corn, and mashed potatoes
23:51:35 <Ampera> with au jus
23:51:35 <Nothing\> the last 2 christmases i spent holding back tears the entire time i was celebrating with my mum, trying not to let on that i felt so bad and putting on a happy face
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23:51:35 <Nothing\> so i figure why not take a little something that will ensure i won't feel such things. I didn't even think about other people, as in "why am i the one feeling shitty while so many others have family and holiday cheer and things to look forward to etc. where it's just another day to me for the most part
23:51:35 <Nothing\> it's not ideal, but after 2 years of trying my damndest to hold it back with limited success, medication seemed a necessity. At least for the day.
23:51:35 <Nothing\> Ampera, mmm that sounds scrum-didly-umptious
23:51:35 <Nothing\> i just had a deliciously spiced ham, not sure what with but the glaze was out of this world, yellow Yukon Gold mashed potatoes, corn, pumpkin pie and fruit cake
23:51:35 <Nothing\> i also cleaned up pretty dang good for presents, for an adult
23:51:35 <Nothing\> my mum really spoiled me
23:51:35 <Nothing\> got me a lot of chemistry glassware I really needed. How many lay-moms do that?
23:51:35 <Nothing\> i didn't even tell her what i needed until after she bought them. She just knew.
23:51:35 <Nothing\> I got some cool retro game based... paintings or something. She gets me a couple every year, but they were such awful quality I had to tell her to take them back. The paint or whatever was so glossy you could barely see it and it was actually sticky, somehow
23:51:35 <Nothing\> which tells me it's water soluble which is not a great choice for a paint unless you're 5 and worried about making a mess
23:51:35 <Nothing\> i had to tell her to take a few things back because of the quality. Which she understands isn't me being ungrateful, just that I'm... I wouldn't say picky about it. But something like the overly-glossy look would be something I'd see every time I look at it and I would just never be able to enjoy it for what it is. I'd just be hyperfocused on this issue.
23:51:35 <Nothing\> i feel like that's an autistic thing
23:51:35 <Nothing\> not that i am (that i know of)
23:51:35 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/IMG_20251225_173542.jpg https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/IMG_20251225_173558.jpg https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/IMG_20251225_173612.jpg
23:51:35 <rust_collector> electrohead, that is +77 or 78
23:51:35 <rust_collector> a bit early to cut it, but... it is like that
23:51:35 <electrohead> Definitely not too early to cut it
23:51:35 <electrohead> It's been in the fridge since last night
23:51:35 <rust_collector> yes. it is around 5 or 6 hours early. But if it was here, it would be gone, so...
23:51:35 <electrohead> :p
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23:51:35 <K> oooh electrohead
23:51:35 <K> that looks suspiciously like what we call "honey-cake"
23:51:35 <K> but taken to the max
23:51:35 <K> +10 points to electrohead
23:51:35 <electrohead> exactly what it is, mmulti layer honey cake :D
23:51:35 <K> yay
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