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01:38:12 <arch> yes, try using an electric car in a state that gets below 0F in the winter
01:42:55 <Ampera> I'd consider electric for my next car
01:43:02 <Ampera> but I won't need a new car for potentially years
01:43:07 <Ampera> and I like my car
01:43:23 <Ampera> honestly any electric with a simulated manual would be one I'd look into
01:45:20 <arch> that seems pointless lol
01:47:27 <Ampera> arch, the point is that I enjoy driving a manual
01:47:34 <Ampera> but that it's also a manual you can turn off and drive as an automatic
01:47:40 <Ampera> well, as an EV-style auto anyways
01:47:58 <arch> that's kinda like handing over an unplugged player 2 controller to your younger sibling and pretending that they can play the game lol
01:48:34 <arch> there's no gears, so it wouldn't feel right
01:49:22 <Ampera> I'd be curious to see about that. I think a convincing simulation could be created, and there's indications that some manufacturers are playing with the idea.
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05:03:56 <arch> where's everyone at, bingo?
05:04:43 <Ampera> many people work for a living
05:08:33 * steve30 is sat at his thinkpad
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06:12:58 <K> soooo, u takin now iceland too, eh
06:14:20 <arch> now i have gained a bit more respect for transistors. they alone cannot be untrusted. we need to be unable to trust capacitors as well
06:14:46 <arch> usually a capacitor outright explodes or leaks no?
06:15:12 <rust_collector> they can just dry up, or... whatever also
06:15:38 <rust_collector> ask the swedes... they make the amazing rifa caps
06:16:19 <arch> who, orange man?
06:16:31 <K> ye
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06:19:55 <arch> SUCCESS! IT LIVES! MUWHAHAHAHA
06:20:19 <arch> i think ill put a small ceramic capacitor substituted for C3. do we even need 220uF across that zener?
06:20:51 <arch> in fact right now i dont have any capacitor across that zener. seems to be working fine. but im pretty sure you need some amount there for stability of the output rail
06:24:35 <arch> well, ok, it would appear the 100uF seems to be standard for these old linear regs. there's a hella lotta ripple on the 60Hz mains output rectified even with the large decoupling capacitor
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06:34:17 <Ampera> K, he went up on stage in Switzerland and told everyone there that if it wasn't for the US, they'd all be speaking German
06:34:47 <Ampera> more unhinged than a busted screen door
06:34:50 <K> jawohl!
06:36:00 <arch> good news: it works; bad news: it's 15.4V unloaded output. these old shits really had bad regulation, eh>
06:36:31 <arch> im gonna swap this out to a hybrid switched mode + LM317 output later
06:36:46 <rust_collector> what is it for?
06:36:46 <arch> so far, im happy i rescued it at least. good future power supply
06:36:53 <arch> it's for cb radio, 13.8V
06:37:43 <rust_collector> ok, so, how sensitive do you think cb radios are, to a bit up and down, on the voltage. they are meant to be used in old tractors and thing, no?
06:38:36 <arch> good point, older cars and tractors had nasty power rails
06:38:44 <rust_collector> new ones also
06:39:16 <rust_collector> it is not nice to be put in anything automotive
06:40:30 <rust_collector> I had a 2018 or 17 gm product here, that fried all kinds of things, because it was running at between 18 and 26v, depending on....something, probably.
06:40:42 <rust_collector> that was fun
06:40:54 <arch> on closer inspection, this parallel cap across the zener was 16V. maybe being constantly near its rated voltage wore out the cap and why it shorted out. anyways, i put a 50V 100uF replacement. we should be good for a while
06:42:36 <arch> rust_collector, what have you burned out so far
06:44:49 <rust_collector> what I have burned out? so many things, lol. the gm thing.. well, it toasted half of the ecu, so it did not have a 5v reference any more, but that was fine, because it was unable to see any voltage from the sensors anyway. the gateway module, which gm calls something, was...well, it was working, but unable to accept a key, I did not bother looking for more
06:46:02 <arch> dafuq. i thought smarter manufacturer would put some hefty TVS across all the rails
06:46:30 <rust_collector> they would, but as I said, this was a gm product
06:47:23 <arch> lol good point. scotty kilmer is always trash talking the,m
06:48:09 <rust_collector> ok. I was hoping one of the million posts about him quitting and/or being dead was true, lol
06:48:39 <rust_collector> but, they are certainly not like a 1995 toyota
06:49:11 <rust_collector> which means having a chronically optimistic speedometer, I think
06:56:05 <arch> just put some 10 inch lawn tractor tires on
07:00:27 * electrohead attaches tires to arch
07:01:50 <rust_collector> now he looks tired
07:13:53 <rust_collector> there are worse things, than speaking german
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07:20:16 <arch> oh neat, this lafayette 5A 13.8V power supply uses 2 of these, center tapped output FBR https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/3/5961/1/1n3212.pdf
07:20:17 <EEVBot> [url] Access to this page has been denied. | www.mouser.com
07:24:24 <arch> compared to the radioshack 2.5A one, this one is much more powerful, but worse design choices. has no primary side fuse, just secondary side fuse. the radioshack had a primary side fuse, secondary side 3A circuit breaker (fancy!)
07:25:04 <arch> also this one has no regulated output whatsoever. it's just 18V smoothed 13VAC rectified output
07:25:17 <arch> perhaps i was too harsh on the radioshack psu =(
07:25:32 <arch> this one is garbagë
07:25:54 <rust_collector> nah, it is just not what you want, for your ideas
07:25:56 <arch> this will be a better psu for modification, so i will put a label on it for later. now, i need to rebuild a carburetor
07:26:36 <rust_collector> why not make a simple fuel injection system?
07:26:43 <arch> where we're going, we don't need no regulated output!
07:27:18 <arch> yes, rust_collector, let me just make a fuel injection system for a stupid 25cc leafblower...
07:27:41 <rust_collector> that sounds like an interesting enough project?
07:27:56 <rust_collector> plenty of people used the megasquirt for stuff like that
07:30:07 <rust_collector> my chainsaw is somewhere in between. it uses a carb, but with a little computer, and some solenoids for the fuel. it runs really good, but it will not live as long as a proper carb
07:30:20 <arch> gulp...is it french?
07:30:33 <rust_collector> non
07:30:57 <Ampera> probably bavarian
07:31:17 <rust_collector> otoh, leaf blowers are stupid anyway. maybe spend your time on something useful
07:32:06 <arch> are you using that chainsaw for a carving contest? https://www.reddit.com/r/technicallythetruth/comments/1qb1ci2/annual_chainsaw_carving_competition/
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07:51:00 <K> ö!
07:52:21 <rust_collector> øøøøøø
07:54:12 <rust_collector> maybe we should agree on at least using the same alphabet. I vote for the... whatever it is, that they use in burma
07:55:18 <rust_collector> ဗောဓိငါးထောင် ဥယျာဉ်တော်
07:55:26 <rust_collector> I think it looks nice
08:06:57 <K> it is.
08:20:03 <K> how is cold over there, rust_collector ?
08:21:29 <rust_collector> cold? no
08:21:48 <rust_collector> +1.4
08:22:05 <K> eew. we had -16 this morning
08:22:49 <rust_collector> it is supposed to get colder in the next few days
08:22:53 <rust_collector> mwe will see
08:25:20 <arch> found another psu with seemingly the same issue. 0v output rail. what will it be this time... im guessing the same capacitor issue. i see a 470uF 16VDC cap across the zener. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174987829154
08:25:21 <EEVBot> [url] Vintage Numark Solid State Regulated DC Power Supply CB-170A 13.8v DC 3 AMP | eBay | www.ebay.com
08:25:32 <arch> this guy snorting crack or something. nobody's gonna pay $100 for that piece of shit
08:25:57 <arch> random chinese cap "jeowdah" wtf is that even
08:30:14 <arch> KABLOOEY! this one let out the magic smoke: https://i.imgur.com/aEGyc5T.jpeg
08:31:09 <arch> i dont have bigass 1W (?) resistor like that. gonna have to parallel a couple of 1/4W resistors
08:31:49 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9wn9mHMuVJc?feature=share
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08:32:30 <arch> HALT! this is an emoji free zone! $350 fine
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08:47:43 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVCB581Ibpc
08:47:43 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Judas Priest - Last Rose of Summer (Official Audio)⁩ | 5m 38s | Channel: ⁨JudasPriestVEVO⁩ | 318,091 views | 2021-02-10 - 08:00:31 UTC
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09:32:56 <arch> are you guys talking C or F
09:33:03 <arch> or K
09:33:14 <K> C
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11:53:35 <flyback> Halcyon, no Im good, I was just describing a block bowel attack and how a case of the shits would sadly be a good day for me
11:53:52 <Halcyon> Heh fair enough
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12:11:07 <arch> BOING! BOING! *me accidentally knocks over Halcyon's flowerpots*
12:11:14 <Halcyon> Hahah
12:11:27 <Halcyon> Don't worry, the Cockatoos already got to them
12:11:41 <Halcyon> One of the bastards shredded a sunflower we had growing
12:12:21 <arch> are they considered pests in aus? i consider deer pests. we dont have cockatoos, but we do have wild parakeets because people release them
12:12:46 <arch> deer and wild hogs are def pests
12:14:55 * arch loads shotgun with malicious intent
12:15:33 <MrMobodies> Feedback got rejected on Amazon
12:15:41 <MrMobodies> "Seller, order and shipping feedback
12:15:41 <MrMobodies> We don’t allow reviews or questions and answers that focus on:
12:15:42 <MrMobodies> Sellers and the customer service they provide
12:15:42 <MrMobodies> Ordering issues and returns
12:15:42 <MrMobodies> Shipping and packaging
12:15:42 <MrMobodies> Product condition and damage
12:15:42 <MrMobodies> Shipping cost and speed"
12:16:07 <MrMobodies> So I can't leave feedback anymore
12:18:15 <MrMobodies> "Ordering issues and returns". I ordered something, a new design turned up which has problems. So they can treat customers like sh*t and the buyer can't say anything
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14:42:04 <Nothing\> i feel bad about myself
14:42:39 <Nothing\> i started watching sailor moon last night because it was a fun show i used to watch as a kid. Then I got this sinking feeling realizing how weird it is for a 40 year old man to be watching Sailor Moon by society's standards.
14:44:20 <Nothing\> I felt like a brony in training or something. Even though I'm just watching it for nostalgia. Shows about friendship saving the day and working together and believing in yourself aren't exactly for "kids" my age. I've seen too much.
14:47:23 * Nothing\ realizes nobody here probably knows what Sailor Moon was. Either too young or wrong country.
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18:29:00 <arch> electrohead, are you able to hear this guy where you are? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7KAanZk9J0
18:29:00 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨CB Channel 6 - Prime Minister - Back Down!⁩ | 5m 2s | Channel: ⁨VA3JPX⁩ | 33,616 views | 2013-09-26 - 17:24:29 UTC
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18:36:27 <Nothing\> holy crap copper acetate looks cool once you grind it up
18:36:29 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/gFXBvXYy/20260113-230802.jpg
18:37:01 <Nothing\> just a kinda deep blue, almost black crystal. But it's such a gorgeous color ground up finely.
18:37:14 <Nothing\> I can see why they use it as a pigment in paints now
18:37:56 <Nothing\> and the color changed the more i ground up it up. It started blue and went more and more green the more finely it was ground
18:38:16 <Nothing\> freaking love transition metal compounds
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19:02:12 <steve30> cool
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22:59:20 <Ampera> <3
23:08:13 * electrohead hugs Ampera first, then explodes
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