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00:00:04 <T3sl4> i don't know any orgs like that around here :^)
00:00:17 <Ampera> so why did he lose all his money
00:01:18 <%Ysjoelfir> I dunno, maybe because he bought the fourth porsche sportscar half a year ago because it was on sale
00:01:43 <Ampera> maybe he'll be nice and give you it instead of a paycheck
00:01:57 <%Ysjoelfir> and since we can't buy any new products there is no further income for the "forwarding company"
00:02:33 <Ampera> and hence, this is why companies have bank accounts, and not just the owner
00:02:45 <Ampera> hope things turn out well for you either way, Ysjoelfir
00:02:57 <%Ysjoelfir> I hope so too
00:06:08 <T3sl4> hmmm, this pizza.. seems like it has all the good things in it individually, but somehow they've not come together to make a greater whole
00:06:48 <T3sl4> the extra garlic on the crust was a nice touch though
00:07:12 * T3sl4 blesses Ampera with infernal garlic breath
00:07:28 <%Ysjoelfir> hmmmm, garlic pizza
00:07:35 <Ampera> mmm, spicy blow
00:07:43 <%Ysjoelfir> might not be able to afford that soon <3
00:07:46 <%Ysjoelfir> xD
00:08:03 <Ampera> afaik food is the one thing in germany that can actually be not expensive
00:08:17 <Ampera> I mean you got most of your food from ukraine, so that kinda fucks that up
00:08:20 <T3sl4> some people have their sugardaddies/mommies. i'm positioning myself to be Ysjoelfir's garlicbreadaddy
00:08:38 <Ampera> sometimes I think the people in this channel go too far
00:08:40 <Ampera> but then I realize
00:08:42 <%Ysjoelfir> nomnomnom
00:08:43 <Ampera> it's my fault
00:08:48 <Ampera> I haven't gone far enough
00:09:09 <Ampera> so long as can still strangle someone, I can always fix this.
00:09:24 <T3sl4> it's all your fault
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00:18:38 <%Ysjoelfir> see, now even sandistan dies because of you
00:19:40 <T3sl4> single handedly caused the arab winter
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00:21:43 <T3sl4> oh, quick winter i guess
00:21:44 <watcher> now sandistan is back a live
00:22:40 * T3sl4 watches the watcher
00:23:12 * Ysjoelfir watches T3sl4 watching the watcher
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00:49:27 <jaymax> Brown bear, brown bear, what do you see?
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01:16:25 <%Ysjoelfir> So, right now one of our sales guys came over and told that we just canceled a lot of orders for new stuff. grrrreat!
01:17:16 * Ampera hands Ysjoelfir a beer, cool shades, popcorn, and a recliner
01:17:23 <Ampera> time to watch the flames
01:17:24 <%Ysjoelfir> thanks
01:18:05 * jaymax looks into coffee mug
01:18:07 <jaymax> This is fine.
01:18:27 <Ampera> tea, сука
01:21:50 <%Ysjoelfir> blyat
01:22:58 <Ampera> иди на хуй
01:23:08 <Ampera> russian is beautiful
01:23:19 <Ampera> you can just know all the swears and then know 95% of the whole language
01:33:40 <T3sl4> rust_collector electrohead https://imgur.com/gallery/IoBKKX6
01:39:43 <jaymax> Looks like a Steve French shirt to me.
01:40:21 <K> it is wierd to separate "на" and "хуй"
01:40:39 <K> usually is written as a single word
01:40:43 <Ampera> I barely understand what those words mean, I just went with the most reasonable thing
01:40:47 <Ampera> I usually combine them
01:41:09 <jaymacks> https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/89b7e2f7-f4dd-43a7-8992-4cc1dfa6836c/d7fi0uk-50dcac41-e582-4a6d-bf44-282c1c47ccf2.jpg
01:41:10 <%Ysjoelfir> døde røde rødøjede rådne røgede ørreder
01:41:51 <Ampera> as I understand it, хуй means penis, иди means go, and на means to/get on/eat/suck/whatever
01:41:52 <K> "иди" is verb, in indefinite form of it translates as "to go, to walk"
01:41:58 <jaymacks> Unauthorized FFS
01:42:06 <jaymacks> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/28fdfb57-f6d9-45eb-8a4e-0110b1dda72a/d7fi0uk-50dcac41-e582-4a6d-bf44-282c1c47ccf2.jpg
01:42:49 <K> "иди" in this case it is conjugated as an order to someone
01:43:39 <K> "нахуй", literaly is "onto a dick"
01:43:49 <K> closest in english would be "go fuck yourself"
01:44:09 <K> but there is more conotation in russian that i can not translate
01:45:12 <K> i do not see this as something that could be said as a joke to your mates
01:45:27 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
01:45:34 <Ampera> in english, all swears are things you say to your friends
01:45:47 <Ampera> jaymacks, you smell like shit and look like prolapse
01:45:50 <K> wel, you can say anything, if you are brave enough
01:45:50 <Ampera> see?
01:46:14 <Ampera> anything
01:47:09 <jaymacks> Reasonable.
01:49:28 <jaymacks> Like with Mandarin...know the names of animals, and a few sexual adjectives with ones like "old", "dirty", "bastard" (not an adjective but heh), and then you know 100% of the swears/slurs and 95% of the language.
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03:01:58 <electrohead> o/
03:13:44 <jaymax> \o_
03:15:44 <Ampera> hello electrohead
03:15:48 <Ampera> did you find your telephone yet?
03:16:05 <electrohead> nope :/
03:16:13 <K> soross stole it
03:16:36 <electrohead> lol
03:25:52 <jaymax> The Society of Revoking Open Source Software? You messing around with MediaTek hardware again electrohead?
03:26:45 <K> wot
03:27:05 <jaymax> Well what else is a SOROSS?
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04:28:40 <Nothing\> OMFGOMFGOMFG
04:29:07 <Nothing\> this canadian furniture store franchise that has a location here has a simpsons arcade cabinet ON SALE
04:29:42 <Nothing\> first off, what a weird fucking item for a big box furniture store to carry. It's this story called The Brick and I've never seen them sell anything besides furniture.
04:29:57 <Nothing\> but second off and most importantly, IT'S THE FUCKING SIMPSONS ARCADE GAME!!!!
04:30:05 <Nothing\> it's just too bad I haven't got $700 to drop on it
04:30:23 <Nothing\> and i don't feel like being duped into a $20/month rent to own plan
04:30:35 <Nothing\> how the hell long would that even take to pay off
04:31:55 <Nothing\> so that's $800 after sales tax. Plus another $200 for presumably interest
04:32:08 <Nothing\> and 20% seems like a reasonably high interest rate for a rent to own contract
04:32:25 <Nothing\> oh wait that's APR though. I'm thinking all together. That makes things different
04:32:56 <Nothing\> https://www.thebrick.com/products/arcade1up-the-simpsons-4-player-wi-fi-arcade-cabinet-with-riser
04:32:59 <Nothing\> :D~
04:42:50 <Nothing\> and hey, i know it's dead. But if any Brits are about, I was hoping you could answer a confusing thought i had.
04:43:06 <Nothing\> is there any such thing as British Ultranationalism?
04:43:13 <Nothing\> or UK ultranationalism?
04:43:18 <Nothing\> or is it basically an oxymoron?
04:43:52 <steve30> I'd say we have 'nationalists', but I;ve not heard of ultranationalism
04:43:55 <Nothing\> i mean being ultranationalist, you'd think they'd want a purely English country
04:44:25 <Nothing\> steve30, i'm not sure how real it is. It's a term I read that described the Norsefire government in V for Vendetta
04:44:48 <Nothing\> in the comic they were British ultranationalists, and in the movie they were English ultranationalists
04:44:54 <Nothing\> which i guess is like far far far right?
04:45:15 <steve30> We have things like the EDL and BNP
04:45:16 <steve30> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Defence_League
04:45:42 <steve30> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
04:45:57 <Nothing\> hrm i've never heard of them. But of course, even being Canadian I'm largely ignorant of such things as they're indirectly obscured by way of omission
04:46:11 <Nothing\> are these the guys who want scotland out?
04:46:19 <Nothing\> or is it scotland that wants out? I forget
04:46:26 <Nothing\> the whole thing's a confusing mess, it seems
04:46:59 <Nothing\> scotland, Ireland, North Ireland, Wales, which I don't even know where THEY fit into everything other than sorta being stuck in the middle, almost literally
04:47:20 <steve30> nah, quite a lot of scottish people wanted scotland to become independent from the UK, but they held a referendum and the majority voted to stay united
04:47:22 <Nothing\> and the fact that you have more than one bank that issues currency, i guess that's even confusing to brits.
04:47:44 <Nothing\> I've heard stories of English shops rejecting Scottish currency because they legit thought it was counterfeit
04:47:50 <Nothing\> because they'd never seen the stuff before
04:48:41 <steve30> Scotish money is pretty much worthless here. A shop can accept it if they like, and you can usually pay it in at a bank or exchange it at a post office, but it is not legal tender.
04:48:42 <Nothing\> steve30, in fairness, I don't think scotland would be recognized as worldwide as it is if not for being part of the UK
04:48:50 <Nothing\> and i think it's on Britain, isn't it?
04:48:54 <Nothing\> to the north
04:49:06 <Nothing\> i have no clue again when it comes to british/uk geography
04:49:36 <steve30> it is situated at the top of england
04:49:47 <jaymacks> AFAICT there's a lot of skepticism to say, Arab culture in the UK.
04:50:00 <Nothing\> ah yeah i thought so. Good to know my Uk geography isn't completely off
04:50:30 <steve30> It can get confusing.
04:50:30 <Nothing\> jaymacks, really? They always seemed more accepting of it to me. But that could just be baseless speculation
04:50:52 <steve30> e.g. the Channel Islands are part of Great Britain, but are NOT part of the United Kingdom.
04:51:11 <steve30> Northen Ireland is part of the UK. Ireland is not.
04:51:12 <Nothing\> oh weird
04:51:20 <Nothing\> see i always thought all of britain was part of the UK
04:51:25 <Nothing\> but not vice versa
04:52:01 <Nothing\> my understanding is England is a country on an island called Britain, which is part of a country, encompassing scotland, wales, south ireland and maybe some others, called the UK
04:52:37 <jaymax> It's weird, but it's part investigations of "grooming gangs" being swept under the rug because the police said "well we don't know if it's part of their culture or not" - which now means anyone bringing it up is now a racist.
04:52:41 <Nothing\> and i just assumed all british isles save for parts of ireland were UK
04:52:48 <Nothing\> also, what's the adjective form of UK
04:52:51 <Nothing\> or possessive form
04:53:07 <jaymax> Similar old problems that led to the whole Brexit deal.
04:53:14 <Nothing\> i mena there's englishman
04:53:16 <Nothing\> brit
04:53:19 <Nothing\> limey, etc
04:53:26 <Nothing\> but nothing that refers specifically to the UK afaik
04:53:32 <jaymax> Ukers
04:53:38 <Nothing\> yeah, that's what i would think
04:53:48 <Nothing\> but it just feels so awkward in the mouth
04:53:54 <Nothing\> THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
04:54:09 <Nothing\> ah man
04:54:17 <steve30> We just say Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman, Irishman
04:54:25 <Nothing\> jaymax, did you see what i posted earlier?
04:54:32 <steve30> Although these days if you say that you may get told off for misgendering someone
04:54:42 <Nothing\> jaymax, you have The Brick there, right?
04:54:46 <Nothing\> the furniture store
04:55:06 <jaymax> We do.
04:55:07 * steve30 wonders what food to have
04:55:22 <Nothing\> jaymax, how'd you like one of these babies
04:55:24 <Nothing\> https://www.thebrick.com/products/arcade1up-the-simpsons-4-player-wi-fi-arcade-cabinet-with-riser
04:55:30 <jaymax> The presence of Wifi in a cabinet makes it seem like mass-produced trash.
04:55:36 <Nothing\> yeah i just noticed that
04:55:41 <Nothing\> i thought it was an original
04:55:44 <Nothing\> but yeah no
04:55:51 <Nothing\> i'm not paying anything over $300 for a repro
04:56:00 <jaymax> Probably has bluetooth too.
04:56:04 <Nothing\> it's probably just a fucking raspberry pi running MAME
04:56:44 <jaymax> If so, is basically a RetroPie and ancient display built into a woodchip box.
04:57:01 <jaymax> ah. Ninga'd
05:01:14 <Nothing\> jaymax, at most i'd expect an FPGA but i don't think your average joe needs or cares about an FPGA emulator
05:01:20 <Nothing\> i know i sure wouldn't pay a premium for one
05:01:39 <Nothing\> i don't even see the point unless you're dealing with really rare hardware with hard to find chips or something.
05:13:04 <jaymax> I see the chic thing for arcade machines is in rescuing one from a bankrupt bowling alley, etc - or rolling your own (e.g. a kit from The Geek Pub). I'd personally find a pinball machine to be a cooler option from the aforementioned reasons, but the demand for space dumps cold water on the whole idea. Buying arcades new is like buying puppies at a shop in the mall - the idea just makes me feel dirty.
05:15:16 <jaymax> It also got that predatory market to it, like FunkoPop collections or Pimped-Out Geo Metro cars - it's for the rich or those who want to feel rich.
05:16:49 <jaymax> Not unlike Homer Simspson buying himself a Talking Astrolabe for Christmas.
05:19:04 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/60Z9VRt.jpeg
05:21:10 <jaymax> WHYYYYY
05:21:34 <T3sl4> because
05:21:41 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/6ZmSFlB.jpg
05:22:55 <jaymacks> https://khaaan.net/
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05:35:28 <arch> how do you do, fellow weaboos
05:36:50 * T3sl4 patpats arch
05:36:53 <jaymax> peek-a-boo
05:38:18 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
05:38:18 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:27 2020
05:48:19 <arch> who's stocking up on bottlecaps?
05:48:50 <arch> bottlecaps and mc34063 are the new currency of the post apocalyptic world
05:48:55 <T3sl4> one $3 bottle of microbrew at a time
05:49:00 <arch> i have plenty of the latter, but not many bottlecaps
06:14:02 <jaymax> Seems like a non-serious effort subjugated by Fallout memes.
06:14:46 <jaymax> At the very least, have little mickey bottles of liquor for currency.
06:16:19 <jaymax> But for real effort, get your dried goods in, basic capacity to grow vegetables (for flavour), GSB without putting yourself in debt.
06:16:30 <jaymax> In that order.
06:17:31 <jaymax> BTW arch I still have some cork-sealed capping caps.
06:19:00 <jaymacks> Saved since the last time we had a depression.
06:19:10 <jaymacks> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/6c25c9fc-cb3a-497c-98cd-1cbe822f0b5e/Xe9E5m0nQRy07VrmeAS2NQ.jpg
06:24:14 <jaymacks> https://youtu.be/2Jukkw3Qs90
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06:55:28 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/19gJzei
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07:13:30 <Nothing\> haha!
07:13:53 <Nothing\> bylaw may not be able to do anything about my neighbours' noisy dogs disrupting my ability to reasonably enjoy my apartment
07:14:04 <Nothing\> but there's a provincial law that i can hit em with
07:14:35 <Nothing\> the definition of criminal mischief is exactly that, any interruption of reasonable enjoyment of property
07:15:45 <Nothing\> which you'd think that'd be my landlord's responsibility to deal with. If one of their tenants is committing illegal acts against another. Especially regarding property and reasonable use and enjoyment.
07:16:17 <Nothing\> but that's life in the west. Everybody slightly less than the bare minimum of what's expected (not required) of them
07:16:30 <Nothing\> *everybody does
07:17:18 <Nothing\> anyhoo, i got these dill pickle carrot chips that caught my eye at the pharmacy. They're interesting, but tasty.
07:17:43 <Nothing\> I wasn't sure at first because it hits you with about 4 different flavours in distinct phases as you chew it
07:17:56 <Nothing\> some good, some awful, some amazing
07:17:58 <Nothing\> but mostly good
07:19:12 <T3sl4> m'fuggin pickles
07:19:51 <Nothing\> hehe i'm not sure how i feel about actual pickles. I suppose I enjoy kosher pickles in moderation.
07:19:52 <T3sl4> Nothing\: you like giardiniera?
07:19:54 <Nothing\> oh shiiit
07:20:14 <Nothing\> T3sl4, never heard of it. plz to be explaining for el Nothing\
07:20:38 <T3sl4> pickled veg including hot peppers to varying amounts, then packed with oil
07:21:03 <T3sl4> good on sandwiches esp hotdog/sausage
07:21:31 <T3sl4> kinda hard to control because the oil just goes everywhere? but it's alright
07:22:45 <Nothing\> hrm interesting
07:23:05 <Nothing\> not sure it'd be my thing though. not a fan of sausage. I know i'm a bad German. lol
07:24:18 <Nothing\> oh yeah T3sl4, my babies
07:24:20 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/NxLHRN7/Calcium-Acetate.jpg
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07:24:42 <T3sl4> looks about right
07:24:45 <Nothing\> such lovely crystals. It reminds me of aspirin. There was a nilered video where he extracted aspirin and the crystals looked the same
07:25:02 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah i looked up the wiki article and immediately knew i got it right
07:25:04 <T3sl4> was that separated, drained and washed? or just kinda let the whole thing dry to a crust
07:25:57 <DHess_US> https://img.pr0gramm.com/2022/03/03/a648b84375825d2f.jpg
07:26:10 <Nothing\> nothing really lol I literally just chucked some eggshells in vinegar in a popcorn bowl, let the whole lot dissolve without crushing so I was able to just pull the inner membrane out and it was clean enough I didn't need to really filter it
07:26:34 <Nothing\> i mean there was a bit of browish discoloration you can see but it's really slight considering how little processing i did
07:26:37 <Nothing\> which is to say none
07:26:59 <Nothing\> heh i found the only real use for the stuff though is making "california snowballs"
07:27:26 <Nothing\> you mix it with high proof ethanol and it becomes a flammable jelly. Which just makes me think of napalm.
07:27:33 <Nothing\> I'd have called it poor man's napalm
07:27:49 <Nothing\> only scarier because alcohol flames are invisible
07:28:11 <Nothing\> ah yeah speaking of programs
07:28:15 <T3sl4> oh, as i recall, dry distillation gives acetone or something?
07:28:28 <Nothing\> i was gonna make one for fun just to test an algorithm i came up with last night to test for square numbers
07:29:10 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah actually i do recall some reaction that yields acetone. I don't recall the details though I just sorta skimmed through it since making acetone isn't very interesting to me.
07:29:17 <Kuschelpony> t3 yes it does
07:29:24 <Nothing\> though it would be nice to have acetone for making chloroform
07:29:25 <T3sl4> if you grab a few granules and heat them on the burner, you'll likely find it flames a bit as it chars, but that isn't really indicative of acetone in particular :P
07:30:20 <Kuschelpony> i have not yet treid it (can still buy acetone here) but it is said that dry distilling calcium acetate can give upto 25% acetone, sodium acetate is more like 10%
07:30:38 <DHess_US> Why would anybody ban acetone?
07:30:52 <DHess_US> It is one of the few non-toxic solvents which is not water.
07:31:19 <T3sl4> you can just about drink it, though it's not going to be a pleasant drunk
07:31:43 <DHess_US> non-toxic doesn't mean it won't kill you if you drink it. Salt is non-toxic also.
07:32:08 <DHess_US> It acetone were not so flammable, it would be really useful.
07:32:19 <Kuschelpony> dhess, i think its related about unstable exothermic compounds... but to make them the very well known substance has already been banned long ago
07:32:35 <Nothing\> okay time for a nap i think
07:32:38 <Nothing\> g'night folks
07:32:41 <Nothing\> take care <3
07:32:44 <Kuschelpony> acetone is the really one thing you cant substitute when 3d printing in ABS
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11:50:16 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/9BcTtV6
11:54:06 <coppice> DHes_US: nice
12:06:17 <electrohead> o/
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12:07:38 <Nothing\> hey hey hey
12:07:57 <Nothing\> i FINALLY saw a doctor about my stomach today
12:08:08 <Nothing\> only what? 6 months after i started being in horrible pain almost every day
12:08:28 <Nothing\> though thank god it's gotten better but i'm terrified to the point of panic attacks that it's going to come back at any moment
12:08:52 <Nothing\> it doesn't help that it feels like it could. I mean it's never really stopped, just settled down.
12:09:20 <Nothing\> but at least i'll get some imaging and stuff done to look at things. No scopes (yet) thankfully. I was pretty much resigned to the fact that i'd have to do that
12:09:57 <Nothing\> it's not so much the scope that worries me. They drug you up good for that bit. It's the literal shitloads of laxatives they give you the night before to clean you out stomach to asshole
12:10:33 <Nothing\> but hey i'm full of shit anyways so it'd do me some good
12:11:34 <Nothing\> ohhhh snap
12:11:41 <Nothing\> top russian general was killed in a sniper attack
12:11:43 <Nothing\> haha
12:12:25 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgy_FfGUnY
12:12:26 <Ampera> sauce
12:12:37 <Nothing\> you'd think if it was bigger news they'd like... actually put a HUMAN on the story
12:12:53 <Nothing\> not just run some bot generated video about it
12:13:53 <Nothing\> it seems kind of funny to be putting a general right in combat too but what do i know.
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12:14:47 <Nothing\> if they wouldn't even let subordinates salute commanding officers during vietnam in fear that a VC would decide to pick him off as a trophy prize, you'd think it'd be common sense not to send your general into an active warzone by parachute
12:15:12 <Nothing\> but i dunno maybe generals DO operate on the field directly sometimes. But that doesn't seem necessary anymore.
12:15:20 <Nothing\> but
12:15:23 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera
12:15:36 * Ampera kisses Nothing\ sensually on the lips
12:15:38 <Nothing\> how frand r do?
12:15:56 <Nothing\> BADTOUCH!
12:16:03 <Nothing\> INEEDAGROWNUP
12:16:34 <Nothing\> oh yeah i was gonna dl and read the V for Vendetta graphic novel
12:16:55 <Ampera> I am awake I guess
12:17:00 <Ampera> watching chernobyl #2 happen
12:17:02 <Nothing\> never read a graphic novel. But I liked the movie enough and i'm interested to know more back story and what not.
12:17:13 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh? what are the russians doing with it now?
12:17:24 <Ampera> they've shelled the largest nuclear power plant in europe
12:17:26 <Ampera> which is now on fire
12:17:30 <Nothing\> oh fuck
12:17:33 <Nothing\> yeah i saw that
12:17:38 <Ampera> I'm seeing it live
12:17:39 <Ampera> sorta
12:17:44 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8
12:17:53 <Ampera> might want to skip back a bit, the camera view's going all over the place for some reason
12:18:09 <Nothing\> wow shell attack
12:18:15 <Nothing\> didn't the russians take chernobyl?
12:18:19 <Nothing\> why are they shelling it?
12:19:01 <Ampera> it's not chernobyl
12:19:09 <Ampera> as I said, this is chernobyl #2: eletric boogaloo
12:19:54 <Ampera> "A government official tells The Associated Press elevated levels of radiation are being detected near the site of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant"
12:20:17 <Nothing\> that could mean anything
12:20:33 <Nothing\> i mean there are elevated levels of radiation around there as it is, so technically he could be referring to that.
12:20:54 <Nothing\> but in any case, i know enough about the original meltdown to know it could have been MUCH MUCH worse
12:20:59 <Nothing\> like, nuclear bomb worse
12:21:08 <Nothing\> maybe not a literal nuclear bomb, but the level of fallout
12:21:20 <Nothing\> especially if the winds were going a different direction
12:21:45 <Nothing\> like, this is something that WILL contaminate everything on earth to at least some degree in the worst case scenario
12:22:03 <Nothing\> but having said that, that's worse case scenario right? So let's hope luck's still on our side.
12:22:13 <Nothing\> lucky and good old fashioned Ukrainian piss and vinegar
12:22:57 <Nothing\> God bless those lads. I've never seen a more patriotic bunch. They make you Americans look like... I dunno who's known for not being patriotic
12:23:07 <Nothing\> sudanese?
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12:24:37 <jaymax> Hollywood. /s
12:25:20 <Nothing\> wait so it's not actually chernobyl that's on fire
12:25:30 <jaymax> Remember how the American flag is a symbol of white supremacy?
12:25:37 <jaymax> Of course not Nothing\
12:26:28 <jaymax> Shelling hit an active plant.
12:27:20 <jaymax> 21:19 < Ampera> "A government official tells The Associated Press elevated levels of radiation are being detected near the site of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant"
12:27:30 <jaymax> >Zaporizhzhia
12:27:40 <Nothing\> jaymax, chernobyl's active
12:27:46 <Nothing\> only reactor 4 was damaged
12:27:51 <Nothing\> the other 3 are still running to this day
12:28:00 <Ampera> no they're not
12:28:03 <jaymax> Huh?
12:28:10 <Nothing\> Ampera, you sure?
12:28:14 <Nothing\> lemme check
12:28:14 <jaymax> Nothing\ that's been shutted long ago
12:28:16 <Ampera> They did keep the other three running for a decent time after the accident, but they're long shut down by now
12:28:22 <Nothing\> oh okay
12:28:27 <Nothing\> that's where my confusion is
12:28:31 <Nothing\> my bad
12:28:35 <jaymax> Damn-well paved over
12:28:50 <Nothing\> jaymax, well i'm familiar with the structure they erected over the sarcaphagus
12:28:57 <Nothing\> which is a marvel of engineering in itself really
12:29:05 <Ampera> seems they've been shut down since late 2000
12:29:16 <Nothing\> it's just sad that disasters and wars are always what bring us to our most brilliant innovations
12:29:25 <Nothing\> you ever notice that?
12:29:37 <jaymax> Yes
12:30:06 <Nothing\> without war we ewouldn't have computers, nuclear power, space travel
12:30:14 <Nothing\> actually, without nazis we wouldn't have space travel
12:30:17 <Nothing\> how fucked up is that?
12:30:18 <jaymax> Printing press brought on the Prostesant Reformation which was nothing short of....messy.
12:30:58 <Nothing\> The US could only figure out how to make working rockets after they hired Werner Von Braun during Operation Paperclip where they took all of the jewish scientists out of germany
12:31:11 <jaymax> Operation Paperclip was fact, but not pivotal on Nazi scientists.
12:31:14 <Nothing\> actually i could be wrong again, it may not have been paperclip that was part of
12:31:31 <Nothing\> jaymax, no but it was pivotal for the development of the american space program
12:31:38 <Nothing\> von braun himself designed the saturn v
12:31:38 <jaymax> Operation Paperclip meant getting them before Russains did.
12:31:46 <Nothing\> jaymax, ah was that the end game
12:31:48 <Nothing\> makes sense
12:31:51 <jaymax> Yup.
12:32:01 <Nothing\> actually that's another thing
12:32:07 <Nothing\> the russians wouldn't have nukes if not for the americans
12:32:20 <jaymax> Eh?
12:32:36 <Nothing\> the only reason the russians developed nukes as fast as they did was spies stealing secrets from americans. And you know the only reason they ever even pursued the technology as hard as they did was war
12:32:41 <jaymax> Spies abound - even nazi germany had progress on that.
12:32:50 <Nothing\> jaymax, they did and they didn't
12:33:13 <Nothing\> they understood it but they didn't have the materials or facilities or the full picture necessary to build a functioning reactor
12:33:15 <Nothing\> much less a bomb
12:33:26 <jaymax> True
12:33:32 <Nothing\> their most advanced reactor was literally cubes hung from strings
12:33:35 <Nothing\> i'm not even kidding
12:33:59 <jaymax> LOL, even the atomic boyscout made better progress.
12:34:08 <Nothing\> yeah here it is
12:34:10 <Nothing\> https://www.wearethemighty.com/uploads/legacy/assets.rbl.ms/19576285/origin.jpg
12:34:24 <Nothing\> i think they were the control rods, i forget how it worked
12:34:39 <Nothing\> like, they'd lower them into the reactor to moderate the speed
12:34:59 <Nothing\> i'd have to look up how it worked to be sure though but they do look graphite
12:35:53 <DHess_US> No, those are the enriched uranium cubes. They were lowered into a tank of heavy water which acts as the moderator.
12:36:20 <jaymacks> https://medium.com/marvels-of-history/the-story-behind-the-atomic-boy-scout-8cc644dd7824
12:36:26 <Nothing\> DHess_US, thank you. I knew it used heavy water but i was trying for the life of me to remember how.
12:36:32 <Nothing\> that makes a lot more sense
12:36:52 <Nothing\> like i knew it used heavy water as a moderator, so using graphite cubes made no sense to me
12:36:54 <DHess_US> Germany couldn't use graphite as a moderator like everybody else because the process they used to make their graphite contaminated it with boron (?), but they did not know that.
12:37:13 <Nothing\> the idea of lowering the actual fission product into the reactor instead of the control rods is just ass backwards lol
12:37:54 <Nothing\> DHess_US, ah
12:38:00 <Nothing\> that's interesting
12:38:13 <Nothing\> lol and people thought they were using the heavy water for hydrogen bombs
12:38:26 <Nothing\> i wonder if they even knew about fusion
12:38:34 <DHess_US> And heavy water reactors do not require the uranium to be as enriched, or at all. You can make a heavy water reactor that works on natural uranium, which is a fast way to produce plutonium.
12:39:08 <Nothing\> i wonder who discovered the concept of fusion
12:39:20 <Nothing\> wasn't einstein the one who discovered fission mathematically
12:39:40 <Nothing\> or was he just the prestigious guy who wrote truman to warn him about it?
12:40:00 <Nothing\> oh yeah
12:40:04 <Nothing\> hahn and meitner
12:41:02 <Nothing\> but it's hard to figure out if by discover they mean they demonstrated fission experimentally? Or that they predicted it mathematically like physicists seem to do so often?
12:41:23 <Nothing\> because i know they were aware of it for some time before they actually worked out how to make a reactor
12:41:25 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Bethe#United_States
12:41:54 <Nothing\> yeah i didn't think 1938 sounded right for the discovery of fission
12:42:02 <Nothing\> maybe the first demonstration
12:43:22 <Nothing\> DHess_US, that's actually really interesting because i was going to follow up by saying you don't hear much about the mathematical prediction of fusion the way you do about fission
12:46:02 <DHess_US> It was well known in stellar nuclear synthesis. Helium was discovered on the sun before it was discovered on Earth.
12:50:25 <Nothing\> ah yeah spectral emission lines
12:50:44 <Nothing\> i actually got a little cheap spectroscope a while ago. It's a neat toy.
12:51:00 <Nothing\> not a lot of different sources though
12:51:21 <Nothing\> at least not that are bright enough to give good lines but not so bright as to blind me
12:53:29 <Nothing\> jaymacks, there's actually a good video on youtube about him
12:53:35 <Nothing\> actualy wasn't his name david hahn
12:53:43 <Nothing\> the nuclear boyscout
12:53:43 <jaymax> Yes.
12:53:47 <Nothing\> hah!
12:54:02 <Nothing\> i never realized how funny that coincidence is
12:54:14 <Nothing\> i bet that's a big part of what inspired him
12:54:24 <Nothing\> he probably told people he was related to otto hahn
12:54:37 <Nothing\> you know, like a little schoolyard fib
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19:42:20 <DogWomble> you going to be around in a bit @Teeed ? i want to try for either some CAH or some jackbox
19:42:53 <T3sl4> sure
19:44:40 <DogWomble> just need to wait for @Halcyon to get hgis dinner on the slowe cooker, shouldn be too long i hope
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19:52:57 <K> (but nice worms)
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20:07:46 <Halcyon> Again?
20:07:52 <Halcyon> I already showered once
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22:04:52 <doggyrat> T3sl4: :) it looks funny
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22:05:44 <doggyrat> unfortunately the real fights will go on because Putin knows that this is the end of his career
22:06:19 <doggyrat> i guess he wants to end it with a victory over Ukraine
22:06:59 <T3sl4> i wonder how long he can keep it together, and how much he'll lash out in the process
22:15:13 <doggyrat> he has nothing to lose , Putin is intelligent and i hope he knows that he politically will not survive the pressure
22:15:38 <doggyrat> sorry i need to go
22:15:43 <T3sl4> o/
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22:15:55 <jaymax> \o_
23:13:38 <steve30> o/
23:15:30 <jaymax> \o__o/
23:19:22 <K> lets cut one of the heads off, see what happens
23:19:44 <jaymax> Cut one off, three grow back.
23:20:18 <jaymax> \ooo_
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23:26:33 <electrohead> o/
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23:29:20 <electrohead> hey man, lol
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23:29:36 <jaymax> Whaddup?
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23:30:41 <electrohead> nothing too much here, about to get ready soon to head out for the next two nights, possibly
23:30:49 <electrohead> at least not coming home tonight
23:30:58 <electrohead> and, going to see my female friend I have, down here
23:31:00 <electrohead> :)
23:31:30 <T3sl4> i made the mistake of trying to install a dev toolchain on this debian laptop i have
23:32:04 <Ampera> Toolchains are easy so long as the project uses up to date, mainstream tools.
23:32:33 <Ampera> It's when people have dumb dependencies like specific versions of gcc that it starts to get irritating
23:33:55 <electrohead> looks like you'll be putting way more time into that, now
23:34:01 <electrohead> I believe in you, though
23:34:03 <electrohead> :)
23:34:39 <T3sl4> even for as little dev as i do, i've already begun to notice the subtle differences between GCCs
23:35:16 <T3sl4> like there was one STM Cube project i inherited that builds in, ARM GCC 8 or whatever they use, i happened to install 9, and it barfed a bunch
23:35:34 <T3sl4> shared variables weren't extern'd, but that's the default behavior in 8-
23:36:37 <Ampera> This is why docker was invented.
23:36:47 <Ampera> So awful developers wouldn't have to /actually/ maintain their poorly written software
23:37:13 <T3sl4> let's see, this is... whatever debian it is i guess, but desktop is xfce 4.12 for point of reference
23:37:18 <Ampera> don't worry, docker fixes that by having its own even worse dependency hell
23:37:34 <Ampera> what is a desktop
23:37:46 <T3sl4> desktop client?
23:37:50 <T3sl4> the thing that does the shiny
23:38:01 <Ampera> glass teletype?
23:39:11 <T3sl4> teeny display on this thing, 1366x768
23:39:26 <T3sl4> 1.4GHz quad core A6-3400M too
23:39:42 <T3sl4> i guess it really shouldn't be so surprising that chromium scrolls pretty laggy on some pages..
23:40:21 <Ampera> that is surprising
23:40:24 <Ampera> sounds like a misconfig
23:40:36 <Ampera> because that laptop is perfectly capable of running chromium
23:41:22 <T3sl4> shrug
23:42:39 <T3sl4> i ran sudo apt-get upgrade, what more could it want
23:44:06 <Ampera> chromium has various GL backends, EGL being usually the most performant
23:44:19 <Ampera> however chromium can fall all the way back to Skia on X11, which will be slow as molasses
23:44:51 <Ampera> ensuring you have GPU drivers installed properly (you probably do) and enabling/forcing on EGL should at least net you smooth scrolling
23:45:47 <T3sl4> it's not everything, just some pages
23:46:19 <T3sl4> i assume using newer css features or something, or js butting in to emulate smooth scroll or something idk
23:47:02 <T3sl4> text also looks like ass in general, but i think that's a mix of being used to a much higher res screen, and it doesn't have truetype
23:47:28 <T3sl4> well, not like ass, just kinda ass
23:48:01 <T3sl4> er, cleartype
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