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05:50 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Err, I have seen it, and it was so memorable I had completely forgotten, and for good reason...
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07:27 <Ampera> https://slashdot.org/story/22/03/04/1357239/bbc-resurrects-wwii-era-shortwave-broadcasts-as-russia-blocks-news-of-ukraine-invasion
07:28 <EEVBot> [Title] - BBC Resurrects WWII-era Shortwave Broadcasts as Russia Blocks News of Ukraine Invasion - Slashdot
07:28 <Ampera> cc electrohead
10:55 <steve30> cool
11:05 <steve30> now they just need to ban the sale of shortwave radios
16:21 <T3sl4> hey so, why is it that, when i search for a package with apt-get, or aptitude or whatever, and i just get gibberish, or nonexistent
16:37 <Ampera> how are you searching for it
17:02 <T3sl4> python3.9 for example
17:15 <T3sl4> i can literally see it in the listing here https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3.9
17:16 <Ampera> yes, but what command are you running
17:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - Debian -- Details of package python3.9 in sid
17:24 <Ampera> that's a listing in sid
17:42 <Ampera> bookworm and bullseye have it though, so that's fine
18:11 <T3sl4> when i sudo apt-get install python3.9 it wants to install some postgresql thing, which were the first matches by the look of it
19:54 <Ampera> that's not searching, but you are using the correct package name it seems
20:14 <Ampera> a screenshot or pastebin of the command output would be helpful
20:26 <T3sl4> when i click on a version on that page, it suggests adding mirrors to /etc/apt/sources.list (but fails to mention that it's read only, fine so i have to sudo edit it)
20:35 <T3sl4> but adding them doesn't seem to change anything
20:40 <Ampera> you shouldn't have to add anything
20:51 <T3sl4> (the original line is stretch, for what it's worth)
22:20 <Ampera> ah, I see
22:26 <Ampera> python3.9 isn't available on debian stretch
22:44 <Ampera> you can try to pull from newer, but that doesn't tend to work well
22:57 <T3sl4> https://pastebin.com/raw/5Qrqfz0c
23:16 <Ampera> if you added the bullseye mirror, then you must apt update
23:47 <Ampera> but you'd be better off updating to bullseye or bookworm if possible, as stretch is EOL in a few months
24:16 <T3sl4> where's the box to tick that?
24:41 <T3sl4> matter of fact where's the box to do any of that, so far as i can see applications only EVER update by manual command
25:51 <Ampera> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade
25:52 <EEVBot> [Title] - DebianUpgrade - Debian Wiki
29:06 <rust_collector> arrgh, why you use debian?
29:21 <Ampera> Nothing wrong with Debian.
29:27 <K> debian is fine
29:34 <T3sl4> it was on the laptop
29:41 <rust_collector> ok, that makes sense
29:45 <Ampera> It's reasonably well documented, and so long as you're patient and look things up, it's quite usable for light desktop and server tasks
30:02 <T3sl4> it's dual boot with w10, i'm trying to put in the effort to use a *nix
30:12 <T3sl4> still not seeing the advantage tbh
30:28 <Ampera> Linux does not make your life easier as a windows native.
30:34 <T3sl4> hmm, that last one seems to have broken sudo
30:44 <Ampera> If that's the experience you are looking for, you will be disappointed
30:53 <Ampera> sudo shutdown -r now?
31:47 <rust_collector> not without sudo working
31:48 <Ampera> if sudo is broken, su should work, you'll just need the root password
32:00 <rust_collector> "root"
32:29 <Ampera> su will put you in a root terminal, which you can then use to do what you're trying to do.
32:53 <Ampera> that being said, if you're trying to upgrade, I'd suggest you retrace your steps, as that's way too fast for a full system upgrade
32:55 <Ampera> at least ime
36:51 <T3sl4> i just want my toolchain man
37:12 <T3sl4> oh cool, i even broke the temrinal
37:43 <Ampera> This is an unpopular opinion, but if you actually want to use Linux, you need to invest time and effort into putting it together yourself, at least to start with.
38:05 <Ampera> Linux can do almost everything, and with a tool that can do almost everything comes the very real problem of getting it to work.
38:06 <T3sl4> so, no one should ever want to use it? good to know
38:13 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
38:22 <Ampera> It helped launch my career in computing and technology.
39:14 <Ampera> I spent a few weeks working on getting archlinux running as my sole operating system, and am still using it to this day. It was insanely educational with regard to the finer points of computing, and has given me insight and skills that even industry veterans at my own company don't yet have.
39:17 <T3sl4> oh cool, i even bricked it
39:27 <T3sl4> not bad for just two commands, and i wasn't even using rm *
39:39 <Ampera> It's like a manual car. You get more control at the expense of it being harder to drive.
39:48 <T3sl4> i see a [FAILED] Failed to start LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent. on screen
39:58 <Ampera> lol, exim
40:10 <Ampera> that's not a fatal problem
40:35 <T3sl4> among other things, that doesn't sound like the thing that'd block desktop from starting up but most other things say [OK] and it just flashed a bit before stopping here
40:45 <Ampera> do ctrl+alt+f2
41:02 <Ampera> with any luck that should plop you at a login screen
41:36 <Ampera> if it doesn't (and alt+f2 and shift+alt+f2 don't work) then that means you're still in the init process and are probably waiting on something
42:39 <rust_collector> some times, you get stupid things, like waiting for the network to connect, and such.
42:56 <T3sl4> it took forever, but it's got a login
43:12 <Ampera> graphical or text
43:18 <T3sl4> text
43:44 <Ampera> you can check back on what (probably lightdm) the graphical one is doing by doing ctrl+alt+f1
43:59 <Ampera> and then switch to different virtual terminals by doing ctrl+alt+f#
44:05 <T3sl4> uh, what format is this login supposed to be? it doesn't look to be waiting for a pw
44:19 <Ampera> username, hit return, and then password
44:24 <Ampera> if it's frozen, then it's waiting for something
44:51 <T3sl4> oh the f1 one looks more systemy
45:04 <Ampera> f1 should be your graphical login manager
45:18 <Ampera> should be, if it managed to get as far as starting X
46:22 <T3sl4> none of them say anything other than "Login incorrect" after a dubious pause
47:00 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
47:11 <rust_collector> I think x is often on f7?
47:11 <Ampera> not much else I can do sitting from here
47:22 <T3sl4> it is
47:28 <Ampera> X can start on any screen, but most of the time it's F1
47:42 <Ampera> that's how it is on my native archlinux and freebsd
48:05 <rust_collector> not on mine, lol. but I just use weird bastardised debian things
48:17 <Ampera> that being said, I also manually start my X on vtty1, so I'm just special in that regard
48:29 <T3sl4> CTRL+ALT+INS reboots?
49:57 <T3sl4> oh no wait that was probably DEL duh
28:17 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/0xEi84x.png
30:30 <Ampera> I don't see a problem
30:40 <Ampera> obviously this guy's more concerned about it going sideways than forward/backward
31:04 <rust_collector> as you should be
31:32 <rust_collector> if it does go sideways, it is probably something serious
32:05 <%Ysjoelfir> So... I think I got lucky. I grabbed an "old" GPU from work that we put into the trash. had no label on it
33:37 <rust_collector> gpu... so much nerd
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33:51 <%Ysjoelfir> yep
34:10 <Ampera> It's actually a kinda good time to be looking for a job in tech here
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34:28 <Ampera> a lot of companies are having a serious brain drain problem, and are having trouble finding people to hire
34:32 <%Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/jWVTG9.jpg seems like a good deal for free
35:00 <rust_collector> but will it go to radeon degrees?
35:54 <%Ysjoelfir> no, but it has a lot of geforce
36:26 <rust_collector> eeew!
37:14 <T3sl4> that's strange, i don't know of anyone having trouble hiring, who's also offering realistic payment
43:26 <Ampera> I think you just answered your own question.
43:50 <Ampera> however, that state of affairs means that more companies are going to be willing to barter on that front.
44:05 <Ampera> Employers are at the disadvantage right now, and that's the key thing.
56:07 <arch> i remember the year before last when i was looking for work. one guy offered me $12/hr. i was like...bruh, i will just go work at mcdonalds for the $20. smh, the audacity of employers
58:36 <Ampera> but think of how programming my grandma's knitting website will look on your resume!
59:04 <arch> lol
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01:56 <rust_collector> crochetking.com
02:09 <arch> crotchking.com
05:21 <jaymax> stitch-n-bitch
20:15 <DHess_US> Ok, this is the best explanation yet that I have seen for Russia invading Ukraine, https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE?t=753
20:15 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Why Russia is Invading Ukraine
37:58 <Ampera> Supposedly Russia is losing its grip on air supremacy, and is unable to keep it established
38:26 <Ampera> Considering most of the Ukranian air force is ancient MiG's and some other gear, that's pretty impressive
38:44 <Ampera> afaik ukraine also has some AA emplacements, which is probably part of the problem for Russia
39:25 <Ampera> supposedly a big part of why that convoy is stuck outside of kyiv is they blew up a bridge, and have done direct attacks to different parts of the convoy
13:40 <DHess_US> That's how you do it.
13:55 <DHess_US> Convoys are easier to attack before they deploy
17:26 <Ampera> honestly I think that convoy's fucked
18:11 <DHess_US> I doubt it. Not all of it will get through, but enough will.
18:32 <DHess_US> I assume they take expected losses into account, but even if they didn't, the next convoy will.
19:11 <Ampera> People keep saying that, and while Russia's still making progress, Ukraine's putting up more of a fight than anyone else expected.
23:49 <DHess_US> I don't think Ukraine is inflicting enough losses to stop the eventual success of the invasion. It is Russia's war to lose unless NATO intervenes which is not going to happen.
24:07 <T3sl4> i mean, you give them a fighting spirit, and cargo planes full of javelins and other munitions, and you're going to see a lot of enemy wrecks on the road
24:51 <T3sl4> for sure, russia has numbers, and if they can keep up the surge, they will eventually win on numbers as they always have
25:07 <rust_collector> I hope they deliver the weapons on llamas
25:13 <DHess_US> But eventually the coordination of Ukrainian forces will degrade to the point where they can no longer attack effectively no matter how well they are supplied.
25:17 <T3sl4> carrrl, that kills people
25:25 <T3sl4> the question is how many oligarchs will put their finances on hold to keep it going
25:32 <Ampera> The thing is that Russia only has its military to lose. Ukraine has literally everything to lose.
25:44 <DHess_US> I don't think they got enough of their finances. A lot is hidden.
25:48 <Ampera> It's the sort of situation to where so long as there is some organization, and some means to fight, there will be resistance.
26:10 <Ampera> but idk, I'm simply rooting for the underdog (and world peace) here.
27:50 <rust_collector> you want transnistria to win?
28:16 <T3sl4> cisnitstria ftw
28:52 <rust_collector> sorry, I am too old to understand that one
28:57 <Ampera> good
28:59 <Ampera> you don't want to
30:11 <rust_collector> ok
30:42 <DHess_US> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/low-on-gas-ukraine-invasion-chokes-supply-of-neon-needed-for-chipmaking/
30:43 <EEVBot> [Title] - Low on gas: Ukraine invasion chokes supply of neon needed for chipmaking | Ars Technica
35:33 <arch> this is why i'll never buy a car made after 2010, at the very latest
36:00 <arch> better to buy something from early 2000s, so long as the miles driven is reasonable
38:21 <arch> idk why cars even need so many semis these days. what's wrong with having a few 8bit microcontrollers doing the work. do we really need military AI grade computing power in our cars?
38:51 <rust_collector> I do not mind winding up my window either
39:08 <arch> exactly. nor do we need fking 20 cameras in the back and front
39:28 <arch> well, maybe women drivers might
39:36 <arch> or asian drivers
39:39 <arch> or asian women drivers
39:42 <rust_collector> well, those cameras do not work here, for 4 months each year
40:38 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/XmLSvBh.gif
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04:05 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNBM4z6WYAcaRUp?format=jpg&name=large
04:36 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNBNBjMWYAkgZm3?format=jpg&name=900x900
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26:32 <Nothing\> it sounds like Putin's gonna be the first non-african to face the international criminal court in the hague
26:57 <Nothing\> apparently he just bombed a kindergarten that kids and teachers were taking shelter in
27:05 <Nothing\> and not just bombed, he fucking clusterbombed it
27:09 <rust_collector> sure
27:11 <Nothing\> which clusterbombing itself is illegal
27:32 <Nothing\> rust_collector, well you can't deny the videos of cruise missiles hitting residential buildings
27:54 <rust_collector> I dunno? I have not seen any videos about it, really
27:54 <Nothing\> the 2 missiles that hit freedom square in kharkiv and killed several dozen
28:26 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i never did really either until recently. I'll be honest i wasn't really looking for it. I'm still not.
28:30 <coppice> Nothing\: DIdn't people from Yugoslavia end up in the Hague?
28:33 <Nothing\> But every so often i come across stuff about that
28:52 <Nothing\> coppice, there was a genocide yes i recall that... oh man that's a good question
28:57 <rust_collector> coppice at least one did, I think a few
29:00 <Nothing\> you would think they did
29:08 <Nothing\> if they did they weren't convicted of anything
29:19 <Nothing\> the hague's record is 27 convictions, all african nations
29:40 <Nothing\> last i heard before the invasion, they were considering action on myanmar's military for the coup last year
30:14 <Nothing\> but yeah coppice i'll have to look that up. it was so long ago i can't even remember who was genociding who
30:28 <rust_collector> ok, so it was some other court: Ratko Mladić (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtko mlǎːdit͡ɕ]; born 12 March 1942) is a Bosnian Serb convicted war criminal and colonel-general who led the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) during the Yugoslav Wars.[1][2][3] In 2017, he was found guilty of committing war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yug
30:29 <rust_collector> avia (ICTY).
30:31 <Nothing\> and i was so young, i didn't understand a lot of it until well after it happened
30:39 <Nothing\> oh yeah that's right
30:47 <Nothing\> they faced trials in their own local courts
30:52 <rust_collector> oh, maybe it was that court, lol
30:56 <Nothing\> yeah
31:01 <Nothing\> that makes sense now
31:36 <Nothing\> but hell my memory feels like swiss cheese. Like is it me or do i seem to do this a lot? Where I can only remember spotty details at best about something I should really know more about, and have before.
32:14 <Nothing\> i even find myself struggling to remember basic things about circuit analysis and math. Makes me feel old.
32:33 <rust_collector> Milošević conducted his own defence in the five-year trial, which ended without a verdict when he died in his prison cell in The Hague on 11 March 2006.
32:39 <Nothing\> oh shit
32:41 <Nothing\> i remember him
32:49 <Nothing\> slobadan milosevic
32:54 <Nothing\> or slovadan?
32:57 <Nothing\> something like that
33:08 <rust_collector> slobodan
33:13 <Nothing\> thank you
33:22 <rust_collector> in english, anyway
33:23 <Nothing\> Bs and Vs sound almost identical to me for some reason
33:41 <Nothing\> actually it's interesting because the letter B is actually pronounced as a V in cyrillic
33:49 <Nothing\> where the letter V is pronounced as a U
33:55 <Nothing\> and i don't think there is a U
34:00 <Nothing\> wait there has to be
34:10 <Nothing\> i'm confusing myself again
34:22 <Nothing\> i should stop trying to talk about stuff before my coffee and when i still have sleep in my eyes
34:31 <Nothing\> oh hey rust_collector
34:53 <rust_collector> hey!
35:00 <Nothing\> bit of a tangent, but i was just curious if there are any interesting/funny norse sayings that are common, or maybe not so common that you've heard
35:16 <Nothing\> things like when my dad used to say "it's cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey"
35:33 <rust_collector> oh gawd... I will post that, if I can think of something
35:52 <Nothing\> yeah take your time. I know it's one of those things you won't be able to get a good one on the spot.
35:57 <Nothing\> you've gotta let it come to you
36:14 <rust_collector> If I know them, it is natural, and I do not think of it, I think
36:19 <Nothing\> or there's the famous "colder than a witch's teat" from The Simpsons
36:29 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah i can see that
36:53 <Nothing\> man i should study linguistics more. It's a really interesting topic but i don't pay it enough attention
37:12 <Nothing\> linguistics and etymology, which i guess is like the history of a word
37:23 <Nothing\> how it originated, what language it originally came from, etc
41:04 <rust_collector> that is a project that would take all weekend
41:11 <Nothing\> hehe
41:19 <Nothing\> speaking of projects, i was thinking i wanna take up making vinegar
42:45 <Nothing\> i found out it's really easy. You get this apple cider vinegar with this stuff in it called mother, or mother of vinegar. Which is just a bacteria that ferments alcohol into acetic acid. You throw some of that into some wine, wait a bit and it forms this jelly sheet over the wine and converts the alcohol into acetic acid
44:18 <Nothing\> it sounds interesting though because you can make/use all sorts of different wines to get all sorts of different vinegars, and it can take on different properties depending on how long you let it ferment and you can age it in barrels. It's actually a lot like wine making.
44:23 <Nothing\> actually it IS exactly like wine making
44:43 <Nothing\> except instead of turning juice into wine with fermentation you're turning wine into vinegar with fermentation
49:40 <rust_collector> will you invite people over for vinegar parties?
49:58 <Nothing\> lol one day hopefully
50:03 <jaymacks> Piss and vinegar
50:05 <Nothing\> i bet people do that in california
50:10 <jaymacks> Lemon Party
50:24 <Nothing\> oh yes i love me a good old fashioned lemon party
50:32 <jaymacks> California does lemon parties.
50:42 <Nothing\> lol you ever see that episode of the simpsons where they had mr burns talking about lemon parties?
50:46 <Nothing\> it was funny but weird
50:51 <Nothing\> zombie simpsons weird
51:10 <jaymacks> If you Google "lemon party", you'll find out how old-fashioned it is.
51:16 <Nothing\> like the real simpsons world shouldn't even have the internet
51:25 <Nothing\> nevermind shit like lemon party
52:06 <Nothing\> it's like that PSA cartoon special nancy reagan made in the 80's, cartoon allstars to the rescue
52:59 <Nothing\> i don't think it aired in canada, that i'm aware of. But it was apparently really hyped in the US because it was a special with all of the popular cartoon characters like garfield and alvin and the chipmunks, all of the saturday morning cartoon characters in one show. It was gonna be amazing.
53:11 <Nothing\> but it just wound up being a PSA about why drugs are bad
53:27 <Nothing\> and millions of children across the united states went to bed disappointed that night
53:41 <Nothing\> those children today are drug addicts
54:01 <Nothing\> driven to addiction in order to spite the cartoon that let them down so severely all those years ago
54:22 <Nothing\> trying desperately to cover a wound with gauze that's not quite big enough
54:27 <Nothing\> lol okay i'll stop
54:58 <Nothing\> jaymacks, do you ever buy 510 thread cartridges of cannabis extract? I think i've asked you before but i can't remember.
55:25 <jaymacks> Nope
56:06 <Nothing\> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2636/1928/products/00841432003012_00_compress_300100_b2f2ac5e-21c3-40df-bfae-f6d3be6f15ce_1024x1024.png?v=1632853906
56:09 <Nothing\> one of these guys
56:17 <Nothing\> ah, you're missing out
57:10 <Nothing\> i dunno how flower affects your lungs, but i was always hacking up black shit and needed to go on an inhaler (salbutamol) and got all sorts of problems from all the tar. So I switched to these guys and they're still comparable in price to flower, but way easier on the lungs.
57:40 <Nothing\> I wouldn't say it vapes the stuff since it's obviously putting out some smoke. But it's at least not AS hard on my lungs
58:15 <Nothing\> it just sucks cuz some of these companies seem to think terps are the bee's knee's but they cheap out on them so you get shit that's loaded with nothing but limonene and pinene it literally tastes like you're smoking pine-sol
58:23 <Nothing\> and they call it "forbidden fruit"
58:36 <Nothing\> it's forbidden cuz it tastes like fucking battery acid in your throat
58:51 <Nothing\> but if you get a good one, it can be so smooth you don't even know you're sucking anything in
59:33 <Nothing\> i just hate how the staff at the shop tried to discourage me from getting one without terps saying the terps add to the high. If fucking pinene gets you high, i'll drink my own piss.
59:53 <Nothing\> if pinene got you high, african kids wouldn't need jenkem. They'd all be huffing pinesol instead
00:32 <Nothing\> not to mention terps are the main ingredient in turpentine, so you hit them with that one and it shatters their whole hippy dippy attitude
01:20 <Nothing\> which isn't to say that makes it a bad thing because it's in turpentine. But they don't know that. They think "hey if it's a chemical that's used in something dangerous, it must be dangerous too"
01:27 <Nothing\> and CHEMICALS OOOOH SCARY
01:42 <Nothing\> ho yeah and it's natural too, so it can't be bad for you
01:54 <Nothing\> tell that to anyone who's ever worked in an asbestos mine
02:05 <Nothing\> or any mine really
04:35 <jaymacks> > ah, you're missing out
04:35 <jaymacks> I don't smoke or vape. Risk/reward isn't practical for something I don't care for at all.
05:52 <Nothing\> oh i thought you did
05:53 <Nothing\> my bad
06:06 <Nothing\> but good on you, the stuff's mindpoison
06:59 <Nothing\> and not even just figuratively, there's increasing evidence that it's linked to physiological changes in the brain "similar to what's seen in schizophrenia" I'd have to look up the study to see exactly what they meant it's been years since that was published
07:06 <Nothing\> but i'm sure other such studies have come out
08:39 <Nothing\> oh man
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09:37 <Nothing\> i just found my watch history on youtube. Never been cleared once since i got my account. Hell i didn't even think to look at it until just now. Not that I care, what the hell am i gonna watch on YouTube that I don't want people to know about? A Judy Garland song?
10:21 <rust_collector> sort by oldest first, and get started
11:22 <Nothing\> oooh good idea
11:33 <Nothing\> lol yeah i hate it when they don't load the whole list of things like that
11:37 <rust_collector> autoplay, lol
11:51 <Nothing\> it looks some of it, then you scroll down to the bottom and it loads some more
12:12 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i bet there's a ton of science stuff i could stand to give a second/third/fourth watch, depending
12:25 <rust_collector> probably
13:11 <Nothing\> that's one thing i've found, you can't just watch an educational video and learn everything in it. And even then, it seems like 90% of what you did retain is gone within a week. So it seems the best way to retain something long term is to re-learn it after that week by giving the video another watch
13:17 <Nothing\> and then repeating as necessary
14:02 <rust_collector> ok, I am a bit sick. I think I will go to bed. good night
14:16 <%Ysjoelfir> Have a good night, rust_collector
14:29 <rust_collector> eeh, yeah, thanks
14:38 <Nothing\> rust_collector, aw i hope you feel better, man.
14:46 <Nothing\> Have a good night, and a good sleep.
14:51 <Nothing\> and good health, or i'll kick your ass.
15:25 <rust_collector> ok, that should be fun
15:35 <Nothing\> indeed :D
24:00 <rust_collector> ok, if you want to learn something you should already know, try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OSZ5lgPBM
24:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Understanding Wood Grain | Paul Sellers
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30:53 <Nothing\> ooh that is actually interesting
31:11 <Nothing\> it's funny actually i was JUST staring at the wood grain on a table 2 days ago wondering about it
32:05 <Nothing\> about its formation, or what part of the tree it was from, if there were any branches coming off, or any signs of changes between rings in the grain
33:03 <Nothing\> damn cat
33:28 <Nothing\> i set i glass of milk on the table and turn my back for 2 seconds and there she is drinking out of the cup like she owns it
33:45 <Nothing\> left a buncha black crud in it so i just poured a bit in a saucer and had to dump the rest :/
34:19 <Nothing\> and of course now that it's in a saucer on the floor where they're supposed to be eating/drinking, she has no interest in it lol
34:38 <rust_collector> are you sure that was the drinking end of the cat? and why do you give cats malk?
34:44 <rust_collector> re-good night
50:26 <Nothing\> rust_collector, sleep not working out for you?
50:35 <Nothing\> haha rust_collector
50:42 <Nothing\> wouldn't be the first time i made that mistake :o
51:00 <Nothing\> the same face i made at the time ^
51:37 <Nothing\> aeosuntehoisaoedisaoeituhaoseidaoseinoaidn
52:04 <Nothing\> i bought the most recent remake of final fantasy 1 the other day and ever since playing it i've had the music from the shops stuck in my head
52:28 <Nothing\> it always reminded me of an italian song for some reason. It sounds like it belongs in a Mario game.
53:05 <Nothing\> which reminds me, i should get some more MIDIs of songs from that game to play on my keyboard
02:31 <Nothing\> huh
02:50 <Nothing\> i just found out you can insert bold, underline and italic fonts into youtube comments the same way as irc
03:08 <Nothing\> at least with bold anyways, a simple ctrl+b just the same
03:20 <Nothing\> i didn't even know you could change the font in youtube comments.
03:34 <Nothing\> oh wtf
03:54 <Nothing\> when i posted it, everything that was bolded disappeared lol
03:58 <Nothing\> wtf is the point of that?
05:08 <Nothing\> seems like they just copy and pasted some generic commenting script and forgot to remove that part of it despite their systems seemingly not supporting special characters
05:22 <Nothing\> or whatever you call ones that change the font like ctrl+B
11:53 <Nothing\> lol photoshop much?
11:56 <Nothing\> https://lp-cms-production.imgix.net/2020-12/shutterstock_737478940.jpg?auto=compress&fit=crop&fm=auto&sharp=10&vib=20&w=1200&h=800
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12:05 <Nothing\> https://www.bleepstatic.com/content/hl-images/2022/01/16/ukraine-flag-storm-clouds.jpg
12:14 <Nothing\> hey arch
12:20 <Nothing\> how ya doing?
12:25 <Nothing\> oh, i think that's an autojoin
38:08 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Woah, Warnie died at only 52. RIP https://t.co/kHB3DvsM7U
58:41 <jaymacks> Why does the flag look like a thin sheet of PVC?
59:19 <DHess_US> Looks to me like fine woven nylon or polyester.
11:23 <jaymacks> Way too shiny for polyester. Might be nylon, but I'm not used to seeing nylon flags so opaque.
15:39 <Nothing\> i was just thinking, i bet i could make some sort of wire conduit detector using a darlington pair with a wire or coil for the antenna
16:09 <Nothing\> maybe a coil and you run it along your wall and if it couples with any connections in the wall an LED lights up
16:32 <Nothing\> but running i mean like, sliding it around. Not running as in running a cable.
16:47 <Nothing\> i'm gonna try that
17:19 <Nothing\> except i remember floating DPs seem to just turn on when you look at them funny. So I dunno how I'd make it less sensitive. Less gain?
23:27 <Nothing\> ooh this'll be a nice excuse to use my ULN2003s
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27:03 <Nothing\> wow this is just creepy
27:05 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-u8EoWcI
27:05 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: 'Speak directly!': Putin has tense exchange with his chief spy
27:21 <Nothing\> it's like watching an exchange between an abusive husband and his wife
27:31 <Nothing\> actually, that's pretty much what it amounts to.
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