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00:04 <Ampera> this doesn't sound like a problem, Ysjoelfir
00:14 <Ampera> you should be complaining about the inverse
00:27 <Ampera> why isn't there /more/ beer in your non-existing lunchbox
13:26 <Ysjoelfir> Let me rephrase that
13:30 <Ysjoelfir> Why no beer!?
13:50 <Ampera> better question
15:34 <Ampera> because beer is dis adj/hyp opp/adj
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36:15 <DHess_US> https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/t3xcgt/a_russian_tie_fighter_was_shot_down_outside_kyiv/
39:41 <Ampera> "this community is quarantined"
39:48 <Ampera> now COVID restrictions really have gone too far
41:26 <DHess_US> Maybe that is Russia's true purpose in Ukraine, to enforce mask mandates and vaccinations.
41:36 <Ampera> hahahaha
43:48 <K> r/russia is special
47:02 <Ysjoelfir> is it?
47:11 <Ysjoelfir> I rarely read reddit, so....
52:50 <K> eh, do not start with r/russia then
17:15 * T3sl4 solanaceaizes K
17:30 <K> u wot
17:37 <T3sl4> (potato family)
17:41 <K> oh.
17:56 <K> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae
18:02 <K> wait, you callin me a flower?
18:18 <T3sl4> you never seen a potato flowering?
19:24 <K> i seen it enought
19:54 <K> also seen enough of fucking beetles/leaf-eaters
20:03 <T3sl4> the bastards
20:11 <K> "colorado beetles", they are called here
20:19 <K> thanks america :|
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26:12 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/5iADLRY.gif
27:07 <electrohead> o/
27:15 * T3sl4 waves at electrohead
27:30 <electrohead> the one NIC in my pfsense box got acting wonky
27:32 <electrohead> good times
27:43 <electrohead> parts are on the way, plus a new modem
27:55 <electrohead> the modem itself is wonky as well with the MAC address table, and the DHCP leases
27:56 <electrohead> fucking thing
29:11 <Ampera> at least it's DOCSIS, and you can by modems off the shelf
29:13 <Ampera> *buy
29:20 <Ampera> I wonder, do they have PCIe DOCSIS modems?
29:45 <Ampera> nope
29:49 <T3sl4> DICSUS
30:19 <electrohead> it would be awesome to have a PCIe modem solution
30:29 <Ampera> not really
30:32 <Ampera> DOCSIS is meme tier
30:40 <Ampera> genuinely impressive and amazing what they can do with it
30:44 <Ampera> but still meme tier
30:54 <Ampera> fiber optic supremacy \o/
31:02 <Ampera> we call ourselves glassholes
31:38 <electrohead> lol
32:02 <Ampera> I actually just had some NICs come in yesterday
32:14 <Ampera> probably gonna do some server maintenance later today
32:25 <Ampera> and probably some cleanup, because the dust situation in that basement is hilariously bad
33:48 <electrohead> I just bought the HP T620 Plus yesterday, to replace my thin T620
34:08 <electrohead> now I can add an actual gigabit NIC to this, without the hackery I did in the past with the thin model
34:35 <Ampera> I'm gonna give up on a dedicated router box and run a router in some jails on my compute server
34:53 <Ampera> bright side is I literally have more PCIe than I know what to do with, so I could add like a dozen NICs if I needed to
35:24 <T3sl4> ho ho ho we'll call you saint NIC
36:10 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/server/20210425_110127.jpg
37:02 <T3sl4> :)
37:24 <Ampera> my really nice solarflare NICs need to go, sadly
37:49 <Ampera> FreeBSD's basically dropped support for them (the driver is still in the distro, but it's broken with no maintainers), so I'm replacing them with qlogic ones
38:00 <T3sl4> poo
38:05 <Ampera> even the linux support is meh
38:12 <Ampera> it works, so long as you don't bring one of the interfaces down
38:14 <Ampera> that causes a kernel panic
38:47 <T3sl4> just gdb lul
57:45 <electrohead> lol
57:58 <electrohead> Ampera: nice box
58:00 <electrohead> :p
58:08 <Ampera> it needs more cards
58:11 <Ampera> but it's alright I guess
58:59 <K> needs more cat
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40:35 <T3sl4> gotcha fam https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/t46v0d/hairless_cats_love_fur_at_least_the_helmet_stops/
16:27 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/8jrwI8e.png
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59:11 <Ysjoelfir> hsn!
13:58 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://www.reddit.com/r/forbiddensnacks/comments/t470b3/forbidden_oreos/
21:09 <coppice> T3sl4: those cookies have bad optics
21:43 <T3sl4> i don't know what you mean, they're perfectly glazed
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37:38 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
41:24 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: and a barium titanate to you too
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27:40 <Nothing\> ah where would i be without vgmusic.com
27:57 <rust_collector> you would still be at home
28:00 <Nothing\> afaik the biggest online library of retro game midis
28:07 <Nothing\> rust_collector, probably, yeah lol
28:31 <Nothing\> rust_collector, that's funny actually i was thinking the other day about my unrelenting desire to constantly learn anything and everything i can
29:24 <Nothing\> and i realized i have no end game or goal to it. I just do it because i enjoy it. I'm not working towards a degree or studying to prepare for college or a career or anything. Which, I guess I've always known. But I never really thought how unusual it is for somebody to take up learning in such a way.
29:57 <Nothing\> you just don't see many people who learn for fun. I guess because they associate learning with school and school is usually not fun because it's taught and run by people who don't give a shit about education or kids for the matter, at least in the west.
30:03 <Nothing\> I hope norse schools are better.
30:35 <jaymax> Do norse schools have norseshoes?
30:41 <Nothing\> hell i realized in our schools, they never taught us about mortgages, never taught us about loans or managing money, didn't even teach us what the word usury meant. Most adults have no clue what the word means. Nevermind how to spot it.
30:53 <rust_collector> eh, I don't know. I think they are sort of ok-ish, in general. not great, but ok
31:01 <Nothing\> lol jaymax it took a second for me to get it
31:10 <Nothing\> rust_collector, did they at least teach you about world history?
31:14 <Nothing\> or norse politics/law?
31:26 <Nothing\> cuz our schools didn't teach us about any of that re: canada
31:36 <rust_collector> i dunno? I was not interested, and did not go there very often
31:52 <Nothing\> the most we learned was about how canada became a confederation in 1885, basically the roots of us becoming an "independent" country
32:20 <Nothing\> even though we're still literally ruled by england, Trudeau isn't the top of the political hierarchy in Canada, he's only #3
32:21 <jaymax> 1885?
32:30 <Nothing\> jaymax, yeah wasn't that when confederation was?
32:32 <jaymax> 1867 perhaps?
32:34 <Nothing\> oh
32:36 <Nothing\> haha
32:39 <Nothing\> wtf was 1885L
32:40 <Nothing\> ?
32:47 <rust_collector> insert random number
32:56 <Nothing\> jaymax, shows how well they taught me, huh?
33:02 <Nothing\> i never cared about canadian history anyways
33:29 <Nothing\> it's sad, i know way more about american history, politics and law just from being so close to the border and growing up watching mostly american tv as a result
33:46 <Nothing\> i'm sure you got the same stuff in NB, all the american stations like NBC, ABC, Fox, etc
34:11 <Nothing\> er wait you didn't grow up in NB did you?
34:22 <jaymax> There's *so* much that formal schools could have just glossed over and leave "click-bait" talking points for students to check out the rest.
34:24 <Nothing\> er
34:25 <Nothing\> NS
34:26 <Nothing\> dur
34:27 <jaymax> Yes
34:29 <Nothing\> there i go again
34:53 <Nothing\> though in fairness, i'm constantly confusing NB and NS as it is. I'm not even sure i could point either of them out on a map
35:10 <Nothing\> the general area, sure. And i might be able to spot halifax with its harbor. But that's it.
35:26 <Nothing\> oh man jaymax so get this
35:40 <Nothing\> i told you what happened to my old phone, right?
35:47 <Nothing\> years and years ago when the police seized it
36:03 <jaymax> NS could just get swept out to sea. Cannot say the saqme for NB. That's the geographical difference.
36:15 <jaymax> Probably not
36:26 <Nothing\> ah well long story short, when they finally gave it back to me, this is what i got
36:28 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/K9S6RQc/broken-phone.jpg
36:58 <jaymax> Tiktok spyware?
37:09 <Nothing\> lol this was before tiktok was even a thing
37:22 <Nothing\> i have no idea wtf they were doing or how they expected to get any information off of my phone doing that
37:25 <jaymax> Still Wah-whey
37:26 <Nothing\> but they're idiots
37:45 <Nothing\> they actually seized an HDD that i took the case off of and was using as a centerpiece
37:56 <Nothing\> where the platters were so scratched up by the r/w head
38:24 <Nothing\> and this was having a forensics expert on site to determine what was and wasn't worth taking because my hobbyist electronics confused the poor popo
38:25 <jaymax> There solder work done on the JTAG pads?
39:05 <Nothing\> not that i could tell
39:16 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/RC6db5F
39:26 <Nothing\> mmm
39:30 <jaymax> Thet took the work to get under the can
39:44 <Nothing\> heh
39:56 <Nothing\> you know that can openers were invented something like 20 or 50 years after canned food
40:03 <Nothing\> i forget the exact figure but it was several decades
40:26 <jaymax> Yes. I watched the same video. :%^)
40:29 <Nothing\> before that, you usually used a hammer and chisel. Which can you imagine how many scraped up knuckles that woulda led to.
40:33 <Nothing\> video?
40:41 <Nothing\> i learned this before youtube even existed lol
40:43 <jaymax> Technology Connections
40:47 <Nothing\> oh huh
40:54 <jaymax> Ah. But it was pen knife
40:55 <Nothing\> yeah i musta seen that then cuz i know i've seen all of his
40:59 <Nothing\> but i learned this when i was a kid
41:16 <Nothing\> anyways apparently another way they would open canned food is with a gun lol
41:23 <rust_collector> when cans were tin, I guess it was not a huge deal?
41:31 <jaymax> Bcos lead is no problem at all. hah
41:32 <Nothing\> which just reminds me of The Simpsons where homer buys a gun and uses it to open his beer
41:55 <jaymax> Led slug that is.
41:56 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yah i guess you could just literaly cut it open with a bowie knife lol
42:08 <Nothing\> although i'll be honest, i've opened canned food with nothing but a butter knife before
42:18 <Nothing\> i cut up my hands something fierce, but i got it open
42:45 <Nothing\> jaymax, oh yeah going back to my phone story though. I forgot to finish lol
43:17 <Nothing\> so anyways, there were a few games on there by the same company that i absolutely loved. Pretty small devs, indie type games. And I could picture in my head exactly how they looked but I couldn't remember the name for the life of me. After so many years i just resigned myself to the fact that I'd never play them again.
43:51 <Nothing\> then the other day i was going through a bunch of old SD cards i stashed after my arrest since i wasn't legally allowed to possess them. And I happened to find the card out of my phone somehow
44:02 <Nothing\> i dunno how they didn't seize that but somehow i still have it.
44:15 <Nothing\> i mean you'd think if they seized my phone, they'd seize the SD card that's in it too
44:25 <Nothing\> or maybe it came in the bag of junk they gave me back who knows
44:47 <Nothing\> either way, while i was going through it, i happened completely by chance upon this one single picture buried deep in a hidden folder
44:55 <Nothing\> it was a screengrab from one of the games
45:10 <Nothing\> and it just so happened to have the name of the game in the picture
45:12 <Nothing\> :D
45:43 <Nothing\> so I immediately looked it up, DLed it, along with every other English game the company mady (moititi fyi) and have been going nuts ever since
46:13 <Nothing\> except having played these. I've suddenly remembered yet another game which i have the same problem with. I can only remember vaguely what it looked like and that's it.
46:36 <Nothing\> and this time i'm certain there won't be no mystery flash drive that's gonna pull my buns out of this fire
47:29 <rust_collector> draw a picture, of how it vaguely looks, and ask people?
47:36 <Nothing\> actually when the cops executed the search warrant and raided my apartment, even though their primary objective was to seize as many data storage and telecoms devices as possible, they still missed a lot of flash drives. lol
48:00 <Nothing\> and not even drives that were hidden anywhere. I mean drives that were just sitting in plain view in a drawer. Not even buried, just on top of everything.
48:31 <Nothing\> There was one that was even in a transparent drawer right at the front so you only had to look at the front to see there's a flash drive in it
49:06 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i'd like to. Or maybe make an image in GIMP but I suck at drawing and have 0 experience making pictures outside of MSPaint
49:07 <Nothing\> lol
49:31 <Nothing\> i wanted to make pixel art in GIMP once and couldn't even figurethat out
49:42 <Nothing\> and i've literally NEVER used photoshop EVER
50:13 <Nothing\> i don't even know what the interface looks like but i imagine it's a lot like GIMP with a windows theme as opposed to a TCL theme or whatever you call it
50:23 <Nothing\> not TCL, TCL/TK
50:38 <jaymax> GTK
50:43 <Nothing\> that's it, thank you.
50:54 <Nothing\> getting my letter words mixed up
50:58 <Nothing\> fuck my brain is mush today
51:02 <Nothing\> acronyms
51:13 <Ampera> GTK always uses GTK themes
51:15 <jaymax> GTK was one known as the GIMP ToolKit
51:19 <Nothing\> it's worrying how often this is happening lately. I hope it's just stress
51:23 * Nothing\ power hugs Ampera <3
51:30 <Ampera> a GTK program written for Windows will use the exact same theme as one written for Linux, and the themes are interchangeable
51:32 <Nothing\> HAI FRAND!!!
51:39 * Ampera kisses Nothing\ 
51:41 <Nothing\> AMPERA FRIEND ME GOOD
51:51 * Nothing\ sticks a finger in Ampera's pooper
51:54 <Nothing\> lol jk
51:56 <Ampera> oh come on
51:59 <Nothing\> (or am i?)
51:59 <Ampera> you can go deeper than that
52:02 <Nothing\> haha
52:05 <Ampera> get your entire hand in there, pussy
52:10 <Nothing\> i was thinking "only to the first knuckle"
52:13 <Ampera> keep going until you feel one of my kidneys
52:19 <jaymax> Nothing\ that's a weird way to take the temperature of a conversation
52:59 <Nothing\> lolthat reminds me of the scene in borat where he realizes that the men he met at the gay pride parade that he spent the night with in a hotel, took a shower with and let them put a rubber fist in his ass were gay.
53:31 <Nothing\> jaymax, hahaha
53:32 <jaymax> My a-noose is broken
53:42 <Nothing\> jaymax, lol
53:50 <Nothing\> actually i just realized an inconsistency, very naughty
54:27 <Nothing\> in the beginning when azamat's preparing him for his interview and blowdrying his junk and stuff. Borat asks Azamat "how is my back pussy" in "kazakh"
54:38 <Nothing\> but from then on he refers to it as his ay-noose
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54:55 <Nothing\> which i don't really care, both are funny
55:05 <electrohead> for some reason, the bot didn't detect the ping and bla bla, and never came back
55:10 * electrohead kicks it
55:13 <Nothing\> i still haven't seen the sequel. Or at least more than the first few minutes
55:15 <electrohead> also, heeeyyyyyyyyy
55:19 <Nothing\> hey electrohead <3
55:23 * electrohead rubs on jaymax, and makes Nothing\ film
55:25 <electrohead> hey dude :P
55:30 <Nothing\> how you doing other than your difficulties
55:44 <Nothing\> electrohead, i've always been saying i need to make more content specifically for youtube
56:11 <Nothing\> where most of my uploads lately are just random stuff i didn't intend for youtube but thought would look cool or that i wanted to just share with friends. Like my egg video
56:13 <electrohead> my difficulties?
56:28 <Nothing\> electrohead, bot not detecting the ping etc
56:30 * electrohead shoves them over to Nothing\ to deal with
56:33 <electrohead> lol :P
56:35 <Nothing\> lol
56:43 <electrohead> dude I'm great :D
56:43 <Nothing\> electrohead, only rich people can do that
56:53 <Nothing\> they're called subcontractors
56:56 <electrohead> s/rich/powerful
57:02 <Nothing\> wait, are those the guys who hire them
57:09 <electrohead> yeah
57:11 <Nothing\> shit who are the guys who hire contractors
57:17 <Nothing\> or the ones who work for contractors
57:20 <electrohead> the people I used to work under, lol
57:21 <Nothing\> you know what i mean
57:27 <Nothing\> there ya go! lol
57:39 <electrohead> I'll be looking for a job within a month or two
57:40 <Nothing\> and you probably made them about 2500% more money than they ever paid you
57:48 <electrohead> for now, still setting up the house, getting everything good to go, etc
57:53 <electrohead> eh
57:56 <electrohead> lmao
58:01 <Nothing\> though contracting makes good money as it is
58:01 * jaymax comes in dry rub form
58:07 <Nothing\> manual labour in general does
58:14 * electrohead sprinkles himself onto jaymax
58:22 <Nothing\> not that i've ever been into manual labour myself
58:34 <electrohead> I have KMFDM cranked up and drinking some beer, someone come join me damn it
58:41 <electrohead> also repairing a PSU for my 16 port switch
58:53 <coppice> what about automatic labour?
59:20 * electrohead sacrifices coppice
59:52 <Nothing\> i came close though, my one gf as a teenager. Her dad was almost gonna give me a job at his roofing company when I was 16. But we broke up before that could happen. Man I loved her family so much though, more than her I think cuz they were like the family I never had. Especially her dad, the guy treated me like his own son. We'd sit out front whether she was there or not and just shoot the shit through the warm summer
59:53 <Nothing\> father i always needed.
00:24 <Nothing\> they were jehova's witnesses, so i think that's why they were so strongly family oriented. But it was such a nice change from the usual affair we're used to.
00:40 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4XT256HnXE
00:41 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: KMFDM- Tohuvabohu
00:44 <coppice> If you get in trouble as a roofer you just have to hope they'll let you wipe the slate clean
01:20 <Nothing\> hell the one time my parents went on vacation and left me on my own for the week (with provisions of course) her dad even offered to let me spend the weekend there. Though I declined because that just felt a bit too weird for what i'm used to.
01:28 <Nothing\> coppice, lol
02:01 <Nothing\> that's the thing though, roofing is some of the hardest manual labour out there next to agriculture. And I was/am not in good shape in the least bit. Nor am/was I a good or hard worker.
02:14 <Nothing\> I know I would have worked for a day or two, realized how hard it was and quit.
02:34 <rust_collector> after 2-3 weeks, you would be getting used to it
02:37 <Nothing\> i did the same thing with my exwife's dad but he was a douche i didn't respect and had no interest in helping.
02:39 <coppice> do roofers really work hard, or do they keep sloping off?
03:16 <rust_collector> when I did, we had a grill up there on the roof, and spent all day eating burgers
03:16 <Nothing\> but i helped him with some work on a dairy farm once and it was the same deal. It was disgusting, dirty working and I'm a city boy so I quit after my 2nd shift
03:32 <Nothing\> coppice, lol i love puns like that
03:51 <DHess_US> roofing is one of the most dangerous jobs also
03:53 <jaymax> I dunno. Do munipical laborers really work hard, or do they keep jacking off?
03:58 <Nothing\> coppice, there was a guy in the old irc server/channel i went to who would always say puns like that. It's nice to have someone else who does that in here :D
04:13 <Nothing\> coppice, hey man, what did the urologist tell his patient?
04:19 <Nothing\> urine trouble!
04:36 <rust_collector> hmm?
04:43 <Nothing\> easily my favourite punny punchline because it applies to so many situations
04:49 <Nothing\> rust_collector, as in you're in trouble
04:56 <rust_collector> what?
05:00 <Nothing\> but urine trouble. Because a urology is a doctor for you peepee.
05:13 <rust_collector> are you sure?
05:16 <Nothing\> lol i can't tell if you're being facetious. I don't believe for a second your english is THAT bad.
05:30 <coppice> "You pissed him off. Urine trouble now"
05:36 <Nothing\> tbh i wouldn't have even taken you for a non-native speaker if you hadn't mentioned being from Norway.
05:47 <Nothing\> coppice, oooh that's a good one. I'm totally stealing that.
06:03 <jaymacks> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/249fe061-e48c-44e0-a667-e8a859dd5137/jpeg_1622467700000.jpg
06:06 <coppice> I'm not from Norway
06:06 <Nothing\> man my head feels so weird
06:16 <Nothing\> coppice, not you lol, rusty
06:58 <Nothing\> but the other day i went from not shaving for 2 months and not having a hair cut since the fall to shaving everything. Clean shaven face and hair shaved down to like 1/4cm
07:03 <coppice> scaniwegians mostly speak first class English. Even not very well educated one
07:16 <Nothing\> feels weird but soooo nice. And it only takes like 2 minutes to wash and dry my hair
07:20 <electrohead> rust_collector: good song!
07:30 <rust_collector> it is
07:43 <Nothing\> taking head-showers is so much shorter between the 1 minute it takes to wash my hair, and having no beard to wash anymore.
07:49 <electrohead> my favorite songs by them are that one, wwiii, paradise, and kunst
08:08 <Nothing\> plus i hated the feeling of my beard. It kept getting in my mouth. I dunno how people deal with that.
08:24 <rust_collector> I do have a thing for the looking for strange one.
08:33 <electrohead> jaymacks: rofl.
08:37 <Nothing\> I had to keep my mustache trimmed constantly so it wasn't always in my mouth. But then it looked weird having a 1/2cm long mustache with almost 3in long beard hair
08:42 <jaymax> Finally!
09:00 <rust_collector> oh, and.. uhm, let me look up which one I am thinking of
09:09 <Nothing\> oh yeah
09:20 <Nothing\> i forgot i bought the pixel remakes of final fantasy 1 and 6
09:47 <Nothing\> lol i got so sidetracked rediscovering those old games on my phone, i forgot about the "real" (non-indie) games that i actually spent money on
10:29 <Nothing\> actually jaymax i bet somebody on reddit... on some sub... could probably help me find that other game if i drew a detailed enough picture and gave an articulate enough description
10:44 <Nothing\> i bet there's even a sub specifically for finding old games like that
11:35 <Nothing\> heh there was one for the NES I remembered from my childhood that i couldn't find for almost 25 years. Then my brother randomly got it in a lot of games hebought off of ebay when he was living with me. Wound up being Wizards and Warriors 2.
11:41 <jaymax> Mystic Towers?
11:51 <Nothing\> Which isn't the greatest game tbh, hard as hell. But still fun and nostalgic.
12:03 <Nothing\> wasn't mystic towers that one avgn did a video on
12:17 <Nothing\> a top-down adventure/rpg type
12:17 * jaymax shrugs
12:32 <Nothing\> i just remember some game like that with the name tower in it
12:36 <jaymax> Mystic Towers is tilted to appear 3D
12:47 <jaymax> https://www.dosgames.com/game/mystic-towers/
12:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
12:51 <Nothing\> oh, that's called an isometric perspective
13:03 * jaymax forbids EEVeBot
13:05 <Nothing\> oh cool
13:11 <Nothing\> that looks like it woulda been fun back in the day
13:21 <Nothing\> i wish i knew more about computer before i was 20
13:58 <Nothing\> actually i didn't know much of anything before i was 20 compared to what i've learned since
14:14 <Nothing\> i didn't even know what a function was
15:12 <Nothing\> now i'm literally discovering what a derivative is on my own. I like to set myself little math puzzles to figure things out on my on as if I were discovering it. So, no documentation or tutorials or videos or any outside help. Just my wits.
15:30 <Nothing\> like one such task was to figure out how to find the square root of any number by hand
16:01 <Nothing\> which i did figure out through some tedious algorithm i came up with. Which I'd like to incorporate into a program but oh well
16:51 <Nothing\> it's basically a big thing of trial and error, "does this number match these conditions when these operations are applied? no? try another number. Yes? Write the number down and move on to the next.
17:50 <Nothing\> and of course i'd make myself do it all by hand too, no calculators. Which gave me huge respect for the oldskool mathematicians like Gauss or Fourier who had to do countless thousands of tediuous operations by hand
18:04 <Nothing\> and that's weird, my one fluorescent light bulb just blinked for a moment
19:57 <rust_collector> have fun. and good night
22:01 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFVPnGEb8o
22:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Building an ULTRA-BRIGHT water-cooled TV...
30:45 <Nothing\> ugh wtf
31:09 <Nothing\> these people at this industrial supply company are making it really difficult for me to give them my money
32:02 <Nothing\> i can't get any prices without an account, and this is for simple PPE type stuff, a box of earplugs, some vinyl gloves, etc. It's not like I'm looking at a $35,000 plasma cutter
32:39 <Nothing\> so i tried to get an account, and this guy emails giving me some 20 questions routine which were all questions they should have or probably did ask when i set up the account in the first place
33:16 <Nothing\> but either way i bit my tongue and sent him a reply with the answers. And then the reply he sends me is on the 26th saying he'll be in corporate meetings from the 24th to the 25th and nothing else.
33:24 <Nothing\> clearly automated. But not helpful at all.
33:38 <Nothing\> and since it's been over a week. I think it's safe to say he's read my email by now.
34:01 <Nothing\> I think it's because I said I was a hobbyist rather than a business so instantly my priority rating went down to 0.
35:10 <rust_collector> yep
35:35 <Nothing\> oh, there's a message from another guy from the same company. But gmail just tells you the person's name, not their email on the main screen. So as far as I was concerned it was just spam. Because I don't use this email to talk to real people usually.
36:14 <Nothing\> i should set up like... i dunno, what's a good email client these days? I remember Thunderbird was good... or was the Eudora.
36:25 <Nothing\> Or having office, I probably have Outlook on here, but eww.
36:33 <Nothing\> I see outlook as the email equivalent of IE.
37:44 <rust_collector> as you are a windows guy, you should probably just use powerpoint
46:53 <Nothing\> wow i just watched a speech by zelensky where the translator broke down and started crying
47:40 <Nothing\> talking about how 2 cruise missiles hit Freedom Square in... I forget the city's name but it's home to 20 universities and the most universities in any ukrainian city
47:55 <Nothing\> meanwhile Putin said straight up he's not targeting civilians
49:09 <Nothing\> well he has a funny way of showing it by killing dozens of people in the freedom square attack, 16 children were killed in a missile attack yesterday. There are constant missile attacks in residential centers. It doesn't take much searching to find pictures of bombed out apartment complexes.
49:47 <Nothing\> cuz i'm sure those kids were some of the best trained tank drivers in the Ukrainian military
50:08 <Nothing\> maybe in Taliban Afghanistan...
50:17 <Nothing\> Talibany?
50:30 <Nothing\> what on earth is the denonym for taliban?
50:44 <Nothing\> talibanese?
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00:05 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - The Slow Mo Guys got some spectacular footage of caps blowing up! And they only played with the tiny ones! https://t.co/qHuXMnzPzW
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57:23 <Nothing\> slow day, huh
57:41 <Nothing\> i just got my muriatic acid :D
58:16 <Nothing\> except the only vinyl gloves they had were these sketchy looking "one size fits all" things. Which if the gloves don't say "medium" I'm going to assume it's not going to fit
58:49 <Nothing\> if one size fits all, they wouldn't have to make small, medium and large gloves. And they're the same material. So it's not like there's anything special about it to make it more stretch lol
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27:12 <Nothing\> lol my brother's such a shitbird
28:42 <Nothing\> he set my netflix account to only let me watch kid's shows and deleted my lists. Not that I ever watched anything on Netflix. But considering the fact that I pay 50% of the bill and my Mum pays the other 50%, he's lost his mooching privileges so the main account password's changed, his account's gone and he's gonna have to pay the $25 a month if he wants to keep watching
29:29 <Nothing\> plus he thinks i'm still on probation so when he gets the text msg from me saying as much he's probably gonna try to call the cops on me for breaching my order lol. But we'll see about that when the time comes.
30:17 <electrohead> T3sl4: you around?
31:10 <Nothing\> fuck though as much as i like to pretend i'm having fun, this shit's stressful.
31:16 <Nothing\> especially with my own fucking brother
31:27 <Nothing\> but my brother died 30 years ago as far as i'm concerned
31:46 <Nothing\> sorry, i just need to vent and have nowhere else sadly.
49:00 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I almost don't believe this audience retention figure for my repair video. For those who don't know, 73% after 24mi… https://t.co/LKRjZwKDlR
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59:07 <DHess_US> Well, there's your problem, https://i.ibb.co/hsMvFBs/IMG-0550.jpg
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02:40 <DHess_US> So where do you find wire suitable for a stove or oven?
02:56 <DHess_US> I'm going to have to rewire this bad boy.
06:21 <coppice> you can't beat good old asbestos
06:35 <Ampera> asbestos is the bestos
07:12 <DHess_US> These were rubber under some kind of paper?
07:29 <DHess_US> Looks like I want high temperature appliance wire, but I need a third color.
07:38 <coppice> rubber is good in the short term, but degrades
09:46 <DHess_US> This stove has to be at least 40 years old.
11:25 <coppice> then any rubber wiring has definitely seen better days. 40 years ago rubber had been removed from most high temp wiring, except flexy stuff, like clothes iron leads
15:01 <DHess_US> At least 40 years old.
15:24 <electrohead> how would I properly test this, to make sure it works correctly? https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/uc3843b.pdf
15:46 <coppice> I don't know what they use now. silicone is great for fairly hot situations, but it had its limits
16:18 <DHess_US> Yea, silicon is one option, but it doesn't seem to be what they commonly use.
17:04 <DHess_US> electrohead, use it in a simplified working circuit for a functional test.
17:15 <DHess_US> Just drive an RC load to get an output.
17:28 <Ampera> I've never seen silicon insulation used before.
17:40 <Ampera> seems like it'd be a bit sharp and brittle
17:51 <DHess_US> Huh?
17:58 <DHess_US> Never seen silicon rubber test leads?
18:09 <Ampera> I've seen silicon rubber, but never plain silicon
18:13 <DHess_US> Something else they sometimes use is Teflon, but it is pretty stiff.
18:18 <coppice> Ampera: he means silicone
18:32 <electrohead> well it's already a part of a PSU for a managed switch, that I have. I replaced the caps, and no output voltage whatsoever
18:32 <Ampera> I know, I'm doing a joke thing here because I am a filthy pedant and also smell bad
19:18 <DHess_US> electrohead, oh, check the startup circuit, and then check the vref
20:03 <electrohead> I'm going to ask a question .. um, is it smart to hook up an oscilloscope between the output and ground pins, to see what's going on?
20:32 <electrohead> (I've never troubleshot a current mode PWM controller before)
24:08 <electrohead> this PSU has never worked, and well - a trace disintegrated on me, not much long ago
24:30 <electrohead> I was shooting voltage all over the PSU, the whole output side had nothing
24:52 <MrMobodies> Hello
25:01 <electrohead> figured I would just dive into trying to see the output on my scope, and the second I applied power .. well, *zap*
25:12 <Ampera> Every decision is smart, the only difference is if you're smart before or after you've made the decision
25:49 <electrohead> it smells like fuck in here, now.
25:52 <electrohead> hey MrMobodies
26:51 <Ampera> did you actually blow your scope?
27:19 <electrohead> "a trace disintegrated on me, not much long ago"
27:43 <electrohead> and I should have said, *poof*
28:00 <Ampera> silly me, asking a simple question and expecting a simple answer
28:03 <Ampera> I have no idea what you're talking about
28:24 <electrohead> the scope didn't blow at all, the scope is perfectly fine
29:00 <electrohead> I applied power to the PSU, with the probe hooked up between the output and ground pins, expecting to see, well - something, on my scope screen
29:09 <electrohead> just wanted to verify if it was even switching
29:20 <DHess_US> <electrohead> I'm going to ask a question .. um, is it smart to hook up an oscilloscope between the output and ground pins, to see what's going on?
29:24 <DHess_US> only if they have a shared ground
30:13 <electrohead> as in, the scope and the PSU are grounded together? or, talking about the PCB itself?
30:35 <electrohead> probably worded that wrong; what exactly are you saying, rather?
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38:56 <electrohead> scope and PSU were grounded through the same power strip
39:12 <electrohead> I'm just trying to figure out why the hell this trace just went *poof*
39:17 * jaymax strips for power
39:18 <electrohead> I've been awake for a while, now
39:27 * electrohead films
39:35 * jaymax does a dance
39:35 <electrohead> I'll look at this more tomorrow
39:48 * electrohead poofs all over jaymax
40:16 <jaymax> old caps again?!?
40:22 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Ah, I thought so, super glue. https://t.co/AO1vyJGHZr https://t.co/F0aO4ZkOSn
43:09 <DHess_US> But ground, really common, for the power supply chip may have nothing to do with the ground the scope is connected to.
43:37 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaELqAo4kkQ
43:38 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: EEVblog #279 - How NOT To Blow Up Your Oscilloscope!
44:10 * jaymax puts away the rubber hose; walks away in shame
48:33 <Nothing\> hey, what do you guys think of the idea of when you're soldering something, placing it on a hotplate to heat the part up, or at least help heat it up?
49:02 <Nothing\> it seems like a good idea at first, but then you realize you're gonna get shit heat transfer unless whatever you're soldering is placed flat against the hot plate
49:23 <electrohead> for large ground planes and such, yeah I utilize pre-heating
49:31 <Nothing\> yeah that i could see
49:50 <Nothing\> especially with the large thermal mass, too
50:01 <Nothing\> i can see a hot plate helping a lot with that
51:08 <Nothing\> speaking of hot things, the coil on my ecig went off after less than 2 weeks. Started tasting burnt.
51:22 <electrohead> that's what she said
51:25 * electrohead runs
51:30 <Nothing\> lol
52:13 <Nothing\> ugh why am i tired
52:49 <Nothing\> it's like no matter how hard i try, my body defaults to a bi-phasic sleep pattern. Which try getting anything done when you can only stay awake for 6-8 hours at a time lol
53:54 <Nothing\> and sure i'm awake for like 14-16 hours a day but half of that time is in the middle of the night so what am I gonna do? sit in the bathroom for some reason and read on the phone?
55:15 <electrohead> so I was definitely overthinking myself; I even made sure I hooked up to the proper ground point, yet shit still went *poof*
55:25 <electrohead> I suspect something else was shorted on that PCB
55:25 <Nothing\> i always wondered how well it works out when people try poly-phasic sleep. Where they sleep like 90 minutes at a time 4 times a day or something like that so they claim you can function on less sleep. But to me that just sounds like the literal makings of an "enhanced" interrogation technique
55:27 <electrohead> hrmm
55:37 <Nothing\> oh my
55:47 <Nothing\> hope you didn't lose too much magic smoke
55:59 <electrohead> oh there was enough of it, lol
56:05 <Nothing\> haha
56:06 <electrohead> the sparks were nice to see
56:12 <electrohead> scared the shit out of me, at first
56:17 <Nothing\> they always do
56:18 <electrohead> unplugged that fucker in record time!
59:59 <DHess_US> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yUiicqtq/IMG_5655.JPG
01:03 <electrohead> hahahaha
04:40 <Nothing\> aww kitty's washing the other kitty
04:58 <Nothing\> lol now they're swatting at eachother
05:09 <Nothing\> just like real siblings
05:46 <Nothing\> DHess_US, lol i guess they don't want a lawsuit on their hands
05:58 <Nothing\> McDonald's shoulda thought of that
06:14 <Nothing\> ah hahaha
06:20 <Nothing\> i just saw the other languages
06:25 <Nothing\> that took a second
06:59 <Nothing\> shows how much attention i pay to captions
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49:12 <Nothing\> well that sucks
50:03 <Nothing\> i bought a second cabinet of little drawers for my parts. Same make and almost model, just a different shape. But it's completely made of plastic. Where my original one I only bought 3 years ago was metal.
50:11 <Nothing\> Mastercraft, of course.
50:57 <Nothing\> although the drawers feel like they're a lot more secure in it. Which is nice.
51:12 <Nothing\> and the dividers actually work
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10:53 <Nothing\> can't sleep
10:56 <Nothing\> clown'll eat me
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41:59 <MrMobodies> Hello
42:00 <EEVBot> Hello, MrMobodies!
42:43 <MrMobodies> Have I got anything worry about with a service that runs VOIP/SIP through Amazon cloud/webhosting?
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02:45 <Halcyon_> Afternoon all
02:48 <Halcyon_> Fucking NBN
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15:12 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/JK9JwH0.jpeg
15:46 <Halcyon> Soooo finders keepers?
15:54 <T3sl4> i mean, it's abandoned property
16:01 <Halcyon> Or even "trash"
16:25 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/t2w2gc/ukrainian_tractor_taking_a_russian_mtlb/ yup, completely abandoned and forgotten
16:26 <EEVBot> [Title] - Reddit - Dive into anything
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16:50 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
16:53 <Halcyon> "Yoink"
17:05 <Halcyon> I wonder if that's the one that ran out of fuel
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04:10 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/2Lld2V1
04:11 <EEVBot> [Title] - BiRB! - Album on Imgur
18:33 <Halcyon> T3sl4, pretty birb
19:02 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwHElRBVme0
19:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Trying to Relax Outside But The Birds Keep Stealing Food! Magpie, Kookabura and a Chookie!
19:17 <T3sl4> i had a walk yesterday morning and thought of you when i walked under a tree with a, whatever it was, tiny bird chirping away
19:28 <T3sl4> but i don't usually walk with a videocamera so eh
27:32 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Hmm, 1hr20min of parametric searching waffle. If I can get this edit under 45min I'll be surprised. https://t.co/mN6D9yOGjk
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51:15 <steve30> hi
05:31 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
17:25 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
17:32 <Halcyon> Morning Ysjoelfir
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52:51 <Halcyon> T3sl4, what's doing?
53:06 <T3sl4> buh
53:26 <Halcyon> Up for a chat (the Discords) or are you busy?
53:42 <T3sl4> uh sure i guess
53:48 <Halcyon> Me is bored :P
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47:30 <Ysjoelfir> me was also bored
49:46 <k> hello bananas
49:59 <k> oy, y me small
50:08 Nick: k is now known as K
01:41 <steve30> i've put a steak and kidney pie on
04:04 <K> on what
04:21 <steve30> on a tray in the oven
04:30 <K> i see.
04:44 <K> well, i don't see the tray, but you see what i mean.
04:47 <K> si?
15:55 <Ysjoelfir> XD
16:22 * Ysjoelfir coates K in batter, fries him and adds some honey
16:38 <K> how about some dill?
16:47 <K> that would work
16:50 <Ysjoelfir> dill to fried banana? no.
17:08 <K> potato-banana
21:35 <Ysjoelfir> Banato? Potana?
33:59 <K> Pobato!
54:23 <T3sl4> mmm, poblano
07:30 <T3sl4> but yes, dill is quite fine with fried plantain
08:02 * Ysjoelfir fries T3sl4's plantains
10:46 * T3sl4 plans Ysjoelfir's frytains
10:52 <T3sl4> frightens?
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11:51 <doggyrat> hello
12:12 * T3sl4 gives doggyrat Ysjoelfir's fried plantains
13:26 <doggyrat> hello T3sl4
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48:29 <doggyrat> Question: i am looking for a prism cube ration 5:5 size about 20-25 mm to split a video image , it should be cheap not more than max US$ 20
27:35 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - It's averaged down. https://t.co/EqpMSkK1Sp
55:05 <rust_collector> that is not a question
56:53 <Ampera> hello rust_collector
56:53 <EEVBot> Hello, Ampera!
56:56 <Ampera> fuck you
57:04 <Ampera> (the bot, not you rusty)
57:06 <rust_collector> hello Ampera
57:16 <rust_collector> aww, not even that
57:19 <Ampera> how are you doing this dusty morning
57:44 <rust_collector> I am at work, and I had so much time, that I went hom for a bit
58:05 <Ampera> I am at work, and have a whole seven hours until I am not at work
58:12 <Ampera> at least I have all the strong tea I can drink here
58:46 <rust_collector> I just have 3 hours to go, but I also just have 40 minutes of work to do
59:26 <Ampera> then the obvious solution is to wait until 30 minutes before you leave to realize that it's actually 90 minutes of work to do
01:20 <rust_collector> dont make me math
01:41 * Ampera makes rust_collector meth instead
01:50 <rust_collector> eh, ok
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58:27 * T3sl4 dusts Ampera's wets
58:40 * Ampera kisses T3sl4 
58:49 <T3sl4> you dare wet my drys?
58:54 * T3sl4 kisses Ampera back
59:02 <Ampera> <3
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