// #politicaldebate — 2016-11-21
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00:06:35 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qer6Nhhl_Go Tigger_
00:06:39 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Brian's Failed Fare Pickup (Sep 2, 2012) Length: 0:20 - Category: Comedy - 21,923 views views - 217 likes (98.6%), 3 dislikes (1.4%)
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00:08:06 <Tigger_> well Brian was right, Cleveland turned out to be violent
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00:11:28 <President_Trump> lol goof elizabeth warren having a meltdown about jess sessions kkk
00:11:32 <President_Trump> jeff
00:11:42 <President_Trump> goofy
00:12:44 <Tigger_> video?
00:13:10 <Tigger_> she'll have her best I DEMAND TO SEE THE MANAGER face on
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00:14:53 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWVZgVur46o
00:14:58 <BlackDevil> Youtube: WATCH: Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Jeff Sessions, Trump's AG Pick (Nov 18, 2016) Length: 1:50 - Category: News & Politics - 385 views views - 1 likes (33.3%), 2 dislikes (66.7%)
00:16:34 <Tigger_> she's making a good case for him
00:18:21 <Oriole> how would Warren go clearing the debt and defeating ISIS/
00:21:22 <Tigger_> perhaps deep down she knows how well she'd go, which is why she never ran in spite of a fair number of people urging her to
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00:22:43 <Oriole> wouldn't want the scrutiny about her phony heritage either
00:23:08 <Tigger_> it'd become the running joke of her campaign
00:23:27 <Tigger_> as many people believe she's an indian as people who believe Hillary is innocent
00:23:42 <President_Trump> there is a story obama begged her to run
00:23:49 <President_Trump> and said he would get behind her
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00:27:02 <Tigger_> I wonder why he liked her
00:27:32 <Oriole> they have something in common, a made up family history
00:29:14 <Tigger_> they both deny their white ancestry, admittedly a much bigger job for Warren
00:29:45 <President_Trump> he liked her coz he hates crooked hillary
00:29:51 <President_Trump> bill too
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01:50:51 <Tim-Sim> almost finished updating my resume, can't be bothered...
01:52:15 <Doodle> do it
01:52:17 <Doodle> finish it
01:52:28 <Doodle> i did that the other week lol
01:52:39 <Doodle> took me 2 days just to fix up my studies
01:52:42 <Doodle> don tbe lazy Tim-Sim
01:52:45 <Doodle> do it for jen
01:53:08 <Tim-Sim> I have left half my studies out
01:53:14 <Doodle> why?
01:53:37 <Tim-Sim> some of them weren't completed so it looks lazy
01:53:54 <Doodle> well lol
01:53:58 <Doodle> good point
01:54:07 <Doodle> but just lie
01:54:10 <Doodle> they never know
01:54:25 <Doodle> u should put down you worked for Austnet
01:54:33 <Doodle> as an Austnet IRC Administrator
01:54:41 <President_Trump> mention your nazi balance collection Tim-Sim in your resume
02:00:29 <Tim-Sim> I need to write a cover letter
02:00:43 <Tim-Sim> I have to hand it in tomorrow
02:01:06 <Doodle> fuck a cover letter
02:01:10 <Doodle> ive never written one in my life
02:01:19 <Doodle> u dont need one
02:01:22 <Doodle> make ur resume that good
02:01:25 <Doodle> they wont even bother
02:01:37 <President_Trump> put a picture of angela merkel in a hijab as the cover letter
02:01:44 <Doodle> yes
02:01:45 <Doodle> or jen
02:01:54 <Doodle> jen with photoshopped hijab
02:02:57 <Tim-Sim> I have usually just sent in an e-mail and that served as a cover letter and attached the resume to the email
02:03:52 Nick: Doodle is now known as RealityBytez
02:04:17 <RealityBytez> yep
02:04:19 <RealityBytez> thats alll i do
02:04:23 <RealityBytez> sometimes i dont even bother
02:04:26 <RealityBytez> i just send the resume
02:04:34 <RealityBytez> as i said if ur that good they will get u in
02:04:47 <RealityBytez> never work for a place u have to try hard
02:04:51 <RealityBytez> should be easy as
02:04:56 <RealityBytez> otherwise they dont deserve u
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02:05:43 <Tim-Sim> I have already said that I would send them a cover letter
02:05:56 <Tim-Sim> I guess I lied... mwah ha hahah aha
02:06:31 <Tim-Sim> I don't even know why I have to send them a resume, I have been working at the company for 5 years
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05:55:09 <square> work bai
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06:49:12 <Rant> hi
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09:46:22 <Rant> Things About Australia You Need To Know Before Visiting
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13:02:22 <Tim-Sim> I just wrote a cover letter for the job application. After writing it, I realised I am the best person for the job!
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17:09:36 Topic Is: Bernie believes in white power: https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/798192678785716224 SJWs go nuclear at him
17:09:36 Set By: (apogamic) on: Mon Nov 21 14:11:24 2016
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17:52:03 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I have to go to QLD court
17:52:09 <Warren1984> summons to court
17:52:20 <Warren1984> for showing you a picture of fudge
17:52:41 <Tigger_> because you tempted me to commit a rabbit crime
17:52:58 <Tigger_> Exhibit A: Fudge Packer
17:53:18 <Warren1984> Pauline Handson likes Rabbits
17:53:26 <Warren1984> Hanson
17:53:49 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you should make your own political party
17:53:53 <Warren1984> called rabbits
17:54:05 <Warren1984> for the state government of QLD
17:54:24 <Warren1984> you could protest wearing rabbit suites
17:54:31 <Warren1984> costumes
17:54:33 <Tigger_> she doesn't like rabbits because they're illegal immigrants
17:54:42 <Warren1984> from Europe?
17:56:30 <Warren1984> Tigger_ remember this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=govStN7X6PI
17:56:35 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Russian TOS-1A Multiple Rocket Launcher - Буратино ТОС-1А Солнцепёк (Aug 13, 2016) Length: 3:11 - Category: Science & Technology - 75,992 views views - likes (96.2%), 23 dislikes (3.8%)
17:56:51 <Tigger_> she says the white rabbits can stay, the rest have to go back
17:57:26 <Tigger_> yes, they use a crane to load the missiles
17:58:43 <Tigger_> it'd be good if they fired all 24 rockets at once
18:00:03 <Warren1984> yeah
18:00:23 <Warren1984> the only problem with that type of tank is it takes too long to load
18:01:06 <Warren1984> and has no air defense
18:01:16 <Warren1984> although an S400 could help with that
18:04:46 <Tigger_> Russia could invade China
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18:35:48 <Oriole> hey
18:42:08 <Tigger_> hi Oriole
18:46:08 <Oriole> see Dutton's comments about Lebanese immigration?
18:47:38 <Tigger_> no?
18:47:41 <Tigger_> what did he say?
18:48:06 <Tigger_> ah, just looking now
18:48:07 <Tigger_> yes it was
18:48:17 <Oriole> said Fraser made a mistake in not vetting 1970's immigrants properly
18:48:30 <Oriole> Shorten had a fair crack about it today in QT
18:48:41 <Tigger_> they were originally supposed to be mostly Christian, but ended up getting heaps of muslims instead
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18:49:57 <Tigger_> there is a good article on Quadrant by a NSW policeman who had to deal with lebanese criminals
18:50:45 <Oriole> I would say Dutton, in his own mind, made a mistake in saying it, even if he does believe it. He is gaffe prone. However most people in the electorate would probably agree with him, so it won't be that damaging. But I wasn't impressed with how he handled it. He went on the counteroffensive and didn't really explain his comments.
18:51:59 <Oriole> Funniest moment is when Bandt asked a question about, wait for it, climate change, to which Hunt went full ad hominem, talking about Bandt's choice of cafe beverages.
18:52:01 <Tigger_> you never apologise, you never back down, you hit even harder
18:52:23 <Oriole> Trump?
18:52:31 <Tigger_> in all dealings with the left
18:53:31 <Oriole> Hunt also cited Keating's statement from June at a Labor function for Albanese, where he said the Greens are 'old trots hiding behind gun trees'
18:53:32 <Tigger_> when you apologise, you concede that their accusations against you were justified, so what should be seen as a witch hunt, is instead seen as speaking truth to power and such
18:54:21 <Oriole> QT is essentially a dog and pony show
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18:56:28 <Oriole> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_door
18:56:41 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II0sNqxHCyo
18:56:45 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Illuminati Ritual at Vatican today will SHOCK you! (R$E) (Nov 20, 2016) Length: 9:06 - Category: Education - 16,332 views views - 750 likes (94.2%), 46 dislikes (5.8%)
18:59:25 <Tigger_> it's a lot of silly ritual, but the Illuminati doesn't exist
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19:06:30 <Oriole> the same guy who made that vid reckons Trump and Hillary are working together and for the Jesuits. I don't buy that. As Pilger said, Trump said he is antiestablishment, but in reality he is just of another establishment. That is why I don't buy into there being one big secret society, but many. And just as the common man engages in conflict with another common man; so one establishment fights with another establishment. This is the
19:06:30 <Oriole> nature of anthropology, of the human condition, viz. sin. So this idea in this guys videos of the 'hegelian dialectic' between Trump and Hillary, whilst a laugh and certainly valid in other areas of life, is probably a myth. I look forward to seeing the proof of this over the next 4-8 years, indeed if Trump is a success and is given the chance to succede.
19:08:35 <Ethanol> John Pilger?
19:08:43 <Tigger_> I haven't paid much attention to Pilger in a long time, but my guess is that he is resentful towards Trump for appropriating some of his anti-establishment doctrine and making it his own, rather than celebrating that he's won on at least one or two fronts
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19:09:15 <Tigger_> "Oh no, those awful Republicans are now into the same bands I listen to!"
19:09:22 <Oriole> yes Ethanol, check out his latest interview after the Trump victory
19:09:32 <Got> here to do stalking Tigger_
19:09:42 <Got> can u explain
19:09:47 <Got> how to stalk
19:09:52 <Got> when u sit home
19:10:09 <President_Trump> wasnt trump meant to tank the election so his good friend hillary could win?
19:10:17 <Ethanol> I feel the same way about Michael Moore. In "Roger and Me", Moore was pro-working class and disdainful of the unproductive latte sippers of San Francisco.
19:10:23 <Got> would it involve Feds moving in
19:10:32 <Oriole> Tigger_, check out his latest interview. his main thing is criticising the MM coverage of the Trump campaign, and how they were blindsided and had no idea what to say when he won, cos they had no idea what his polices are
19:10:37 <Got> to my building
19:10:52 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ho8OrBzig
19:10:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: John Pilger: ‘The truth is… there was no one to vote for’ (Going Underground US election special) (Nov 9, 2016) Length: 28:13 - Category: News & Politics - 583,644 views views - 8,684 likes (94.7%), 483 dislikes (5.3%)
19:11:02 <Got> Fucken dipshits
19:11:11 <Oriole> worth watching for his commentary on the media
19:11:18 <Tigger_> nobody even knows what Hillary's policies are, except that she really wants to be president
19:11:50 <Got> I got no smokes
19:11:51 <Ethanol> so Pilger didn't even support Jill Stein?
19:11:56 <Got> but I got wed
19:12:06 <Got> so double whammy
19:12:21 <Got> can chop weed with out smokes
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19:12:33 <Got> nah u cant
19:12:41 <Ethanol> The only thing socialists hate more than capitalist republicans, are other socialists
19:13:43 <Tigger_> "But how is bringing industry and jobs back from China going to make trannies feel accepted in society?"
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19:15:32 <Oriole> you don't have to like everything about Pilger, or indeed anything, to get something out of that analysis and critque of the media
19:15:41 <Tigger_> actually I remember my first introduction to John Pilger, when he made a documentary for the ABC absolutely furious that the blacks didn't punish the whites hard enough in post-apartheid South Africa
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19:20:24 <lolli1> 👌︎
19:22:30 <Tigger_> actually one leftist I had a bit of respect for was Ralph Nader, but he's doing the usual "Republicans are listening to my bands" routine too: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nader-trump-unstable-monster-1.3859125
19:24:08 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grZsUI5l6w
19:24:12 <BlackDevil> Youtube: WESTWORLD FANS "Reason To Watch CNN Everyday" By SNL (Nov 21, 2016) Length: 3:16 - Category: News & Politics - 4 views views - 0 likes (0%), 0 dislikes (0%)
19:24:28 <Tigger_> and on the other side Ron Paul refused to endorse Trump, calling him a nazi
19:34:31 <kuniva> my penis smells
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20:28:24 <Oriole> what's going on
20:31:14 <Tigger_> well right now I'm going to put my Nazi Balance shoes on and go to the shops, going to buy a bunch of lemons
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20:31:50 <Oriole> ice cubes?
20:32:38 <Tigger_> no ice cubes, that's what I'd do if I had a lemon tree
20:32:48 <Tigger_> so I'll just squeeze them fresh as I need them
20:34:06 <Oriole> how have those shoes broken in?
20:35:06 <Tigger_> good, they didn't actually need much breaking in, they fit like second nature now
20:35:24 <Tigger_> seems size 13 is perfect for me
20:36:01 <Tigger_> anyway, I'm off
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20:51:29 <lolli1> Illuminati - Lwaxana, Chanop, Blackdevil, Grem, Exo 👌︎
20:52:25 <lolli1> there is one missing but I cant figure out who is it
20:53:44 <President_Trump> bonny
20:53:59 <lolli1> hmm
20:54:08 <President_Trump> go into asd and check
20:54:13 <President_Trump> 👌︎
20:58:03 <lolli1> ok we are going to have to make some adjustments to the script
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21:12:52 <Ethanol> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-21/sistergirls-and-brotherboys-unite-to-strengthen-spirits/8040928
21:13:18 <Ethanol> The ABC should produce more stories like this
21:13:51 <Ethanol> For too long has the white man oppressed transgendered abos!
21:15:03 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why did Vanessa cut her hair
21:16:17 <Warren1984> what does she have in her mouth?
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21:19:10 <lolli1> I think the elite felt theatened when I went to their channel
21:19:23 <lolli1> they told me to gtf out
21:19:26 <circle> morning lads
21:19:36 <lolli1> more or less
21:20:35 <President_Trump> speaking of abc wonder what they will spew up on q and a tonight
21:20:40 <President_Trump> THE FIRE RISES
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21:25:01 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o IvanTheBastard
21:25:09 <lolli1> the terrible
21:25:12 <lolli1> :)
21:25:20 * IvanTheBastard salutes
21:25:24 <IvanTheBastard> Hello Friends
21:25:51 <amelia> helena
21:26:03 <lolli1> you live in cambodia ivan?
21:26:19 <IvanTheBastard> Yes, who told you that
21:26:30 <lolli1> just a lucky guess
21:27:03 <lolli1> little kids work for food
21:27:17 <amelia> but your sister remains in Perth
21:27:43 <IvanTheBastard> they do, lots of ppl come here to help kids in orphanages. its wierd
21:27:46 <IvanTheBastard> like a white person thing
21:28:03 <IvanTheBastard> amelia we covered this, i dont have any sisters
21:28:09 <IvanTheBastard> im not sure who you have me mixed up with man
21:28:17 <amelia> except one called Helena
21:28:45 <lolli1> my sister lives in perth and she secks
21:28:54 <amelia> you didn't know a Luxford and a Dougie and? I forget the rest
21:30:09 <IvanTheBastard> isnt Dougie from the pizza hut ads
21:30:31 <lolli1> that was 20 years ago
21:30:42 <amelia> im onto you
21:38:53 <lolli1> I suddenly feel like pizza
21:39:12 <Tigger_> $10 for 8 lemons, highway robbery
21:39:41 <IvanTheBastard> hah, when i go for jogs i always scope out the surrounding blocks to see who has lemon trees i can loot
21:39:56 <IvanTheBastard> i think limes are $35 a kilo atm or something crazy
21:41:41 <Tigger_> do you find any?
21:42:10 <Tigger_> yes, limes are far too expensive, I've always been curious what a lime based hommus would taste like, but the price puts me off
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21:46:27 <IvanTheBastard> Tigger_ i always find them, often i just knock on the dudes door and ask to loot em, they usually say yes
21:46:53 <Tigger_> do you offer them any money?
21:47:35 <IvanTheBastard> nah never, just butter them up about how nice their lemons look and ask to grab some off the floor if there are any and they will usually tell you to grab whatever you want from the tree instead
21:48:11 <Tigger_> I'm going to keep an eye out for lemon trees, but I'll offer them some money, so they'll be ok with me coming back for more
21:48:52 <Tigger_> that is mighty forward of you though
21:49:30 <IvanTheBastard> what do you have to lose
21:49:34 <IvanTheBastard> the worst they will do is say no
21:49:40 <IvanTheBastard> or i just reach over the fence and grab some if i can
21:49:49 <IvanTheBastard> they are almost always boundary fruit
21:52:29 <Oriole> Ross Cameron's finest work https://youtu.be/kzHtsL6GzJo
21:52:32 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Donald Trump Defended by Ross Cameron in Australia (Oct 13, 2016) Length: 1:46 - Category: News & Politics - 1,312 views views - 28 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
21:55:28 <Oriole> once a backyard lemon tree is established, most owners have far too many to deal with
21:56:32 <Tigger_> http://twsp.us/sites/default/files/Ron-Paul-speaking-at-Georgetown-Jesuit-University.jpg
21:56:56 <Tigger_> I'd love to have too many lemons
21:58:02 <Oriole> not creepy at all
21:58:10 <Tigger_> Trump's courage inspires courage in others
21:58:58 <IvanTheBastard> i loathe the day i knock on the door and a milf answers and i ask to grab her lemons...
21:59:08 <IvanTheBastard> ...or really look forward to it
21:59:15 <IvanTheBastard> >:]
22:02:13 <Tigger_> the problem with lemon trees is that it takes 10 years or so before they start really producing much
22:02:55 <Oriole> politco still not calling Michigan http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
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22:04:44 <Tigger_> must be a few cemeteries they haven't visited yet
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22:18:06 <Oriole> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/andrew-bolt/andrew-bolt-donald-trumps-idiocy-is-not-the-question/news-story/4862a17a08710f9cc719a8260cfa6da6
22:18:19 <Oriole> THE question now isn’t whether Donald Trump is just a moron or an outright menace who could blow up the world. It’s why a braggart, buffoon, liar, narcissist and sexist with almost no political principles came so close to becoming president of the world’s greatest power.
22:18:31 <Oriole> Bolt has since changed his tune
22:19:21 <screws> hello
22:19:44 <Oriole> yo
22:20:28 <screws> yodel
22:21:17 <IvanTheBastard> Bolt is OK but he can be a hack at times
22:21:52 <IvanTheBastard> he got done over by 18c though, what he said wasnt even that controversial. that was a complete sham
22:21:54 <Oriole> he's always made it up on the run
22:22:41 <Tigger_> what date was that article?
22:23:13 <Oriole> mid Oct
22:23:50 <Tigger_> these old conservatives tend to say things like "Trump is addressing all the problems I want to see dealt with, but I'd rather wait for another 10 or 20 or 30 years for someone with better manners to do it."
22:24:01 <screws> anotherirc3r wasnt online?
22:25:45 <Oriole> much of the Murdoch press changed their tune late in the game. prob because one of Trump's major policies was to prevent the merger of AT&T with Time Warner - Murdoch would have liked that. Plus there is probably a lot of money to be made by talking up Trump, now that they realise people love him. This is true of the NY Post too. A few months back they had naked pics of Melania on the cover. Towards the end of the campaign they were
22:25:45 <Oriole> talking Trump up.
22:28:32 <Tigger_> good point
22:29:18 <President_Trump> bolt would be a never trumper if he was in the states
22:29:24 <President_Trump> then hold his nose and vote for him
22:29:28 <President_Trump> he doesnt like him much
22:29:29 <Tigger_> Trump should legislate a new media tax
22:29:46 <Tigger_> rather, an old media tax
22:30:16 <Oriole> vintage Latham https://youtu.be/hQxC7iCP6Ac
22:30:20 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Mark Latham attacks Andrew O'Keefe and Van Badham (Apr 30, 2016) Length: 4:22 - Category: News & Politics - 57,536 views views - 396 likes (97.3%), 11 dislikes (2.7%)
22:30:55 <screws> i dont get when mark latham became such a nutcase
22:31:07 <screws> he makes President_Trump look completely sane
22:31:38 <Tigger_> Van has her I demand to see the manager face on
22:31:43 <President_Trump> latham has become good over the last couple of years
22:31:47 <Tigger_> though I've never seen her without it
22:32:04 <Tigger_> Latham is ready to be PM now
22:32:42 <President_Trump> u can tell what a cuck okeefe is by the way he has his legs crossed
22:32:47 <Tigger_> heh
22:32:54 <IvanTheBastard> Latham is based as fuck
22:33:07 <Tigger_> he's an Irish Catholic, comes from a line of lefty finger waggers
22:33:09 <screws> lathan was labor wasnt he? hes got some crazy conservative views for a left winger
22:33:16 <IvanTheBastard> i think after he got knifed he did a 360 and became right wing
22:33:22 <Tigger_> he saw the light
22:33:24 <President_Trump> 'mark ive known u for 20 years' 'no you havent'
22:33:53 <Oriole> when you can't smack O'Keefe in the mouth cos you're on live tv, you gotta take him down otherwise. washed up gameshow host
22:34:26 <Tigger_> what university for women has mainly achieved: saddled a female with tens of thousands of debt that she brings to the marriage
22:34:29 <Oriole> Latham is old Labor. not much room left in the party for people like him
22:34:35 <IvanTheBastard> o'keefe is a dick, he's a washed up hack. abit like waleed, sputs populist leftwing garbage that producers make them say after sucking dick backstage
22:34:51 <President_Trump> LOL okeefe near the end 'GOOD ON YA MATE'
22:34:53 <Oriole> and Latham was always mad
22:34:56 <President_Trump> *TRIGGERED*
22:35:06 <Oriole> that's what took him to the top and it is also what ended him
22:35:12 <Oriole> he has one speed, full throttle
22:35:14 <Tigger_> Latham isn't a socialist though, the old Labor types went to their grave thinking there was going to be a workers revolution
22:35:17 <President_Trump> screws latham was great in that interview
22:35:54 <screws> i loled when he said "get out of your limo" i was waiting for andrew to say i catch the bus
22:36:13 <Tigger_> Latham should start scoffing down hot chips, while he tells Van Badham she needs to lose weight
22:36:14 <Oriole> how gay did O'keefe look when he lost it. Has no idea how to debate or defend himself
22:36:22 <President_Trump> screws what did u think when crooked hillary said she would let a woman have an abortion the day before birth?
22:36:34 <screws> not sure, i never heard it
22:36:43 <screws> tbh im not in tune with it all anymore
22:36:45 <President_Trump> it was during the debate
22:37:10 <screws> ppl are misquoted a lot nowadays, can you show me the clip
22:37:12 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruM0fQTmcyk
22:37:16 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Domestic violence: Steve Price tells Van Badham she's being hysterical (Jul 11, 2016) Length: 4:10 - Category: News & Politics - 22,593 views views - 80 likes (93%), 6 dislikes (7%)
22:37:28 <Oriole> lulz at the prick who asks the question
22:37:34 <Tigger_> I was quite surprised that she brought it up, usually they brush the worst aspects under the carpet, and beat around the bush with terms like "reproductive rights"
22:37:49 <President_Trump> just google it
22:38:03 <screws> i think theres bigger issues our society is facing atm than abortion
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22:38:11 <screws> how about homelessness for a start
22:38:26 <Tigger_> "Is a man going to speak over me about me?"
22:38:36 <President_Trump> later term abortion is murder
22:38:42 <Oriole> yeah homelessness is def a bigger issue than the mass murder of the innocent
22:38:45 <President_Trump> *late
22:39:00 <Tigger_> is the baby of a feminist innocent though?
22:39:08 <screws> i think theres a difference between aborting a pregnancy and someone shooting someone in the face
22:39:31 <Oriole> what about shooting a woman in the womb/
22:39:50 <screws> i dont understand why you ppl want so many unwanted babies. is there some sort of economic rationale for this i havent heard yet
22:39:51 <President_Trump> screws u were outraged when he said women should be punished
22:39:57 <President_Trump> i thought this was an isssue close to your heart
22:40:04 <President_Trump> when trump said
22:40:10 <screws> i dont recall being outraged about anything tbh
22:40:29 <President_Trump> u were very upset
22:40:36 <screws> so lets just start punishing ppl for no reason and bring us all back to the stone age
22:40:45 <Tigger_> one reason why the left have to import masses of third worlders is that they themselves have few children, in part due to abortion
22:41:05 <screws> lets just bring back the spanish inquisition again
22:41:13 <Oriole> how about contraception? how about not sleeping around? how about human life being priceless?
22:41:21 <President_Trump> lol watching q and a, all of them still crying over trump
22:41:37 <screws> contraception doesnt always work as desired
22:41:49 <Tigger_> the Spanish Inquisition was too inefficient, everyone accused got an individual trial, I'd rather dispense with such formalities
22:41:50 <screws> its not a perfect thing by its nature
22:42:08 <screws> human beings will have sex i mean you cant just expect ppl to stop boning
22:42:18 <screws> ive heard of women with 'the rod implant' getting preg
22:42:24 <screws> its extremely rare but apparently it can happen
22:42:47 <Tigger_> full hysterectomies is the only way to make sure
22:42:55 <Oriole> screws, the 1.2 million babies killed in the womb, every year in the US cry out from the grave for God's wrath
22:43:08 <screws> why does it always come back to this one utterly pointless issue
22:43:25 <screws> so youre a big believer in god now eh?
22:43:33 <Oriole> pointless? mass murder is a non-issue?
22:43:59 <Oriole> how many babies have you had killed screws?
22:43:59 <screws> i bet you had nothing to say about the holocaust?
22:44:02 <screws> i rest my case
22:44:05 <Tigger_> there are atheists who are against abortion, even leftists often used to be, until the feminist wing completely dominated the left
22:44:19 <screws> oh so this is all just to get a rise out of me, okay.
22:45:00 <screws> let me ask you a question then. if a black woman wanted to terminate, what would you say to that
22:45:03 <Oriole> the holocaust? what would you like me to say? it was an atrocity. an atrocity which has been multiplied many times over since Roe v Wade
22:45:37 <screws> Oriole: you and President_Trump stand in stark opposition on that issue then
22:45:50 <Oriole> I speak for myself
22:46:04 <President_Trump> to what issue? the holocaust?
22:46:22 <screws> yeh
22:46:39 <screws> thats what i said... wasnt it...
22:46:41 <President_Trump> i dont remember ever talkign about it
22:46:57 <screws> im dam near certain youve said at least one time how much you hate jews
22:47:05 <Oriole> screws. when does a foetus become a human being?
22:47:17 <screws> no clue, dont really care
22:47:46 <screws> we only know about foetus's in the first place thanks to modern medicine
22:47:47 <Oriole> you don't care about human life?
22:48:05 <screws> dont recall saying that
22:48:07 <President_Trump> i dont hate jews, im neutral
22:48:13 <President_Trump> thats pliv and circle
22:48:15 <President_Trump> the jew haters
22:48:16 <Oriole> well before modern medicine foetuses were considered human beings
22:48:19 <screws> President_Trump: you change depending on the situation
22:48:23 <Oriole> foetus is the latin for baby
22:48:34 <President_Trump> i never say much about jews
22:48:44 <screws> theres many considerations here i dont think its a simple issue, i dont think its important but at the same time i dont think its so simple
22:48:45 <Tigger_> if the left want to move abortion up to 9 months, I'd like to move it up further, and start post-natal abortions of entire classes of people
22:48:48 <screws> what if a womans raped for example
22:49:02 <Oriole> 1,200,000 a year in the US
22:49:03 <screws> let me guess, i bet you would like that it would satisfy your misogynistic urges
22:49:07 <Oriole> gender selection
22:49:15 <Oriole> more males born than females in most countries
22:49:24 <Oriole> and you want to talk about rape
22:49:28 <Oriole> a logical fallacy
22:49:30 <Oriole> try again
22:49:52 <Tigger_> most countries that illegalised abortion did make exceptions for rape, Ireland was one of the few that didn't allow an exception for rape, so it's largely a phoney argument from feminists
22:49:54 <screws> question, do all women get abortions
22:50:22 <screws> ireland is super religo though
22:50:37 <screws> and im sure that they probably still did.... just cause theres a law doesnt mean ppl arent going to find ways around them
22:51:11 <Oriole> the law doesn't end evil, no. but the law restricts and restrains evil
22:51:17 <Oriole> this is the purpose of the law
22:51:34 <Oriole> theft is illegal . people steal
22:51:35 <Oriole> etc
22:51:59 <Tigger_> it's estimated that about 30% of women get abortions, which is more promising than I thought, that means that not all women in the underclass are dirty sluts
22:52:01 <Oriole> keep trying
22:52:40 <screws> when you say people steal, do you mean shoplifting or in general
22:53:02 <Oriole> any form of theft
22:53:13 <Tigger_> the way they did it in Ireland was go to England for the abortion
22:53:22 <amelia> I know someone who steals lemons from people's tree's
22:53:36 <screws> ok heres a hypothetical. what if a woman gets an abortion, then 2 years later actually has a baby
22:53:42 <screws> cause most women do want kids
22:53:50 <screws> the population will always grow no matter what really
22:54:22 <screws> i would never force a 18 year old woman to have a baby right now
22:54:46 <Tigger_> a woman who has had an abortion shouldn't ever be allowed to have kids
22:54:59 <screws> and even if for some warped perverted reason i did want her to have that baby, even though its none of my business, i wouldnt have the right to tell her what she can and cant do in terms of aborting
22:55:06 <President_Trump> screws why cant they have it then give it away?
22:55:19 <Oriole> here's a hypothetical, a society where people are encouraged to use self-control. so that there would be no more senseless murder and broken homes
22:55:25 <screws> President_Trump: is that really an ideal solution
22:55:58 <screws> well it would be nice to be living in a society where ppls homes arent broken into, but someone needs to be having all these juvenile delinquents dont they?
22:56:20 <Oriole> ?
22:56:42 <screws> what is self-control, are you saying all ppl should just stay abstinent
22:56:46 <Tigger_> there was a study that matched genetics against family trees in England going back to the 16th century, and they found that it was exceedingly rare for the father not to be the actual father, so social conditioning for sexual morality does actually work
22:56:52 <screws> ppl should just not fuck is that the solution
22:57:06 <Oriole> keep it in the marriage bed
22:57:28 <screws> Tigger_: i heard that some 1 in 10 kids have been raised by a parent that wasnt their biological parent
22:57:29 <screws> or something
22:57:38 <screws> it mightve been a bit less than that
22:57:46 <screws> sexual morality doesnt exist
22:57:48 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQfS5Urwt44&list=RDF7EWqhU2bfk&index=25
22:57:53 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Real McCoy - Love & Devotion + Lyrics (Feb 8, 2013) Length: 3:57 - Category: Music - 50,672 views views - 174 likes (96.1%), 7 dislikes (3.9%)
22:58:10 <Tigger_> there are a lot of myths about cuckoldry, it's not as common as rumour suggests
22:58:58 <Tigger_> it's too obvious when it happens. Exhibit A: Khloe Kardashian
22:59:01 <screws> a lot of women out there dont know who the father is...
22:59:14 <screws> did khloe have an extramarital affair?
22:59:15 <lolli1> Khloe Kardash is one bad mother
22:59:25 <lolli1> or no thats kim
22:59:41 <screws> who was that rugby player that learnt his wife had an affair
22:59:41 <lolli1> illuminati fuktard
22:59:42 <Oriole> screws what do you think about mothers who smother their babies in the crib?
22:59:45 <screws> and his baby wasnt his
22:59:53 <Oriole> or mothers who leave their babies in a hot car
22:59:56 <screws> what do you mean by smother
23:00:14 <screws> well, its obviously bad but i mean theres a diff between deliberately killing your child and accidentally
23:00:18 <Oriole> or who are negligent in feeding them and keeping them in a safe state for sleeping
23:00:34 <screws> well it makes you wonder if abortion is worse, or what you just said is worse
23:00:55 <screws> i still think homelessness is a bigger issue were facing, and stuff like domestic violence
23:01:01 <Oriole> what's the difference between killing the child in the womb or as soon as it comes out?
23:01:06 <screws> our own citizens starving and having no shelter
23:01:07 <Oriole> LOL
23:01:14 <screws> australia citizens who are refugees in our own country
23:01:20 <Oriole> that is not an argument
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23:01:32 <Tigger_> starving isn't real in the west (except for lemon starvation)
23:01:48 <President_Trump> screws we should give the homeless food and accommodation instead of the rapefugees
23:01:57 <Oriole> let's weigh up (subjectively) which ethical issue is bigger, because we have no arguments on the issue AT HAND
23:02:07 <IvanTheBastard> <President_Trump> screws we should give the homeless food and accommodation instead of the rapefugees <-- TRUTH
23:02:34 <Tigger_> homelessness is real though in Australia though
23:02:39 <Tigger_> - though
23:03:36 <screws> we live in one of the wealthiest countries, our home is dirt by sea
23:03:40 <screws> as the song suggests
23:03:59 <Oriole> what's the difference between killing the child in the womb or as soon as it comes out?
23:04:08 <screws> i duno, i just dont know why we need to constantly talk about abortion, its tiring
23:04:15 <screws> we just disagree on that one lets leave it at that
23:04:56 <Oriole> well you raised it
23:05:02 <screws> Oriole: some ppl on your side like to argue "what if it was you who was aborted" (meaning me)
23:05:10 <screws> who knows, maybe i was aborted a few times? lol
23:05:16 <screws> depends if you believe in re-incarnation
23:05:17 <Oriole> yes Tigger_ mentioned 'reproductive rights' but you turned it into a discussion on 'abortion'
23:05:23 <IvanTheBastard> there is no 'agree to disagree' in #pd, there must be a clear conclusion with clear victory, else the topic shall continue until such a time as a clear victory is announced by an independant 3rd party
23:05:49 <screws> lets face it no one is independant on the issue of abortion
23:06:00 <screws> youre either for or against
23:06:29 <President_Trump> it should be mandatory for all people of colour
23:06:34 <President_Trump> that is my position
23:06:43 <Oriole> <screws> depends if you believe in re-incarnation <----you argue like a child. rather reincarnation has nothing to do with whether you believe in it or not, it either is or isn't. meanwhile if it does exist you could argue that abot any human death couldn't you?
23:06:45 <Tigger_> leftist argumentation: 1. because Australia has a high GDP per capita, 2. we're morally obliged to import hundreds of thousands of refugees. ignoring the reality that there are plenty well below the mean, whose lives are made much worse by the precious refugees
23:07:01 <Oriole> nice one IvanTheBastard
23:07:03 <Tigger_> lol Ivan
23:07:23 <screws> i guess you could
23:07:49 <IvanTheBastard> >:]
23:07:53 <Tigger_> if Van Badham ever got pregnant (unlikely I know) I'd shoot her through the belly myself
23:07:57 <Oriole> but even the religions who do believe in reincanation value human life
23:08:22 <screws> jean claude van damham
23:08:49 <Oriole> what's your highest level of education screws
23:09:48 <xm> Ethics - University of Phoenix
23:10:24 <IvanTheBastard> Bachelor Of Arts
23:10:35 <screws> oxford
23:11:12 <screws> anyhow look, once every so often i come across people who are passionately pro-life
23:11:16 <screws> thats good for you
23:11:17 <Oriole> what's the difference between killing the child in the womb or as soon as it comes out? <-----ANSWER OR GET OUT
23:11:35 <screws> the question doesnt make any sense
23:11:39 <screws> do you mean the same day it comes out?
23:11:41 <screws> 1 year lateR?
23:11:41 <screws> what
23:11:52 <IvanTheBastard> There is no difference, only a cold hard killer would say the unborn baby doesnt have any rights
23:11:54 <President_Trump> 1 min later
23:12:06 <Oriole> an infant
23:12:07 <screws> 1 min later, so it dies of natural causes?
23:12:10 <President_Trump> IvanTheBastard crooked hillary
23:12:18 <Oriole> 'kill'
23:12:28 <Oriole> do you understand that term?
23:12:53 <IvanTheBastard> Well we KNOW she is a cold hard killer, plenty of people who have got too close to the truth have mysteriously died of a car accident with 3 self inflicted bullet wounds to the head
23:13:01 <screws> if im being honest, in both cases obviously the woman doesnt want the child one way or the other, but there seems something significantly more violent about killing a living breathing thing compared to something that hasnt even got close to fully developed yet
23:13:16 <Oriole> ok
23:13:17 <screws> theres something intrinsictly more violent and cold blooded about killing a living breathing animal/human
23:13:39 <screws> but if a woman is a few months in, some women btw only realise theyre pregnant well after they boned
23:13:46 <Oriole> so at what point is an abortion wrong. given some people are born 2 months premature and survive etc?
23:13:59 <screws> i have a relative who didnt know she was preg until it was waaay to late to 'legally' abort it under our current laws
23:14:04 <screws> so that was that really
23:14:18 <President_Trump> do u think she should have killed it?
23:14:22 <screws> Oriole: well we can debate that one till the cows come home cant we
23:15:17 <screws> i dont think ive ever really thought this deeply about abortion before President_Trump
23:15:33 <Tigger_> did she put it up for adoption?
23:15:37 <screws> but honestly like you have a lot of young girls out there who arent allowed to abort, so they dump it next to a tree or something.... i mean
23:15:40 <President_Trump> u were highly offended when trump said the woman should be punished
23:15:45 <Oriole> so screw, you just said killing a baby outside the womb is worse than killing a baby in the womb, cos it is more 'developed'. what about a baby in the womb that is 7 months old and may well be able, at that point, to survice outside the womb
23:16:19 <screws> look um i dont know, i dont think ANY doctor in the world would permit an abortion at 7 months anyhow
23:16:23 <screws> so whats there to talk about
23:16:32 <Oriole> PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION
23:16:39 <Oriole> HILLARY AND OBAMA ARE FOR IT
23:16:47 <Oriole> check your facts
23:16:59 <President_Trump> it's 'progess'
23:17:03 <screws> i think the final thing that should be said about abortion is that, well,, accidents do happen
23:17:08 <Oriole> so how many months then screws ?
23:17:11 <Oriole> 1 month?
23:17:13 <Oriole> 2 months?
23:17:16 <Oriole> 3 months?
23:17:18 <Oriole> 4?
23:17:19 <Oriole> 5?
23:17:24 <screws> if we go down that road we'll be here forever lol
23:17:31 <Tigger_> it's interesting you mention doctors, because it's very hard to find qualified doctors to work in abortion clinics, that's not why they went into medicine, so abortionists are often drug addicts that can't work anywhere else
23:17:33 <Oriole> you can't answer
23:17:48 <Oriole> indeed Tigger_
23:17:52 <President_Trump> screws what about if half the baby is out and the other half is in the womans body still?
23:17:57 <screws> Tigger_: right is that why it costs $500 to get one
23:18:12 <screws> im not really sure if youre just joking now
23:18:18 <Tigger_> well it's true
23:18:44 <screws> Oriole: i dont understand what your obsession is based on...... why do you feel that our population growth should be exponentially more than what it is (you might have a legit reason)
23:19:05 Quit: IvanTheBastard ([email protected]) Quit: If you could reason with muslims, there would be no muslims
23:19:06 <Oriole> that is a separate issue
23:19:09 <Oriole> a straw man
23:19:12 <screws> do we need more like workers or something?
23:19:16 <screws> like what is it
23:19:18 <Oriole> stick to the issue. is abortion ethical or not
23:19:34 <screws> or is it just purely based on religion
23:19:49 <Oriole> religion is the root of my ethics yes
23:20:00 <screws> abortion in a plain sense is okay.
23:20:02 <Tigger_> he was a junky himself: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/17/pa-abortion-doctor-gosnell-gets-30-years-for-illegal-drugs.html
23:20:04 <Oriole> you and I and all others are made in the image of God
23:20:09 <screws> okay so i think i understand your motivations now
23:20:14 <screws> a bit better
23:20:16 <Oriole> which is why murder is a sin
23:20:48 <Oriole> conception only happens if God wills it
23:20:53 <screws> yeh but nobody ever got charged with murder for, lets say killing a rodent
23:21:21 <Oriole> so when a baby, a human life is conceived, that foetus is made in the image of God, and the blood of the one who kills it will be upon them
23:21:40 <Oriole> you compare a human to a rodent
23:22:08 <screws> i really think medicine and religion should stay as far away as it can from politics
23:22:33 <Oriole> that is impossible
23:22:42 <Oriole> everyone has a god
23:22:47 <Oriole> even the atheist
23:22:50 <screws> i remember that as recently as the 70s, if a criminal could make it to a church before the cops could catch them, the person would be immune from arrest and prosecution
23:23:12 <Oriole> everyone has a religion, especially the one who says "i don't believe in organised religion, I am spiritual"
23:23:17 <screws> and so that law doesnt really exist anymore...
23:23:36 <screws> are we talking about atheists right now?
23:23:45 <Tigger_> usually a vanity religion "I'm too good for 2,000 years of theology"
23:24:56 <screws> i dont think we live under a 'vengeful' god....
23:25:10 <Oriole> you don't like to see justice done?
23:25:22 <screws> and he hasnt told us to dictate to other people what they can and cant do
23:25:40 <Oriole> he does that himself
23:25:41 <screws> Oriole: it really depends, again its iffy territory
23:25:55 <Oriole> and his prophets and preachers herald the message
23:26:11 <screws> yeh but i dont think god is an a-hole if a woman cannot have a baby at that point in her life i dont think its written in the good book that she needs to be punished
23:26:14 <Oriole> for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God
23:26:19 <screws> to me thats like spanish inquisition thinking
23:26:30 <Oriole> a woman?
23:26:36 <Oriole> what about a baby girl?
23:26:39 <screws> its also a sin to use electricity on a friday night but.... um.... well....
23:26:58 <Tigger_> why should a woman who has an abortion be seen as no different to a moral woman who doesn't have abortions?
23:27:03 <screws> being gay is a sin, are we going to start eliminating all that are gay?
23:27:21 <screws> because everyone has fallen short
23:27:24 <Oriole> no we give them a chance to repent before God does that himself
23:27:26 Quit: couleurs ([email protected]) Quit: ok bye
23:27:39 <screws> you think a woman whos had no abortions hasnt done anything else wrong in her life? you dont know. maybe she stole something like Oriole said before
23:27:53 <Oriole> yes
23:27:56 <screws> isnt the whole idea of jesus is that every person has fallen short of god
23:27:59 <Oriole> all have sinned
23:28:02 <screws> and we put our sins onto him or some shiz
23:28:22 <screws> okay so Tigger_ - they who is without sin cast the first stone
23:28:22 <Oriole> he who says he is without sin deceives himself and calls god a liar
23:28:28 <screws> wiser words were never spoken
23:29:04 <Oriole> screws, so you don't believe in law courts and jails, or the rule of law?
23:29:12 <Oriole> you're an anarchist?
23:29:22 <screws> lets say you had to miss sunday mass cause your sick grandmother was in hospital, i dont think gods going to be like "YOU MOTHERFUCKER"
23:29:33 <Tigger_> screws, take another example, those females who go on "slutwalks", they insist that they are equivalent to women who are not promiscuous
23:29:42 <screws> what is a slutwalk now
23:30:08 <Tigger_> it's a protest where ugly women boast about being sluts, and usually don't wear much
23:30:17 <screws> well
23:30:25 <screws> obviously they arent on their way to sunday mass if they are dressed like that
23:30:26 <screws> but honestly
23:30:29 <screws> i have bigger concerns in my life
23:30:33 <screws> than how some women be dressing
23:30:43 <Tigger_> in essence they are trying to make the case that women who do not act as they do, should not be considered any better than them
23:30:44 <screws> so i dont get judgemental about it
23:30:51 <screws> apparently the good book sense only god may judge
23:31:08 <Oriole> screws, we aren't catholics
23:31:09 <Tigger_> judgement happens all the time, and with good reason
23:31:17 <Oriole> we don't do mass
23:31:34 <screws> Oriole: what are you
23:32:03 <Oriole> and screws, you said God is not vengeful. that is blasphemy. and if you don't repent, He will take vengence upon your soul
23:32:07 <screws> Tigger_ in essence they are trying to make the case that women who do not act as they do, should not be considered any better than them
23:32:09 <screws> i disagree
23:32:11 <Oriole> I'm a Protestant
23:32:35 <screws> so youre like a progressive christian
23:32:38 <Tigger_> one makes a judgement when one hopes to marry a pretty girl who isn't promiscuous, hasn't got a bunch of kids to different fathers of different races, isn't a drug addict with STDs, etc.
23:32:54 <Oriole> let me guess screws, you grew up catholic?
23:33:01 <screws> they make that judgement before Tigger_ , not after
23:33:10 * Warren1984 amelia hates me ;(
23:33:13 <Oriole> a 'progressive Christian' ?
23:33:21 <Oriole> I am the anti-progressive
23:33:23 <Warren1984> Oriole are you catholic?
23:33:24 <Oriole> I am Reformed
23:33:28 <screws> i dont think im at liberty to say
23:33:37 <Warren1984> reformed from what?
23:33:38 <Oriole> catholic in the original sense, not the Roman Catholic sense
23:33:38 <xm> Warren1984: did you threaten to put somethign she loves on fire?
23:33:50 <Warren1984> no xm
23:34:01 <Warren1984> I asked her if she walked past me today
23:34:02 <screws> what about all the sperm that die from masturbating, is that mass murder
23:34:15 <Oriole> screws who told you God is not vengeful?
23:34:16 <Warren1984> then I asked how old she was
23:34:23 <xm> why did you think she walked past you?
23:34:23 <Oriole> sperm are not human beings
23:34:32 <Oriole> sperm are not made in the image of God
23:34:37 <Warren1984> dunno xm
23:34:39 <Oriole> how many sperm are there in one wad?
23:34:47 <President_Trump> screws when did u last masturbate?
23:34:55 <Warren1984> just saw some blonde haired chick walk past me
23:34:59 <Warren1984> hard to describe
23:35:15 <Warren1984> she said how do you know my hair colour
23:35:15 <screws> Oriole: if youre a believer in the new testament, then you probably do not believe god is angry and vengeful
23:35:18 <Warren1984> I said I don't
23:35:27 <Oriole> let's test that
23:35:31 <Warren1984> but anyway some chick walked right past me
23:35:35 <Warren1984> must be paranoia
23:36:09 <xm> better to walk right past you than through you
23:36:12 <xm> ghosts are kinda scary
23:36:31 <Oriole> Rev 20 The Judgment of the Dead
23:36:31 <Oriole> 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up
23:36:31 <Oriole> the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
23:36:40 <Warren1984> xm it's time to speak in tounges
23:36:43 <Tigger_> Revelation 3:16King James Version (KJV)
23:36:43 <Tigger_> 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
23:36:48 <Oriole> Jesus Christ is the Judge
23:45:21 <screws> even YOU have sinned
23:45:36 <screws> the potters house is antisemitic are they
23:45:40 <Oriole> moreover, Jesus was not talking about judgement per se, but hypocritical judgement
23:45:56 <screws> yeh
23:46:04 <screws> he was like why should ppl be hypocrits
23:46:11 Join: Tim-Sim ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
23:46:14 <Oriole> as I said above, God approves of state law and punishment
23:46:18 <Oriole> read above
23:46:18 <Tigger_> screws, are you saying that court judges are disobeying Jesus?
23:46:21 <Oriole> read the quotes
23:46:25 <Warren1984> Allah is the Jews new King
23:46:27 <Tigger_> hi Tim-Sim
23:46:29 <screws> if i told a woman she couldnt have an abortion while i enjoyed pre-marital sex, then id be a hypocrit
23:46:31 <Tim-Sim> hi Tigger_
23:46:38 <screws> im just going by jesus.... thats alll
23:46:53 <screws> Waffen1942: just shut up already
23:46:58 <Warren1984> ISIS was sent down by Allahu to take back the land of Israel
23:47:06 <screws> mmm, good luck with that.
23:47:12 <Oriole> Jesus also said he is the 'fulfilment' of the law
23:47:20 <Warren1984> what law?
23:47:21 <Oriole> Jesus was pro-Law of Moses
23:47:38 <Oriole> he resented the hypocrites and any hypocrite who administrates it tho
23:47:40 <screws> i cannot have pre-marital sex and force a woman into having babies
23:47:48 <screws> it doesnt even make sense from even a religious standpoint
23:48:03 <Oriole> then don't have pre marital sex
23:48:08 <screws> well
23:48:11 <screws> thats not going to happen
23:48:12 <screws> is it
23:48:16 <Oriole> but once you do and a baby conceives, that person deserves to live
23:48:20 <Oriole> it can happen
23:48:27 <screws> why dont you make me, tough guy
23:48:29 <Oriole> it is called 'personal responsibility'
23:48:50 <screws> but its also called having a baby out of wedlock
23:48:50 <Warren1984> Oriole pre-marital sex was chosen to protect the emotions of mainly women
23:48:58 <screws> btw.... do protestants believe in using condoms
23:49:07 <Oriole> yes
23:49:13 <screws> okay. interesting
23:49:28 <Warren1984> Idealist men i.e. INFJs and INFPs would most likely support sex after marriage
23:49:59 <Warren1984> the problem is, if in a women's mind she wants to cheat
23:50:11 <Warren1984> doesn't that make it un-natural
23:50:14 <Tigger_> anti-contraception is a Catholic thing, in their war of demographic attrition against Protestants
23:50:22 <Warren1984> why do you have to possess her?
23:50:32 <Warren1984> only some Catholics Tigger_
23:50:32 <Oriole> interesting idea Tigger_
23:50:41 <Warren1984> Oriole
23:50:43 <screws> thank you Tigger_
23:50:53 <Oriole> screws are your parents catholics?
23:50:56 <screws> if she got her tubes tied would that piss you off as well
23:51:02 <President_Trump> channel 2, a show is on called 'PRESIDENT TRUMP'
23:51:03 <screws> Oriole: how about none of your business?
23:51:05 <Warren1984> if a woman is tempted to cheat why ever date her?
23:51:14 <Warren1984> it would just be a means to an ends
23:51:18 <screws> everyone gets tempted
23:51:23 <screws> doesnt mean you do it
23:51:40 <Oriole> screws you have a jacked up view of religion because you were raised catholic
23:51:47 <Warren1984> but it means they don't love you
23:52:01 <screws> Oriole: what makes you think that after all my support of abortion
23:52:22 <Oriole> because you have repudiated the faith of your youth
23:52:24 <Warren1984> what about all those fucked up sexual things people do like eating shit, raping dead bodies etc
23:52:35 <screws> isnt there provisions for abortion anyway... like when you get a dispensation
23:52:54 <Oriole> ?
23:53:00 <screws> you know, a dispensation
23:53:17 <Oriole> a pass?
23:53:26 <screws> when the pope or someone up there grants an exemption to a certain rule
23:53:48 <screws> for someone
23:54:01 <Tigger_> one of the interesting things about Catholicism is that it treats contraception and abortion as essentially being morally equivalent, and so trivialises abortion
23:54:18 <Oriole> indeed Tigger_
23:54:27 <Oriole> screws I don't know what you are talking about
23:55:22 <screws> you need to learn how to fucking read.
23:55:28 <Tigger_> a plenary indulgence I assume
23:55:53 <Oriole> screws you need to learn how to form a cogent argument and be willing to have it tested
23:56:44 <screws> you just interpret the biblehowever you want
23:57:07 <Oriole> you shall not murder
23:57:12 <screws> i think its fair to say that written in there it says let he who is without sin cast the first stone
23:57:23 <Oriole> how many diff interpretations does that allow?
23:57:56 <screws> it just means look at yourself before you punish someone else
23:57:57 <Tigger_> Jesus also quickly followed that by telling the woman to sin no more
23:57:59 <Oriole> yes that is written in there. and I have addressed that issue
23:58:07 <Oriole> he did Tigger_
23:58:12 <screws> Tigger_: show me
23:59:06 <Tigger_> [7] So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
23:59:06 <Tigger_> [8] And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
23:59:06 <Tigger_> [9] And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
23:59:06 <Tigger_> [10] When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
23:59:08 <Tigger_> [11] She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
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