// #politicaldebate — 2016-11-19
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18:03:56 Topic Is: Bernie believes in white power: https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/798192678785716224 SJWs go nuclear at him
18:03:56 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Wed Nov 16 22:33:00 2016
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18:04:42 <Tigger_> they are so boring and repetitive that they're sort of invisible to me, I mentally don't actually see their text, but that's not the case for anyone who isn't used to them
18:04:49 <Tim-Sim> ok, I'll keep that in mind
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18:47:36 <President_Trump> https://buymobile.com.au/collections/4g-phones/products/iphone-7-plus-256gb-4g-lte?variant=28744887750#tabify-0
18:50:02 <lolli1> $1659 for a phone. A real bargin
18:53:52 <President_Trump> they are making phones so fast now coz they do so many background functions sending data to the government (i)(i)(i)(i)(i)(i)(i)(i)(i)
18:54:48 <lolli1> yeah probably
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18:55:42 <DaylightSlavingTime> you'd be a fool if you didn't buy the 256Gb iPhone 7
18:56:01 <Tim-Sim> The google application can track everything on your phone if the permissions are set right
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18:56:35 <Tim-Sim> and backs it up to the google cloud
18:57:37 <lolli1> yes nothing is safe 👌︎
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18:58:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> what are you trying to hide?
18:58:09 <Tim-Sim> locations, messages, address book, call history, browser history, voice signature, password backup, etc.
18:58:21 <Tim-Sim> bank details
18:58:38 <President_Trump> what is voice signature?
18:58:40 <lolli1> good luck with that
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19:00:22 <Tim-Sim> emails
19:00:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> a smart terrorist would have two phones, one completely full of NSA spyware to be feed them lots of innocent info, and a second heavily encrypted phone for doing their terrorist work
19:00:44 <Tim-Sim> The voice signature is used to tune voice recognition so that it can understand your commnads, it needs microphone access to do so and can be used to activate passively when making calls. Some feedback goes back to google to improve their services
19:02:47 <Tim-Sim> the microphone has to be on and recording a sample for you to be able to pick up your phone and say "ok google, search blah blah blah" or "ok google, drive to blah blah"
19:03:03 <President_Trump> u can turn off any app permission u want with later versions of android cant u?
19:03:48 <Tim-Sim> yes you can turn the feature off, you can also turn off the storage of you voice signature, and you can turn off the feedback to google"
19:04:34 <Tim-Sim> the application encourages you to back things up to your google drive (cloud storage) so that you can recover things if you lose your phone etc.
19:04:48 <President_Trump> with any app i mean? u know how they request about 10 permissions
19:04:52 <President_Trump> that have nothing to do with the app
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19:06:12 <Tim-Sim> yes, there are the permissions when you install it, but to have google maps work you need locations, and for other services it needs your contact list, microphone access, camera access, folder access
19:06:31 <Tim-Sim> most phones come with it preinstalled
19:13:08 <Tim-Sim> the navigator records your movement activity and predicts where you work and where your home is
19:13:20 <Tim-Sim> friends places etc
19:13:42 <President_Trump> turn off gps
19:14:03 <Tim-Sim> yes, it can be disabled
19:16:19 <Tim-Sim> a lot of people would have there permissions turnd on and if they have all their permissions on, contact lists, address books, microphone, gps etc. then you could be potentially tracked, to an extent too
19:16:51 <Tim-Sim> if you speak to them on the phone, they have your address in their contact list etc.
19:17:17 <Tim-Sim> I am sure all this would drive paranoid people crazy
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19:18:35 <Tim-Sim> a lot of people would have their phones being tracked with the background service on just in case the lose their phone, then they can log into google account online and see where the phone is
19:19:34 <Tim-Sim> it is just a little service that runs in the background, auto executes when you turn the phone on
19:20:18 <Tim-Sim> then you have the linked fitness application with all your stats
19:23:25 <Tim-Sim> The google headquarters would be much like cerberus from X-men
19:26:22 <Tim-Sim> Cerebro
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19:43:52 <imlet> where is joke?
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19:49:33 <joke> if a woman does have sex with me real soon
19:49:37 <joke> doesnt
19:49:43 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:44 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:45 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:46 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:47 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:47 <imlet> good
19:49:48 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:49 <joke> I m going kill myself
19:49:49 Quit: joke ([email protected]) Excess flood
19:49:51 <imlet> kill yourself
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19:50:21 <xm1> Excess from blue balls
19:50:26 <xm1> Excess flood*
19:50:48 <xm1> a deadly condition, leading to death
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20:00:40 <ZapbuzZ> i wish we had smart leaders for australia im sick of malcum turncoats dsp manslaughterers
20:01:20 <President_Trump> hopefully lord abbott will take over soon
20:02:05 <ZapbuzZ> in victoria alone, over 2000 people died this year shortly after being kicked off the dsp network
20:02:26 <ZapbuzZ> this is treason
20:02:29 <President_Trump> maybe we should kick more people off then if that is the result
20:02:51 <Oriole> how did they die ZapbuzZ
20:03:33 <ZapbuzZ> lack of resources for medication and psichriatric support
20:04:06 <ZapbuzZ> ha the so called mental health wings in hospitals around me are full of narcotic addicts
20:04:26 <ZapbuzZ> sitting around whulst those who dont do it die
20:05:19 <Oriole> so how did they die?
20:05:34 <ZapbuzZ> wait a moment i'll look at my sources
20:06:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> got a citation for the 2,000 D$P'ers dying?
20:09:05 <ZapbuzZ> http://the-pen.co/2600-dead-within-weeks-declared-fit-work-centrelink/
20:10:20 <President_Trump> need to kill off dsp'ers to fund the rapefugee program
20:11:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> the first comment:
20:11:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> Around 100 people per month have been dying, shortly after being ruled well enough to take a job.”
20:11:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> Show source or I am calling bullshit. With Australia’s population size, you could just be counting natural deaths and accidents with that figure and it has no correlation to your point at all. Show your source, that is unless you cherry picked facts to suit your argument and you can’t show your source because it would show you are just making shit up, but that’s not the case here… right??
20:12:20 <ZapbuzZ> google u shall see every major news company has covered it
20:12:54 <ZapbuzZ> im a cigarette smoker therefore im a victim of economic treason
20:12:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> in the comments the citations turn out to be for England, not Australia
20:13:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> Malcolm Turnbull is killing English D$Pers
20:13:28 <Oriole> well you have proven ZapbuzZ, that you are not fit for work yourself
20:13:37 <ZapbuzZ> oops
20:13:50 <ZapbuzZ> i hate him :)
20:14:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> Charlotte | September 4, 2016 at 11:11 am | Reply
20:14:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> Where did these figures come from? This story will be big if it’s true, but coming from a small site with no sources is hardly credible. I’ve just taken a look at the Department of Human Services website and found nothing, so can you point me in the right direction?
20:14:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> “There is no reason to believe this story is false.”
20:14:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> There is until we can see the facts and your source ourselves. Otherwise, we have no idea if you’re making it up or extrapolating/massaging data.
20:14:13 <ZapbuzZ> im suffering withdrawals so my bad for
20:14:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> Maisie Garland | September 4, 2016 at 11:18 am | Reply
20:14:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> This has been copied (badly) from a UK source and refers to the situation there. You need to take it down immediately.
20:15:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> all the comments then on are rubbishing the article for its bogus stats
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20:16:23 <ZapbuzZ> my appologies
20:17:14 <ZapbuzZ> can ihave a cigarette plzZzzzzZZZz
20:17:21 <ZapbuzZ> runs away
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20:17:56 <President_Trump> who is that person?
20:18:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> I've seen him on before
20:18:21 <President_Trump> reminds me of someone that used to come in here and whinge about mentally ill and govenrment cuts
20:18:25 <Oriole> a worthwhile contribution
20:20:32 <DaylightSlavingTime> remember this next time you see an article "Trump Kills Thousands of Mexican Muslim Trannies Each Week."
20:22:26 <Arbition> I'd be suprised if there were even 1000 Mexican Muslim Transvestites in existence
20:23:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> there is if you use Huffington Post Maths
20:27:27 <Arbition> for 2/3 of those attributes perhaps
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20:38:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> another racial hoax, yet again they get the swastikas around the wrong way:
20:38:46 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3951880/Beastie-Boys-Adam-Yauch-Park-playground-New-York-defaced-swastikas-pro-Trump-graffiti.html
20:43:10 <Lish> I ate too much ice cream
20:44:27 <Oriole> how'd that happen?
20:44:44 <Lish> Just didn't stop
20:44:46 <Lish> Now I feel sick
20:45:16 <DaylightSlavingTime> what icecream was it?
20:45:51 <Lish> Cold rock
20:45:52 <Oriole> that's what happens when you don't use a bowl, ya just eat out of the tub
20:46:07 <Lish> I got cake batter with gummy bears and fruit tingles mixed in
20:46:37 <DaylightSlavingTime> what did you get at Cold Rock?
20:46:40 <DaylightSlavingTime> oh
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20:46:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> I've never tried cake batter icecream
20:47:03 <Lish> It's pretty good
20:47:03 <Oriole> so you ordered too much?
20:47:30 <Lish> I got a small take home tub
20:47:45 <Lish> The rest is in the freezer
20:48:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> doesn't sound like too much
20:48:10 <Oriole> you must be cashed up
20:48:29 <Lish> Why
20:48:40 <Oriole> a tub of cold rock?
20:48:49 <Lish> Oh
20:48:58 <DaylightSlavingTime> you just want to show off you have icecream, by using the pretext of saying you had too much
20:49:06 <Lish> My husband is so boring, he got vanilla with twix mixed in
20:49:16 <Lish> No I always say I have ice cream if I want to show off I have ice cream
20:49:23 <Lish> This time I literally ate too much I feel sick haha
20:50:02 <Oriole> you are what you eat
20:50:06 <Lish> This Cold Rock delivers, though I've never got it delivered. It seems weird to get ice cream delivered
20:50:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> that would be great
20:51:38 <Lish> Yeah it seems so strange lol
20:52:33 <DaylightSlavingTime> what is their minimum order?
20:52:40 <Lish> I'll have a look
20:53:58 <Lish> $20
20:54:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> not too bad
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20:54:56 <Kezzy> http://i.imgur.com/MEI7pfJ.jpg
20:55:02 <Lish> Yeah pretty good
20:55:20 <Lish> Oriole: will you go to church tomorrow?
20:56:10 <Kezzy> LOL @ Lish
20:56:11 <Kezzy> back again
20:56:13 <Kezzy> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
20:56:19 <Kezzy> Lish tell us about your married life
20:56:23 <Kezzy> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
20:56:46 <Oriole> unfortunately no. I stopped going to church about 12 months ago. a very disappointing experience. looking for a new one
20:57:03 <Lish> What happened?
20:57:26 <Oriole> I questioned the pastor and he said I was of the devil.
20:57:37 <Lish> What did you question him about?
20:57:53 <NeXus> LOLOLOLOL
20:58:54 <Tim-Sim> Oriole: If he said that to me, I would understand but why did he say that about you
20:58:56 <Tim-Sim> ?
20:59:26 <Oriole> clarification on his teaching, his style, and on his letting a charlatan false teacher into the church. he is one of these guys who thinks he has done all the hard work, now he can just get in the pulpit and teach things and make claims and not have to back them up with evidence, logic
21:00:00 <Tim-Sim> that's ironinc
21:00:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> what was the charlatan teaching?
21:00:10 <Oriole> Tim-Sim because I am theologically trained too. he probably felt threatened. didn't want to explain his stupid teaching
21:00:13 <Lish> Oh ok
21:00:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> and what was the teaching?
21:01:21 <Tim-Sim> Oriole, have you ever heard of people praying for Satan's soul? As in, if there is a sinner who needs praying for, it would have to be Satan?
21:01:22 <Oriole> well the visitor, the charlatan is one of these loopy fanatical pentecostals, and this one not only teaches insane things but has been involved in various scandals to do with money etc
21:01:59 <DaylightSlavingTime> pentecostals are never too far from money
21:02:05 <Oriole> Tim-Sim, I am sure that exists. But I don't pray for it. Why? Because the Bible tells us plainly what the devil's fate will be
21:02:54 <Tim-Sim> Oriole: it wasn't about gay marriage was it?
21:03:58 <Oriole> <DaylightSlavingTime> and what was the teaching?. <----don't want to go into it, not important. but what mattters is I was not gonna leave over it. it was wrong but it didn't condemn my pastor as a heretic or anything, just an idiot. but with how he treated me, in light of the treatment I had received from others in that church, it was all forming a pattern of cult-like abuse
21:05:03 <Oriole> no it wasn't an ethical issue Tim-Sim. just a doctrinal issue. however I guess truth and falsehood is an ethical issue. as is the duty on the proclaimer to bear the burden of proof
21:05:42 <Tim-Sim> Then Oriole realised the futiliy of it all, abandoned all hope and joined Atheism. :)
21:05:58 <Lish> Do you give money to your religion Oriole?
21:06:15 <Oriole> so Lish. it is all pretty hopeless for me at the moment. sucks when the church has fallen the way it has into divers error
21:06:22 <Oriole> not at the moment Lish
21:06:36 <Lish> If you find a new church, would you?
21:06:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> atheism has had a recent major schism where the Atheist Plus contingent rebelled against New Atheists, it was very popcorn worthy
21:06:48 <Oriole> if the pastor was worth it
21:07:05 <Lish> How much do people give?
21:07:20 <Oriole> problem is, many pastors aren't worth it, yet they all too often preach about giving to the cause, whilst they are living in flash houses and their kids in private school
21:09:11 <Oriole> Lish, in the OT the tithe was 10%. In the NT there is no requirement. We are told to give whatever we want. But some pastors say 10%, some say more. Decent pastors will not say any amount. In fact decent pastors never ask for money, because if you're service is worth it, people will support you
21:09:30 <Lish> 10% of what?
21:09:53 <Oriole> income, in the OT, an agrarian society, that would mean 10% of your grain etc
21:10:05 <Oriole> and that was for the nation state of Israel
21:10:09 <Oriole> a theocracy
21:10:13 <DaylightSlavingTime> in the OT times people were not subject to taxation at multiple levels of govt though, so it's not really applicable today
21:10:31 <Kezzy> thats not true
21:11:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> a 10% flat tax would be a great idea though
21:11:12 <Lish> 10% of your income!!!
21:11:17 <Lish> That is ridiculous
21:11:17 <Oriole> Lish the problem with a lot of pastors is that they are not pastors. a pastor is supposed to take care of and serve the flock, not the other way around
21:11:52 <Kezzy> its 20%
21:11:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish, please keep your dumbness in check
21:12:05 <Oriole> Cos Jesus said whoeever wants to be first should be last and whoever is last will be first of all
21:12:07 <Kezzy> Lish is a moron
21:12:38 <Lish> DaylightSlavingTime: wtf? Paying a church 10% of your income is sensible to you? You're religious and I doubt you pay anyone 10%
21:12:47 <Kezzy> 10% is fine
21:12:51 <Kezzy> sensible
21:12:58 <Kezzy> you pay govt way more than that
21:13:01 <Kezzy> is that sensible?
21:13:07 <DaylightSlavingTime> the govt charges a lot more than 10%, and you're not spluttering about that
21:13:29 <Oriole> my last pastor, Lish, would go on rants about how 'it is not your money, it is God's money, don't you wanna see the kingdom grow?'
21:13:36 <Tim-Sim> DaylightSlavingTime: I am not really keen on Richard Dakins at the moment. His facebook feed has been full of anti-trump propaganda. It was nice to see that a lot of follow atheists rejecting it though
21:13:42 <Lish> Yeah but I don't have a choice in that, plus if people are paying tax and 10% that's a lot I think
21:13:42 <DaylightSlavingTime> what did he define the kingdom as?
21:14:25 <Oriole> well, it was a church plant, so growing his church, evangelism, etc
21:14:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> I saw that Thunderf00t did a few anti-Trump rants too, he should just stick to feminists and young earth creationists
21:15:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> so 'kingdom' in a more literal sense, of personal empire
21:17:06 <Oriole> yeah. some guys like money. some guys like prestige and power. or all of the above. the main problem is that most pastors are well trained in etiquette and networking but not so good in things like, deductive reasoning, understanding the Bible, thinking theologically, and teaching clearly
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21:17:38 <Oriole> SoupNazi, how you going?
21:17:47 <Oriole> xm1
21:17:52 <Oriole> thestig1
21:17:56 <Oriole> stebie
21:18:01 <Oriole> Ratler
21:18:08 <Oriole> grem
21:18:10 <Oriole> etc
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21:18:24 <Lish> Are there female pastors? I think there is, right....?
21:18:42 <Oriole> yes in liberal and fanatical churches there are plenty
21:19:00 <Lish> What's a fanatical church?
21:19:07 <Oriole> pentecostal etc
21:19:15 <Lish> What religion are you?
21:19:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> the Anglican church is full of old grey lesbian priests
21:19:30 <Lish> lol
21:19:39 <Oriole> Reformed; Calvinist
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21:21:11 <Lish> What religion are you DaylightSlavingTime
21:21:18 <DaylightSlavingTime> Calvinist
21:21:51 <Lish> Ok
21:21:57 <Kezzy> Lish what religion are you?
21:22:13 <Lish> Were you both raised that religion? Or did you just get into it later in life?
21:22:23 <Lish> Kezzy: I don't have a religion
21:22:24 <Oriole> to summarise: Jesus Christ never lets you down, but people do
21:22:31 <Oriole> I was raised Anglican
21:22:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> I was originally Anglican
21:22:48 <Oriole> but the Anglican Church has become a cruel joke
21:22:58 <Lish> Is Anglican much different from Calvinist?
21:23:03 <Kezzy> lolllllllllllllll
21:23:07 <Kezzy> fuck you are dumb
21:23:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> well there was a significant Calvinist basis to the original Anglicanism
21:23:30 <Kezzy> you might be as dumb as sharni
21:23:47 <Oriole> well in the 16th century, at the dawn of the English Reformation and for a couple of centuries after, the Anglican Church was predominantly Calvinist
21:23:48 <DaylightSlavingTime> but that got lost along the way somewhere
21:24:08 <Lish> I don't do religion and the only religion I know anything about is Catholicism
21:24:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> and you don't know anything about that either
21:24:26 <Oriole> Nicholas Ridley himself spent a lot of time on the Continent with Calvin, before Ridley was executed at Oxford under bloody Mary
21:24:34 <Lish> Yah I only know what I learnt when I was a kid
21:24:58 <Lish> I only know when you should kneel in church, and when you should do when you get communion lol
21:25:07 <Lish> My husband was raised Church of England
21:25:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> but that's not your fault, 99.9% of Catholics know absolutely nothing about Catholic doctrine
21:26:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish, and he was so terribly oppressed by the Church of England he became a rabid atheist?
21:26:14 <Oriole> the main thing you need to understand about Calvinism, Lish, is that God is sovereign in all things, that we are sinners who can't save ourselves, and that our only hope is faith in Jesus Christ. We are justified (made right with God) by faith in the only mediator. Justified by faith; not by good works.
21:26:36 <Lish> Haha I'm not too sure what went wrong actually DaylightSlavingTime. He somehow along the way turned into an angry atheist
21:26:59 <Lish> I don't think I'm disciplined enough to be religious
21:27:07 <Oriole> no one is
21:27:14 <Oriole> that's the point
21:27:26 <Oriole> anyone who thinks they have what it takes to be saved cannot be saved
21:27:39 <Oriole> that's the paradox. pride comes before a fall
21:28:10 <Lish> It's interesting
21:28:42 <Oriole> this is called 'monergism'
21:28:58 <Oriole> all God's work
21:29:31 <Oriole> as opposed to say the Catholic Church, where you gotta do many things to stay in God's grace
21:29:43 <Oriole> which is called 'synergism'
21:29:51 <Lish> Yeah, I don't know everything you have to do I just know some and is a lot
21:30:14 <Oriole> yes the price is too much to pay
21:30:31 <Oriole> it gets you on the hamster wheel for life
21:30:34 <DaylightSlavingTime> Catholicism is pseudo-Pelagian, in that they give lip service to faith, but it really comes down to works
21:30:43 <Oriole> the ultimate ponzi scheme from the pit of hell
21:30:57 <Oriole> agreed DaylightSlavingTime
21:32:45 <Lish> DaylightSlavingTime: what happened to that bogan guy that used to come here, and he was catholic.... I can't remember his nick now
21:32:51 <Oriole> the man (or woman) who puts his faith in his own effort betrays God. because the cost of our errors before a holy God is so great that the only one who can pay it is God himself. as he did when he came in the flesh
21:33:08 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish, I'm not sure who you mean
21:33:26 <Lish> Hmm
21:33:31 <Oriole> now give me all your money
21:33:39 <Lish> I'm trying to be more specific.
21:33:45 <Lish> But I can't quite remember
21:34:03 <Lish> He had a burger list, and he talked about mowing the law
21:34:14 <Oriole> a burger list?
21:35:11 <Lish> Yeah of all the burgers he ate, and he rated them
21:35:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> oh ajnin
21:35:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> he was on last night actually
21:35:27 <Lish> Yessssss
21:35:35 <Lish> Oh I haven't seen him for ages
21:35:46 <DaylightSlavingTime> yeah he got a new job which kept him busy
21:35:52 <Lish> Ah ok
21:35:53 <Kezzy> Lish at what age did you realise you were dumb?
21:35:58 <Kezzy> was it when you were born?
21:36:32 <Oriole> shut your mouth Kezzy
21:36:41 <Kezzy> <Lish> I don't do religion and the only religion I know anything about is Catholicism < LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
21:36:53 <Lish> Why is that LOL?
21:37:21 <Kezzy> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
21:37:43 <Kezzy> so what do you know?
21:37:55 <Lish> I said what I knew
21:38:00 <Lish> Scroll up, keep up
21:38:18 <Kezzy> i have
21:38:24 <Kezzy> thats why im loling
21:38:28 <Kezzy> and asking you
21:38:29 <Kezzy> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
21:38:34 <Kezzy> dont try be hard cunt Lish
21:38:40 <Kezzy> answer the question or fuck off
21:38:46 <Lish> lol
21:38:54 <Kezzy> i cant believe how bat shit insane you slurries on here are
21:39:00 <Kezzy> come on to even make up lies that you are married
21:39:04 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime why aren't you on steam
21:39:04 <Kezzy> its like below with his women
21:39:10 <Oriole> who is your god Kezzy ?
21:39:11 <Kezzy> all you chicks and losers are all fucked
21:39:13 <Warren1984> this is the second time I have asked you now
21:39:20 <Kezzy> my god is jen
21:39:33 <Ethanol> Catholic Mass: Stand, sit, stand, sit, stand, kneel, stand, kneel, communion, kneel, sit, stand
21:39:46 <Warren1984> where is me m8 xm1
21:40:24 <Oriole> your kind of party Ethanol ?
21:40:46 <Ethanol> not any more
21:40:55 <Oriole> tell us about your false god Kezzy
21:41:17 <lolli1> is that kezzy from syd channel
21:41:24 Nick: DaylightSlavingTime is now known as Tigger_
21:41:48 <Oriole> I knew that was Tigger_
21:41:53 <lolli1> oh a different one
21:41:59 <Oriole> can't keep up with the nicks
21:42:11 <Tigger_> don't Catholic masses now include a hippy with an acoustic guitar?
21:42:25 <Ethanol> yes
21:43:27 <Oriole> just like many pentecostal services now include candals and other sacerdotal junk
21:43:43 <Oriole> all is becoming one
21:44:01 <Oriole> so get your Alexapure and neutraceuticals now before the nukes take off
21:44:24 <Tigger_> Anglican service: you are very rich (even if you're on minimum wage or the dole), while refugees have nothing, why did you do that to them?
21:44:54 <Oriole> Anglican sermon: 'let's have a conversation'
21:45:12 <Kezzy> Lish is a moron
21:45:54 <Ethanol> `kick Kezzy Shhhhh. Adults are talking
21:45:54 Kick: Kezzy was kicked by ChanOP ([Ethanol] Shhhhh. Adults are talking)
21:46:01 <Oriole> Anglican idea of charity: get government subsidies and distribute part of the money to programs, and the other part to keeping the aged ministry in the comfort they are acquainted with
21:46:28 <Oriole> or accustomed to
21:46:43 <Tigger_> also it's always a car accident when churchmen start talking about economics
21:47:12 <Oriole> or ethics
21:47:50 <Oriole> if you do something wrong it is because of environmental factors
21:48:09 <Oriole> people are in jail because they have been oppressed and forced to commit crimes
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21:48:50 <Tigger_> well their economic understanding begins with their moral kneejerk reaction, much like any other breed of leftist, they show no interest in how economies work, just in perceiving virtue in them
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21:49:27 <Oriole> yeah they forget the whole 'he who doesn't work doesn't eat' part of the economy
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21:49:53 <lolli1> ra
21:49:55 <Kezzy> Ethanol pedo
21:49:57 <Oriole> or the part of the economy which says, 'maybe Aus has to keep a limit on immigration'
21:50:29 <Oriole> the worst Tigger_ , is when they turn Jesus into a political figure
21:50:29 <Tim-Sim> Who is Kezzy and why is she calling people pedophiles?
21:50:48 <Tigger_> I'm thinking of more things like "How sinful it is to make a profit selling food! Food that little children need to survive!"
21:51:34 <Tigger_> when they haven't noticed that this is the way it works in the west, and people have too much to eat
21:52:10 <Kezzy> lolli1 and Ethanol are both pedos
21:52:36 <Ethanol> I wish!
21:52:44 <Ethanol> pedos get all the action on IRC
21:52:48 <Lish> lol
21:53:15 <Tim-Sim> Kezzy please refrain from calling people pedophiles. Your cunt grants you no special privileges here. You are in Trump town.
21:54:07 <Tigger_> it's Jerome
21:54:32 <Kezzy> lolli1 is a pedo
21:54:46 <Tigger_> Jerome is always pedoing around irc
21:54:49 <Kezzy> suck shit to his pic being posting
21:55:19 <Oriole> Peters Original Icecream
21:55:48 <Tim-Sim> Tigger, are you saying that Kezzy is actually Jerome the crackhead?
21:56:20 <Oriole> not crackhead no
21:56:23 <Oriole> smackhead
21:57:07 <Tim-Sim> Added to ignore list
21:57:22 <Lish> lol
21:57:27 <Kezzy> Tim-Sim where is jen?
21:57:49 <Lish> She's drinking bourbon and Coke somewhere for sure
21:58:11 <Tigger_> it's easy to spot Jerome
21:58:12 <lolli1> aww come on thats not fair
21:58:12 <Kezzy> nope
21:58:15 <Kezzy> jen drinks scotch
21:58:58 <Lish> Oh johnnie walker then
21:59:37 <Tigger_> how to spot Jerome: 1. Jerome always goes on about pedos, 2. Jerome always carries on about Jen, 3. Jerome is the one wearing an "I'm With Her" Hillary hat and shirt
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22:00:06 <Lish> I thought he was supposed to leave irc
22:00:44 <Kezzy> not going because Tigger_ wouldnt agree to the deal
22:00:45 <Kezzy> so he gets nothing
22:00:46 <Kezzy> lollllllllllllllllllll
22:01:01 <Kezzy> this place is full of pedos
22:01:04 <Tigger_> you made a unilateral declaration, I didn't have to enter into any deal
22:01:05 <Kezzy> this chan even us
22:01:19 <Kezzy> there was a deal but u denied it
22:01:22 <Kezzy> so u get nothing
22:05:34 <Lish> Can't stay away hey
22:05:49 <Oriole> I wonder what sort of person would continually talk about pedos
22:05:59 <Kezzy> there is more work to be done Lish
22:06:19 <Oriole> aside from a sexual crimes unit detective
22:06:21 <Lish> What kind of work
22:07:37 <Tigger_> 'pedo' doesn't mean paedophilia in Jerome's usage, it is more an abstract term, quite ineffable, and is also a verb, "He was pedoing around the shops trying to pedo some groceries."
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22:07:50 <kuniva> guess whos back with a brand new wrap!
22:07:51 <Oriole> I see
22:08:02 <kuniva>
22:08:04 <President_Trump> pedoing at the shops despoing some groceries
22:08:05 <kuniva> green hydro im a fiend eyes low, the type to glow, fuck a ripe ho, turn the light on bro, put on a tight show, ignite my flow, invite a bloke, im takin flight ya know, i might break it down on a mic, ive taken these sounds up another height, playin rough on late nights, shakin this man made literature in my scope sights, heres a band-aid cus lyrics cut skin and penetrate deep
22:08:11 <President_Trump> loolllllllllllllllllllllllllll @ kuniva
22:08:14 <President_Trump> good gear bro?
22:08:48 <kuniva> average budda
22:09:18 <Kezzy> lol @ kuniva
22:09:21 <Kezzy> average gear
22:09:21 <Kezzy> lol
22:09:22 <Kezzy> on irc
22:09:47 <Tigger_> the new Archbishop of Canterbury has proven to be less of a fag than the last one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3952030/It-s-wrong-claim-ISIS-Islam-says-Archbishop-Canterbury.html
22:10:18 <kuniva> my middle finger wont go down, how am i suppost to wave?
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22:11:02 <Kezzy> joke stop stalking jen
22:11:17 * kuniva pushes Kezzy into a crevasse
22:11:20 <joke> no I think u are not me
22:11:23 <joke> Kezzy:
22:11:33 <Ethanol> I'm sick and tired of hearing about jen
22:11:48 <joke> no shit Ethanol
22:11:49 <Tim-Sim> Tigger, who is this kuniva person who is always talking about drugs?
22:12:12 <Oriole> He also called for a 'catholic' future for Europe, adding he did not mean Roman Catholic, but a continent which is 'broad, flexible, comprehensive, with a fundamental drive towards inclusion.'
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22:12:22 <kuniva> ive got steroids here
22:12:24 <kuniva> lol
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22:12:32 <Marttin> ethanol is jealous he wasnt shaked by the Monster at cheongs park
22:12:40 <Ethanol> heh
22:12:41 <kuniva> and some other assorted goods, but im not even gonna open the parcel
22:12:47 <kuniva> its gotta stay hidden
22:12:54 <Ethanol> I was waiting for either Marttin or President_Trump to pipe up
22:13:00 <Marttin> lol
22:13:17 <Tim-Sim> Kuniva are you trying to get you and your mate arrested?
22:13:38 <President_Trump> about?
22:13:47 <Kezzy> kuniva has nothing
22:13:49 <Kezzy> look at his bong
22:13:52 <Marttin> Ethanol> I'm sick and tired of hearing about jen
22:14:06 <kuniva> im hiding stuff for a heavy dude hes paying me to keep it hidden here cus theyre paranoid about cops busting down the door
22:14:37 <Tim-Sim> Kuniva so you go on irc and tell a bunch of strangers...
22:14:37 <Oriole> He said the world had not 'experienced religion as a contributing factor in global politics since the Wars of Religion in the 15th and 16th centuries ' <----um Nth Ireland; Israel; the Balkans???
22:14:55 <kuniva> keke
22:14:56 <kuniva> ^^^^
22:15:17 <Tim-Sim> LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS
22:15:35 <Tim-Sim> ignore kuniva
22:17:03 <Kezzy> kuniva LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
22:17:05 <Kezzy> in my ass
22:17:28 <Oriole> very opinionated on economics isn't he Tigger_ ?
22:18:16 <Tigger_> Ireland, Israel, and the Balkans are less wars of religion than the continued process of ethnic and national self-determination that has been proceeding for over a century now, religion is more of a marker
22:18:16 <President_Trump> kuniva how much is he paying you?
22:18:51 <kuniva> ?
22:18:54 Quit: Kezzy ([email protected]) Z-Lined
22:19:13 <President_Trump> <kuniva> im hiding stuff for a heavy dude hes paying me to keep it hidden here
22:19:26 <Warren1984> where is nej
22:19:37 <Oriole> fair point Tigger_
22:19:39 <Tigger_> actually will probably take yet another century for it to fully play out, such as Catalanian secession is one group of Catholics wanting to separate from another group of Catholics
22:19:49 <Marttin> ichwog? no idea
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22:23:09 <kuniva> Theres an AK47 sittin on my hip, so don't trip.
22:24:16 <President_Trump> <kuniva> im hiding stuff for a heavy dude hes paying me to keep it hidden here
22:24:21 <President_Trump> how much is he paying you?
22:25:51 <Tim-Sim> Watching a video on Netflix about the Nazi death squads... full on
22:26:50 <Warren1984> having boiled eggs on tiger bread... don't tell Tigger_
22:26:58 <Tigger_> I love tiger bread
22:27:11 <Warren1984> with boiled eggs ontopp
22:32:29 <Tim-Sim> Bolshevicks were killed a heap of Ukrainians, so they killed them, beat them to death with clubs while everybody stood around and watched. Women standing around with kids on their shoulders watching them being beaten to death in the town center. Doco has old black and white footage of it
22:33:13 <Tim-Sim> Bolshevicks = Russian Jews
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22:34:43 <Oriole> Tim-Sim is back on the booze
22:34:52 <Tim-Sim> No I am not
22:35:20 <Tim-Sim> I am on my phone, has auto correct, messes the words up
22:36:14 <Tim-Sim> Anymore of that talk Oriole and you will be on the ignore list with the rest of the insulting deplorables
22:36:30 <Oriole> come on Tim-Sim . what was your point anyway?
22:37:12 <Tim-Sim> The point is that the Jews deserved it
22:37:28 <Oriole> lovely
22:37:57 <Tim-Sim> They caused massive starvation to the Ukrainians
22:38:04 <Tigger_> the Soviets actually demolished a greater percentage of synagogues than churches though
22:38:52 <Tigger_> this could be explained by communist jews settling old scores with their former communities
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22:41:23 <Tim-Sim>
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22:42:27 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6n7KgtqcJw
22:42:31 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Alex Jones Reveals Obamacare's Secret Origins (Oct 2, 2013) Length: 16:10 - Category: Comedy - 42,815 views views - 911 likes (83.2%), 184 dislikes (16.8%)
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22:44:59 <Tigger_> Trump really did make Alex Jones great again
22:45:14 <Oriole> gave him something productive to do
22:45:31 <Tigger_> yes, gave him some focus
22:45:38 <Oriole> does that video qualify as fake news?
22:45:43 <President_Trump> LOL
22:45:53 <Tigger_> I assume everyone has seen the Alex Jones as the Joker?
22:45:56 <President_Trump> jones is da man
22:46:04 <Oriole> watching that next
22:46:42 <President_Trump> obama has been whinging non stop that the internet is taking over, and mainstream media is dead
22:46:47 <Tim-Sim> Jones is an alarmist, sensationalist, conspiracy theorist
22:47:21 <Oriole> which makes him more reliable that most of the media
22:47:32 <Tim-Sim> Click bate is just as bad if not worse than the mainstream media
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22:48:02 <Tim-Sim> He has a few good video then produces a heap of rubbish
22:48:08 <Oriole> yeah he does a lot of bait
22:48:20 <Oriole> and talk heaps of smack
22:48:33 <Oriole> but sometimes he comes up with some well polished gems
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22:50:02 <Tim-Sim> I think the problem is that he is trying to put info out everyday and the info just isn't there. He should wait until there is something of significance to tell the people
22:50:24 <Tigger_> the mainstream media shot itself in the foot, then put the other foot on a banana peel, and then stumbled from one rake on the lawn to the next. they entirely did it themselves
22:50:48 <Tim-Sim> Lol
22:50:49 <Oriole> yeah he recycles a lot of stuff and rhetoric every day. often the titles of his videos have virtually nothing to do with the content within
22:51:11 <President_Trump> hes gotta talk for 3 hours everyday, gotta recycle some of it
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22:51:30 <Tigger_> he should get more celebrity kooks on, Charlie Sheen must have a lot of free time lately
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22:51:47 <Tim-Sim> In between aids treatments
22:52:19 <Tigger_> and I had no idea that Billy Corgan wore a tinfoil hat
22:53:04 <Humpz> to keep away the vampires
22:53:16 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpS3g3BfZHc
22:53:18 <Tim-Sim> Is he a chemical trail man?
22:53:21 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Billy Corgan: Massive Awakening Is Occurring (Dec 26, 2013) Length: 26:48 - Category: People & Blogs - 252,649 views views - 2,309 likes (94.1%), 144 dislikes (5.9%)
22:53:44 <Tim-Sim> Tigger, who is humps?
22:53:56 <Tim-Sim> Humpz?
22:53:57 <Humpz> Im a shill
22:54:26 <lolli1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkRY_kA2Aaw
22:54:31 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Video: Alex Jones Flips Out, Is Physically Restrained (Jun 8, 2016) Length: 1:59 - Category: News & Politics - 169,688 views views - 4,127 likes (91.9%), 364 dislikes (8.1%)
22:54:32 <lolli1> funnt
22:54:35 <lolli1> y
22:56:16 <Tim-Sim> God that was pathetic
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22:56:31 <lolli1> I thought it was funny as
22:56:56 <lolli1> looks like alex might have been taking flakka
22:57:12 <President_Trump> lol
22:57:13 <President_Trump> that was great
22:58:13 <lolli1> one of a kind
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23:00:15 <Oriole> this Jones/Corgan interview is magnificent
23:01:00 <Tigger_> it would've been more convincing if he ripped his pants off too
23:01:16 <Tigger_> he has a few interviews with Billy Corgan
23:01:42 <Oriole> had no idea. only been watching jones for the last year or so
23:03:35 <Tim-Sim> He has been around for a loooong time
23:04:14 <Oriole> watched his Bohemian Grove expose late the other night, gave me a troubled night's sleep
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23:04:29 <Tim-Sim> That is old
23:05:10 <Tim-Sim> Bohemian Grove is just a big boys club
23:05:51 <couleurs> corgan was cool
23:05:55 <couleurs> then he sucked
23:05:59 <couleurs> now he's kinda ok
23:07:19 <Tigger_> depravity binds the group together in loyalty over the moral transgressions they've committed, they are now "us", against "them" who do not commit transgressions, it's the basis for hazing rituals, but taken to the very highest level
23:07:27 <President_Trump> jones is best when he's on the megaphone
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23:11:29 <Tim-Sim> Oriole, have you heard about the Bilderbeegers?
23:11:53 <Oriole> no...?
23:11:58 <Tim-Sim> Omg
23:12:21 <Tim-Sim> You have to learn about the Bilderbergers
23:12:41 <Oriole> oh the Bilderberg Group
23:12:46 <Tim-Sim> Yes
23:13:32 <Oriole> now watching Jones as Joker : )
23:14:02 <Oriole> Prankster in Chief
23:14:05 <Tigger_> cuckservative Trump hater David Frum is a Bilderberger
23:15:02 <Tim-Sim> Bbs
23:17:48 <Oriole> he is more Nicholson than Ledger
23:20:15 <President_Trump> http://imgur.com/gallery/601Q3ZS
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23:33:18 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbvzWh5r6PU
23:33:22 <BlackDevil> Youtube: John Kerry Is Looking very Strange (Sep 4, 2013) Length: 1:00 - Category: Comedy - 113,802 views views - 1,515 likes (89.8%), 173 dislikes (10.2%)
23:34:33 <Tigger_> http://imgur.com/gallery/DXdxf
23:35:26 <Oriole> gotta fill landfill with something
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23:36:25 <Tigger_> it's curious how a lot of these establishment types are simultaneously very boring and highly weird
23:36:31 <Tigger_> usually weird is interesting
23:38:08 <Oriole> it gets better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch9gQ9JOe3Y
23:38:13 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Alex Jones goes nuts on the BBC and host calls him an idiot & 'worst person ever interviewed' (Jun 9, 2013) Length: 5:07 - Category: News & Politics - 389,433 views views - 4,721 likes (91.9%), 418 dislikes (8.1%)
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23:40:50 <Oriole> 'you are the worst person I have ever interviewed'
23:42:48 <Warren1984> Tarryn's little Kitty
23:44:56 <Tim-Sim> Cool doco on Saudia Arabia on Netflix. How they hate Christians and persecute people
23:45:31 <Tim-Sim> Just had a owner little kid saying he wants to kill all Christian's
23:46:21 <Tim-Sim> Bloggers whipped in public
23:47:39 <Oriole> when is the US gonna bring 'regime change' to that country
23:48:10 <Tigger_> if you knew arabic and wanted to cause trouble, create a fake blog in someone's name and blaspheme in the most homosexual way possible
23:48:11 <xm1> i think Paul Watson had a video on how Saudi Arabia is the most vile nation in the world
23:48:21 <xm1> i was just thinking of that too
23:48:41 <Tim-Sim> Never, they are in ber with the Saudis. They have lots of oil and intelligence links
23:48:53 <Tim-Sim> And keep the war machine churning
23:49:04 <xm1> replace 50 shades characters with those from teh Koran
23:49:17 <Tigger_> any regime you change Saudi Arabia to would end up being much the same
23:50:44 <Tigger_> it's bizarre to read about the stuff the Salafi's get up to there, like demolishing ancient Islamic heritage, as it could lead to idolatory
23:51:15 <Tigger_> they even built a toilet block over the house of one of Mohammed's wives
23:51:19 <Tim-Sim> It will go like Egypt, ie. Muslim brotherhood, worse
23:52:01 <Tim-Sim> They need to drop a nuke on that big black box that they walk around
23:52:14 <Tim-Sim> While they are walking around it
23:53:47 <xm1> it would be funny if it turnred out that black rock was nothing more than fossilised dinosaur turd
23:53:47 <Tigger_> file under C:\StuffThatDidntHappen - http://the-pen.co/elders-talk-trump-tram/
23:54:23 <Tigger_> for a long time it was thought to be a meteorite, but apparently they don't think so now
23:57:12 <Oriole> the figment of her imagination's worry didn't come to fruition anyway - Trump won
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23:57:42 <Tigger_> no such conversation happened, the old lady doesn't exist, it's all the author's fevered imagination
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23:58:24 <xm1> Australia Post has a shop in the USA now
23:58:38 <xm1> now we can finally buy exclusive-to-USA goods
23:58:50 <Tigger_> how does that work?
23:58:52 <xm1> there were probably other ways before but i'd rather go through something larger scale
23:59:04 <Tigger_> oh a resending service?
23:59:11 <xm1> https://shopmate.auspost.com.au
23:59:15 <Tigger_> that's how I got my projector
23:59:23 <xm1> who did you go through?
23:59:54 <Tigger_> some lady who does it privately
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