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01:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> there needs to be really good timing for this, that halfway through the final debate between her and Trump, the FBI come on stage and handcuff her and lead her off to the paddywagon
02:00 <GreekSnake> haha
02:00 <GreekSnake> that would be awesome
04:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> lol, the Bernibro rage just doesnt stop:
04:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> My general tolerance turned to distaste, then a strong dislike. I lost all respect for her, if there was any to begin with. Now, I have a deep, raging hatred for her and can't stand to see her face. The thought of her as president and how many supporters she has makes me ashamed to be American.
04:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> My hatred for Clinton grows day by day...
04:00 <GreekSnake> so furious
04:00 <GreekSnake> why are they so surprised?
04:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I seriously get angry every time I watch her dance around a question without actually saying anything and then even angrier when people fucking applaud her and then stroke levels of rage when the reporter/moderator/paid piece of shit doesn't ask a follow up question.
04:00 <GreekSnake> no one outside Vermont knew who Sanders even was a year ago
05:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> they're surprised because in their group hugs they really thought Sanders was going to win
05:00 <GreekSnake> heh
05:00 <GreekSnake> so triggered
05:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> how could he not?  all their friends are Berniebros too, everyone they know
05:00 <GreekSnake> yes, all the special snowflake millennials
06:00 <President_Trump> CROOKED HILLARY SHE'S BEEN CROOKED FROM THE START
07:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> few of them have ever met a black in real life, so just assumed that blacks would be onboard for the same reasons they are
07:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I ain't a trump fan but if they're both the nominees, he'll beat her because of this. Me personally, there is no one I like besides Bernie so I won't vote. At the beginning of the campaign I considered her being my second preference because they said they'd run a clean campaign. But it hasn't happened.
08:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I am in the same boat as you and I am definitely voting in the general, no matter what happens. For Bernie and all true progressives first, but if it’s HRC, it’s just as important to turn out and VOTE AGAINST HER.
08:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Whether that means for Trump or third party is up to you but it’s important to show the DNC what they’ve squandered by rigging this primary.
09:00 <President_Trump> trump is doing his big foreign policy speech soon
09:00 <GreekSnake> I preferred France's entry that year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqpFUVAEhn8
09:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: France "Allez Ola Ole" - Eurovision Song Contest Final 2010 - BBC One (May 29, 2010) Length: 2:31 - Category: Entertainment - 8,432,144 views - 17,619 likes (92.7%), 1,384 dislikes (7.3%)
09:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> A few months ago, when Bernie said if he doesn't get the nomination to vote for the democratic nomination, I said no way buddy, I can't do that for you. I haven't voted based on party ever, and there was no way in hell I am ever voting for Clinton.
10:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I remember this one
11:00 <GreekSnake> I knew you'd love it
14:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRlLT3_JZhk
14:00 <GreekSnake> they had everything that year
14:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Iceland - Eurovision Song Contest 2010 Semi Final 1 - BBC Three (May 25, 2010) Length: 1:49 - Category: Entertainment - 501,541 views - 1,190 likes (93%), 90 dislikes (7%)
15:00 <GreekSnake> German mockneys, vibrant urban youths, Icelandic landwhales...
16:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I'm confused... With such a large lead in the primaries is she actively TRYING to lose the general election? Maybe we had it all wrong. Maybe Clinton is the double agent working to get Trump elected.
16:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> lol, awful, but then again Eurovision has always been the Special Olympics of music
18:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> this is why it's so sad that Terry Wogan died, he could have a lot of fun with bad acts
21:00 <Warren1984> GoodnightSweetPrince what is on your todo list for tomorrow?
22:00 <President_Trump> it's funny these guests on best coverage who come on and say with a straight face mounting their case for cruz to get the nomination over trump
22:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the Cruz momentum of course, getting 12% today
23:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Warren1984, I suppose I should get to work on this server I purchased, I haven't done a thing with it yet
25:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5pFmpV1Hx0
25:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Milo Yiannopoulos Shuts Down Feminist with Cancer at American University (Apr 27, 2016) Length: 3:20 - Category: Nonprofits & Activism - 4,411 views - 441 likes (99.5%), 2 dislikes (0.5%)
26:00 <Warren1984> why did you buy a server?
26:00 <Warren1984> could have got a gaming machine instead
26:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Warren1984, so it can store my 1080p MKV films and stream them to my projector and other devices around the house
28:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> her voice was too annoying to endure the full question
31:00 <GreekSnake> really?
31:00 <GreekSnake> I thought she sounded pretty cute
32:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Very little. At this point Hillary's endictment is more likely. We need to keep her from securing nom to retain leverage.
32:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Man I hate her so much. She is everything wrong with the US and its up to us to save the country.
32:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Fight on and donate.
33:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> these Bernie bros are so sexist
33:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> including the female ones
35:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the other big issue for Bernie supporters is that Hillary operatives spammed their facebook groups with kiddy porn, then lodged complaints with facebook to have them shut down because they featured kiddy porn
37:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Catholic news of the day:
37:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Report: Pope Ditched Two Refugees Once He Found Out They Were Christians
37:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> "They offered me my future on a plate, and then 24 hours later they took it away."
37:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/report-pope-ditched-two-refugees-once-he-found-out-they-were-christians
41:00 <President_Trump> when are we getting the rest of our syrian rapefugees?
43:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Germany is greedily keeping them all, won't share
46:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sYOM0sdQXg
46:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Milo Yiannopoulos denies Black Lives Matter protester special mic privileges (Apr 27, 2016) Length: 3:30 - Category: Nonprofits & Activism - 3,184 views - 396 likes (99.5%), 2 dislikes (0.5%)
46:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> lol
46:00 <GreekSnake> "Progressive politicians tell me I've got to live next to somebody who wants to throw me off a roof."
50:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I didn't understand what the chimp lives protester was carrying on about
50:00 <President_Trump> bill oreilly says that there is only one choice for trumps VP
50:00 <President_Trump> any guesses?
50:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Bernie?
50:00 <GreekSnake> lol
50:00 <President_Trump> no the woman spic govenor of new mexico
50:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> who is that?
50:00 <President_Trump> i forget her name
50:00 <GreekSnake> to get all the wetbacks on board?
51:00 <President_Trump> try to get some female/mud votes
52:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> actually that's what Bernie bros have been saying today, that a Trump/Bernie ticket is just what they should be doing now
52:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Bernie could bring far more votes than some spic woman nobody has ever heard of
52:00 <President_Trump> lol
52:00 <President_Trump> bernies not going to run with trump
53:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> no, it'll never happen, but the bernie bros are fantasising about it
54:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Trump hasn't really attacked Bernie though, a good decision to hold back, let Hillary take all the heat for Bernie's defeat
54:00 <President_Trump> thats coz he wanted her to damage hillary
54:00 <President_Trump> bernie has done as well as can be expected
54:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> https://i.sli.mg/MkLVdr.png
56:00 <President_Trump> cruz was again crapping on about 'the will of the people' just recently
57:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I haven't heard any statements from Cryin' Ted today actually
00:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the last thing I heard or saw quoted from both Kasich and Cryin' Ted was that epic fail strategy to split the vote between them
02:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I guess both are too ashamed to have to explain themselves after today
05:00 <President_Trump> kasich will have to drop into a diner and eat something soon
05:00 <President_Trump> so you will hear from him
05:00 <President_Trump> he will do 20 cafe speeches then trump will fly in and see 100 times more people than him in one rally
08:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Kasich could do an arena, if they wheeled the hotdog cart up to the podium
11:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Young Turks ready to commit suicide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4c-yc4eHg
11:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 2016 Will Be A Terrible Election, BUT There Is Hope (Apr 26, 2016) Length: 2:25 - Category: News & Politics - 32,521 views - 1,803 likes (85.6%), 304 dislikes (14.4%)
14:00 <President_Trump> hes suicidal
15:00 <President_Trump> that is how megyn kelly and all the cuckservatives feel about the election too
15:00 <circle> 18<GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sYOM0sdQXg
16:00 <circle> she does sound cute 
16:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Milo Yiannopoulos denies Black Lives Matter protester special mic privileges (Apr 27, 2016) Length: 3:30 - Category: Nonprofits & Activism - 5,744 views - 717 likes (99.6%), 3 dislikes (0.4%)
16:00 <circle> as much as someone with that accent can
16:00 <circle> i like americans but their accent
16:00 <circle> it's awful
18:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> there are a lot of different American accents
18:00 <President_Trump> the accents to the west coast tend to be better i find
19:00 <President_Trump> i hate that north east accent
19:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I once met a Mormon girl with a very cute accent
20:00 <President_Trump> the funny thing about trump is he has probably known for 20 years what election issues he would run on
22:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> he had to wait till the electorate were up to speed on them
24:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> lol, Young Turks now very keen on Hillary getting prosecuted:
24:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8BjXKykozg
24:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The ONLY Way Hillary Clinton Could Lose The Democratic Primary Election (Apr 26, 2016) Length: 6:22 - Category: News & Politics - 40,724 views - 2,170 likes (89.7%), 248 dislikes (10.3%)
25:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Bernie's biggest tactical error, by far
30:00 <President_Trump> i dont mind hillary as the choice if a democrat has to get in
30:00 <President_Trump> much better than obama
31:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the pro-white Hillary of 2008, fine, but not the black lives matter Hillary of 2016
33:00 <President_Trump> she wont do much for them 
33:00 <President_Trump> just election gibberish
34:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> perhaps that KKK guy has inside info then
39:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/garen.baghomian/videos/10206162410920221/
39:00 <GreekSnake> LOL
39:00 <GreekSnake> "Blackenian"
42:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I can only speculate what that is about
45:00 <President_Trump> GreekSnake will like this 
45:00 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkFxkTYhfA
45:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: "DONALD TRUMP:A BAD LIP READING" **2016 ** Sophisticated Trump (Dec 19, 2015) Length: 0:52 - Category: Entertainment - 198,405 views - 445 likes (77.3%), 131 dislikes (22.7%)
48:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> interesting it's the accent and not the content that matters most
49:00 <GreekSnake> heh
49:00 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8RqLN3Qao
49:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Speaks on Foreign Policy in Washington, DC (4-27-16) (Date not found) Length: 0:00 - Category: News & Politics - /span views - 216 likes (98.6%), 3 dislikes (1.4%)
49:00 <GreekSnake> he should get Milo to dub his interviews
52:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> like Scott Baio said, he likes Trump because he speaks like him
03:00 <cherri_pie> wassup pd
03:00 <President_Trump> the trump channel on snoonet is HIGH ENERGY, there are more people in the bernie channel but it is completely dead
04:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I was on the trump channel earlier today, everyone was celebrating
06:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the Bernie reddit page still has people talking about the need for more phone banking, whatever that is
06:00 <President_Trump> LOL
06:00 <President_Trump> phone banking?
06:00 <President_Trump> sounds like something from the early 2000's
06:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> from what I gather it's spamming people by phone, ringing people at random telling them how good Bernie is
07:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> if it actually worked then wouldn't Mormons and Jehovas Witnesses be doing it?
08:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGZvW4wC81Y
08:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Phone Banking for Bernie Sanders (Jan 30, 2016) Length: 6:54 - Category: Film & Animation - 7,901 views - 280 likes (93.3%), 20 dislikes (6.7%)
09:00 <President_Trump> oh
09:00 <President_Trump> trump was calling for volunteers to do that
10:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> on 4chan there are images of Bernie bros ringing up people and saying "Why can't you niggers realise that Bernie is what's best for you?"
11:00 <President_Trump> <+BeyondSpaceDust> l0de: THIS IS THE FACE OF TOLERANCE http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/45/61/57/9903051/7/920x920.jpg
11:00 <President_Trump> i didnt notice at first but he is pepper spraying him
12:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Bernie is the only candidate that has done this phone banking in a big way, Hillary wouldn't have enough real world supporters
12:00 <President_Trump> hillary couldnt even get anyone to her book signings
14:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> come to think of it I'd never even heard of it until I started pedoing around on the Bernie reddit group
15:00 <President_Trump> you were pedoing the bernie group hard
15:00 <Guest88049> hi
15:00 <Guest88049> sup
17:00 <President_Trump> SoupNazi is here to celebrate trump's big wins
18:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> heh
18:00 <President_Trump> this foreign policy speech trump is going to talk about a 'new approach to russia'
20:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> hopefully it is uniting white countries against the muds
21:00 <President_Trump> it will be talking about friends, new approach to russia and isis
21:00 <President_Trump> they are pumping it up on best coverage
21:00 <President_Trump> and iran deal
22:00 <Guest88049> https://soundcloud.com/luckysum/red20s
22:00 <Guest88049> lols
22:00 <Guest88049> erlich
22:00 <President_Trump> they made the point they were laughing at him at the start of the jew speech and by the end they were standing applauding
24:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> every news article about Kasich has a photo of him pigging down his lunch
24:00 <Guest88049> President_Trump ya fuck red 20s
24:00 <Guest88049> https://soundcloud.com/luckysum/red20s
24:00 <Guest88049> its vocal track
27:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Republican front-runner Donald Trump has some free advice for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders: Make an independent bid for president.
27:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> "Bernie Sanders has been treated terribly by the Democrats -- both with delegates & otherwise. He should show them, and run as an independent," Trump tweeted Tuesday.
28:00 <President_Trump> lol
28:00 <President_Trump> he cant even beat hillary head to head though
28:00 <President_Trump> before superdelegates
29:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the superdelegate system probably has a chilling effect too though, people feel that it's rigged and then don't bother anymore
31:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> if the system was fair, then Bernie would probably get more people onboard who weren't put off by the stacked numbers
32:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the Bernie bros we have now are really people too hopeful and innumerate to realise before today that there was never any chance
36:00 <Guest88049> GoodnightSweetPrince when it works https://youtu.be/1Tc5iGPC5Nk
36:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: FUCK RED 20'S dance music 2016 (Apr 27, 2016) Length: 2:12 - Category: Music - 1 view views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
40:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I'll play it tomorrow
40:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> but now I'll get to sleep
40:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> night all
55:00 <Guest88049> being spyed on sucks
25:00 <Arbition> wha? Being spied on, what do you mean?
38:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> a common belief held by those on the schizophrenia spectrum
41:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, do you ever feel that you are being spied upon?
42:00 <Warren1984> occasionally
42:00 <Warren1984> why?
44:00 <Warren1984> my CPU is 24 degrees
45:00 <Warren1984> I wonder what it would be like in the cold winter
46:00 <Tigger_> I was just wondering
47:00 <Tigger_> there's no way my CPU cooler could get to 24 degrees
49:00 <Tigger_> when you feel spied on, who is spying on you?
49:00 <Warren1984> the coldest it usually gets in Perth is 2 degrees
50:00 <Warren1984> be interesting to find out how cool it will be then
50:00 <Arbition> I don't think you want to let your CPU get that cold
50:00 <Tigger_> some people have such hot computers that they don't need a heater in winter
51:00 <Arbition> below 20C I would consider hazardous to the normal operation of the silicon
51:00 <Warren1984> the cooler the CPU the better
51:00 <Arbition> Up to a point
51:00 <Arbition> until the junctions don't work because there isn't enough energy around to trigger them
51:00 <Warren1984> the fastest computers in the world are frozen
52:00 <Tigger_> could it ever actually be below 20 during normal operation though?
52:00 <Warren1984> because they literally get way too hot
52:00 <Arbition> No, those are in extremely low ambients because the temperature gradient is so high
52:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ the chemical is probably anti-freeze
52:00 <Arbition> If you're running your cores at full tilt, and your ambient is -10C, that's fine if it gets the silicon down to 40C
52:00 <Arbition> what you don't want is your silicon getting to 5C, that's too low
53:00 <Arbition> In antarctica they have to keep the ambient air warm
53:00 <Warren1984> I doubt it gets that cold
53:00 <Arbition> possibly
53:00 <Arbition> but do be aware
53:00 <Warren1984> the chemical would likely be anti-freeze
53:00 <Arbition> batteries also don't like getting very cold
54:00 <Arbition> Oh is this a liquid cooler?
54:00 <Arbition> I'm not talking about the cooling fluid though
54:00 <Arbition> I'm talking about the silicon die of the CPU itself
54:00 <Warren1984> when Putin plays games in Russia when it's -20 his computer runs well
54:00 <Tigger_> my CPU temp averages about 40
54:00 <Arbition> if his computer is running full tilt, sure
54:00 <Arbition> but if your computer is idle, you don't want to let everything get that cold
55:00 <Arbition> its for similar reasons batteries often have minimum operating temperatures
55:00 <Warren1984> I think it would heat up
55:00 <Arbition> at idle? I wouldn't be too sure
55:00 <Warren1984> otherwise a water cooler would be useless
56:00 <Arbition> anyway, a case ambient of around 15C is probably best case scenario
56:00 <Tigger_> perhaps I should get a low profile Noctua CPU fan
56:00 <Arbition> but lower is getting worryingly cold
56:00 <Arbition> for computers that idle
56:00 <Warren1984> If they sold a product like a water cooler and it was too cold for the PC in winter, then what would be the point of selling them?
57:00 <Arbition> The point is you dial back the cooling
57:00 <Arbition> turn down the fans
57:00 <Arbition> so when you do have it running at heavy loads, you have a lot of thermal headroom
57:00 <Warren1984> it adjusts the fan speed
58:00 <Arbition> that's good
58:00 <Arbition> But I'm just pointing out you saying, the colder the better is not true
58:00 <Warren1984> the chemical would heat up as well
58:00 <Arbition> there is a mimimum operating temperature as well as a maximum
59:00 <Warren1984> what else gets hot in the computer
59:00 <Warren1984> northbridge
00:00 <Arbition> not particularly
00:00 <Arbition> also I think you mean southbridge
00:00 <Arbition> Intel no longe rhas a north bridge
00:00 <Arbition> so they call the southbridge the Platform Controller Hub
01:00 <Warren1984> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/218869-28-cold
01:00 <Warren1984> CPUs can get "too cold" but the temperatures are impossible to reach indoors and on air or water cooling. I think that AMD's Athlon 64s start to get the "cold bug" at -40 C or so as the material properties of the silicon-on-insulator substrate change enough to hinder normal transistor operation. Intel CPUs just use bulk silicon as their substrate and I've seen people use liquid nitrogen 
01:00 <Warren1984> to cool them to -100 C or so.
02:00 <Arbition> to reach indoors, I guess that's fair enough. You wouldn't let your house get to -10C
02:00 <Arbition> because you wouldn't operate too well in those conditions either
03:00 <Warren1984> what if you wanted to have a big LAN party in Antartica
03:00 <Arbition> The wind in antarctica is like a saw
03:00 <Arbition> it'd still be indoors at some point
04:00 <Arbition> That'd be awesome though
04:00 <Arbition> We're in fuckin' antarctica
04:00 <Arbition> playing vidya
05:00 <Warren1984> clip clop took a piss in antartica and it turned to ice before even hitting the floor
05:00 <Tigger_> an outdoor lan party in Antarctica, during winter
06:00 <Arbition> The darkest night
06:00 <Warren1984> Antartica doesn't even get to -100
06:00 <Arbition> it has hit -80C though
06:00 <Warren1984> yeah
06:00 <Warren1984> In the Siberian desert in gets to -40C
06:00 <Arbition> Apparently at the south pole, they have a challenge where they will run out naked during the deep winter
07:00 <Arbition> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_Club
07:00 <Warren1984> when Putin plays video games against Obama, he plays in the Siberian desert because he can overclock it
08:00 <Arbition> Nah, real SCII players use overpowered graphics cards at low graphics settings
08:00 <Arbition> so to completely eliminate the possibility of lag due to the local machine
09:00 <Warren1984> mine is all Ultra
09:00 <Arbition> I figured as much
09:00 <Tigger_> the single biggest surprise about Mars for me is that the temperature is often over 20 degrees during the day
09:00 <Warren1984> My graphics card has 3 fans
10:00 <Warren1984> The Intel Core i7-4765T and i7-920 CPUs both have maximum operating temperatures of 66 and 68 degrees Celsius, respectively (150 and 154 Fahrenheit). Both processors operate between 36 and 38 degrees Celsius (97 and 100 Fahrenheit) at idle and 56 and 58 degrees Celsius (132 and 136 Fahrenheit) working at full load.
11:00 <Arbition> What, TJunction temperatures?
11:00 <Warren1984> don't understand Arbition
11:00 <Arbition> sorry, tCase
11:00 <Arbition> http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI
11:00 <Arbition> TCASE 	67.9°C
13:00 <Arbition> its actually misleading, because afaik the onboard temperature sensor is on the silicon itself, which is going to be a higher temperature than the tCase temp, simply because at the IHS (the mouseover states tcase is max temp at the Integrated Heat Spreader) is already going to be down the chain in the thermal gradient
13:00 <Arbition> The problem is, you don't know by how much
13:00 <Arbition> so to be safe, I guess that is the right value
15:00 <Arbition> fwiw some people delid the processor and apply their heatsink directly to the silicon, to bypass the IHS
15:00 <Arbition> the tJunction temperature determines the maximum operating temperature for the silicon itself, but as per that page, it is unstated
17:00 <Arbition> I also noticed that the CPU in my laptop has no IHS
17:00 <Arbition> so when I redid the thermal paste on that, I was applying the heatsink directly to the silicon
18:00 <Arbition> not suprising I guess, laptops aren't really user servicable, and the tiny area means you can't afford to have an IHS reduce the heat removal effectiveness
18:00 <Warren1984> all I know is the water cooler(whatever substance it is) like the stock fan goes slower when cold and faster when hot
18:00 <Warren1984> the water cooler has a radiator like a car
18:00 <Arbition> You can probably tune that in your motherboard GUI
18:00 <Arbition> I do
19:00 <Arbition> yes, an air to water heat exhanger
19:00 <Warren1984> what do you mean by "tune that in your motherboard GUI?"
19:00 <Arbition> change the fan parameters for your CPU
19:00 <Arbition> That is controlled by the motherboard
20:00 <Arbition> for example, I did for a short while have it so the CPU fan wasn't running at all below 40C
20:00 <Arbition> I stopped that because it caused hunting
21:00 <Arbition> where it would slowly saturate with heat and then the fan would start, cool it, and the fan would stop
21:00 <Arbition> that's not great for the fans
21:00 <Arbition> being a mechanical system, starting and stopping is usually worse than a steady state
21:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j80dQIxkdc
21:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Air Coolers vs Liquid Coolers - What You Need to Know (Apr 17, 2015) Length: 11:03 - Category: Science & Technology - 866,814 views - 12,628 likes (96.1%), 506 dislikes (3.9%)
22:00 <Warren1984> ahh so it's not called a water cooler, it's called a liquid cooler
22:00 <Arbition> You've got an All in One liquid cooler I take it?
22:00 <Arbition> Yes, they sometimes use an oil instead of water
22:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ since I am both jobless and friendless, what should I do? which would you choose jobless or friendless and why?
23:00 <Tigger_> the most immediate cooling solution I could do is to clean the dust from my machine
23:00 <Arbition> Pick friendless, you do actually meet people on the job, and you will get an income, it will also increase your social standing
23:00 <Arbition> You've got no friends to betray at the moment anywya
24:00 <Warren1984> it uses propylene glycol
24:00 <Tigger_> most people's friends do seem to be whomever they are currently working with
24:00 <Arbition> yep, that's an oil
24:00 <Warren1984> the fan speeds range from 800 - 2,200 RPM
24:00 <Arbition> glycol is used in car radiators combined with water
25:00 <Arbition> though I usually know polyprop to be solid rather than liquid so I'm not 100% what is going on there
25:00 <Tigger_> I wonder what low profile all in one liquid coolers there are
25:00 <Arbition> oh you said propylene
25:00 <Arbition> yeah that's probably liquid
26:00 <Arbition> poly meaning multiple implies a chain
26:00 <Arbition> which is how you make pastics
28:00 <Warren1984> Arbition do you own a gaming RIG?
29:00 <Warren1984> I am finding it difficult to find friends who want to play computer games with me
29:00 <Arbition> Not really, I have two separate computers, one for light gaming, the other has no discrete graphics but my best processor and heatsink 
30:00 <Warren1984> I have a laptop and gaming computer
30:00 <Arbition> I've been playing mostly minecraft lately, which isn't graphically demanding anyway lol
30:00 <Arbition> Oh I have a laptop too lol
30:00 <Warren1984> the laptop has my SOPs and MS Outlook
31:00 <Arbition> What do you use to backup your SOP documents?
31:00 <Warren1984> I have an external HDD
31:00 <Warren1984> but it's not working
31:00 <Warren1984> I dropped it
32:00 <Warren1984> it was working for a while
32:00 <Tigger_> MS Office has a cloud service now, Warren1984 could back up his SOPs there
32:00 <Warren1984> it's an internal drive, with a case to make it external
32:00 <Warren1984> I think the case is broken
32:00 <Warren1984> I should put it in this computer
34:00 <Arbition> There are heaps of cloud backup services
34:00 <Arbition> you could encrypt prior to upload if you're worried about people snooping on them
35:00 <Arbition> My always on server has a 3 way raid 1
35:00 <Arbition> Used every sata port I had access to on the laptop and hung a disk of each end, using a series of somewhat dodgy cables
36:00 <Tigger_> your server is a laptop?
36:00 <Arbition> The screen stopped working on it, so I found it a duty to do
37:00 <Arbition> If I hadn't broken teh screen on it, I'd probably still be using it, it hadn't really expired in that sense
37:00 <Arbition> I removed a lot of the casing, and leave it sitting on a fan pad
37:00 <Arbition> it seems to keep the thermals reasonably under control
38:00 <Arbition> also yes I did try replacing the screen
38:00 <Tigger_> that sounds like a remarkably convoluted solution
38:00 <Arbition> and the screen cable
38:00 <Arbition> Laptops tend to be lower power than desktops anyway
38:00 <Arbition> so well suited to an always on system I felt
39:00 <Arbition> also already having it meant I didn't need to purchase much
40:00 <Tigger_> true
41:00 <Tigger_> for years I collected spare computer parts, until I found I was able to build a working desktop machine entirely from what I had in my parts box
42:00 <Arbition> I made a media PC and my light duty gaming PC because of that lol
42:00 <Arbition> actually no I lie
42:00 <Arbition> the light duty gaming was out of a CPU and motherboard I bought because it seemed like good value
43:00 <Arbition> a couple of weeks later, I decided what I was going to make out of it
44:00 <Arbition> I keep fighting the temptation to buy raspberry pi's lol
44:00 <Arbition> I actually have two beaglebone blacks which are unused
44:00 <Tigger_> what would you do with a Pi?
45:00 <Arbition> That's just it, I don't have anything particularly in mind for it
45:00 <Warren1984> <@Tigger_> MS Office has a cloud service now, Warren1984 could back up his SOPs there <- the cloud might rain, leaking information
45:00 <Warren1984> it's best to get 2 thumdrives
45:00 <Warren1984> and make 2 backups
45:00 <Arbition> <Arbition> you could encrypt prior to upload if you're worried about people snooping on them
46:00 <Tigger_> a Pi would be good for a media PC with a Mame emulator included
46:00 <Arbition> the current generation is getting very powerful
46:00 <Arbition> needing a thermal solution is a bit crappy though
46:00 <Warren1984> Arbition Tigger_ wastes money on a server, projector and alienware alpha
46:00 <Warren1984> when he could have got a gaming computer
46:00 <Arbition> and you waste it on a gaming rig
47:00 <Tigger_> I don't consider my projector a waste of money at all
47:00 <Warren1984> that is true Arbition
47:00 <Arbition> people have different priorities I guess
47:00 <Warren1984> I would just use my PC monitor to watch blu-ray rips
47:00 <Tigger_> films actually look like film on a projector, the screen is reflected light rather than being its own light source, which gives it a much more cinema like quality
48:00 <Warren1984> different values Arbition
48:00 <Arbition> sure
48:00 <Warren1984> I haven't being overseas for 14 years
48:00 <Arbition> priorities are informed by systems of valuation
48:00 <Warren1984> and don't really have any desire to do so anyway
53:00 <Warren1984> Clarifying the vision of your life 
53:00 <Warren1984> Every good financial plan begins with a vision of an ideal lifestyle. A vision is a blueprint of a lifestyle that reflects an individual's unique values and interests. Everyone needs money for shelter, food, transportation and clothing. But beyond the necessities for survival, there is also an infinite array of possible items on which the disposable portion of one’s income could be 
53:00 <Warren1984> spent. For instance, some folks value beauty in their home so they may spend more on decorating and home remodeling than someone who values adventure and travel. Some people may value education more than a new car, while for others it could be the opposite―a person may absolutely need to feel safe and secure and only drive newer cars. Some people may value services like personal 
53:00 <Warren1984> assistants, organizers, coaches and therapists more than having the newest and most advanced television or palm pilot.
53:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, build a house with a room each dedicated to a particular task
57:00 <Arbition> From a standard house, that just essentially means having a seperate office really
58:00 <Arbition> because most rooms already have a dedicated use
58:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ in my Mum's house I already have a system
58:00 <Warren1984> each room is a category
59:00 <Tigger_> have a cinema room, a gaming room, an irc room, etc.
59:00 <Warren1984> and for each room there is a list of specific things to do, which are broken down into either daily, weekly, fortnightly, monthly and yearly tasks
00:00 <Arbition> I just had to perform a snapshot rollback :/
01:00 <Tigger_> was the OS compromised?
01:00 <Arbition> glad I got into a habit of doing them prior to updates
01:00 <Arbition> no, update borked the system
01:00 <Arbition> That's what happens on the bleeding edge of linux
01:00 <Tigger_> ah
02:00 <Arbition> btrfs is wonderful for that
02:00 <Arbition> can create seperate subvolumes for user data and system data
02:00 <Arbition> and then snapshot them
02:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you are a person of vision and action, this would require you to be realistic wouldn't it?
02:00 <Arbition> so my user data wasn't rolled back
02:00 <Arbition> and you don't need to partition them in such a way that space from one is not available in the other
04:00 <Tigger_> why do you use bleeding edge Linux releases and not stable?
04:00 <Warren1984> for example if you take what looks like a useless, broken-down shell of a building and turn it into a beautiful home or office or hospital... is this realistic?
04:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, realistic about what?
04:00 <Arbition> It is more intersting, and with the virtual machine system I use still being in active development, I get the latest features
04:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, many people do that, so I guess it is realistic
05:00 <Arbition> it also trains me for setting up servers in a recoverable fashion
05:00 <Warren1984> yeah but you need a team to accomplish that
05:00 <Warren1984> and what are you going to give them in return
05:00 <Tigger_> there are people who have built houses entirely by themselves
06:00 <Arbition> I wonder how councils react to that...
06:00 <Warren1984> It would take too long Tigger_
06:00 <Arbition> I did hear about a guy who was on Radio National who built his own with a friend and his family
06:00 <Warren1984> and what about other things such as work, leisure time, family time etc
06:00 <Arbition> Then built another one
07:00 <Tigger_> labour is probably at least 50% of the cost of building a house
07:00 <Arbition> well really, labour is 100% of everything, because you don't really pay nature for anything
07:00 <Arbition> But if you mean immediate assembly labour on the house, I might have pegged it for more
08:00 <Tigger_> well I assume someone isn't going to be so independent that they're going to build a glass smelter just to make their own windows
09:00 <Arbition> that'd be pretty cool though
09:00 <Arbition> I want to build a house, maybe not on my own, but I want high control on its design. Double Glazed windows are a must
09:00 <Arbition> Sick of developers skimping on shit
10:00 <Tigger_> is double glazing good for summer too?
10:00 <Arbition> absolutely
10:00 <Arbition> It is insulation, nuff said
11:00 <Tigger_> the only thing I know about double glazing is from Kafka's novel "The Trial" (of all things), where I think a lawyer comments on the double glazing to keep the house warm in winter
11:00 <Arbition> though my understanding is that in Cairns at least, they tend to work a lot more on airflow, than insulation
11:00 <Arbition> so those are competing objectives
12:00 <Arbition> and you would still need to run some airconditioning, but with good insulation, thats less aircon
12:00 <Tigger_> this channel used to have an op from Adelaide who built his own house, with rammed earth
13:00 <Arbition> I saw a house on Grand Designed where they pretty much just dug out the side of a hill
13:00 <Arbition> *Designs
13:00 <Tigger_> he said the low humidity in Adelaide made rammed earth suitable
13:00 <Arbition> ah yeah, on grand designs, they needed a very strong waterproof layer between the earth and the house
13:00 <Tigger_> how did they achieve that?
14:00 <Arbition> using a combination of plastic and tar I think
14:00 <Arbition> some kind of think stone board as well I guess
14:00 <Arbition> *thin
16:00 <Arbition> I have massively crazy ideas for a house
16:00 <Arbition> I think I would have a big workshop where work on compressors/condensors and water management stuff
16:00 <Arbition> make my own moisture condensers
17:00 <Arbition> and have a big big water tank
17:00 <Tigger_> what sort of house would it be?
17:00 <Arbition> idk yet
17:00 <Arbition> but it would have to be well rural
17:00 <Tigger_> how many rooms?
17:00 <Arbition> because I would use a lot of land
17:00 <Arbition> I don't know about counts of rooms, I have a notion about what sort of rooms though
17:00 <Arbition> I would totally have a combined map room library
18:00 <Tigger_> a map room in the age of google earth, that's rather defiantly anachronistic
18:00 <Arbition> The water stuff would be because I would have a large waterbath bathroom, Japanese style
18:00 <Arbition> which would need a lot of water
19:00 <Arbition> so I would also need a lot of power
19:00 <Arbition> to run the water condensers
19:00 <Arbition> So large battery bank and so many solar panels
20:00 <Arbition> Might run the solar panels on a pond to try and keep them cool
20:00 <Tigger_> why a pond?
20:00 <Arbition> can you see why I would want all the land now lol
21:00 <Arbition> ah there is a solar facility in Jamestown, it prevents evaporation, and controls the solar panel temperatures
21:00 <Arbition> solar panels are semiconductors, so they don't like getting to high temps (say, 80) just like silicion chips don't
21:00 <Tigger_> I didn't realise solar panel temperature had to be managed
21:00 <Arbition> well, if you want them to last longer anyway
22:00 <Tigger_> what temps do typical roof solar panels reach?
22:00 <Arbition> I don't know, but I do know solar hot water heating can have water up to 90C
22:00 <Arbition> but that's a different principle
22:00 <Tigger_> yes
23:00 <Arbition> None the less, solar panels aren't reflective
23:00 <Arbition> so I imagine they could get up to 80C on high ambient temp days
23:00 <Tigger_> do people still get solar hot water systems installed?  I never see them on new houses
23:00 <Arbition> sometimes
23:00 <Arbition> I'd get a gas boosted solar hot water system
24:00 <Arbition> they talked about it in Silicion chip magazine as the most energy efficient
24:00 <Arbition> I would have to manage gas then though
24:00 <Arbition> so... maybe not
25:00 <Tigger_> if I was to build a house, my two priorities would be the cinema room design and a large library room (4000 books)
25:00 <Arbition> I'd probably also have a soil lab
25:00 <Tigger_> why a soil lab?
26:00 <Arbition> because fuck our soil is so bad
26:00 <Arbition> and I'd want to grow stuff
26:00 <Arbition> I mean food not MJ
26:00 <Tigger_> ah
27:00 <Tigger_> I would like some fruit trees, and a vegetable garden, though I know nothing of these things
29:00 <Arbition> I mean, maybe the soil is better in the tropics, but yeah its pretty bad down here
30:00 <Tigger_> you could create your own soil by composting food scraps
30:00 <Arbition> soil quality tends to be well correlated to long term rainfall
30:00 <Arbition>  but there are exceptions
30:00 <Arbition> where key minerals are missing
31:00 <Arbition> such as a strip between adelaide and melbourne where the soil was missing copper, so the soil never established despite relatively generous long term rainfall
31:00 <Arbition> Tigger_: There is that, but also things like beans for nitrogen fixing
31:00 <Arbition> I wouldn't have much choice for phosphorous though, I'd need a source of that
32:00 <Tigger_> how is that usually introduced to soil?
33:00 <Arbition> it tends to be recycled by animal waste products in the wild, but on commercial farms, fertilizer
34:00 <Tigger_> I'm reminded of this extinction theory that low volcanic activity lead to a depletion of trace elements in nature needed for things like plant growth and animal digestive systems
34:00 <Arbition> Phosphorous does tend to be available from oil, but I have heard of mining of bird migration sites being mined for their high phosphorous content (ie droppings over a very long itme)
35:00 <Arbition> phosphorous isn't particularly trace though...
35:00 <Arbition> its a relatively major mineral requirement
35:00 <Tigger_> yes
35:00 <Arbition> it certainly sounds plausible
35:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how can I be more attentive
36:00 <Arbition> and I remember when I was in the phillipenes, they would mine the lahar from volcanos because it was good for cropping
36:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, people tend to be attentive towards things they're interested in
36:00 <Arbition> also building materials I think
36:00 <Warren1984> I need to be more realistic, attentive and proactive
36:00 <Warren1984> Arbition can you offer any advice
36:00 <Warren1984> true Tigger_
37:00 <Warren1984> but most people are interested in multiple things and can concentrate on 1 thing giving their full attention to that 1 thing
40:00 <Warren1984> the problem with being inattentive is you have memory difficulties
43:00 <Tigger_> the main thing that interests you is MBTI theories, so you should get a job in that field
43:00 <Warren1984> If there is a job in that field
44:00 <Tigger_> you could create the job
45:00 <Tigger_> such as since MBTI is mainly used in the corporate sphere, you could conduct MBTI motivational corporate training courses
11:00 <erlich> good ep of SV
11:00 <erlich> i liked how the 5th guy went, "what? what was that?" etc when they talked how 1 in 5 could be sacked etc
11:00 <erlich> that new CEO is so cunning
12:00 <erlich> the rigby acronym was pretty funny too, just like how coders love them
12:00 <Tigger_> I hate acronyms more than anything in the world
13:00 <erlich> they are very useful for memorisation
13:00 <erlich> like i use them to remember things like paragrapgs of textg
13:00 <erlich> or Pi to over 100dp
14:00 <erlich> how many eps are there perseason for SV again
14:00 <Tigger_> 10
26:00 <Arbition> Warren1984: Not really, I have struggles with being attentive too
26:00 <Arbition> well concentration anyway
26:00 <Arbition> I tend to be pretty good at listening to a person, but beyond that, yeah...
26:00 <Warren1984> being inattentive and disorganize/unstructured
27:00 <Warren1984> disorganized
28:00 <Warren1984> I can focus on what I am interested in
28:00 <Warren1984> for example starcraft II
28:00 <Warren1984> I can pause the game and write down problems I experience
28:00 <Warren1984> then find a solution
29:00 <Warren1984> and make lists to get the maximum actions per minute
31:00 <Warren1984> Arbition structure helps inattentiveness
33:00 <Warren1984> if you are trying to listen to a lecture, you can write down notes in a 400 page binder book(too keep all notes together), you could also use a digital voice recorder or even a digital camera(if you are pulling something apart i.e. a lawn mower)
33:00 <Arbition> So have you been able to apply this successfully?
33:00 <Warren1984> yes
33:00 <Warren1984> but it doesn't help with assignments
34:00 <Warren1984> and if you don't have good hand-eye coordination it doesn't help with practical subjects or the practical part of the qualification
34:00 <Warren1984> you need to have a routine
34:00 <Warren1984> i.e. studying notes after class ASAP, then the next day etc
36:00 <Arbition> so have you done that then
36:00 <Warren1984> yes
37:00 <Warren1984> that is how I passed 7 out of the 10 modules in electronics
37:00 <Arbition> So its working then
37:00 <Warren1984> the rest is practical and OHS
37:00 <Warren1984> sure is working
37:00 <Arbition> Occupational Health and Safety?
37:00 <Warren1984> yeah
37:00 <Warren1984> it's very boring
38:00 <Arbition> I think everyone agrees with you there
39:00 <Arbition> Also, I guess I was wrong about the low end of the CPU temperatures.
39:00 <Arbition> its lower than I thought
39:00 <Tigger_> how low?
39:00 <Arbition> well with that cold bug for AMD processors being at -40
40:00 <Arbition> its somewhat moot
40:00 <Arbition> For mechanical systems (ie hard drives), I'm fairly sure their temperature is very narrow
40:00 <Arbition> because of how much they're affected by thermal contraction and expansion
41:00 <Tigger_> there was a very hot day in Brisbane once when it hit 40, I simply didn't turn the computer on that day
42:00 <Arbition> Oh I see
42:00 <Arbition> Condensation is an issue though
43:00 <Tigger_> for when it is turned off?
44:00 <Arbition> Both I think, moisture can also erode tracks, but its worse when it is on, due to the electron flow making it more likely that metals migrate
44:00 <Arbition> as well as causing shorts
45:00 <Arbition> I know some motherboards come with dehumidifiers lol
45:00 <Arbition> idk how they work though
46:00 <Tigger_> I can't imagine this is a serious issue outside the tropics and a water treatment plant?
46:00 <Arbition> I was reading in places with refridgeration units
46:00 <Arbition> where extreme cold does occur
47:00 <Tigger_> ah yes
47:00 <Arbition> but yeah in the tropics would be a pain
48:00 <Arbition> oh yeah, that was another thing in my house, cold water airconditioning
48:00 <Arbition> cool the water to 4C
48:00 <Arbition> then pump it through passive elements in the ceiling
49:00 <Arbition> no fan noise then
50:00 <Arbition> My house would be so expensive lol
50:00 <Arbition> and constantly under construction/modification
51:00 <Tigger_> I imagine this would require considerable planning detail, not something you could add in later
51:00 <Arbition> possibly
52:00 <Arbition> Or at least designed with the capacity to be modified in mind
57:00 <Tigger_> is your house a serious plan or a pirate treasure map at this stage?
58:00 <Arbition> pirate treasure map of course lol
59:00 <Arbition> I haven't even decided on a broad location for it yet
59:00 <Arbition> nor calculated land requirements
59:00 <Arbition> nor finances or utilities
59:00 <Arbition> I'd be aiming for off the grid, which just means more upfronts
00:00 <Tigger_> I just got my water rates bill, it was down a bit this time, $274
01:00 <Arbition> My general attitude is, go big or why bother
01:00 <Tigger_> your water tanks might be an upfront cost, but they'll pay themselves off, and afterwards there's a peace of mind not getting such bills in the mail
01:00 <Arbition> of course
02:00 <Arbition> so the question is how big upfront
02:00 <Arbition> and I'm likely to be in an area with poor rainfall
03:00 <Tigger_> you only need one big rainfall every year
03:00 <Arbition> I wouldn't even be sure I'd get that...
04:00 <Arbition> Hmm, maybe that is reason to pay a bit more for somewhere that has more rainfall
04:00 <Tigger_> going big is essential if a big rain is a rare event
04:00 <Tigger_> what's the price of a very large water tank?
04:00 <Arbition> I'm saying for the case that the rainfall isn't enough to fill the tank anyway
05:00 <Arbition> idk what you get in QLD, but it can be really really scarce some years here
06:00 <Tigger_> here the problem is too much rain, so you need a good drainage solution
06:00 <Arbition> sort of like how lake eyre only fills once every 5 years or whatever
06:00 <Tigger_> Lake Eyre fills from QLD rain though
07:00 <Arbition> that makes it worse then lol
08:00 <Tigger_> when I was a kid it rained solid for three months, I remember that I didn't even see the sun once through that time
11:00 <Tigger_> perhaps the best way to calculate the water requirements is to find out at what point is there a near 100% probability of say a week long downpour to fill your tanks, is it 2 years, 3 years, etc.
11:00 <Tigger_> does SA have week long downpours?
13:00 <Warren1984> Arbition I just like learning the theory of things i.e. how cars work, how electronics work
13:00 <Arbition> not really Tigger_
13:00 <Arbition> maybe 2-3 days
13:00 <Arbition> at most
13:00 <Tigger_> I see
14:00 <Arbition> I think some years recently we haven't even gotten that
14:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ so what other practical things that don't require a steady surgeon type hand?
14:00 <Tigger_> my assumptions have a localised bias
14:00 <Warren1984> I know there is cooking
15:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I think you'd be quite good in sales
15:00 <Warren1984> maybe
15:00 <Tigger_> since you like to learn the ins and outs of a product, whenever I go into a place like Harvey Norman the sales staff don't know anything about what they're selling
16:00 <Tigger_> before I got my projector, I once asked a Harvey Norman salesman what the resolution of the projector on display was, and he says "1100 lumens, mate"
17:00 <Tigger_> so I ended up ordering my projector from the US
18:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ so you mean I am thorough in learning about products?
18:00 <Tigger_> yes
19:00 <Tigger_> if the salesman knew anything, at least he could've held my attention a bit longer, maybe leading to a sale
19:00 <Warren1984> they could have said, "good question, let me find out"
20:00 <Warren1984> or made notes to learn it
20:00 <Warren1984> I use to do that at the call centre
20:00 <Warren1984> each day I wrote down things about the product
20:00 <Tigger_> I guess he was too arrogant for that, and didn't want to look stupid
20:00 <Arbition> mate
21:00 <Arbition> I do rather dislike the use of that term
21:00 <Tigger_> same
25:00 <Warren1984> what term?
26:00 <Tigger_> but the retail lobby is always whining about 'unfair' competition from GST free imports, one way they could make themselves more competitive is by not having uninterested, arrogant, and ill-mannered retail staff
26:00 <Arbition> "mate"
52:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you refuse to take action without plans and procedures in place?
53:00 <Warren1984> and not want to be accountable for your actions, if a mistake is made
07:00 <Tigger_> I think it's immoral not to take responsibility for one's own actions
21:00 <Tigger_> `topic Paving the road for the Bernie bro exodus to Trump: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4growj/trump_fan_here_no_tricks_no_troll_just_a_simple/
22:00 <Warren1984> If unsure it's best not to take action
23:00 <Tigger_> sometimes doing nothing is the best course of action
23:00 <Warren1984> something electronic breaks down, instead of taking action, you could say take that piece of shit out my face
26:00 <Warren1984> Introverted Thinking is an "action-based" kind of logic. In the case of the INTP (as opposed to ISTP), the action may or may not occur in a physical place outside of the INTP's mind, but it is experienced with lightning speed in the current moment, based on current objects, using subjectively understood "actions" of reason. 
26:00 <Tigger_> things sometimes fix themselves without you doing anything
27:00 <Warren1984> what must you do before taking action?
27:00 <Tigger_> plan
27:00 <Warren1984> get organized
27:00 <Warren1984> yes plan
27:00 <Tigger_> research
27:00 <Warren1984> what about todo lists
27:00 <Warren1984> SOPs
27:00 <Warren1984> checklists
30:00 <Tigger_> yes
56:00 <WhoMadeWho> cunz
57:00 <WhoMadeWho> donald trump should make babies with pauline hanson i say
06:00 <Warren1984> I am downloading war hammer 40,000
06:00 <Warren1984> for free because I got it like 10 years ago
06:00 <Warren1984> I wonder what happened to my AOE II
06:00 <Warren1984> how I can retrieve that
10:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ we should play this again -> Age of Empires II: Age of Kings
13:00 <Tigger_> you need to install Steam again, then log in and you should be able to download it
13:00 <Warren1984> I must have about 3 different steam accounts
17:00 <Tigger_> you will have to try them all
23:00 <Warren1984> don't know them all
37:00 <ajnin> hello
37:00 <Lish> Hi 
38:00 <Lish> Stupid selling houses ad on 
44:00 <ajnin> i jsut got a ING account
45:00 <Lish> What for 
45:00 <ajnin> no more fucking ATM fees!
46:00 <Lish> Oh yeah cool
55:00 <President_Trump> loollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
15:00 <erlich> ive got cheesecake with mixed berries
15:00 <erlich> Sara Lee
20:00 <President_Trump> Lish we won yet?
25:00 <President_Trump> <suttin> can we just use MAGA as a greeting?
25:00 <President_Trump> that is a great idea
27:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you should get The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
27:00 <Warren1984> it has clip clop in it
28:00 <President_Trump> maga warren
29:00 <Warren1984> what is maga?
29:00 <Warren1984> the horses name?
29:00 <Warren1984> Star Wars: Battlefront
29:00 <President_Trump> google it warren
30:00 <Warren1984> trump
31:00 <President_Trump> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/03/01/32C8BB3A00000578-3520973-image-a-20_1459643306641.jpg
47:00 <Lish> I did 8k steps today 
48:00 <erlich> autumn is a nice time to walk outside, shame about it getting dark a little earlier
48:00 <Lish> After work it was only 3k though because I was in meetings all day
48:00 <Warren1984> Lish how does that benefit us?
48:00 <Lish> So I had to go to the gym 
48:00 <Lish> I'll live longer warren, so you can enjoy my company for longer 
48:00 <erlich> which equipment do you kostly use at the gym, Lish ?
48:00 <erlich> lolll Lish 
48:00 <zim> do you go to anytime fitness
48:00 <erlich> mostly*
49:00 <Lish> Elliptical trainer or treadmill 
49:00 <erlich> how many hours do you spend at the gym roughly>
49:00 <erlich> a week
49:00 <erlich> im still not sure what is normal
49:00 <erlich> but i suppose it may depend on what they want out of it
49:00 <Guest88049> erlich
49:00 <Guest88049> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIKPeaTshbY&feature=youtu.be
49:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: BEAT 2016 REMIX (Apr 25, 2016) Length: 3:33 - Category: Music - 5 views views - 0 likes (0%), 0 dislikes (0%)
49:00 <erlich> not yet Guest88049 
50:00 <Guest88049> thats a live recording
50:00 <erlich> im listening to old rock
50:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_5YdPL9Go
50:00 <GreekSnake> hey sluts
50:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Fall At Your Feet. - Crowded House (Feb 17, 2010) Length: 3:18 - Category: Music - 413,330 views - 1,535 likes (97.7%), dislikes (2.3%)
50:00 <erlich> SV out
50:00 <erlich> and i will bail now as i havent seen it yet
50:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> GreekSnake, Silicon Valley has started again
50:00 <Lish> I haven't been going to the gym much lately
50:00 <erlich> ill re-read this screen after
51:00 <Lish> I'd exercise maybe... 4 times a week for an hour
51:00 <Guest88049> erlich in flstudio u can record live
51:00 <Guest88049> easy as
51:00 <Guest88049> i might get novation launchpad mini
51:00 <Guest88049> 118$ 
52:00 <Guest88049> it works with fl11
52:00 <Guest88049> i saw on youtube videos
53:00 <erlich> Warren's favourite song
53:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86C6VWvlKIQ
53:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tara McDonald vs Sidney Samson - Dynamite (Nicky Romero Remix) (Jul 5, 2011) Length: 5:46 - Category: Music - 2,230,107 views - likes (98.3%), 198 dislikes (1.7%)
54:00 <President_Trump> Lish is here to celebrates the donalds big wins today
54:00 <erlich> Isn't that right, Warren1984 ?
55:00 <President_Trump> after eight long years she wants to see someone who's not racist in the white house
56:00 <Warren1984> listening to it now
57:00 <ajnin> hello
59:00 <President_Trump> twitter shares down 15% lulz
59:00 <Guest88049> this erlich
59:00 <Guest88049> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7YSakZO33w
59:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: FL Studio│Launchpad Mini│Launchkey Mini (Sep 5, 2013) Length: 2:22 - Category: Music - 59,110 views - 421 likes (98.8%), 5 dislikes (1.2%)
59:00 <Guest88049> i gonna get i hope the pad
59:00 <Warren1984> yeah that is a good song erlich
00:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ posted this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSJyI8SKJnE
00:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Moonman: The Killing Moon - Sometimes It's (Feb 1, 2016) Length: 2:35 - Category: People & Blogs - 7,276 views - 171 likes (98.8%), 2 dislikes (1.2%)
02:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I was ready to vote for Hillary if she were to win the nomination, but with what's happened in recent week, fuck it. Fuck it all to hell. I'm voting for Trump if she gets the nomination. The whole thing needs to be burned down to the ground and reworked.
03:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBritainFirst/photos/a.346633882148546.1073741826.300455573433044/1021606597984601/?type=3&theater
03:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the general election isn't till the end of the year, yet already so many Berniebros are saying they're switching to Trump
04:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> that's a scene to make you feel comfortable and secure while flying
04:00 <GreekSnake> heh, that's what I was thinking
05:00 <President_Trump> why is it in black and white?
05:00 <President_Trump> and what airline
05:00 <GreekSnake> I mean if you had a fear of flying, that would push you over the edge
05:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Twitter shares are down because they harassed Milo
05:00 <GreekSnake> good
06:00 <zim> someone had the reclaim australia page removed from facebook
06:00 <zim> 61,000+ members on that thing myself included
06:00 <President_Trump> facebook remove 'hate' groups dont they?
06:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffOPImz4Rp0
06:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Triggering: Has Political Correctness Gone Too Far? (Date not found) Length: 01:31:06 - Category: News & Politics - 62,573 views - 2,080 likes (97.6%), 52 dislikes (2.4%)
06:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> that reminds me, Apple had its first revenue decline in 13 years
06:00 <President_Trump> it was reported in the media a bunch of internal facebook emails urging the ceo to find a way to take down trump through facebook
07:00 <GreekSnake> Milo gave the special snowflakes a good triggering
07:00 <GreekSnake> the other day
07:00 <President_Trump> yeah apple shares are down 8%
07:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I hate that expression "political correctness gone mad", when wasn't it mad in any form?
07:00 <zim> oh i take that back. its still there
07:00 <zim> https://www.facebook.com/Reclaim-Australia-Rally-Australia-wide-762398587169729
08:00 <zim> if anyone wants to join/support the cause
10:00 <President_Trump> who is zim?
10:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the right way to describe PC: https://scontent.fbne1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13082505_1009534892456096_7081608741175792269_n.jpg?oh=f69924920a80194accd0ed1d9471c18c&oe=57AA711C
11:00 <President_Trump> only white people have to be pc
11:00 <President_Trump> http://i.imgur.com/as1z6WV.png
13:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> A Sydney teenager accused of plotting an Anzac Day terror attack was known to police and had been taking part in a government funded deradicalisation program.
13:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/31427328/sydney-teen-charged-over-alleged-anzac-day-terror-plot-pleads-not-guilty/
13:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> so it worked as well as any other govt program
13:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/677218532416045/
13:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> heh
17:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> http://i68.tinypic.com/awc31g.jpg
19:00 <GreekSnake> he's always eating, it's disgusting
19:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1461/65/1461654881852.jpg
19:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1461/32/1461325540174.jpg
19:00 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXk6AdttQU
20:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Why Gen Y has been unfairly represented - Red Alert Politics (Apr 26, 2016) Length: 9:17 - Category: Nonprofits & Activism - 11,348 views - 1,602 likes (99.7%), 5 dislikes (0.3%)
20:00 <GreekSnake> I love Milo's Valley Girl accent
21:00 <Tigger_> that is Warren1984's favourite song
24:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> interesting about buzzfeed, which is turning into another new media disaster
24:00 <erlich> it has been a while since ive listened to Ennio Morricone
24:00 <erlich> did he ever score for Giallo?
25:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> I'm very happy to see it going down, along with Gawker
25:00 <GreekSnake> yes, great news
25:00 <President_Trump> there is a show on channel 2 atm, they are showing footage of australia in the 60s, everyone with big lawns and nice houses, no niggers in sight 
26:00 <GreekSnake> I love the comments under the video
26:00 <GreekSnake> all straight white guys fawning over Milo
26:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D_3c0T60GI
26:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Cinema Paradiso ♫ - 06 Love theme (Sep 30, 2010) Length: 2:48 - Category: Music - 200,881 views - 519 likes (98.7%), 7 dislikes (1.3%)
26:00 <Tigger_> yes, Morricone did some very brilliant giallo soundtracks, The Bird With the Crystal Plumage in particular
26:00 <erlich> although it says here his son ANdrea did this one
26:00 <erlich> i have that movie i believe but not seen it
26:00 <erlich> is that part of the trilogy?
27:00 <President_Trump> lol
27:00 <President_Trump> kucksich reckons it makes him look like 'a regular guy'
27:00 <Tigger_> no
27:00 <Tigger_> the only trilogy Argento did was the Three Mothers trilogy
28:00 <GreekSnake> all it does is expose his peasant Slav genes
28:00 <erlich> where has lil' marttin been these days?
28:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> as I was saying to xm earlier, when the Labour party was in office in England after WW2, they actually enforced the anti-sodomy laws on the books, which the Conservatives had a tradition of ignoring, and this was a milder version of what the USSR was doing
28:00 <Tigger_> the first part being Suspiria
28:00 <erlich> is Cinema Paradiso a good film? or is it one of those schmaltzy movies
28:00 <erlich> ive heard some very good sound tracks from some Wog movies, depressing ones
28:00 <erlich> e.g. For Love One Can Die
28:00 <erlich> about suicides and love triangles
29:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> and it's because leftists only think in terms of polar opposites as being the only allowable choices, either 1. nobody is allowed to be gay, or 2. everyone MUST be gay
29:00 <erlich> ill see if i can download it
29:00 <Tigger_> actually Bird With the Crystal Plumage has Morricone doing the soundtrack, and Vittorio Storaro the cinematography
29:00 <Tigger_> that's quite an intersection of talent there
29:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r35WQD6MCe0
29:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ennio Morricone - For love one can die (Jan 31, 2009) Length: 3:51 - Category: Music - 1,585,941 views - 5,128 likes (98.6%), 74 dislikes (1.4%)
29:00 <erlich> very, very sad. so beautiful
29:00 <Warren1984> Expansions
29:00 <Warren1984> Main articles: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm and StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void
29:00 <Warren1984> During the development of StarCraft II, it was also announced that the game and its expansions would form a trilogy, with each chapter to center on one of the three playable races. The first expansion – Heart of the Swarm, which focuses on the Zerg race – was released on March 12, 2013.[67] The second expansion Legacy of the Void, which centers on the Protoss race, was released on 
29:00 <Warren1984> November 10, 2015.
29:00 <Tigger_> Cinema Paradiso was good from what I remember, years ago
30:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> they've been in mode 2 for awhile, but inevitably they'll switch back to the former mode
30:00 <Warren1984> erlich get starcraft II brp
30:00 <Warren1984> bro
31:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> their raging at Milo might be a foreshadowing of what's to come
31:00 <Tigger_> the giallo I watched the other night, Footsteps on the Moon, was also shot by Storaro, weird to think he was doing Apocalypse Now pretty soon after that
31:00 <erlich> Cinematographers never get the respect they deserve
31:00 <erlich> everyone remembers the actors, then the director, then the soundtrack guy
32:00 <Tigger_> I'm always alert to the cinematographer
32:00 <erlich> although not many people really know soundtrack artists really, i supose i do and most of my friends do but the average person doesnt
32:00 <erlich> like not many people would even know John Williams
32:00 <erlich> even though he is huge
33:00 <Tigger_> I think anyone into film knows these people, Williams and Morricone in particular
33:00 <erlich> also people picture the director as the cinematographer, conflating both domains
33:00 <erlich> i always forget his name, what's that greek guy that did Electric Dreams
33:00 <erlich> i like his music too but he had a woggy name so iforget
34:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> hmmm, Milo's mother was hysterical when he came out
34:00 <Tigger_> sometimes it happens, Kubrick literally told the cinematographer of Spartacus to sit down in the corner, and he shot it all himself, and won the best cinematography award for the guy who wasn't allowed near the camera
34:00 <Tigger_> that is Georgio Moroder
34:00 <erlich> ahh yeah him
34:00 <erlich> ill never remember that name
34:00 <Tigger_> I'm also intrigued by giallo disco music
35:00 <erlich> Kubrick had kids right?
35:00 <erlich> lol what
35:00 <erlich> i was listening to Prince conspiracy broadcasts last night
35:00 <erlich> and then by chance they mentioned EWS
35:00 <erlich> i dont quite understand what those large sex parties have to do with the NWO?
35:00 <erlich> what is the significance of these orgies?
35:00 <Tigger_> Prince was a believer in chemtrails, and thought that they caused black people to fight each other more
36:00 <erlich> he sure did, i only found out last night'
36:00 <erlich> i think he's quite smart
36:00 <erlich> the way he talked it was very calmly placed and he put a lot of thought into it
36:00 <erlich> not like a lot of black rappers
36:00 <erlich> placed/paced*
36:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udcujCjOebk
36:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: (GD008) DKMD - Sacrificio (Jan 11, 2015) Length: - Category: Music - 8,292 views - 97 likes (96%), 4 dislikes (4%)
36:00 <Tigger_> giallo disco
37:00 <erlich> kinda spooky
37:00 <erlich> but i suppose that is the poin t
38:00 <Tigger_> it is curious how out of touch Prince was with everything, such as being a black guy who plays every instrument, in an era when blacks play no instruments
39:00 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDZOXMWUAUT1Li.jpg:large
39:00 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllll
39:00 <erlich> im intrigued by this clip
40:00 <GreekSnake> it's always the mothers who get hysterical
40:00 <GreekSnake> since they think they've failed to raise a real man
40:00 <Tigger_> and when angry gangsta rap was big, Prince was in the middle of his sex obsessed Diamonds and Pearls era
41:00 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDRfpXW0AAedpE.jpg:large
41:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> lol, that's the best one yet
41:00 <GreekSnake> I love how the media are still pretending that Trump doesn't have the nomination in the bag
41:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> but Erdogan won't mind, he is a man of humility and a good sense of humour, always turning the other cheek
41:00 <GreekSnake> so much propaganda
41:00 <erlich> this clip is insane
42:00 <GreekSnake> fuck, Putin's daughter has huge jugs
42:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> oh and Marttin has not been on much since Bernie has been crashing and berning
42:00 <erlich> she looks likea homely girl and is guilty of all that
43:00 <President_Trump> Marttin is now on the trump train
43:00 <erlich> lol, he is quite passionate about that i suppose
43:00 <GreekSnake> I'm surprised he lets her prance around in such revealing attire
43:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> that's why girls shouldn't be allowed to have a credit card
43:00 <GreekSnake> though I suppose the Slavs are sexually much more liberated than we are in the West
43:00 <President_Trump> i used to always think marttin was laughing at bernie when he was posting all those articles and pics of him
43:00 <Tigger_> it's shot like a giallo film, the weird angles, overly dramatic expressions, close ups, etc.
43:00 <erlich> going by the cast, non-Wogs
43:00 <erlich> i suppose you dont have to be wog to do Giallo
43:00 <erlich> in the same way you dont need to be Asian to do a martial arts movie
44:00 <GreekSnake> no, European commies are excited as fuck at the prospect of a Bernie presidency
44:00 <erlich> who pioneered giallo?
44:00 <Tigger_> as far as I'm concerned only Italian films are giallo
44:00 <Tigger_> Mario Bava started it off with The Girl Who Knew Too Much in 1963, but Argento made it big with The Bird With the Crystal Plumage in 1970
45:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Slavs aren't sexually liberated, they're sexually conservative but don't wear much
46:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Some of you may disagree with me, but if Bernie doesn't win the nomination I will be voting for Donald Trump. While he's no where near as good as Sanders on any level he's an anti-establishment candidate who has the ability to stop the Clinton machine and actually make some positive changes in America for the people. On many real issues Trump is more Democratic than Republican and none of the radical ideas he has like the 
46:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> wall would actually be able to get passed
46:00 <Tigger_> I don't think the French could ever make giallo, as they are desperate to make everything borin
46:00 <Tigger_> boring
47:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> You should check out Donald Trump. He gives daily speeches at rallies, and they tend to be pretty good. I think a lot of people here would agree with most of what he says.
47:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince>  I am taking deep breaths to prepare myself to vote for Donald Trump. I know Bernie still has life left in him though, so I havent really made the decision.
47:00 <President_Trump> http://s3.freebeacon.com/up/2014/08/INFphoto_30818632.jpg
47:00 <Tigger_> there was an American late 70s film called "The Eyes of Laura Mars" that is said to be an American giallo, but I've never seen it
47:00 <Tigger_> why the red circle?
48:00 <President_Trump> no idea
49:00 <GreekSnake> lol
49:00 <Tigger_> Bill is on Tinder, recruiting his new batch of interns
50:00 <erlich> does circle still talk?
50:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> in all these reddit posts I haven't seen a single Berniebro declare that they're going to suck it up and vote for Hillary
50:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qnsZgQe1tU
50:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Lena (Germany) performs winning 2010 Eurovision Song Contest song (Jun 4, 2010) Length: 3:58 - Category: Entertainment - 3,537,243 views - 14,219 likes (88.4%), 1,865 dislikes (11.6%)
50:00 <erlich> or maybe he likes vaporwave only
50:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> yes, he talked earlier about how he almost hit a kangaroo today
50:00 <erlich> ahhh yeah he did too
51:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Hillary is about as electable as she is likeable. Now Bernie needs to make the case...independents don't like her and won't vote for her which means she will lose.
51:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Honestly, after how the democrats treated Bernie like this. I'm considering the drumpf... They need to learn to not do this!
51:00 <Tigger_> most interesting that this came out today: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3562640/Prince-diagnosed-AIDs-six-months-died-refused-treatment-believed-God-heal-him.html
52:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> A Trump win destroys both establishments, it's why he has to win now that Bernie is basically out. The main goal here is to remove corruption and end the dichotomy, that's what Bernie and those before him want.
52:00 <erlich> i could tell that sentence wasnt yours as soon as it started with" Honestly"
52:00 <erlich> you never use those sort of phrases/words
52:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Trump - Sanders 2016...the only logical move...to crush Hil-dog...you heard it here first...
52:00 <Tigger_> Blind Gossip announced the AIDS issue several days prior to his death: http://blindgossip.com/?p=77843
53:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> writing style is a fingerprint on irc
53:00 <GreekSnake> http://www.politico.com/blogs/twelve-thirty-seven/2016/04/donald-trump-popular-vote-record-222510?lo=ap_c1
53:00 <erlich> my style varies a bit depending on whom im talking to
53:00 <GreekSnake> he's really the most popular Republican candidate ever
53:00 <erlich> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xe6VKUKsGY
53:00 <erlich> trance classic
53:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Angelic - It's My Turn (Original Mix) (Dec 9, 2013) Length: 7:37 - Category: Music - 15,868 views - likes (98.4%), 3 dislikes (1.6%)
54:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> Trump is certain to pass McCain’s total next week in Indiana, but more importantly, he’s positioned to easily pass the modern record-holder George W. Bush — who collected 10.8 million votes in 2000.
54:00 <erlich> so is it looking like Trump is going to win overall?>
54:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> what year is this?  it sounds old
54:00 <circle> thank you GoodnightSweetPrince 
55:00 <President_Trump> so trump gets independents, bernie voters, democrats, gop not happy
55:00 <GreekSnake> Hillary is only a couple of points ahead in the national poll, but Trump hasn't even started on her yet
56:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> the GOP just needs to get on board the Trump train and enjoy winning
56:00 <President_Trump> the pollster on fux news said trump will get the most black votes for a republican ever
56:00 <circle> she is pretty erlich 
56:00 <circle> she's too skinny tho
57:00 <circle> what the fuck is with that accent tho
57:00 <GoodnightSweetPrince> it'll be the most one sided election in history, after months of voters having to listen to Hillary's croaking
57:00 <GreekSnake> I know, very kraut meets cockney
58:00 <President_Trump> i am still worried about biden coming in last minute once hillary goes to jail
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