// #politicaldebate — 2016-01-27
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00:00:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkwta9rRbUk
00:00:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 2015 Sydney NYE Fireworks Midnight Fireworks (Full Show) (Dec 31, 2015) Length: 13:21 - Category: Entertainment - 162,833 views - likes (97.9%), 21 dislikes (2.1%)
00:01:11 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkwta9rRbUk
00:01:15 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 2015 Sydney NYE Fireworks Midnight Fireworks (Full Show) (Dec 31, 2015) Length: 13:21 - Category: Entertainment - 162,833 views - likes (97.9%), 21 dislikes (2.1%)
00:03:00 <Warren1984> xm -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkwta9rRbUk
00:03:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 2015 Sydney NYE Fireworks Midnight Fireworks (Full Show) (Dec 31, 2015) Length: 13:21 - Category: Entertainment - 162,833 views - likes (97.9%), 21 dislikes (2.1%)
00:03:00 <xm> ey waz
00:03:00 <xm> did you hear the crazy thunder yesterday warren
00:03:00 <xm> around 6am
00:03:00 <xm> insanely loud
00:03:00 <xm> or was it friday
00:03:32 <Warren1984> xm -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkwta9rRbUk
00:03:35 <BlackDevil> Youtube: 2015 Sydney NYE Fireworks Midnight Fireworks (Full Show) (Dec 31, 2015) Length: 13:21 - Category: Entertainment - 162,833 views - likes (97.9%), 21 dislikes (2.1%)
00:03:47 <xm> ey waz
00:04:01 <xm> did you hear the crazy thunder yesterday warren
00:04:05 <xm> around 6am
00:04:08 <xm> insanely loud
00:04:15 <xm> or was it friday
00:06:00 <Warren1984> yeah I think so
00:06:00 <Warren1984> that was Tigger_ farting
00:06:35 <Warren1984> yeah I think so
00:06:42 <Warren1984> that was Tigger_ farting
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00:12:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should watch this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_93s-IJJm4
00:12:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: (HD) Why AMERICA Fears RUSSIA #Mind Blow 2015 Full Documentary (Dec 10, 2015) Length: 50:48 - Category: People & Blogs - 36,947 views - 66 likes (59.5%), 45 dislikes (40.5%)
00:13:17 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should watch this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_93s-IJJm4
00:13:21 <BlackDevil> Youtube: (HD) Why AMERICA Fears RUSSIA #Mind Blow 2015 Full Documentary (Dec 10, 2015) Length: 50:48 - Category: People & Blogs - 36,947 views - 66 likes (59.5%), 45 dislikes (40.5%)
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00:25:00 <circle> where is springroll/subway
00:25:28 <circle> where is springroll/subway
00:27:00 <President_Trump> in jail
00:27:56 <President_Trump> in jail
00:31:00 <Warren1984> President_Trump does a digital voice recorder help organization, working memory and awareness of time
00:31:00 <President_Trump> no
00:31:44 <Warren1984> President_Trump does a digital voice recorder help organization, working memory and awareness of time
00:31:56 <President_Trump> no
00:33:00 <Warren1984> why
00:33:00 <President_Trump> circle what do u want him for?
00:34:00 <circle> just talk
00:34:00 <circle> hes a good m8
00:34:00 <President_Trump> about what?
00:34:00 <circle> need to discuss some shit
00:34:00 <President_Trump> how long have you known him for?
00:34:13 <Warren1984> why
00:34:21 <President_Trump> circle what do u want him for?
00:34:42 <circle> just talk
00:34:48 <circle> hes a good m8
00:34:48 <President_Trump> about what?
00:34:53 <circle> need to discuss some shit
00:35:00 <circle> weeks
00:35:01 <President_Trump> how long have you known him for?
00:36:02 <circle> weeks
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10:24:00 <Abortion> So I was just reading an article relating to the Demographia survey about house price affordability. Mentioned is Bob Day, whose views on house price affordability mirror circle's
10:24:00 <Abortion> That is, zoning regulation restricts construction, in effect
10:24:50 <Abortion> So I was just reading an article relating to the Demographia survey about house price affordability. Mentioned is Bob Day, whose views on house price affordability mirror circle's
10:25:00 <Abortion> Personally I think people should be able to build their own houses, its basically impossible to build it yourself, because of regulation
10:25:09 <Abortion> That is, zoning regulation restricts construction, in effect
10:26:00 <Abortion> Personally I think people should be able to build their own houses, its basically impossible to build it yourself, because of regulation
10:26:00 <Abortion> So you gotta pay a bunch of carpenters, brickies etc
10:26:32 <Abortion> So you gotta pay a bunch of carpenters, brickies etc
10:27:00 <Abortion> It also means that if you want to try alternative building approaches, you are in a niche market where construction is even more expensive, even if the technique could be more easily done by one person
10:27:36 <Abortion> It also means that if you want to try alternative building approaches, you are in a niche market where construction is even more expensive, even if the technique could be more easily done by one person
10:35:00 <Tigger_> it is unfortunate, but things being what they are, building regulation is a necessary evil
10:35:50 <Tigger_> it is unfortunate, but things being what they are, building regulation is a necessary evil
10:37:00 <Abortion> That's a general assertion, what specifically about home construction is most pertinent?
10:37:00 <Tigger_> the sort of organic development that leads to attractive architecture takes centuries of mistrials before it gets things right, such as in Europe
10:37:25 <Abortion> That's a general assertion, what specifically about home construction is most pertinent?
10:37:32 <Tigger_> the sort of organic development that leads to attractive architecture takes centuries of mistrials before it gets things right, such as in Europe
10:38:00 <Tigger_> well without regulation you would very quickly end up with high density slums, shanty towns, etc.
10:38:29 <Tigger_> well without regulation you would very quickly end up with high density slums, shanty towns, etc.
10:39:00 <Abortion> I was thinking more in terms of, insulation, structural rigidity, land use %
10:39:00 <Abortion> thats still not specific, thats a general objective
10:39:00 <Abortion> is it enough to simply have building plan approval with council?
10:39:24 <Abortion> I was thinking more in terms of, insulation, structural rigidity, land use %
10:39:34 <Abortion> thats still not specific, thats a general objective
10:40:00 <Tigger_> I agree that some regulation is protectionism for the building industry, and that certification for structural integrity would be a better solution
10:40:20 <Abortion> is it enough to simply have building plan approval with council?
10:41:00 <Abortion> supported by both developers and unions
10:41:00 <Tigger_> yes, as is usually the case
10:41:22 <Tigger_> I agree that some regulation is protectionism for the building industry, and that certification for structural integrity would be a better solution
10:41:49 <Abortion> supported by both developers and unions
10:42:02 <Tigger_> yes, as is usually the case
10:43:00 <Tigger_> I would like to regulate against the sorts of eyesores that flamboyant architects build for themselves, they comply with every planning regulation, but they're a blight on the landscape, every upmarket suburb has at least one or two
10:44:00 <Abortion> There is one across the road from my dads place. It is massive and people go by slowly to have a look at it, but its still not that nice to look at
10:44:07 <Tigger_> I would like to regulate against the sorts of eyesores that flamboyant architects build for themselves, they comply with every planning regulation, but they're a blight on the landscape, every upmarket suburb has at least one or two
10:45:00 <Tigger_> I imagine that the architect is putting in every goofy idea he had that the philistine clients rejected over the years
10:45:20 <Abortion> There is one across the road from my dads place. It is massive and people go by slowly to have a look at it, but its still not that nice to look at
10:45:59 <Tigger_> I imagine that the architect is putting in every goofy idea he had that the philistine clients rejected over the years
10:46:00 <Abortion> Not quite McMansion, but they've put a glasshouse on a half acre block, basically
10:46:00 <Abortion> oh this probably isn't an architects home
10:46:00 <Tigger_> a doctor's wife?
10:46:00 <Abortion> I don't think Architects earn enough to buy two quarter acre blocks and merge them
10:46:34 <Abortion> Not quite McMansion, but they've put a glasshouse on a half acre block, basically
10:46:48 <Abortion> oh this probably isn't an architects home
10:47:00 <Abortion> no idea
10:47:00 <Abortion> a family definately lives there though
10:47:00 <Abortion> (with kids that is)
10:47:04 <Tigger_> a doctor's wife?
10:47:20 <Abortion> I don't think Architects earn enough to buy two quarter acre blocks and merge them
10:47:36 <Abortion> no idea
10:47:47 <Abortion> a family definately lives there though
10:47:52 <Abortion> (with kids that is)
10:48:00 <Tigger_> here is Kowloon, a city that sprung up in unclaimed territory between Hong Kong and China, and has since been torn down: https://speakzeasy.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/kowloon-walled-city-desktop-hd-wallpaper-29200.jpg
10:48:00 <Tigger_> it's what you get with zero regulation
10:48:29 <Tigger_> here is Kowloon, a city that sprung up in unclaimed territory between Hong Kong and China, and has since been torn down: https://speakzeasy.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/kowloon-walled-city-desktop-hd-wallpaper-29200.jpg
10:48:40 <Tigger_> it's what you get with zero regulation
10:49:00 <Abortion> That actually doesn't bother me all that much. Poor people have to live somewhere
10:49:00 <Abortion> well, unless the alternative is they don't live
10:49:55 <Abortion> That actually doesn't bother me all that much. Poor people have to live somewhere
10:50:00 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139914/A-rare-insight-Kowloon-Walled-City.html lots of photos here
10:50:00 <Tigger_> I first learned about it in a manga comic, and I assumed the author was just making it up
10:50:05 <Abortion> well, unless the alternative is they don't live
10:50:52 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139914/A-rare-insight-Kowloon-Walled-City.html lots of photos here
10:51:00 <Abortion> hahaha, looks like a suburb in a futurist fiction
10:51:00 <Abortion> Like the Refugee island in GitS 2nd Gig
10:51:12 <Tigger_> I first learned about it in a manga comic, and I assumed the author was just making it up
10:51:50 <Abortion> hahaha, looks like a suburb in a futurist fiction
10:52:00 <Tigger_> what's that?
10:52:00 <Abortion> Ghost in the Shell, Series 2
10:52:19 <Abortion> Like the Refugee island in GitS 2nd Gig
10:52:53 <Tigger_> what's that?
10:53:00 <Tigger_> ah right
10:53:00 <Abortion> ok thats a more worrying aspect "Food processors admitted they had moved into the city to benefit from the low rents and to seek refuge from the jurisdiction of government health and sanitation inspectors"
10:53:09 <Abortion> Ghost in the Shell, Series 2
10:54:00 <Tigger_> yeah the architectural montages are my favourite thing about Ghost in the Shell
10:54:04 <Tigger_> ah right
10:54:05 <Abortion> ok thats a more worrying aspect "Food processors admitted they had moved into the city to benefit from the low rents and to seek refuge from the jurisdiction of government health and sanitation inspectors"
10:54:30 <Tigger_> yeah the architectural montages are my favourite thing about Ghost in the Shell
10:56:00 <Abortion> but yeah cities like that are also described in science fiction books, like Neuromancer
10:56:00 <Tigger_> but with a combination of unregulated migration, and unregulated building, then you'd end up with areas like that in Australia before long, not that I expect it'll go that far
10:56:37 <Abortion> but yeah cities like that are also described in science fiction books, like Neuromancer
10:57:00 <Tigger_> I had an idea for an SF film set in a sprawling city, and go to different slums around the world to film it, and in the context of the film, all these slums are just suburbs of the one city
10:57:05 <Tigger_> but with a combination of unregulated migration, and unregulated building, then you'd end up with areas like that in Australia before long, not that I expect it'll go that far
10:58:00 <Tigger_> but I could never think of a good enough story
10:58:18 <Tigger_> I had an idea for an SF film set in a sprawling city, and go to different slums around the world to film it, and in the context of the film, all these slums are just suburbs of the one city
10:58:37 <Tigger_> but I could never think of a good enough story
10:59:00 <Tigger_> another extreme city, and perhaps the people most suited for colonising Mars: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3416963/Think-s-cold-Spare-thought-residents-Norilsk-northernmost-city-world-endure-temperatures-55-C-two-months-24-7-darkness-year.html
10:59:00 <Abortion> The people most suited to colonising mars are the people who have already put them selves up for wanting to go, I believe. These people are the kind of people who don't have much else, and would risk everything
10:59:32 <Tigger_> another extreme city, and perhaps the people most suited for colonising Mars: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3416963/Think-s-cold-Spare-thought-residents-Norilsk-northernmost-city-world-endure-temperatures-55-C-two-months-24-7-darkness-year.html
11:00:17 <Abortion> The people most suited to colonising mars are the people who have already put them selves up for wanting to go, I believe. These people are the kind of people who don't have much else, and would risk everything
11:01:00 <Tigger_> they haven't proved anything yet, these guys have
11:01:43 <Tigger_> they haven't proved anything yet, these guys have
11:02:00 <Abortion> I don't think it matters, tbh. The mission generally demands that its a one way trip
11:02:00 <Abortion> they can't come back just because they get cold feet
11:02:00 <Abortion> they'll be forced to adapt or die
11:02:38 <Abortion> I don't think it matters, tbh. The mission generally demands that its a one way trip
11:02:50 <Abortion> they can't come back just because they get cold feet
11:02:54 <Abortion> they'll be forced to adapt or die
11:04:00 <Tigger_> the psychological issues would be hardest to deal with, people don't know if they can endure years of extreme confinement until they've actually been exposed to it
11:05:02 <Tigger_> the psychological issues would be hardest to deal with, people don't know if they can endure years of extreme confinement until they've actually been exposed to it
11:09:00 <Tigger_> one example of adaptation to prolonged confinement is little personality differentiation, eskimos have struck visitors as having a sort of group mind
11:10:23 <Tigger_> one example of adaptation to prolonged confinement is little personality differentiation, eskimos have struck visitors as having a sort of group mind
11:33:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
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11:34:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
11:34:00 <Warren1984> hi all
11:34:00 <Warren1984> where is DoCotor
11:34:03 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
11:34:44 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
11:34:47 <Warren1984> hi all
11:34:55 <Warren1984> where is DoCotor
11:35:00 <Tigger_> doctor is having a bath
11:35:32 <Tigger_> doctor is having a bath
11:36:00 <Warren1984> and erlich
11:37:00 <Tigger_> I just got my new Breville blender
11:37:00 <Warren1984> pic
11:37:00 <Warren1984> what is the link Tigger_
11:37:18 <Warren1984> and erlich
11:37:24 <Tigger_> I just got my new Breville blender
11:37:37 <Warren1984> pic
11:38:00 <Tigger_> here: http://www.breville.com.au/professional-800-collectionr-die-cast-blender.html
11:38:00 <Tigger_> the Kinetix Pro
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:14] <@Tigger_> http://www.amazon.com/Borner-Stainless-Steel-Mandoline-V-Slicer/dp/B004QEWRBG
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:14] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-scraper-mixer-twintm.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:15] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/shake-creationstm.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:15] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-custom-loaf-protm.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:15] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-smart-fryertm.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:16] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-quick-touchtm-stainless.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:16] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-multi-chef-tm-brc600.html <- I use this the most
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:17] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-toast-melt-4-slice-sandwich-press.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:17] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-smart-scoop.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:18] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-crispy-crust-tm.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:18] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-bit-more.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:19] <@Tigger_> I also have a Sunbeam blender, though an old model that's out of production now
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [15:21] <@Tigger_> and I have various stainless steel implements, such as a pizza cutter, potato peeler, icecream scoop, etc
11:38:00 <Warren1984> [09:35] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-freeze-and-mixtm.html
11:38:00 <Warren1984> http://www.breville.com.au/professional-800-collectionr-die-cast-blender.h
11:38:12 <Warren1984> what is the link Tigger_
11:38:34 <Tigger_> here: http://www.breville.com.au/professional-800-collectionr-die-cast-blender.html
11:39:00 <Tigger_> the .html is cut off
11:39:04 <Tigger_> the Kinetix Pro
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:14] <@Tigger_> http://www.amazon.com/Borner-Stainless-Steel-Mandoline-V-Slicer/dp/B004QEWRBG
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:14] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-scraper-mixer-twintm.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:15] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/shake-creationstm.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:15] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-custom-loaf-protm.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:15] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-smart-fryertm.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:16] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-quick-touchtm-stainless.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:16] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-multi-chef-tm-brc600.html <- I use this the most
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:17] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-toast-melt-4-slice-sandwich-press.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:17] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-smart-scoop.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:18] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-crispy-crust-tm.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:18] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-bit-more.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:19] <@Tigger_> I also have a Sunbeam blender, though an old model that's out of production now
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [15:21] <@Tigger_> and I have various stainless steel implements, such as a pizza cutter, potato peeler, icecream scoop, etc
11:39:12 <Warren1984> [09:35] <@Tigger_> http://www.breville.com.au/the-freeze-and-mixtm.html
11:39:12 <Warren1984> http://www.breville.com.au/professional-800-collectionr-die-cast-blender.h
11:40:00 <Tigger_> the .html is cut off
11:40:00 <Warren1984> http://www.breville.com.au/professional-800-collectionr-die-cast-blender.html
11:40:00 <Tigger_> I also have this: http://www.breville.com.au/juice-fountaintm-plus.html
11:40:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ lists are the key to organizing and remembering
11:40:00 <Tigger_> and also this: http://www.breville.com.au/the-original-74tm.html
11:40:30 <Warren1984> http://www.breville.com.au/professional-800-collectionr-die-cast-blender.html
11:40:42 <Tigger_> I also have this: http://www.breville.com.au/juice-fountaintm-plus.html
11:40:45 <Warren1984> Tigger_ lists are the key to organizing and remembering
11:40:56 <Tigger_> and also this: http://www.breville.com.au/the-original-74tm.html
11:44:00 <Warren1984> anything else
11:44:00 <Warren1984> you sure do like your cooking
11:45:00 <Tigger_> no that's it
11:45:00 <Warren1984> do you have a big kitchen?
11:45:00 <Tigger_> cooking skills are necessary to be independent
11:45:00 <Tigger_> pretty big
11:45:14 <Warren1984> anything else
11:45:21 <Warren1984> you sure do like your cooking
11:45:24 <Tigger_> no that's it
11:45:46 <Warren1984> do you have a big kitchen?
11:45:52 <Tigger_> cooking skills are necessary to be independent
11:45:55 <Tigger_> pretty big
11:46:00 <Warren1984> yeah my Mum's kitchen is small
11:46:29 <Warren1984> yeah my Mum's kitchen is small
11:48:00 <Tigger_> tell her to buy a huge house with a big kitchen
11:49:03 <Tigger_> tell her to buy a huge house with a big kitchen
11:52:00 <Warren1984> that is what she wants
11:53:16 <Warren1984> that is what she wants
11:54:00 <Tigger_> Russians survive the extremes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3416963/Think-s-cold-Spare-thought-residents-Norilsk-northernmost-city-world-endure-temperatures-55-C-two-months-24-7-darkness-year.html
11:54:39 <Tigger_> Russians survive the extremes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3416963/Think-s-cold-Spare-thought-residents-Norilsk-northernmost-city-world-endure-temperatures-55-C-two-months-24-7-darkness-year.html
12:01:00 <Tigger_> ok, finished reading the manual, I'm going to test the blender with some ice now
12:02:08 <Tigger_> ok, finished reading the manual, I'm going to test the blender with some ice now
12:07:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I have to remember everything you say so that I can get those kitchen tools in the future
12:08:02 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I have to remember everything you say so that I can get those kitchen tools in the future
12:19:00 <Tigger_> well that is very interesting
12:19:00 <Tigger_> it turned the ice into snow
12:19:00 <Tigger_> and so I've made a cola snow drink
12:19:39 <Tigger_> well that is very interesting
12:19:44 <Tigger_> it turned the ice into snow
12:20:03 <Tigger_> and so I've made a cola snow drink
12:21:00 <Tigger_> this has worked very well
12:21:29 <Tigger_> this has worked very well
12:22:00 <Tigger_> the ice is a lot smoother than the way I normally make it, a different texture
12:22:56 <Tigger_> the ice is a lot smoother than the way I normally make it, a different texture
12:35:00 <BlackDevil> did you know the world is flat?
12:35:30 <BlackDevil> did you know the world is flat?
12:37:00 <Tigger_> the burden of proof is on the round earthers
12:38:11 <Tigger_> the burden of proof is on the round earthers
13:17:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how many years have you being saving for these Breville products?
13:17:41 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how many years have you being saving for these Breville products?
13:26:00 <Tigger_> none
13:26:00 <Tigger_> I just bought them when I felt like it
13:26:50 <Tigger_> none
13:27:13 <Tigger_> I just bought them when I felt like it
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14:45:00 <tisk> hi
14:45:00 <tisk> Marttin, Tigger_
14:45:00 <tisk> https://youtu.be/BI6eARWnipM
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14:45:51 <tisk> hi
14:45:54 <tisk> Marttin, Tigger_
14:45:56 <tisk> https://youtu.be/BI6eARWnipM
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14:59:00 <Warren1984> hey Marttin
14:59:48 <Warren1984> hey Marttin
15:00:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ does a digital voice recorder help with 1. Organization 2. awareness of time and 3. working memory?
15:00:00 <Warren1984> and put it in a linear format that can be completed step-by-step
15:00:34 <Warren1984> Tigger_ does a digital voice recorder help with 1. Organization 2. awareness of time and 3. working memory?
15:01:07 <Warren1984> and put it in a linear format that can be completed step-by-step
15:02:00 <Warren1984> well Tigger_?
15:02:42 <Warren1984> well Tigger_?
15:05:00 <Warren1984> each of these linear processes can be turned into a compiled SOP booklet
15:06:00 <Warren1984> that is a very left brained way of looking at the world
15:06:06 <Warren1984> each of these linear processes can be turned into a compiled SOP booklet
15:06:56 <Warren1984> that is a very left brained way of looking at the world
15:07:00 <Warren1984> cannot see the bigger picture
15:08:22 <Warren1984> cannot see the bigger picture
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15:11:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ go here -> http://www.chabad.org/
15:11:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ go here -> http://www.chabad.org/
15:12:00 <Tigger_> I have never used a digital voice recorder in my life, so I have no views about their functions
15:13:00 <Tigger_> a jewish site
15:13:09 <Tigger_> I have never used a digital voice recorder in my life, so I have no views about their functions
15:13:39 <Tigger_> a jewish site
15:16:00 <Warren1984> http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45132/jewish/What-Makes-a-Jew-Jewish.htm
15:16:00 <Warren1984> Question:
15:16:00 <Warren1984> Is Judaism a "religion"? Is the term "non-religious Jew" an oxymoron? Can one still be Jewish without observing the edicts and ethos of Torah in one's daily life?
15:16:00 <Warren1984> Answer:
15:16:00 <Warren1984> Jews defy all conventional definitions of a "people" or "nation." We lack a common race, culture or historical experience.
15:16:39 <Warren1984> http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45132/jewish/What-Makes-a-Jew-Jewish.htm
15:17:19 <Warren1984> Question:
15:17:20 <Warren1984> Is Judaism a "religion"? Is the term "non-religious Jew" an oxymoron? Can one still be Jewish without observing the edicts and ethos of Torah in one's daily life?
15:17:20 <Warren1984> Answer:
15:17:20 <Warren1984> Jews defy all conventional definitions of a "people" or "nation." We lack a common race, culture or historical experience.
15:19:00 <Tigger_> someone can be a non-religious catholic or non-religious Anglican
15:20:00 <Tigger_> it becomes an ethnic identity
15:20:10 <Tigger_> someone can be a non-religious catholic or non-religious Anglican
15:20:25 <Tigger_> it becomes an ethnic identity
15:24:00 <Tigger_> http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/mobile-accessories/bamboo-spark
15:24:00 <Tigger_> this is an interesting way to take notes
15:24:00 <Tigger_> http://bamboo.wacom.com/introducing-bamboo-spark-write-on-paper-save-digitally/
15:24:31 <Tigger_> http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/mobile-accessories/bamboo-spark
15:24:37 <Tigger_> this is an interesting way to take notes
15:25:00 <Tigger_> you can write notes on paper, but the notes are also digitally stored
15:25:12 <Tigger_> http://bamboo.wacom.com/introducing-bamboo-spark-write-on-paper-save-digitally/
15:25:26 <Tigger_> you can write notes on paper, but the notes are also digitally stored
15:31:00 <Warren1984> yeah you write notes on 400 page A4 binder books
15:31:00 <Warren1984> the mistake I made last time was making notes on 64 page books
15:31:00 <Warren1984> now I have about 5 books instead of 1
15:31:41 <Warren1984> yeah you write notes on 400 page A4 binder books
15:31:59 <Warren1984> the mistake I made last time was making notes on 64 page books
15:32:00 <Warren1984> but now I have 400 for the coming up study
15:32:00 <Warren1984> hey fataznbaby
15:32:00 <fataznbaby> Ey wazza
15:32:00 <fataznbaby> 400 bucks?
15:32:12 <Warren1984> now I have about 5 books instead of 1
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15:32:41 <Warren1984> but now I have 400 for the coming up study
15:32:43 <Warren1984> hey fataznbaby
15:32:49 <fataznbaby> Ey wazza
15:33:11 <fataznbaby> 400 bucks?
15:34:00 <Tigger_> 400 pages
15:34:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984 is still using paper to write notes
15:34:00 <Tigger_> there is a new innovation for note taking: http://bamboo.wacom.com/introducing-bamboo-spark-write-on-paper-save-digitally/
15:34:32 <Tigger_> 400 pages
15:34:54 <Tigger_> Warren1984 is still using paper to write notes
15:35:00 <fataznbaby> Oh 400 pages
15:35:00 <fataznbaby> Interesting
15:35:12 <Tigger_> there is a new innovation for note taking: http://bamboo.wacom.com/introducing-bamboo-spark-write-on-paper-save-digitally/
15:35:49 <fataznbaby> Oh 400 pages
15:36:00 <fataznbaby> Interesting
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15:51:00 <Warren1984> yes Tigger_
15:51:00 <Warren1984> so it's all binded together
15:52:00 <Tigger_> and you record the lecture as well?
15:52:00 <Warren1984> and I also use MS onenote to organize the lecturers powerpoint slides and links to youtube that help explain things
15:52:00 <Warren1984> yes
15:52:07 <Warren1984> yes Tigger_
15:52:18 <Warren1984> so it's all binded together
15:52:36 <Tigger_> and you record the lecture as well?
15:53:00 <Warren1984> the problem is if the lecturer allows you to record
15:53:00 <Tigger_> do some not allow recordings?
15:53:00 <Warren1984> yeah
15:53:18 <Warren1984> and I also use MS onenote to organize the lecturers powerpoint slides and links to youtube that help explain things
15:53:22 <Warren1984> yes
15:53:37 <Warren1984> the problem is if the lecturer allows you to record
15:53:58 <Tigger_> do some not allow recordings?
15:54:00 <Warren1984> so hopefully I can record during my cert IV or otherwise I have to pull out
15:54:05 <Warren1984> yeah
15:54:30 <Warren1984> so hopefully I can record during my cert IV or otherwise I have to pull out
15:55:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor how was ur bath?
15:55:00 <doctor> hey warren?
15:55:00 <doctor> bath?
15:55:00 <Tigger_> hi doctor
15:55:00 <doctor> hi tigger
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15:55:29 <Warren1984> hey doctor how was ur bath?
15:55:43 <doctor> hey warren?
15:55:45 <doctor> bath?
15:56:04 <Tigger_> hi doctor
15:56:10 <doctor> hi tigger
15:58:00 <Warren1984> In this way, becoming Jewish is very much like becoming an American, a Moldavian or a Zimbabwean citizen. You can’t come to a country and declare yourself a member. It’s a two-way street: aside from you choosing your country, the government of that country has to decide to accept you.
15:59:00 <Warren1984> Similarly, if you choose Judaism, you also need Judaism to choose you. Like we said, a covenant is a two-way deal.
15:59:05 <Warren1984> In this way, becoming Jewish is very much like becoming an American, a Moldavian or a Zimbabwean citizen. You can’t come to a country and declare yourself a member. It’s a two-way street: aside from you choosing your country, the government of that country has to decide to accept you.
15:59:24 <Warren1984> Similarly, if you choose Judaism, you also need Judaism to choose you. Like we said, a covenant is a two-way deal.
16:01:00 <Warren1984> That’s one difference between this citizenship and citizenship of a modern country: You could always renounce your citizenship of a country. A Jew, however, is a member of an eternal covenant. Once in, there’s no way out
16:01:00 <Tigger_> Dating apps are increasing rates of STIs, according to the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.
16:01:00 <Tigger_> One of the UK's leading sexual health doctors says "apps have to invest more time in pushing a safe sex message".
16:01:00 <Tigger_> "You are able to turn over partners more quickly with a dating app and the quicker you change partners the more likely you are to get infections," Dr Peter Greenhouse has told Newsbeat.
16:01:00 <Tigger_> "What really worries me is that we are just at a tipping point for HIV."
16:02:00 <Warren1984> So the Jews would choose you based on what conditions?
16:02:07 <Warren1984> That’s one difference between this citizenship and citizenship of a modern country: You could always renounce your citizenship of a country. A Jew, however, is a member of an eternal covenant. Once in, there’s no way out
16:02:15 <Tigger_> Dating apps are increasing rates of STIs, according to the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.
16:02:15 <Tigger_> One of the UK's leading sexual health doctors says "apps have to invest more time in pushing a safe sex message".
16:02:15 <Tigger_> "You are able to turn over partners more quickly with a dating app and the quicker you change partners the more likely you are to get infections," Dr Peter Greenhouse has told Newsbeat.
16:02:15 <Tigger_> "What really worries me is that we are just at a tipping point for HIV."
16:02:42 <Warren1984> So the Jews would choose you based on what conditions?
16:03:00 <Tigger_> males must be circumcised
16:03:37 <Tigger_> males must be circumcised
16:05:00 <Tigger_> I am getting impatient for these ice cubes to freeze, seems to be taking so long
16:05:00 <Warren1984> well I already have that
16:05:24 <Tigger_> I am getting impatient for these ice cubes to freeze, seems to be taking so long
16:06:02 <Warren1984> well I already have that
16:07:00 <Tigger_> you have to be circumcised to be a male porn star too
16:07:26 <Tigger_> you have to be circumcised to be a male porn star too
16:19:00 <Tigger_> `topic If Shine was about an asian pianist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/wei-li-mother-murder-self-defence-court-told/7117316
16:19:36 <Tigger_> `topic If Shine was about an asian pianist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/wei-li-mother-murder-self-defence-court-told/7117316
16:27:00 <tisk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6eARWnipM&list=UUBZXEWbVE_dl66Hqtv3kHOQ
16:27:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: never leave my life mix 2016 new music (Jan 26, 2016) Length: 3:53 - Category: Music - 5 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
16:27:37 <tisk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6eARWnipM&list=UUBZXEWbVE_dl66Hqtv3kHOQ
16:27:41 <BlackDevil> Youtube: never leave my life mix 2016 new music (Jan 26, 2016) Length: 3:53 - Category: Music - 5 views views - 1 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
16:46:00 <Tigger_> `topic Bob Katter almost gets it right, with the help of the Jews: http://tinyurl.com/jvd6qnv
16:46:00 <Tigger_> | If Shine was about an asian pianist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/wei-li-mother-murder-self-defence-court-told/7117316
16:46:00 <BlackDevil> TinyURL: Redirects to: http://www.bobkatter.com.au/media/media-releases/view/626/katter-calls-for-cut-to-mass-migration-visas-to-be-in-line-with-job-creation/media-releases
16:46:24 <Tigger_> `topic Bob Katter almost gets it right, with the help of the Jews: http://tinyurl.com/jvd6qnv
16:46:24 <Tigger_> | If Shine was about an asian pianist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/wei-li-mother-murder-self-defence-court-told/7117316
16:46:26 <BlackDevil> TinyURL: Redirects to: http://www.bobkatter.com.au/media/media-releases/view/626/katter-calls-for-cut-to-mass-migration-visas-to-be-in-line-with-job-creation/media-releases
16:53:00 <Tigger_> hrmmm
16:54:00 <Tigger_> `topic Bob Katter almost gets it right, with the help of the Jews: http://tinyurl.com/jvd6qnv | If Shine was about an asian pianist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/wei-li-mother-murder-self-defence-court-told/7117316
16:54:00 <BlackDevil> TinyURL: Redirects to: http://www.bobkatter.com.au/media/media-releases/view/626/katter-calls-for-cut-to-mass-migration-visas-to-be-in-line-with-job-creation/media-releases
16:54:14 <Tigger_> hrmmm
16:54:35 <Tigger_> `topic Bob Katter almost gets it right, with the help of the Jews: http://tinyurl.com/jvd6qnv | If Shine was about an asian pianist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/wei-li-mother-murder-self-defence-court-told/7117316
16:54:35 <BlackDevil> TinyURL: Redirects to: http://www.bobkatter.com.au/media/media-releases/view/626/katter-calls-for-cut-to-mass-migration-visas-to-be-in-line-with-job-creation/media-releases
17:05:00 <Warren1984> Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Parts of Wreckage Found in Thailand Not From Missing Plane, Officials Say
17:05:00 <Warren1984> A large piece of curved metal found off the coast of southern Thailand does not belong to the plane, the Malaysian transport ministry said Tuesday. MH370 has been missing since March 2014.
17:06:09 <Warren1984> Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Parts of Wreckage Found in Thailand Not From Missing Plane, Officials Say
17:06:09 <Warren1984> A large piece of curved metal found off the coast of southern Thailand does not belong to the plane, the Malaysian transport ministry said Tuesday. MH370 has been missing since March 2014.
17:14:59 <Glenn> I'd be interested to know what it DOES belong to!
17:20:00 <Tigger_> it's like there are other missing planes floating about that were never reported
17:21:07 <Tigger_> it's like there are other missing planes floating about that were never reported
17:22:55 <Glenn> Curious. Those things are expensive so you'd think some-one would miss them.
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17:34:00 <President_Trump> loollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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17:35:00 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump
17:35:04 <President_Trump> loollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
17:35:42 <Tigger_> morning President_Trump
17:36:00 <President_Trump> trump reckons hes not doing the next debate
17:36:00 <Tigger_> the ratings will be almost nothing then
17:36:42 <President_Trump> trump reckons hes not doing the next debate
17:37:00 <President_Trump> he reckons he wont do it coz they wont donate any money to charity
17:37:00 <President_Trump> and he doesnt like megyn kelly
17:37:00 <Tigger_> they will relent, and send Megyn Kelly on another holiday
17:37:00 <President_Trump> bullshit
17:37:01 <Tigger_> the ratings will be almost nothing then
17:37:33 <President_Trump> he reckons he wont do it coz they wont donate any money to charity
17:37:37 <President_Trump> and he doesnt like megyn kelly
17:37:54 <Tigger_> they will relent, and send Megyn Kelly on another holiday
17:38:00 <President_Trump> trumps just going to look like a cry baby if he doesnt do the debate
17:38:10 <President_Trump> bullshit
17:38:45 <President_Trump> trumps just going to look like a cry baby if he doesnt do the debate
17:40:00 <Tigger_> “Why should the networks continue to get rich on the debates?” Trump told reporters at a news conference in Marshalltown. “Why do I have to make Fox rich?”
17:40:59 <Tigger_> “Why should the networks continue to get rich on the debates?” Trump told reporters at a news conference in Marshalltown. “Why do I have to make Fox rich?”
17:41:00 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZsWhzZWAAAlbyl.jpg:large
17:41:00 <President_Trump> from his twitter
17:41:42 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZsWhzZWAAAlbyl.jpg:large
17:41:59 <President_Trump> from his twitter
17:42:00 <Tigger_> I wonder if the veterans event will be televised
17:42:58 <Tigger_> I wonder if the veterans event will be televised
17:44:00 <Tigger_> Fox will just have to bring Rand Paul back
17:44:00 <President_Trump> someone will get a bump from the debate
17:44:00 <President_Trump> hes stupid not to do it
17:44:00 <President_Trump> as if fox are going to change the moderator
17:44:25 <Tigger_> Fox will just have to bring Rand Paul back
17:44:38 <President_Trump> someone will get a bump from the debate
17:44:42 <President_Trump> hes stupid not to do it
17:45:00 <President_Trump> unless he some how had the questions leaked to him
17:45:00 <President_Trump> and she was going to attack him
17:45:02 <President_Trump> as if fox are going to change the moderator
17:45:28 <President_Trump> unless he some how had the questions leaked to him
17:45:39 <President_Trump> and she was going to attack him
17:46:00 <Tigger_> Fox will make their donation, it's just his way of showing them who's the boss
17:46:31 <Tigger_> Fox will make their donation, it's just his way of showing them who's the boss
17:47:00 <President_Trump> i doubt it, all their advertising spots would have been booked in advance, makes no difference to them
17:47:00 <tisk> oh President_Trump fucken bitch bitch which what witch which watt
17:47:00 <tisk> https://youtu.be/ZzrRSANyKP8
17:47:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: some fuck of bitch 2016 vocal techno new music video (Jan 21, 2016) Length: 2:36 - Category: Music - 32 views views - likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
17:47:59 <President_Trump> i doubt it, all their advertising spots would have been booked in advance, makes no difference to them
17:48:18 <tisk> oh President_Trump fucken bitch bitch which what witch which watt
17:48:19 <tisk> https://youtu.be/ZzrRSANyKP8
17:48:23 <BlackDevil> Youtube: some fuck of bitch 2016 vocal techno new music video (Jan 21, 2016) Length: 2:36 - Category: Music - 32 views views - likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
17:51:00 <President_Trump> i bet the moderators ask no trump questions, and the candidates agree amongst themselves not to mention him, its going to backfire for trump
17:51:00 <Tigger_> in any case, debates don't actually change opinions very much, same way that in sports events nobody really changes which team they support
17:52:00 <President_Trump> it will be christie, rubio and cruz arguing for tens of minutes on end about who said what and when
17:52:11 <President_Trump> i bet the moderators ask no trump questions, and the candidates agree amongst themselves not to mention him, its going to backfire for trump
17:52:20 <Tigger_> in any case, debates don't actually change opinions very much, same way that in sports events nobody really changes which team they support
17:53:00 <President_Trump> it would be funny if trump had organised last minute for CNN to televise his rally
17:53:00 <President_Trump> as direct competition
17:53:05 <President_Trump> it will be christie, rubio and cruz arguing for tens of minutes on end about who said what and when
17:53:52 <President_Trump> it would be funny if trump had organised last minute for CNN to televise his rally
17:53:55 <President_Trump> as direct competition
17:54:00 <Tigger_> heh
17:54:00 <tisk> https://youtu.be/vbi3siltMSY
17:54:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: fucken slut extended mix 2016 new music (Jan 20, 2016) Length: 3:26 - Category: Music - 146 views views - 3 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
17:55:06 <Tigger_> heh
17:55:08 <tisk> https://youtu.be/vbi3siltMSY
17:55:12 <BlackDevil> Youtube: fucken slut extended mix 2016 new music (Jan 20, 2016) Length: 3:26 - Category: Music - 146 views views - 3 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
17:56:00 <Tigger_> tisk, you should call it "The Slut Song"
17:56:44 <Tigger_> tisk, you should call it "The Slut Song"
17:57:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/the-rogue-army-handing-over-oil-money-and-territory-to-is/news-story/703a8d82542e95e032828e0f590b171b
17:57:43 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/the-rogue-army-handing-over-oil-money-and-territory-to-is/news-story/703a8d82542e95e032828e0f590b171b
17:59:00 <Tigger_> With the costs of each dental treatment breaching €10,000, the estimated cost for the migrant invasion in teeth alone could be many billions of Euros, reports the Stuttgarter Nachrichten. In fact, if just 10 per cent of Germany’s total number of migrants claim for dental work, the bill would easily exceed €1bn.
17:59:00 <Tigger_> http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/26/dentist-association-warns-treating-migrants-terrible-teeth-will-cost-taxpayer-billions/
17:59:53 <Tigger_> With the costs of each dental treatment breaching €10,000, the estimated cost for the migrant invasion in teeth alone could be many billions of Euros, reports the Stuttgarter Nachrichten. In fact, if just 10 per cent of Germany’s total number of migrants claim for dental work, the bill would easily exceed €1bn.
17:59:55 <Tigger_> http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/26/dentist-association-warns-treating-migrants-terrible-teeth-will-cost-taxpayer-billions/
18:00:00 <President_Trump> wow denti$t$ are going to cash in
18:00:00 <President_Trump> they will probably get about $10k per rapeugee
18:00:58 <President_Trump> wow denti$t$ are going to cash in
18:01:14 <President_Trump> they will probably get about $10k per rapeugee
18:03:00 <Tigger_> not exactly, that'll be the pretext to import thousands of cheap Indian dentists to solve the newly created skill shortage
18:03:00 <Tigger_> like the way that real estate agents don't get rich in a property boom, because suddenly everyone is a real estate agent
18:03:34 <Tigger_> not exactly, that'll be the pretext to import thousands of cheap Indian dentists to solve the newly created skill shortage
18:04:00 <ajnin> hello
18:04:00 <President_Trump> is that true? the established agents would make a killing you'd think
18:04:03 <Tigger_> like the way that real estate agents don't get rich in a property boom, because suddenly everyone is a real estate agent
18:04:34 <ajnin> hello
18:04:45 <President_Trump> is that true? the established agents would make a killing you'd think
18:06:00 <Tigger_> a few would be, but otherwise it follows the law of zero profit condition: http://primary.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2005/08/bubblelusions.html
18:06:00 <Tigger_> hi ajnin
18:07:14 <Tigger_> a few would be, but otherwise it follows the law of zero profit condition: http://primary.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2005/08/bubblelusions.html
18:07:19 <Tigger_> hi ajnin
18:08:00 <President_Trump> that is a broker system though
18:08:46 <President_Trump> that is a broker system though
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18:15:00 <tisk> https://soundcloud.com/alisid/its-what
18:16:00 <Tigger_> also if the rapeugees were sent home, the Indian dentists would remain
18:16:14 <tisk> https://soundcloud.com/alisid/its-what
18:17:17 <Tigger_> also if the rapeugees were sent home, the Indian dentists would remain
18:18:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqMzBY9IUps
18:18:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: ISIS Suicide bomber fail ... (Jan 16, 2016) Length: 0:06 - Category: People & Blogs - 1,272 views - 5 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
18:18:00 <Tigger_> suicide bomber on a skateboard
18:19:01 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqMzBY9IUps
18:19:05 <BlackDevil> Youtube: ISIS Suicide bomber fail ... (Jan 16, 2016) Length: 0:06 - Category: People & Blogs - 1,272 views - 5 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
18:19:08 <Tigger_> suicide bomber on a skateboard
18:33:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP4CM3B5t3g
18:33:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Techno Music Mix || New Techno Hits Playlist (Jun 29, 2014) Length: 01:58:05 - Category: Music - 1,805,784 views - 6,128 likes (90.3%), 662 dislikes (9.7%)
18:34:04 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP4CM3B5t3g
18:34:08 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Techno Music Mix || New Techno Hits Playlist (Jun 29, 2014) Length: 01:58:05 - Category: Music - 1,805,784 views - 6,128 likes (90.3%), 662 dislikes (9.7%)
18:36:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqMzBY9IUps
18:36:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: ISIS Suicide bomber fail ... (Jan 16, 2016) Length: 0:06 - Category: People & Blogs - 1,282 views - 5 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
18:36:53 <Tigger_> Warren1984, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqMzBY9IUps
18:36:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: ISIS Suicide bomber fail ... (Jan 16, 2016) Length: 0:06 - Category: People & Blogs - 1,282 views - 5 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
18:43:00 <supLoser> Sup
18:43:55 Join: supLoser ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
18:44:00 <supLoser> Hey gook wife
18:44:00 <supLoser> Hows things
18:44:09 <supLoser> Sup
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18:44:32 Mode: (by ChanOP) +h Ethanol
18:44:39 <supLoser> Hey gook wife
18:44:45 <supLoser> Hows things
18:45:00 <supLoser> Ey
18:45:00 <supLoser> This text is in blue:-)
18:46:00 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
18:46:04 <supLoser> Ey
18:46:23 <supLoser> This text is in blue:-)
18:47:02 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
18:48:00 <supLoser> when is prom coming back loser
18:48:59 <supLoser> when is prom coming back loser
18:49:00 <Tigger_> prom hears your prayers
18:49:41 <Tigger_> prom hears your prayers
18:51:00 <President_Trump> in the next two weeks
18:51:52 <President_Trump> in the next two weeks
18:52:00 <supLoser> Cool story
18:52:00 <President_Trump> cool question
18:52:00 <supLoser> Cool
18:52:42 <supLoser> Cool story
18:52:49 <President_Trump> cool question
18:53:11 <supLoser> Cool
18:55:00 <supLoser> Cool story president_trump mate
18:55:00 <President_Trump> cool question
18:55:00 <supLoser> Cool story
18:55:36 <supLoser> Cool story president_trump mate
18:55:46 <President_Trump> cool question
18:55:52 <supLoser> Cool story
18:57:00 <President_Trump> u got ya skull cap on mate?
18:57:00 <supLoser> Any more stories loser
18:57:00 <supLoser> No
18:57:00 <supLoser> Freeballing
18:57:00 <supLoser> U
18:57:00 <President_Trump> no mate i got a pile of them in the cupboard from jews ive bashed
18:57:26 <President_Trump> u got ya skull cap on mate?
18:57:33 <supLoser> Any more stories loser
18:57:37 <supLoser> No
18:57:49 <supLoser> Freeballing
18:57:53 <supLoser> U
18:58:00 <supLoser> Do u wear their kippas?
18:58:00 <President_Trump> no i wank into them
18:58:21 <President_Trump> no mate i got a pile of them in the cupboard from jews ive bashed
18:58:43 <supLoser> Do u wear their kippas?
18:59:14 <President_Trump> no i wank into them
18:59:18 <Glenn> Poms fry them for breakfast.
19:00:00 <supLoser> President_trump do u wank into ur turban mate?
19:01:20 <supLoser> President_trump do u wank into ur turban mate?
19:06:00 <President_Trump> when will u get a highly respected job like a school teacher supLoser?
19:07:00 <supLoser> Tomorrow bruh
19:07:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is it good to put 5.5GB of 192kbps quality information onto CD-R's?
19:07:00 <supLoser> Lozer
19:07:00 <Warren1984> so when I drive to and from Thornlie TAFE I can hear these over and over
19:07:08 <President_Trump> when will u get a highly respected job like a school teacher supLoser?
19:07:38 <supLoser> Tomorrow bruh
19:07:55 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is it good to put 5.5GB of 192kbps quality information onto CD-R's?
19:08:00 <Warren1984> and commit them to memory
19:08:00 <Warren1984> it's about 1 hr drive there and 1 hr drive back
19:08:00 <Tigger_> I think 5.5gb of Tafe lectures are best stored in "Recycle Bin"
19:08:00 <President_Trump> why dont you buy a $20 mp3 player?
19:08:00 <Warren1984> don't need that in my car
19:08:00 <supLoser> President_Trump is a lozer
19:08:01 <supLoser> Lozer
19:08:22 <Warren1984> so when I drive to and from Thornlie TAFE I can hear these over and over
19:08:28 <Warren1984> and commit them to memory
19:08:47 <Warren1984> it's about 1 hr drive there and 1 hr drive back
19:08:54 <Tigger_> I think 5.5gb of Tafe lectures are best stored in "Recycle Bin"
19:08:59 <President_Trump> why dont you buy a $20 mp3 player?
19:09:00 <Warren1984> why though Tigger_
19:09:00 <President_Trump> upload them so we can hear them Warren1984
19:09:00 <Warren1984> u sure you will listen to it all?
19:09:00 <President_Trump> i will
19:09:00 <President_Trump> i am a highly respected school teacher
19:09:14 <Warren1984> don't need that in my car
19:09:22 <supLoser> President_Trump is a lozer
19:09:24 <Warren1984> why though Tigger_
19:09:36 <President_Trump> upload them so we can hear them Warren1984
19:09:54 <Warren1984> u sure you will listen to it all?
19:10:00 <Tigger_> President_Trump is going to work for b1rd
19:10:02 <President_Trump> i will
19:10:08 <President_Trump> i am a highly respected school teacher
19:10:24 <Tigger_> President_Trump is going to work for b1rd
19:11:00 <Tigger_> be careful of what you play in your car
19:11:00 <Tigger_> SHERMAN, TX - A man accused of watching porn inside his vehicle in a public parking lot in Sherman has pleaded guilty. Police say it happened just before 11 p.m. Sunday outside Wal-Mart on U.S. Highway 82.
19:11:00 <Tigger_> Officers say they arrested 25-year-old Cody Haston after a witness reported seeing him in the parking lot with a porn movie playing in his vehicle. Police say they found at least 2 X-rated movies in Haston`s vehicle, and the in-dash DVD player was on.
19:12:00 <President_Trump> whats the diff between x and r rated?
19:12:00 <Warren1984> takes ages to burn a CD
19:12:10 <Tigger_> be careful of what you play in your car
19:12:12 <Tigger_> SHERMAN, TX - A man accused of watching porn inside his vehicle in a public parking lot in Sherman has pleaded guilty. Police say it happened just before 11 p.m. Sunday outside Wal-Mart on U.S. Highway 82.
19:12:12 <Tigger_> Officers say they arrested 25-year-old Cody Haston after a witness reported seeing him in the parking lot with a porn movie playing in his vehicle. Police say they found at least 2 X-rated movies in Haston`s vehicle, and the in-dash DVD player was on.
19:12:51 <President_Trump> whats the diff between x and r rated?
19:13:04 <Warren1984> takes ages to burn a CD
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19:15:00 <Tigger_> so they still make CD-Rs?
19:15:00 <Ethanol> You don't see genitalia or penetration in R rated pornos.
19:15:36 <Tigger_> so they still make CD-Rs?
19:15:53 <Ethanol> You don't see genitalia or penetration in R rated pornos.
19:16:00 <President_Trump> that sounds boring
19:16:00 <Tigger_> I don't think they make R rated porn anymore, the internet has killed that market
19:17:00 <President_Trump> that sounds boring
19:17:07 <Tigger_> I don't think they make R rated porn anymore, the internet has killed that market
19:23:00 <Tigger_> for once I support SJWs: http://www.mediaite.com/online/u-of-oregon-debates-removing-mlk-quote-for-not-being-inclusive-enough/
19:24:00 <Tigger_> When the student union considered the question, some students asked, “Does the MLK quote represent us today?” The problem wasn’t so much the message, but the fact that it only focused on racial diversity instead of gender identity.
19:24:00 <Tigger_> “Diversity is so much more than race,” said one sophomore architecture major. “Obviously race still plays a big role. But there are people who identify differently in gender and all sorts of things like that.”
19:24:13 <Tigger_> for once I support SJWs: http://www.mediaite.com/online/u-of-oregon-debates-removing-mlk-quote-for-not-being-inclusive-enough/
19:24:39 <Tigger_> When the student union considered the question, some students asked, “Does the MLK quote represent us today?” The problem wasn’t so much the message, but the fact that it only focused on racial diversity instead of gender identity.
19:24:39 <Tigger_> “Diversity is so much more than race,” said one sophomore architecture major. “Obviously race still plays a big role. But there are people who identify differently in gender and all sorts of things like that.”
19:45:00 <supLoser> Cool story
19:46:16 <supLoser> Cool story
19:48:00 <Ethanol> That report would have been satire 5 years ago
19:48:55 <Ethanol> That report would have been satire 5 years ago
19:51:00 <Ethanol> Claims that men will not vote for Hillary are wrong. This guy supports Hillary: http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/rupaul_005_wenn5426145.jpg
19:51:00 <Tigger_> Hillary is the natural candidate to represent black trannies
19:51:27 <Ethanol> Claims that men will not vote for Hillary are wrong. This guy supports Hillary: http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/rupaul_005_wenn5426145.jpg
19:52:23 <Tigger_> Hillary is the natural candidate to represent black trannies
19:56:00 <Tigger_> I think what has happened in the last few years is that formerly the far fringe freaks were largely in isolation, due to their low numbers, but social media has allowed them to seek each other out and become a movement
19:57:14 <Tigger_> I think what has happened in the last few years is that formerly the far fringe freaks were largely in isolation, due to their low numbers, but social media has allowed them to seek each other out and become a movement
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19:59:00 <Lish> Howdy doodie
19:59:00 <Tigger_> hi Lish
19:59:00 <Lish> Sup peeps
19:59:30 <Glenn> hI Lish! :)
19:59:37 <Lish> Howdy doodie
19:59:41 <Tigger_> hi Lish
19:59:43 <Glenn> :))
19:59:45 <Lish> Sup peeps
20:00:00 <Lish> It's raining here
20:00:00 <Lish> It's nice and dark and gloomy and cool
20:00:00 <Lish> I kind of want to go to bed
20:00:00 <Tigger_> Lish, I found you a bargain: http://www.estrading.com.au/kitchenaid-ksm160-artisan-empire-red-mixer-5ksm160psaer_1036822/
20:00:17 <Glenn> nOT MUCH... BEEN SORTA QUIET.
20:00:22 <Glenn> eeerrrkkkk!'
20:00:33 <Lish> It's raining here
20:00:38 <Lish> It's nice and dark and gloomy and cool
20:00:45 <Lish> I kind of want to go to bed
20:00:57 <Glenn> Melbourne supposed to be getting it, but OK here.
20:01:00 <Lish> That is cheap
20:01:00 <Lish> Oh yeah my husband said traffic was bad when he went to Geelong today
20:01:05 <Tigger_> Lish, I found you a bargain: http://www.estrading.com.au/kitchenaid-ksm160-artisan-empire-red-mixer-5ksm160psaer_1036822/
20:01:23 <Glenn> Was in Melbourne today... trafficv awful around Tullamarine.
20:01:24 <Lish> That is cheap
20:01:38 <Lish> Oh yeah my husband said traffic was bad when he went to Geelong today
20:01:59 <Glenn> Yeah... he would have copped it too.
20:02:00 <Lish> Ozone stinks like poo
20:02:00 <Ozone> its true
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20:02:24 <Lish> Ozone stinks like poo
20:02:46 <Glenn> I think it may have been caused by the Police invetigating the ute which went off the bridge on the Westyern Ring Road.
20:03:00 <Lish> Oh yeah I heard about that
20:03:09 <Ozone> its true
20:03:25 <Glenn> That got his attention.
20:04:00 <Tigger_> they were racing
20:04:05 <Lish> Oh yeah I heard about that
20:05:03 <Glenn> Drag racing, lost it, went airbourne after missing the bridge. Estimated speed before take off greater than 150kph.
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20:05:04 <Tigger_> they were racing
20:05:17 <Glenn> That's the one.
20:06:00 <Lish> I wonder who won
20:07:23 <Lish> I wonder who won
20:08:00 <Tigger_> the one who didn't drive off the bridge
20:08:26 <Tigger_> the one who didn't drive off the bridge
20:09:21 <Glenn> :P
20:10:22 <Glenn> Saw pictures of the Ute... Police must've figured out what it was from what was left of the rear number plate. Not much left otherwise.
20:16:00 <Lish> I am sleepy
20:17:00 <Tigger_> so am I
20:17:23 <Lish> I am sleepy
20:17:31 <Tigger_> so am I
20:23:00 <Lish> I'm trying to decide if I'll dial into 30mins of s meeting
20:23:00 <Lish> I can't attend all because of a release at 9pm
20:23:54 <Lish> I'm trying to decide if I'll dial into 30mins of s meeting
20:24:07 <Lish> I can't attend all because of a release at 9pm
20:27:42 <Glenn> Sit down, relax, peel the top off a tinnie, and enjoy :)
20:53:00 <Lish> Tigger what's the dollar doing
20:53:00 <Lish> I haven't checked in days
20:53:52 <Lish> Tigger what's the dollar doing
20:53:57 <Lish> I haven't checked in days
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20:56:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yixtgPZ0a-0
20:56:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ukraine War - Russian BUK missile complex that shot down Malaysia flight MH17 (Apr 27, 2015) Length: 3:17 - Category: News & Politics - 504 views views - 19 likes (73.1%), 7 dislikes (26.9%)
20:56:56 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yixtgPZ0a-0
20:57:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ukraine War - Russian BUK missile complex that shot down Malaysia flight MH17 (Apr 27, 2015) Length: 3:17 - Category: News & Politics - 504 views views - 19 likes (73.1%), 7 dislikes (26.9%)
20:57:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGtuJdStEKA
20:57:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Russia's New Buk M3 'Kill All' Missile to Enter Service in 2016 (Aug 25, 2015) Length: 2:07 - Category: Science & Technology - 7,782 views - 31 likes (91.2%), 3 dislikes (8.8%)
20:57:38 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGtuJdStEKA
20:57:43 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Russia's New Buk M3 'Kill All' Missile to Enter Service in 2016 (Aug 25, 2015) Length: 2:07 - Category: Science & Technology - 7,782 views - 31 likes (91.2%), 3 dislikes (8.8%)
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21:33:00 <circle> type 'third reich flag' into google
21:33:00 <circle> images
21:33:00 <circle> not one that comes up on the first page is their flag
21:33:59 <circle> type 'third reich flag' into google
21:34:02 <circle> images
21:34:10 <circle> not one that comes up on the first page is their flag
21:35:00 <President_Trump> circle i got a frozen coke from maccas today
21:35:00 <President_Trump> the drive thru is like a goddess lottery
21:35:00 <President_Trump> agree?
21:35:00 <circle> haha
21:35:00 <circle> 100%
21:35:00 <circle> it really is
21:35:00 <circle> always disappointed when i don't get a qt
21:35:33 <President_Trump> circle i got a frozen coke from maccas today
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21:35:41 <President_Trump> the drive thru is like a goddess lottery
21:35:43 <President_Trump> agree?
21:36:00 <circle> next time you get handed your food from a qt say 'thanks sweetheart'
21:36:00 <President_Trump> lol
21:36:00 <President_Trump> grab their hand when they give u the change
21:36:00 <President_Trump> pull them out the window and into the car
21:36:03 <circle> haha
21:36:04 <circle> 100%
21:36:06 <circle> it really is
21:36:17 <circle> always disappointed when i don't get a qt
21:36:38 <circle> next time you get handed your food from a qt say 'thanks sweetheart'
21:37:00 <circle> hahaha
21:37:01 <President_Trump> lol
21:37:15 <President_Trump> grab their hand when they give u the change
21:37:21 <President_Trump> pull them out the window and into the car
21:38:09 <circle> hahaha
21:55:00 <Lish> Weirdos
21:55:44 <Lish> Weirdos
22:03:00 <President_Trump> u should do it circle
22:03:53 <President_Trump> u should do it circle
22:04:00 <circle> no
22:04:00 <circle> im going to chat up a goddess soon tho
22:04:00 <circle> a cute lil age of consent princess
22:04:27 <circle> no
22:04:37 <circle> im going to chat up a goddess soon tho
22:04:41 <circle> a cute lil age of consent princess
22:05:00 <President_Trump> how old?
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22:05:29 <President_Trump> how old?
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22:06:51 Mode: (by ChanOP) +h Ethanol
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22:13:00 <circle> 13 is ideal President_Trump
22:13:00 <circle> but the law says 16
22:13:00 <circle> so gotta stay there
22:13:00 <President_Trump> i think u have to be 16 to work at mcdonalds so perfect
22:13:30 <circle> 13 is ideal President_Trump
22:13:34 <circle> but the law says 16
22:13:35 <circle> so gotta stay there
22:14:12 <President_Trump> i think u have to be 16 to work at mcdonalds so perfect
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22:26:00 <erlich> lol, the kid is 22 and still forced to get piano lessons
22:26:45 <erlich> lol, the kid is 22 and still forced to get piano lessons
22:33:00 <erlich> Swwedes are paying for ISIS fighters coming back to find jobs etc etc
22:33:00 <erlich> talk about cuck
22:34:16 <erlich> Swwedes are paying for ISIS fighters coming back to find jobs etc etc
22:34:21 <erlich> talk about cuck
22:37:00 <circle> we should just execute people who go to ISIS, as well as their families
22:37:49 <circle> we should just execute people who go to ISIS, as well as their families
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23:34:00 <Ethanol> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pqTO7GOjOuU/Vn3vwtMMgbI/AAAAAAAA34Q/iuOf4-MeXMM/w530-h558-p-rw/15%2B-%2B1
23:35:22 <Ethanol> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pqTO7GOjOuU/Vn3vwtMMgbI/AAAAAAAA34Q/iuOf4-MeXMM/w530-h558-p-rw/15%2B-%2B1
23:38:00 <xm> doesnt work for me
23:38:00 <xm> is that an accidental paste
23:38:35 <xm> doesnt work for me
23:38:51 <xm> is that an accidental paste
23:39:00 <Marttin> have you seen the video: gay man touches vagina for first time?
23:40:00 <Marttin> the one that shouts inmediately made me think of GS
23:40:17 <Marttin> have you seen the video: gay man touches vagina for first time?
23:40:56 <Marttin> the one that shouts inmediately made me think of GS
23:43:00 <xm> GS is pure gay
23:43:00 <xm> although he is paying a lot of money to see a woman for a few hours
23:43:00 <xm> (Madonna)
23:43:50 <xm> GS is pure gay
23:44:00 <xm> what a whore
23:44:17 <xm> although he is paying a lot of money to see a woman for a few hours
23:44:21 <xm> (Madonna)
23:44:29 <xm> what a whore
23:45:00 <Marttin> lol
23:45:00 <Marttin> im excited with prom comeback
23:45:00 <Marttin> i wonder what will he think of Prom 2, circle
23:45:26 <Marttin> lol
23:45:54 <Marttin> im excited with prom comeback
23:46:00 <xm> what prom what where?
23:46:16 <Marttin> i wonder what will he think of Prom 2, circle
23:46:51 <xm> what prom what where?
23:48:00 <Marttin> brett had a vision the other day, he says that prom is coming back within 2 weeks
23:49:00 <xm> ROFL
23:49:00 <xm> a vision
23:49:00 <xm> hahahahah
23:49:21 <Marttin> brett had a vision the other day, he says that prom is coming back within 2 weeks
23:49:58 <xm> ROFL
23:50:01 <xm> a vision
23:50:02 <xm> hahahahah
23:51:00 <Marttin> sanctus prom can make appearances whenever he wants, Brett is very lucky he choose him instead of me
23:51:27 <Marttin> sanctus prom can make appearances whenever he wants, Brett is very lucky he choose him instead of me
23:53:00 <President_Trump> i poured myself some coffee and then the phone rang, and when i came back prom had drank it
23:53:28 <President_Trump> i poured myself some coffee and then the phone rang, and when i came back prom had drank it
23:54:00 <Marttin> LOL
23:54:00 <xm> and the window was left open with the breeze blowing on the curtains?
23:54:00 <xm> prom works in mysterious ways
23:54:47 <Marttin> LOL
23:54:47 <xm> and the window was left open with the breeze blowing on the curtains?
23:54:50 <xm> prom works in mysterious ways
23:55:00 <President_Trump> and my toast had been cut up into the letters L O S T
23:55:37 <President_Trump> and my toast had been cut up into the letters L O S T
23:59:00 <JetstreamSam> LOOOOLLLLL
23:59:00 <JetstreamSam> LOST
23:59:43 <JetstreamSam> LOOOOLLLLL
23:59:46 <JetstreamSam> LOST
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