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01:00 <circle> do you guys have a pref between zero and diet?
01:00 <Tigger_> zero for me
01:00 <circle> i think they both taste pretty bad
01:00 <circle> i don't exactly know the difference though
01:00 <circle> just that i'm always disappointed regardless of which i get
01:13 <circle> do you guys have a pref between zero and diet?
01:39 <Tigger_> zero for me
01:54 <circle> i think they both taste pretty bad
02:01 <circle> i don't exactly know the difference though
02:06 <circle> just that i'm always disappointed regardless of which i get
03:00 <Tigger_> some people seem to be more aware of the difference than others
03:00 <circle> hmm, interesting
03:00 <Tigger_> fortunately I'm not that sensitive to it, at least if I don't have real coke for awhile
03:00 <xm> you wont want to try normal coke again then
03:24 <Tigger_> some people seem to be more aware of the difference than others
03:35 <circle> hmm, interesting
03:44 <Tigger_> fortunately I'm not that sensitive to it, at least if I don't have real coke for awhile
03:58 <xm> you wont want to try normal coke again then
04:00 <circle> cola just isnt that good
04:00 <circle> its ok
04:14 <circle> cola just isnt that good
04:15 <circle> its ok
06:00 <Tigger_> Dr. Pepper is the official #pd drink
06:00 <President_Trump> coke
06:32 <Tigger_> Dr. Pepper is the official #pd drink
07:00 <circle> i dont know about it
07:00 <circle> what about mountain doo
07:00 <circle> dew
07:00 <circle> gotta pronounce it doo tho
07:00 <circle> its good
07:00 <Tigger_> I don't mind a Mountain Dew now and again
07:00 <President_Trump> no one drinks that in here
07:10 <President_Trump> coke
07:17 <circle> i dont know about it
07:20 <circle> what about mountain doo
07:21 <circle> dew
07:27 <circle> gotta pronounce it doo tho
07:29 <circle> its good
07:59 <Tigger_> I don't mind a Mountain Dew now and again
08:00 <President_Trump> no one drinks that in here
08:00 <Tigger_> though I understand the American version is actually an energy drink
08:15 <Tigger_> though I understand the American version is actually an energy drink
09:00 <circle> energy drinks taste so good
09:00 <circle> mother is beautiful
09:00 <Tigger_> I've only had one in my life
09:30 <circle> energy drinks taste so good
09:39 <circle> mother is beautiful
09:56 <Tigger_> I've only had one in my life
10:00 <circle> one mother or one energy ddrink?
10:00 <Tigger_> one energy drink
10:00 <circle> ah
10:00 <circle> get a mother
10:00 <circle> you will like it
10:00 <Tigger_> it tasted like Mountain Dew
10:00 <circle> mountain dew has a slightly energy drinky taste
10:00 <circle> more complex than traditional soft drinks
10:23 <circle> one mother or one energy ddrink?
10:30 <Tigger_> one energy drink
10:36 <circle> ah
10:38 <circle> get a mother
10:42 <circle> you will like it
10:42 <Tigger_> it tasted like Mountain Dew
10:52 <circle> mountain dew has a slightly energy drinky taste
10:56 <circle> more complex than traditional soft drinks
11:00 <President_Trump> in america mountain doo has caffeine in it
11:00 <anotherirc3r> hi circle!
11:00 <anotherirc3r> i missed you
11:00 <circle> haha President_Trump 
11:00 <circle> coke has caffeine in it here
11:00 <circle> prob mountain doo too
11:21 <President_Trump> in america mountain doo has caffeine in it
11:22 <anotherirc3r> hi circle!
11:25 <anotherirc3r> i missed you
11:41 <circle> haha President_Trump
11:46 <circle> coke has caffeine in it here
11:49 <circle> prob mountain doo too
12:00 <xm> yes, Dr Pepper never fails
12:00 <xm> the one thing everyone can agree with Lish over
12:39 <xm> yes, Dr Pepper never fails
12:47 <xm> the one thing everyone can agree with Lish over
21:00 <circle> Tigger_ did you know that adultery means racemixing?
22:05 <circle> Tigger_ did you know that adultery means racemixing?
23:17 Quit: President_Trump ([email protected]) Quit:
24:00 <Tigger_> I have heard that interpretation, since the Ten Commandments already covers the traditional interpretation with "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife"
25:11 <Tigger_> I have heard that interpretation, since the Ten Commandments already covers the traditional interpretation with "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife"
26:00 <circle> Adulterate - debase, make impure by adding a foreign or inferior substance
26:00 <circle> it's incredible the truth has been covered up for so long
26:51 <circle> Adulterate - debase, make impure by adding a foreign or inferior substance
27:00 <xm> that had more to do with divorcing their Israeli wives for younger pagan foreign women
27:00 <circle> european ones?
27:00 <circle> would you accept your daughter marrying a jew Tigger_?
27:05 <circle> it's incredible the truth has been covered up for so long
27:30 <xm> that had more to do with divorcing their Israeli wives for younger pagan foreign women
27:53 <circle> european ones?
28:00 <Tigger_> no, but it would never happen anyway
28:00 <circle> exactly
28:11 <circle> would you accept your daughter marrying a jew Tigger_?
28:20 Quit: yeana ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
28:31 <Tigger_> no, but it would never happen anyway
28:51 <circle> exactly
29:00 <circle> what's the best way to raise a girl so she never rebels, and only becomes the perfect aryan woman?
29:34 <circle> what's the best way to raise a girl so she never rebels, and only becomes the perfect aryan woman?
30:00 <Tigger_> under normal circumstances girls are attracted to the types that their fathers are
30:00 <circle> why do so many girls rebel?
30:29 <Tigger_> under normal circumstances girls are attracted to the types that their fathers are
30:57 <circle> why do so many girls rebel?
31:00 <Tigger_> because of lack of stable father figure
31:00 <circle> define stable
31:46 <Tigger_> because of lack of stable father figure
31:56 <circle> define stable
32:00 <Tigger_> if the father is either A. absent, or B. omega, she will act out
32:00 <circle> hmm
32:00 <circle> and daddy issues is slightly differerent to rebelling isn't it?
32:00 <circle> but equally as bad
32:12 <Tigger_> if the father is either A. absent, or B. omega, she will act out
32:58 <circle> hmm
33:00 <circle> isn't that caused by a girl not being loved by her father enough?
33:00 <Tigger_> daddy issues are usually due to him being omega in some fashion
33:08 <circle> and daddy issues is slightly differerent to rebelling isn't it?
33:10 <circle> but equally as bad
33:18 <circle> isn't that caused by a girl not being loved by her father enough?
33:35 <Tigger_> daddy issues are usually due to him being omega in some fashion
34:00 <circle> no
34:00 <circle> well, perhaps
34:00 <circle> i mean, with daddy issues, a girl seeks out partners to be her father
34:43 <circle> no
34:51 <circle> well, perhaps
34:58 <circle> i mean, with daddy issues, a girl seeks out partners to be her father
35:00 <Tigger_> no, that's normal
35:00 <circle> meaning few of her relationships will have any stability
35:00 <circle> no, a girl might be attracted to the type of man her father is, but daddy issues is seeking a partner to BE the role of father
35:00 <circle> that's the very definition of it
35:00 <circle> and i think it is caused by a father not being with his daughter enough
35:00 <Tigger_> daddy issues are the girl acting up to try and get the attention and discipline of her father
35:18 <Tigger_> no, that's normal
35:18 <circle> meaning few of her relationships will have any stability
35:42 <circle> no, a girl might be attracted to the type of man her father is, but daddy issues is seeking a partner to BE the role of father
35:45 <circle> that's the very definition of it
35:59 <circle> and i think it is caused by a father not being with his daughter enough
36:00 <Tigger_> "Look at me dad, I'm kissing a nigger!"
36:00 <circle> that's rebelling
36:00 <circle> different to daddy issues
36:00 <Tigger_> it's how I define it
36:06 <Tigger_> daddy issues are the girl acting up to try and get the attention and discipline of her father
36:14 <Tigger_> "Look at me dad, I'm kissing a nigger!"
36:18 <circle> that's rebelling
36:26 <circle> different to daddy issues
36:37 <Tigger_> it's how I define it
37:00 <circle> that's not a good definition, you shouldn't redefine concepts. the concept of daddy issues is a nuanced and interesting one. rebelling is seperate but equally bad.
37:00 <circle> on the topic of rebelling, i've heard that many girls with strict fathers rebel against it. why do they do that?
37:36 <circle> that's not a good definition, you shouldn't redefine concepts. the concept of daddy issues is a nuanced and interesting one. rebelling is seperate but equally bad.
38:00 <Tigger_> because their fathers are really weak omegas
38:02 <circle> on the topic of rebelling, i've heard that many girls with strict fathers rebel against it. why do they do that?
38:18 <Tigger_> because their fathers are really weak omegas
39:00 <circle> how?
39:00 <circle> you cannot rebel against something weak, it's not really rebellion at all
39:00 <circle> girls usually rebel against a strict father
39:00 <Tigger_> chucking tantrums, threats, and violence by the father are a sure sign that he's weak
39:21 <circle> how?
39:32 <circle> you cannot rebel against something weak, it's not really rebellion at all
39:39 <circle> girls usually rebel against a strict father
40:00 <circle> what can a father do to avoid this?
40:06 <Tigger_> chucking tantrums, threats, and violence by the father are a sure sign that he's weak
41:00 <Tigger_> by being a good role model, respectable, and strong when necessary, and to set clear moral guidelines
41:05 <circle> what can a father do to avoid this?
41:44 <Tigger_> by being a good role model, respectable, and strong when necessary, and to set clear moral guidelines
42:00 <circle> interesting
42:00 <circle> good answer
42:00 <Tigger_> morality can only really be taught by example, not as theory
42:00 <circle> how do you stop her becoming a feminist, anti-racist, refugee advocate, or some sort of leftist in general? 
42:49 <circle> interesting
42:50 <circle> good answer
43:00 <circle> even if she never rebels, she could easily adopt a centre-left viewpoint
43:00 <Tigger_> homeschool
43:01 <Tigger_> morality can only really be taught by example, not as theory
43:07 <circle> how do you stop her becoming a feminist, anti-racist, refugee advocate, or some sort of leftist in general?
43:21 <circle> even if she never rebels, she could easily adopt a centre-left viewpoint
43:39 <Tigger_> homeschool
44:00 <circle> but one day she'll see the big white world
44:00 <Tigger_> sending kids to school is essentially an act of throwing them to the wolves, most normal kids will conform
44:00 <circle> wide
44:00 <circle> she's gonna get thrown to the wolves one day
44:00 <circle> but i suppose we can't do anything about it
44:00 <circle> society is just too against our ideas
44:00 <circle> so as you say, all you can do  is homeschool and then hope
44:12 <circle> but one day she'll see the big white world
44:14 <Tigger_> sending kids to school is essentially an act of throwing them to the wolves, most normal kids will conform
44:16 <circle> wide
44:24 <circle> she's gonna get thrown to the wolves one day
44:48 <circle> but i suppose we can't do anything about it
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44:54 <circle> society is just too against our ideas
45:00 <Tigger_> the longer a kid is kept from degeneracy the easier it is to resist when it does come, as they'll have more years to acclimatise themselves to decent standards
45:00 <circle> that is true
45:00 <xm> the reverse is true too, women are more likely than men to freak out if a guy is nice/polite etc
45:00 <xm> if they were raised in the gutters
45:00 <xm> they will always think a nice guy has some agenda in mind 
45:02 <circle> so as you say, all you can do is homeschool and then hope
45:17 <Tigger_> the longer a kid is kept from degeneracy the easier it is to resist when it does come, as they'll have more years to acclimatise themselves to decent standards
45:30 <circle> that is true
45:45 <xm> the reverse is true too, women are more likely than men to freak out if a guy is nice/polite etc
45:54 <xm> if they were raised in the gutters
46:00 <xm> well yeah... there is that. i just mean they will come up with some sort of conspiracy
46:00 <circle> xm: is someone speaking?
46:00 <xm> ?
46:07 <xm> they will always think a nice guy has some agenda in mind
46:31 <xm> well yeah... there is that. i just mean they will come up with some sort of conspiracy
47:00 <circle> there's no text in my window
47:00 <circle> you seem to be repliyng to someone
47:00 <xm> strange
47:00 <xm> Tigger_	the longer a kid is kept from degeneracy the easier it is to resist when it does come, as they'll have more years to acclimatise themselves to decent standards
47:00 <circle> but then you said <xm> well yeah... there is that. i just mean they will come up with some sort of conspiracy
47:00 <xm> conversely if the bar is set to low, decency or even normalcy appears to be too artificial 
47:01 <circle> xm: is someone speaking?
47:07 <xm> ?
47:13 <circle> there's no text in my window
47:17 <circle> you seem to be repliyng to someone
47:17 <xm> strange
47:36 <xm> Tigger_	the longer a kid is kept from degeneracy the easier it is to resist when it does come, as they'll have more years to acclimatise themselves to decent standards
47:51 <circle> but then you said <xm> well yeah... there is that. i just mean they will come up with some sort of conspiracy
48:00 <xm> i meant how most men just want to ultimately bed women
48:00 <xm> but i was separating that from the more sinister agendas, such as trying to plan some sort of elaborate plan
48:00 <circle> the well yeah...seemed to be responding to something
48:00 <circle> was it Tigger_'s remarks?
48:11 <xm> conversely if the bar is set to low, decency or even normalcy appears to be too artificial
48:24 <xm> i meant how most men just want to ultimately bed women
48:51 <xm> but i was separating that from the more sinister agendas, such as trying to plan some sort of elaborate plan
48:58 <circle> the well yeah...seemed to be responding to something
49:00 <xm> as in responding to my own really
49:00 <xm> responding to my own comment how they believe a guy would have an agenda
49:00 <circle> ah okay
49:00 <circle> you don't think nice guys always have agendas in mind though xm?
49:03 <circle> was it Tigger_'s remarks?
49:17 <xm> as in responding to my own really
49:37 <xm> responding to my own comment how they believe a guy would have an agenda
49:44 <circle> ah okay
50:00 <xm> i dont have much hope for females, they are truly far more difficult to fix. it seems they are far more incorrigible later on in life. the reality of biology contributes to it too
50:00 <xm> that is turning old
50:00 <xm> everyone has an agenda, always. it's a fallen world
50:00 <xm> but i am making a distinction between agendas that are normal and natural, and necessary for survival
50:09 <circle> you don't think nice guys always have agendas in mind though xm?
50:23 <xm> i dont have much hope for females, they are truly far more difficult to fix. it seems they are far more incorrigible later on in life. the reality of biology contributes to it too
50:27 <xm> that is turning old
50:39 <xm> everyone has an agenda, always. it's a fallen world
51:00 <xm> nothing wrong with people seeking something from a mate
51:00 <xm> the woman wants something back too of course
51:00 <circle> western women at the moment hate their own society, and the white men who have given them all the rights they have
51:11 <xm> but i am making a distinction between agendas that are normal and natural, and necessary for survival
51:22 <xm> nothing wrong with people seeking something from a mate
51:32 <xm> the woman wants something back too of course
52:00 <Tigger_> it's asian women are are far, far more along that track
52:01 <circle> western women at the moment hate their own society, and the white men who have given them all the rights they have
53:00 <Tigger_> but women's rights only exist because omega males were ready to cave in and give them whatever they wanted, thinking that it was going to be a trade where they get something in return
53:04 <Tigger_> it's asian women are are far, far more along that track
53:59 <Tigger_> but women's rights only exist because omega males were ready to cave in and give them whatever they wanted, thinking that it was going to be a trade where they get something in return
54:00 <circle> asian women are not really relevant
54:00 <circle> asians have never achieved greatness
54:00 <circle> there is nothing to defend or admire
54:29 <circle> asian women are not really relevant
54:37 <circle> asians have never achieved greatness
54:41 <circle> there is nothing to defend or admire
55:00 <Tigger_> I point it out for sake of perspective
55:14 <Tigger_> I point it out for sake of perspective
56:00 <Tigger_> think of an omega male who says to himself "It'll be so good when women have the right to work, then I'll get to meet women in the workplace, and they'll see how nice and helpful I am and then they'll want to marry me."
56:33 <Tigger_> think of an omega male who says to himself "It'll be so good when women have the right to work, then I'll get to meet women in the workplace, and they'll see how nice and helpful I am and then they'll want to marry me."
57:00 <Tigger_> what really happens: the women see him as competition, weak competition at that, and even more pathetic as the one thing he had over them, he gave away for nothing, as well as betraying other males by making it hard for them to get a job and economic footing
57:00 <circle> haha
57:00 <circle> yep
57:00 <circle> but i'm just saying
57:00 <circle> with asian women there's nothing to betray
57:00 <circle> whereas with white women the opposite is true
57:18 <Tigger_> what really happens: the women see him as competition, weak competition at that, and even more pathetic as the one thing he had over them, he gave away for nothing, as well as betraying other males by making it hard for them to get a job and economic footing
57:30 <circle> haha
57:31 <circle> yep
57:40 <circle> but i'm just saying
57:45 <circle> with asian women there's nothing to betray
57:52 <circle> whereas with white women the opposite is true
58:00 <Tigger_> but these omega male white males are similarly not worthy of respect in order to betray
58:00 <circle> but our civilisation is the greatest thing the world has ever known
58:00 <circle> asians don't really have any culture
58:00 <circle> communism in china wiped it out there, japs losing ww2 similarly there
58:00 <circle> then the other places are just bottom dwellers on account of their race
58:29 <Tigger_> but these omega male white males are similarly not worthy of respect in order to betray
58:40 <circle> but our civilisation is the greatest thing the world has ever known
58:44 <circle> asians don't really have any culture
58:52 <circle> communism in china wiped it out there, japs losing ww2 similarly there
58:59 <circle> then the other places are just bottom dwellers on account of their race
59:00 <Tigger_> that civilisation never came about because of pathetic omegas though, white civilisation has long carried a lot of useless types, who were once quite rightly marginalised, but given power thanks to democracy
59:00 <circle> definitely true
59:00 <circle> you know it's interesting though 
59:24 <Tigger_> that civilisation never came about because of pathetic omegas though, white civilisation has long carried a lot of useless types, who were once quite rightly marginalised, but given power thanks to democracy
59:57 <circle> definitely true
00:00 <circle> australia in the early 20th century was known (in australia, we thought of ourselves at this) as the most progressive society in the world
00:00 <circle> we were the 2nd country in the world to give the vote to women, and the 2nd to give the vote to everyone
00:00 <circle> full white male suffrage also came early in australia
00:00 <circle> there was workers rights legislation too
00:11 <circle> you know it's interesting though
00:25 <circle> australia in the early 20th century was known (in australia, we thought of ourselves at this) as the most progressive society in the world
00:43 <circle> we were the 2nd country in the world to give the vote to women, and the 2nd to give the vote to everyone
00:54 <circle> full white male suffrage also came early in australia
00:58 <circle> there was workers rights legislation too
01:00 <Tigger_> you get a lot of liberal retardness on the frontier, it's not all just brothels and saloons
01:00 <circle> the cornerstone of all our efforts was the white australia policy
01:00 <circle> it was thought to underpin all our work in progressivism
01:00 <circle> it was our magna carta
01:00 <circle> so it's interesting to think about
01:00 <Tigger_> NZ is even more frontier, and pozzed
01:17 <Tigger_> you get a lot of liberal retardness on the frontier, it's not all just brothels and saloons
01:25 <circle> the cornerstone of all our efforts was the white australia policy
01:38 <circle> it was thought to underpin all our work in progressivism
01:40 <circle> it was our magna carta
01:45 <circle> so it's interesting to think about
01:53 <Tigger_> NZ is even more frontier, and pozzed
02:00 <circle> nz just doesn't matter
02:00 <circle> i wouldn't describe what we had as pozzed though
02:00 <circle> because the idea wasn't leftism
02:00 <Tigger_> NZ matters a lot, as it's a valuable contrast to Australia
02:00 <circle> and the idea wasn't even socialism
02:00 <Tigger_> when a few years ago faggot marriage was legalised in NZ, the parliament all cried and sang some maori song
02:00 <circle> gay marriage should be legal
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02:15 <circle> nz just doesn't matter
02:22 <circle> i wouldn't describe what we had as pozzed though
02:29 <circle> because the idea wasn't leftism
02:29 <Tigger_> NZ matters a lot, as it's a valuable contrast to Australia
02:42 <circle> and the idea wasn't even socialism
02:57 <Tigger_> when a few years ago faggot marriage was legalised in NZ, the parliament all cried and sang some maori song
03:00 <circle> the family law act in australia was celebrated, yet it was the moment the family structure was totally destroyed
03:00 <Tigger_> then you are a symptom, not a solution
03:00 <circle> the right in australia got mandatory voting passed
03:00 <circle> quite an achievement
03:00 <circle> some credit it with stalling far-left initiatives in australia
03:00 <Tigger_> there is no such thing as faggot marriage any more than you can pass legislation that from hence forth cats are now dogs
03:09 <circle> gay marriage should be legal
03:23 <circle> the family law act in australia was celebrated, yet it was the moment the family structure was totally destroyed
03:24 <Tigger_> then you are a symptom, not a solution
03:46 <circle> the right in australia got mandatory voting passed
03:49 <circle> quite an achievement
03:55 <circle> some credit it with stalling far-left initiatives in australia
04:00 <circle> gay marriage is an irrelevancy
04:00 <Tigger_> it is not
04:00 <circle> it's amazing that so many cucks have spent so much time on it
04:00 <circle> we have spent more time on it as a society in australia than aboriton
04:00 <circle> which is literally murdering our own children in the womb, racial suicide
04:00 <Tigger_> fag marriage is the most visible symbol yet of deep social degeneracy
04:04 <Tigger_> there is no such thing as faggot marriage any more than you can pass legislation that from hence forth cats are now dogs
04:30 <circle> gay marriage is an irrelevancy
04:34 <Tigger_> it is not
04:36 <circle> it's amazing that so many cucks have spent so much time on it
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04:48 <circle> we have spent more time on it as a society in australia than aboriton
04:57 <circle> which is literally murdering our own children in the womb, racial suicide
05:00 <circle> and the funny thing is none of these moral crusader cucks ever cared about that
05:00 <circle> john coward intervened to stop gay marriage, yet he waved on through abortion to term in the ACT
05:00 <circle> didn't lift a finger
05:00 <circle> didn't give a fuck
05:00 <Tigger_> yes they did, they were the exact ones to care about abortion
05:00 <circle> no, nobody ever cared
05:00 <circle> john howard loves abortion
05:03 <Tigger_> fag marriage is the most visible symbol yet of deep social degeneracy
05:16 <circle> and the funny thing is none of these moral crusader cucks ever cared about that
05:32 <circle> john coward intervened to stop gay marriage, yet he waved on through abortion to term in the ACT
05:34 <circle> didn't lift a finger
05:36 <circle> didn't give a fuck
05:44 <Tigger_> yes they did, they were the exact ones to care about abortion
05:50 <circle> no, nobody ever cared
05:58 <circle> john howard loves abortion
06:00 <circle> he stopped the NT from passing a law letting people kill themselves, but he didn't stop the ACT allowing abortion to term
06:00 <Tigger_> but the pro-abortion lobby is so noisy, and general population so degenerate themselves, that once the abortion floodgates are open, they can't be closed again
06:00 <circle> if ever there was a man deserving of being hung from a noose, it's howard
06:00 <circle> Tigger_, there is more controversy in australia over gay marriage than abortion of babies until term
06:00 <circle> that's how totally fucked this cuck-ridden society is
06:13 <circle> he stopped the NT from passing a law letting people kill themselves, but he didn't stop the ACT allowing abortion to term
06:22 <Tigger_> but the pro-abortion lobby is so noisy, and general population so degenerate themselves, that once the abortion floodgates are open, they can't be closed again
06:24 <circle> if ever there was a man deserving of being hung from a noose, it's howard
06:56 <circle> Tigger_, there is more controversy in australia over gay marriage than abortion of babies until term
07:00 <circle> i would not worry too much about gay marriage. if you want to fix marriage, repeal the family law act 1975.
07:00 <Tigger_> the main reason why someone supports abortion is because they think it's reasonably likely that they're going to need an abortion themselves at some point
07:00 <circle> yes, i'm sure that's why all those men support abortion
07:00 <Tigger_> that ends up being a lot of people
07:02 <circle> that's how totally fucked this cuck-ridden society is
07:22 <circle> i would not worry too much about gay marriage. if you want to fix marriage, repeal the family law act 1975.
07:46 <Tigger_> the main reason why someone supports abortion is because they think it's reasonably likely that they're going to need an abortion themselves at some point
08:00 <Tigger_> yes, the men especially
08:00 <circle> australia supports abortion because we are degenerate hedonists
08:00 <circle> who care for nothing but ourselves
08:00 <circle> and we will invent any justification needed to keep that going
08:00 <circle> so you will hear australians pour their hearts out on individual liberty when talking about abortion
08:00 <circle> "a woman's right to her own choices, her own body, etc"
08:05 <circle> yes, i'm sure that's why all those men support abortion
08:07 <Tigger_> that ends up being a lot of people
08:16 <Tigger_> yes, the men especially
08:29 <circle> australia supports abortion because we are degenerate hedonists
08:33 <circle> who care for nothing but ourselves
08:48 <circle> and we will invent any justification needed to keep that going
09:00 <erlich> if you do not oppose gay marriage then you are undermining your efforts to oppose abortion. reusing a theme from before, if a father does not protest that a girl has sex before marriage has he undermined his own authority to prevent his own daughter from having an abortion?
09:00 <circle> but the next minute, when you talk about anything else, they will tell you what a stupid ideology individual liberty is
09:00 <circle> and how the needs of the whole outweigh the needs of the individual
09:00 <erlich> if you compromise on any principle, you compromise on all
09:00 <circle> erlich: gay marriage is about two men who love each other getting a certificate from the government called marriage. abortion is about murdering innocent human beings.
09:00 <circle> they are not linked at all.
09:01 <circle> so you will hear australians pour their hearts out on individual liberty when talking about abortion
09:09 <circle> "a woman's right to her own choices, her own body, etc"
09:15 <erlich> if you do not oppose gay marriage then you are undermining your efforts to oppose abortion. reusing a theme from before, if a father does not protest that a girl has sex before marriage has he undermined his own authority to prevent his own daughter from having an abortion?
09:20 <circle> but the next minute, when you talk about anything else, they will tell you what a stupid ideology individual liberty is
09:28 <circle> and how the needs of the whole outweigh the needs of the individual
09:30 <erlich> if you compromise on any principle, you compromise on all
09:54 <circle> erlich: gay marriage is about two men who love each other getting a certificate from the government called marriage. abortion is about murdering innocent human beings.
09:56 <circle> they are not linked at all.
10:00 <erlich> it could be argued that a girl doing pot and getting an abortion are not linked at all too
10:00 <Tigger_> this comes back to my earlier statement that white civilisation has long carried a lot of useless types, it was successful enough that they were not a danger as long as they were marginalised, but democracy has given them a lot more power than they formerly had
10:00 <circle> but you must realise Tigger_ that it is the elites in australia that do the most damage
10:00 <Tigger_> they are linked, both are assaults on Christian morality
10:00 <erlich> yes, morality must be seen in its totality
10:00 <Tigger_> no it's not the elites, it's the lower class
10:00 <circle> lol Tigger_ 
10:22 <erlich> it could be argued that a girl doing pot and getting an abortion are not linked at all too
10:32 <Tigger_> this comes back to my earlier statement that white civilisation has long carried a lot of useless types, it was successful enough that they were not a danger as long as they were marginalised, but democracy has given them a lot more power than they formerly had
10:51 <circle> but you must realise Tigger_ that it is the elites in australia that do the most damage
10:52 <Tigger_> they are linked, both are assaults on Christian morality
11:00 <erlich> you cannot select bits and pieces that you want like off a menu
11:00 <circle> the average tradie is much more conservative than the average educated middle class voter
11:00 <circle> the elites are the problem
11:00 <circle> i don't subscribe to jewish morality
11:00 <erlich> it is a la carte morality, this isnt a restaurant
11:00 <Tigger_> I used to think such things too, in a Dostoyevsky fashion that the peasants had some holy purity to them, no they don't
11:03 <erlich> yes, morality must be seen in its totality
11:05 <Tigger_> no it's not the elites, it's the lower class
11:10 <circle> lol Tigger_
11:15 <erlich> you cannot select bits and pieces that you want like off a menu
11:18 <circle> the average tradie is much more conservative than the average educated middle class voter
11:25 <circle> the elites are the problem
11:41 <circle> i don't subscribe to jewish morality
11:52 <erlich> it is a la carte morality, this isnt a restaurant
12:00 <circle> all studies have shown they are more conservative
12:00 <Tigger_> not Charles Murray's study
12:00 <erlich> most poor people are self-impoverished, or wasting what little they have. any attempts to throw money at them results in further waste
12:00 <circle> in ABC's votecompass, Tigger_, it found manual labourers to be the most conservative on every issue, from labour laws, taxes, to immigration
12:00 <circle> the least conservative were educated middle class professionals
12:00 <Tigger_> I wouldn't pay too much attention to that
12:00 <circle> the elite need to be murdered
12:00 <circle> academics
12:00 <circle> leftists
12:00 <circle> jews
12:04 <Tigger_> I used to think such things too, in a Dostoyevsky fashion that the peasants had some holy purity to them, no they don't
12:07 <circle> i don't subscribe to jewish morality
12:21 <circle> all studies have shown they are more conservative
12:29 <Tigger_> not Charles Murray's study
12:40 <erlich> most poor people are self-impoverished, or wasting what little they have. any attempts to throw money at them results in further waste
12:42 <circle> in ABC's votecompass, Tigger_, it found manual labourers to be the most conservative on every issue, from labour laws, taxes, to immigration
12:54 <circle> the least conservative were educated middle class professionals
13:00 <circle> they have created the hell we find ourselves in
13:00 <erlich> most people who do those poltical compass, ABC tests etc are progressives anyway
13:00 <erlich> most right wing people would only see it as a little curiousity at best when a leftist would define their identity over it
13:01 <Tigger_> I wouldn't pay too much attention to that
13:05 <circle> the elite need to be murdered
13:09 <circle> academics
13:10 <circle> leftists
13:11 <circle> jews
13:29 <circle> they have created the hell we find ourselves in
13:31 <erlich> most people who do those poltical compass, ABC tests etc are progressives anyway
13:57 <erlich> most right wing people would only see it as a little curiousity at best when a leftist would define their identity over it
14:00 <erlich> "i will have to do it again! it is making me centrist!"
14:00 <circle> that's not very relevant
14:00 <erlich> "malcom fraser? im confused!?"
14:00 <circle> malcolm fraser deserves a noose
14:00 <circle> hitler always said that all his efforts were about the german people
14:00 <circle> and that the leader was unimportant
14:12 <erlich> "i will have to do it again! it is making me centrist!"
14:26 <circle> that's not very relevant
15:00 <erlich> i wonder what hitler really meant about going eastard, liebestraum or wahtever
15:00 <circle> the degenerate ideology of a ruling class and an underclass, like in britain, has very toxic effects
15:00 <circle> what jews fear the most is a united society
15:00 <erlich> eastward*
15:00 <circle> hitler wanted a united reich of the germanic peoples
15:00 <erlich> wouldnt that be white vs white?
15:00 <circle> and he needed living space for them
15:00 <circle> russians don't use most of russia
15:00 <erlich> so connecting with others not displacing non-germans?>
15:00 <circle> slavs don't deserve all of russia
15:00 <Tigger_> you'll find most of the so-called elites that you refer to are SJWs who did wimmins studies, and themselves are the daughters of working class types
16:00 <erlich> there is fat studies now too
16:00 <Tigger_> yes, or that
16:00 <circle> Tigger_: no, I am talking about very rich elites who set the leftist agenda.
16:00 <circle> SJWs are not elites
16:00 <circle> they are irrelevant
16:00 <erlich> so that means someone can do a fat & womens studies
16:00 <erlich> and yes in this case those two are linked
16:00 <erlich> the best double degree you can get, it will make you highly employable
17:00 <erlich> perhaps a highly sought after government job
17:00 <circle> we must have a strong, united, race-based society, under the leadership of meritocrats who rise to the top
17:00 <circle> we must execute all leftists, jews, trade unionists, and other subversives
17:00 <erlich> my latest hate thing is probably minimum wage
18:00 <Tigger_> most of the leftist agenda seems to be coming from below and moving upwards, it's like there are thousands of ideological laboratories down there, and every so often one comes up with a new product that is then adopted by all the others
18:00 <erlich> ive hated it for some time but friedman has really inspired me to hate it even mopre
18:00 <Tigger_> I support the minimum wage, as a temporary measure
18:00 <erlich> i will give murray rothbard a try now, i hope i can concentrate unlike last time
19:00 <erlich> he is much heavier than 'sell out' friedman
19:00 <circle> the minimum wage is an employment and economy destroying measure
19:00 <circle> i don't oppose it though, i just don't really care any more
19:00 <Tigger_> it's not, it depends on how high the minimum wage is
19:00 <erlich> Tigger_: i can see how it can deter people from hiring cheap foreign labour
19:00 <Tigger_> but you can target a minimum wage to have very selective effects
19:00 <Tigger_> erlich, yes
19:00 <erlich> because as evidenced by cash in hand chinese working
19:00 <circle> if it's higher than the equilibrium value of labour, it's job destroying. if it's not, it's useless
20:00 <erlich> i found milton's comments last night on how to protect yourself against inflation alarming
20:00 <erlich> 'such as to buy expensive materials
20:00 <erlich> paintings, properties etc
20:00 <circle> milton is a monetarist
20:00 <Tigger_> but it's impossible to evaluate an economic policy without considering the rate of immigration
20:00 <circle> he doesnt care about inflation, in fact he likes it
20:00 <erlich> and i think in the video he quoted some insane inflation rate
21:00 <erlich> was there huge inflation going on years ago?
21:00 <circle> truth is, forget about paintings
21:00 <erlich> 80s?
21:00 <circle> just invest in an index fund
21:00 <circle> 80s was the last time
21:00 <circle> late 70s, early 80s
21:00 <circle> i think late 80s in aus even
21:00 <Tigger_> there was stagflation in the 1970s, when Friedman presented his most influential ideas
21:00 <erlich> i think japs had the reverse at one time, or still do
21:00 <circle> deflation
22:00 <erlich> it is funny how the audiences in donahue are so proper
22:00 <erlich> such a contrast to rikkie lake
22:00 <erlich> rikkki*
22:00 <Tigger_> deflation is the Keynesian nightmare where you've run out of people that want to borrow
22:00 <circle> indeed
22:00 <erlich> i have heard this before, but i never really realised his point about how the individual is effectively powerless over inflation
22:00 <circle> although deflation is a normal state of affairs without an eternally growing money supply
23:00 <erlich> i didnt realise it was  100% state created problem
23:00 <circle> for example in a nation with private banking and gold as currency
23:00 <erlich> was a*
23:00 <circle> erlich: you can disregard inflation if you invest
23:00 <erlich> i grew up thinking it was about consumer spending, then i was taught it was money supply, now i know the mechanism how it arises and it's strange
23:00 <circle> yes, constantly growing money supply
23:00 <circle> central banking
23:00 <circle> jews
24:00 <erlich> it has taken me a very long time to accept that the government is the root of all our problems, i have accepted it quasi, but now i fully accept it
24:00 <erlich> i just never bothered to hear about the points properly
24:00 <erlich> so basically regulation is evil
24:00 <Tigger_> time for a cola icy, brb
24:00 <circle> it is in many ways erlich 
24:00 <erlich> this isnt news to either of you
24:00 <circle> that used to be my view
24:00 <erlich> but for me it is
24:00 <erlich> well to see it argued rationally anyway
24:00 <circle> now i realise we need a strong and powerful national government to destroy subversives like jews
25:00 <erlich> it's always fun to have your worldview shattered
25:00 <circle> but meddling in the market will always destroy material prosperity
25:00 <erlich> i had a frozen drink today
25:00 <erlich> the coke section was broken, so i had the other one
26:00 <circle> last time i went to mcdonalds there was a very pretty young girl working at the counter
26:00 <circle> she had long braided blonde hair
26:00 <circle> small waist
26:00 <circle> tight ass
27:00 <erlich> you should have mentioned all that at the counter when she asked what you wanted
27:00 <erlich> 'long braided blonde hair, small waist and tight ass thank you"
27:00 <circle> hahahaha
27:00 <circle> i was imaginging saying 'you' when she asked
27:00 <erlich> what is the minimum working age in aus?
28:00 <circle> in most states it's 15
28:00 <circle> SA doesn't have a minimum age (i'm not in SA though)
28:00 <erlich> really?
28:00 <circle> yep
28:00 <erlich> ive seen some workers before that i swore looked like 12 year olds
28:00 <circle> sometimes it's done 
28:00 <circle> esp in family businesses
29:00 <thestig> why u looking at 12 year olds for
29:00 <circle> wouldn't see it in maccas commonly though
29:00 <circle> thise girl looked 16
29:00 <circle> and she was beautiful
29:00 <thestig> CIRCLE 1 V 1
29:00 <circle> in tf2 thestig 
29:00 <circle> u got it yet?
29:00 <thestig> yeh
29:00 <erlich> yeah i knew one family that has a 9 yearold at the counter
29:00 <erlich> had*
29:00 <circle> kk well do it in 30 mins?
30:00 <circle> thats good
30:00 <thestig> morrow night?
30:00 <circle> kids should work in the family business
30:00 <circle> kk tomorrow night
30:00 <circle> msg me on steam
30:00 <erlich> actually i think they got their other kid to work too, who was 6 or less at the time
30:00 <thestig> swoit , i got to get up early 
30:00 <erlich> workin on sat?
30:00 <thestig> going to do a special job
31:00 <erlich> does it involve a towbar and rope
31:00 <thestig> oh i pulled a tree out with a forklift and chain
31:00 <erlich> so rothbard is some sort of libertarian too? unless you can apply it narrowly to economics
32:00 <Tigger_> this was back when there was a war over the definition of 'libertarian'
32:00 <Tigger_> Rothbard and the Mises Institute were attempting to establish themselves as 'paleo-liberatrians', in contrast to the hippy libertarians
33:00 <erlich> i see
33:00 <thestig> it was 10 meters high
33:00 <erlich> i think Rothbard is too heavy for me tonight when im brain dead, as i am every friday
33:00 <erlich> haha thestig 
33:00 <erlich> you shoudl ahve filmed it
33:00 <thestig> i did
33:00 <erlich> i will go read some christian book instead
34:00 <erlich> yt
34:00 <Tigger_> They are former Marxists, contemporary liberals, practicing drug-users, homosexuals, self-appointed members of the avant-garde, haters of tradition, anti-religious (especially anti-Christian) atheists, alienated teens and young adults, politically correct leftists, humanitarians who see the established culture and morality as equally or more threatening than an expansive government. They also reject the classical liberalism that the United
34:00 <Tigger_>  States of America is founded upon. In fact, many of these people have not read or do not care to read the writings of the Founders of the United States or the philosophers who influenced them. If they do appeal to the Founders, they cite quotes taken out of context to support their leftist views. They also care little for community, culture, or history. 
34:00 <Tigger_> These "libertarians" have taken on the name to justify a nihilistic view of the world, where restraint of any kind is removed so that they can indulge their appetites. Many modal libertarians have an appreciation of the free market because they realize the market can supply their drugs, pornography, and prostitutes more effectively.
34:00 <thestig> but u find rothbard more interesting 
34:00 <erlich> i remember an IRC guy that sent me a video of himself blowing up a massive stump once
34:00 <Tigger_> that is Rothbard, btw
35:00 <erlich> im highly suspect of libertarians that are drug friendly, it defies common sense
35:00 <erlich> it doesnt require an economics or politics degree to see its devastating effects on society
35:00 <Tigger_> he goes on to say that most libertarians began by rebelling against their parents, and then had to rebel against everything, since that was their direction of momentum
35:00 <thestig> erlich i seen a pic of kuniva with a bbq gas bottle with fire comming out the end lol
35:00 <erlich> lmao
35:00 <thestig> im trying to find it
35:00 <erlich> wouldnt surprise me if kunny unintentionally 'suicides' one day
36:00 <erlich> that is my theory too about lefties
36:00 <erlich> how their defiance is rooted in hatred of God ... the authority chain society->parents->God
36:00 <erlich> maybe substitute parents fro fathgers
37:00 <erlich> the nice thing about being objective and a person into pattern matching, is that i can easily see how at the micro and macro levels certain patterns are repeated -- just take a few labels out and replace them
39:00 <erlich> i remember your comment once how engineers would make poor economic leaders Tigger_, because they have to plan everything out as if the system is amenable to some predictable law
39:00 <erlich> so basically they would become like a centralist govt dictating how to run things
39:00 <Tigger_> China and the USSR had a lot of engineers in govt
39:00 <erlich> it's fine with the laws of physics but i dont think you can factor him human posychology 
40:00 <erlich> China still does
40:00 <Tigger_> yes
40:00 <Tigger_> they tend to see the economy as a machine, it's not, it's an animal
40:00 <erlich> yes
46:00 <Tigger_> Rothbard again on typical libertarians, or 'modal libertarians' (ML) as he calls them:
46:00 <Tigger_> And hence, too the fanatical hostility of the ML toward Christianity. I used to think that this militant atheism was merely a function of the Randianism out of which most modern libertarians emerged two decades ago. But atheism is not the key, for let someone in a libertarian gathering announce that he or she is a witch or a worshiper of crystal-power of some other New Age hokum, and that person will be treated with great tolerance and res
46:00 <Tigger_> pect. It is only Christians that are subject to abuse, and clearly the reason for the difference in treatment has nothing to do with atheism. But it has everything to do with rejecting and spurning bourgeois American culture; and any kind of kooky cultural cause will be encouraged in order to tweak the noses of the hated bourgeoisie...In point of fact, the original attraction of the ML to Randianism was part and parcel of his adolescent re
46:00 <Tigger_> bellion: what better way to rationalize and systematize rejection of one's parents, family, and neighbors than to join a cult which denounces religion and which trumpets the absolute superiority of yourself and your cult leaders, as contrasted to the robotic "second-handers" who supposedly people the bourgeois world? A cult, furthermore, which calls upon you to spurn your parents, family, and bourgeois associates, and to cultivate the alle
46:00 <Tigger_> ged greatness of your own individual ego
47:00 <erlich> i was just reading about tensions between hin and Rand
48:00 <erlich> so some economists are more in touch with reality than psychologists an dpsychiatrists
49:00 <Tigger_> the funniest story was how she ordered him to divorce his Christian wife and marry someone more rational
49:00 <erlich> i suppose if 'the love of money is the root of all evil' then understanding this is key to human psychology
49:00 <erlich> looool how riverqueenish
49:00 <erlich> a one track mind obsession
49:00 <erlich> where's me kindle
50:00 <erlich> i need to recharge it, i just realised it was low last time
50:00 <erlich> im tempted to pull an all nighter
50:00 <Tigger_> but she also thought that anti-smoking research was just all a fraud, she then died of lung cancer
50:00 <erlich> and get this book over and done with
50:00 <erlich> heh
50:00 <Tigger_> Ayn Rand does talk a fair bit of sense if you're selective though
51:00 <Tigger_> it's just that when she goes off on a loopy tangent, it really is loopy
51:00 <erlich> there was a good moment from Friedman when a study was said by the government that a certain car was safe but then one done privately said it wasnt, so Donahue goes "but you're trusting the government's word now" so Friedman just says "i dont. i dont trust any of them"
52:00 <erlich> he seems to turn any arguments around
52:00 <erlich> he still does believe in some form of government tho, albeit small so i suppose he can never be consiustent then
53:00 <Tigger_> his son, David Friedman, was a full anarcho-capitalist
53:00 <erlich> because any form of government will ultimately keep growing, taxes always increase blah blah
53:00 <Tigger_> but if you're going to advise govt, it's probably best to not be a full anarchist
54:00 <erlich> i just find it interesting how it is the state itself that empowers the evil multinationals that lefties always whine about, so if the lefties go on about these companies then they are indirectly against the existence of a state
54:00 <erlich> haha
54:00 <erlich> yeah
54:00 <Tigger_> lefties are really just dancing monkeys for multinationals, nothing they go on about harms them in any way
54:00 <erlich> most of the stuff i read is to help me enrage lefties
55:00 <erlich> i remember when they all went on about globalisation, s11 etc
55:00 <erlich> seems to have quietened down now
55:00 <Tigger_> they forgot about it
55:00 <erlich> i suppose that occupy crap and the 99% is dead too
56:00 <erlich> there are too many causes to take up now, it's not like decades ago when it was just issues like the enviroment. this is probably why all the protests attract all those randoms, because they need an excuse to be seen somehow
57:00 <Tigger_> virtue signalling
57:00 <erlich> i can not remember any logging related protests for some time
57:00 <erlich> like back in the old days when theyd chain themselves
58:00 <erlich> now they just stab horses in the eyes with glass shards
58:00 <Tigger_> at least the trees were real, unlike global warming
58:00 <erlich> global warming is like santa claus, secret hiding at the north pole
58:00 <erlich> secretly*
59:00 <erlich> so my kindl was in my bag all along
59:00 <erlich> for weeks
59:00 <erlich> well not weeks, maybe 2
59:00 <Tigger_> been that long since you used it?
00:00 <erlich> im not good with time, but it has felt like a while
00:00 <erlich> but at the same time i do remember reading it about 2 weeks ago
00:00 <Tigger_> I like the way they can keep a charge for a month or so
00:00 <erlich> yeah it's still bright and on
00:00 <erlich> ill check batt status
00:00 <erlich> so amazin' how it is touch screen
01:00 <erlich> just one bar on the battery
01:00 <erlich> ill see how much juice i can get out of 1 hour recharge, and just yt while i wait
03:00 <erlich> i was told by some engineer that if you let your batteries drain to 0% it can make recharging impossible sometimes
03:00 <erlich> he told me about how even tourist kickbacks even happy in suburban perth
03:00 <erlich> i thought that was just the goldcoast
04:00 <Tigger_> kickbacks?
04:00 <erlich> so you get Chinese tourists coming off buses into restaurants, and the restaurants give them piles of cash in reward later
04:00 <erlich> he told us it's not worthwhile having a restaurant
04:00 <erlich> the margins are much lower than most people think
04:00 <erlich> and the hours are too much
05:00 <erlich> his family had a 350 seat restaurant
05:00 <Tigger_> back when Japanese tourism to the Gold Coast was a thing, busloads of Jap tourists were lead around to souvenir shops owned by Japanese companies, it was all carefully controlled
06:00 <erlich> he tells me funny stories all the time, like how on production sites they turn off 'required' protection systems so that production will never stop because of trips. it does make sense tho, the equipment might be expensive and a pain to replace, but production in some plants produce so much revenue that the opportunity cost is far higher from unwanted tripping
06:00 <erlich> but yes he told me that was when tourism was big years ago -- it had a span of at least 10 years during the recent burst
06:00 <erlich> but it';s all dead now
06:00 <erlich> here at least
06:00 <erlich> they sold it off and then that place closed
07:00 <erlich> his family now do the typicalk asian thing of selling fish, and i think fruit & veg
07:00 <erlich> and when the economy goes down they do better, as peoplek would rather make their own than eat out
07:00 <Tigger_> that's a bit of a come down
07:00 <erlich> way cheaper to buy your own seafood and prepare it than eat out somewhere fancy of course
08:00 <Tigger_> about an 80% saving is what you can expect
08:00 <erlich> i basically never eat out, so i feel shocked when i hear prices
09:00 <erlich> like ive walked out of maccas many times before because the frozen cokes at the time werent $1. whether it was some change in marketing or the kiosks stuffed up
09:00 <erlich> even though i really wanted it
09:00 <Tigger_> for a large family gathering, that could run into a few thousand dollars
09:00 <erlich> you know McDonalds have kiosks now right?
09:00 <Tigger_> for two, it could easily be a few hundred
09:00 <Tigger_> no?
10:00 <erlich> just machines you can order food and drinks from yourself
10:00 <erlich> or even creat e your own burger (you probably have heard of this)
10:00 <erlich> so if you pay by card, you can sit down with your receipt and they will coem to you
10:00 <erlich> very little human interaction, it's great
10:00 <Tigger_> I've heard about a machine that makes pizzas
11:00 <erlich> there is a bug in the system for ages that got exploited, where you coudl get a $20 dinner pack but keep adding
11:00 <erlich> yes, ive seen photos of that in Croatia
11:00 <erlich> very strange
11:00 <erlich> the heat would have to be intense?
12:00 <erlich> im not sure about the quality of it if it will be cooked purely electrically
12:00 <erlich> but if they want gas for it, then obviously they will need to find a gas outlet to connect to, and most places outside wont have that
12:00 <Tigger_> from the article I read, people said the pizza was reasonably good
13:00 <erlich> introverts from the future are lucky, they wont have to deal with many people
13:00 <erlich> in the future*
13:00 <Tigger_> Sheldon said that about online ordering
14:00 <erlich> i suspect it will create an entire new subculture, similar to that one in Japan of boys that never leave their room, but on a far greater scale
14:00 <erlich> even when they leave home they wont even have to talk to people
14:00 <erlich> but why would they even leave
16:00 <Tigger_> 3D printing will push society in that direction too
17:00 <erlich> the intelligent class will have access to so many things giving them independence and freedom, the rest are screwed
19:00 <erlich> im pretty sure there will be way more people working from home
20:00 <erlich> it's just so inefficient now for people having to travel and going into an office
20:00 <erlich> real estate space is expensive, cars are expensive, fuel is expensive
20:00 <Tigger_> I expect that even work won't be all that common in the future
20:00 <erlich> dealing with peoplke is harassment
20:00 <erlich> yes, i was getting to that
20:00 <erlich> but im not that familiar with this sort of thing to speculate
21:00 <Tigger_> a good example is robot controlled trucks, and amazon's delivery drones
22:00 <erlich> i just know that not only will the intelligent elite's skills be in higher demand, their costs of living will be lower because 1) as you said things like 3d printers 2) self-education rather than massive expenses from institutions 3) not leaving home, going out costs heaps
22:00 <erlich> im hoping most of uni can be done away with
23:00 <erlich> im intrigued by how some people want to do away with medical licenses, my brain is not yet ready to accept this in terms of perception
23:00 <Tigger_> that Indian doctors exist is a proof against medical licenses
23:00 <erlich> i would lkike to hear some good arguments, but  i suppose i do accept that even licensed practioners get it wrong more often than people think
24:00 <erlich> it has been said before and i do believe this too, that nurses are often just as qualified to diagnose and treat patients after many years of expeirence
24:00 <Tigger_> well for most of history it was nurses that did most of the actual life saving
24:00 <erlich> ive been in hospital about 10+ time snow, you definitely notice a few things about them all. their body languages are very different too. doctors seem to keep their distance from patients in all ways imaginable
24:00 <Tigger_> poor people often had better life outcomes because they couldn't afford doctors
25:00 <erlich> dont want to acknowledge they are there ("only talk to me if we are in the room"), quite detached from everyone around them, dress up too much
25:00 <erlich> id rather die at home than in hospital
25:00 <Tigger_> a lot of insecurity
26:00 <erlich> yeah, you will never see them dressed casual
26:00 <erlich> even as medical students
26:00 <Tigger_> my general feeling about doctors and lawyers is that if your job is mainly about dealing with proles, then perhaps you are one yourself
26:00 <erlich> a bit like how Israelis didnt want tattoos to make them distinct from their neighbours?
27:00 <erlich> i did watch a documentary once about law students or young grads doing legal aid
27:00 <erlich> they all seemed so enthusiastic about it
27:00 <Tigger_> just that there is a perception that medicine and law is very high class, but the reality is that it brings you into contact with more low class people than most people ever have to deal with
27:00 <erlich> but im sure they get jaded quick, as the stereotype goes
28:00 <erlich> oh right that
28:00 <erlich> well you get those doctors without borders that act very down-to-earth
28:00 <erlich> i suppose they cut the crap
28:00 <erlich> but some fo them are still messed up in the snese they have to try to fix everything
29:00 <erlich> fred hollows is an example of a "larrikan" doctor
30:00 <erlich> that did mission work
30:00 <erlich> the ones out in the country are apparently nicer
30:00 <Tigger_> his main goal was to get aborigines to sign up to vote so they could vote for communists
30:00 <erlich> my dentist that pulled out my wisdom teeth looked likje a bum
30:00 <erlich> and he;'s from teh country
30:00 <erlich> all the Asians and Indians over dress tho
31:00 <erlich> that reminds me this Indian dentist i know has a blog where he rants about racism
31:00 <erlich> i could seriously troll this guy, he;'s fairly mental
31:00 <Tigger_> what is his specific complaint?
31:00 <erlich> i havent read it yet, i dont know the URL, but i can find it i think
31:00 <erlich> i just heard someone tell me abou tit
32:00 <erlich> he's a real nutjob and his business partner hated him so much he was willing to lose millions to spite him
32:00 <erlich> that is how much he is hated
32:00 <erlich> several people leave becasue of him
32:00 <erlich> he is one of those people that never listen to others
32:00 <erlich> like warren
33:00 <erlich> you wouldnt expect a business man to become a dentist overnight, you wouldnt expect a dentist to become a good business overnight either
33:00 <erlich> people think having capital is sufficient to run a business
34:00 <Tigger_> I'm more impressed by a business that starts without capital
34:00 <erlich> because in dentistry, you may know this i dont know, you get specialised financial institutions that will lend moeny at the drop of the hat for you
34:00 <Tigger_> yes
34:00 <erlich> so he has borrowed and borrowed and borrowed and owns heaps of practices
34:00 <erlich> and they're all going down
34:00 <Tigger_> medical is a safe bet for borrowing
34:00 <Tigger_> well until him, that is
34:00 <erlich> hahaha
35:00 <erlich> he also got rent for a commercial property, and he is locked into a 5 year contract which is tandard
35:00 <erlich> and he has NO capital in the foreseeable future to start the clinic there
35:00 <erlich> it's been a few years yet nothing has happened
36:00 <erlich> at the moment only 2-3 staff members use the place and only for 2 days a week
36:00 <Tigger_> so he's paying rent for an empty property?
36:00 <erlich> and just for general admin staff that can be done anywhere
36:00 <erlich> well it is severe underutilised, it is more being used "because it's there"
36:00 <erlich> like how you fill up a hard drive because you just got it
36:00 <erlich> he's a real tool
36:00 <Tigger_> yeah
37:00 <erlich> i saw that Strauss game book on his shelf
37:00 <erlich> he is also really big on those "how to be a success overnight" books and podcasts
37:00 <erlich> your best bet is to read books on those that have actually succeeded and failed, rather than people taht talk about it
38:00 <Tigger_> best to read books about people who failed
38:00 <erlich> learning about failures is important too which people dont quite get
38:00 <erlich> because if you want to run a business (liek how you want to write code or design a system for engineering) you have to be rpepared for the worst
38:00 <erlich> everyone wants to get rich but they think it entails throwing money at something
39:00 <erlich> and having "an idea" and being "ambitious"
39:00 <Tigger_> the late 90s dotcom bubble was driven by people who mostly didn't even know how to turn a computer on
39:00 <erlich> i'd say having a good idea that requires little capital and taking high risk (even though you have little money, i mean risk as in you believe in it and quit your day job etc))
39:00 <erlich> is probably more important
40:00 <erlich> one of the richest people in australia quit his job for what seemed like a silly idea, but it paid off
40:00 <erlich> my friedn and him worked on it together
40:00 <erlich> but that guy ran off with it
41:00 <Tigger_> what was the idea?
41:00 <erlich> he's worth hundreds of millions now,m it's some SMS thing
41:00 <erlich> i think based on name/love match
41:00 <erlich> crazily stupid and simplke, dunno what exactly they did
41:00 <erlich> ill try to dig up his name and what it is
41:00 <erlich> he still tries to defend what he does in the paper
41:00 <erlich> "i dont care what people say, i know what i did was right. i didnt do anything unethical"
41:00 <erlich> re: stealing
42:00 <Tigger_> he should sell out completely
43:00 <erlich> #18
43:00 <erlich> Zhenya Tsvetnenko Millionaire 
43:00 <erlich> Zhenya Tsvetnenko – Net Worth: $70 Million
43:00 <erlich> Russian born, but raised in Perth, Western Australia, Zhenya Tsvetnenko made his millions by coding and creating SMS software to deliver daily alerts, games, music and ringtones.
43:00 <erlich> Zhenya’s ‘MPire Media’ company is breaking into the Latin & European markets at the moment and Zhenya also has his hands in the Chinese smart phone market as he joint ventures with the listed tech company SmartTrans to penetrate the fastest growing smart phone market in the world.
44:00 <erlich> he was a client at my last job funnily enough, and the system was soooooo bad
44:00 <erlich> so dodgy
44:00 <erlich> i think it collapsed
44:00 <erlich> he spent about 6 mill on that one
44:00 <erlich> and the strang ething is i think it was kinda an affinity scam, like all friends investing in it
44:00 <erlich> perhaps scam is harsh, but it was extremely poorly executed
44:00 <erlich> we knew more about their business than they did
45:00 <Tigger_> if it's not infrastructure, just a novelty, then he should sell out on a high, rather than get displaced by the next novelty that comes along
45:00 <erlich> but that is common in IT when you consult with them and help them with it
45:00 <erlich> my sister and friends are mad about gyms at the moment, that engineer before i said that talked about kickbacks thinks it will collapse. i think so too
46:00 <erlich> i cant remember too well, but back in the eighties aerobics were everywhere and places were opening up for it, but now all gone
46:00 <erlich> tha twas that engineers argument to relate to that
46:00 <Tigger_> gyms go in cycles too
47:00 <erlich> Asians tend to have good business advice, but i dont particularly care about running a business
47:00 <erlich> id rather write a music program and sell it
48:00 <erlich> but i'd rather have 100,000,000 people using my product and enjoying it for free and making a barely livable product, than make $100,000 a year but only having 1,000 people use it. that is what i think now, but in reality when given the choice you dont know what you';d do
48:00 <erlich> well "free"
48:00 <erlich> making a living barely*
48:00 <erlich> it's like what you said about morality before
48:00 <Tigger_> the 100 million people using it for free would attract way, way more venture capital
49:00 <erlich> talk is nothing, it all about choices you make that define you, including the choice to not do, thinking about what you wont or will do is what the left fantasizes all day about, probably touching themselves too
49:00 <erlich> that is true 
50:00 <erlich> im not sure how domain name evaluators work, i get quite a variation with how much my domains are worth
50:00 <erlich> it;s all about*
50:00 <Tigger_> it doesn't mean a thing until there's a real offer
50:00 <erlich> yes
50:00 <erlich> i try to think of everything Biblically
50:00 <erlich> re: Genesis and the tree
51:00 <erlich> anyway i would rather trust a right wing person than a left with a child
51:00 <erlich> ive noticed from blogs and posts on my fb that right wing fathers are extremely protective of their kids
52:00 <erlich> and then you get that idiot feminist biting beaver that would probably sell her kids to Islamic paedophiles
52:00 <erlich> i think in the end it is how you treat those closest to you,, not strangers, that show who you are
52:00 <Tigger_> leftists probably complain about how much their kids held them back in life
52:00 <erlich> so if someone feeds a homeless man but doesnt help their family, shame on them
52:00 <erlich> there is a Bible quote on that too
53:00 <erlich> family first then the rest
53:00 <Tigger_> leapfrogging compassion
53:00 <erlich> i can t remember who wrote about this but it was very perceptive and true
53:00 <Tigger_> ISIS jihadists are therefore the most deserving
54:00 <erlich> the sporting team mentality, how the loyalty and care for each other within the team was very strong, but for outsiders there was a lot of mistreatment
54:00 <erlich> how they are loyal*
54:00 <erlich> kinda like the stereotype in movies of jocks being friendly with each other but picking on the losers
55:00 <Tigger_> I'm not sure if such jocks ever existed, and that it was always just the resentful projection of envious nerds
55:00 <erlich> i see 'compassion' ( ihate the word now almost because of the left) as a finite commodity, you cant share it around indiscriminately
55:00 <erlich> yes, but i was just trying to make an example. i think heartise came up with that one
56:00 <erlich> in reality the jocks arent that dumb, plenty of them are all-round achievers too
56:00 <erlich> academically doing well too
56:00 <erlich> but not as well as the nerds of course
57:00 <erlich> i wonder if heartise makes any money off his stuff
57:00 <Tigger_> most self-appointed nerds seem to be quite stupid, and don't know very much outside of sword and sorcery novels
57:00 <Tigger_> appears not to
58:00 <erlich> when i was young very few people could actually code, and those that could pretty much kept it to themself for many reasons. 1) no one cared 2) no one understood it anyway
58:00 <erlich> now everyone thinks tehy are a coder because they modified JavaScript
58:00 <erlich> i remember when someone in #melb listed that he knew 10+ languages
58:00 <erlich> and XML and HTML were listed as some of them etc etc
59:00 <Tigger_> don't forget bbcode
59:00 <Tigger_> wiki markup
59:00 <erlich> easy way to spot them is that they boast by quantity, rather than understanding design philosophies,frameworks whatever
01:00 <erlich> i initially hated reddit but there are some suforums i find interesting from time to time
01:00 <erlich> just general discussion on coding, music apps etc
01:00 <erlich> or edm itself
01:00 <erlich> im not sure if it still has that militant atheist thing going on
02:00 <Tigger_> there are sub-reddits for gamemaker, but it's no comparison to the official forums
07:00 <erlich> kindle at 50%
07:00 <erlich> good enough for me
07:00 <erlich> its midnight anyway
07:00 <erlich> this is at max brightness, if i slide it down ill be ok
19:00 <erotic> Tigger_ do you have gay cunt as a son?
35:00 <circle> sarah palin keeps getting cuter with age
44:00 <erotic> sarah palin is jen
44:00 <erotic> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
59:00 <Tigger_> `topic National hero Bob Carter dies, gone to his reward after years of fighting the forces of deception with the sword of truth: https://www.heartland.org/robert-m-carter and http://joannenova.com.au/2016/01/bob-carter-a-great-man-gone-far-too-soon/
23:00 <ajnin> circle dont you sleep mate
56:00 <Abortion> Every second day, highlight for abortion
27:00 <AndroUser> LOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
35:00 <AndroUser> Chinese wife
35:00 <AndroUser> Hru
35:00 <AndroUser> Lozer
35:00 <Marttin> loo
02:00 <A2M3642A> Palin endorses Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pus6XF_qh38
02:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Gabby Johnson, Blazing Saddles rant (Feb 3, 2009) Length: 0:43 - Category: Entertainment - 63,689 views - 109 likes (98.2%), 2 dislikes (1.8%)
10:00 <Marttin> m.huffpost.com/us/entry/man-uses-penis-doodle-for-signature-officials-think-hes-sketchy_us_568e8d42e4b0a2b6fb6ef08c
32:00 <hot^cunt> raw emotion
36:00 <erlich> anyone know how effective the upgrade to win 10 from a pirated win 7 is
37:00 <Tigger_> no idea, but it'd be worth googling.  my expectation is it won't work
38:00 <erlich> have you gone through Milton's Free To Choose series
38:00 <Tigger_> I remember them, many years ago
38:00 <Ethanol> I don't think there is an easy way to disable automatic updates in Windows 10 (the exception to this rule is the enterprise edition)
38:00 <Ethanol> So that may be a problem
39:00 <erlich> how would the upgrade path from win 7 make that different? or is that a general comment directed at win 10
39:00 <erlich> unless it still 'remembers' it's pirated
41:00 <erlich> also i would like to know what free market advocates think of piracy, im leaning towards if the consumer values it then it ultimately doesnt matter
41:00 <Tigger_> there would be some catch, such as upgrading you to 10, and the only thing that works is the MS app store
41:00 <Ethanol> Oh I understand you now
41:00 <Ethanol> You're upgrading from a pirated copy of Windows 7 to a legit copy of Windows 10?
42:00 <erlich> considering it yes
42:00 <Ethanol> ok
43:00 <Tigger_> Guido Hulsmann (friend of Professor Hoppe) argues that non-physical piracy is a logical fallacy, as it violates what you may do with your physical property, such as your hard drive
43:00 <Tigger_> I would never use a pirated OS these days
43:00 <Ethanol> The automatic updates would only pose a problem for pirated copies of Windows 10 because of Micro$oft's Genuine Advantage nonsense
44:00 <Tigger_> heh, Micro$oft, like Slashdot back in the day
44:00 <erlich> u guys sux. winblowz is for lamers
44:00 <erlich> linux 4 lyfe
45:00 <Ethanol> I hate Micro$oft once again because they are fag friendly
45:00 <erlich> what have they done this time?
45:00 <erlich> did they do anythign for that lil clock terrorists, i know facebook zuckerberg did
45:00 <erlich> terrorist*
45:00 <Ethanol> pro-fag marketing, pro-fag sponsorship, pro-fag hiring policies, etc
46:00 <erlich> ah right that stuff. i wonder if they go out of their way for corporate image or if their budget justu allocates that for random causes
46:00 <Tigger_> I didn't know about the fag stuff, I thought Apple had the monopoly there
46:00 <erlich> lol
46:00 <erlich> what is next for Apple? what 'innovation' is there left?>
46:00 <Ethanol> Microsoft were co-signatories to newspaper ads in favour of gay marriage
47:00 <Ethanol> along with Apple, Google, Facebook, Oracle, and may others
47:00 <erlich> i wonder what Bill Gates would think of this, if that transpired after his time there
47:00 <Ethanol> many*
47:00 <erlich> im just guessing he woudl be more concerned about real problems in the third world
48:00 <Tigger_> I am hating Micro$oft again for turning the OS into an app store with spyware, it's a very unclassy move, turning it into Android
48:00 <Tigger_> though Apple are spamming users with ads on the OS level too now I hear
49:00 <erlich> i am not familiar with this spyware?
49:00 <Tigger_> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2956574/microsoft-subnet/windows-10-privacy-spyware-settings-user-agreement.html
50:00 <Ethanol> Similar to Android, Windows 10s grants access to address books, browser history, etc to third party apps
50:00 <Tigger_> though the same features are being backported into Windows 7 too
50:00 <erlich> is this something you can disable in obscure settings?
50:00 <erlich> or an intrinsic part of the OS
50:00 <Ethanol> You can disable some "features"
51:00 <Tigger_> We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.
51:00 <erlich> is anyone here seriously considering moving to Linux completely
51:00 <Ethanol> yes, I am
51:00 <erlich> do you really need VS Studio?
51:00 <erlich> i mean VS*
51:00 <erlich> oh wait
51:00 <Tigger_> I'm stuck on Windows really
51:00 <Ethanol> Not anymore. Most of my dev tools are cross-platform
51:00 <erlich> for GM?
52:00 <Tigger_> yes
52:00 <erlich> arent they going to port that to Linux Tigger_ 
52:00 <erlich> Ethanol: what are your main tools?
52:00 <Tigger_> you can develop games for Linux with it, but that is using an exporter.  they said that they'll not likely ever do a GM IDE for Linux
53:00 <erlich> im about to play with stuff for VSTi plugin programming
53:00 <Tigger_> there will be a GM for Mac though
53:00 <Tigger_> GM:S rather, there is already a GM for Mac, a few versions ago
53:00 <erlich> i am trying to thinkj of examples where the same product costs more on a different platform
54:00 <Tigger_> is there a less clunky linux now?
54:00 <erlich> i mostly use CLI, not GUI
54:00 <erlich> so performance is not really an issue for me
54:00 <Ethanol> erlich: GNU Toolchain for ARM processors, Qt Creator and at least 3 IDEs derived from Eclipse
55:00 <erlich> i hated Eclipse when i tried it years ago, i found NetBeans far more intuitive
55:00 <Ethanol> NetBeans is closer to Visual Studio
56:00 <Ethanol> Tigger_: no, they all suck
56:00 <Ethanol> but Xubuntu is the least suckiest in my opinion
57:00 <Tigger_> so as before, all the polish of Windows 3.1
59:00 <Ethanol> Others with recommend Linux Mint. The Cinnamon desktop environment is a compromise between traditional desktop environments (eg Gnome 2) and modern "experiments" (Gnome 3)
59:00 <Ethanol> will*
00:00 <Tigger_> is it just because of MS faggotry that you're looking at switching to Linux?
01:00 <Ethanol> lol, no
02:00 <Tigger_> so just don't need MS anymore?
05:00 <Ethanol> correct. With the exception of Visual Studio (which I use sparingly these days), I can run everything I need on a Linux system. 
05:00 <erlich> i am downloading the Free to Choose series, and one of the IPs is from Afghanistan
05:00 <erlich> maybe it's a US soldier
05:00 <Tigger_> probably
05:00 <Tigger_> a fair few of them are into stuff like this
06:00 <Ethanol> I'd love to completely remove Google from my life, but I've already sold my soul to those bastards.
06:00 <erlich> a few Chinese IPs now
07:00 <erlich> Brazilian IPs generally come up with a lot of torrents, i proibably underestimate their presence on the Internet
08:00 <Tigger_> I restrict google to one browser, and gmail on another browser
08:00 <erlich> which browser for which?
08:00 <Tigger_> I'm afraid that google is still better than Duck Duck Go
09:00 <erlich> better in terms of functionality? or that DDG is effectively useleess in anonymising you
09:00 <Tigger_> with portable Palemoon I can have as many browsers as I like
09:00 <erlich> i see
09:00 <erlich> ill grab that after i do my clean install
09:00 <Tigger_> Google's results are better
11:00 <erlich> Ethanol: i am oftened troubled by OCD/Autism over how much space to allocate for my Linux partitions. it seems no matter how much you give it, eventually you run out somehow
11:00 <erlich> often*
11:00 <erlich> when your local drive is a 500GB SSD with limited space, you have to plan it out properly
12:00 <Tigger_> PARIS — Charlotte Rampling, an Academy Award nominee for best actress, on Friday waded into the furor over the lack of diversity in the Oscar acting categories, saying that the supposed calls to boycott the ceremony were “racist against whites.”
12:00 <Tigger_> Speaking fluent French in an interview with France’s Europe 1 radio, the British actress said that one would “never really know” how the Academy makes its decisions, and that “sometimes maybe black actors didn’t deserve to make the shortlist.”
13:00 <erlich> i remember that year when Halle Berry was all emotional, thinking about how blacks were at the peak of their cultural contribution
13:00 <erlich> never questioning their actual abilities or whether they deserved these awards
13:00 <erlich> easy to accept praise, easy to give criticism
13:00 <Tigger_> when she won the best actress award for Catwoman
13:00 <erlich> the two go hand in hand
13:00 <erlich> hahah that movie is bad
14:00 <erlich> i couldnt watch all of it
14:00 <erlich> did she really win it for that?
14:00 <Tigger_> no
14:00 <erlich> oh ok
14:00 <erlich> but the fact she acepted a role in that speaks volumes
15:00 <erlich> im not sure why the original catwoman was cast as black, i was quite confused as a child
15:00 <erlich> (assuming that was the first one)
15:00 <Tigger_> no
16:00 <erlich> so if she wasnt the first then there was a deliberate deviation then
16:00 <Tigger_> in the 1960s show there were three actresses that played Catwoman, the black one played by Eartha Kitt was towards the very end
16:00 <erlich> probably wouldnt happen in the 50s, 60s yes
17:00 <erlich> i think it's time for breakfast
17:00 <erlich> now that im off olanzapine for good, ive lost my appetite and also need less sleep
17:00 <erlich> i wake up much earlier now
17:00 <Ethanol> erlich: partitioning for dual boot systems is all but a mystery for this humble Linux enthusiast
08:00 <Lish> :) doctor
08:00 <doctor> oops
09:00 <doctor> still working out proper ban maks
09:00 <doctor> masks
09:00 <erotic> thats because you are a dumb cunt
09:00 <erotic> you are ops of chans and dont even know basic commands from the 90's
10:00 <Lish> So aggressive
10:00 <Lish> Relax kid
10:00 <Lish> Hahahaha
11:00 <doctor> He's got mental problems, so I don't want to feed into his depression by taunting him
12:00 <Ozone> doctor, being the bigger man and delivering the bigger insult at the same time
13:00 <doctor> lol
14:00 <doctor> coffee seems to make me more tired when I wake up
15:00 <Lish> Coffee is awful
16:00 <doctor> it really is
16:00 <Ozone> coffee, so good
17:00 <doctor> its the instant stuff so probably not the best coffee around
22:00 <Lish> Doctor, you work?
23:00 <doctor> nah, starting uni this year
24:00 <Lish> Oh what doing
24:00 <doctor> psychology
24:00 <Lish> Awesome
24:00 <Lish> I wan to study again but I'm lazy haha
24:00 <doctor> bachelor of science, so I chose 2 programming units
24:00 <Lish> Nice
24:00 <doctor> yeah, but you work full time so you're excused
25:00 <Lish> Yeah I guess, but I feel like I have time
25:00 <Lish> But I'm lazy haha
26:00 <doctor> could enrol part time and just do 1 unit at a time
29:00 <Lish> Yeah I should do that
29:00 <Lish> Oh no my friend has the same glasses as I got
30:00 <doctor> that is simply not acceptable
30:00 <doctor> demend they hand them over immediately
30:00 <Lish> I feel bad
31:00 <Lish> Because they had them first hahah
35:00 <Lish> Brb
43:00 <Lish> Ethanol
58:00 <tisk> coffee lols
41:00 <ajnin> word
41:00 <ajnin> going to the fucking casino
41:00 <ajnin> first time this year
45:00 <Warren1984> 3 DAYS 3 HOURS 53 MINUTES
46:00 <Warren1984> COUNTDOWN UNTIL SKYWORKS…
46:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is going to have fireworks coming off his roof
57:00 <AndroUser2> Lololololololol
57:00 <JetstreamSam> Mendels
57:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Lololololololol
27:00 <President_Trump> roflllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll @ AndroUser2
27:00 <President_Trump> not intelligent enough to be a highly respected school teacher
28:00 <DoC> Hey mentalson
29:00 <JetstreamSam> LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
29:00 <JetstreamSam> HAYS RECRUITMENT
30:00 <President_Trump> that reminds me, i was watching a bit of the EPL and they have those electronic advertising around the field, HAYS RECRUITMENT kept scrolling
30:00 <President_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
30:00 <President_Trump> couldnt help but think of austnets resident gambling addict and alcoholic mendelson
30:00 <JetstreamSam> LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL @ AndroUser2
31:00 <JetstreamSam> AndroUser2 where is Wei?
33:00 <DoC> LOLLL
33:00 <President_Trump> wei is lying in bed next to him
33:00 <President_Trump> swallowing his HIV meds
34:00 <JetstreamSam> loooooollllll
34:00 <DoC> rofl
34:00 <DoC> AndroUser2, tell us about your failures 
35:00 <JetstreamSam> looooooollll @ AndroUser2
38:00 <President_Trump> mendels did you enjoy taking the foot rest up to the new employee on level 12 because they find it more comfortable?
49:00 <_montag> LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLOLOL
51:00 <tisk> fucken moronic so called mates
51:00 <tisk> cant wait 5minutes
51:00 <tisk> they fucken drive off\
51:00 <tisk> fuck them
52:00 <President_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
07:00 <President_Trump> tisk make a video telling pollock to fuck off
08:00 <JetstreamSam> looll
08:00 <JetstreamSam> yes
08:00 <JetstreamSam> please
08:00 <DoC> lol
08:00 <DoC> make it like 'fuck off pollock midget'
09:00 <JetstreamSam> That would be awesome
09:00 <JetstreamSam> imagine pollock
09:00 <JetstreamSam> he'd lose his shit
10:00 <President_Trump> tell him how much you enjoyed kissing jen
12:00 <JetstreamSam> yes
12:00 <JetstreamSam> and like act it out for us / him
51:00 <doctor> having a lovely time out with Mrs Po
52:00 <doctor> eating cartons of donuts while lying down and making powdered sugar and carpet angels
52:00 <AndroUser2> Doctor is a loser
52:00 <doctor> skip, behave yourself
59:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Doctor is a loser
00:00 <tisk> President_Trump,  i mad pollock a song last night https://soundcloud.com/alisid/dumfuck
00:00 <tisk> made
00:00 <Warren1984> doctor how can I reduce my inattentiveness in the channel?
01:00 <doctor> by starting riveting coversations?
01:00 <Warren1984> lol doctor
01:00 <doctor> i dunno, i only really use IRC now to see if I can ban plivent
02:00 <Warren1984> will lists make me more decisive?
03:00 <doctor> only if you follow them
04:00 <AndroUser2> Doctor would u bang Frederica mogherini?
04:00 <tisk> doctor, i quit drugs
04:00 <tisk> or weed
05:00 <doctor> good work chris
05:00 <doctor> No skip
05:00 <AndroUser2> Y not, lozer
05:00 <tisk> had 2 showers today
05:00 <tisk> shaved last 2 days
06:00 <tisk> need a hair cut
06:00 <doctor> would u skip?
06:00 <doctor> I havent showered yet
06:00 <Warren1984> erlich is Tig a Pig
07:00 <Warren1984> doctor found the 9th planet
07:00 <Warren1984> he has being tracking it for 15,000 years
08:00 <Warren1984> and has photographic evidence to prove it
08:00 <doctor> It's my lifes work
08:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Y not, lozer
08:00 <doctor> I was actually looking for God but found an ugly old planet instead
09:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Doctor would u bang Frederica mogherini?(doctor) No skip
09:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Y not, lozer
10:00 <doctor> because i dont want to
10:00 <DisgruntledGoat> <Warren198418> doctor how can I reduce my inattentiveness in the channel? <-- you say that as if it's a bad thing
11:00 <AndroUser2> Doctor dickhead u still unemployed lozer?
13:00 <KFC_BBL> AndroUser2 is a loser
13:00 <DoC> AndroUser2 is a gambling addict loser
13:00 <AndroUser2> Lololol
13:00 <AndroUser2> Ductor the LOZER
14:00 <JetstreamSam> HAYS RECRUITMENT
14:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Ductor the LOZER
14:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Doctor dickhead u still unemployed lozer?
14:00 <AndroUser2> l
14:00 <KFC_BBL> AndroUser2 bet Istomin to win round 1
15:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Ductor the LOZER(AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Doctor dickhead u still unemployed lozer?
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <KFC_BBL> Tomic will win
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <xm> FUCKNIGGERS: if you pray to me enough i'll give you tips on sure bets
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <KFC_BBL> there you go faggot
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <FUCKNIGGERS> no winnin bets all year
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <FUCKNIGGERS> win what faggot
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <KFC_BBL> you know im good at cricket gambling and it makes you rage
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <KFC_BBL> win round 1 
15:00 <KFC_BBL> [08:35] <KFC_BBL> [21:24] <FUCKNIGGERS> i doubt it
15:00 <KFC_BBL> AndroUser2 bet Istomin to 'win' in Rd 1
16:00 <AndroUser2> ** 'kfc_bbl' added to ignore list. User is ignored for: Channel, Private, Notice, Invite
17:00 <KFC_BBL> owned
17:00 <AndroUser2> Doctor mate
17:00 <KFC_BBL> AndroUser2 is a problem gambler that bet Istomin
17:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Doctor dickhead u still unemployed lozer?
19:00 <President_Trump> mendelson put a weeks wages $220 on australia to beat india, he thought they would do the sweep
19:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Doctor dickhead u still unemployed lozer?
20:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Ductor the LOZER
22:00 <AndroUser2> Doctor you LOZER mate
22:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Ductor the LOZER
23:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) (AndroUser2) Ductor the LOZER
29:00 <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Doctor you LOZER mate
30:00 <KFC_BBL> AndroUser2 thought the aussies were 'unbeatable' to upgrade his black & gold noodles to mi-gorang
46:00 <JetstreamSam> HAYS RECRUITMENT
51:00 <KFC_BBL> AndroUser2 is scared of getting owned so pretnds to block me again
51:00 <KFC_BBL> Everyone knows AndroUser2 bet Istomin in Rd 1
51:00 <KFC_BBL> fucking loser
54:00 <AndroUser2> Ductor u
54:49 Topic Is: National hero Bob Carter dies, gone to his reward after years of fighting the forces of deception with the sword of truth: https://www.heartland.org/robert-m-carter and http://joannenova.com.au/2016/01/bob-carter-a-great-man-gone-far-too-soon/
54:49 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Sat Jan 23 06:59:46 2016
01:54 Join: anotherirc3r ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
02:00 <Ozone> anotherirc3r
02:56 <Ozone> anotherirc3r
03:00 <anotherirc3r> Ozone!!
03:00 <Ozone> how's it hanging? :)
03:32 <anotherirc3r> Ozone!!
03:42 <Ozone> how's it hanging? :)
04:00 <Tigger_> morning all
04:00 <anotherirc3r> good, good!! howw's you?!
04:00 <Ozone> morning
04:00 <Ozone> i'm marvellous
04:00 <anotherirc3r> awesome!
04:16 <Tigger_> morning all
04:19 <anotherirc3r> good, good!! howw's you?!
04:23 <Ozone> morning
04:34 <Ozone> i'm marvellous
04:48 <anotherirc3r> awesome!
08:00 <Tigger_> I've never known how to answer that question "how's it hanging?"
08:00 <anotherirc3r> Tigger!
08:22 <Tigger_> I've never known how to answer that question "how's it hanging?"
08:47 <anotherirc3r> Tigger!
09:00 <AndroUser2> Tigger is a lozer
09:00 <Tigger_> anotherirc3r, how are you tonight?
09:00 <Tigger_> and hello skip
09:38 <AndroUser2> Tigger is a lozer
09:43 <Tigger_> anotherirc3r, how are you tonight?
09:47 <Tigger_> and hello skip
14:00 <erlich> there is also "what's the craic?" which is weird
14:28 <erlich> there is also "what's the craic?" which is weird
15:00 <Tigger_>  : : Does anybody know the origin of this phrase : "How's it hanging?" Does it come from back in the days when hanging was popular? Thanks
15:00 <Tigger_> : Eric Partridge, "A Dictionary of Catch Phrases American and British," mentions some similar phrases that mean "How's your sex life?" They refer to the male organs and are "low" phrases (he says) of U.S. origin, dating from the 1920s.
15:00 <Tigger_> a shame, I wanted it to be a greeting that hangmen would exchange after executing a few people
15:50 <Tigger_> : : Does anybody know the origin of this phrase : "How's it hanging?" Does it come from back in the days when hanging was popular? Thanks
15:50 <Tigger_> : Eric Partridge, "A Dictionary of Catch Phrases American and British," mentions some similar phrases that mean "How's your sex life?" They refer to the male organs and are "low" phrases (he says) of U.S. origin, dating from the 1920s.
16:00 <Ozone> perfect greeting to give women
16:10 <Tigger_> a shame, I wanted it to be a greeting that hangmen would exchange after executing a few people
17:10 <Ozone> perfect greeting to give women
23:00 <DisgruntledGoat> Apu: Hello, steady customer. How's it hanging?
23:00 <DisgruntledGoat> Homer: Low and lazy, Apu.
24:11 <DisgruntledGoat> Apu: Hello, steady customer. How's it hanging?
24:11 <DisgruntledGoat> Homer: Low and lazy, Apu.
26:00 <AndroUser2> I dont get it
26:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm good rhanks Tigger. how's you!?
26:00 <anotherirc3r> hello Skip
26:00 <Tigger_> I am hungry
26:19 <AndroUser2> I dont get it
26:52 <anotherirc3r> i'm good rhanks Tigger. how's you!?
26:55 <anotherirc3r> hello Skip
27:07 <Tigger_> I am hungry
28:00 <Tigger_> meanwhile Lish is in Gold Class eating churros while watching Hateful 8
28:00 <AndroUser2> Hey jen lozer
28:46 <Tigger_> meanwhile Lish is in Gold Class eating churros while watching Hateful 8
28:56 <AndroUser2> Hey jen lozer
30:00 <anotherirc3r> sounds nice
30:00 <anotherirc3r> love you too SKip
30:00 <AndroUser2> Wats plans tonight lozer?
30:25 <anotherirc3r> sounds nice
30:29 <anotherirc3r> love you too SKip
30:54 <AndroUser2> Wats plans tonight lozer?
36:00 <erlich> hmm i still havent seen Office Space and Extract
36:33 <erlich> hmm i still havent seen Office Space and Extract
37:00 <Tigger_> I keep downloading films starring Ray Milland, without any actual intention of seeking out his films
37:00 <erlich> no idea who that is
37:00 <erlich> i just watched a film with that Gilfoyle actor
37:00 <AndroUser2> Cool story
37:00 <erlich> Intruders
37:00 <erlich> it was pretty bad
37:00 <erlich> but he played a psychopath pretty well
37:32 <Tigger_> I keep downloading films starring Ray Milland, without any actual intention of seeking out his films
37:48 <erlich> no idea who that is
37:56 <erlich> i just watched a film with that Gilfoyle actor
37:56 <AndroUser2> Cool story
38:00 <erlich> Intruders
38:00 <Warren1984> erlich helps me manage my inattentiveness and procrastination
38:00 <AndroUser2> Cool story
38:00 <Warren1984> he looks at women as if they are physical objects of pleasure
38:00 <erlich> warren i shall ask you by the end of the night to summarize all the needs of people in the channel that day
38:00 <erlich> so pay attention please
38:03 <erlich> it was pretty bad
38:10 <erlich> but he played a psychopath pretty well
38:23 <Warren1984> erlich helps me manage my inattentiveness and procrastination
38:38 <AndroUser2> Cool story
38:48 <Warren1984> he looks at women as if they are physical objects of pleasure
38:51 <erlich> warren i shall ask you by the end of the night to summarize all the needs of people in the channel that day
38:55 <erlich> so pay attention please
39:00 <Warren1984> lol erlich
39:00 <Warren1984> I think I worked out the enneagram
39:42 <Warren1984> lol erlich
40:00 <Warren1984> type 5 is about knowledge and putting things into categories
40:00 <Warren1984> type 1 is about making lists, not being distracted, focusing on goals, having structure and routine
40:17 <Warren1984> I think I worked out the enneagram
40:35 <Warren1984> type 5 is about knowledge and putting things into categories
41:00 <Warren1984> type 8 is about management of others and yourself
41:00 <Warren1984> type 8 manages inattentiveness found in type 9
41:00 <Warren1984> inattentiveness towards type 7 the present world
41:00 <Warren1984> so not noticing if someones shoes are missing
41:03 <Warren1984> type 1 is about making lists, not being distracted, focusing on goals, having structure and routine
41:19 <Warren1984> type 8 is about management of others and yourself
41:38 <Warren1984> type 8 manages inattentiveness found in type 9
41:57 <Warren1984> inattentiveness towards type 7 the present world
42:00 <Warren1984> someone having different fashions etc maybe totally unimportant to the inattentive person
42:00 <Warren1984> further more indecisiveness can result from inattentiveness
42:00 <Warren1984> indecisiveness is caused by the lack of either type 1 or type 2
42:14 <Warren1984> so not noticing if someones shoes are missing
42:39 <Warren1984> someone having different fashions etc maybe totally unimportant to the inattentive person
42:57 <Warren1984> further more indecisiveness can result from inattentiveness
43:00 <AndroUser2> Cool story
43:00 <Warren1984> type 2 is about the needs and wants of others and type 6 is about what you want/value
43:00 <Warren1984> type 4 is about subjectivity towards the present type 7
43:16 <Warren1984> indecisiveness is caused by the lack of either type 1 or type 2
43:41 <AndroUser2> Cool story
43:42 <Warren1984> type 2 is about the needs and wants of others and type 6 is about what you want/value
44:00 <Warren1984> type 3 is about capitalism, having a fake personality
44:00 <Warren1984> being a high achiever
44:00 <Warren1984> workalcholic
44:00 <Warren1984> avoiding intimacy
44:00 <Tigger_> so most people are type 3
44:16 <Warren1984> type 4 is about subjectivity towards the present type 7
44:31 <Warren1984> type 3 is about capitalism, having a fake personality
44:38 <Warren1984> being a high achiever
44:51 <Warren1984> workalcholic
44:56 <Warren1984> avoiding intimacy
45:00 <Warren1984> where do I fit in?
45:00 <Warren1984> dunno
45:06 <Tigger_> so most people are type 3
45:23 <Warren1984> where do I fit in?
45:26 <Warren1984> dunno
47:33 Nick: JetstreamSam is now known as CodeeKnight
56:00 <erlich> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058557/?ref_=nm_knf_t2
56:00 <BlackDevil> IMDB: Seance on a Wet Afternoon (1964) - 8/10 of 4,392 votes - Stars: Kim Stanley, Richard Attenborough, - Rated: N/A - Runtime: 0secs - Genre: Crime, Drama - Release Date: 5 November 1964 (USA)
56:00 <erlich> this plot sounds funny
56:00 <erlich> you seen it Tigger_ ?
57:00 <Tigger_> no, I've heard of it, but never come across a copy
57:04 <erlich> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058557/?ref_=nm_knf_t2
57:08 <BlackDevil> IMDB: Seance on a Wet Afternoon (1964) - 8/10 of 4,392 votes - Stars: Kim Stanley, Richard Attenborough, - Rated: N/A - Runtime: 0secs - Genre: Crime, Drama - Release Date: 5 November 1964 (USA)
57:10 <erlich> this plot sounds funny
57:14 <erlich> you seen it Tigger_ ?
58:00 <Tigger_> no, I've heard of it, but never come across a copy
58:00 <erlich> they say it is crime/drama, but the idea just sounds like comedy
58:00 <erlich> i only saw the movie because i was looking up Stepford Wives, which im downloading now
58:00 <erlich> because i saw how Mike Judge referenced the movie. ive heard it referenced a few times, but never checked it out
58:20 <erlich> they say it is crime/drama, but the idea just sounds like comedy
58:57 <erlich> i only saw the movie because i was looking up Stepford Wives, which im downloading now
59:00 <erlich> April 24 2016, return of SV 
59:00 <AndroUser2> Cool story
59:00 <Tigger_> too long to wait
59:00 <erlich> yep
59:10 <erlich> because i saw how Mike Judge referenced the movie. ive heard it referenced a few times, but never checked it out
59:23 <erlich> April 24 2016, return of SV
59:51 <AndroUser2> Cool story
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