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00:00:00 <Warren1984> but when you have a needy woman that chases money she will go after it
00:00:00 <Warren1984> but then not all people are gifted with intelligence
00:00:01 <Osskkaarr> [23/09/2015 23:58:43] (IvanTheBastard): warren i think if i understand (maybe) what you were getting at, the truth of the matter is that a large portion of the populaton are self serving
00:00:03 <Osskkaarr> [23/09/2015 23:59:01] (IvanTheBastard): so many people dont do anything for anyone other then themselves
00:00:05 <Osskkaarr> 100%
00:00:21 <Warren1984> but when you have a needy woman that chases money she will go after it
00:01:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah but men are more hungry for money than women
00:01:00 <IvanTheBastard> or maybe its equal, i dunno
00:01:00 <Warren1984> that is true IvanTheBastard
00:01:00 <IvanTheBastard> but i have seen some ruthless fucking dogs out there
00:01:00 <IvanTheBastard> doesnt seem to be as bad for women, maybe testosterone? *shrug*
00:01:00 <Warren1984> also where there is money there is danger
00:01:00 <anotherirc3r> we're worse with other things
00:01:00 <Warren1984> the higher your profile the more likely you will be sort out
00:01:04 <Warren1984> but then not all people are gifted with intelligence
00:01:06 <IvanTheBastard> yeah but men are more hungry for money than women
00:01:12 <IvanTheBastard> or maybe its equal, i dunno
00:01:15 <Warren1984> that is true IvanTheBastard
00:01:19 <IvanTheBastard> but i have seen some ruthless fucking dogs out there
00:01:34 <IvanTheBastard> doesnt seem to be as bad for women, maybe testosterone? *shrug*
00:01:42 <Warren1984> also where there is money there is danger
00:01:50 <anotherirc3r> we're worse with other things
00:02:00 <Warren1984> the higher your profile the more likely you will be sort out
00:02:00 <IvanTheBastard> hahaha like what Jen
00:02:00 <Warren1984> money is the most evil thing
00:02:00 <IvanTheBastard> Warren i think money is fine, i think human greed is the most evil thing
00:02:00 <Warren1984> my laptop has no LAN cable connection
00:02:00 <Warren1984> only wireles
00:02:00 <anotherirc3r> as Warren was saying, some women use sex against guys
00:02:00 <Warren1984> wireless
00:02:00 <anotherirc3r> and withhold sex
00:02:06 <IvanTheBastard> hahaha like what Jen
00:02:19 <Warren1984> money is the most evil thing
00:02:38 <IvanTheBastard> Warren i think money is fine, i think human greed is the most evil thing
00:02:38 <Warren1984> my laptop has no LAN cable connection
00:02:41 <Warren1984> only wireles
00:02:42 <anotherirc3r> as Warren was saying, some women use sex against guys
00:02:44 <Warren1984> wireless
00:02:51 <anotherirc3r> and withhold sex
00:04:00 <Warren1984> time to watch some aircraft investigation
00:04:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah ive seen that weapon used to great effect
00:04:00 <Warren1984> Jen that is only in unhealthy relationships
00:04:00 <IvanTheBastard> infact i think 'The Friendzone' is a good example of that
00:04:34 <Warren1984> time to watch some aircraft investigation
00:04:34 <IvanTheBastard> yeah ive seen that weapon used to great effect
00:04:44 <Warren1984> Jen that is only in unhealthy relationships
00:05:00 <Warren1984> where either side could be unhealthy or just 1 of them
00:05:00 <Warren1984> I mean either 1 side or 2 sides
00:05:00 <anotherirc3r> do they have to be in a relationship for that to happen though?
00:05:00 <Warren1984> usually happens in more mature relationships
00:05:00 <Warren1984> well in mature relationships that is when it breaks away
00:05:00 <IvanTheBastard> probably not alot of passion there if sex is something to be withheld
00:05:01 <IvanTheBastard> infact i think 'The Friendzone' is a good example of that
00:05:07 <Warren1984> where either side could be unhealthy or just 1 of them
00:05:18 <Warren1984> I mean either 1 side or 2 sides
00:05:23 <anotherirc3r> do they have to be in a relationship for that to happen though?
00:05:31 <Warren1984> usually happens in more mature relationships
00:05:51 <Warren1984> well in mature relationships that is when it breaks away
00:06:00 <Warren1984> IvanTheBastard but I guess it's complicated
00:06:00 <IvanTheBastard> yep, marriage, kids
00:06:00 <Warren1984> because the woman may withhold sex because she is being self-absorbed
00:06:00 <doctor> yer if someone isn't interested it's a good measure of emotional adaptivity on how quick you move on
00:06:00 <Warren1984> or she thinks he is too selfish
00:06:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'I'm tired, I have a headache, I'm not in the mood, I've had a bad day"
00:06:02 <IvanTheBastard> probably not alot of passion there if sex is something to be withheld
00:06:19 <Warren1984> IvanTheBastard but I guess it's complicated
00:06:36 <IvanTheBastard> yep, marriage, kids
00:06:39 <Warren1984> because the woman may withhold sex because she is being self-absorbed
00:06:45 <doctor> yer if someone isn't interested it's a good measure of emotional adaptivity on how quick you move on
00:06:53 <Warren1984> or she thinks he is too selfish
00:06:54 <IvanTheBastard> 'I'm tired, I have a headache, I'm not in the mood, I've had a bad day"
00:07:00 <Warren1984> relationships under 40 years old usually don't go down well
00:07:00 <Warren1984> after 40 people breakup but stay friends
00:07:00 <Warren1984> well generally anyway
00:07:25 <Warren1984> relationships under 40 years old usually don't go down well
00:07:38 <Warren1984> after 40 people breakup but stay friends
00:07:44 <Warren1984> well generally anyway
00:08:00 <Warren1984> people realize all along they were incompatible
00:08:00 <anotherirc3r> i didn't with my ex
00:08:00 <Warren1984> they just ignored the early warning signs
00:08:00 <anotherirc3r> we were together for 11 years
00:08:00 <Warren1984> wow that is a long relationship
00:08:00 <IvanTheBastard> that is epic
00:08:00 <anotherirc3r> no goddamned proposal, nothing
00:08:00 <anotherirc3r> THANKS EX
00:08:00 <IvanTheBastard> you're only young tho Jen you guys must have been together since high school?
00:08:00 <anotherirc3r> we met when i was 19
00:08:10 <Warren1984> people realize all along they were incompatible
00:08:19 <anotherirc3r> i didn't with my ex
00:08:26 <Warren1984> they just ignored the early warning signs
00:08:27 <anotherirc3r> we were together for 11 years
00:08:35 <Warren1984> wow that is a long relationship
00:08:40 <IvanTheBastard> that is epic
00:08:43 <anotherirc3r> no goddamned proposal, nothing
00:08:46 <anotherirc3r> THANKS EX
00:08:50 <IvanTheBastard> you're only young tho Jen you guys must have been together since high school?
00:09:00 <anotherirc3r> we met when i was 19
00:09:00 <Tigger_> best thing to do in the friendzone: crack onto all her friends
00:09:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:09:00 <IvanTheBastard> Tigger_ best thing to do is be direct
00:09:00 <anotherirc3r> nice advice
00:09:00 <Tigger_> direct how?
00:09:00 <IvanTheBastard> ive done it a few times and burned relationships
00:09:00 <IvanTheBastard> easy
00:09:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'Lets be friends with benefits'
00:09:00 <Warren1984> what age did you start dating Jen?
00:09:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'No you're just a friend'
00:09:00 <anotherirc3r> 19 Warren
00:09:10 <Tigger_> best thing to do in the friendzone: crack onto all her friends
00:09:25 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:09:28 <IvanTheBastard> Tigger_ best thing to do is be direct
00:09:30 <anotherirc3r> nice advice
00:09:35 <Tigger_> direct how?
00:09:36 <IvanTheBastard> ive done it a few times and burned relationships
00:09:42 <IvanTheBastard> easy
00:09:55 <IvanTheBastard> 'Lets be friends with benefits'
00:09:57 <Warren1984> what age did you start dating Jen?
00:10:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'No you're just a friend'
00:10:00 <IvanTheBastard> "cheers, you're just goodbye'
00:10:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm old now :/
00:10:00 <Warren1984> so you are 30
00:10:00 <Tigger_> but what about cracking onto her friends?
00:10:00 <Warren1984> 19 + 11
00:10:00 <Tigger_> two prime numbers
00:10:00 <IvanTheBastard> the friends thing only work if they have good female friends
00:10:00 <IvanTheBastard> ive noticed chicks who have alot of beta orbiters dont always have alot of female friends
00:10:00 <IvanTheBastard> they like the attention from the guys
00:10:00 <anotherirc3r> how old are you Ivan?
00:10:03 <anotherirc3r> 19 Warren
00:10:04 <IvanTheBastard> "cheers, you're just goodbye'
00:10:08 <anotherirc3r> i'm old now :/
00:10:12 <Warren1984> so you are 30
00:10:13 <Tigger_> but what about cracking onto her friends?
00:10:24 <Warren1984> 19 + 11
00:10:30 <Tigger_> two prime numbers
00:10:31 <IvanTheBastard> the friends thing only work if they have good female friends
00:10:40 <IvanTheBastard> ive noticed chicks who have alot of beta orbiters dont always have alot of female friends
00:10:45 <IvanTheBastard> they like the attention from the guys
00:10:57 <anotherirc3r> how old are you Ivan?
00:11:00 <IvanTheBastard> ah you seen my pic so i cant lie
00:11:00 <IvanTheBastard> how old do you think?
00:11:00 <Warren1984> 45
00:11:00 <IvanTheBastard> HIGH FIVE THIS MAN
00:11:00 <IvanTheBastard> Nah i aint that old
00:11:00 <anotherirc3r> have i!? when?!
00:11:25 <IvanTheBastard> ah you seen my pic so i cant lie
00:11:31 <IvanTheBastard> how old do you think?
00:11:34 <Warren1984> 45
00:11:46 <IvanTheBastard> HIGH FIVE THIS MAN
00:11:58 <IvanTheBastard> Nah i aint that old
00:12:00 <IvanTheBastard> remember i wanted advice on my beard
00:12:01 <anotherirc3r> have i!? when?!
00:12:54 <IvanTheBastard> remember i wanted advice on my beard
00:13:00 <anotherirc3r> you'll have to refresh my memory
00:13:00 <IvanTheBastard> no sorry no cheating
00:13:00 <IvanTheBastard> now i can lie about my age
00:13:00 <Osskkaarr> He's my age.
00:13:00 <anotherirc3r> have i shown you a picture? i can't remember
00:13:00 <Warren1984> Jen is 35
00:13:13 <anotherirc3r> you'll have to refresh my memory
00:13:32 <IvanTheBastard> no sorry no cheating
00:13:39 <IvanTheBastard> now i can lie about my age
00:13:56 <Osskkaarr> He's my age.
00:13:57 <anotherirc3r> have i shown you a picture? i can't remember
00:14:00 <anotherirc3r> yes.. i'm 35
00:14:00 <Warren1984> really?
00:14:00 <Warren1984> I just guessed
00:14:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:14:00 <anotherirc3r> no. you got it right before
00:14:00 <Warren1984> 30?
00:14:00 <Warren1984> I am 31 this year
00:14:00 <IvanTheBastard> im warren's dob in his nick
00:14:01 <Warren1984> Jen is 35
00:14:06 <anotherirc3r> yes.. i'm 35
00:14:11 <Warren1984> really?
00:14:17 <Warren1984> I just guessed
00:14:32 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:14:37 <anotherirc3r> no. you got it right before
00:14:43 <Warren1984> 30?
00:14:56 <Warren1984> I am 31 this year
00:15:00 <Warren1984> lol true IvanTheBastard
00:15:00 <IvanTheBastard> yep
00:15:00 <anotherirc3r> Ivan, have i shown you a picture?
00:15:00 <IvanTheBastard> honestly i woulda guessed mid twenties
00:15:00 <Warren1984> tell Tigger_ he doesn't have to wait to be in the right mood and must force himself to start his structure and routine
00:15:02 <IvanTheBastard> im warren's dob in his nick
00:15:12 <Warren1984> lol true IvanTheBastard
00:15:16 <IvanTheBastard> yep
00:15:22 <anotherirc3r> Ivan, have i shown you a picture?
00:15:42 <IvanTheBastard> yep
00:15:52 <IvanTheBastard> honestly i woulda guessed mid twenties
00:15:58 <Warren1984> tell Tigger_ he doesn't have to wait to be in the right mood and must force himself to start his structure and routine
00:16:00 <Warren1984> he needs to join the army
00:16:00 <anotherirc3r> my sympathies Ivan lol
00:16:00 <Warren1984> eat as fast as he can
00:16:00 <anotherirc3r> lol @ Tigger in the army
00:16:00 <Warren1984> wake up and make his bed as fast as possible
00:16:00 <Warren1984> polish his shoes
00:16:00 <Tigger_> what's so funny about me being in the army?
00:16:00 <Warren1984> brush his teeth
00:16:00 <IvanTheBastard> lol why be sympathetic
00:16:00 <anotherirc3r> i just can't imagine it!
00:16:05 <Warren1984> he needs to join the army
00:16:13 <anotherirc3r> my sympathies Ivan lol
00:16:14 <Warren1984> eat as fast as he can
00:16:18 <anotherirc3r> lol @ Tigger in the army
00:16:31 <Warren1984> wake up and make his bed as fast as possible
00:16:37 <Warren1984> polish his shoes
00:16:37 <Tigger_> what's so funny about me being in the army?
00:16:41 <Warren1984> brush his teeth
00:16:55 <IvanTheBastard> lol why be sympathetic
00:16:58 <anotherirc3r> i just can't imagine it!
00:17:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is a type 4
00:17:00 <Warren1984> and he needs to become a healthy 1
00:17:00 <Warren1984> orderly, hard working, scheduled, organized, routine
00:17:00 <Tigger_> why couldn't I be in the army?
00:17:18 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is a type 4
00:17:25 <Warren1984> and he needs to become a healthy 1
00:17:49 <Warren1984> orderly, hard working, scheduled, organized, routine
00:17:51 <Tigger_> why couldn't I be in the army?
00:18:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ practice doing things as fast as possible
00:18:00 <doctor> i dont think disciplin would help much in a real war. maybe in these war games we have at the moment but in the heat of war its who ever is the most brutal
00:18:00 <Warren1984> in the army you have to eat quickly so you don't die
00:18:00 <Tigger_> actually discipline does count for a lot in war, an army that spazzes out can't achieve strategic objectives
00:18:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has to force himself
00:18:07 <Warren1984> Tigger_ practice doing things as fast as possible
00:18:09 <doctor> i dont think disciplin would help much in a real war. maybe in these war games we have at the moment but in the heat of war its who ever is the most brutal
00:18:19 <Warren1984> in the army you have to eat quickly so you don't die
00:18:53 <Tigger_> actually discipline does count for a lot in war, an army that spazzes out can't achieve strategic objectives
00:18:57 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has to force himself
00:19:00 <Warren1984> esp against procrastination
00:19:00 <anotherirc3r> don't we all? lol
00:19:00 <Warren1984> but that is the commanders job not yours Tigger_
00:19:00 <Warren1984> I need to force myself to cook healthy and not eat junk food
00:19:00 <Tigger_> it's generally the case that societies with highly developed manners are better at war than societies with bad manners, as manners is a lifelong training for discipline
00:19:06 <Warren1984> esp against procrastination
00:19:21 <anotherirc3r> don't we all? lol
00:19:28 <Warren1984> but that is the commanders job not yours Tigger_
00:19:49 <Warren1984> I need to force myself to cook healthy and not eat junk food
00:20:00 <anotherirc3r> sif healthy food
00:20:00 <anotherirc3r> i want maccas
00:20:00 <Tigger_> that's why I'd easily bet on Japan to beat China in a war
00:20:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is the solution to most of your problems in life -> http://similarminds.com/enneagram/type1.html
00:20:00 <progressive> [ Enneagram Type 1 ] - similarminds.com
00:20:01 <Tigger_> it's generally the case that societies with highly developed manners are better at war than societies with bad manners, as manners is a lifelong training for discipline
00:20:05 <anotherirc3r> sif healthy food
00:20:07 <anotherirc3r> i want maccas
00:20:35 <Tigger_> that's why I'd easily bet on Japan to beat China in a war
00:20:41 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is the solution to most of your problems in life -> http://similarminds.com/enneagram/type1.html
00:20:41 <progressive> [ Enneagram Type 1 ] - similarminds.com
00:20:58 Quit: slower ([email protected]) Quit:
00:22:00 <Warren1984> but you are not willing to listen to me
00:22:00 <Warren1984> but then again I don't listen to you
00:22:00 <Warren1984> so I can't be a hyprocrite
00:22:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:22:14 <Warren1984> but you are not willing to listen to me
00:22:23 <Warren1984> but then again I don't listen to you
00:22:34 <Warren1984> so I can't be a hyprocrite
00:22:50 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:25:00 <Tigger_> I've read three Enneagram books, so anything I'd be inclined to implement, I already would have
00:25:25 <Tigger_> I've read three Enneagram books, so anything I'd be inclined to implement, I already would have
00:29:09 Nick: okikAndChat271284 is now known as Marttin
00:35:00 <anotherirc3r> okay
00:35:00 <anotherirc3r> i think it's bed time
00:35:00 <IvanTheBastard> Night sweety
00:35:00 <xm> im going too
00:35:00 <xm> night everyone
00:35:13 <anotherirc3r> okay
00:35:15 <anotherirc3r> i think it's bed time
00:35:52 <IvanTheBastard> Night sweety
00:35:59 <xm> im going too
00:36:00 <anotherirc3r> ninight Ivan
00:36:00 <anotherirc3r> ninight xm
00:36:00 <Tigger_> night anotherirc3r, xm
00:36:02 <xm> night everyone
00:36:23 <anotherirc3r> ninight Ivan
00:36:28 <anotherirc3r> ninight xm
00:36:30 <Tigger_> night anotherirc3r, xm
00:37:00 <anotherirc3r> ninight Tigger
00:37:37 <anotherirc3r> ninight Tigger
00:38:00 <IvanTheBastard> yep guys i think im gonna call it in too, laters!
00:38:59 <IvanTheBastard> yep guys i think im gonna call it in too, laters!
00:40:00 <Tigger_> night ivan
00:40:21 <Tigger_> night ivan
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03:24:04 Topic Is: Sex and ebola, together at last! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-22/whats-new-in-sexually-transmitted-infections/6794204
03:24:04 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Tue Sep 22 15:53:40 2015
04:29:00 <Marttin> Lol tisk
04:31:00 <tisk> why is the world full of idiots
04:31:00 <tisk> like how many fake accounts on shit have these cunts made with my photos
04:31:50 <Marttin> Lol tisk
04:31:50 <tisk> why is the world full of idiots
04:32:00 <tisk> my life
04:32:00 <tisk> is i dont care what ppl think
04:32:00 <tisk> if u dont see me for me
04:32:00 <tisk> fuk off
04:32:00 <Marttin> I dont have any pic of mine on the internet older than 14yo
04:34:00 <tisk> i want meet ppl but theyre all crazyer than me
04:34:00 <Marttin> and that one wasnt upload by me, and perhaps was deleted, since it was in myspace or something from microsoft
04:34:00 <tisk> some one made site calling me pedo
04:35:00 <tisk> about austnet
04:35:00 <Marttin> Lol
04:35:00 <tisk> its like
04:35:00 <tisk> i really like a 60+ yearold woman
04:35:00 <Marttin> But sara was 9?
04:35:00 <tisk> no
04:36:00 <tisk> 27
04:36:00 <Marttin> Ah ok
04:36:00 <Marttin> Who called you pedo. Anyway?
04:36:00 <Marttin> I was told yesterday
04:36:00 <tisk> just the stalker idiots
04:36:00 <tisk> they reckon talking shit about ppl they dont know
04:36:00 <tisk> is a life
04:37:00 <Marttin> Tisk because you do drugs those idiots consider they are above you
04:37:00 <tisk> but they are not
04:37:00 <Tigger_> facebook can only make you depressed, studies have proved this
04:37:00 <tisk> and i quit
04:38:00 <tisk> i got no friends now
04:38:00 <tisk> they all fucken liars
04:38:00 <Marttin> You dont quit, thats the problem, so they reafirmate their possition
04:38:00 <Tigger_> only cats are true friends
04:38:00 <tisk> yep
04:39:00 <tisk> this so called friend has a go at me
04:39:00 <Marttin> Hi tigger
04:39:00 <tisk> yesterday
04:39:00 <Tigger_> hi
04:39:00 <tisk> cause i wouldnt walk to bottle shop after being at funeral all day
04:39:00 <tisk> calls me lazy
04:39:00 <Tigger_> your grandfather's funeral?
04:40:00 <tisk> yes
04:40:00 <Marttin> Funny how I didnt participate yesterday in here and I just heard neither did brett
04:40:00 <Marttin> We are connected
04:40:00 <tisk> i have quit been days
04:40:00 <Marttin> I eidnt even bothered looking, its not like i was controling who came in
04:41:00 <tisk> i cant afford smokes let alone drugs
04:41:00 <Tigger_> don't waste money on smokes and drugs
04:41:00 <tisk> yeah i wish was that easy
04:41:00 <Marttin> Thats not quitting tisk, thats not reaching economicaly the end of the month
04:41:00 <Tigger_> instead buy Socksie the best cat food
04:41:00 <tisk> if i had friends to see that didnt smoke
04:41:00 <tisk> would be good
04:42:00 <Marttin> But you say you dont have friend already
04:42:00 <Marttin> Dont meet those guys and thats it
04:42:00 <tisk> yep
04:42:00 <tisk> cbf letting ne1 in my place nemore
04:42:00 <Marttin> You could buy chocolate instead, it also makes you feel good, and you are too thin
04:43:00 <tisk> rather stay awake all night sleep during day
04:43:00 <tisk> then deal with druggies
04:43:00 <Marttin> Thats doesnt help, the sun also gives us pleasure
04:44:00 <Tigger_> we only need a little bit of sun
04:44:00 <Marttin> That*
04:44:00 <Marttin> 30 min?
04:44:00 <tisk> no smokes
04:44:00 <tisk> :/
04:44:00 <tisk> got coffee but :)
04:45:00 <Marttin> Have you had chips ahoy?
04:45:00 <Tigger_> hmmm, don't think so
04:46:00 <Marttin> Then if you see them on the stands, give it a go
04:46:00 <Marttin> Oreos are ok too
04:46:00 <Tigger_> oh they're a biscuit
04:46:00 <Marttin> There is so much caloric shit on the shopping centres
04:46:00 <Marttin> Yes
04:46:00 <Marttin> What did you think?
04:47:00 <Tigger_> we have Oreos in Australia, but nobody really likes them, the main thing Oreos are used for is breaking them up into tiny pieces to make a chocco frappe
04:47:00 <Marttin> Tisk you should be a junkie of food like 70% of population instead
04:47:00 <Marttin> Lol
04:47:00 <Tigger_> fatness takes a lot longer to kill you
04:47:00 <Tigger_> doesn't destroy your brain either
04:48:00 <tisk> when its day light i getting rid of traces of smoking
04:48:00 <tisk> got no smokes till friday
04:48:00 <tisk> so might just stop
04:49:00 <Marttin> We hope so tisk, you can come here and ask for recommendations any time you want
04:49:00 <tisk> if i stay up i can not smoke easier
04:49:00 <tisk> soon as i sleep i forget i wanta stop
04:49:00 <Marttin> Try it HARD there is a whole life out there (lulz)
04:49:00 <tisk> wake up hanging
04:50:00 <Marttin> Im not an expert on this, but i dont think you are just meant to resist like a champion
04:50:00 <Tigger_> then have a chain tied to your leg so you can't leave, so can't go out and buy smokes
04:50:00 <Marttin> You have to find alternatives, and causes too
04:51:00 <Tigger_> resisting like a champion is the manly way to do it
04:51:00 <Marttin> Yes, but i bet thats how tisk has tried more times, and couldnt
04:51:00 <Marttin> So hevwill have to try other ways
04:52:00 <tisk> nah i havent tried
04:52:00 <tisk> usual smoke after like 4 hours
04:53:00 <Marttin> I dont think keeping your mind on the same topic is good either
04:53:00 <Tigger_> most former smokers become angry anti-smokers, always ranting about how evil smokes are
04:54:00 <Marttin> Tisk can you show us a pic of your bathroom?
04:54:00 <Marttin> Hehe
04:54:00 <tisk> sockzie doesnt smoke
04:54:00 <tisk> so i dont need too
04:55:00 <Marttin> If you have a bathtub you should fill it with warm water and get it with your favourite dessert and soda
04:56:00 <Marttin> You are a d$per, you could be living like a king
04:58:00 <tisk> throw out bongs clean desk empty astrays put them away clean
04:58:00 <tisk> then shower sleep
04:59:00 <Marttin> Shower gives you stimulation 15-30 minutes?
04:59:00 <Marttin> You need to be submerged in water 2 hours at least
05:00:00 <Tigger_> what does the water do?
05:00:00 <Marttin> To me is the greatest feeling
05:01:00 <Tigger_> so this isn't a scientific thing?
05:01:00 <Marttin> Nop
05:02:00 <Marttin> But I see the nordic cultures use it, and so the richest people from the ancient empires
05:02:00 <Marttin> Either greeks, romans or arabs
05:03:00 <Tigger_> they didn't have smokes back then though
05:03:00 <Marttin> They did
05:03:00 <Marttin> Herodoto spoke about cannabis
05:04:00 <Marttin> Is herodoto the historian? I might be speaking about someonelse
05:05:00 <Marttin> Did you know this and you just meant actually 'bongs'?
05:05:00 <Marttin> Anything historical you dont know surprises me, wheter you manipulate it or not
05:06:00 <Tigger_> yes, Herodotus mentioned Afghans 'getting drunk' on a plant they set fire to
05:07:00 <Tigger_> he didn't know what it was they used, since cannabis was unknown in Greece at that time, he just knew that Afghans were drug fiends
05:08:00 <Tigger_> but I was referring to tobacco, which came from the Americas
05:08:41 <tisk> throw out bongs clean desk empty astrays put them away clean
05:08:41 <tisk> then shower sleep
05:08:41 <Marttin> Shower gives you stimulation 15-30 minutes?
05:08:42 <Marttin> You need to be submerged in water 2 hours at least
05:08:42 <Tigger_> what does the water do?
05:08:42 <Marttin> To me is the greatest feeling
05:08:42 <Tigger_> so this isn't a scientific thing?
05:08:42 <Marttin> Nop
05:09:00 <Marttin> If only tisk was addict to tobacco, he could use nicotine patches
05:10:00 <Tigger_> opiates were known to the Romans though, and Emperor Marcus Aurelius had used it to ease the pain of injuries from his battles
05:11:00 <Tigger_> <Marttin> Anything historical you dont know surprises me <- you think I know a lot about history?
05:11:00 <Marttin> Yes
05:11:00 <Marttin> A lot in general
05:12:00 <Tigger_> I see
05:12:00 <Marttin> Lol
05:13:00 <Tigger_> I never really know what I seem like to others
05:13:00 <Tigger_> or the things that people notice, that I think nothing of
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18:35:00 <Tigger_> being absent minded is really just enjoying something so much that you forget all about the things you're meant to do
18:35:00 <Warren1984> Absent-mindedness is where a person shows inattentive or forgetful behaviour.[1] It can have three different causes:
18:35:00 <Warren1984> a low level of attention ("blanking" or "zoning out")
18:35:00 <Warren1984> intense attention to a single object of focus (hyperfocus) that makes a person oblivious to events around him or her;
18:35:00 <Warren1984> unwarranted distraction of attention from the object of focus by irrelevant thoughts or environmental events.
18:44:00 <sparrow> thats where i think having a schedule comes in handy
18:44:00 <sparrow> cuts down on unwarranted distraction by giving you something to do
18:44:00 <Tigger_> what if some things take a lot longer than scheduled?
18:45:00 <sparrow> have a beer
18:46:00 <Tigger_> such as Tolstoy might've started out War and Peace thinking he'd get it done over the weekend
18:47:00 <progressive> [ 404 Not Found ] - 127.0.0.1
18:47:00 <sparrow> pardon me
18:47:00 <sparrow> got a little click spazzy there
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19:37:00 <xm> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-24/pilgrims-killed-in-crush-at-hajj-pilgrimage/6803178
19:37:00 <progressive> [ Hajj pilgrimage: At least 220 pilgrims killed, around 400 injured in stampede - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
19:37:00 <xm> allah obviously cares
19:40:00 <doctor> how does that even happen?
19:41:00 <doctor> time for that part of the world to just disappear
19:42:00 <Tigger_> with hydrogen bombs
19:43:00 <Tigger_> though every year there are those huge stampedes at Mecca
19:51:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-24/government-discussed-bom-investigation-over-climate-change/6799628
19:51:00 <progressive> [ Tony Abbott's department discussed investigation into Bureau of Meteorology over global warming exaggeration claims, FOI documents reveal - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
19:54:00 <Tigger_> he was right to get the bureau looked into, there is a long track record of scientists faking data in all fields, but particularly in climate
20:03:00 <Tigger_> lol:
20:04:00 <Tigger_> Tamawiwy set up the Facebook account using a picture of a red-headed woman he found on Google.
20:04:00 <Tigger_> He was charged after a complaint from a man who said he was tricked into sex with him, on the promise of sex with the woman on the Facebook account and two of her friends.
20:04:00 <Tigger_> A key issue in the case was whether Tamawiwy had misled the man, and consent to the sex was negated.
20:04:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-24/fake-facebook-man-guilty-two-counts-rape-act-court/6802260
20:04:00 <progressive> [ ACT university student found guilty of raping man after luring him through fake Facebook profile - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
20:04:00 <Tigger_> no straight sex for you just yet, must gay sex first
20:10:00 <Lish> Kebab time bitches
20:14:00 <Lish> Boring
20:14:00 <Tigger_> hello Lish
20:14:00 <Tigger_> are you making it yourself?
20:15:00 <Lish> No had it delivered
20:16:00 <ajnin> WTF
20:16:00 <ajnin> what area has that
20:16:00 <Lish> Hahahaha out east
20:16:00 <ajnin> thats like a fucking dream for me
20:16:00 <Tigger_> probably a few places on menulog would
20:16:00 <Lish> There's a chain of kebab places that deliver
20:16:00 <ajnin> I am north east!
20:16:00 <Lish> Delicious
20:16:00 <ajnin> i would be too fat
20:16:00 <ajnin> like fat as fuck
20:16:00 <ajnin> I just had ham steaks
20:16:00 <ajnin> with sowercrout
20:17:00 <Lish> http://wotakebab.com.au/
20:17:00 <progressive> [ Wot a Kebab ] - wotakebab.com.au
20:17:00 <ajnin> sorry
20:17:00 <ajnin> i am west
20:17:00 <ajnin> north west
20:17:00 <ajnin> fuck the east
20:17:00 <ajnin> rich cunts!
20:17:00 <Lish> Hahahahaha
20:17:00 <Lish> Loser
20:17:00 <Lish> Kebabs and chips delivered so good
20:17:00 <ajnin> dont corss that brige or else lol
20:17:00 <Lish> I gotta go to airport tomorrow, that's bad enough
20:17:00 <ajnin> my mates who live in the east call it the bridge to the ghetto
20:18:00 <Lish> Yup lol
20:18:00 <ajnin> i am 15 mins from the tulla
20:18:00 <Tigger_> did you get chips with that?
20:18:00 <Lish> Yeah chips
20:18:00 <Tigger_> oh you did
20:18:00 <Lish> My husband got and I just cut some off his kebab
20:18:00 <Lish> And had like 5 chips
20:18:00 <Tigger_> because I just saw the chips on that site, and they looked nice
20:18:00 <Lish> They are very good chips
20:19:00 <ajnin> i am lucky
20:19:00 <ajnin> that shit would really cut like 30 years from my life
20:19:00 <Lish> Hahaha
20:20:00 <Tigger_> I make excellent falafels, better than most (but not all) kebab shops
20:20:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ from a box ?
20:20:00 <Tigger_> a box?
20:20:00 <ajnin> or you soak the peas overnight
20:21:00 <ajnin> the falafels ?
20:21:00 <Tigger_> oh right, the falafels themselves I buy, I mean the entire falafel roll
20:21:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ please tell me you put pickled turnips
20:22:00 <ajnin> if not.. its just not a real falafel
20:22:00 <Tigger_> I don't think I've ever had a turnip
20:22:00 <Lish> Pickled turnip
20:22:00 <Lish> That's interesting
20:23:00 <ajnin> http://cloud.foodista.com/content/images/dbb4e5cf1324f336b6109e7caea2f7e9984c064e_607x400.jpg
20:23:00 <Tigger_> the ones I use: https://www2.woolworthsonline.com.au/Shop/Search/Products?searchTerm=falafel&name=yumi-s-falafel-sesame-balls&productId=706642
20:23:00 <ajnin> whats wrong with you people LOL
20:23:00 <progressive> [ Woolworths Online - Buy Groceries Online ] - www2.woolworthsonline.com.au
20:24:00 <Tigger_> I've never seen pickled turnips before
20:24:00 <Lish> Me either lol
20:24:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ are you form melb ?
20:24:00 <Tigger_> I have made my own falafel balls before, but it was too much work
20:24:00 <Tigger_> no, QLD
20:24:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ thats ok then
20:24:00 <ajnin> QLD is still very aussie
20:24:00 <ajnin> but Lish
20:24:00 <ajnin> shame!!
20:24:00 <ajnin> https://www.facebook.com/A1BakeryBrunswick
20:24:00 <progressive> [ A1 Bakery ] - www.facebook.com
20:25:00 <ajnin> thats were I get all my middel eastern food
20:25:00 <Lish> Hahaha
20:25:00 <Lish> I don't eat much Middle eastern food
20:25:00 <ajnin> cause they are christan lebos
20:25:00 <ajnin> Lish your missing out
20:25:00 <Lish> I'm expanding as I get older
20:25:00 <ajnin> thay have muzzies working for them
20:25:00 <Lish> But I don't try too much exotic food
20:25:00 <ajnin> i reckon thats got to get them cut
20:26:00 <ajnin> working under a piture of Mary
20:26:00 <ajnin> and Jesus
20:26:00 <ajnin> Lish thats not exotic
20:26:00 <ajnin> its commoners food
20:26:00 <Tigger_> that explains all the Australian flags on their page
20:26:00 <ajnin> exotic is live money brains, or fried bird emberios
20:27:00 <ajnin> weird shit like that
20:27:00 <Lish> Yuck
20:27:00 <Lish> I just eat like tomato sauce and Vegemite
20:27:00 <Lish> Hahahaha
20:27:00 <ajnin> hahaha
20:27:00 <ajnin> move to QLD
20:27:00 <Tigger_> grilled cheese on vegemite toast would probably be considered extremely exotic in other countries
20:28:00 <ajnin> https://www.facebook.com/A1BakeryBrunswick/photos/a.10151650348668878.1073741826.185512338877/10152767042348878/?type=3&theater
20:28:00 <progressive> [ A1 Bakery - Mobile Uploads | Facebook ] - www.facebook.com
20:28:00 <ajnin> thats the best picture
20:28:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ your right
20:28:00 <Lish> Hahaha
20:28:00 <ajnin> my dad travels heaps
20:28:00 <ajnin> and ALWAYS takes vegimite for the locals to try
20:28:00 <Tigger_> their hipsters would be saying "I love grilled cheese on vegemite toast, of course you've never heard of it."
20:28:00 <ajnin> lol
20:28:00 <Lish> Yum that looks nice ajnin
20:28:00 <Lish> What nationality are you?
20:28:00 <ajnin> I am mixed
20:28:00 <ajnin> but I call myself Australian
20:28:00 <ajnin> born here
20:28:00 <ajnin> and love it
20:29:00 <Lish> Mixed with what
20:30:00 <ajnin> Western Europe
20:30:00 <Tigger_> so normal in other words
20:30:00 <Lish> lol
20:30:00 <Lish> I'm mixed with awesome
20:30:00 <ajnin> i think I might have some northen europe blood in there also
20:30:00 <Tigger_> again normal
20:31:00 <Lish> lol
20:31:00 <ajnin> depends who you ask I guess
20:31:00 <Tigger_> https://i.imgur.com/nUIkS.jpg
20:32:00 <Lish> Bad lol
20:34:00 <AndroUser> Tigger eats dog shit
20:34:00 <Tigger_> skip, I only banned you because of your flooding
20:34:00 <AndroUser> Tigger is a loser who nobody respects, or cares about
20:35:00 <AndroUser> Tigger is a totally overrated clown like Chuck Todd
20:35:00 <AndroUser> A real loser
20:36:00 <Tigger_> I can't stop thinking about having a falafel roll now, except I have nothing to make it with
20:39:00 <AndroUser> Tigger
20:39:00 <AndroUser> Have u seen Miller's Crossing
20:40:00 <Lish> I care about him
20:40:00 <AndroUser> 1 of my top 5 mob flicks of all time
20:40:00 <Lish> I love him
20:40:00 <Tigger_> yes AndroUser, Miller's Crossing is wildly antisemitic, in spite of being made by Jews
20:41:00 <AndroUser> Antisemitic how. Just because bernie gets whacked?
20:42:00 <doctor> Antisemierotic
20:42:00 <doctor> Skips banter just doesn't make sense but I can tell he likes you Tigger
20:42:00 <doctor> why else would he come back here?
20:42:00 <AndroUser> Hehe
20:43:00 <AndroUser> Doctor calm ur vagina down
20:43:00 <AndroUser> The adults r talking
20:43:00 <Tigger_> Miller’s Crossing features the most loathsome Jewish villain since Shylock, the bookie Bernie Bernbaum (played by John Turturro, who also played the title role in Barton Fink). Being a small-time grifter, Bernie is also a thinker, but unlike Tom, he has no moral compass whatsoever. Everything to him is just about “angles.” Bernie does, however, have some loyalty to his sister Verna (Marcia Gay Harden), who is similarly sociopathic, p
20:43:00 <Tigger_> rostituting herself both to Leo and to Tom because Bernie sees an angle in it. Verna is so depraved, she even tried to seduce her brother, a homosexual, to “rescue him from his friends.”
20:43:00 <AndroUser> Yeag
20:43:00 <AndroUser> But i think bernie comes off ok
20:44:00 <AndroUser> Until dean Keaton shoots him
20:44:00 <AndroUser> I think hes a very minor part of the movie anyway Tigger_
20:44:00 <AndroUser> If you have seen it
20:45:00 <Lish> The bachelorette is so funny
20:45:00 <AndroUser> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gpcOaPSFwmw
20:45:00 <progressive> [ Miller's Crossing 1990 Crime / Drama Full Movies - YouTube ] - m.youtube.com
20:46:00 <AndroUser> Lish i like u
20:46:00 <AndroUser> Wanna come over and fuck my sister?
20:46:00 <Lish> No
20:47:00 <Lish> You're disturbing
20:47:00 <Tigger_> I see Miller's Crossing as an exploration between the faultlines between assimilated, patriotic jews (the Coen Brothers) and the sort of vicious, parasitic Jew that is featured in antisemitic propaganda, but in this case the Coen brothers agree that the stereotype is true of a certain segment
20:47:00 <AndroUser> Y not. That's rude
20:47:00 <AndroUser> Its ok Tigger. I did not find the movie offensive, as a jew
20:49:00 <AndroUser> In fact im suprised i u even waste ur time quoting it with that interpretation
20:49:00 <Tigger_> I have the bluray rip, I'll have to watch it again sometime, maybe I will watch all the Coen Brothers films in sequence
20:49:00 <Lish> I'm tired
20:49:00 <Tigger_> my favourites are Fargo and Brother Where Art Thou
20:49:00 <AndroUser> Hi Lish
20:49:00 <Lish> I want to go to bed early tonight
20:50:00 <AndroUser> Lish today is thursGAY
20:50:00 <AndroUser> How r u
20:51:00 <Lish> Yes and I am having a half day tomorrow
20:51:00 <Lish> Leaving at lunch time
20:51:00 <AndroUser> My lady boy has made ammends primarily because he wants money
20:51:00 <AndroUser> Lish whatever
20:52:00 <AndroUser> Who really fucking cares
20:52:00 <Tigger_> why do you get a half day?
20:52:00 <doctor> Skip, play nice
20:52:00 <Lish> I'm taking a half day of leave
20:52:00 <Lish> Cause my sister is coming down
20:52:00 <Lish> I care skip
20:52:00 <AndroUser> Tigger obviously because she's off meeting clients you fat loser
20:52:00 <doctor> Are you going to spoil her?
20:53:00 <Lish> When you're cleaning keyboards, I'll be at home
20:53:00 <Lish> Yeah I got her some good presents and we'll eat cake and pancakes!
20:53:00 <AndroUser> Lish thats great
20:53:00 <AndroUser> No one cares
20:53:00 <Lish> People care
20:53:00 <AndroUser> About you and your pathetic career
20:53:00 <Lish> They only don't care about what you say
20:53:00 <AndroUser> Which has lead to no where
20:53:00 <doctor> presents, cake, pancakes and male strippers?
20:53:53 <doctor> Skip, play nice
20:53:53 <Lish> I'm taking a half day of leave
20:53:54 <Lish> Cause my sister is coming down
20:53:56 <Lish> I care skip
20:53:57 <AndroUser> Tigger obviously because she's off meeting clients you fat loser
20:53:58 <doctor> Are you going to spoil her?
20:53:59 <Lish> When you're cleaning keyboards, I'll be at home
20:54:00 <Lish> Yeah I got her some good presents and we'll eat cake and pancakes!
20:54:00 <AndroUser> Lish thats great
20:54:00 <AndroUser> No one cares
20:54:00 <Lish> People care
20:54:00 <doctor> I care Skip
20:54:00 <Lish> Haha noooooo
20:54:00 <doctor> You should not speak on behalf of others, you have not earn that respect
20:54:00 <Lish> Maybe we'll go to Timezone
20:54:00 <doctor> that's just as fun
20:54:00 <doctor> sometimes if you're nice the staff give you free games
20:54:01 <AndroUser> About you and your pathetic career
20:54:01 <Lish> They only don't care about what you say
20:54:01 <AndroUser> Which has lead to no where
20:54:02 <doctor> presents, cake, pancakes and male strippers?
20:54:22 <doctor> I care Skip
20:54:22 <Lish> Haha noooooo
20:55:00 <Lish> That'd be nice!
20:55:00 <Lish> I am always nice
20:55:00 <Tigger_> aside from the miracle of TimeZone still existing, wouldn't the machines be 20+ years old?
20:55:00 <doctor> only the ones that don't give tickets though
20:56:00 <doctor> yeah they're all pretty old, but they keep pretty retro so the indie kids keep it alive and kicking
20:56:00 <Lish> I like the basketball one, that's all I play
20:56:00 <Lish> And I win lots of tickets
20:56:00 <xm> a guy at work knows what Dan Dare is
20:56:00 <xm> i told him you hate DC and Marvel and he said you must be a hipster comic fan
20:57:00 <Tigger_> really?
20:57:00 <doctor> yeah i only play the ticket ones because I like the putty toys you can win
20:57:00 <Lish> Yeah me too lol
20:57:00 <Lish> Spend $50 to get a $5 toy
20:57:00 <Tigger_> there is a hipster comic fan, but they usually read comics about depressed artists sitting alone in a bedroom
20:57:00 <xm> time zone was only good for air hockey and time crisis
20:58:00 <Lish> Air hockey is my second fav
20:58:00 <Lish> But no tickets
20:58:00 <Lish> We will go to pancake parlour and then Timezone
20:58:00 <doctor> I wonder if they have that magnetic putty that interests me
20:59:00 <Tigger_> in the US there are arcade/museums with much older machines like Pacman, Galaga, Donkey Kong, etc.
20:59:00 <xm> and what will they do when the screen dies?
20:59:00 <xm> acgtually cant they just transplant it from another arcade box
21:00:00 <Tigger_> the monitors are a special type for arcade machines, and they are slowly dying out
21:00:00 <Tigger_> the second option is to use old CRT TVs
21:01:00 <Lish> Crown casino has a huge arcade
21:01:00 <Lish> Galactic circus
21:01:00 <Tigger_> but how did the conversation turn to Dan Dare?
21:01:00 <Tigger_> Lish, I will definitely go there
21:02:00 <Lish> When are you coming to Melbourne?
21:02:00 <xm> we were talking about superheroes or something. because Heroes is coming back on
21:02:00 <xm> and then i complained about how the x-men movies ruined it for me
21:03:00 <xm> and then comics came in somehow
21:03:00 <xm> i said if i ever collected comics it'd be x-men
21:03:00 <Tigger_> Lish, no plans, but if I did
21:04:00 <Tigger_> X-Men fill the same nerdish OCD urge as Pokemon, so that fans can compare special powers all day
21:05:00 <xm> pokemon is still popular
21:05:00 <Lish> You should come visit Jen
21:06:00 <Tigger_> she does have a fair few Nintendo cartridges for me to look at
21:06:00 <xm> she also has kitties
21:06:00 <Lish> If that's what you wanna call it
21:07:00 <Lish> Seems closer
21:07:00 <xm> what time you get to work today lish
21:07:00 <Lish> 9.40
21:07:00 <xm> whoa!
21:07:00 <xm> sp ;ate
21:07:00 <xm> so late*
21:07:00 <Lish> Tomorrow going to try to be there at 9
21:07:00 <Lish> I always get in around 9.30
21:07:00 <xm> good girl
21:07:00 <Lish> But I was sleepy
21:09:00 <Lish> What time did u get in
21:10:00 <xm> 9
21:11:00 <xm> actually a lil later
21:11:00 <xm> trying to be 9-5 now
21:11:00 <Lish> Early
21:11:00 <Lish> Why
21:11:00 <xm> and at 10pm i feel dead
21:11:00 <xm> might be hay fever meds dunno
21:11:00 <xm> well im not in IT anymore, where it was more 'whenever'
21:11:00 <xm> in eng you have to work with others all the time
21:11:20 <doctor> You should not speak on behalf of others, you have not earn that respect
21:11:20 <Lish> Maybe we'll go to Timezone
21:11:22 <doctor> that's just as fun
21:11:24 <doctor> sometimes if you're nice the staff give you free games
21:11:25 <Lish> That'd be nice!
21:11:26 <Lish> I am always nice
21:11:26 <Tigger_> aside from the miracle of TimeZone still existing, wouldn't the machines be 20+ years old?
21:11:26 <doctor> only the ones that don't give tickets though
21:11:26 <doctor> yeah they're all pretty old, but they keep pretty retro so the indie kids keep it alive and kicking
21:11:26 <Lish> I like the basketball one, that's all I play
21:11:26 <Lish> And I win lots of tickets
21:11:26 <xm> a guy at work knows what Dan Dare is
21:11:26 <xm> i told him you hate DC and Marvel and he said you must be a hipster comic fan
21:11:26 <Tigger_> really?
21:11:27 <doctor> yeah i only play the ticket ones because I like the putty toys you can win
21:11:29 <Lish> Yeah me too lol
21:11:30 <Lish> Spend $50 to get a $5 toy
21:12:00 <xm> and regular meetings and trips
21:12:00 <Lish> What kind if engineering if you're not in IT
21:12:00 <xm> electrical
21:12:00 <Lish> How did you go from dev to electrical engineer?
21:12:00 <xm> i studied engineering not IT
21:13:00 <Lish> What do you do then as an electrical engineer
21:13:00 <xm> stuff that would cause you to sleep within 30 seconds
21:13:00 <xm> ultimately there is a lot of procurement and project management
21:14:00 <xm> you dont really do r&d in australia for it. it's in Europe where they do that stuff
21:14:00 <Lish> Hmm ok
21:14:00 <xm> you use other people's stuff, there's really no math, you also design systems that are all variations of previous ones before
21:14:00 <xm> it's easier than IT
21:15:00 <xm> IT is way harder
21:15:00 <xm> but engineering projects generally cost more
21:15:00 <xm> there are a million reasons why an IT project can go wrong, but at the same time fixing a bad website could just be changing one line on a server
21:16:00 <xm> whereas with engineering after youve rolled something out it can be very costly to fix a mistake
21:16:00 <Lish> Hmm ok
21:16:00 <Lish> Interesting
21:17:00 <xm> it is a common thing for engineers to become project managers
21:17:00 <xm> im not sure how id go with that
21:17:00 <xm> hopefully you will still be on IRC to mentor me
21:18:00 <Lish> Hahah yeah definately
21:19:00 <xm> programmers are smarter than engineers. but engineering as a degree is harder to complete
21:20:00 <xm> ive met some really dome people that work as engineers
21:20:00 <xm> but you wont last long as an incompetent programmer
21:20:00 <xm> dome/dumb*
21:21:00 <xm> i would love to read stories of dumb programmers that somehow make it under the radar
21:21:00 <xm> like pretending to work all day
21:21:00 <xm> or having their colleagues spend all day correcting their bugs
21:21:00 <xm> they probably cause more harm to a workplace
21:21:00 <Lish> lol
21:22:00 <xm> WE GET A LONG WEEKEND IN PATH
21:22:00 <xm> PERTH*
21:22:00 <xm> yayyyyy
21:22:00 <xm> i also bought a paperwhite kindle Lish !
21:22:00 <xm> should get it next week
21:22:00 <Tigger_> there was a guy who though he was a good programmer, secretly outsourced his own job to China, and all he did all day was watch cat videos
21:23:00 <Lish> Nice
21:23:00 <Lish> How much was it
21:23:00 <Tigger_> actually I only got my Kindle because Lish got one
21:23:00 <Lish> lol
21:23:00 <xm> it was $131 with a free cover
21:23:00 <Lish> Nice one
21:23:00 <xm> leather case
21:24:00 <xm> and paperwhite is backlit which is the main reason why i got it
21:24:00 <xm> it is 6"
21:24:00 <Lish> Yeah I got my sister a paper white
21:24:00 <Tigger_> I think my old Kindle was about $170
21:24:00 <xm> what size do you go guys have
21:24:00 <Tigger_> does she read much?
21:24:00 <xm> Lish, how great is it?
21:24:00 <xm> ideally i would have 8"
21:24:00 <Tigger_> mine is 7" I believe, though that's the unit size, not the screen
21:25:00 <Lish> Yeah she reads a bit
21:25:00 <Tigger_> prom bought a 9" Kindle, which has been phased out now
21:25:00 <Lish> I used my iPad now
21:25:00 <xm> Lish, but what do you think of the paperwhite>
21:25:00 <xm> ?
21:25:00 <Tigger_> the Kindle sales are not very great, so they couldn't sustain the bigger model
21:26:00 <Lish> I think it's good, I haven't looked at it much
21:26:00 <Lish> Tablets took over kindles
21:27:00 <Lish> People don't get how bad tablets are to read on and now amaze kindles are
21:27:00 <Lish> They think they are the same thing
21:27:00 <xm> battery life is another thing for me
21:27:00 <xm> i wonder if i can surf the net with the the paperwhite. i doubt it
21:28:00 <Tigger_> you can, but not very well
21:28:00 <Tigger_> it only allows access to Amazon and wikipedia though
21:29:00 <xm> probably because of security
21:29:00 <xm> wikipedia isnt too bad. i might want to look up definitions for things i dont know
21:29:00 <Tigger_> actually I think that's the free 3G mode, which not all Kindles have
21:30:00 <Tigger_> it's $20 more for the 3G model or something
21:30:00 <Lish> I need to pee
21:30:00 <Tigger_> classic Lish line
21:30:00 <Lish> True though
21:30:00 <Lish> Too lazy to get up
21:32:00 <Lish> That happened last night, I needed to pee but didn't want to get up cause it was cold
21:32:00 <Tigger_> so what happened then?
21:32:00 <xm> warm in perth lately
21:34:00 <Lish_> Whoops
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21:38:00 <Lish_> Omg stop being so dull
21:38:00 <Tigger_> I'm downloading a Scooby Doo movie
21:39:00 <Tigger_> Scooby-Doo Stage Fright (2013) 1080p BluRay x264-DeBTViD.mkv
21:39:00 <Lish_> With Sarah Michelle gellar ?
21:39:00 <Lish_> And Freddie prince?
21:39:00 <Tigger_> no, this is a cartoon
21:42:00 <Lish_> Oh
21:43:00 <Lish_> I'm watching law and order
21:43:06 <Lish_> Whoops
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21:43:07 <Lish_> Omg stop being so dull
21:45:00 <ajnin> http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/paraplegic-man-walks-after-bypass/story-fnpjxnqt-1227542624939
21:45:00 <progressive> [ Paraplegic man walks after ‘bypass’ ] - www.news.com.au
21:46:00 <ajnin> thats fuckign unreal
21:47:00 <Lish_> Just saw the heroes ad
21:48:00 <ajnin> how did that show turn into shit as fast
21:48:00 <ajnin> i used to like it at the start
21:49:00 <ajnin> then BAM
21:49:00 <ajnin> turned shit
21:49:00 <ajnin> good night
21:49:00 <AndroUser2> Ajnin
21:49:00 <AndroUser2> U comin out tonight
21:49:00 <Tigger_> I wonder how he became a paraplegic? riding a motorbike?
21:49:00 <Tigger_> night ajnin
21:49:00 <AndroUser2> Tigger is ajnin goin to bed
21:50:00 <Tigger_> yes
21:51:00 <xm> Lish, yeah i just mentioned that to Tigger_ before
21:51:00 <xm> also they are making a TV series out of that movie Limitless
21:51:00 <Lish_> Weird
21:51:00 <Lish_> Why would they bring heroes back
21:52:00 <xm> because all those superhero TV shoes are popular now
21:52:00 <xm> Arrow, Avengers, SHIELD
21:52:00 <xm> and so on
21:52:00 <xm> ive forgotten the rest
21:52:00 <xm> Arrow is quite popular
21:53:00 <xm> when it first came out all the archery places in Perth got booked out for the season
21:53:00 <xm> Lish, but did you watch the original?
21:53:00 <Lish_> Only the first season
21:54:00 <Lish_> I don't really remember it
21:54:00 <xm> it wasnt really worthwhile remembering after the first season
21:54:00 <Tigger_> apparently this Limitless subscribes to the Scientology claim that we only use 10% of our brain
21:54:00 <xm> i enjoyed Limitless even though it was silly. it's really a bloke's kinda movie
21:55:00 <xm> plus it had that cute Australian girl that was in Somersault
21:55:00 <xm> that even GreekSnake would turn for
21:55:00 <xm> (he said)
21:56:00 <Tigger_> I know the one, though I've never seen Somersault
22:00:00 <Tigger_> A Hackaday author told the hackers that it isn't worth making your own PC boards anymore. Good tools, fast shipping, and cheap manufacturing capacity means that spending a day making a board that is much worse than a 'pro' board just isn't worthwhile anymore. The reaction was worse than when Kirk told the Star Trek fans to get a life. Although there have been some who agree, many of the readers have taken it as an affront to their very way
22:00:00 <Tigger_> of life.
22:02:00 <xm> i didnt even know people made their own PC boards
22:11:00 <Lish_> Wow it's ethanol
22:11:00 <Tigger_> http://hackaday.com/2015/09/21/why-are-you-still-making-pcbs/
22:11:00 <progressive> [ Why are You Still Making PCBs? | Hackaday ] - hackaday.com
22:11:00 <Tigger_> wb Ethanol
22:14:00 <Ethanol> When you can get a single 4-layer PCB manufactured for less than $50, why wouldn't you make a PCB?
22:15:00 <Ethanol> I don't know anyone who etches their own PCB any more
22:15:00 <Lish_> Where have you been Ethanol
22:16:00 <Ethanol> busy
22:17:00 <Lish_> Doing what
22:18:00 <IvanTheBastard> hello friends
22:19:00 <Lish_> Ivanka
22:19:00 <IvanTheBastard> is this an imitation lish
22:20:00 <Lish_> Imitation?
22:20:00 <IvanTheBastard> there is an underscore after your name
22:21:00 <Lish_> Oh haha
22:21:00 <Lish_> I didn't even notice
22:21:00 <IvanTheBastard> wats goin on sweety
22:21:00 <Tigger_> the nerd version of SJWs are out in force defending the black muslim clock maker, mistakenly thinking that he is one of them: http://hackaday.com/2015/09/18/i-built-a-clock-to-spread-awareness-now-its-your-turn/
22:21:00 <progressive> [ I Built a Clock to Spread Awareness. Now It’s Your Turn | Hackaday ] - hackaday.com
22:21:00 <Lish_> Watching law n order
22:24:00 <Ethanol> The components are REAL simple – start with a table clock, remove all screws, spread contents around the inside of a briefcase… There, you’ve just ‘invented’ a clock just like Ahmed’s…
22:25:00 <IvanTheBastard> if anyone believes that little cunt they are just retarded as him
22:25:00 <IvanTheBastard> i havent decided yet if i think he's brilliant or just a complete stuipd fuck who won out on a really retarded idea
22:25:00 <IvanTheBastard> i mean there's no doubting what soever that he actually didnt invent jack shit
22:25:00 <Ethanol> http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/100CB/production/_85593756_cases_cut.jpg
22:26:00 <Ethanol> lol fully exposed mains wiring
22:28:00 <IvanTheBastard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R5peL26L-U
22:29:00 <IvanTheBastard> #IStandWithAhmed: "The whole family is stupid and they duped us"
22:31:00 <IvanTheBastard> if i saw a mainboard with some obvious soldering, and a really pov looking get up i could be really convinced
22:31:00 <IvanTheBastard> but its clear the little faggot just smashed a plastic digital clock and put the insides inside a metal suitcase
22:31:00 <Tigger_> but he has rocketed up to be the world's most Famous Black Inventor
22:31:00 <Ethanol> did he ever explain the purpose of the white powder (which kind of looks like a Hollywood depiction of C4)?
22:31:00 <Tigger_> it's a peculiar thing to do, even when I was 5 years old I'd have completely understood that nothing had been invented, and a clock had been broken
22:31:00 <Tigger_> I sort of hope for his sake it really was a hoax, and he's not that stupid to think he was inventing something
22:31:00 <progressive> [ #IStandWithAhmed: "The whole family is stupid and they duped us" - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
22:31:00 <Tigger_> I read a comment somewhere that in Palestine that the muslims are always doing false positive 'attacks' that turn out to be nothing, so that the Israeli's get bad PR for cracking down on the seemingly innocent
22:31:00 <Tigger_> it looks like 'our' muslims are starting to employ the same strategy
22:31:00 <IvanTheBastard> and yep im gonna say it - it looks like a fucking bomb