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00:40 <Tigger_> Queensland Police Constable Reis Maher said it had been great to march and be in uniform.
00:40 <Tigger_> "I marched down in Mardi Gras last year with my partner, who was in the Navy at the time, which was a fantastic experience," he said.
00:53 <Ethanol> lol
01:32 <happy-lil-camper> was there a navyman in village people?
01:45 <happy-lil-camper> i know there was a cop
01:52 <Tigger_> the all purpose black military guy
02:14 <Tigger_> nobody really ever noticed him much
02:47 <happy-lil-camper> btw you were right about this laser vinyl thing. it really does go back to the 80s
02:56 <happy-lil-camper> if this player was $500 id consider
03:13 <happy-lil-camper> obviously $15k is insane, and probably USD too
03:13 <Tigger_> Alexander "Alex" Briley (born April 12, 1947) performs the "G.I." role in the disco era music group, Village People.[1]
03:14 <Tigger_> In 2005, Briley's brother Jonathan was identified by several people as The Falling Man — the figure depicted in the iconic photo of a man falling from the World Trade Center during the September 11 attacks.[3]
03:47 <happy-lil-camper> why did they jump? too hot from teh inside?
03:55 <happy-lil-camper> just wanted to get over it?
04:06 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder how quickly people died during the collapse
04:22 <happy-lil-camper> i need the advice of something who is an engineer and chemist and doctor... strum
04:28 <happy-lil-camper> someone*
04:41 <Tigger_> The party, scheduled for August 22, will be Studio 54-themed, with all guests invited to dress up as either the cowboy, the Indian, the construction worker, GI, leatherman or policeman.
04:41 <Tigger_> Trouble erupted when Wilzig also invited Felipe Rose, founding member and Indian in the Village People. When Rose found out that Jones was performing, he "flipped out," according to a Page Six "source", "He wanted Randy disinvited."
04:41 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/the-village-peoples-indian-and-cowboy-reportedly-at-war-20150803-giq271.html#ixzz3mC2qZOK5
04:42 <Tigger_> Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook
04:42 <progressive> [ The Village People's Indian and cowboy reportedly at war ] - www.smh.com.au
05:07 <Tigger_> the funny thing is that the cowboy and the indian were the only two genuine gays in the Village People, and they hate each other
05:53 <Tigger_> it probably goes back to traditional cowboy and indian rivalry
05:58 <happy-lil-camper> lol
06:17 <anotherirc3r> haha Little Britain!
06:48 <Ethanol> that's a bit like this channel
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08:00 <happy-lil-camper> i didnt notice fibry there
08:22 <Tigger_> the way that greeksnake and doctor have barely said three words to each other in years?
08:45 <happy-lil-camper> i havent noticed that
08:49 <happy-lil-camper> but this is true
09:10 <happy-lil-camper> i only noticed greeksnake talking about doctor recently, and it was a rude remark
10:16 <Tigger_> it's interesting how skip's dynamics with various people have shifted since he became openly gay
10:30 <happy-lil-camper> im a little lost with skips
10:39 <happy-lil-camper> it's official?
10:59 <happy-lil-camper> his alcoholism did suggest he was gay
11:10 <happy-lil-camper> for some gays in denial that is how tehy cope
11:25 <Tigger_> yes, it's official
11:49 <happy-lil-camper> how so? what did he do/say?
12:00 <happy-lil-camper> he talks so much rubbish it's hard to keep track
12:04 <Tigger_> well he said bisexual, but that really means gay
12:12 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder if Lish is upset now
12:31 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he was ranting about some young guy that always wants to meet up at 4am coz he thinks he's using him for sex and a place to stay at night
12:39 <happy-lil-camper> she might have liked the idea of a straight guy adoring her, even if she didnt want to reciprocate
13:00 <anotherirc3r> i think it's cute the way he dotes on her
13:59 <happy-lil-camper> girls have told me that they find bisexual men more horrifying than gays'
14:09 <Tigger_> <skip> GreekSnake, I need to make passionate love to a sexy, manly man, who can do whatever he wants with me, who knows when to treat me rough, and when to treat me gentle, so GreekSnake.... do you have damio's phone number?
14:23 <happy-lil-camper> lmao!
14:53 <anotherirc3r> interesting
15:01 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lol
15:14 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> anotherirc3r was interested in learning more about mentalson
15:30 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> potential
15:55 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder what vaness has always thought about skips in regards to his sexuality, if she saw the gay early on
16:05 <happy-lil-camper> IRC is one thing, but meeting up with someone is another
16:26 <happy-lil-camper> your perception of someone changes completely once you meet
16:29 <Tigger_> as far as I can tell he is a virgin with women
16:36 <happy-lil-camper> many things abandoned, many things learned
19:09 <Tigger_> much like still in the closet plivent
19:31 <happy-lil-camper> perhaps he hit on her so tragically so that stories would circulate on IRC that he was a 'pathetic desperate but hetero loser' than some plain gay
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20:13 <happy-lil-camper> you dont believe he has a job do you ?
20:19 <Tigger_> I'd laugh if taco made up the story his abo wife just as a cover for being gay
20:27 <happy-lil-camper> well the description he claims
20:36 <happy-lil-camper> taco is getting really weird these days
20:45 <happy-lil-camper> he sounds like a totally differentn person
20:51 <Tigger_> I'm starting to entertain the idea that skip has a job
21:08 <Tigger_> how so with taco?
21:11 <happy-lil-camper> i think he has some sort of job, but i think he's exaggerating about something
21:20 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> skip will be without a job when he doesnt make it through probation
21:24 <happy-lil-camper> taco just sounds like a bot making random abusive comments these days
21:29 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> and he will back to his alco raging best
21:29 <happy-lil-camper> oh yeah i forgot about hat
21:34 <Tigger_> which channels is taco in?
21:35 <happy-lil-camper> one thing to get a job one thing to keep it
21:38 <happy-lil-camper> #melb
21:49 <happy-lil-camper> he's quite hated
22:04 <Tigger_> he should come in here, we won't ban him
22:26 <happy-lil-camper> i quite liked him ages ago. i dont hate him now, but he just seems like a different person
22:54 <happy-lil-camper> maybe his IRC server failing triggered something deeper
23:02 <Tigger_> I've never hated him, I always found the persona quite entertaining
23:07 <happy-lil-camper> it is
23:26 <happy-lil-camper> he keeps defending stuff even when it's evidently and patently wrong'
23:43 <happy-lil-camper> denial can be very powerful when the truth is unbearable
24:00 <Tigger_> his assertion that slingshots are against federal law
24:06 <happy-lil-camper> lol
24:55 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he is upset coz people werent believing he is a real life cop
25:46 <Tigger_> he could arrest them for breaking irc law
26:15 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> grubs would have all the info on him
26:42 <grubs> Who are we talking about ?
26:59 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> taco
30:01 <anotherirc3r> shall i invite him here?
30:05 <anotherirc3r> he'll probably ignore me lol
31:48 <Tigger_> yes, invite him in
32:07 <grubs> Peter Hoskin is his name.
32:22 <grubs> Lives in Katoomba
32:51 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> pics
33:49 <grubs> it's not hard
34:00 <Tigger_> so what does he really do?
34:39 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> computer consultant
35:04 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> http://peterhoskin.biz/
35:06 <progressive> [ Peter Hoskin & Associates ] - peterhoskin.biz
36:43 <anotherirc3r> yup. he's ignoring me lol
36:51 <anotherirc3r> someone else do it
36:56 <Tigger_> his business doesn't seem to offer many things
37:45 <Tigger_> how was this discovered?
38:17 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the blog hasnt been updated for 2 years
38:27 <happy-lil-camper> i remember when he was confronted with this
38:35 <happy-lil-camper> he claimed it belonged to his old boss
38:53 <happy-lil-camper> but the thing is he told me he used to work programming POS
39:28 <happy-lil-camper> and said they werent written in Delphi, which most are i think
39:46 <happy-lil-camper> it would be strange to go from POS programming to that small role at a little IT company
40:37 <happy-lil-camper> but if you're going to fake an identity you wouldnt use the details of someone that were actually connected to you, or verify their claim that you know them somehow
40:41 <Tigger_> he did his site with wordpress, so no 1337 points from me
46:04 <Ozone> yu&h
49:08 <happy-lil-camper> hows dem cats
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51:20 <happy-lil-camper> those sinister kittens even pulled out the plug
53:38 <happy-lil-camper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny23mt0G5p8
53:39 <progressive> [ Tiesto pres. Allure - The Loves We Lost (Original Mix) (2006) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
53:42 <happy-lil-camper> strange i dont remember this
54:33 <Tigger_> I've not heard it
55:15 <anotherirc3r> xm, sing something and record it for us
55:44 <happy-lil-camper> nah 2night is listening not singing night
55:56 <happy-lil-camper> but the idea of singing for a song of my own has been on my mind for a while now
55:56 <anotherirc3r> as if!
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57:07 <Tigger_> this grows on me
57:45 <happy-lil-camper> it's a bit haunting later on isnt i?
58:08 <happy-lil-camper> yeah, it's a good song. which is why i find it odd i havent heard of it before
58:09 <Tigger_> yes
02:46 <anotherirc3r> i'm listening to Reggae atm
04:33 <happy-lil-camper> oh he uploaded schiller too Tigger_
04:40 <happy-lil-camper> you might like his channel then
05:06 <happy-lil-camper> although it was a tiesto remix of a schiller track
05:16 <happy-lil-camper> das glockenspiel
05:32 <Tigger_> one of the early tracks
05:46 <Tigger_> the most amazing live performance from Schiller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQWbRrFrzKg
05:47 <progressive> [ Nachtflug / Schiller / Symphonia - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
06:04 <happy-lil-camper> yes, it's a trane classics channel. i feel like hunting down old tracks i can never rmeember hte names of
07:01 <happy-lil-camper> pretty good one
07:08 <happy-lil-camper> and i like how serious the atmosphere is
07:18 <happy-lil-camper> if you've seen what goes down at trance fests thesew days it's a joke
07:36 <grubs> Taco's gone
07:39 <happy-lil-camper> fireworks, even little plays, backup dancers etc
07:46 <grubs> [20/09/2015 01:06:01] *** Quits: Taco ([email protected]) (Z-Lined)
08:39 <happy-lil-camper> im pretty sure i could get my dad into schiller
08:46 <happy-lil-camper> Asians love this sort of music
09:07 <happy-lil-camper> (not trying to turn you off schiller!)
09:24 <happy-lil-camper> Armin and Jarre have recently collaborate4d
09:29 <happy-lil-camper> i didnt like it though
09:49 <anotherirc3r> he was a snob anyway
09:53 <Tigger_> I've seen a Chinese orchestra performing some Chinese composition, it was bizarrely over the top. I was surprised they didn't use cannons too
10:10 <happy-lil-camper> lmao
11:16 <happy-lil-camper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRwYx8w1clk
11:17 <progressive> [ Jean-Michel Jarre, Armin van Buuren - Stardust (Audio) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
11:18 <happy-lil-camper> ok it's not that bad
11:19 <Tigger_> a lot of people would hear this Schiller piece and have no idea that it's trance, a subterfuge that I quite like
11:22 <happy-lil-camper> but it could be better
12:01 <happy-lil-camper> it's just too happy
13:03 <Tigger_> sometimes when you get greats together you get less than each of them
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13:49 <Tigger_> I wish this would get a bluray release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-44tRKeigp8
13:49 <progressive> [ Armin van Buuren - Blue Fear (Performed by Classical Orchestra) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
15:02 <happy-lil-camper> uplifting trance contains a lot of orchestral sections
15:11 <happy-lil-camper> but it seems to be hit and miss
15:36 <happy-lil-camper> the "in thing" is to have really, really simple piano fingering and it sounds so bad -- but it's intentional
15:55 <happy-lil-camper> i cringe at it
16:39 <happy-lil-camper> simple is good but not the sort of simple that everybody does again and again
27:09 <happy-lil-camper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZalmlWnCM
27:10 <progressive> [ En-Motion - Truth (Original Mix) (2000) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
27:33 <happy-lil-camper> i used to listen to this a bit but then stopped for years until now
36:13 Topic Is: How a feminist almost bankrupted Gnome, for nothing: http://www.zdnet.com/article/gnome-bled-dry-by-outreach-programs/ | Where are P2 when you need them? The hypocrisy of the social media Pope laid bare: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-vatican-shelter-families-fleeing-war-hunger-33568171
36:13 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Fri Sep 11 19:19:46 2015
37:41 <happy-lil-camper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FpJj3f6h1I
37:42 <progressive> [ Aurora - Hear You Calling (En Motion Remix) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
37:54 <happy-lil-camper> vocals dont add much to it, but the synths during the breakdown are nice
39:04 <happy-lil-camper> im thinkin g of making a parody video based on this scammer on YT. im assuming that 1) it's obviously a parody 2) the guy is a scammer... i wont get in trouble
39:22 <happy-lil-camper> i suppose there is always a take down notice
41:47 <happy-lil-camper> during breakdowns when the ambient pads (that atmospheric sound) and vocals kick in i feel ike it's an orchestral going soft... and then when synths kick in with intensity i feel like it's the orchestra equivalent of lush strings
41:53 <Tigger_> Free Radical didnt do much for me
48:45 <Tigger_> neither did Aurora
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50:55 <tisk> ne1 awake
50:58 <tisk> ???????
51:56 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> tisk
52:02 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> show us a pic of your cock
52:11 <tisk> nup
53:17 <tisk> smoke bongs listen to same song over and over
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54:17 <happy-lil-camper> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAhAH5RvoUM
54:18 <progressive> [ Dido | No Angel FULL ALBUM - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
55:35 <tisk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAOzRKvPmU0
55:36 <progressive> [ Gouryella friday 18th 2015 remix - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
31:04 <tisk> made a song lolz
37:49 <tisk> https://youtu.be/WLK--Bddsw8
37:50 <progressive> [ communications trance traxx 2015 - YouTube ] - youtu.be
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31:00 <ajnin> Hello
31:40 <ajnin> Hello
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00:00 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Ajnin
00:49 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Ajnin
10:00 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> How much did u pay for iron Maiden tickets
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10:15 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> How much did u pay for iron Maiden tickets
31:00 <ajnin> Great^Wall^Of^Trump 155 each
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31:51 <ajnin> Great^Wall^Of^Trump 155 each
33:00 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Sounds a little pricey
33:31 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Sounds a little pricey
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43:00 <ajnin__> [10:33] <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Sounds a little pricey
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43:00 <ajnin__> [10:42] <ajnin> yea
43:00 <ajnin__> [10:42] <ajnin> but its a full on show
43:00 <ajnin__> [10:42] <ajnin> and they are old
43:00 <ajnin__> [10:43] <ajnin> happy for them to make money and realx to a good life
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43:23 <ajnin__> [10:33] <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Sounds a little pricey
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43:23 <ajnin__> [10:42] <ajnin> yea
43:23 <ajnin__> [10:42] <ajnin> but its a full on show
43:23 <ajnin__> [10:42] <ajnin> and they are old
43:23 <ajnin__> [10:43] <ajnin> happy for them to make money and realx to a good life
56:00 <Warren1984> what is this about ajnin__
57:06 <Warren1984> what is this about ajnin__
18:00 <Warren1984> ajnin__ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvr7r-HbaY
18:00 <progressive> [ Swedish House Mafia ( Until Now Album ) Official - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
18:10 <Warren1984> ajnin__ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvr7r-HbaY
18:11 <progressive> [ Swedish House Mafia ( Until Now Album ) Official - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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02:00 <Tigger_> morning superfriends
02:10 <Tigger_> morning superfriends
07:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
07:53 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
08:00 <Warren1984> lost most of my outlook data
08:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984 
08:00 <Warren1984> so annoying
08:00 <Tigger_> what happened?
08:00 <Tigger_> did you have a backup?
08:00 <Warren1984> I thought you were starting your routine today Tigger_
08:00 <Tigger_> yes I am
08:36 <Warren1984> lost most of my outlook data
08:37 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
08:39 <Warren1984> so annoying
08:43 <Tigger_> what happened?
08:53 <Tigger_> did you have a backup?
08:54 <Warren1984> I thought you were starting your routine today Tigger_
09:00 <Tigger_> and I am doing it by the book
09:00 <Warren1984> I did but only in march this year
09:00 <Warren1984> because outlook kept on giving errors
09:00 <Tigger_> isn't there a way to automatically back it up?
09:01 <Tigger_> yes I am
09:11 <Tigger_> and I am doing it by the book
09:11 <Warren1984> I did but only in march this year
09:23 <Warren1984> because outlook kept on giving errors
09:27 <Tigger_> isn't there a way to automatically back it up?
10:00 <Warren1984> trying to figure out how to make it work
10:36 <Warren1984> trying to figure out how to make it work
12:00 <Warren1984> hoping scan .pst will fix it
12:34 <Warren1984> hoping scan .pst will fix it
13:00 <Warren1984> microsoft outlook inbox repair tool
13:00 <Tigger_> MS Outlook seems very unreliable
13:09 <Warren1984> microsoft outlook inbox repair tool
14:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why not be an ISTJ
14:00 <Tigger_> can you choose to be an ISTJ?
14:00 <Warren1984> no but you can behave as one
14:01 <Tigger_> MS Outlook seems very unreliable
14:30 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why not be an ISTJ
14:49 <Tigger_> can you choose to be an ISTJ?
15:00 <Warren1984> https://www.personalitypage.com/ISTJ.html
15:06 <Warren1984> no but you can behave as one
15:54 <Warren1984> https://www.personalitypage.com/ISTJ.html
16:00 <Warren1984> Organized and methodical in their approach, they can generally succeed at any task which they undertake
16:00 <Warren1984> ISTJs more often tend to believe that things should be done according to procedures and plans. If an ISTJ has not developed their Intuitive side sufficiently, they may become overly obsessed with structure, and insist on doing everything "by the book"
16:00 <Tigger_> that would only be faking it
16:16 <Warren1984> Organized and methodical in their approach, they can generally succeed at any task which they undertake
16:48 <Warren1984> ISTJs more often tend to believe that things should be done according to procedures and plans. If an ISTJ has not developed their Intuitive side sufficiently, they may become overly obsessed with structure, and insist on doing everything "by the book"
17:00 <Warren1984>  they will resist putting energy into things which don't make sense to them, or for which they can't see a practical application.
17:00 <Warren1984> The ISTJ has little use for theory or abstract thinking, unless the practical application is clear
17:06 <Tigger_> that would only be faking it
17:38 <Warren1984> they will resist putting energy into things which don't make sense to them, or for which they can't see a practical application.
17:56 <Warren1984> The ISTJ has little use for theory or abstract thinking, unless the practical application is clear
22:00 <Tigger_> my goal is 10,000 HD films, what practical and concrete strategies can I use to achieve this goal?
23:08 <Tigger_> my goal is 10,000 HD films, what practical and concrete strategies can I use to achieve this goal?
25:00 <Warren1984> you need a SMART goal
25:45 <Warren1984> you need a SMART goal
26:00 <Warren1984> http://topachievement.com/smart.html
26:00 <progressive> [ Creating S.M.A.R.T. Goals — Top Achievement ] - topachievement.com
26:00 <Tigger_> Specific
26:00 <Tigger_> Measurable
26:00 <Tigger_> Attainable
26:00 <Tigger_> Realistic
26:00 <Tigger_> Timely
26:00 <Tigger_> well it is specific, I want 10,000 HD films
26:34 <Warren1984> http://topachievement.com/smart.html
26:36 <progressive> [ Creating S.M.A.R.T. Goals — Top Achievement ] - topachievement.com
26:54 <Tigger_> Specific
26:54 <Tigger_> Measurable
26:54 <Tigger_> Attainable
26:54 <Tigger_> Realistic
26:54 <Tigger_> Timely
27:00 <Tigger_> and it's certainly measurable, as I've put the exact number, 10,000
27:00 <Tigger_> and it's Attainable, as I am already more than halfway there
27:00 <Tigger_> realistic, again I'm already halfway there
27:00 <Tigger_> Timely, it could take a few years
27:06 <Tigger_> well it is specific, I want 10,000 HD films
27:21 <Tigger_> and it's certainly measurable, as I've put the exact number, 10,000
27:38 <Tigger_> and it's Attainable, as I am already more than halfway there
27:54 <Tigger_> realistic, again I'm already halfway there
28:00 <Warren1984> with timely you must set a deadline
28:00 <Warren1984> I usually don't use smart goals because you can just use a procedure to achieve a goal
28:04 <Tigger_> Timely, it could take a few years
28:21 <Warren1984> with timely you must set a deadline
28:52 <Warren1984> I usually don't use smart goals because you can just use a procedure to achieve a goal
29:00 <Warren1984> you could set lots of financial goals
29:00 <Warren1984> financial goals are not necessarily selfish
29:24 <Warren1984> you could set lots of financial goals
30:00 <Warren1984> because you could set up a financial goal to help childrens cancer for example
30:00 <Tigger_> what if they crack down on piracy before I hit 10,000?  the goal will no longer be attainable
30:00 <Warren1984> but if every goal is set to benefit you that is selfish
30:05 <Warren1984> financial goals are not necessarily selfish
30:24 <Warren1984> because you could set up a financial goal to help childrens cancer for example
30:41 <Tigger_> what if they crack down on piracy before I hit 10,000? the goal will no longer be attainable
30:43 <Warren1984> but if every goal is set to benefit you that is selfish
31:00 <Warren1984> well yes, because nothing happens in a straight line in life
31:00 <Warren1984> but then you could get a part time job and work towards purchasing the legit ones
31:00 <Warren1984> I am sure you can do flyer delivery
31:11 <Warren1984> well yes, because nothing happens in a straight line in life
31:47 <Warren1984> but then you could get a part time job and work towards purchasing the legit ones
32:00 <Tigger_> but I don't want legit ones, only pirated copies
32:00 <Warren1984> well then you are being selfish
32:00 <Tigger_> why?
32:01 <Warren1984> I am sure you can do flyer delivery
32:15 <Tigger_> but I don't want legit ones, only pirated copies
32:27 <Warren1984> well then you are being selfish
32:37 <Tigger_> why?
33:00 <Warren1984> because you are refusing to work towards your goals
33:49 <Warren1984> because you are refusing to work towards your goals
34:00 <Tigger_> I could go to a lan party and pirate them directly from people rather than over the internet
34:00 <Warren1984> yeah but what if they bring in a new law
34:51 <Tigger_> I could go to a lan party and pirate them directly from people rather than over the internet
35:00 <Warren1984> so you like get $1000 fine for each pirated copy
35:00 <Warren1984> like child porn is illeagel
35:00 <Warren1984> they have harsh penalties for that
35:00 <Warren1984> and they could put those penalties in place for illeagel pirated movies
35:09 <Warren1984> yeah but what if they bring in a new law
35:22 <Warren1984> so you like get $1000 fine for each pirated copy
35:31 <Warren1984> like child porn is illeagel
35:45 <Warren1984> they have harsh penalties for that
36:00 <Tigger_> I will just not get caught
36:00 <Warren1984> the microsoft inbox repair is looking for lost items
36:00 <Warren1984> that is what people with child porn usually thing
36:00 <Warren1984> think
36:00 <Warren1984> hopefully it fully repairs and everything goes back to normal
36:08 <Warren1984> and they could put those penalties in place for illeagel pirated movies
36:28 <Tigger_> I will just not get caught
36:31 <Warren1984> the microsoft inbox repair is looking for lost items
36:47 <Warren1984> that is what people with child porn usually thing
36:49 <Warren1984> think
37:00 <Tigger_> they have not caught me after 5,511 HD films
37:08 <Warren1984> hopefully it fully repairs and everything goes back to normal
37:29 <Tigger_> they have not caught me after 5,511 HD films
38:00 <Warren1984> what financial goals do you have?
38:00 <Tigger_> to have more money
38:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should I work fulltime in a warehouse/store room
38:00 <Warren1984> driving a forklift
38:00 <Tigger_> if that's what you'd enjoy
38:15 <Warren1984> what financial goals do you have?
38:22 <Tigger_> to have more money
38:37 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should I work fulltime in a warehouse/store room
38:42 <Warren1984> driving a forklift
38:49 <Tigger_> if that's what you'd enjoy
41:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ get a picture of a muffin
41:00 <Warren1984> use a methodical approach via an SOP
41:00 <Warren1984> How will I know when it is accomplished? when it looks exactly like the muffin on the picture
41:18 <Warren1984> Tigger_ get a picture of a muffin
41:32 <Warren1984> use a methodical approach via an SOP
41:54 <Warren1984> How will I know when it is accomplished? when it looks exactly like the muffin on the picture
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52:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what about the future
52:00 <Warren1984> always think of the future
52:00 <Tigger_> well 10,000 HD films is a good future
52:28 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what about the future
52:36 <Warren1984> always think of the future
52:56 <Tigger_> well 10,000 HD films is a good future
58:00 <Warren1984> my goals are much broader
59:01 <Warren1984> my goals are much broader
02:00 <Abortion> Tigger_: Seedbox is a good start
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02:56 <Abortion> Tigger_: Seedbox is a good start
03:00 <Tigger_> what is seedbox?
03:00 <Abortion> Basically, a server in a foreign country which has good bandwidth
03:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you save money instead of spending it, won't your financial goals not be specific enough
03:00 <Abortion> The one I was on was basically a shell account, rather than a full VPS
03:11 <Tigger_> what is seedbox?
03:49 <Abortion> Basically, a server in a foreign country which has good bandwidth
04:00 <Abortion> thats for the downloading side
04:00 <Abortion> for the storage side, you face different challenges
04:00 <Abortion> your seed box might be 15USD a month, but your hard drives are gonna be expensive
04:00 <Tigger_> so you torrent to the foreign server, then directly download from that?
04:00 <Abortion> have you calculated how much storage you will need?
04:00 <Abortion> yep
04:00 <Warren1984> why can't you say I am saving money for a specific shirt for the summer
04:00 <Tigger_> interesting, though I don't use torrents much
04:04 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you save money instead of spending it, won't your financial goals not be specific enough
04:05 <Abortion> The one I was on was basically a shell account, rather than a full VPS
04:15 <Abortion> thats for the downloading side
04:29 <Abortion> for the storage side, you face different challenges
04:38 <Abortion> your seed box might be 15USD a month, but your hard drives are gonna be expensive
04:46 <Tigger_> so you torrent to the foreign server, then directly download from that?
04:47 <Abortion> have you calculated how much storage you will need?
04:50 <Abortion> yep
04:54 <Warren1984> why can't you say I am saving money for a specific shirt for the summer
05:00 <Tigger_> well the average HD film size is 8Gb, so the storage necessary will be 8Gb x 10,000
05:00 <Abortion> though I wouldn't be suprised if seedboxes get flagged by the new metadata retention system as piracy enabling sites
05:00 <Abortion> 80TB
05:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ one of my goal at the moment is to replace all my socks
05:01 <Tigger_> interesting, though I don't use torrents much
05:37 <Tigger_> well the average HD film size is 8Gb, so the storage necessary will be 8Gb x 10,000
05:39 <Abortion> though I wouldn't be suprised if seedboxes get flagged by the new metadata retention system as piracy enabling sites
05:52 <Abortion> 80TB
06:00 <Warren1984> but it wasn't something I planned for
06:00 <Abortion> even with seagate 8TB archive drives, which you will need 11 or 12 of, those are still 330AUD last time I checked each
06:00 <Abortion> thats a lot of bloody money
06:00 <Tigger_> yes, but that's fine
06:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you financially plan for things?
06:02 <Warren1984> Tigger_ one of my goal at the moment is to replace all my socks
06:23 <Warren1984> but it wasn't something I planned for
06:35 <Abortion> even with seagate 8TB archive drives, which you will need 11 or 12 of, those are still 330AUD last time I checked each
06:41 <Abortion> thats a lot of bloody money
06:46 <Tigger_> yes, but that's fine
07:00 <Abortion> Do you even intend to watch all that?
07:00 <Abortion> thats, say 20,000 hours of stuff
07:00 <Tigger_> I have been downloading HD films since 2007, so I have about 60-70 drives starting at 320Gb, full of HD films, now using my first 5Tb drive
07:00 <Abortion> ah.
07:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you financially plan for things?
07:05 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you financially plan for things?
07:28 <Abortion> Do you even intend to watch all that?
07:39 <Abortion> thats, say 20,000 hours of stuff
07:57 <Tigger_> I have been downloading HD films since 2007, so I have about 60-70 drives starting at 320Gb, full of HD films, now using my first 5Tb drive
08:00 <Tigger_> well I like to have a selection of things to watch, depending on my mood
08:00 <Abortion> Well IIRC you have them on an assortment of drives
08:00 <Abortion> have you been doing a manual index of where they all are?
08:00 <Tigger_> eventually I intend to consolidate them all onto a single NAS box, perhaps about 12 bays
08:06 <Abortion> ah.
08:08 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you financially plan for things?
08:17 <Tigger_> well I like to have a selection of things to watch, depending on my mood
08:32 <Abortion> Well IIRC you have them on an assortment of drives
08:43 <Abortion> have you been doing a manual index of where they all are?
09:00 <Tigger_> no, there's no index at all
09:00 <Abortion> whats your redundancy plan?
09:00 <Tigger_> the drives that I download them too now will be retained as the backups
09:00 <Abortion> for drive failure, presumably backup is out of the question as that requires double the storage
09:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you financially plan for things?
09:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I do
09:01 <Tigger_> eventually I intend to consolidate them all onto a single NAS box, perhaps about 12 bays
09:16 <Tigger_> no, there's no index at all
09:18 <Abortion> whats your redundancy plan?
09:42 <Tigger_> the drives that I download them too now will be retained as the backups
09:44 <Abortion> for drive failure, presumably backup is out of the question as that requires double the storage
09:46 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you financially plan for things?
09:55 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I do
10:00 <Abortion> Personally I have somewhat given up on downloading the earth
10:00 <Abortion> I regret my array
10:00 <Abortion> for important stuff backups trump redundancy every time
10:00 <Tigger_> though eventually the 8Tb archive drives could become 12 Tb, 16 Tb, and only cost $200 or something, so that's another backup solution
10:00 <Abortion> redundancy is for High Availability
10:00 <Abortion> might be a couple of years away
10:00 <Abortion> maybe even HAMR
10:00 <Tigger_> yes, but I'm patient
10:19 <Abortion> Personally I have somewhat given up on downloading the earth
10:23 <Abortion> I regret my array
10:34 <Abortion> for important stuff backups trump redundancy every time
10:45 <Tigger_> though eventually the 8Tb archive drives could become 12 Tb, 16 Tb, and only cost $200 or something, so that's another backup solution
10:47 <Abortion> redundancy is for High Availability
10:57 <Abortion> might be a couple of years away
11:00 <Abortion> You know the provisos of SMR (eg seagate archive drives?
11:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you layout your financial plans?
11:00 <Tigger_> no
11:00 <Abortion> SMR drives are not suited to random access
11:00 <Tigger_> oh yes, I was aware of that
11:00 <Abortion> due to the way their writes overlap
11:00 <Abortion> their throughput is inconsistent
11:02 <Abortion> maybe even HAMR
11:04 <Tigger_> yes, but I'm patient
11:24 <Abortion> You know the provisos of SMR (eg seagate archive drives?
11:31 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you layout your financial plans?
11:32 <Tigger_> no
11:43 <Abortion> SMR drives are not suited to random access
11:51 <Tigger_> oh yes, I was aware of that
11:53 <Abortion> due to the way their writes overlap
12:00 <Abortion> their throughput is inconsistent
12:00 <Tigger_> but they probably could be used for film playback, as they don't have to be terribly fast at fetching the data for smooth playback
12:00 <Abortion> true
12:58 <Tigger_> but they probably could be used for film playback, as they don't have to be terribly fast at fetching the data for smooth playback
13:00 <Abortion> with so much ram available, a lot can be prebuffered
13:00 <Abortion> if software is smart enough to do it
13:06 <Abortion> true
13:41 <Abortion> with so much ram available, a lot can be prebuffered
13:42 <Abortion> if software is smart enough to do it
14:00 <Abortion> It is incredible, but we've reached a point where content hasn't kept up with available resoures (programs on the other hand have continued to be resource hogs)
14:00 <Tigger_> but I'm thinking years in advance, the capacities will increase, and price per Tb will fall, until my ideal solution becomes trivial to implement
14:38 <Abortion> It is incredible, but we've reached a point where content hasn't kept up with available resoures (programs on the other hand have continued to be resource hogs)
15:00 <Abortion> Are you aware of the slowdown in transistor shrinkage?
15:00 <Tigger_> yes, Moores Law is no longer every 18 months
15:00 <Abortion> I think magnetic mechanical hard drives still have a good plan though
15:02 <Tigger_> but I'm thinking years in advance, the capacities will increase, and price per Tb will fall, until my ideal solution becomes trivial to implement
15:21 <Abortion> Are you aware of the slowdown in transistor shrinkage?
15:39 <Tigger_> yes, Moores Law is no longer every 18 months
15:50 <Abortion> I think magnetic mechanical hard drives still have a good plan though
16:00 <Abortion> so that won't slow down for a little while yet imo
16:58 <Abortion> so that won't slow down for a little while yet imo
17:00 <Abortion> ultimately that too is inevitable though
17:37 <Abortion> ultimately that too is inevitable though
18:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you layout your financial plans?
18:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
18:00 <Tigger_> yes, but even if HDD tops out at 20Tb, that's an awful lot of films on a single drive
18:00 <Abortion> So do you have any plans for 4K? Or even 8K?
18:16 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you layout your financial plans?
18:24 <Warren1984> hey doctor
18:31 <Tigger_> yes, but even if HDD tops out at 20Tb, that's an awful lot of films on a single drive
19:00 <Abortion> (the consumer variants anyway)
19:07 <Abortion> So do you have any plans for 4K? Or even 8K?
19:13 <Abortion> (the consumer variants anyway)
20:00 <Tigger_> not really, 4k is fairly meaningless to me, and even so 4k rips will be encoded using h265 which is even more efficient, so file sizes still won't go much above 8Gb on average
20:00 <Abortion> maybe
20:00 <Abortion> but yeah, High detail is fine for still images, but throw in motion, and detail takes a back seat
20:15 <Tigger_> not really, 4k is fairly meaningless to me, and even so 4k rips will be encoded using h265 which is even more efficient, so file sizes still won't go much above 8Gb on average
20:44 <Abortion> maybe
20:59 <Abortion> but yeah, High detail is fine for still images, but throw in motion, and detail takes a back seat
21:00 <Tigger_> I'll get a few 4k films just to see what they're like, but as my goal is 10,000 films, the vast majority are much older films that are really sub 1080p or 720p in perceptual terms, I even watch silent films 100+ years old
21:51 <Tigger_> I'll get a few 4k films just to see what they're like, but as my goal is 10,000 films, the vast majority are much older films that are really sub 1080p or 720p in perceptual terms, I even watch silent films 100+ years old
23:00 <Abortion> Well good luck to you
23:00 <Tigger_> but I actually don't have high expectations of 4k taking off, the law of diminishing returns sets in pretty quickly after 1080p
23:39 <Abortion> Well good luck to you
23:56 <Tigger_> but I actually don't have high expectations of 4k taking off, the law of diminishing returns sets in pretty quickly after 1080p
24:00 <Abortion> Warren1984: I know it seems imprudent, what Tigger_ is doing, but remember. When a person has a hobby, reason goes out of the window. It is a conduit to enjoyment and fulfilment, hopefully. Don't be too quick to judge a persons apparently irrational interests.
24:00 <Tigger_> most people can't even tell the difference between DVD and bluray, which is why the DVD market is still bigger, after 8 years or so of bluray
24:14 <Abortion> Warren1984: I know it seems imprudent, what Tigger_ is doing, but remember. When a person has a hobby, reason goes out of the window. It is a conduit to enjoyment and fulfilment, hopefully. Don't be too quick to judge a persons apparently irrational interests.
24:42 <Tigger_> most people can't even tell the difference between DVD and bluray, which is why the DVD market is still bigger, after 8 years or so of bluray
27:00 <Abortion> I can, but usually when I am engaged in the story, there are few times where I really care.
27:50 <Abortion> I can, but usually when I am engaged in the story, there are few times where I really care.
28:00 <Abortion> Once again, motion is more of a problem than resolution, which isn't all that well done by DVD either
28:00 <Abortion> Any time you see a waterfall, know what I mean
28:00 <Tigger_> the only way to correct that is to increase the framerate, but that has other costs too, the film becomes less cinematic
28:00 <Abortion> hah, I read something interesting about that
28:10 <Abortion> Once again, motion is more of a problem than resolution, which isn't all that well done by DVD either
28:38 <Abortion> Any time you see a waterfall, know what I mean
28:53 <Tigger_> the only way to correct that is to increase the framerate, but that has other costs too, the film becomes less cinematic
29:00 <doctor> hey all
29:00 <Abortion> apparently it is cultural perception
29:00 <Tigger_> hi doctor 
29:00 <Abortion> Because films were mastered at 24fps, yet home camcorders were getting increasingly smooth framerates. So we associate higher framerates with non-cinematic. Quite amusing really
29:08 <Abortion> hah, I read something interesting about that
29:14 <doctor> hey all
29:18 <Abortion> apparently it is cultural perception
29:18 <Tigger_> hi doctor
30:00 <Tigger_> it's the same with increased resolution, the art of the cinematographer is actually to lose detail from the image, to bring your attention to particular elements within the frame
30:03 <Abortion> Because films were mastered at 24fps, yet home camcorders were getting increasingly smooth framerates. So we associate higher framerates with non-cinematic. Quite amusing really
30:16 <Tigger_> it's the same with increased resolution, the art of the cinematographer is actually to lose detail from the image, to bring your attention to particular elements within the frame
31:00 <Tigger_> too much detail, too high frame rate, and the mind becomes overwhelmed and distracted
31:00 <Abortion> I do wonder if that will change in a couple of generations time
31:20 <Tigger_> too much detail, too high frame rate, and the mind becomes overwhelmed and distracted
31:21 <Abortion> I do wonder if that will change in a couple of generations time
32:00 <Tigger_> I don't have any high expectations, such they've been reintroducing 3D every 20 years ever since the 1920s, and it has never taken off
32:44 <Tigger_> I don't have any high expectations, such they've been reintroducing 3D every 20 years ever since the 1920s, and it has never taken off
33:00 <Tigger_> colour and widescreen were the only two innovations that stuck
33:00 <Tigger_> and even colour took 30 years to displace black and white
33:20 <Tigger_> colour and widescreen were the only two innovations that stuck
33:56 <Tigger_> and even colour took 30 years to displace black and white
36:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ make a list of routine tasks that need to be completed on a computer each day, week, month and year
37:00 <Tigger_> back up Outlook each day
37:00 <Warren1984> what are routine things computer technicians do?
37:06 <Warren1984> Tigger_ make a list of routine tasks that need to be completed on a computer each day, week, month and year
37:22 <Tigger_> back up Outlook each day
37:48 <Warren1984> what are routine things computer technicians do?
41:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ when it comes to managing money their are 2 things 1. survival and 2. your own interests and values
41:00 <Tigger_> I don't know, maybe do backups
41:00 <Warren1984> malwarebytes is no longer free
41:14 <Warren1984> Tigger_ when it comes to managing money their are 2 things 1. survival and 2. your own interests and values
41:14 <Tigger_> I don't know, maybe do backups
41:34 <Warren1984> malwarebytes is no longer free
54:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ clarify your values and how much money you will need to live the life you desire
54:21 <Warren1984> Tigger_ clarify your values and how much money you will need to live the life you desire
55:00 <Tigger_> well I want as much money as possible, and as many HD films as possible
55:11 <Tigger_> well I want as much money as possible, and as many HD films as possible
56:00 <Warren1984> so your mission in life is to be a slave to money?
56:26 <Warren1984> so your mission in life is to be a slave to money?
59:00 <Tigger_> no, the money is slave to me
59:22 <Tigger_> no, the money is slave to me
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> im starting to become more of a scottish jewish chinaman as im getting older
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> i want another house
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> my brother has wrecked this one
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> too many sheds, too much clutter
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> i dont care about a backyard
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> i want a large house with lots of rooms
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> like how you have a room for cables, i want a rom just for rubberbands
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> room*
17:13 <happy-lil-camper> im starting to become more of a scottish jewish chinaman as im getting older
17:19 <happy-lil-camper> i want another house
17:25 <happy-lil-camper> my brother has wrecked this one
17:30 <happy-lil-camper> too many sheds, too much clutter
17:42 <happy-lil-camper> i dont care about a backyard
17:50 <happy-lil-camper> i want a large house with lots of rooms
18:00 <happy-lil-camper> girls are lucky... if they are pretty all they need to do is batter their eye lids at a rich man
18:00 <happy-lil-camper> someone find me a rich woman for me to mooch off
18:01 <happy-lil-camper> like how you have a room for cables, i want a rom just for rubberbands
18:06 <happy-lil-camper> room*
18:36 <happy-lil-camper> girls are lucky... if they are pretty all they need to do is batter their eye lids at a rich man
18:56 <happy-lil-camper> someone find me a rich woman for me to mooch off
20:00 <happy-lil-camper> im not even sure if on SiX FiGuRes, like lish is on, is enough alone to buy an average house anymore
20:00 <Tigger_> it's probably not
20:00 <happy-lil-camper> my hunch is her salary + at least an average salary
20:40 <happy-lil-camper> im not even sure if on SiX FiGuRes, like lish is on, is enough alone to buy an average house anymore
20:58 <Tigger_> it's probably not
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> my hunch is her salary + at least an average salary
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> back when i graduated i was only on 50k and got a 250k loan
21:00 <Tigger_> two above average salaries to buy a not so great house
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder what 50k gets you now
21:00 <Tigger_> maybe nothing
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> in terms of what the bank will let you have
21:35 <happy-lil-camper> back when i graduated i was only on 50k and got a 250k loan
21:43 <Tigger_> two above average salaries to buy a not so great house
21:45 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder what 50k gets you now
21:57 <Tigger_> maybe nothing
21:57 <happy-lil-camper> in terms of what the bank will let you have
22:00 <Tigger_> get a few skips around to throw out your brother's rubbish
22:00 <happy-lil-camper> lolllll he will arc up
22:00 <happy-lil-camper> i will have to sedate him when he sleeps
22:00 <happy-lil-camper> and have everyone stick to a story that they were never there
22:00 <happy-lil-camper> like make him mad
22:00 <happy-lil-camper> like insane mad
22:00 <happy-lil-camper> what are you talking about?
22:00 <Tigger_> lol
22:27 <Tigger_> get a few skips around to throw out your brother's rubbish
22:37 <happy-lil-camper> lolllll he will arc up
22:42 <happy-lil-camper> i will have to sedate him when he sleeps
22:53 <happy-lil-camper> and have everyone stick to a story that they were never there
22:56 <happy-lil-camper> like make him mad
22:58 <happy-lil-camper> like insane mad
23:00 <Tigger_> I suspect that he couldn't even give away the rubbish on gumtree?
23:00 <happy-lil-camper> probably for close to nothing
23:05 <happy-lil-camper> what are you talking about?
23:09 <Tigger_> lol
23:36 <Tigger_> I suspect that he couldn't even give away the rubbish on gumtree?
23:51 <happy-lil-camper> probably for close to nothing
24:00 <happy-lil-camper> it ranged from warped metal shelves from the PO, boxes full of rubber bands, papers, stickers
24:00 <happy-lil-camper> i found out another relative (in law) did hte same when she sold her PO
24:00 <happy-lil-camper> she tried to keep as much as possible in the shed
24:00 <Tigger_> rubber bands become brittle after a few years and just break apart
24:00 <happy-lil-camper> my mother calls it "an asian thing"
24:00 <happy-lil-camper> she was telling me yesterday that when she first came to australia she couldnt throw away any plastic bottles because they lkooked so pretty
24:11 <happy-lil-camper> it ranged from warped metal shelves from the PO, boxes full of rubber bands, papers, stickers
24:28 <happy-lil-camper> i found out another relative (in law) did hte same when she sold her PO
24:34 <happy-lil-camper> she tried to keep as much as possible in the shed
24:36 <Tigger_> rubber bands become brittle after a few years and just break apart
24:40 <happy-lil-camper> my mother calls it "an asian thing"
25:00 <Tigger_> actually I have heard of that with asian restaurants, after they close up, they keep all the kitchen equipment in the back yard, or even the front yard
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> loll front yard
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> she had so many that cockroaches came, so eventually she gave up and threw them
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> it does some that kiasu(sp?) seems to be an intrinsic part of Asian mentality
25:00 <Tigger_> though there is a decent market for used kitchen equipment, so they could sell it
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> it may transcend cultgure
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> culture*
25:09 <happy-lil-camper> she was telling me yesterday that when she first came to australia she couldnt throw away any plastic bottles because they lkooked so pretty
25:12 <Tigger_> actually I have heard of that with asian restaurants, after they close up, they keep all the kitchen equipment in the back yard, or even the front yard
25:21 <happy-lil-camper> loll front yard
25:37 <happy-lil-camper> she had so many that cockroaches came, so eventually she gave up and threw them
25:56 <happy-lil-camper> it does some that kiasu(sp?) seems to be an intrinsic part of Asian mentality
25:57 <Tigger_> though there is a decent market for used kitchen equipment, so they could sell it
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> it may transcend cultgure
26:00 <Tigger_> culture and genetics have no clear dividing line
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> it is odd that Africans dont have this, considering they have population and development issues too
26:00 <Tigger_> have what exactly?
26:08 <happy-lil-camper> culture*
26:34 <Tigger_> culture and genetics have no clear dividing line
26:46 <happy-lil-camper> it is odd that Africans dont have this, considering they have population and development issues too
26:56 <Tigger_> have what exactly?
27:00 <happy-lil-camper> that attitude of trying to be secure for the future, perhap[s this is part of their lack of foreseight... like shown in irresponsibility and planning
27:00 <happy-lil-camper> (lack of) planning
27:00 <Tigger_> I once read that the african-american mangled grammar of ebonics is actually quite close to the grammatical structures of their languages back in africa, though they have no knowledge of them
27:00 <happy-lil-camper> they really do seem to live for the moment
27:31 <happy-lil-camper> that attitude of trying to be secure for the future, perhap[s this is part of their lack of foreseight... like shown in irresponsibility and planning
27:53 <happy-lil-camper> (lack of) planning
27:58 <Tigger_> I once read that the african-american mangled grammar of ebonics is actually quite close to the grammatical structures of their languages back in africa, though they have no knowledge of them
27:59 <happy-lil-camper> they really do seem to live for the moment
28:00 <Tigger_> yes
28:11 <Tigger_> yes
29:00 <Tigger_> that's because Africa is such a dangerous place in terms of pathogens and animals that it's very hard to plan for the future, no matter how smart you are you could be killed anyway, so best just to breed constantly
29:11 <Tigger_> that's because Africa is such a dangerous place in terms of pathogens and animals that it's very hard to plan for the future, no matter how smart you are you could be killed anyway, so best just to breed constantly
30:00 <happy-lil-camper> oh right that k vs something breeding strategy
30:00 <Tigger_> r/K
30:17 <happy-lil-camper> oh right that k vs something breeding strategy
30:45 <Tigger_> r/K
31:00 <happy-lil-camper> this is why i refuse to believe we came from Africa, because people can only get dumber with generations, not smarter
31:00 <Tigger_> Kiasu or Kiasu-ism means to take extreme measures to achieve success, whereas Kiasi or Kiasi-ism means to take extreme measures to avoid risk.
31:00 <Tigger_> So, put together the term kiasu could be well translated for those outside culture as "avoiding competition due to the fear of losing out (yet still thinks that one is best/or better than the other party). This is a rather complex explanation for those who are outside of this culture to fully grasp its meaning.
31:00 <Tigger_> it is hard to understand
31:26 <happy-lil-camper> this is why i refuse to believe we came from Africa, because people can only get dumber with generations, not smarter
31:56 <Tigger_> Kiasu or Kiasu-ism means to take extreme measures to achieve success, whereas Kiasi or Kiasi-ism means to take extreme measures to avoid risk.
31:56 <Tigger_> So, put together the term kiasu could be well translated for those outside culture as "avoiding competition due to the fear of losing out (yet still thinks that one is best/or better than the other party). This is a rather complex explanation for those who are outside of this culture to fully grasp its meaning.
32:03 <Tigger_> it is hard to understand
33:00 <happy-lil-camper> do you find the way of the Asian and the chaos of the African to be equally incomprehensible to you? or you can slightly relate to Asians more -- or are they too crazy but just in a different way
33:00 <happy-lil-camper> im actually at work btw
33:00 <happy-lil-camper> and the boss is here playing DOTA II
33:24 <happy-lil-camper> do you find the way of the Asian and the chaos of the African to be equally incomprehensible to you? or you can slightly relate to Asians more -- or are they too crazy but just in a different way
33:54 <happy-lil-camper> im actually at work btw
34:00 <Tigger_> I suppose they're both hard to understand, but in very different ways
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> im Asian and i still dont understand most of it
34:03 <happy-lil-camper> and the boss is here playing DOTA II
34:31 <Tigger_> I suppose they're both hard to understand, but in very different ways
34:59 <happy-lil-camper> im Asian and i still dont understand most of it
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> but it has more to do with me being unable to understand most people because of my lack of socialisation and slightly spergyness
35:00 <Tigger_> after reading Poorly Made in China, my impression was that this is completely insane, yet at the same time they should know better, whereas you don't expect the african to know better
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> i have to intellectualise things to cope
35:24 <happy-lil-camper> but it has more to do with me being unable to understand most people because of my lack of socialisation and slightly spergyness
35:28 <Tigger_> after reading Poorly Made in China, my impression was that this is completely insane, yet at the same time they should know better, whereas you don't expect the african to know better
35:31 <happy-lil-camper> i have to intellectualise things to cope
36:00 <Tigger_> the 'face saving' thing he kept encountering, where people would outright deny reality, is something that's hard to understand
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> the guy we get our units from in China only has the company because he inherited it from his dad, who was high up in the communist party
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> he doesnt even give a rats arse about the company, he just wants to play around
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> he couldnt care less if the company ran aground
36:00 <Tigger_> it's probably an annoyance to him
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> and his workers dont do a good job properly
36:21 <Tigger_> the 'face saving' thing he kept encountering, where people would outright deny reality, is something that's hard to understand
36:23 <happy-lil-camper> the guy we get our units from in China only has the company because he inherited it from his dad, who was high up in the communist party
36:33 <happy-lil-camper> he doesnt even give a rats arse about the company, he just wants to play around
36:40 <happy-lil-camper> he couldnt care less if the company ran aground
36:55 <Tigger_> it's probably an annoyance to him
36:59 <happy-lil-camper> and his workers dont do a good job properly
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> a co-worker told me that the Chinese will try to get away with ANYTHING to screw you over but if you threaten to leave they will bend over backwards and behave subserviently
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> it's just funny
37:51 <happy-lil-camper> a co-worker told me that the Chinese will try to get away with ANYTHING to screw you over but if you threaten to leave they will bend over backwards and behave subserviently
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> so basically a plant needs to be managed by a white guy
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> but the lower level things carried out by Chinamen for the sake of $$$
38:02 <happy-lil-camper> it's just funny
38:42 <happy-lil-camper> so basically a plant needs to be managed by a white guy
38:57 <happy-lil-camper> but the lower level things carried out by Chinamen for the sake of $$$
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> but who would want to live in China, especially in heavily polluted areas
39:00 <Tigger_> one thing that does stand out is that thinking too literally leads to bizarre conceptions, whereas thinking abstractly about something does tend to produce a more realistic model of reality
39:17 <happy-lil-camper> but who would want to live in China, especially in heavily polluted areas
39:41 <Tigger_> one thing that does stand out is that thinking too literally leads to bizarre conceptions, whereas thinking abstractly about something does tend to produce a more realistic model of reality
40:00 <happy-lil-camper> a few programming jokes are based on that kinda, but i cant remember the jokes now
40:28 <happy-lil-camper> a few programming jokes are based on that kinda, but i cant remember the jokes now
43:00 <Tigger_> such as the manias that tend to take hold in Asia I think are due to being overly literal, even though they're crazy.  the craziness does not emerge from being crazy, but a lack of being crazy (abstract thought)
43:00 <Ozone> overly literal in what ways?
43:34 <Tigger_> such as the manias that tend to take hold in Asia I think are due to being overly literal, even though they're crazy. the craziness does not emerge from being crazy, but a lack of being crazy (abstract thought)
44:00 <Tigger_> such as Chairman Mao's dictate that China must produce steel, to become a major steel producer to stand alongside other leading steel producing countries
44:05 <Ozone> overly literal in what ways?
45:00 <Tigger_> so perfectly good steel utensils, equipment, etc. were melted down to produce steel
45:00 <happy-lil-camper> the cartoon Talespin by Disney was a good satire on communism
45:00 <Tigger_> when they are end products of steel, steel is just a transitional product to create the end product
45:07 <Tigger_> such as Chairman Mao's dictate that China must produce steel, to become a major steel producer to stand alongside other leading steel producing countries
45:31 <Tigger_> so perfectly good steel utensils, equipment, etc. were melted down to produce steel
45:53 <happy-lil-camper> the cartoon Talespin by Disney was a good satire on communism
45:55 <Tigger_> when they are end products of steel, steel is just a transitional product to create the end product
46:00 <Ozone> heh'
46:00 <Tigger_> yet the mania swept through China that steel was the final goal
46:00 <happy-lil-camper> yeah, in the cartoon the socialists bought products from the west for $1 and then changed the price to 50c and resold it back to the west 
46:00 <Tigger_> lol
46:25 <Ozone> heh'
46:35 <Tigger_> yet the mania swept through China that steel was the final goal
46:53 <happy-lil-camper> yeah, in the cartoon the socialists bought products from the west for $1 and then changed the price to 50c and resold it back to the west
47:00 <Ozone> lol
47:00 <happy-lil-camper> ill have to download it to watch it all again. it was full of great stuff like that
47:00 <happy-lil-camper> it had one episode that was banned though but i forget why
47:00 <happy-lil-camper> it made it to TV once, but aftger that never again
47:02 <Tigger_> lol
47:27 <Ozone> lol
47:45 <happy-lil-camper> ill have to download it to watch it all again. it was full of great stuff like that
47:55 <happy-lil-camper> it had one episode that was banned though but i forget why
48:00 <Tigger_> so basically Mao was just looking at steel in a very literal way, rather than holding an abstract concept about the utility of steel to produce value added goods, which in turn produce more value added goods
48:10 <happy-lil-camper> it made it to TV once, but aftger that never again
48:45 <Tigger_> so basically Mao was just looking at steel in a very literal way, rather than holding an abstract concept about the utility of steel to produce value added goods, which in turn produce more value added goods
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> Baloo finds the legendary "Panda-La" (a reference to Shangri-La), a mystical place, where he is warmly received. The reception, however, turns out to be a ruse, as Panda-La's inhabitants decide to attack Cape Suzette.
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> Title reference: "Lost Horizons"
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> Animation: Sun Woo
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> Note: This episode was banned for its depiction of war and its unflattering stereotypes of East Asians
50:00 <Tigger_> it's something I don't think could ever happen in the west, not even the very stupidest westerner would think about things this way, so rather than it being an IQ thing, it's more about the type of thinking
50:40 <happy-lil-camper> Baloo finds the legendary "Panda-La" (a reference to Shangri-La), a mystical place, where he is warmly received. The reception, however, turns out to be a ruse, as Panda-La's inhabitants decide to attack Cape Suzette.
50:44 <happy-lil-camper> Title reference: "Lost Horizons"
50:47 <happy-lil-camper> Animation: Sun Woo
50:49 <happy-lil-camper> Note: This episode was banned for its depiction of war and its unflattering stereotypes of East Asians
51:00 <happy-lil-camper> it's odd that given Mongolia's genetic similarity to other East Asians and also its history with China that today it's basically known for making nothing
51:04 <Tigger_> it's something I don't think could ever happen in the west, not even the very stupidest westerner would think about things this way, so rather than it being an IQ thing, it's more about the type of thinking
52:00 <happy-lil-camper> correct me if im wrong but i cant think of anything ive bought that came from Mongolia
52:00 <happy-lil-camper> and its size
52:08 <happy-lil-camper> it's odd that given Mongolia's genetic similarity to other East Asians and also its history with China that today it's basically known for making nothing
52:34 <happy-lil-camper> correct me if im wrong but i cant think of anything ive bought that came from Mongolia
52:57 <happy-lil-camper> and its size
54:00 <Tigger_> Mongolians are pastoralists, probably tent making is the only manufacture they do there
55:05 <Tigger_> Mongolians are pastoralists, probably tent making is the only manufacture they do there
56:00 <Tigger_> they are a curious bunch, such as nazis are popular there
56:00 <Tigger_> and there's an underground homeless city
56:20 <Tigger_> they are a curious bunch, such as nazis are popular there
56:40 <Tigger_> and there's an underground homeless city
59:00 <doctor> Waiting for the right moment China reveals its weaknesses
59:00 <Tigger_> http://www.vice.com/read/going-underground-with-the-drunks-in-ulan-bator-with-mikel-aristregi
59:00 <progressive> [ Going Underground with the Homeless of Ulan Bator | VICE | United States ] - www.vice.com
59:36 <doctor> Waiting for the right moment China reveals its weaknesses
59:50 <Tigger_> http://www.vice.com/read/going-underground-with-the-drunks-in-ulan-bator-with-mikel-aristregi
59:51 <progressive> [ Going Underground with the Homeless of Ulan Bator | VICE | United States ] - www.vice.com
01:00 <doctor> Jamie Oliver reveals himself as a socialist nanny http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/09/20/jamie-oliver-sugar_n_8161872.html?utm_hp_ref=australia
01:00 <progressive> [ Jamie's Sugar Rush 'Misleading' Says Beverage Industry CEO ] - www.huffingtonpost.com.au
01:00 <Tigger_> if Trump imposes tariffs on China then it could all come unravelling, China has huge internal debt based on economic indices staying the same as they were a few years ago
01:16 <doctor> Jamie Oliver reveals himself as a socialist nanny http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/09/20/jamie-oliver-sugar_n_8161872.html?utm_hp_ref=australia
01:16 <progressive> [ Jamie's Sugar Rush 'Misleading' Says Beverage Industry CEO ] - www.huffingtonpost.com.au
01:52 <Tigger_> if Trump imposes tariffs on China then it could all come unravelling, China has huge internal debt based on economic indices staying the same as they were a few years ago
02:00 <doctor> For some reason I just don't feel any threat coming from China, as much as the media hype may say otherwise
02:53 <doctor> For some reason I just don't feel any threat coming from China, as much as the media hype may say otherwise
03:00 <doctor> The biggest threat the west faces is from within
04:00 <happy-lil-camper> some of my friends had to learn Chinese as a kid because everyone thought the Chinese were going to take over
04:06 <doctor> The biggest threat the west faces is from within
04:20 <happy-lil-camper> some of my friends had to learn Chinese as a kid because everyone thought the Chinese were going to take over
05:00 <doctor> still not a bad language to learn if you want to get into business, so may have paid off for them
05:00 <Tigger_> when Chinese people adopt western names to do business, aside from learning English, you know that it's never going to be necessary to learn Chinese (which one?)
05:16 <doctor> still not a bad language to learn if you want to get into business, so may have paid off for them
05:25 <Tigger_> when Chinese people adopt western names to do business, aside from learning English, you know that it's never going to be necessary to learn Chinese (which one?)
06:00 <doctor> hopefully not Kevin Rudd Chinese: the art of sounding Chinese but not making any sense
06:00 <Tigger_> heh
06:00 <Tigger_> whenever he was in China they said for him to speak English, and they'll do the translating
06:00 <doctor> lol
06:25 <doctor> hopefully not Kevin Rudd Chinese: the art of sounding Chinese but not making any sense
06:34 <Tigger_> heh
06:56 <Tigger_> whenever he was in China they said for him to speak English, and they'll do the translating
07:00 <Tigger_> it was Rudd that started that LOTE nonsense in QLD, and it quickly spread all over Australia
07:08 <doctor> lol
07:40 <Tigger_> it was Rudd that started that LOTE nonsense in QLD, and it quickly spread all over Australia
08:00 <Tigger_> so kids were learning truly useless languages like Indonesian
08:00 <Tigger_> “In Australia, only 1.8 per cent of the daily intake of kilojoules comes from soft drinks and the amount of sugar consumed through soft drinks has in fact dropped while obesity continues to rise,” he said.
08:00 <happy-lil-camper> people should learn only English, Latin or Greek and maybe Hebrew
08:00 <Tigger_> I wonder if it's that sugar doesn't have much to do with it, but the quantity of food getting eaten
08:10 <Tigger_> so kids were learning truly useless languages like Indonesian
08:42 <Tigger_> “In Australia, only 1.8 per cent of the daily intake of kilojoules comes from soft drinks and the amount of sugar consumed through soft drinks has in fact dropped while obesity continues to rise,” he said.
09:00 <happy-lil-camper> or the rise of artificial sugar
09:00 <Tigger_> people eat out of boredom, stress, entertainment, etc.
09:01 <happy-lil-camper> people should learn only English, Latin or Greek and maybe Hebrew
09:05 <Tigger_> I wonder if it's that sugar doesn't have much to do with it, but the quantity of food getting eaten
09:37 <happy-lil-camper> or the rise of artificial sugar
09:39 <Tigger_> people eat out of boredom, stress, entertainment, etc.
10:00 <doctor> I don't think you can really 'learn' a new language from a classroom. You may pick up the basics but it would take years of living in an environment that has a different tongue to pick it up
10:00 <happy-lil-camper> what did you learn in school doctor ?
10:00 <Tigger_> in another ten years learning Russian might be seen as highly urgent
10:00 <happy-lil-camper> french?
10:34 <doctor> I don't think you can really 'learn' a new language from a classroom. You may pick up the basics but it would take years of living in an environment that has a different tongue to pick it up
10:56 <happy-lil-camper> what did you learn in school doctor ?
11:00 <Tigger_> French for me
11:00 <happy-lil-camper> french would be great for the ladies
11:00 <doctor> Diet has a role in obesity but it's the environment that is usually obesogenic
11:00 <doctor> Italian I think it was
11:00 <doctor> Don't remember a thing
11:00 <happy-lil-camper> yeah i did Italian
11:02 <Tigger_> in another ten years learning Russian might be seen as highly urgent
11:03 <happy-lil-camper> french?
11:10 <Tigger_> French for me
11:20 <happy-lil-camper> french would be great for the ladies
11:32 <doctor> Diet has a role in obesity but it's the environment that is usually obesogenic
11:48 <doctor> Italian I think it was
11:52 <doctor> Don't remember a thing
11:53 <happy-lil-camper> yeah i did Italian
12:00 <Tigger_> obesogenic environment?
12:14 <Tigger_> obesogenic environment?
13:00 <doctor> Yeah, I had to write a thesis on fat taxes. Obesogenic is the word they use for trying to pinpoint the main role in obesity
13:00 <doctor> Denmark tried it out and it lasted a year before they realised it was a terrible idea
13:14 <doctor> Yeah, I had to write a thesis on fat taxes. Obesogenic is the word they use for trying to pinpoint the main role in obesity
13:57 <doctor> Denmark tried it out and it lasted a year before they realised it was a terrible idea
14:00 <doctor> Nutrition plays more of a role than actual diets themselves
14:00 <Tigger_> but what is it?
14:43 <doctor> Nutrition plays more of a role than actual diets themselves
14:46 <Tigger_> but what is it?
15:00 <doctor> impoverishment and stress are the two main contributors
15:14 <doctor> impoverishment and stress are the two main contributors
16:00 <Tigger_> I can understand if some hot chips are the highlight of the day
16:40 <Tigger_> I can understand if some hot chips are the highlight of the day
19:00 <doctor> it's really just a concern for the individuals to control their diet, but many people have no insight into their own behaviours so some call for the government to intervene
19:00 <doctor> and not surprising it's the poorer, uneducated classes that have no insight
19:26 <doctor> it's really just a concern for the individuals to control their diet, but many people have no insight into their own behaviours so some call for the government to intervene
19:51 <doctor> and not surprising it's the poorer, uneducated classes that have no insight
20:00 <doctor> I'm not talking overweight, that can be caused by simple boredom and is of relatively no concern. I'm meaning the disabling obesity
20:00 <Tigger_> the too fat to walk disability?
20:00 <happy-lil-camper> i saw a woman on the bus so huge --- > 180kg
20:00 <doctor> yeah
20:00 <happy-lil-camper> she couldnt even wear shoes
20:34 <doctor> I'm not talking overweight, that can be caused by simple boredom and is of relatively no concern. I'm meaning the disabling obesity
20:57 <Tigger_> the too fat to walk disability?
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> i saw a woman on the bus so huge --- > 180kg
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> i felt sorry forher
21:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ living with my Mum solves short term problems but creates long term problems
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> but at the same time disgust
21:00 <doctor> Yeah, but there's little you can do for them
21:00 <happy-lil-camper> Warren1984: is Ivan invited to your party?
21:00 <Warren1984> I don't see why not
21:00 <doctor> and it really isn't our concern to force them to change because we don't like it
21:03 <doctor> yeah
21:06 <happy-lil-camper> she couldnt even wear shoes
21:18 <happy-lil-camper> i felt sorry forher
21:26 <Warren1984> Tigger_ living with my Mum solves short term problems but creates long term problems
21:30 <happy-lil-camper> but at the same time disgust
21:48 <doctor> Yeah, but there's little you can do for them
21:48 <happy-lil-camper> Warren1984: is Ivan invited to your party?
22:00 <Tigger_> they become a public expense though
22:00 <Tigger_> hi Lish 
22:00 <doctor> That's more a problem with the law rather than the premises of a free state
22:00 <Lish> Hey tigger
22:00 <Lish> What's happening
22:07 <Warren1984> I don't see why not
22:08 <doctor> and it really isn't our concern to force them to change because we don't like it
22:22 <Tigger_> they become a public expense though
22:44 Join: Lish ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
22:55 <Tigger_> hi Lish
22:57 <doctor> That's more a problem with the law rather than the premises of a free state
22:59 <Lish> Hey tigger
23:00 <Tigger_> well socialism if it's coherent is a social contract, the poor are given things, but they must behave
23:00 <Ozone> Lish
23:00 <Lish> Ozone
23:00 <Lish> What's happening 
23:02 <Lish> What's happening
23:34 <Tigger_> well socialism if it's coherent is a social contract, the poor are given things, but they must behave
23:41 <Ozone> Lish
23:51 <Lish> Ozone
23:54 <Lish> What's happening
24:00 <Ozone> not much
24:00 <doctor> yeah, that's why we have medicare. unfortunately as a result it conflicts with individual autonomy by making everyone responsible for each others health
24:00 <Lish> Nice
24:00 <Lish> I had such a nice weekend :) 
24:15 <Ozone> not much
24:24 <doctor> yeah, that's why we have medicare. unfortunately as a result it conflicts with individual autonomy by making everyone responsible for each others health
24:45 <Lish> Nice
24:50 <Lish> I had such a nice weekend :)
24:54 Join: DaylightSlavingTime ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> ey lish
25:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> but instead we have incoherent socialism + libertarianism: "You must pay for me to indulge every self destructive whim that I have"
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> im at work at this day and hour
25:00 <Lish> That sucks 
25:00 <Lish> I just got back from the market
25:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what was at the market?
25:30 <happy-lil-camper> ey lish
25:32 <DaylightSlavingTime> but instead we have incoherent socialism + libertarianism: "You must pay for me to indulge every self destructive whim that I have"
25:35 <happy-lil-camper> im at work at this day and hour
25:40 <Lish> That sucks
25:45 <Lish> I just got back from the market
25:52 <DaylightSlavingTime> what was at the market?
26:00 <Lish> It's a big market that has heaps of stalls 
26:00 <Lish> My husband got this vapour thing and some liquids for it
26:00 <Lish> I got an ice cream
26:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> xm's brother should open a stall at the market and sell all the junk as art pieces
26:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what's a vapour thing?
26:16 <Lish> It's a big market that has heaps of stalls
26:33 <Lish> My husband got this vapour thing and some liquids for it
26:36 <Lish> I got an ice cream
26:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> xm's brother should open a stall at the market and sell all the junk as art pieces
27:00 <Lish> http://caribbeangardens.com.au/market/
27:00 <progressive> [ Market | Caribbean Gardens ] - caribbeangardens.com.au
27:00 <Lish> http://vapestreet.com.au/product/joyetech-evic-vt-full-kit/
27:00 <Lish> It's like an electronic smoking thing
27:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> what's a vapour thing?
27:16 <Lish> http://caribbeangardens.com.au/market/
27:19 <progressive> [ Market | Caribbean Gardens ] - caribbeangardens.com.au
28:00 <Lish> You smoke flavoured liquids 
28:00 <Lish> He got grape hahaha of course and watermelon 
28:00 <progressive> [ Joyetech eVic VT Full Kit - Vape Street Australia ] - vapestreet.com.au
28:00 <Lish> No nicotine 
28:00 <doctor> My uni has a culture event every thursday where a whole bunch of sideshow shops open up and hock off their junk at exuberant prices to the bored university students
28:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> are you sure he's not black?
28:00 <Lish> It's unconfirmed 
28:01 <Lish> http://vapestreet.com.au/product/joyetech-evic-vt-full-kit/
28:07 <Lish> It's like an electronic smoking thing
28:13 <Lish> You smoke flavoured liquids
28:19 <Lish> He got grape hahaha of course and watermelon
28:20 <progressive> [ Joyetech eVic VT Full Kit - Vape Street Australia ] - vapestreet.com.au
28:25 <Lish> No nicotine
28:26 <doctor> My uni has a culture event every thursday where a whole bunch of sideshow shops open up and hock off their junk at exuberant prices to the bored university students
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28:30 <DaylightSlavingTime> are you sure he's not black?
29:00 <happy-lil-camper> lol TiggerAndroid2 
29:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't understand this vaping thing, but I'm 100% against it
29:00 <Lish> Why
29:09 <Lish> It's unconfirmed
29:22 <happy-lil-camper> lol TiggerAndroid2
29:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't understand this vaping thing, but I'm 100% against it
30:00 <Lish> It's not illegal or bad for you
30:00 <Lish> Or addictive
30:00 <Lish> So why would you be against it
30:00 <doctor> because it's foreign and frightening
30:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> because it's so obviously something for pretentious tossers
30:03 <Lish> Why
30:26 <Lish> It's not illegal or bad for you
30:30 <Lish> Or addictive
30:34 <Lish> So why would you be against it
30:40 <doctor> because it's foreign and frightening
30:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> because it's so obviously something for pretentious tossers
31:00 <Lish> Why for pretentious tosses?
31:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the marijuana people all say it's harmless too
31:00 <Lish> Yeah but this doesn't make you high 
31:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't know the why, just a gut feeling which will turn out to be correct
31:00 <Lish> And is natural lol it's watermelon flavour 
31:22 <Lish> Why for pretentious tosses?
31:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> the marijuana people all say it's harmless too
31:49 <Lish> Yeah but this doesn't make you high
31:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't know the why, just a gut feeling which will turn out to be correct
31:57 <Lish> And is natural lol it's watermelon flavour
32:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they just haven't discovered how it's bad for you yet
32:00 <doctor> I wouldn't say they're harmless, just like I wouldn't say drinking water is harmless. Everything has potential to do harm
32:00 <Lish> Hahaha yeah but it's not that bad
32:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> they just haven't discovered how it's bad for you yet
32:47 <doctor> I wouldn't say they're harmless, just like I wouldn't say drinking water is harmless. Everything has potential to do harm
33:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they should be smashed
33:00 <doctor> thankfully the body is a pretty resilient thing
33:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> and the users whipped
33:00 <doctor> it can even stand against time, the mother of all potential harms
33:00 <doctor> but she wins in the end
33:09 <Lish> Hahaha yeah but it's not that bad
33:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> they should be smashed
33:23 <doctor> thankfully the body is a pretty resilient thing
33:28 <DaylightSlavingTime> and the users whipped
33:50 <doctor> it can even stand against time, the mother of all potential harms
33:55 <doctor> but she wins in the end
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> they are just like shishas that arabs have
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> lish's husband is arab
34:00 <Lish> Yeah like those
34:00 <Lish> Hahaha
34:31 <happy-lil-camper> they are just like shishas that arabs have
34:38 <happy-lil-camper> lish's husband is arab
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> i have thought about it to be honest
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> i would probably try it
35:00 <Lish> I just tried it
35:00 <Lish> But I choked and coughed 
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> what do you think
35:00 <Lish> I'm not very cool
35:00 <Lish> It's weird, tasted like purple hubba bubba
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't know what they are either, but being arab is reason enough to hate it with extreme passion
35:01 <Lish> Yeah like those
35:02 <Lish> Hahaha
35:10 <happy-lil-camper> i have thought about it to be honest
35:22 <happy-lil-camper> i would probably try it
35:36 <Lish> I just tried it
35:40 <Lish> But I choked and coughed
35:42 <happy-lil-camper> what do you think
35:48 <Lish> I'm not very cool
35:58 <Lish> It's weird, tasted like purple hubba bubba
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> i was actualy thinking of bubble gum too
36:03 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't know what they are either, but being arab is reason enough to hate it with extreme passion
36:50 <happy-lil-camper> i was actualy thinking of bubble gum too
37:00 <Lish> Haha
38:00 <Lish> The unit was $120 the liquids are like $10 each 
38:00 <Lish> Might be ok 
38:00 <Lish> He seems to like it haha
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> lish you're going to go from vapes to shishas. and then you're going to run into a charming arab who with pamphlets about ISIS and soon enough you're going to leave current husband to be an ISIS breed
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> vapes lead to terrorism
38:00 <Lish> Hahahaha maybe
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> bride*
38:09 <Lish> Haha
38:21 <Lish> The unit was $120 the liquids are like $10 each
38:24 <Lish> Might be ok
38:29 <Lish> He seems to like it haha
38:45 <happy-lil-camper> lish you're going to go from vapes to shishas. and then you're going to run into a charming arab who with pamphlets about ISIS and soon enough you're going to leave current husband to be an ISIS breed
38:50 <happy-lil-camper> vapes lead to terrorism
38:56 <Lish> Hahahaha maybe
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> do you think Muslims have the right to wear burqas Lish?
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> anywhere?
39:00 <Lish> They can do what they like
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> what about cancel all NBA games during Ramadanb
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> and all reality TV
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> because it offends Allah
39:04 <happy-lil-camper> bride*
39:26 <happy-lil-camper> do you think Muslims have the right to wear burqas Lish?
39:30 <happy-lil-camper> anywhere?
39:35 <Lish> They can do what they like
39:49 <happy-lil-camper> what about cancel all NBA games during Ramadanb
39:54 <happy-lil-camper> and all reality TV
39:59 <happy-lil-camper> because it offends Allah
40:00 <Lish> That wouldn't be cool
40:00 <happy-lil-camper> they would be the first to ban gay marriage, and flushing toilets
40:00 <Lish> But I don't have strong opinions on burqas 
40:00 <Lish> I think at airports they should take them off, so they can see their faces
40:00 <Lish> I have to take my hate
40:00 <Lish> Hat off
40:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I could only approve of these things if they are extremely harmful, such as pass a law that all vape liquids must have at least 1% arsenic
40:28 <Lish> That wouldn't be cool
40:28 <happy-lil-camper> they would be the first to ban gay marriage, and flushing toilets
40:41 <Lish> But I don't have strong opinions on burqas
40:51 <Lish> I think at airports they should take them off, so they can see their faces
40:54 <Lish> I have to take my hate
40:57 <Lish> Hat off
40:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> I could only approve of these things if they are extremely harmful, such as pass a law that all vape liquids must have at least 1% arsenic
41:00 <Lish> Lol
41:00 <Lish> Straight outta Compton was good
41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> did it talk about George W Bush?
41:41 <Lish> Lol
41:48 <Lish> Straight outta Compton was good
42:00 <Lish> No
42:01 <DaylightSlavingTime> did it talk about George W Bush?
43:00 <happy-lil-camper> Lish, what sort of people came to see it? fairly represensative of the general population>? or lots of wannabe thugs?
43:00 <Lish> We went to gold class, so mostly couples around our age
43:08 <Lish> No
43:17 <happy-lil-camper> Lish, what sort of people came to see it? fairly represensative of the general population>? or lots of wannabe thugs?
44:00 <Lish> All white
44:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> did it mention that hardly any blacks live in Compton anymore, and that they've been pushed out by Mexican gangs?
44:00 <happy-lil-camper> i can see myself looking at the people lining up for the tickets. there'd be a tall sudanese overly dressed in gold jewellery and pants half way down to his knees and then he sees a group of friends coming and say "suppppp dawg>???" and does the tryhard handshakes
44:00 <happy-lil-camper> hahahah im not surprised actually. all white
44:00 <Lish> It was set in the 80/90s 
44:00 <happy-lil-camper> John Safranish sort of people
44:00 <Lish> It's representative of our area though
44:00 <Lish> Would only be white or Asians at any film
44:10 <Lish> We went to gold class, so mostly couples around our age
44:25 <Lish> All white
44:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> did it mention that hardly any blacks live in Compton anymore, and that they've been pushed out by Mexican gangs?
44:31 <happy-lil-camper> i can see myself looking at the people lining up for the tickets. there'd be a tall sudanese overly dressed in gold jewellery and pants half way down to his knees and then he sees a group of friends coming and say "suppppp dawg>???" and does the tryhard handshakes
44:43 <happy-lil-camper> hahahah im not surprised actually. all white
44:44 <Lish> It was set in the 80/90s
44:51 <happy-lil-camper> John Safranish sort of people
44:52 <Lish> It's representative of our area though
45:00 <happy-lil-camper> any Asians lasgt night?
45:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the asians only go to the blockbuster films?
45:00 <Lish> Nah none in gold class
45:00 <Lish> There's only like 20ppl in a cinema 
45:05 <Lish> Would only be white or Asians at any film
45:39 <happy-lil-camper> any Asians lasgt night?
45:51 <DaylightSlavingTime> the asians only go to the blockbuster films?
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> hi friends
46:00 <ajnin__> Lish sounds like sppeing gold class
46:00 <happy-lil-camper> maybe Asians are too stingy for gold class
46:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi ivan
46:00 <happy-lil-camper> hi ivan
46:02 <Lish> Nah none in gold class
46:09 <Lish> There's only like 20ppl in a cinema
46:25 <IvanTheBastard> hi friends
46:37 <ajnin__> Lish sounds like sppeing gold class
46:51 <happy-lil-camper> maybe Asians are too stingy for gold class
46:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi ivan
46:59 <happy-lil-camper> hi ivan
47:00 <IvanTheBastard> whats going on
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47:37 <IvanTheBastard> whats going on
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish went to see a negro movie, with an all white audience
48:00 <happy-lil-camper> i have been negotiation with warren for your seat at his banquet. i shall also have to negotiate with your wife soon to let you be free for that night
48:00 <IvanTheBastard> fantastic, how affirmative action of her
48:00 <happy-lil-camper> negotiating*
48:00 <IvanTheBastard> banquet??
48:00 <IvanTheBastard> are we going to Sizzler???
48:31 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish went to see a negro movie, with an all white audience
48:44 <happy-lil-camper> i have been negotiation with warren for your seat at his banquet. i shall also have to negotiate with your wife soon to let you be free for that night
48:49 <IvanTheBastard> fantastic, how affirmative action of her
48:56 <happy-lil-camper> negotiating*
49:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> perhaps it's like jazz and blues, that blacks don't listen to anymore, and classic rap has gone the same way, purely a white audience
49:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Sizzler would be good
49:00 <happy-lil-camper> warren does not like the idea of anyone going home hungry
49:00 <happy-lil-camper> he's just like that
49:00 <happy-lil-camper> we will be weighed before the night and after
49:00 <happy-lil-camper> we must reach within obese BMI orstay
49:06 <IvanTheBastard> banquet??
49:09 <IvanTheBastard> are we going to Sizzler???
49:12 <DaylightSlavingTime> perhaps it's like jazz and blues, that blacks don't listen to anymore, and classic rap has gone the same way, purely a white audience
49:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> Sizzler would be good
49:34 <happy-lil-camper> warren does not like the idea of anyone going home hungry
49:37 <happy-lil-camper> he's just like that
49:53 <happy-lil-camper> we will be weighed before the night and after
50:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like Sizzler's potato skins, that's all I have
50:00 <IvanTheBastard> he will write and SOP for the event
50:00 <IvanTheBastard> an*
50:05 <happy-lil-camper> we must reach within obese BMI orstay
50:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like Sizzler's potato skins, that's all I have
50:48 <IvanTheBastard> he will write and SOP for the event
50:55 <IvanTheBastard> an*
53:00 <Lish> The movie was really good
53:00 <Lish> And I got churros delivered 
53:00 <Lish> And my husband got cheesecake
53:53 <Lish> The movie was really good
53:58 <Lish> And I got churros delivered
54:03 <Lish> And my husband got cheesecake
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> new cabinet announcing TiggerAndroid2 
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> DaylightSlavingTime
55:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I wonder who was demoted
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> Kevin Andrews dumpbed
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> dumped*
55:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> so refugee flood to start again
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> Scott Morrison as Treasurer
55:11 <happy-lil-camper> new cabinet announcing TiggerAndroid2
55:17 <happy-lil-camper> DaylightSlavingTime
55:30 <DaylightSlavingTime> I wonder who was demoted
55:46 <happy-lil-camper> Kevin Andrews dumpbed
55:48 <happy-lil-camper> dumped*
55:58 <DaylightSlavingTime> so refugee flood to start again
56:09 <happy-lil-camper> Scott Morrison as Treasurer
59:00 <Lish> I need to work
59:00 <Lish> But I'm too lazy
59:23 <Lish> I need to work
59:25 <Lish> But I'm too lazy
00:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what happens if you don't?
00:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> what happens if you don't?
01:00 <Lish> I just get more behind 
01:00 <Lish> And won't be prepared for a presentation tomorrow
01:00 <happy-lil-camper> internal presentation?
01:00 <happy-lil-camper> or will there be clients
01:15 <Lish> I just get more behind
01:21 <Lish> And won't be prepared for a presentation tomorrow
01:52 <happy-lil-camper> internal presentation?
02:00 <happy-lil-camper> or will there be clients
02:00 <happy-lil-camper> Lish pay me and i will create the presentation for you
02:00 <Lish> It's a demo to some of our stake holders in England and Europe 
02:00 <happy-lil-camper> you should see my breaking ban videos they are of the very best
02:17 <happy-lil-camper> Lish pay me and i will create the presentation for you
02:51 <Lish> It's a demo to some of our stake holders in England and Europe
02:53 <happy-lil-camper> you should see my breaking ban videos they are of the very best
03:00 <happy-lil-camper> is your company originally from England?
03:12 <happy-lil-camper> is your company originally from England?
04:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> In this same poll, prior to Wednesday night’s debate, Trump sat at 33% support. Dr. Ben Carson sat in second place with 17% support. Today Trump enjoys 36% support. Carson is still in second place but with just 12% support.
04:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Trump’s lead increased from +16 points to  +24%. That’s an +8% jump.
04:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> With their shared status as outsiders, it appears as though Carson’s support went to Fiorina. Prior to the debate the former-Hewlett Packard CEO had just 3% support. She now sits in third place with 10%, only -2 points behind second place Carson.
04:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> can't stump the Trump
04:00 <Lish> No it's an Australian company
04:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> In this same poll, prior to Wednesday night’s debate, Trump sat at 33% support. Dr. Ben Carson sat in second place with 17% support. Today Trump enjoys 36% support. Carson is still in second place but with just 12% support.
04:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> Trump’s lead increased from +16 points to +24%. That’s an +8% jump.
04:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> With their shared status as outsiders, it appears as though Carson’s support went to Fiorina. Prior to the debate the former-Hewlett Packard CEO had just 3% support. She now sits in third place with 10%, only -2 points behind second place Carson.
04:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> can't stump the Trump
04:42 <Lish> No it's an Australian company
05:00 <happy-lil-camper> and it has expanded into Europe? not bad
05:00 <Lish> Yeah
05:35 <happy-lil-camper> and it has expanded into Europe? not bad
05:45 <Lish> Yeah
06:00 <Lish> I just need to record some demo videos today 
06:00 <Lish> I think that's all
06:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> if only they opened up a branch office across the road from where the NBA play
06:00 <Lish> Haha 
06:48 <Lish> I just need to record some demo videos today
06:51 <Lish> I think that's all
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> if only they opened up a branch office across the road from where the NBA play
07:00 <Lish> There was a Business analyst job at the NBA advertised recently
07:00 <Lish> In New Jersey 
07:00 <Lish> But they don't sponsor visas :(
07:08 <Lish> Haha
07:19 <Lish> There was a Business analyst job at the NBA advertised recently
07:22 <Lish> In New Jersey
07:29 <Lish> But they don't sponsor visas :(
08:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> would the job include free tickets to the games?
08:00 <happy-lil-camper> lol Lish
08:00 <happy-lil-camper> would you 
08:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> would the job include free tickets to the games?
09:00 <Lish> I would definately
09:00 <Lish> It was working on their website and apps
09:00 <Lish> I use both almost daily, I would be a shoe in
09:01 <happy-lil-camper> lol Lish
09:06 <happy-lil-camper> would you
09:14 <Lish> I would definately
09:22 <Lish> It was working on their website and apps
09:41 <Lish> I use both almost daily, I would be a shoe in
10:00 <happy-lil-camper> oh right
10:20 <happy-lil-camper> oh right
11:00 <Lish> :)
11:49 <Lish> :)
12:00 <IvanTheBastard> lish
13:00 <IvanTheBastard> you would go work for the NBA?
13:00 <IvanTheBastard> are you that fanatical?
13:00 <Lish> Why wouldn't I work for the NBA? 
13:09 <IvanTheBastard> lish
13:35 <IvanTheBastard> you would go work for the NBA?
13:39 <IvanTheBastard> are you that fanatical?
14:00 <Lish> If they had a job available doing what I already do?
14:00 <IvanTheBastard> unacceptable
14:00 <Lish> Wouldn't you want to do something you love for a product you love?
14:00 <IvanTheBastard> i suppose
14:00 <IvanTheBastard> but when the honeymoon is over, do you think it could diminish your love of that product?
14:00 <IvanTheBastard> like when you actualy see the inner workings of the company it might turn you off
14:04 <Lish> Why wouldn't I work for the NBA?
14:12 <Lish> If they had a job available doing what I already do?
14:26 <IvanTheBastard> unacceptable
14:28 <Lish> Wouldn't you want to do something you love for a product you love?
14:45 <IvanTheBastard> i suppose
14:56 <IvanTheBastard> but when the honeymoon is over, do you think it could diminish your love of that product?
15:00 <Lish> Nope because it's a sport, and I would work on the app
15:00 <Lish> It's separate 
15:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm reminded of Venkman's fantasy job with Apple
15:05 <IvanTheBastard> like when you actualy see the inner workings of the company it might turn you off
15:20 <Lish> Nope because it's a sport, and I would work on the app
15:22 <Lish> It's separate
15:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm reminded of Venkman's fantasy job with Apple
16:00 <Lish> It would be a dream to work at the NBA
16:00 <Lish> But won't happen for me unfortunately 
16:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I know what you're thinking
16:36 <Lish> It would be a dream to work at the NBA
16:43 <Lish> But won't happen for me unfortunately
16:59 <DaylightSlavingTime> I know what you're thinking
17:00 <Lish> What
17:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> "Lish, one of our players has twisted his ankle, you're going to have to go out there in his place!"
17:00 <Lish> Hahaha
17:00 <Lish> I just think it'd be fun to work on something you're passionate about 
17:00 <happy-lil-camper> lmao
17:00 <Lish> I like what I do, but I don't love finance 
17:12 <Lish> What
17:24 <DaylightSlavingTime> "Lish, one of our players has twisted his ankle, you're going to have to go out there in his place!"
17:29 <Lish> Hahaha
18:00 <Lish> I just think it'd be fun to work on something you're passionate about
18:00 <Lish> I'd also love to work at trip advisor 
18:04 <happy-lil-camper> lmao
18:08 <Lish> I like what I do, but I don't love finance
18:15 <Lish> I'd also love to work at trip advisor
20:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> are there many jobs for that?
20:58 <DaylightSlavingTime> are there many jobs for that?
21:00 <Lish> Not in Australia 
21:53 <Lish> Not in Australia
22:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'd imagine travel agencies are very prone to being a victim of computerised efficiency, such as eventually the customer could just tick a few selections and the software would get you the best priced options for everything and book it all in one go
22:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'd imagine travel agencies are very prone to being a victim of computerised efficiency, such as eventually the customer could just tick a few selections and the software would get you the best priced options for everything and book it all in one go
23:00 <Lish> Yeah there aren't many profitable travel agencies anymore
23:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I've played around with travel sites, and thought there's a lot more room for improvement yet
23:26 <Lish> Yeah there aren't many profitable travel agencies anymore
24:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> I've played around with travel sites, and thought there's a lot more room for improvement yet
25:00 <Lish> There's a few good ones
25:44 <Lish> There's a few good ones
27:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the improvements will come, then there won't be much use for a local shopping centre travel agency
27:20 <DaylightSlavingTime> the improvements will come, then there won't be much use for a local shopping centre travel agency
28:00 <Lish> Probably
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28:52 <Lish> Probably
34:00 <Warren1984> hey Lish how are you
34:00 <Warren1984> Lish I made a big mindmap of all the things I need money for
34:00 <Lish> Hi
34:00 <Lish> Ok
34:00 <Lish> What do you need money for
34:27 <Warren1984> hey Lish how are you
34:53 <Warren1984> Lish I made a big mindmap of all the things I need money for
34:56 <Lish> Hi
34:56 <Lish> Ok
35:00 <Warren1984> survival
35:00 <Warren1984> computers
35:00 <Warren1984> entertainment
35:00 <Warren1984> holidays
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> Warren1984 is Lish invited to your party?
35:00 <Warren1984> yes
35:03 <Lish> What do you need money for
35:13 <Warren1984> survival
35:15 <Warren1984> computers
35:18 <Warren1984> entertainment
35:31 <Warren1984> holidays
35:52 <IvanTheBastard> Warren1984 is Lish invited to your party?
36:00 <IvanTheBastard> lish would you make the flight over to have an exclusive sizzler banquet and then kareoke afterward?
36:00 <Lish> No
36:02 <Warren1984> yes
36:37 <IvanTheBastard> lish would you make the flight over to have an exclusive sizzler banquet and then kareoke afterward?
37:10 <Lish> No
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> but warren is a #pd star
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> celebrity
38:15 <IvanTheBastard> but warren is a #pd star
38:18 <IvanTheBastard> celebrity
40:00 <Lish> Lol
40:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> you could see a basketball game in Perth while you're there
40:50 <Lish> Lol
41:10 <DaylightSlavingTime> you could see a basketball game in Perth while you're there
42:00 <Lish> Pass
42:00 <Lish> Not into Australian basketball
42:16 <Lish> Pass
42:22 <Lish> Not into Australian basketball
43:00 <Lish> I just did another personality test I saw on Facebook 
43:00 <Lish> ISFJ-A
43:15 <Lish> I just did another personality test I saw on Facebook
43:34 <Lish> ISFJ-A
44:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what is that?
44:42 <DaylightSlavingTime> what is that?
45:00 <Lish> I dunno one of warrens things I guess
45:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
45:40 <Lish> I dunno one of warrens things I guess
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45:56 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> morning Mx_Brettingham_Trump 
47:00 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime I finally figured out how to recover my Outlook files
47:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> morning Mx_Brettingham_Trump
47:56 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime I finally figured out how to recover my Outlook files
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ISFJs are true altruists, meeting kindness with kindness-in-excess and engaging the work and people they believe in with enthusiasm and generosity.
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> that's the opposite of you Lish 
48:00 <Lish> Hahahaha
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ISFJs live in a world that is concrete and kind. They are truly warm and kind-hearted, and want to believe the best of people. They value harmony and cooperation, and are likely to be very sensitive to other people's feelings. People value the ISFJ for their consideration and awareness, and their ability to bring out the best in others by their firm desire to believe the best.
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ROFL
48:14 <DaylightSlavingTime> ISFJs are true altruists, meeting kindness with kindness-in-excess and engaging the work and people they believe in with enthusiasm and generosity.
48:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> that's the opposite of you Lish
48:49 <Lish> Hahahaha
49:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> words never used to describe Lish 
49:00 <Lish> That's def me
49:03 <DaylightSlavingTime> ISFJs live in a world that is concrete and kind. They are truly warm and kind-hearted, and want to believe the best of people. They value harmony and cooperation, and are likely to be very sensitive to other people's feelings. People value the ISFJ for their consideration and awareness, and their ability to bring out the best in others by their firm desire to believe the best.
49:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> ROFL
49:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> words never used to describe Lish
49:30 <Lish> That's def me
50:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, of course you're sensitive to other people's feelings
50:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish
50:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> u got your games lined up to record overnight?
50:17 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, of course you're sensitive to other people's feelings
50:36 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish
50:43 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> u got your games lined up to record overnight?
51:00 <Lish> I am sensitive for others feelings
51:00 <Lish> Bretty, nfl?
51:30 <Lish> I am sensitive for others feelings
51:36 <Lish> Bretty, nfl?
52:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> niggerfl
52:00 <Lish> Pass
52:18 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> niggerfl
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53:08 <Lish> Pass
04:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish
04:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i saw an ad on tv for nbloser starting oct 9
04:13 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish
04:37 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i saw an ad on tv for nbloser starting oct 9
05:00 <Lish> Yeah playing all the games on Foxtel
05:00 <Lish> Going to shower 
05:00 <Lish> Back soon 
05:39 <Lish> Yeah playing all the games on Foxtel
05:43 <Lish> Going to shower
05:45 <Lish> Back soon
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09:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Johnny football
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09:49 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Johnny football
12:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/09/19/im-one-donald-trump-vows-protect-christians-religious-liberty/
12:00 <progressive> [ Donald Trump Holds Up Mother's Bible, Vows to Protect Christians ] - www.breitbart.com
12:32 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/09/19/im-one-donald-trump-vows-protect-christians-religious-liberty/
12:33 <progressive> [ Donald Trump Holds Up Mother's Bible, Vows to Protect Christians ] - www.breitbart.com
13:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> good way to be anti muslim without saying it
13:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> he's likely also sticking up for Christian bakers and florists who get harassed over gay weddings
13:20 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> good way to be anti muslim without saying it
13:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> he's likely also sticking up for Christian bakers and florists who get harassed over gay weddings
18:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Officers said Ahmed was being “passive aggressive” in his answers to their questions, and didn’t have a “reasonable answer” as to what he was doing with the case. Investigators said the student told them that it was just a clock that he was messing around with. “We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only say it was a clock. He didn’t offer any explanation as to what it was for
18:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> , why he created this device, why he brought it to school,” said James McLellan, Irving Police.
18:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> Officers said Ahmed was being “passive aggressive” in his answers to their questions, and didn’t have a “reasonable answer” as to what he was doing with the case. Investigators said the student told them that it was just a clock that he was messing around with. “We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only say it was a clock. He didn’t offer any explanation as to what it was for
18:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> , why he created this device, why he brought it to school,” said James McLellan, Irving Police.
19:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> And according to the cops, Ahmed was significantly more cooperative with friendly media than with the police who came to ask some simple questions.
19:38 <DaylightSlavingTime> And according to the cops, Ahmed was significantly more cooperative with friendly media than with the police who came to ask some simple questions.
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10:38 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> Ahmed' Sentence has been already determined
11:01 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> 400 hours community service to work on TRUMP WALL
12:11 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i saw that
12:16 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> obama is inviting him to the white house
12:22 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> if it was a white kid he wouldnt be invited
13:13 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> He got a job offer from Zuckerberg
13:47 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> For his shit clock
14:09 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> thats right
15:29 <Great^Wall^Of^Trump> "Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause, not arrest. The future belongs to people like Ahmed,"Zuckerberg said in his post. "Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I'd love to meet you. Keep building."
17:26 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what a loser
26:16 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime -> http://www.news.com.au/world/tiger-attacks-kills-woman-at-new-zealand-zoo/story-fndir2ev-1227535493112
26:17 <progressive> [ Hamilton Zoo tiger attack: woman killed at New Zealand zoo ] - www.news.com.au
36:13 <ajnin> hello
36:20 <ajnin> must be getting old
36:23 <ajnin> 1830
36:27 <ajnin> and I want to go to bed
50:28 <doctor> sounds like boredom
50:40 <doctor> i seem to get a second wind when the sun goes down
50:50 <doctor> during 1-7 usually sucks though
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56:19 <wolframhart> Anyone seen me m8 wazza
56:33 <wolframhart> Hes a big boy now nearly 31
57:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> The New Zealand Herald is reporting the woman was a zoo keeper and she died this morning at Hamilton Zoo, a 25ha site in Rotokauri, halfway between Rotorua and Auckland.
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57:52 <wolframhart> From what?
58:01 <wolframhart> Lion tiger snake
58:07 <wolframhart> Hippo rhino
58:10 <DaylightSlavingTime> I wonder if she was a maori, one of those would look very tasty to a tiger
58:15 <wolframhart> Gorilla bear
58:21 <wolframhart> Ahhhh
58:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> “There has been a reported attack of a tiger on a zookeeper at Hamilton Zoo.”
58:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> The zoo has three Sumatran tigers, including male Jaka and females Mencari and Molek, which arrived at the Hamilton Zoo in 2001, a year after staff opened the exhibit.
58:58 <wolframhart> During psychosis i once saw this maori woman as acannibal
59:16 <wolframhart> Like an old racist caricature in my head
59:24 <DaylightSlavingTime> well it wasn't so long ago that they were
59:52 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's one of the reasons why I find polynesians much scarier than abos
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46:00 <Warren1984> doctor do you want to come to my birthday party
46:00 <grubs> What sort of party are you having Warren ?
46:31 <Warren1984> doctor do you want to come to my birthday party
47:00 <Warren1984> birthday
47:00 <grubs> Isit a piss up party or nerds eating soggy biccies and playing board games?
47:04 <grubs> What sort of party are you having Warren ?
47:39 <Warren1984> birthday
48:02 <grubs> Isit a piss up party or nerds eating soggy biccies and playing board games?
50:00 <Warren1984> just at a resturant
50:00 <Marttin> someone removed PDIS topic Mx_Brettingham_Trump
50:00 <Warren1984> people can choose if they want to drink
50:51 <Warren1984> just at a resturant
50:53 <Marttin> someone removed PDIS topic Mx_Brettingham_Trump
51:00 <Warren1984> people can choose if they want to drink
51:00 <grubs> What sort of resturant ?
51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> [+fjnrt 5:4 3:5] Welcome to #Promliticaldiscussion
51:00 <Warren1984> tigger's pet is the unbeatable gold medalist in drinking comps
51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> there will be party games, like Soggy Sao
51:28 <grubs> What sort of resturant ?
51:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> [+fjnrt 5:4 3:5] Welcome to #Promliticaldiscussion
51:34 <Warren1984> tigger's pet is the unbeatable gold medalist in drinking comps
51:51 <DaylightSlavingTime> there will be party games, like Soggy Sao
52:00 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime does your pet knock down beers with hee haw?
52:00 <Warren1984> see who can drink the most
52:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Clip Clop drinks orange juice
52:00 <grubs> Warren1984, Can I come to your party ?
52:00 <grubs> When isit ?
52:14 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime does your pet knock down beers with hee haw?
52:23 <Warren1984> see who can drink the most
52:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> Clip Clop drinks orange juice
52:59 <grubs> Warren1984, Can I come to your party ?
53:07 <grubs> When isit ?
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54:00 <Marttin> oh, so I changed it, and didnt know how to fix it
54:42 <Marttin> oh, so I changed it, and didnt know how to fix it
55:00 <Marttin> I also see it like that on /list
55:00 <Marttin> but not when I join
55:13 <Marttin> I also see it like that on /list
55:16 <Marttin> but not when I join
57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> isn't it time to delete that channel now?
57:00 <Marttin> never
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57:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> isn't it time to delete that channel now?
57:42 <Marttin> never
58:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> it is the most important channel on irc 4,4 behind nerdhacks 
59:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> he's never coming back
59:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> heh
59:03 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> it is the most important channel on irc  behind nerdhacks
59:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> he's never coming back
59:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> heh
02:00 <doctor> wheres it at warren?
03:10 <doctor> wheres it at warren?
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09:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Sizzler was mentioned earlier, a good idea
10:00 <wolframhart> Warren you  paety animal
10:00 <wolframhart> Yeh morley sizzler
10:00 <wolframhart> That is literally around the corner from lampy lets invite ber too
10:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> Sizzler was mentioned earlier, a good idea
10:19 <wolframhart> Warren you paety animal
10:34 <wolframhart> Yeh morley sizzler
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10:59 <wolframhart> That is literally around the corner from lampy lets invite ber too
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17:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> hello unpreordained 
17:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> hello unpreordained
27:00 <Lish> Back
27:00 <Warren1984> lish123
27:38 <Lish> Back
28:00 <Lish> What
28:10 <Warren1984> lish123
28:24 <Lish> What
30:00 <Warren1984> [18:03] <@doctor> wheres it at warren? <- some resturant not sure yet
30:35 <Warren1984> [18:03] <@doctor> wheres it at warren? <- some resturant not sure yet
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32:00 <Marttin> Mx_Brettingham_Trump, in case you missed it on #NH, pisstopher http://cdn.20m.es/img2/recortes/2015/09/19/241020-323-242.jpg?v=20150919211305
32:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Crows are intelligent creatures. They use tools creatively, have actual common sense, and if you wrong one, he or she will remember your face forevermore. Seattle researchers studied banded crows and found out that they would never forget a human who caused them harm. The researchers found that even after years of not seeing a “dangerous” human, the crows will instantly react upon seeing them. At first, crows will scold the
32:00 <DaylightSlavingTime>  human and call for other crows to join the scolding. Then they will gather into flocks of over 30 crows and dive-bomb the person. Maybe a group of crows is called a murder for a reason.Additionally, crows will tell other crows about a dangerous face. Crows who haven’t seen a particularly bothersome person will still react to one, and this knowledge can spread to flocks a mile or more away from where the negative experience f
32:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> irst occurred. Their memories of dangerous people can last a lifetime. Of course, this means that scientists have to be careful if they capture and study crows, because the crows will never forgive them.
32:13 <Marttin> Mx_Brettingham_Trump, in case you missed it on #NH, pisstopher http://cdn.20m.es/img2/recortes/2015/09/19/241020-323-242.jpg?v=20150919211305
32:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> Crows are intelligent creatures. They use tools creatively, have actual common sense, and if you wrong one, he or she will remember your face forevermore. Seattle researchers studied banded crows and found out that they would never forget a human who caused them harm. The researchers found that even after years of not seeing a “dangerous” human, the crows will instantly react upon seeing them. At first, crows will scold the
32:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> human and call for other crows to join the scolding. Then they will gather into flocks of over 30 crows and dive-bomb the person. Maybe a group of crows is called a murder for a reason.Additionally, crows will tell other crows about a dangerous face. Crows who haven’t seen a particularly bothersome person will still react to one, and this knowledge can spread to flocks a mile or more away from where the negative experience f
32:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> irst occurred. Their memories of dangerous people can last a lifetime. Of course, this means that scientists have to be careful if they capture and study crows, because the crows will never forgive them.
33:00 <Lish> Crows are stupid and noisey 
33:00 <Lish> I am eating pickled onions 
33:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> crows are extremely smart
33:22 <Lish> Crows are stupid and noisey
33:28 <Lish> I am eating pickled onions
34:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what is a pickled onion?
34:00 <Lish> They piss me off
34:00 <Warren1984> doctor where do you download cracks these days?
34:00 <doctor> Havent downloaded anything that has needed to be cracked in a long while
34:00 <Warren1984> duplicates remover for outlook 2013
34:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> crows are extremely smart
34:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> what is a pickled onion?
34:32 <Lish> They piss me off
34:36 <Warren1984> doctor where do you download cracks these days?
35:00 <doctor> Wouldn't trust anything over torrents
35:00 <Warren1984> yeah same
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> They put a scrap of food outside the crows' cage, far enough away that the crows couldn't reach it. Also outside the cage was a long stick, long enough to reach the food but farther than the crows could reach. Inside the cage was a short stick, tied to the crows' perch. It was too short to reach the food, but long enough to reach the longer stick. Got all that?
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> No problem for the crows. They untied the string and used the short stick to get the long stick, which they used to reach the food. Just like that.
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> crows are the true analysts of nature
35:05 <doctor> Havent downloaded anything that has needed to be cracked in a long while
35:09 <Warren1984> duplicates remover for outlook 2013
35:16 <doctor> Wouldn't trust anything over torrents
35:25 <Warren1984> yeah same
35:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> They put a scrap of food outside the crows' cage, far enough away that the crows couldn't reach it. Also outside the cage was a long stick, long enough to reach the food but farther than the crows could reach. Inside the cage was a short stick, tied to the crows' perch. It was too short to reach the food, but long enough to reach the longer stick. Got all that?
35:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> No problem for the crows. They untied the string and used the short stick to get the long stick, which they used to reach the food. Just like that.
35:49 <DaylightSlavingTime> crows are the true analysts of nature
36:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Marttin thats that loser gasol
36:00 <doctor> I used to think that the big black birds around here were crows but it turns out they are ravens
36:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> crows are a type of raven
36:00 <doctor> Oh, well makes sense
36:00 <doctor> I like them
36:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Australian crows aren't really crows in the European sense, they're all ravens
36:00 <doctor> They tease my dog
36:00 <Lish> What loser gasoline
36:15 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Marttin thats that loser gasol
36:20 <doctor> I used to think that the big black birds around here were crows but it turns out they are ravens
36:31 <DaylightSlavingTime> crows are a type of raven
36:42 <doctor> Oh, well makes sense
36:47 <doctor> I like them
36:49 <DaylightSlavingTime> Australian crows aren't really crows in the European sense, they're all ravens
36:56 <doctor> They tease my dog
37:00 <Lish> Gasol
37:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yeah a crow used to come to the window each morning and taunt Yeowie
37:00 <Lish> Oh Spain are in the Olympics I saw 
37:00 <doctor> They're never starting fights with other birds like the magpies and honey eaters do
37:00 <Lish> Did they beat France?
37:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lol gasoline
37:00 <doctor> maybe their crows are just taunts to other birds and they get fed up
37:00 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime favourite music -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fhx2YgbskE
37:00 <progressive> [ Hip Hop Urban RnB Club Music MEGAMIX 2015 - CLUB MUSIC - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
37:10 <Lish> What loser gasoline
37:15 <Lish> Gasol
37:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> yeah a crow used to come to the window each morning and taunt Yeowie
37:20 <Lish> Oh Spain are in the Olympics I saw
37:25 <doctor> They're never starting fights with other birds like the magpies and honey eaters do
37:28 <Lish> Did they beat France?
37:48 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lol gasoline
37:53 <doctor> maybe their crows are just taunts to other birds and they get fed up
38:07 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime favourite music -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fhx2YgbskE
38:08 <progressive> [ Hip Hop Urban RnB Club Music MEGAMIX 2015 - CLUB MUSIC - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
39:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the cleverest thing I've personally seen crows do, there was a garbage bin with a hinged lid, and one wasn't strong enough to lift the lid, so three of them perched on the edge, one for each side, and together lifted the lid and flipped it over, so they could have a feed inside
39:00 <Lish> Ok 
39:00 <Lish> You're being aspie, stop talking about crows
39:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the first black animals you don't like
39:00 <ajnin> hello all
39:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHQbu5rbdQ
39:00 <progressive> [ Fifth Harmony - Worth It ft. Kid Ink - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
39:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> the cleverest thing I've personally seen crows do, there was a garbage bin with a hinged lid, and one wasn't strong enough to lift the lid, so three of them perched on the edge, one for each side, and together lifted the lid and flipped it over, so they could have a feed inside
39:30 <Lish> Ok
39:39 <Lish> You're being aspie, stop talking about crows
39:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> the first black animals you don't like
40:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi ajnin 
40:00 <Lish> Hey Ajnin
40:07 <ajnin> hello all
40:10 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHQbu5rbdQ
40:11 <progressive> [ Fifth Harmony - Worth It ft. Kid Ink - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
40:16 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi ajnin
40:30 <Lish> Hey Ajnin
41:00 <Warren1984> Lish loves Hip Hop
42:00 <doctor> Yeah most birds around here seem quite intelligent
42:00 <doctor> more so than the domesticated animals
42:00 <doctor> typically dogs
42:00 <Lish> Pickled onions have 6 calories
42:06 <Warren1984> Lish loves Hip Hop
42:21 <doctor> Yeah most birds around here seem quite intelligent
42:29 <doctor> more so than the domesticated animals
42:36 <doctor> typically dogs
43:00 <doctor> though I did see a cat today inspecting under the bonnet of a 4wd, I thought that was a bit silly
43:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> how many calories in a regular onion?
43:00 <Lish> I dunno
43:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> cats love the warmth, it sometimes gets them into trouble
43:06 <Lish> Pickled onions have 6 calories
43:26 <doctor> though I did see a cat today inspecting under the bonnet of a 4wd, I thought that was a bit silly
43:28 <DaylightSlavingTime> how many calories in a regular onion?
43:33 <Lish> I dunno
43:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> cats love the warmth, it sometimes gets them into trouble
44:00 <doctor> true, my cat is always trying to steal mine
44:00 <Lish> Haha my husband is gross
44:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what's he doing now?
44:15 <doctor> true, my cat is always trying to steal mine
45:00 <Lish> He just ate a pickled onion I had eaten the edges of 
45:00 <Lish> But stopped because I was dull
45:00 <Lish> Full
45:02 <Lish> Haha my husband is gross
45:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> what's he doing now?
45:17 <Lish> He just ate a pickled onion I had eaten the edges of
45:22 <Lish> But stopped because I was dull
45:24 <Lish> Full
51:00 <Warren1984> Lish's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHQbu5rbdQ
51:00 <progressive> [ Fifth Harmony - Worth It ft. Kid Ink - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
51:23 <Warren1984> Lish's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHQbu5rbdQ
51:24 <progressive> [ Fifth Harmony - Worth It ft. Kid Ink - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
54:00 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime can you find me a CD Key code for "Order Duplicates Remover for Outlook"
54:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> how much is it to buy?
54:00 <Lish> Not my favourite song
54:00 <Warren1984> $24 american dollars
54:00 <Warren1984> then it's tigger's favourite song
54:20 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime can you find me a CD Key code for "Order Duplicates Remover for Outlook"
54:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> how much is it to buy?
54:41 <Lish> Not my favourite song
54:55 <Warren1984> $24 american dollars
55:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> lish probably has a copy at her work
55:07 <Warren1984> then it's tigger's favourite song
55:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> lish probably has a copy at her work
56:00 <Lish> Of what
56:57 <Lish> Of what
57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> of Order Duplicates Remover for Outlook
57:00 <Lish> What's that
57:13 <DaylightSlavingTime> of Order Duplicates Remover for Outlook
57:46 <Lish> What's that
58:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> warren's outlook PST files got corrupted again
58:00 <Lish> Oh ok
58:00 <Lish> Dunno
58:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> warren's outlook PST files got corrupted again
58:48 <Lish> Oh ok
58:54 <Lish> Dunno
00:00 <Warren1984> nuh I fixed the corrupt files with scanpst
00:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Outlook seems like an awful lot of trouble, and it's expensive
00:49 <Warren1984> nuh I fixed the corrupt files with scanpst
01:00 <Warren1984> 448 duplicates
01:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> Outlook seems like an awful lot of trouble, and it's expensive
01:18 <Warren1984> 448 duplicates
04:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> if you switched to Thunderbird which is free you'd never have all these problems
04:14 <DaylightSlavingTime> if you switched to Thunderbird which is free you'd never have all these problems
05:00 <Lish> I had Pez today
05:46 <Lish> I had Pez today
06:00 <ajnin> good night
06:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/7h3iFQH
06:00 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
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06:12 <ajnin> good night
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06:31 <Lish> http://imgur.com/7h3iFQH
06:32 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like Pez
07:00 <Marttin> I use to eat those
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> how many refill packs do you have?
07:00 <Marttin> do you know that pez means fish in spanish?
07:00 <Lish> Just 2 
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> no, didn't know that
07:00 <Lish> Nope that's cool
07:17 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like Pez
07:18 <Marttin> I use to eat those
07:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> how many refill packs do you have?
07:27 <Marttin> do you know that pez means fish in spanish?
07:32 <Lish> Just 2
07:34 <DaylightSlavingTime> no, didn't know that
07:36 <Lish> Nope that's cool
08:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> are Pez from Spain?  like Chupa Chups
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09:00 <Marttin> no idea 
09:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Pez (trademarked PEZ in capitals) is the brand name of an Austrian candy and their mechanical pocket dispensers. The candy itself takes the shape of pressed, dry, straight-edged, curved-corner, blocks (15 mm (5/8 inch) long, 8 mm (5/16 inch) wide, and 5 mm (3/16 inch) high), with Pez dispensers holding 12 Pez pieces.
09:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Pez was originally introduced in Austria, later exported, notably to the U.S., and eventually became available worldwide.
09:10 <DaylightSlavingTime> are Pez from Spain? like Chupa Chups
09:38 <Marttin> no idea
10:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> so that's two great things from Austria
10:08 <DaylightSlavingTime> Pez (trademarked PEZ in capitals) is the brand name of an Austrian candy and their mechanical pocket dispensers. The candy itself takes the shape of pressed, dry, straight-edged, curved-corner, blocks (15 mm (5/8 inch) long, 8 mm (5/16 inch) wide, and 5 mm (3/16 inch) high), with Pez dispensers holding 12 Pez pieces.
10:08 <DaylightSlavingTime> Pez was originally introduced in Austria, later exported, notably to the U.S., and eventually became available worldwide.
10:18 <DaylightSlavingTime> so that's two great things from Austria
12:00 <Marttin> the other one is hitler?
12:00 <doctor> conchita wurst
12:00 <Marttin> lol
12:19 <Marttin> the other one is hitler?
12:51 <doctor> conchita wurst
12:57 <Marttin> lol
13:00 <Marttin> conchita is also spanish
13:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> lol
14:00 <Marttin> conchita is also spanish
14:00 <Marttin> I guess italian/spanish influence is greater in austria than germany/swiss
14:08 <DaylightSlavingTime> lol
14:27 <Marttin> I guess italian/spanish influence is greater in austria than germany/swiss
19:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish, get this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PEZ-Candy-Refills-Fruit-Flavoured-Lollies-100-Pks-/271965260907?hash=item3f52648c6b
19:00 <progressive> [ PEZ Candy Refills Fruit Flavoured Lollies 100 PKS | eBay ] - www.ebay.com.au
19:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> Lish, get this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PEZ-Candy-Refills-Fruit-Flavoured-Lollies-100-Pks-/271965260907?hash=item3f52648c6b
19:59 <progressive> [ PEZ Candy Refills Fruit Flavoured Lollies 100 PKS | eBay ] - www.ebay.com.au
20:00 <Lish> Pretty good value 
20:52 <Lish> Pretty good value
21:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I had forgotten these existed, I used to get them from the corner shop after school: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Allens-Cobbers-Chocolate-Caramel-1-8kg-Box-Allens-Cobber-Buffet-Sweets-Favors/170871387785
21:00 <progressive> [ Allens Cobbers Chocolate Caramel 1 8kg BOX Allen[apos]S Cobber Buffet Sweets Favors | eBay ] - www.ebay.com.au
21:43 <DaylightSlavingTime> I had forgotten these existed, I used to get them from the corner shop after school: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Allens-Cobbers-Chocolate-Caramel-1-8kg-Box-Allens-Cobber-Buffet-Sweets-Favors/170871387785
21:45 <progressive> [ Allens Cobbers Chocolate Caramel 1 8kg BOX Allen[apos]S Cobber Buffet Sweets Favors | eBay ] - www.ebay.com.au
22:00 <IvanTheBastard> so i bought some new golf clubs 3 months ago and after my coaching on saturday i got told they dont suit me and i need to get special fitted ones
22:00 <IvanTheBastard> feelsbadman.jpg
22:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> how much were they?
22:00 <IvanTheBastard> clearance special at $600
22:00 <IvanTheBastard> usually 1k
22:23 <IvanTheBastard> so i bought some new golf clubs 3 months ago and after my coaching on saturday i got told they dont suit me and i need to get special fitted ones
22:26 <IvanTheBastard> feelsbadman.jpg
22:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> how much were they?
23:00 <IvanTheBastard> just my irons tho
23:00 <IvanTheBastard> my driver alone is probably $300
23:00 <IvanTheBastard> expensive hobby man.
23:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes
23:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> how come they don't suit you?
23:04 <IvanTheBastard> clearance special at $600
23:07 <IvanTheBastard> usually 1k
23:20 <IvanTheBastard> just my irons tho
23:27 <IvanTheBastard> my driver alone is probably $300
23:42 <IvanTheBastard> expensive hobby man.
23:46 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes
23:52 <DaylightSlavingTime> how come they don't suit you?
24:00 <IvanTheBastard> im consistently hitting the toe of the club, losing power and accuracy
24:00 <IvanTheBastard> coach seems to think when i get the clubs properly fitted they can angle the club head to compensate for that
24:00 <IvanTheBastard> im a little skeptical, im sure we can fix that with training
24:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/STAR-WARS-PEZ-DARTH-VADER-CHARACTER-STARWARS-CANDY-DISPENSER-INCLUDES-PEZ-/321864752595
24:00 <progressive> [ Star Wars PEZ Darth Vader Character Starwars Candy Dispenser Includes PEZ | eBay ] - www.ebay.com.au
24:00 <IvanTheBastard> (ie he might just be trying to sell me clubs)
24:28 <IvanTheBastard> im consistently hitting the toe of the club, losing power and accuracy
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24:53 <IvanTheBastard> coach seems to think when i get the clubs properly fitted they can angle the club head to compensate for that
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> but hes a good dude and i trust him, so i dno
25:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm thinking that too, they're just sticks after all?
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> you'd be surprised hahaha
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> length of shaft, angle of club head
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> grips
25:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> test these clubs out first to see if they really do what he says
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> weight of shaft, flex of shaft
25:02 <IvanTheBastard> im a little skeptical, im sure we can fix that with training
25:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/STAR-WARS-PEZ-DARTH-VADER-CHARACTER-STARWARS-CANDY-DISPENSER-INCLUDES-PEZ-/321864752595
25:06 <progressive> [ Star Wars PEZ Darth Vader Character Starwars Candy Dispenser Includes PEZ | eBay ] - www.ebay.com.au
25:09 <IvanTheBastard> (ie he might just be trying to sell me clubs)
25:19 <IvanTheBastard> but hes a good dude and i trust him, so i dno
25:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm thinking that too, they're just sticks after all?
25:51 <IvanTheBastard> you'd be surprised hahaha
25:57 <IvanTheBastard> length of shaft, angle of club head
25:59 <IvanTheBastard> grips
26:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> test these clubs out first to see if they really do what he says
26:00 <IvanTheBastard> well i did sorta
26:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> any difference?
26:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah i hit closer to the center of the club and it was a nice few shots
26:05 <IvanTheBastard> weight of shaft, flex of shaft
26:12 <IvanTheBastard> well i did sorta
26:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> any difference?
26:40 <IvanTheBastard> yeah i hit closer to the center of the club and it was a nice few shots
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> that club was angled abit better for me, still not quite as much as i need though
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> but yes for what it was, still an improvement
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> basically if you hit on the heel or toe of a club you'll lose power and accuracy, sweet spot is centreish
27:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> so how much are they?
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> if you can always hit the sweet spot you can effectively become pro hahaha
27:31 <IvanTheBastard> that club was angled abit better for me, still not quite as much as i need though
27:39 <IvanTheBastard> but yes for what it was, still an improvement
27:56 <IvanTheBastard> basically if you hit on the heel or toe of a club you'll lose power and accuracy, sweet spot is centreish
28:00 <IvanTheBastard> well, cost is the variable here
28:00 <IvanTheBastard> all big brands allow customization of their clubs
28:00 <IvanTheBastard> usually the ones that are current season
28:06 <DaylightSlavingTime> so how much are they?
28:10 <IvanTheBastard> if you can always hit the sweet spot you can effectively become pro hahaha
28:34 <IvanTheBastard> well, cost is the variable here
28:48 <IvanTheBastard> all big brands allow customization of their clubs
28:56 <IvanTheBastard> usually the ones that are current season
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> some brands will make you pay extra for customization (ie taylormade)
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> but i think callaway dont
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> he didnt seem to think for my level of skill brand mattered too much right now, just getting the right fit to improve my game
29:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I see
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> so im a little depressed
29:13 <IvanTheBastard> some brands will make you pay extra for customization (ie taylormade)
29:18 <IvanTheBastard> but i think callaway dont
29:38 <IvanTheBastard> he didnt seem to think for my level of skill brand mattered too much right now, just getting the right fit to improve my game
29:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> I see
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30:00 <IvanTheBastard> it seems ill need to upgrade clubs in order to get off the plateau im on now
30:00 <IvanTheBastard> well maybe not upgrade but lets compare it with shoes, im effectively wearing a pair of shoes that are 2 sizes to small because they were on special
30:10 <IvanTheBastard> so im a little depressed
30:30 <IvanTheBastard> it seems ill need to upgrade clubs in order to get off the plateau im on now
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> they are really good shoes, but they dont fit
31:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> well if you can sell the current golf clubs, maybe it won't be so bad
31:03 <IvanTheBastard> well maybe not upgrade but lets compare it with shoes, im effectively wearing a pair of shoes that are 2 sizes to small because they were on special
31:27 <IvanTheBastard> they are really good shoes, but they dont fit
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> i can definately move them 
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> they are still in demand
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> will lose alot of value though because they are 'used'
32:07 <DaylightSlavingTime> well if you can sell the current golf clubs, maybe it won't be so bad
32:29 <IvanTheBastard> i can definately move them
32:33 <IvanTheBastard> they are still in demand
32:49 <IvanTheBastard> will lose alot of value though because they are 'used'
33:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> or keep them for home defense
33:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> or keep them for home defense
34:00 <IvanTheBastard> hahaha too expensive for thta
34:55 <IvanTheBastard> hahaha too expensive for thta
35:00 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime do you like bimbos?
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> of course Warren1984 
35:19 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime do you like bimbos?
35:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> of course Warren1984
37:00 <Lish>        Omg
37:00 <Lish> Golf lol
37:47 <Lish> Omg
37:54 <Lish> Golf lol
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> lish you are becoming a corporate type
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> you will need to learn how to play
38:00 <Lish> Incorrect 
38:00 <Lish> I'm too cool for that shit
38:00 <Lish> I'm going to buy yeezy sneakers when I can
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> i used to think the game was shit man
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> complete shit
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> until i started playing
38:00 <xm> ive never seen a bimbo before. just girls who just refused to be learned because they know they could get men to do what they wanted
38:12 <IvanTheBastard> lish you are becoming a corporate type
38:18 <IvanTheBastard> you will need to learn how to play
38:20 <Lish> Incorrect
38:26 <Lish> I'm too cool for that shit
38:39 <Lish> I'm going to buy yeezy sneakers when I can
38:42 <IvanTheBastard> i used to think the game was shit man
38:45 <IvanTheBastard> complete shit
38:48 <IvanTheBastard> until i started playing
39:00 <Lish> Only place to get yeezy at the moment is eBay
39:00 <Lish> http://www.ebay.com/rpp/collectible-sneakers/adidas-yeezy-boost/
39:00 <progressive> [ Adidas Yeezy Boost 350 ] - www.ebay.com
39:10 <xm> ive never seen a bimbo before. just girls who just refused to be learned because they know they could get men to do what they wanted
39:29 <Lish> Only place to get yeezy at the moment is eBay
39:31 <Lish> http://www.ebay.com/rpp/collectible-sneakers/adidas-yeezy-boost/
39:32 <progressive> [ Adidas Yeezy Boost 350 ] - www.ebay.com
43:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> nigger shoes?
43:00 <Lish> Yeah 
43:00 <Lish> Expensive ones 
43:17 <DaylightSlavingTime> nigger shoes?
43:51 <Lish> Yeah
43:55 <Lish> Expensive ones
44:00 <Lish> You don't wear sneakers?
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> used to love sneakers when i was younger
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> so comfortable
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> good on the ankles and knees ( apparently)
44:11 <Lish> You don't wear sneakers?
44:44 <IvanTheBastard> used to love sneakers when i was younger
44:46 <IvanTheBastard> so comfortable
44:53 <IvanTheBastard> good on the ankles and knees ( apparently)
45:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like sneakers, but it's getting very hard to find black ones
45:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't want white ones
45:48 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like sneakers, but it's getting very hard to find black ones
45:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't want white ones
46:00 <Lish> You can get black on black Jordan's
46:00 <Lish> http://www.brooklynajays.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/img_3392.jpg
46:00 <Lish> You can also get black on black converse 
46:00 <Lish> http://cdn.converse.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/13310_black_0.png
46:28 <Lish> You can get black on black Jordan's
46:30 <Lish> http://www.brooklynajays.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/img_3392.jpg
46:38 <Lish> You can also get black on black converse
47:07 <Lish> http://cdn.converse.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/13310_black_0.png
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't like the look of the Jordan's, look too pro for me
48:00 <Lish> These nikes are nice
48:00 <Lish> http://cdn.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/nike-sb-trainerendor-triple-black-02.jpg
48:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't like the look of the Jordan's, look too pro for me
48:58 <Lish> These nikes are nice
49:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> how much are they?
49:00 <Lish> I dunno
49:00 <Lish> $90 USD
49:01 <Lish> http://cdn.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/nike-sb-trainerendor-triple-black-02.jpg
49:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> how much are they?
49:43 <Lish> I dunno
50:00 <Lish> Not too bad
50:00 <Lish> I have purple sneakers, it's my thing haha
50:05 <Lish> $90 USD
50:39 <Lish> Not too bad
50:46 <Lish> I have purple sneakers, it's my thing haha
52:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't want to spend much over $100
52:00 <Lish> Nike jordans, and Nike runners both purple 
52:00 <Lish> And then I have like 100 pairs of converse 
52:50 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't want to spend much over $100
53:00 <Lish> Fussy
53:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they're just shoes, the people who are impressed by that sort of thing I don't want to impress
53:00 <Lish> You won't get much good under $100
53:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> a shame
53:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> but yes, $100 is the floor price now
53:03 <Lish> Nike jordans, and Nike runners both purple
53:10 <Lish> And then I have like 100 pairs of converse
53:18 <Lish> Fussy
53:20 <DaylightSlavingTime> they're just shoes, the people who are impressed by that sort of thing I don't want to impress
53:32 <Lish> You won't get much good under $100
53:37 <DaylightSlavingTime> a shame
53:49 <DaylightSlavingTime> but yes, $100 is the floor price now
54:00 <Lish> Yeah, they are so expensive 
54:12 <Lish> Yeah, they are so expensive
55:00 <Lish> Oh my husband got these too
55:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/Wh7Pt5R
55:00 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
55:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> http://morsels.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/014_1.jpg
55:16 <Lish> Oh my husband got these too
55:51 <Lish> http://imgur.com/Wh7Pt5R
55:52 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
56:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> http://morsels.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/014_1.jpg
56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I love those, but I don't get the watermelon flavour naturally
56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> those fries look underdone
56:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> I love those, but I don't get the watermelon flavour naturally
57:00 <AndroUser> Oi tigger
57:00 <Lish> Omg I want that now Bretty
57:00 <AndroUser> It has come to my attention u are a Corbyn suportrr4
57:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> those fries look underdone
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57:13 <AndroUser> Oi tigger
57:36 <Lish> Omg I want that now Bretty
57:42 <AndroUser> It has come to my attention u are a Corbyn suportrr4
58:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> AndroUser, no, do you realise that Corbyn had sex with a nigger woman?
58:00 <AndroUser> He won by a landslide
58:00 <AndroUser> Cameron favors only the south of England
58:00 <AndroUser> He is a loser
58:16 <DaylightSlavingTime> AndroUser, no, do you realise that Corbyn had sex with a nigger woman?
58:31 <AndroUser> He won by a landslide
58:55 <AndroUser> Cameron favors only the south of England
59:00 <AndroUser> He favors rich losers
59:00 <AndroUser> Shitty healthcare
59:00 <AndroUser> For poor losers
59:00 <AndroUser> Weak on immigration
59:01 <AndroUser> He is a loser
59:20 <AndroUser> He favors rich losers
59:23 <AndroUser> Shitty healthcare
59:37 <AndroUser> For poor losers
59:48 <AndroUser> Weak on immigration
00:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he is strong on immigration now
00:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he just kept it quiet at the election
00:00 <AndroUser> Tigger the problem is Corbyn got elected labor PM AFTER the election
00:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Corbyn isn't the PM
00:00 <AndroUser> I mean labour leader
00:23 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he is strong on immigration now
00:39 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he just kept it quiet at the election
00:48 <AndroUser> Tigger the problem is Corbyn got elected labor PM AFTER the election
01:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Corbyn isn't the PM
01:00 <AndroUser> So he wasnt up for PM
01:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> he's just the leader of a fail party
01:00 <AndroUser> U know what im trying to say here
01:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> whos AndroUser? 
01:00 <Marttin> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-wozniak-bernie-sanders_55e59df0e4b0c818f61904de
01:00 <progressive> [ Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Tweets Support For Bernie Sanders ] - www.huffingtonpost.com
01:08 <AndroUser> I mean labour leader
01:13 <AndroUser> So he wasnt up for PM
01:18 <DaylightSlavingTime> he's just the leader of a fail party
01:21 <AndroUser> U know what im trying to say here
01:40 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> whos AndroUser?
01:52 <Marttin> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-wozniak-bernie-sanders_55e59df0e4b0c818f61904de
01:53 <progressive> [ Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Tweets Support For Bernie Sanders ] - www.huffingtonpost.com
02:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> skip
02:00 <AndroUser> DaylightSlavingTime did u leave Scotland due to Cameron's reelection
02:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Steve Wozniak also said he was moving to Australia, and had filled out the application forms.  was he rejected for being too fat and stupid?
02:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i thought so, he seems drug/alco free atm though
02:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> skip
02:59 <AndroUser> DaylightSlavingTime did u leave Scotland due to Cameron's reelection
03:00 <AndroUser> You think so Mx_brettingham_smell?
03:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> AndroUser, Cameron is actually Scottish, like most British PMs of the last century
03:00 <AndroUser> But hes against healthcare for poor cunts
03:00 <AndroUser> And weak on immigration
03:03 <DaylightSlavingTime> Steve Wozniak also said he was moving to Australia, and had filled out the application forms. was he rejected for being too fat and stupid?
03:05 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i thought so, he seems drug/alco free atm though
03:35 <AndroUser> You think so Mx_brettingham_smell?
03:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> AndroUser, Cameron is actually Scottish, like most British PMs of the last century
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03:57 <AndroUser> But hes against healthcare for poor cunts
04:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, but that's because he's a Cuckservative
04:00 <AndroUser> Is this why u left scotland
04:06 <AndroUser> And weak on immigration
04:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, but that's because he's a Cuckservative
04:59 <AndroUser> Is this why u left scotland
05:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes
05:00 <Marttin> at the age of -140
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05:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes
06:09 <Marttin> at the age of -140
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it was in 1837 that my first descendent moved from Scotland to Australia
07:00 <AndroUser> Tigger how many Syrians is scotland absorbing
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ancestor, rather
07:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> none I hope
07:00 <AndroUser> China is taking none
07:00 <AndroUser> Racist gooks
07:24 <DaylightSlavingTime> it was in 1837 that my first descendent moved from Scotland to Australia
07:35 <AndroUser> Tigger how many Syrians is scotland absorbing
07:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> ancestor, rather
07:43 <DaylightSlavingTime> none I hope
07:52 <AndroUser> China is taking none
07:59 <AndroUser> Racist gooks
08:00 <AndroUser> Tigger how many Syrians are u absorbing
08:00 <AndroUser> In your household
08:00 <AndroUser> U could take on a couple
08:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> 5 families, one for each bedroom
08:33 <AndroUser> Tigger how many Syrians are u absorbing
08:38 <AndroUser> In your household
09:00 <AndroUser> As a gesture of humanitarianism
09:07 <AndroUser> U could take on a couple
09:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> 5 families, one for each bedroom
09:17 <AndroUser> As a gesture of humanitarianism
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10:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I insist on being provided with a halal cookbook though, I'm not paying for it myself!
10:51 <DaylightSlavingTime> I insist on being provided with a halal cookbook though, I'm not paying for it myself!
12:00 <AndroUser> I have a jewish friend who lives in Turkey
12:00 <AndroUser> I honestly don't understand how a jew could survive living in such a towel head nation
12:26 <AndroUser> I have a jewish friend who lives in Turkey
12:49 <AndroUser> I honestly don't understand how a jew could survive living in such a towel head nation
13:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> turkey is somewhat modern
13:00 <AndroUser> I said 'why are u unemployed'
13:12 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> turkey is somewhat modern
13:15 <AndroUser> I said 'why are u unemployed'
15:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ISIS are operating only a few km from the Turkish border
15:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> ISIS are operating only a few km from the Turkish border
16:00 <AndroUser> Erdogan just likes to toy with israel
16:31 <AndroUser> Erdogan just likes to toy with israel
17:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> that American slut who was kidnapped and raped by ISIS was only just past the Turkish border when they caught her
17:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> that American slut who was kidnapped and raped by ISIS was only just past the Turkish border when they caught her
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18:00 <AndroUser> DaylightSlavingTime ur acting irrational now
18:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> AndroUser, did you know that ISIS is really run by a Jew by the name of Simon Elliot?
18:24 <AndroUser> DaylightSlavingTime ur acting irrational now
19:00 <AndroUser> Lol
19:00 <AndroUser> Resorting to that level of low hey
19:00 <AndroUser> I can tell u ISIS is of no threat to israel
19:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> AndroUser, did you know that ISIS is really run by a Jew by the name of Simon Elliot?
19:38 <AndroUser> Lol
19:47 <AndroUser> Resorting to that level of low hey
20:00 <IvanTheBastard> lol of course its not
20:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> that is because isis are jews
20:00 <IvanTheBastard> Isreal has the best military in the region
20:00 <IvanTheBastard> isreal could wipe ISIS off the face of the map in 3 or 4 days
20:00 <AndroUser> ISIS is a threat to america
20:07 <AndroUser> I can tell u ISIS is of no threat to israel
20:22 <IvanTheBastard> lol of course its not
20:25 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> that is because isis are jews
20:28 <IvanTheBastard> Isreal has the best military in the region
20:39 <IvanTheBastard> isreal could wipe ISIS off the face of the map in 3 or 4 days
20:40 <AndroUser> ISIS is a threat to america
21:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> yeah isis's lone wolf attacks are bring america to its knees
21:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> brining
21:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> bringing
21:00 <AndroUser> Not exactly
21:00 <AndroUser> Hezbollah is threat to israel
21:24 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> yeah isis's lone wolf attacks are bring america to its knees
21:30 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> brining
21:34 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> bringing
21:54 <AndroUser> Not exactly
22:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what throwing their fire crackers over the border?
22:00 <IvanTheBastard> they are an annoyance hardly a threat
22:00 <AndroUser> Isis is mainly threat to america only
22:00 <IvanTheBastard> isreal could wipe the floor with hezbollah of the international community turned a blind eye for a month or two
22:08 <AndroUser> Hezbollah is threat to israel
22:40 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what throwing their fire crackers over the border?
22:49 <IvanTheBastard> they are an annoyance hardly a threat
23:00 <IvanTheBastard> but its gonna take alot of collateral damage
23:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> collateral damage is good in that part of the world
23:00 <AndroUser> I have no idea
23:00 <IvanTheBastard> all those goat fuckers are the same as hamas, hide behind women and children
23:01 <AndroUser> Isis is mainly threat to america only
23:03 <IvanTheBastard> isreal could wipe the floor with hezbollah of the international community turned a blind eye for a month or two
23:26 <IvanTheBastard> but its gonna take alot of collateral damage
23:41 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> collateral damage is good in that part of the world
23:41 <AndroUser> I have no idea
23:42 <IvanTheBastard> all those goat fuckers are the same as hamas, hide behind women and children
24:00 <AndroUser> Hizbollah is mainly threat to xm and associated phillipino losers
24:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> just bomb the women and children too
24:00 <IvanTheBastard> ISIS is only a threat because the western world grants muslims the same rights we grant our own people
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24:51 <AndroUser> Hizbollah is mainly threat to xm and associated phillipino losers
24:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> just bomb the women and children too
25:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> or more rights
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> if we realised they arent playing by the same rules that western civilised peoples do, then they would vanish in an instant
25:00 <IvanTheBastard> just show your support for Dictator Ivan when the day of the rope comes and ill sort it all out
25:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> try turning up in a boat as a white person, bypassing customs and law, and they'll assume you're a drug smuggler
25:01 <IvanTheBastard> ISIS is only a threat because the western world grants muslims the same rights we grant our own people
25:12 <DaylightSlavingTime> or more rights
25:33 <IvanTheBastard> if we realised they arent playing by the same rules that western civilised peoples do, then they would vanish in an instant
25:54 <IvanTheBastard> just show your support for Dictator Ivan when the day of the rope comes and ill sort it all out
26:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> oh and losing all your documentation while you're at it
26:00 <AndroUser> President Ivan shall we bomb iraq
26:00 <AndroUser> For the oil?
26:00 <IvanTheBastard> Australia?
26:00 <IvanTheBastard> No, we'd get owned
26:00 <AndroUser> No faggot.  Usa
26:00 <AndroUser> Idiot
26:00 <IvanTheBastard> if i was america, yes, i would say 'Give me your oil'
26:00 <IvanTheBastard> if not, i would level the place
26:00 <AndroUser> Would u say please?
26:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> try turning up in a boat as a white person, bypassing customs and law, and they'll assume you're a drug smuggler
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26:31 <DaylightSlavingTime> oh and losing all your documentation while you're at it
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26:35 <AndroUser> President Ivan shall we bomb iraq
26:39 <AndroUser> For the oil?
26:48 <IvanTheBastard> Australia?
26:51 <IvanTheBastard> No, we'd get owned
26:56 <AndroUser> No faggot. Usa
26:57 <AndroUser> Idiot
26:59 <IvanTheBastard> if i was america, yes, i would say 'Give me your oil'
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> look ill be honest with you friend
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> if i was president of USA
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> i'd release all the secret energy shit theyve discovered in the last 50 years and free the world
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> but not before levelling the middle east and finishing islam once and for all
27:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Trump is just going to take all the oil
27:07 <IvanTheBastard> if not, i would level the place
27:08 <AndroUser> Would u say please?
27:17 <IvanTheBastard> look ill be honest with you friend
27:21 <IvanTheBastard> if i was president of USA
27:37 <IvanTheBastard> i'd release all the secret energy shit theyve discovered in the last 50 years and free the world
27:48 <IvanTheBastard> but not before levelling the middle east and finishing islam once and for all
27:52 <DaylightSlavingTime> Trump is just going to take all the oil
28:00 <IvanTheBastard> I think at least Trump will be direct in getting what he wants
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28:51 <IvanTheBastard> I think at least Trump will be direct in getting what he wants
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> but the world has to wake the fuck up and phase out oil
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> if it wasnt for oil nobody would give 2 fucks about mid east
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> oil was great 100 years ago when it was everywhere and so cheap why wouldnt you run everything on it
29:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> thats not true
29:00 <IvanTheBastard> we've known for 50 years its running out
29:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> iraq have fuck all oil
29:13 <IvanTheBastard> but the world has to wake the fuck up and phase out oil
29:21 <IvanTheBastard> if it wasnt for oil nobody would give 2 fucks about mid east
29:54 <IvanTheBastard> oil was great 100 years ago when it was everywhere and so cheap why wouldnt you run everything on it
29:57 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> thats not true
29:59 <IvanTheBastard> we've known for 50 years its running out
30:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> iraq have fuck all oil
30:00 <IvanTheBastard> obviously enough for US to want to get involved brett
30:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> well why dont they go take on the saudis, they have the most
30:40 <IvanTheBastard> obviously enough for US to want to get involved brett
31:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> well why dont they go take on the saudis, they have the most
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> i think its a little more complex then perhaps just going straight for the lagerst reserves and controlling them, its about controlling the known producers
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> are you stupid?
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> yank administration love the sauds for that very reason
31:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's Saudi Arabia that is running out of oil
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> they turn a blind eye to everything
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> Sauds are fucking over Yemen yet you hear diddly squat do you wonder why that is?
31:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> in 2030 Saudi Arabia is expected to be an oil importer
31:12 <IvanTheBastard> i think its a little more complex then perhaps just going straight for the lagerst reserves and controlling them, its about controlling the known producers
31:18 <IvanTheBastard> are you stupid?
31:25 <IvanTheBastard> yank administration love the sauds for that very reason
31:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's Saudi Arabia that is running out of oil
31:30 <IvanTheBastard> they turn a blind eye to everything
31:42 <IvanTheBastard> Sauds are fucking over Yemen yet you hear diddly squat do you wonder why that is?
31:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> in 2030 Saudi Arabia is expected to be an oil importer
32:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> IvanTheBastard that is because the yanks are on the saudi's side
32:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> but it won't matter one way or the other, new techniques of extracting oil will get cheaper and better all the time
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32:36 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> IvanTheBastard that is because the yanks are on the saudi's side
32:49 <DaylightSlavingTime> but it won't matter one way or the other, new techniques of extracting oil will get cheaper and better all the time
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> i agree with you there Brett but the motivation is because of oil, otherwise why be in bed with the Sauds?
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> strategic possibly
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> keeping them off isreal possibly
33:00 <IvanTheBastard> oil? definately
33:00 <Marttinn> To stop progress on the region
33:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the region is still the biggest oil producer, but that is changing
33:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> they want to stop irans influence
33:21 <IvanTheBastard> i agree with you there Brett but the motivation is because of oil, otherwise why be in bed with the Sauds?
33:35 <IvanTheBastard> strategic possibly
33:38 <IvanTheBastard> keeping them off isreal possibly
33:41 <IvanTheBastard> oil? definately
33:50 <Marttinn> To stop progress on the region
33:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> the region is still the biggest oil producer, but that is changing
34:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> they want to stop irans influence
34:00 <IvanTheBastard> Marttinn, Islam and arabs stopped their own progress centurys ago because they never reformed from within
34:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> another factor is that the US wants the middle east oil to flow, or else Europe will become dependent on Russian energy
34:00 <IvanTheBastard> ottoman empire was their last bastion of hope, when that shit died in the ass Islam, that ideolgy and taht entire region have been living in the stone ages ever since
34:00 <IvanTheBastard> Why would they care about Iran Brett?
34:20 <IvanTheBastard> Marttinn, Islam and arabs stopped their own progress centurys ago because they never reformed from within
34:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> another factor is that the US wants the middle east oil to flow, or else Europe will become dependent on Russian energy
34:45 <IvanTheBastard> ottoman empire was their last bastion of hope, when that shit died in the ass Islam, that ideolgy and taht entire region have been living in the stone ages ever since
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> let me guess, another big oil producer
35:00 <Marttinn> Afganistan had a man on the space during the soviet era
35:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> because they dont want iran controlling the entire middle east
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> lol what?
35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> as in riding a Soviet rocket?
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> whats wrong with that?
35:00 <IvanTheBastard> if it wasnt for Isreal would they care?
35:10 <IvanTheBastard> Why would they care about Iran Brett?
35:15 <IvanTheBastard> let me guess, another big oil producer
35:27 <Marttinn> Afganistan had a man on the space during the soviet era
35:34 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> because they dont want iran controlling the entire middle east
35:37 <DaylightSlavingTime> lol what?
35:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> as in riding a Soviet rocket?
35:55 <IvanTheBastard> whats wrong with that?
36:00 <IvanTheBastard> the answer is, its gotta be oil
36:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> world security
36:00 <Marttinn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Ahad_Mohmand stone age
36:00 <IvanTheBastard> maybe
36:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> all the money iraq make from oil goes to iran
36:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> a lot of this goes back to the Cold War, Iran sided with the Soviets, while Saudi Arabia sided with America, and through the 80s agreed to keep the oil prices low to hurt the Soviet economy
36:02 <IvanTheBastard> if it wasnt for Isreal would they care?
36:17 <IvanTheBastard> the answer is, its gotta be oil
36:24 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> world security
36:59 <Marttinn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Ahad_Mohmand stone age
37:00 <Marttinn> Lol
37:01 <IvanTheBastard> maybe
37:04 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> all the money iraq make from oil goes to iran
37:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> a lot of this goes back to the Cold War, Iran sided with the Soviets, while Saudi Arabia sided with America, and through the 80s agreed to keep the oil prices low to hurt the Soviet economy
38:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> a lot of other middle eastern countries sided with the USSR too, like Egypt for awhile, Libya, Syria
38:00 <Marttinn> Iran didnt really sided with soviets
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> hang on he went to the sovier union
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> you made it sound liek he hitched a ride on a missile launched from Afganistan
38:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Iran had a pro-Soviet leader that the CIA had to overthrow and replace with the Shah
38:00 <IvanTheBastard> nice trolling martin, 11/10 would read again
38:11 <Marttinn> Lol
38:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> a lot of other middle eastern countries sided with the USSR too, like Egypt for awhile, Libya, Syria
38:26 <Marttinn> Iran didnt really sided with soviets
38:44 <IvanTheBastard> hang on he went to the sovier union
38:57 <IvanTheBastard> you made it sound liek he hitched a ride on a missile launched from Afganistan
38:58 <DaylightSlavingTime> Iran had a pro-Soviet leader that the CIA had to overthrow and replace with the Shah
39:00 <Marttinn> Actually a socialist got iran for two years or so and the capitalist, either muslims or not bring him down
39:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> then the Shah was overthrown and replaced by the Ayotollahs, who were also pro-Soviet
39:00 <Marttinn> Tigger gave me the reason ivan
39:00 <Marttinn> You are short sighted in some aspects
39:04 <IvanTheBastard> nice trolling martin, 11/10 would read again
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39:17 <Marttinn> Actually a socialist got iran for two years or so and the capitalist, either muslims or not bring him down
39:43 <DaylightSlavingTime> then the Shah was overthrown and replaced by the Ayotollahs, who were also pro-Soviet
39:45 <Marttinn> Tigger gave me the reason ivan
39:59 <Marttinn> You are short sighted in some aspects
40:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> iran actually looked like a reasonable place to live back then
40:38 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> iran actually looked like a reasonable place to live back then
41:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> now its full of drug pigs
41:17 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> now its full of drug pigs
42:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, Iran is one of the most drug addicted countries in the world (the others are all Muslim too)
42:00 <IvanTheBastard> theres no doubt more indepth geopolitical tug of wars going on in the region for years for various reasons but all im saying is that its got a lot to do with oil
42:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, Iran is one of the most drug addicted countries in the world (the others are all Muslim too)
42:25 <IvanTheBastard> theres no doubt more indepth geopolitical tug of wars going on in the region for years for various reasons but all im saying is that its got a lot to do with oil
43:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> though the US has never really directly needed middle east oil, but Europe does
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43:40 <DaylightSlavingTime> though the US has never really directly needed middle east oil, but Europe does
45:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> one theory I find compelling is that when the US$ moved off the gold standard, it became defacto backed by oil instead of gold, and so to sustain the price of the US$ (especially through the 1970s stagflation era) it was imperative that the international oil trade was priced in US$
45:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> one theory I find compelling is that when the US$ moved off the gold standard, it became defacto backed by oil instead of gold, and so to sustain the price of the US$ (especially through the 1970s stagflation era) it was imperative that the international oil trade was priced in US$
46:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the US dont want iran controlling iraq's wealth
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> well the get tarifs if oil is traded in USD
46:00 <IvanTheBastard> they*
46:18 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the US dont want iran controlling iraq's wealth
46:41 <IvanTheBastard> well the get tarifs if oil is traded in USD
46:45 <IvanTheBastard> they*
47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it creates an international demand for US$
47:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the US do that for their own protection, so they never have any real debt problems
47:00 <IvanTheBastard> a fiat currency is only worth what the economy of the host nation is worth, if the USD is a unit used to trade oil that makes that currency a good brand
47:14 <DaylightSlavingTime> it creates an international demand for US$
47:25 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the US do that for their own protection, so they never have any real debt problems
47:59 <IvanTheBastard> a fiat currency is only worth what the economy of the host nation is worth, if the USD is a unit used to trade oil that makes that currency a good brand
48:00 <IvanTheBastard> so still confidence in the US economy even though they have staggering debt
48:00 <IvanTheBastard> its a fucked up system
48:00 <IvanTheBastard> really all money is debt these days, and the bankers are happy for that to be infinite. however resources are not infinite so go figure
48:21 <IvanTheBastard> so still confidence in the US economy even though they have staggering debt
48:35 <IvanTheBastard> its a fucked up system
48:56 <IvanTheBastard> really all money is debt these days, and the bankers are happy for that to be infinite. however resources are not infinite so go figure
49:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> well that is something we will never have to worry about in our lifetime 
49:00 <IvanTheBastard> lol bullshit, you really think that?
49:00 <IvanTheBastard> i hope you are right
49:00 <IvanTheBastard> that is my hope, but logically i cant agree
49:28 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> well that is something we will never have to worry about in our lifetime
49:47 <IvanTheBastard> lol bullshit, you really think that?
50:00 <IvanTheBastard> i hope you are right
50:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> well the first user of newly minuted currency gets to employ it at the non-inflated rate, but successive users are getting the inflated value
50:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what are we going to run out of?
50:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> so to keep the ball rolling, they inflate the currency slowly, doing too much at once backfires
50:07 <IvanTheBastard> that is my hope, but logically i cant agree
50:16 <DaylightSlavingTime> well the first user of newly minuted currency gets to employ it at the non-inflated rate, but successive users are getting the inflated value
50:19 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what are we going to run out of?
51:00 <IvanTheBastard> well i suppose brett thats a tricky question to answer
51:00 <IvanTheBastard> i could probably answer by saying which developed economy will crash first and bring the system down
51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the QE policy really didn't see much new currency entering the system, it all just ended up bolstering up stock prices, until it didn't
51:06 <DaylightSlavingTime> so to keep the ball rolling, they inflate the currency slowly, doing too much at once backfires
51:40 <IvanTheBastard> well i suppose brett thats a tricky question to answer
52:00 <IvanTheBastard> that would probably happen before resources run out
52:00 <IvanTheBastard> but i think a collapse of some of the major global wild fisheries could cause some major shit to go down too ( which if you believe some scientists is within 10 years for some stock)
52:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> gooks will just have to eat more rice instead
52:08 <IvanTheBastard> i could probably answer by saying which developed economy will crash first and bring the system down
52:10 <DaylightSlavingTime> the QE policy really didn't see much new currency entering the system, it all just ended up bolstering up stock prices, until it didn't
52:17 <IvanTheBastard> that would probably happen before resources run out
52:47 <IvanTheBastard> but i think a collapse of some of the major global wild fisheries could cause some major shit to go down too ( which if you believe some scientists is within 10 years for some stock)
53:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what sort of shit to go down?
53:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> there are fish farms everywhere
53:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> everything in coles and woolies is farmed
53:00 <IvanTheBastard> a massive portion of the worlds pop rely on the ocean and not farmed
53:00 <IvanTheBastard> i read up on it a while i could probably find it if i could be fucked
53:08 <DaylightSlavingTime> gooks will just have to eat more rice instead
53:13 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> what sort of shit to go down?
53:18 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> there are fish farms everywhere
53:30 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> everything in coles and woolies is farmed
54:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> hopefully mass starvation then
54:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah it wouldnt be us developed countries
54:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the best approach would be to flattern africa and the middle east
54:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> flatten
54:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I have always believed Malthus to be right, and want to see his predictions come true in my lifetime
54:03 <IvanTheBastard> a massive portion of the worlds pop rely on the ocean and not farmed
54:11 <IvanTheBastard> i read up on it a while i could probably find it if i could be fucked
54:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> hopefully mass starvation then
54:34 <IvanTheBastard> yeah it wouldnt be us developed countries
54:54 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> the best approach would be to flattern africa and the middle east
55:00 <Marttinn> Africa has always been starving for a long time, but still grow in numbers
55:04 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> flatten
55:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> I have always believed Malthus to be right, and want to see his predictions come true in my lifetime
56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, even when God smited them with AIDS it didn't slow them down much
56:00 <Marttinn> Just like yemen or pakistan i guess
56:00 <IvanTheBastard> do you think its foreign aid artifiically propping up population
56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ivan, that has a lot to do with it
56:09 <Marttinn> Africa has always been starving for a long time, but still grow in numbers
56:34 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, even when God smited them with AIDS it didn't slow them down much
56:44 <Marttinn> Just like yemen or pakistan i guess
56:50 <IvanTheBastard> do you think its foreign aid artifiically propping up population
57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> ivan, that has a lot to do with it
57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm just amazed that these rampantly homosexual societies also manage to have baby booms
57:00 <Marttinn> Yes, specially when have a great leader and the CIA kills it so they can keep getting all the goods for free
57:20 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm just amazed that these rampantly homosexual societies also manage to have baby booms
58:00 <Marttinn> Kills him*
58:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> are you referring to that Confessions of an Economic Hit man book?
58:04 <Marttinn> Yes, specially when have a great leader and the CIA kills it so they can keep getting all the goods for free
58:22 <Marttinn> Kills him*
58:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> are you referring to that Confessions of an Economic Hit man book?
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00:00 <Marttinn> I dont know that book
00:00 <Marttinn> I was referring to lumumba
00:00 <Marttinn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba
00:19 <Marttinn> I dont know that book
00:32 <Marttinn> I was referring to lumumba
00:59 <Marttinn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba
02:00 <Marttinn> If people like ivan were capable to understand that other races/cultures/religion also improved without straigh participation of a west country the world would be much better
02:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Within twelve weeks of Congolese independence in 1960, Lumumba's government was deposed in a coup during the Congo Crisis following his attempt to solicit support from the Soviet Union
02:30 <Marttinn> If people like ivan were capable to understand that other races/cultures/religion also improved without straigh participation of a west country the world would be much better
03:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> whatever he was, probably not a great leader
03:07 <DaylightSlavingTime> Within twelve weeks of Congolese independence in 1960, Lumumba's government was deposed in a coup during the Congo Crisis following his attempt to solicit support from the Soviet Union
03:24 <DaylightSlavingTime> whatever he was, probably not a great leader
04:00 <Marttinn> I think the european elites felt kind of exposed about the support they gave to ISIS and now they began low the speech against al assad regime
04:00 <happy-lil-camper> lame they have fire dancers and flame eaters at trance festivals now
04:12 <Marttinn> I think the european elites felt kind of exposed about the support they gave to ISIS and now they began low the speech against al assad regime
04:32 <happy-lil-camper> lame they have fire dancers and flame eaters at trance festivals now
05:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> he was only leader for three months
05:00 <Marttinn> Like it or not tigger, there was nothing more modern prior to 1960 than communism, still 40 years after being in power 
05:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> fire twirlers should all be shot
05:30 <DaylightSlavingTime> he was only leader for three months
05:36 <Marttinn> Like it or not tigger, there was nothing more modern prior to 1960 than communism, still 40 years after being in power
05:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> fire twirlers should all be shot
06:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> wouldn't fire twirlers just be at psytrance events?
06:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Marttinn, European colonialism is more modern than communism, and produces much better results for africans
06:00 <happy-lil-camper> no i just saw clips of them at armin's
06:13 <DaylightSlavingTime> wouldn't fire twirlers just be at psytrance events?
06:43 <DaylightSlavingTime> Marttinn, European colonialism is more modern than communism, and produces much better results for africans
07:00 <happy-lil-camper> it was inevitable though
07:08 <happy-lil-camper> no i just saw clips of them at armin's
08:00 <happy-lil-camper> every show has to be different and  bigger than the lasgt
08:01 <happy-lil-camper> it was inevitable though
08:18 <happy-lil-camper> every show has to be different and bigger than the lasgt
15:00 <AndroUser> Mate the pope is bullshit
15:00 <AndroUser> So much media hypocrisy
15:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> as the topic says
15:00 <AndroUser> Yea
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15:47 <AndroUser> Mate the pope is bullshit
15:54 <AndroUser> So much media hypocrisy
15:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> as the topic says
16:00 <AndroUser> Listen
16:00 <AndroUser> I cant take this bullshit anymore
16:00 <AndroUser> The pope mate
16:00 <AndroUser> So much BZ
16:00 <AndroUser> BS
16:03 <AndroUser> Yea
16:15 <AndroUser> Listen
16:25 <AndroUser> I cant take this bullshit anymore
16:34 <AndroUser> The pope mate
16:38 <AndroUser> So much BZ
16:45 <AndroUser> BS
17:00 <AndroUser> I am not impressed with this pope sex shit
17:00 <AndroUser> Like as if not use a conny
17:00 <AndroUser> Its bullshit mate
17:17 <AndroUser> I am not impressed with this pope sex shit
17:49 <AndroUser> Like as if not use a conny
18:00 <Marttinn> What you mean skip?
18:00 <AndroUser> U know how many ppl say 'yeah i was clean as of last August'
18:00 <Marttinn> Any link to what made you angry?
18:02 <AndroUser> Its bullshit mate
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18:38 <Marttinn> What you mean skip?
18:56 <AndroUser> U know how many ppl say 'yeah i was clean as of last August'
18:56 <Marttinn> Any link to what made you angry?
19:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> lol, this is deep gay subculture talk
19:00 <AndroUser> U know its not safe to play. Even with an ex bf
19:14 <DaylightSlavingTime> lol, this is deep gay subculture talk
19:50 <AndroUser> U know its not safe to play. Even with an ex bf
20:00 <AndroUser> Im not gonna put up with this shit
20:16 <AndroUser> Im not gonna put up with this shit
21:00 <AndroUser> Greeksnake is pissing me off he never wants to use connies anymore
21:29 <AndroUser> Greeksnake is pissing me off he never wants to use connies anymore
23:00 <AndroUser> Greeksnake and i had sex last night
24:00 <AndroUser> Terrible fuck
24:00 <AndroUser> Terrible root
24:11 <AndroUser> Greeksnake and i had sex last night
24:30 <AndroUser> Terrible fuck
24:48 <AndroUser> Terrible root
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> lol, over wine
25:00 <happy-lil-camper> Ukraine has launched a criminal probe into wine-tasting by Russian president Vladimir Putin and ex-Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi after they allegedly quaffed a $US100,000 bottle of centuries-old wine in Crimea, prosecutors said.
25:00 <AndroUser> Lol
25:00 <Marttinn> Id like to visit crimea now
25:12 <happy-lil-camper> lol, over wine
25:15 <happy-lil-camper> Ukraine has launched a criminal probe into wine-tasting by Russian president Vladimir Putin and ex-Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi after they allegedly quaffed a $US100,000 bottle of centuries-old wine in Crimea, prosecutors said.
25:26 <AndroUser> Lol
26:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> did they shoplift it?
26:00 <Marttinn> Must have very little tourist 
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> a polish woman asked me where crimea was about 2 weeks ago
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> ...
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> crimea st that is
26:00 <Marttinn> Weird
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> i was nice to her so she was nice to me back, even held my arm
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> older people are generally nicer
26:00 <Marttinn> Polish ancestors or migrant
26:00 <happy-lil-camper> migrant
26:03 <Marttinn> Id like to visit crimea now
26:12 <DaylightSlavingTime> did they shoplift it?
26:18 <Marttinn> Must have very little tourist
26:20 <happy-lil-camper> a polish woman asked me where crimea was about 2 weeks ago
26:23 <happy-lil-camper> ...
26:26 <happy-lil-camper> crimea st that is
26:41 <Marttinn> Weird
26:54 <happy-lil-camper> i was nice to her so she was nice to me back, even held my arm
27:00 <happy-lil-camper> older people are generally nicer
27:00 <happy-lil-camper> older white people are nicer
27:00 <happy-lil-camper> asians are hit and miss
27:00 <Marttinn> Yep, thats what ive heard about japan
27:00 <Marttinn> But asia is a whole world
27:00 <AndroUser> Xm i was drunk when i said i would ever hire u
27:00 <Marttinn> what about philipinos?
27:01 <Marttinn> Polish ancestors or migrant
27:05 <happy-lil-camper> migrant
27:18 <happy-lil-camper> older white people are nicer
27:22 <happy-lil-camper> asians are hit and miss
27:43 <Marttinn> Yep, thats what ive heard about japan
27:57 <Marttinn> But asia is a whole world
28:00 <AndroUser> I hate Philippino losers
28:00 <happy-lil-camper> today an old asian woman pushed in in front of me on the bus
28:00 <happy-lil-camper> lol skips
28:00 <happy-lil-camper> it made me think she must have thought she was back in China competing for rations of rice
28:00 <happy-lil-camper> ey Ethanol 
28:03 <AndroUser> Xm i was drunk when i said i would ever hire u
28:05 <Marttinn> what about philipinos?
28:15 <AndroUser> I hate Philippino losers
28:18 <happy-lil-camper> today an old asian woman pushed in in front of me on the bus
28:20 <happy-lil-camper> lol skips
28:38 <happy-lil-camper> it made me think she must have thought she was back in China competing for rations of rice
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28:54 <happy-lil-camper> ey Ethanol
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29:00 <happy-lil-camper> Marttinn: i had a japanese supervisor once that always acted like he was my servant
30:00 <Marttinn> An his age was?
30:00 <happy-lil-camper> i remember during a moment of madness i thought he was my father
30:00 <happy-lil-camper> about 50ish now
30:00 <Marttinn> Lol
30:00 <Marttinn> Ok, I guess thats young
30:00 <Marttinn> Anyone born after the bombs in japan is young
30:00 <happy-lil-camper> and they get super [powers from the radiation
30:02 <happy-lil-camper> Marttinn: i had a japanese supervisor once that always acted like he was my servant
30:18 <Marttinn> An his age was?
30:22 <happy-lil-camper> i remember during a moment of madness i thought he was my father
30:26 <happy-lil-camper> about 50ish now
30:27 <Marttinn> Lol
30:37 <Marttinn> Ok, I guess thats young
30:53 <Marttinn> Anyone born after the bombs in japan is young
31:00 <Marttinn> Lol
31:00 <happy-lil-camper> he could heat coffee with his heat ray vision
31:00 <Marttinn> I mean mentally, they arent as nationalist as the imperialist japanese before the defeat
31:10 <happy-lil-camper> and they get super [powers from the radiation
31:16 <Marttinn> Lol
31:25 <happy-lil-camper> he could heat coffee with his heat ray vision
32:00 <happy-lil-camper> he always stepped on lizards, saying that if you dont kill them while they are small they might grow big one day and attack your city
32:00 <Marttinn> Today I saw a giant african snail (on the internt)
32:03 <Marttinn> I mean mentally, they arent as nationalist as the imperialist japanese before the defeat
32:14 <happy-lil-camper> he always stepped on lizards, saying that if you dont kill them while they are small they might grow big one day and attack your city
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33:00 <happy-lil-camper> how large?
33:00 <happy-lil-camper> i always forget africa has beaches and penguins
33:02 <Marttinn> Today I saw a giant african snail (on the internt)
33:21 <happy-lil-camper> how large?
33:51 <happy-lil-camper> i always forget africa has beaches and penguins
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> i always think of the desert or wilderness
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> it is a weird thought to think of Africans on the beach in their naturl habitat
34:00 <Marttinn> I guess it was this www.google.es/search?q=caracol+gigante+africano&client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CAsQsARqFQoTCKbl44jdhcgCFcc12wodxVUPaQ
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> natural*
34:00 <happy-lil-camper> oh those
34:14 <happy-lil-camper> i always think of the desert or wilderness
34:33 <happy-lil-camper> it is a weird thought to think of Africans on the beach in their naturl habitat
34:39 <Marttinn> I guess it was this www.google.es/search?q=caracol+gigante+africano&client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CAsQsARqFQoTCKbl44jdhcgCFcc12wodxVUPaQ
34:40 <happy-lil-camper> natural*
34:59 <happy-lil-camper> oh those
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder what they feast on
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> my brother and i once rounded up literally hundreds of snails and then crushed them at the roots of a grape tree
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> that season we had a bumper season of grapes
35:00 <happy-lil-camper> bumper harvest*
35:18 <happy-lil-camper> i wonder what they feast on
35:55 <happy-lil-camper> my brother and i once rounded up literally hundreds of snails and then crushed them at the roots of a grape tree
36:00 <Marttinn> It would be interesting to know what % of black africns live. Within 25 km to the sea
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> i heard that in south africa there were originally not many people living there
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> like palestine i guess
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> bring in the superiors and then tehy come
36:00 <happy-lil-camper> i better close that page on snails before i vomit
36:00 <Marttinn> Lol
36:02 <happy-lil-camper> that season we had a bumper season of grapes
36:09 <happy-lil-camper> bumper harvest*
36:13 <Marttinn> It would be interesting to know what % of black africns live. Within 25 km to the sea
36:33 <happy-lil-camper> i heard that in south africa there were originally not many people living there
36:37 <happy-lil-camper> like palestine i guess
36:44 <happy-lil-camper> bring in the superiors and then tehy come
37:00 <Marttinn> You def sound paranoid xm
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> why?
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> snails are gross
37:00 <Marttinn> How far is the mental ward? Do you ask someone to drive you or go walking
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> lmao marttin
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> im OK right now
37:00 <happy-lil-camper> but thanks for asking
37:00 <Marttinn> Ok
37:05 <happy-lil-camper> i better close that page on snails before i vomit
37:10 <Marttinn> Lol
37:25 <Marttinn> You def sound paranoid xm
37:38 <happy-lil-camper> why?
37:41 <happy-lil-camper> snails are gross
37:43 <Marttinn> How far is the mental ward? Do you ask someone to drive you or go walking
37:49 <happy-lil-camper> lmao marttin
37:52 <happy-lil-camper> im OK right now
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> but thanks for asking
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> i should have a holiday really
38:00 <Marttinn> Ive recently discovered a friend of mine went to one of those sites too
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> mental wards?
38:00 <Marttinn> we were just 8 or 9 during school years in my class
38:00 <Marttinn> Yes
38:00 <happy-lil-camper> you do not have any friends!
38:00 <Marttinn> Hah not now
38:04 <Marttinn> Ok
38:18 <happy-lil-camper> i should have a holiday really
38:23 <Marttinn> Ive recently discovered a friend of mine went to one of those sites too
38:46 <happy-lil-camper> mental wards?
38:50 <Marttinn> we were just 8 or 9 during school years in my class
38:52 <Marttinn> Yes
38:53 <happy-lil-camper> you do not have any friends!
39:00 <Marttinn> Hah not now
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> did you find out what problem he has?
39:00 <Marttinn> Nop
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> probably depression from a girl
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> heaps of people are in from bad relationships
39:00 <Marttinn> but he has been out for a while, being very slim, and now he is a monster
39:00 <happy-lil-camper> or bad relationships that trigger painful memories of their parents' bad relationship
39:00 <Marttinn> Yeah, thats the case of the guy one year younger than me
39:13 <happy-lil-camper> did you find out what problem he has?
39:24 <Marttinn> Nop
39:33 <happy-lil-camper> probably depression from a girl
39:40 <happy-lil-camper> heaps of people are in from bad relationships
39:47 <Marttinn> but he has been out for a while, being very slim, and now he is a monster
39:58 <happy-lil-camper> or bad relationships that trigger painful memories of their parents' bad relationship
40:00 <happy-lil-camper> he needs the doctor workout video
40:00 <Marttinn> My 'friend' is more likely to be related with parents
40:00 <happy-lil-camper> ultimately it is about God, and parents are a substitute for that really
40:00 <happy-lil-camper> friends/family/career etc
40:10 <Marttinn> Yeah, thats the case of the guy one year younger than me
40:15 <happy-lil-camper> he needs the doctor workout video
40:38 <Marttinn> My 'friend' is more likely to be related with parents
40:59 <happy-lil-camper> ultimately it is about God, and parents are a substitute for that really
41:00 <Marttinn> What you mean by doctor workout video?
41:00 <happy-lil-camper> doctor is pretty fit now
41:00 <Marttinn> Aah, i didnt think of this doctor
41:00 <happy-lil-camper> by workout video i mean like him being an instructor in an aerobics video'
41:00 <happy-lil-camper> complete with tisk' dance music
41:00 <happy-lil-camper> maybe tisk as a backup dancer too
41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> <happy-lil-camper> i heard that in south africa there were originally not many people living there  <- it was only after about 200 years of white settlement in South Africa that they first encountered black africans
41:07 <happy-lil-camper> friends/family/career etc
41:21 <Marttinn> What you mean by doctor workout video?
41:29 <happy-lil-camper> doctor is pretty fit now
41:40 <Marttinn> Aah, i didnt think of this doctor
41:44 <happy-lil-camper> by workout video i mean like him being an instructor in an aerobics video'
41:50 <happy-lil-camper> complete with tisk' dance music
41:56 <happy-lil-camper> maybe tisk as a backup dancer too
42:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> imagine if aborigines were only first discovered now
42:00 <happy-lil-camper> prior to the industrial revolution was i wonder what the population was for the continents
42:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> <happy-lil-camper> i heard that in south africa there were originally not many people living there <- it was only after about 200 years of white settlement in South Africa that they first encountered black africans
42:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> imagine if aborigines were only first discovered now
42:50 <happy-lil-camper> prior to the industrial revolution was i wonder what the population was for the continents
43:00 <happy-lil-camper> im just guessing africans didnt really populate Africa well
43:00 <happy-lil-camper> it would be fairly sparse
43:00 <happy-lil-camper> they didnt have the infrastructure for high density of course
43:00 <Marttinn> You just mentioned desserts
43:20 <happy-lil-camper> im just guessing africans didnt really populate Africa well
43:35 <happy-lil-camper> it would be fairly sparse
43:56 <happy-lil-camper> they didnt have the infrastructure for high density of course
44:00 <Marttinn> Its not easy to move along them
44:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Africa's population prior to European exploration is estimated at about 40 million
44:00 <happy-lil-camper> yeah probably why the sahara is a genetic dividing line
44:05 <Marttinn> You just mentioned desserts
44:20 <Marttinn> Its not easy to move along them
44:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> Africa's population prior to European exploration is estimated at about 40 million
45:00 <happy-lil-camper> what are some of the causes of overpopulation?
45:00 <happy-lil-camper> what's that thing again ;; malthusean trap?
45:00 <happy-lil-camper> im coughing like mad my typing is spastic lately
45:01 <happy-lil-camper> yeah probably why the sahara is a genetic dividing line
45:25 <happy-lil-camper> what are some of the causes of overpopulation?
45:34 <happy-lil-camper> what's that thing again ;; malthusean trap?
46:01 <happy-lil-camper> im coughing like mad my typing is spastic lately
47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the Malthusian Trap is when advances in wealth and food production are immediately employed to sustain a bigger population, rather than increasing individual calorie intake or general wealth
47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it was England in about 1800 that was the first country to escape the Malthusian Trap
47:28 <DaylightSlavingTime> the Malthusian Trap is when advances in wealth and food production are immediately employed to sustain a bigger population, rather than increasing individual calorie intake or general wealth
47:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> it was England in about 1800 that was the first country to escape the Malthusian Trap
48:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Egypt is a great example of the Malthusian trap at work today
48:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> Egypt is a great example of the Malthusian trap at work today
49:00 <doctor> microsoft sent that ahmed kid a couple grand worth of technology
49:00 <doctor> apparently he didn't even make the clock himself; just took it out of an old clock and put it in a briefcase
49:00 <happy-lil-camper> rofl
49:37 <doctor> microsoft sent that ahmed kid a couple grand worth of technology
49:59 <doctor> apparently he didn't even make the clock himself; just took it out of an old clock and put it in a briefcase
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> how old was he?
50:00 <doctor> i don't know why he's getting so much praise, he didn't do shit and obviously made it to scare his school
50:00 <doctor> i dunno, 12 or something
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> 12 is old
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> i could probably make an electronic clock at 7
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> or younger
50:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> his dad put him up to it I think, he's a combination of black huckster and muslim firebrand
50:00 <happy-lil-camper> with instructions of course
50:06 <happy-lil-camper> rofl
50:15 <happy-lil-camper> how old was he?
50:27 <doctor> i don't know why he's getting so much praise, he didn't do shit and obviously made it to scare his school
50:35 <doctor> i dunno, 12 or something
50:40 <happy-lil-camper> 12 is old
50:50 <happy-lil-camper> i could probably make an electronic clock at 7
50:54 <happy-lil-camper> or younger
50:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> his dad put him up to it I think, he's a combination of black huckster and muslim firebrand
51:00 <happy-lil-camper> id like to see video of him
51:00 <doctor> This is a case of classic reverse racism. The media are lording him cause he's muslim while the police and teachers just took the situation for what it was
51:00 <happy-lil-camper> to get a assesssment of his naivity
51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the teachers were following official procedure
51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they had no option to do otherwise
51:00 <doctor> Yeah I saw it and it looked like nothing you could make with a simple soldering kit bought off the internet
51:02 <happy-lil-camper> with instructions of course
51:14 <happy-lil-camper> id like to see video of him
51:20 <doctor> This is a case of classic reverse racism. The media are lording him cause he's muslim while the police and teachers just took the situation for what it was
51:27 <happy-lil-camper> to get a assesssment of his naivity
51:40 <DaylightSlavingTime> the teachers were following official procedure
51:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> they had no option to do otherwise
51:55 <doctor> Yeah I saw it and it looked like nothing you could make with a simple soldering kit bought off the internet
52:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> from the looks of it he was reading The Indian Guide to Electronics
52:00 <happy-lil-camper> one day when everything is paperless, a white kid will go to jail for being a paper cut terrorist
52:31 <DaylightSlavingTime> from the looks of it he was reading The Indian Guide to Electronics
52:41 <happy-lil-camper> one day when everything is paperless, a white kid will go to jail for being a paper cut terrorist
53:00 <happy-lil-camper> yeah, if you know anything ab out electronics his work wasnt elegant
53:00 <happy-lil-camper> and now he's got free toys. i want that
53:00 <doctor> I don't care if his muslim, black, asian or white. The media are clearly giving him the benefit of doubt because he is muslim, which is racist in my opinion
53:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> he probably got a Raspberry Pi II
53:00 <happy-lil-camper> it would be funny if in 10 years time he becomes a real terrorist
53:18 <happy-lil-camper> yeah, if you know anything ab out electronics his work wasnt elegant
53:39 <happy-lil-camper> and now he's got free toys. i want that
53:52 <doctor> I don't care if his muslim, black, asian or white. The media are clearly giving him the benefit of doubt because he is muslim, which is racist in my opinion
53:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> he probably got a Raspberry Pi II
53:58 <happy-lil-camper> it would be funny if in 10 years time he becomes a real terrorist
54:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> no doctor, those who have privilege can not experience racism
54:00 <happy-lil-camper> i hate the family more because they clearly conspired
54:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the dad is such a con artist he regularly flies back to Sudan to run for president
54:34 <DaylightSlavingTime> no doctor, those who have privilege can not experience racism
54:45 <happy-lil-camper> i hate the family more because they clearly conspired
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> serious?
55:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes
55:00 <happy-lil-camper> so now he has raised his profile
55:07 <DaylightSlavingTime> the dad is such a con artist he regularly flies back to Sudan to run for president
55:19 <happy-lil-camper> serious?
55:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes
55:34 <happy-lil-camper> so now he has raised his profile
56:00 <doctor> I hope his parents are exposed, but I doubt it. Then the media will have to confront how naive it is
56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they will simply move to the next #blacklivesmatter sideshow
56:00 <happy-lil-camper> even if they get exposed, the masses will always forget about this
56:00 <happy-lil-camper> they will just remember the 'good bits'
56:21 <doctor> I hope his parents are exposed, but I doubt it. Then the media will have to confront how naive it is
56:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> they will simply move to the next #blacklivesmatter sideshow
56:54 <happy-lil-camper> even if they get exposed, the masses will always forget about this
57:00 <happy-lil-camper> just like how scientists write dishonest reports and articles to garner attention and then get caught out, but the validity of their studies still hve a stronghold because the public only remembers one thing
57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the exposure never gets as much coverage as the initial phony story
57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, that's very common
57:00 <happy-lil-camper> yes
57:00 <doctor> true
57:03 <happy-lil-camper> they will just remember the 'good bits'
57:51 <happy-lil-camper> just like how scientists write dishonest reports and articles to garner attention and then get caught out, but the validity of their studies still hve a stronghold because the public only remembers one thing
57:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> the exposure never gets as much coverage as the initial phony story
58:00 <happy-lil-camper> that's why i read not 1 but 2 news sources. news.com.au and the #dissident topic
58:00 <doctor> lol
58:00 <happy-lil-camper> it keeps me balanced
58:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, that's very common
58:06 <happy-lil-camper> yes
58:06 <doctor> true
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58:52 <happy-lil-camper> that's why i read not 1 but 2 news sources. news.com.au and the #dissident topic
59:00 <doctor> lol
59:00 <IvanTheBastard> fuck news.com.au
59:00 <IvanTheBastard> full of shit
59:00 <IvanTheBastard> i check it once a week but gosh they put some garbage on that
59:00 <happy-lil-camper> they arent even close to being 'right of centre' anymore
59:00 <happy-lil-camper> they spew out so much PC crap now
59:05 <happy-lil-camper> it keeps me balanced
59:15 <IvanTheBastard> fuck news.com.au
59:18 <IvanTheBastard> full of shit
59:32 <IvanTheBastard> i check it once a week but gosh they put some garbage on that
59:35 <happy-lil-camper> they arent even close to being 'right of centre' anymore
59:40 <happy-lil-camper> they spew out so much PC crap now
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