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02:55:08 <MrMobodies> Hello
02:55:42 <MrMobodies> I found something wonderful
02:56:10 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/pRP9gS4w/Gentoolivecd-LQXT.jpg
02:56:28 <MrMobodies> What do you think of this?
02:56:48 <MrMobodies> Gentoo exgent livecd lxqt.
03:12:15 <MrMobodies> No unpleasantness yet and I only just started it up.
03:19:51 <arch> sounds like a lot of.... HOOPLAAA
03:20:15 <arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yICai9wwRl4
03:20:15 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Spongebob HOOPLA! | 18s | Channel: Kwesi | 1,333,245 views | 2009-04-12 - 21:05:08 UTC
03:44:30 <steve30> i haven't used lxqt for a long time
03:44:44 <steve30> i used to use lxde but haven't used that for a long time either
04:32:46 <MrMobodies> I'll give lxde a go too
04:34:14 <MrMobodies> It's not ideal and I know nothing is perfect but I find anything else has got to be a lot better than being innudated by annoying distracting flashing things and things that interfere my viewing of things by obscuring it or covering it other.
04:34:20 <MrMobodies> going to install it now
04:34:44 <MrMobodies> Like Oracle 6.2 no disappointments apart from that one, doesn't seem compatible with many things other than it's own repository
04:36:01 * steve30 uses MATE nowadays
04:36:54 <MrMobodies> https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/images/image/eadb47cb-09b2-4ded-9073-40f1f7f51051/index.htm
04:36:55 <EEVBot> [url] (end of extended support) Oracle-Linux-6.10-2022.02.13-1 | docs.oracle.com
04:37:00 <MrMobodies> I was looking at MATE
04:37:37 <MrMobodies> I want to turn off, the fading toolbars (acivated on hover) and the fade/flash on inactive windows.
04:38:00 <MrMobodies> and any fading of contents/ text where I can't read contents from the inactive window
04:38:10 <MrMobodies> well clearly enough
04:59:06 * electrohead makes a random object on the lathe, simply to throw at arch
05:02:22 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/6qMp5X6n/image.png
05:02:41 <MrMobodies> Nice and EASY, I can see the information clearer without too many things in the way.
05:04:07 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/9MW24nnz/image.png
05:04:17 <MrMobodies> It's not often I find one without the dark mode.
05:04:42 <MrMobodies> I find the fonts so compact and clear to read, at a glance
05:05:07 <MrMobodies> and the scrollbar to take a rought estimate how far down
05:05:19 <arch> electrohead, https://old.reddit.com/r/wizardposting/comments/1f2ckc3/so_ive_been_pondering_orb_lately_and_suddenly_i/
05:05:19 <EEVBot> [url] Blocked | old.reddit.com
05:05:27 <MrMobodies> Damn, installation failed!
05:06:10 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/5tbTpFSN/image.png
05:06:24 <MrMobodies> I find something I really like, and can't get it to install.
05:06:29 * Ysjoelfir is happy
05:06:33 * Ysjoelfir has icecream :>
05:19:35 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Quit: Ex-Chat
05:19:36 <arch> Ysjoelfir, but do you have a goblin?
05:22:31 <Ysjoelfir> Nope, sorry. No goblins here. Just a wabbajack.
05:25:43 <MrMobodies> Maybe I could use the wabbajack to beat the Gnome for all the misery it's caused me.
05:35:38 <rust_collector> https://youtu.be/fKT8RI8v93k
05:35:38 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Slug Eating Pasta Time Lapse (With Doom Music) | 2m 40s | Channel: Nature's Fantastic | 1,148,221 views | 2024-09-26 - 18:30:21 UTC
05:46:31 <K> wat wat
06:32:13 <MrMobodies> Used rufus on a pen drive, don't work, dvdrom write, don't work
06:48:47 <MrMobodies> I think I found some answers
06:49:08 <MrMobodies> https://ubuntu-mate.community/u/mrtributehttps://ubuntu-mate.community/t/horrible-gtk3-gnome-ui-design-is-leaking-into-ubuntu-mate-applications-in-20-04/22028/2
06:49:08 <EEVBot> [url] Page Not Found - Ubuntu MATE Community | ubuntu-mate.community
06:50:13 <MrMobodies> It's the arrogant, overzealous GTK developers ideaology and fixed perception for their user base.
06:51:11 <MrMobodies> Joke: I don't like their EGO-"centric concepts" of what the user may want.
06:51:58 <MrMobodies> must ALL be OUR WAY or NO WAY.
06:53:56 <MrMobodies> "toolbars will be removed, they're outdated..." but I bet they'd got no probems with ramming a large unclosable one, a sticky/fixed element/widget in the user's face when it suits them."
08:23:20 <MrMobodies> Fedora LXQt, very bland but no annoyances with that.
08:23:29 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/PhhThVkH/image.png
08:28:08 <steve30> I made a nice setup some years back with ROX Filer and Fluxbox WM
08:28:25 <steve30> I also had a nice custom colour scheme for GTK2
08:30:13 <MrMobodies> okay
08:30:15 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/fwBpNCcH/Wayland.jpg
08:30:20 <MrMobodies> It has Wayland on it
08:31:08 <MrMobodies> on the other hand at least they it doesn't include that annoying fade/flash, distracting crap everywhere on it
08:33:30 <MrMobodies> it is nice that Fedora/LXQT made a real attempt to make something up to date (supported until 2029) without that rubbish that has crept into pretty much every other distro in some form or another
08:44:54 <MrMobodies> Next one Lubuntu with LXQT
10:12:04 <electrohead> arch: I don't get that?
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18:49:36 <K> hello drywall anchor collectors
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19:17:39 <K> holla Kuschelpony
19:17:50 <Kuschelpony> hello K
19:21:47 <steve30> o/
19:21:56 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
19:22:08 <Ysjoelfir> oi, steve30! you bike afficionado!
19:22:49 <Ysjoelfir> may i request your assistance, if you happen to know something about the shimano nexus 7 gear?
19:23:10 * steve30 googles
19:24:39 <steve30> i've never used hub gears before
19:24:47 <Ysjoelfir> aww, dang it
19:24:59 <Ysjoelfir> (you should, they are awesome)
19:52:37 <steve30> i need a new crank for my e-bike
19:52:42 <steve30> and I can't find one
19:52:54 <steve30> damn bike part availability :S
19:57:48 <K> oh mein got, it is full o' cranks! (in thick glaswegian accent)
20:54:08 <Ysjoelfir> XD
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21:44:18 <nightlight> Hello
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21:45:08 <watcher> 0/
21:51:14 <K> oy watch it
21:51:34 <K> doin nominal, watcher ?
21:52:06 <watcher> K: What means nominal?
21:53:06 <K> no ibumetin consumed, no warrants on your name
21:54:07 <watcher> K: I hope that I dont get the police kick in my door today.
21:55:53 <K> did they do so yesterday
21:55:55 <K> ?
21:56:40 <watcher> No no room on my side on the street to park there vechiles. all spots where used by contractors.
21:57:30 <K> a win win!
21:58:25 <watcher> To not yet my door kicked in and for the newbourg that are renovating the last 5 weeks yes. Not for my mental health
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22:03:03 <K> eh, was it something i said
22:10:55 <MrMobodies> OH NO
22:10:56 <MrMobodies> https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/vpn-ban-update-uk-households-34141063
22:10:56 <EEVBot> [url] VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate' - Birmingham Live | www.birminghammail.co.uk
22:11:28 <MrMobodies> I hope they don't block mine router.
22:11:46 <MrMobodies> I mean by connection, I need remote access from home when I am out.
22:12:47 <MrMobodies> Unless they mean live web page proxies.
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22:39:37 * electrohead gets out the vacuum
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23:11:50 <blastsnoop104892acb> Hey Kuschelpony
23:12:00 <Kuschelpony> yes, here
23:12:16 <Kuschelpony> no, have not yet made drawings
23:12:29 <blastsnoop104892acb> it's ok not that
23:12:58 <blastsnoop104892acb> I want to put something to you. I asked whether inductive AC displacement can be corrected post bridge. My understanding is it can't.
23:13:26 <blastsnoop104892acb> Which I think you confirmed. So consider this ...
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23:14:02 <blastsnoop104892acb> Inductive AC -> Capacitance -> AC/DC -> PFC Boost -> DC Bus -> Buck -> Storage
23:14:30 <blastsnoop104892acb> Here's my understanding
23:14:49 <blastsnoop104892acb> the capacitance counteracts the induction
23:14:56 <Kuschelpony> yes
23:15:19 <blastsnoop104892acb> The boost is counteracting distortion of the load
23:15:35 <blastsnoop104892acb> and also the displacement caused by the load not being resistive
23:16:17 <blastsnoop104892acb> while the load placed by the buck can be altered such as MPPT can be found
23:16:44 <Kuschelpony> 1th part yes, second part only under very unusual circumstances the load on the DC side causes noticeable displacement
23:16:52 <Kuschelpony> 3rd yes
23:17:29 <blastsnoop104892acb> So you are absolutely sure the PFC Boost can't be equivalent for the capacitance?
23:17:45 <blastsnoop104892acb> Not even a totem PFC which removes the bridge?
23:18:42 <Kuschelpony> a totempole pfc probably can do
23:19:13 <Kuschelpony> thats the equivalence to aclass D amplifier i mentioned
23:19:32 <blastsnoop104892acb> c/p from google...
23:19:33 <blastsnoop104892acb> Yes, a totem-pole PFC actively corrects for displacement power factor. In fact, it corrects for both components of total power factor: displacement (phase misalignment) and distortion (harmonics).
23:19:34 <blastsnoop104892acb> By using active high-frequency switching, it forces the incoming AC current to be in perfect phase alignment with the AC voltage, forcing the displacement power factor (
23:19:34 <blastsnoop104892acb> ) to near unity (≈ 1.0).
23:19:43 <Kuschelpony> yes
23:20:27 <Kuschelpony> and to appear as capacity it needs to control its input current to have a part that has a leading 90° phase angle and increases with frequency
23:21:04 <Kuschelpony> and to appear as negative inductivity it needs to control its input current to have a part that has a leading 90° phase angle and increases with the inverse of with frequency
23:23:33 <blastsnoop104892acb> So why wouldn't any old PFC boost do this, i.e post bridge?
23:24:36 <Kuschelpony> it can only do this part where input current is momentary in polarity with input voltage, not the part where input current is opposite polarity of input voltage
23:25:03 <Kuschelpony> correction: it can only do this part where input current is momentary in polarity with input voltage, not the part where input current is momentary opposite polarity of input voltage
23:26:16 <blastsnoop104892acb> This I understand, because of the diodes.
23:26:52 <blastsnoop104892acb> But for an inductive AC the phase is always going to be one way (not sure if leading, but one)?
23:26:54 <Kuschelpony> YES
23:27:59 <blastsnoop104892acb> Not sure if yes is for the last part.
23:28:09 <Kuschelpony> and somewhat said, the idea of synthesizing a capacitance or negative inductance works in a way, that you push a little bit of enegery out during a time when voltage is low and opposite, but get back a lot more enegery when voltage is high
23:28:28 <Kuschelpony> hmm i do not understand your second sentence right now
23:28:37 <Kuschelpony> my yes was refered to the diodes
23:30:43 <blastsnoop104892acb> So a PFC boost is phase correcting one way, raising the voltage appears as capacitance equivalent
23:31:10 <blastsnoop104892acb> and probably a buck will appear as inductive equivalent
23:32:50 <Kuschelpony> a PFC boost behind a rectifier can not do meaningful phase correction because it can not do the part where a little energy is fed back, but a full controlled bridge or perhaos a totem pole PFC can supply this current back unrestricted
23:33:15 <Kuschelpony> a PFC boost can perhaps do a bit of inductive or capactive correction but then with distorted current
23:34:46 <blastsnoop104892acb> indeed, so it's whether a totem pole PFC allows reverse flow? Not sure if they do.
23:35:23 <Kuschelpony> im not sure this moment, have to look up detais
23:42:09 <xstevia> Its hot today
23:42:43 <Kuschelpony> no, its toooo hot
23:45:09 <K> it is hawt indeed
23:45:33 <K> and my dumb ass decided having a hoodie will be ok
23:45:40 <K> it was not.
23:53:10 <blastsnoop104892acb> I found this excellent video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAIJY1xFIKQ
23:53:10 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Part 2, How Bidirectional Totem-Pole PFC Works | 5m 26s | Channel: Kristian Skorpen | 305 views | 2026-02-06 - 08:00:26 UTC
23:53:59 <blastsnoop104892acb> And yes, totem pole PFC allows energy to go back in
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