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02:03:12 <electrohead> !caffeine
02:03:12 * EEVBot shoves an energy drink up electrohead's ass
02:08:50 <rc_garage> .......satan
02:13:02 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds wasteful. just give me the can, I can find a nice stick that fits to swap
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02:42:33 <Kuschelpony> friendlywhinny
02:42:51 <Kuschelpony> question to these of you better in math and formal circuit design:
02:43:26 <Kuschelpony> Is there a filter circuit that acts as building block for a delay line, but using only resistors; capacitors and opamps, but no inductors as the LC ladder delay line? It must have a linearphase or constant group delay. But it must also have a monotonic rising step response, not like the simple opamp allpass filter
02:43:59 <Kuschelpony> perhaps avariant of low-q lowpass filters
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02:54:41 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: lmao
04:26:22 <Kuschelpony> https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/1778800890435-webp.371613/
04:43:05 <rc_garage> I agree with guy, you can not measure straight across like that
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06:25:15 <electrohead> how about on the diagnal?
09:08:22 <MrMobodies> Hello
10:02:23 <MrMobodies> Pub landlady asked me to look at this water fountain thing
10:02:24 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/J01PKdM0/IMG-20260529-210230-DRO.jpg
10:03:10 <MrMobodies> it's been sitting there for a year with no light or pump going and water in there was just black and it stunk
10:04:14 <MrMobodies> It was unplugged so plugged it into this RCD thing which didn't work as it tripped the mains
10:04:43 <MrMobodies> I thought the sludge might have overwhelmed the pump but obviously the seals have broke
10:05:19 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/BssMPLLy/IMG-20260529-210346-DRO.jpg
10:05:33 <MrMobodies> 8w thing with an output for the leds
10:06:02 <MrMobodies> unfortunately no datasheet to find out the voltage of the lights
10:08:09 <MrMobodies> I found another on Amazon that was also 8w 600 litres close to 500lires but low voltage so in expectation it won't just tripped out the breaker and will just rust away when the deals break
10:08:50 <MrMobodies> Anyway I pumped the water out using this stanley hand pump and there was all this sludge in there
10:09:09 <MrMobodies> I took it home for a jet wash and it was so filthy
10:09:55 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/zDV7jMmq/IMG-20260530-212944-DRO.jpg
10:10:02 <MrMobodies> nice and clean now
10:11:11 <MrMobodies> As it was so big and how filthy it could get I brought another pump
10:11:12 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/2SfxCS1w/IMG-20260602-155642-DRO.jpg
10:11:34 <MrMobodies> to purge the water every few weeks
10:12:12 <MrMobodies> and to help get rid of sludge, unfortunately that one don't pull water (outside) so works best in the water
10:12:45 <MrMobodies> that means I don't have to move that heavy thing out and mess about with the cables to clean it often
10:13:37 <MrMobodies> I put a waterproof box in the back to connect up the previous LED'S and put another waterproof led module in the reservour to discourage snails as one of them blocked a hole
10:14:12 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/Pq7prS6n/IMG-20260603-211518-DRO.jpg
10:14:30 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/qByh4XyQ/IMG-20260603-211815-DRO.jpg
10:14:53 <MrMobodies> Purge pump controlled by a Byron wirless socket.
10:15:34 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/bwCd36fc/IMG-20260603-211505-DRO.jpg
10:16:10 <MrMobodies> https://streamable.com/369mp4
10:16:10 <EEVBot> [url] Watch VID_20260603_211605 | Streamable | streamable.com
10:16:14 <MrMobodies> How does that look?
10:19:46 <MrMobodies> Seems to glisten nicely in the dark
10:20:10 <MrMobodies> https://streamable.com/nktye3
10:20:11 <EEVBot> [url] Watch VID_20260603_212124 | Streamable | streamable.com
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12:14:17 <Nothing\> yay, i can type with 2 hands and play WASD games again
12:14:54 <Nothing\> i can also sleep for short periods on my uninjured side again, which is sooooo nice after a month of sleeping on my back when I'm a side-sleeper
12:15:35 <Nothing\> somehow that wasn't so bad, though. Worse is having my room get up to 30c and having my arm and sling draped over me like a blanket
12:16:02 <flyback> BMCC
12:16:09 <Nothing\> do what now?
12:16:11 * flyback headbutts Nothing\
12:16:17 * Nothing\ heatbutts flyback
12:16:23 <Nothing\> MANPOWER!
12:16:40 <Nothing\> feel that testosterone
12:16:42 <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCk...............................CaNuck!"
12:16:44 <flyback> BMCC
12:16:52 <Nothing\> ah lol
12:17:14 <Nothing\> canuck almost sounds like an inuit word
12:17:28 <Nothing\> actually, Canada is a native word, come to think of it
12:17:31 <Nothing\> Kanata
12:18:12 <Nothing\> the story goes the explorers asked the natives what this place was called. The natives thought by "this place" they meant the settlement, which was Kanata.
12:18:38 <Nothing\> not sure how true it is, lots of stuff here is either named after native/inuit stuff, or stolen from the UK
12:18:55 <Nothing\> we even have a London Ontario
12:19:01 <Nothing\> complete with a River Thames
12:19:59 <Nothing\> cambridge, waterloo, windsor, Paris (not UK, but still), York, just off the top of my head in southern ontario
12:20:17 <Nothing\> lol you get to nunavut and the town names are so inuit i can't even begin to pronounce them
12:20:20 <Nothing\> all 5 of them
12:20:49 <Nothing\> apparently iqalluit's the only one that counts as an actual city
12:20:59 <Nothing\> Iqaluit
12:21:40 <Nothing\> kinda funny we give the natives the most uninhabitable piece of land in the whole country
12:22:00 <Nothing\> omg atrophy sucks
12:22:25 <Nothing\> my arm looks like i have anorexia there's nothing but bone
12:23:00 <Nothing\> i measured my bicep's width with calipers and it wasn't even 2in wide
12:23:59 <Nothing\> i dunno why i didn't expect atrophy but apparently it sets in incredibly fast
12:35:24 <rc_garage> MEEP MEEP!
12:39:30 <MrMobodies> I wouldn't know what to do if I lost the use of either of my hands.
13:12:39 <MrMobodies> Disappointed with HP 700-111na motherboard
13:15:17 <MrMobodies> Of course they don' tell you what version of PCI-E
13:15:32 <MrMobodies> https://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/hp/700-311_r1_lr_26933_06-26-14.pdf
13:15:55 <MrMobodies> It has a PCI-E V3 as expected as that came out after 2010.
13:16:45 <MrMobodies> but the other two PCI-E 1x slots are PCI-E V2, taking the piss...
13:16:56 <MrMobodies> oops three pci-e 1x slots
13:17:14 <MrMobodies> PCI-E V2 year 2007, and this HP Envy thing was released in 2014
13:17:31 <MrMobodies> with high end specs on it
13:17:35 <MrMobodies> Now isn't that bad?
13:19:30 <MrMobodies> I wanted to mount a PCI-e m.2 SSD on a PCI-E X1 riser but will only get below 5gbps on that.
13:30:38 <Nothing\> my shoulder feels like it's stuffed full of cotton
13:31:10 <Nothing\> so weird that nobody ever talks about these weird ass sensations you get from orthorpaedic surgeries
13:32:21 <Nothing\> you only ever hear about the pain. Not about the agony of your somatosensory system trying to make sense of all sorts of garbage data it's getting from a limb that as far as it knows, has been fucked up and disabled beyond repair
13:33:03 <Nothing\> and then when it realizes it's not beyond repair, it struggles to remap the injured area a
13:33:20 <Nothing\> kind of interesting stuff if
13:41:18 <Nothing\> sucks when i spend 30 minutes browsing steam and can't find anything to buy
13:41:40 <Nothing\> it's like TAKE MY MONEY "make me!"
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14:11:57 <MrMobodies> With steam, can I download a game (an old one) and it be mine for good, just like if I installed it from the cd?
14:12:09 <MrMobodies> I wouldn't mind that if is the case.
14:12:50 <MrMobodies> I want to buy some licenses, for Unrealtournament 1 (1999) so I can setup some LAN games at my local village pub for the children.
14:13:19 <MrMobodies> just to be on the legal side of things
14:14:36 <MrMobodies> DAMN!!!!
14:14:37 <MrMobodies> https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1g1d1jx/steam_just_added_a_warning_for_customers/
14:16:49 <MrMobodies> Joke: "You have a STEAM license for use with our online cloud service not a local perpetual license so you can only play it when we tell you you can play it relevant to it's DRM status."
14:18:00 <MrMobodies> https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1iz797t/i_didnt_realize_you_dont_actually_own_games_you/
14:18:04 <MrMobodies> Isn't that disgusting?
14:19:00 <MrMobodies> Pay for some old goods from Steam but they would'nt be able to just simply delist it of a cdrom copy 20 years ago.
14:22:10 <MrMobodies> I think it'd just be easier buying them off ebay... all I need is 5 copies.
14:22:11 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=unrealtournament+1999&_sacat=0&_from=R40&LH_ItemCondition=4&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1
14:22:11 <EEVBot> [url] Error Page | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
14:22:52 <MrMobodies> well, It'd be just a copy but those would be proof of license, if I am approached by a licensing officer which is pretty rare these days
14:25:14 <MrMobodies> I could get the adults to play for small prizes at the bar and beat them all in Morpheus.
14:25:19 <MrMobodies> that's a joke,
14:25:20 <MrMobodies> night
14:30:09 <Kuschelpony> i i never understood the hype for steam, that kind of DRM for a game renting model was there since the beginning AND SAID SO
14:31:12 <Kuschelpony> maybe their only contribution thatmake the hyped is that they centralised so many different subscription models (and points of friction) into one game renting shop that works more smooth
15:15:28 <Nothing\> hey Kuschelpony
15:15:31 <Nothing\> and MrMobodies
15:15:36 <Kuschelpony> yes
15:15:42 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, how goes it?
15:15:49 <Kuschelpony> very silent here
15:15:55 <Nothing\> same
15:16:18 <Nothing\> it's nice, you could hear a pin drop in my bedroom away from computer fan noises
15:16:57 <Nothing\> man, Kuschelpony
15:17:36 <Nothing\> i got this 8052 devboard on aliexpress. Less than $5, it's a steal. But I have no clue how to interface it with the computer
15:17:46 <Kuschelpony> i mant more in "not enough happening"
15:18:32 <Kuschelpony> hmm 8052 were the times when you burned your programs into an EPROM, the processor just did not have any way to "download" something
15:18:41 <Kuschelpony> (the 68HC11 did)
15:18:41 <Nothing\> windows made the donkdonk usb device sound but linux didn't seem to respond at all
15:19:00 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, well it's a newer variant
15:19:06 <Kuschelpony> ok
15:19:17 <Nothing\> so perhaps it's different. I assume it is.
15:20:12 <Nothing\> i hadn't realized that, though. I've played a lot with an 805X emulator for linux back in the day but I never physically did anything with it
15:20:51 <Nothing\> great program btw, easily the most detailed GUI I think I've ever seen
15:22:17 <Nothing\> heh i looked up the specs for my tamagotchi I found from when I was <10 years old. The CPU runs at 32.768khz
15:22:51 <Nothing\> which is fine, i mean it's an lcd matrix and very basic program
15:23:16 <Nothing\> just weird to see a device in the 90s that ran in the dozens of khz
15:26:28 <Kuschelpony> back in these years, they were programming still mostly in assembler, and they nowed what they did, so using resources efficiently was the norm
15:27:08 <Nothing\> that's why i should do, write something in emu8086
15:27:16 <Kuschelpony> thinkabout pocket calculators, they have 4-bit CPU doing BCD arithemtics, and run beyond 20 years on a a pair of AAA cells
15:29:52 <Nothing\> this actually has an SPI connector, which i happen to have a usb to SPI adapter
15:30:30 <Nothing\> hrm i should set up my pi and play with mcu8052
15:45:01 <Kuschelpony> im sorry i dont know anything about modern uc andthe stuff to develop software with them
15:45:36 <Kuschelpony> im more the one who recreates a 1950s TV
15:46:21 <Kuschelpony> (but tobe honest, i wish i could have a passion for electronics again at all)
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16:50:26 <nightlight> Hello
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18:06:44 <steve30> o/
18:21:31 <Kuschelpony> and hello steve
18:32:55 <K> hello peeps
18:39:12 <K> !coffee steve30
18:39:12 * EEVBot throws screaming hot coffee at steve30
18:56:10 * K swings his head-full-boogers from side to side
19:49:18 <steve30> Well, my Radio 4 switch off forum topic generated a lot of discussion and I haven't even replied yet
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21:24:35 <Nothing\> sweet, i can take my sling off without any real issues
21:25:02 <Nothing\> if not for my muscles being too weak to even support my arm's weight, I'd almost just take it off
21:25:23 <Nothing\> even just existing, they're constantly cramping and sore
21:25:54 <K> how long was the sling on?
21:26:03 <Nothing\> oh man and is my shoulder ever stiff but with that damned hook in it there's no freaking way i'm even going to try raising my arm over my head
21:26:22 <Nothing\> K, it's still supposed to be on for another 8 weeks the surgeon said on friday
21:26:30 <Nothing\> 12 weeks total
21:26:33 <Nothing\> BUT
21:27:06 <K> eeh, yeah, muscle is gone :/ time to hit the gym!
21:27:16 <Nothing\> then I get surgery to have the plate removed. Plates are usually meant to be removed, but you can usually get away with not taking the out afaik. My cousin's had one in his leg for like a decade.
21:27:34 <Nothing\> K, yeah apparently the majority of atrophy happens in the first 2 weeks
21:27:38 <Nothing\> who knew?
21:27:45 <Nothing\> i didn't even consider it
21:28:12 <K> but there is no choice, must be still to heal properly
21:28:32 <Nothing\> then i noticed when i had my sling off my arm looks like i have anorexia or like one of those starving ethiopeans. Nothing but bone and tendons.
21:28:57 <Nothing\> yeah there is no choice, which humans generally don't like
21:29:45 <Nothing\> if there are two things i've found that fundamentally scare humans it's loss of control and the unknown. And even the loss of control is tied to the unknown. So, ultimately it's the unknown that scares us the most.
21:30:19 <Nothing\> speaking as a guy who has neurotically self examined his own anxiety issues for two and a half decades
21:30:41 <Nothing\> but yeah, it's actually healing a lot faster than i expected
21:30:49 <Nothing\> and there's been almost no pain at all
21:31:45 <Nothing\> besides the week while i was waiting for surgery and it was broken and popping up through (but not all the way through) my shoulder i took absolutely nothing for pain control
21:32:21 <Nothing\> and even then, I took what's basically like aspirin or naproxen, an NSAID, but it's super strong, so it ranks up there with a low dose of morphine for pain control
21:32:57 <Nothing\> onnly problem is with NSAIDs, the strength of them is also tied directly to how badly they screw up your stomach and clotting ability
21:33:21 <Nothing\> also, apparently aspirin is ototoxic (toxic to the ears) in high doses
21:33:28 <Nothing\> who knew?
21:34:28 <Nothing\> i remember reading an anecdote by a teenager who tried to overdose on aspirin and he said the ringing in his ears was "Cool" because it sounded like a video game lol
21:34:44 <Nothing\> hope he gets used to it, cuz it's all he's gonna be hearing for the rest of his life
21:35:18 <Nothing\> and funnily enough, ketamine is toxic to your bladder
21:35:38 <Nothing\> it's common for chronic abusers of ketamine to literally piss blood as their bladder is being destroyed
21:35:47 * Nothing\ shudders
21:36:09 <Nothing\> funny to think matthew perry was probably pissing blood on the regular
21:36:43 <Nothing\> now then, let's see if i can get this dang 8052 devboard interfacing with my computer
21:36:56 <Nothing\> nice of them to distribute a devboard with ZERO documentation
21:38:35 <Nothing\> K, here's the x-ray after the surgery: https://i.ibb.co/JjRHVjZC/20260601-112103.jpg
21:38:57 <Nothing\> lol count the staples. Then try to figure out how the hell they crimped the ends, cuz I couldn't haha.
21:39:27 <K> huh, to my eyes it looks like ther is a chunk missing
21:40:06 <Nothing\> yeah i can't tell where the other piece of it is, either. apparently i broke it really far out, hence having to use a hook plate instead of a normal plate.
21:40:09 <K> I count 33 staples
21:40:17 <Nothing\> and you can see that damn hook going into my shoulder
21:40:26 <Nothing\> K, gj it is 33
21:40:29 <Nothing\> lol i kept them
21:40:47 <Nothing\> totally gonna ask if i can keep the plate but i feel like that's a biohazard
21:41:06 <Nothing\> maybe if i bring my own jar of formaldehyde
21:41:16 <K> im not a car mechanic, but this looks like something i would call "a bodge"
21:41:58 <Nothing\> hah it is pretty much doing what they can with what little bone they have on the distal (furthest) end
21:42:10 * steve30 needs coffee
21:42:23 <K> bbut you alread had one, steve30
21:42:42 <Nothing\> K, if you look closely you can sorta make out the top edge of the second piece. They don't meet up flush the way you would expect
21:42:58 <K> hmm, yeah
21:43:41 <Nothing\> i always pictured it like if you broke a piece of ceramic and the two pieces fit perfectly together. But, it's not solid all the way through, so it broke kinda "sideways" with a "ledge" sticking out
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21:44:24 <Nothing\> apparently the inside of a collar bone is rather hollow, like a bird bone. Lots of criss-crossing bits of bone, but mostly hollow.
21:46:33 <Nothing\> heh i was thinking if your collarbone is the equivalent to the wishbone in birds, i should have made a wish when i broke it. Unfortunately my wish didn't come true.
21:46:48 <Nothing\> which is that my collarbone (collar bone?) wasn't broken
21:46:58 <Nothing\> i feel like i've been misspelling it
21:48:27 <Nothing\> It's funny though, when I saw the staples on the X-ray, my mind immediately thought "inductor" and I asked the doctor what that coiled piece of wire was before realizing it was the staples. lol
21:48:55 <Nothing\> oh actually, K
21:49:04 <Nothing\> really really weird thing about that picture
21:50:05 <Nothing\> if you look down from where the plate is, there's this weird square thing apparently in my chest with what looks like a flex cable coming off of it going down out of frame
21:50:49 <Nothing\> i dunno if it's some part of the machine or what but it doesn't seem it would do well to have an x-ray with parts that show up on every radiograph you take
21:51:07 <Nothing\> nor am i familiar with being implanted with anything
21:52:01 <Nothing\> besides the very real sneaking suspicion that aliens take me on a regular basis
21:52:19 <Nothing\> it's just so weird
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23:27:52 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEfqJ_1bCKc
23:27:53 <EEVBot> [YouTube] How to write Cat font alphabet | 3m 41s | Channel: 書道家 東宮たくみ | 398,517 views | 2026-05-02 - 04:08:44 UTC
23:28:17 <steve30> Guess how I'm writing Halcyon's Christmas card this year :)
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