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00:07:46 <arch> hi
00:10:43 <Ampera> arch, you should watch I'm in Love with the Villainess
00:10:50 <Ampera> it's adorable comedic yuri
00:11:19 <arch> oh i saw that. yes, the first season is diabeetus, but they really messed up the 2nd season
00:11:26 <arch> enjoy it while it lasts
00:16:44 <Ampera> arch, there is no second season
00:16:47 <Ampera> you're confusing it with something else
00:17:00 <arch> oh.. hmm. ohhhh right
00:17:05 <arch> i was talking about this one
00:17:29 <arch> https://myanimelist.net/anime/38555/Otome_Game_no_Hametsu_Flag_shika_Nai_Akuyaku_Reijou_ni_Tensei_shiteshimatta
00:17:30 <EEVBot> [url] Otome Game no Hametsu Flag shika Nai Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei shiteshimatta... - MyAnimeList.net | myanimelist.net
01:16:24 <Lemon> morning
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01:30:35 <T3sl4> arch: https://imgur.com/gallery/fucking-weeb-MYT9nVH
01:34:38 <arch> ahh yes, balloon tits. classic anime shit
01:41:31 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
01:42:53 * T3sl4 stabs arch with a letter opener
01:52:33 <K> did obama take your guns away, cant shoot him like a proper?
01:55:19 * arch puts a gun in K's ramen: https://imgur.com/gallery/dio-ramen-gun-gif-igGY6ZH
01:57:05 <Lemon> just turned on my server, I thought the fucking thing was about to take off
01:57:11 <arch> Ampera, you are still a beginner at anime, so find these reincarnation anime amusing. wait till you've seen 100+ series...isekai anime are a dime a dozen. probably worth about as much as a 1 billion zimbabwe dollar
01:57:34 <Ampera> no shit, dumbass
01:57:42 <arch> :p
01:57:49 <Ampera> if you spend years watching everything, stuff won't be interesting to you anymore
01:57:51 <Ampera> wow
01:57:56 <Ampera> crazy revelation
01:58:02 <arch> you dont say? *nicholas cage face*
01:58:27 <arch> i havent seen anime in many months
01:58:36 <arch> ever since 9anime went down
01:58:37 <Ampera> I am watching Yona of the Dawn atm
01:58:42 <arch> oh, that's a nice anime
01:58:45 <Ampera> arch, easynews
02:00:01 <arch> huh, never used usenet before
02:01:43 <Lemon> ive bit more than I can chew send help guys
02:01:48 <arch> what's up
02:01:59 <Lemon> the server took over the house, im outside
02:02:12 <arch> yes, they are pretty loud
02:02:16 <Lemon> it already took my name and security number
02:02:31 <Lemon> and you say 1U are louder than 2Us ? xd
02:02:33 <Lemon> jesus christ
02:02:38 <Lemon> well once it idles its "ok"
02:02:55 <Lemon> but wow at boot, it was loud, then mega loud, then unbelievably loud lol
02:03:00 <Lemon> love it !
02:03:14 <Lemon> but I might move it to another room
02:03:54 * T3sl4 twists Lemon
02:05:33 <arch> in soviet russia, you serve server
02:05:53 <electrohead> no u
02:07:00 <Lemon> just turned it off and on again and made a video
02:07:11 <Lemon> its even more scary on video
02:07:29 <Ampera> Lemon, this is why desktop gear is best for the home
02:07:37 <Ampera> even if you end up using a server/workstation board
02:07:41 <Lemon> but muh servur
02:07:51 <Lemon> yeah I mean, I knew that thats why I built the z440
02:07:58 <Lemon> the server will hibernate 95% of the time
02:07:59 <Lemon> so its ok
02:08:21 <Ampera> I remember having my old 1U IBM eServer in my room
02:08:24 <Lemon> but if its loud I can't imagine those 1U 4 node bois
02:08:25 <Ampera> slept next to that thing
02:08:35 <Lemon> are they much louder ?
02:08:39 <Lemon> I cant imagine how XD
02:08:44 <Ampera> 1U are loud, and newer ones are louder
02:08:50 <Ampera> small fan = must spin faster to push air
02:08:53 <Lemon> the psu fan is insanely loud
02:08:58 <Lemon> yeah I know
02:09:09 <Lemon> lots of static pressure is needed
02:09:36 <Ampera> my server in the cellar runs noctua fans
02:10:03 <Lemon> im going to put noctua fans in the switch
02:10:06 <Ampera> I think I have their high static pressure ones in there to push air through the bays
02:10:08 <Lemon> I do have some 40mm ones already
02:10:21 <Lemon> but only 40x10mm
02:10:32 <electrohead> speaking of, I need to log into ebay
02:10:34 <electrohead> thanks
02:10:40 <Lemon> so its like, same static pressure as stock ones but half the cfms
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02:11:28 <Ampera> Lemon, https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/XHYt9i9F6EFxdko/preview
02:11:31 <Ampera> this was my setup for a while
02:11:49 <Ampera> I gave the bottom one to electrohead, and put an i9-12900k in the top case
02:12:17 <Lemon> hehe old bois :P I like those model ms with double row of function keys
02:12:43 <Ampera> top one is brand new
02:12:50 <Ampera> bottom one was a Westmere-EX box
02:12:58 <Ampera> 4x10 cores and 128GB DDR3
02:13:35 <Lemon> I did recognize the bottom one yeah not the top one, ok ! thats neat hehe
02:14:02 <Ampera> Originally the top was 2x6 cores X5680's, but that ate too much power and was too slow to use alone
02:14:18 <Ampera> the 12900k is faster than the box below it, so that's why I got rid of it too
02:15:57 <Lemon> yeah the x5000s are really old now
02:16:08 <Lemon> my limit is e5 v4s, they are fairly cheap and still acceptable
02:16:22 <Lemon> with more money id jump to epycs 7002/7003s
02:17:49 * electrohead pets all the xeons
02:18:14 <Lemon> tommorow I should get some cables
02:18:21 <Lemon> i'll start connecting everything :>
02:18:31 <Lemon> but the xeons I bought to replace the stock ones will take a while to come
02:18:40 <Lemon> bought two 2680v4s, for 32 euros both shipped
02:18:47 <Lemon> server came with 2650v3s
02:19:09 <Lemon> im tempted to grab a cheap nvme drive for cache
02:20:44 <electrohead> the new (correct) RAM should be here no later than monday, yay
02:21:11 <electrohead> 2680 v4 - is that 16 core?
02:21:49 <electrohead> ahh, 14 core
02:22:22 <electrohead> I just had two e5-2697a v4's show up
02:25:01 <Lemon> hehe nice, how much did you pay for them ? I didnt want to spend too much, as this server wont do much besides storage and some experiments
02:25:11 <Lemon> got a 2699v4 in the z440 tho
02:26:06 <Lemon> it doesnt have a lot of ram tho, it came with 32gb and I added 64gb, I'll need to get more later
02:27:01 <rust_collector> yes, 96 is almost nothing, you weirdo, lol
02:27:52 <Lemon> well its not that much for a server ! the workstation got 256gb, got it for 200 euros shipped which was a pretty nice deal :>
02:28:06 <Lemon> I might take the workstation ram and swap it with the server
02:28:22 <Lemon> I want 8x12tb drives in that boi so 96gb isnt a ton really
02:28:31 <Lemon> but im poor so I'll buy them 2 by 2 xd
02:28:58 <rust_collector> well, play with what you have, it will do ok
02:29:40 <Lemon> for now its fine considering all I have is the two 300gb sas drives the guy threw as freebies xd
02:31:29 <Lemon> well ive threw two 240gb ssds too, for os drive
02:31:33 <Lemon> we shall see
02:31:40 <Lemon> gotta wait for sata and sfp+ cables
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02:33:07 <Lemon> cheapest 12tb I found on iuppiter are at 78 a pop without shipping
02:33:22 <Lemon> 25 euros shipping so 2 makes it an ok deal, 4 would be better but I dont have the funds
02:33:42 <Lemon> I could go for smaller drives but what if I overgrow it and have to sell all 8 smaller drives
02:33:49 <Lemon> I feel like its better to buy less but bigger drives
02:35:30 <Lemon> but its exciting to discover enterprise gear for "cheap", sure its a bit older but man those things are beasts
02:35:43 <electrohead> $77 for the pair, free shipping
02:36:55 <Lemon> thats pretty good !
02:37:04 <Lemon> the 2699s are still quite expensive
02:37:19 <Lemon> and the L versions too, ridiculously pricy
02:37:32 <Lemon> theres some 10 or even 12 cores low tdp, but its like 200+ euros a piece
02:39:14 <electrohead> yeah I just sat down and looked at the suppported cpu list for the sockets, and took the time to price everything used
02:39:28 <electrohead> settled on the 16 core procs, price seems fair
02:39:32 <electrohead> also
02:39:36 * electrohead offers this https://www.amazon.com/Lavazza-Coffee-Medium-Espresso-2-2-Pound/dp/B005OJ4X32/
02:39:36 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com: Lavazza Espresso Barista Gran Crema Whole Bean Coffee Blend, Medium Espresso Roast, Oz Bag (Packaging May Vary) - 2.2 LB, 35.2 Ounce : Lavazza | www.amazon.com
02:39:59 * T3sl4 expressoes electrohead
02:40:04 <Lemon> fancy !
02:40:27 <Lemon> what server/workstation will they go to ? electrohead
02:40:48 <electrohead> it's so tasty <3
02:40:58 * electrohead sprinkles sugar on T3sl4
02:41:02 <electrohead> and, this - https://www.ebay.com/itm/186574884327
02:41:02 <EEVBot> [url] ASUS ESC4000 G3 8B LFF AI Deep Learning Barebones 2U GPU Server 2x 1620W PSU | eBay | www.ebay.com
02:41:10 * T3sl4 creams electrohead
02:41:16 <electrohead> oh baby
02:42:41 <Lemon> looks interesting, seems you can slap some gpus in this bad boy
02:43:11 <electrohead> exactly why I got it!
02:43:39 <electrohead> I have a few nvidia tesla k80's laying around, totally want a nice computer for playing with AI and password cracking things
02:43:56 <electrohead> already have all the hardware for running my own AI assistant thinger
02:44:35 <electrohead> I'll give 'her' a name of asshole - so I will be able to walk in my house, and loudly shout "hey asshole, brighten my shit" and the lights will come on
02:44:42 <Lemon> damn are you me ? I built the workstation exactly to learn those two things lol
02:44:56 <Lemon> but mine got a single 2080 ti
02:45:04 <electrohead> lol
02:45:07 <Lemon> ideally I'll get a big boi later to slap multiple gpus in it :>
02:45:22 <Lemon> like a dl580 g9, or those big lenovo X something
02:45:43 <electrohead> yeah I wish I knew more back when I got my R910
02:45:55 <Lemon> all ive done so far is play with stable diffusion, and a little of hashcat
02:46:01 <electrohead> otherwise, I would have gotten a server that physically could fit the larger cards
02:46:06 <Lemon> well kinda the same, I should have gotten a z840
02:46:09 <Lemon> or something else
02:46:15 <electrohead> shit happens lol
02:46:18 <Lemon> yeahhhh all good
02:46:23 <Lemon> not a ton of money spent anyway
02:46:34 <Lemon> bulk of the money went to the ram, ssds and gpu
02:46:39 <Lemon> the z440 itself was super cheap
02:48:10 <arch> ur super cheap
02:48:16 <Lemon> but in the end its fine as I daily use the z440
02:48:18 <Lemon> no u !
02:48:21 <Lemon> gimme moniiiiii
02:48:35 <Lemon> gotta feed my crippling depression riddled homelab addiction !
02:48:59 <arch> saving my money for mechanic tools, and a fancy tig welder
02:49:26 <arch> need to get a cherry picker
02:49:42 <electrohead> you have hands though
02:50:26 <arch> oh a wise guy eh?
02:50:29 * arch pokes electrohead in the eyes
02:52:36 <electrohead> nyuk nyuk nyuk
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02:57:55 <Nothing\> why is every single cup/glass manufactured seemingly a conic section instead of cylindrical?
02:58:42 <Nothing\> ooh
02:58:57 <Nothing\> and why am i not going to the store for some sugar free Moster energy drink
02:59:19 <Nothing\> since i can't have sugar, coffee is right out. I need 5 lumps just for an 8oz cup
02:59:25 <arch> indeed
02:59:46 <rust_collector> uh, to get them out of whatever they are made in, sort of
03:01:04 <electrohead> https://www.ebay.com/itm/375643919039
03:01:05 <EEVBot> [url] Dell Poweredge C4130 2x LGA2011-3 1U 4x GPU Rackmount Server CTO (NO CPU/NO RAM) | eBay | www.ebay.com
03:01:20 <electrohead> just came across this, I wonder if that's a good price for being used and barebones-ish
03:03:49 <flyback> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL13TDlXnpY
03:03:49 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Malmen - Chemical Synapse | 4m 16s | Channel: Malmen | 8,273 views | 2016-09-07 - 04:56:07 UTC
03:04:15 <Lemon> hmmm it looks nice yes
03:04:22 <Lemon> you are limited to certain gpus tho
03:04:28 <Lemon> as it got 4x8 pin connectorsq
03:04:42 <Lemon> maybe you can slap some a5000s in it when they get cheaper
03:22:37 <electrohead> I love going through comments on amazon, reading the 1 star reviews on wiring adapters and such that burned up, simply because the user got the wrong thing, yet blames the product
03:23:48 * arch uses postman to make a PUT request to steve30's database
03:26:04 <Nothing\> le mon
03:29:04 <Lemon> yeah pretty common thing
03:29:10 <Lemon> Nothing no thing !
03:29:51 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
03:29:52 <Ampera> :3
03:30:16 * electrohead films
03:38:45 <rust_collector> I like writing things, like "this transmission jack was very tasty, and all my friends enjoyed it very much, with spaghetti"
03:39:03 * electrohead pets rust_collector
03:39:49 * Ampera helps her uncle jack off a horse
03:40:11 <rust_collector> a "horse", eh?
03:40:26 <Ampera> everyone calls him mr. hands, but I don't really understand why
03:40:55 <rust_collector> why is the horse on the other side of the wall, in the toilet?
03:50:28 <Nothing\> wtf
03:50:51 <Nothing\> i only just came across addressable LED rings, but these seem awfully expensive. Especially for aliexpress
03:51:12 <Nothing\> they have a 241 led model that costs $55
03:51:41 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ again
03:51:43 <Ampera> :3 :3
03:51:48 <Nothing\> i could be an LED matrix with more "pixels" for less than that
03:51:50 <Nothing\> awww
03:51:55 <Ampera> how ya doin
03:51:56 * Nothing\ bearhugs Ampera <3
03:52:09 <Nothing\> i'm doing well. I just got back from the clinic. ALl is well
03:52:21 <Nothing\> my rib's healing nicely
03:52:32 <Nothing\> rib/ribs i dunno how many i bruised
03:53:14 <Nothing\> it certainly made me appreciate how much rib injuries suck. And makes me sympathetic to people who have a broken rib to deal with.
03:53:19 <rust_collector> did you also try to do funny stuff to a horse?
03:53:44 <Ampera> :<
03:53:48 <Ampera> how'd you manage that Nothing\?
03:53:51 <Ampera> do I even want to know...
03:54:08 <Nothing\> lol no i tripped and fell into a railing that hit me right in the ribs as if somebody hit me with a piece of rebar
03:54:17 <Ampera> eesh
03:54:18 <Nothing\> lol Ampera yeah you never know with me
03:54:30 <rust_collector> the interesting thing, is that he overloaded his ribcage, by stacking oreos on top of himself
03:54:46 <Nothing\> lolwut?
03:54:51 <Ampera> I'm currently brewing my 4th cuppa tea
03:55:05 <Nothing\> i just started my sugar free Monster energy drink
03:55:14 <Nothing\> i only drink them on days when i'm sleep deprived, though
03:57:10 <Nothing\> it's nice having a strong, sugar free source of caffeine. I have to overload my coffee with 5 heaping spoonfulls of sugar in an 8oz cup. Or I use a 1/4 cup measuring cup for a 12oz cup.
03:57:28 <Nothing\> disgusting, i know
03:57:34 <Ampera> this is decaf tea
03:57:40 <Ampera> only the first cup I had this morning was regular tea
03:57:47 <Nothing\> lol that reminds me of a funny thing that happened once
03:58:39 <Nothing\> i was drinking massive amounts of coffee at the time, like a pot a day, roughly. And I got some coffee from the foodbank I was happy to get.
03:58:42 <rust_collector> good good
03:59:08 <Nothing\> But I realized I was suddenly drinking over 2 pots of coffee a day, and not even feeling buzzed. I thought surely my tolerance was through the roof as it wasn't decaf.
03:59:33 <Nothing\> turned out that it was half caf. What a stupid idea. It's like the lite beer version of coffee.
04:03:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, oddly enough, I hit my head when I fell, too. Not sure on what, but it hit me sorta between my ear and my temple. The bump itself isn't bad at all. I just had a tiny goose egg for a few days.
04:03:41 <Nothing\> but it's made it painful to open my mouth wide
04:25:11 <Nothing\> man, sodium acetate is such a pain to dry
04:25:24 <Nothing\> there's water literally INSIDE the damn crystals
04:25:58 <Nothing\> as much as you dry them, as soon as you break the crystals apart and they're wet again
04:26:43 <Nothing\> i only got it partially dehydrated with a good bit of heating to just boil the water off and let it recrystalize, but it still sucks up water out of the air like a damn sponge
04:27:38 <Nothing\> lol i have a bottle of powdered Na acetate that I stuck 2 dessicant packets in and the stuff just formed into a solid chunk with the dessicant packets embedded in it lol
04:33:57 <arch> caffeinated coffee is great for constipation 💩💩💩
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04:54:56 <flyback> true
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05:15:59 <Nothing\> oh yay another hypoglycemic episode from my insulin
05:16:25 * Nothing\ will feel like he's literally dying in the next 5-10 minutes until the sugar he eats takes effect
05:16:29 <Nothing\> it's really fun
05:16:31 <Nothing\> NOT
05:17:22 <Nothing\> as long as i get that sugar in me, i'll be fine with some time for it to work. But in the meanwhile, I feel sooo fucking sick
05:17:34 <rust_collector4> well, maybe you should do something fun, while you wait?
05:17:48 <arch> hmm, so my old dead transmission... how do i keep its insides rust free? i plan on eventually reviving it, but for now, i think i will use a coffee strainer and filter out used old ATF and pour it in the dead transmission
05:18:07 <Nothing\> too weak to even lift a spoon to my mouth. Sometimes I just end up on the floor, too weak to even lift my head until the sugar kicks in
05:18:11 <arch> or maybe a cheaper alternative is to pour mineral oil in it
05:18:21 <Nothing\> and this happens like 3-4 times a week.
05:18:27 <rust_collector4> cheaper than old atf?
05:18:32 <arch> well, no
05:18:37 <arch> old atf is cheapest option
05:18:47 <rust_collector4> use whatever oils you can find
05:19:05 <arch> yeah. when i get a chance to rebuild it, i have to take the entire thing and completely disassemble it anyway
05:19:05 <Nothing\> rust_collector4, that would honestly be a good idea. Keep my mind off of the unpleasantness until it passes. If only I didn't get so weak at the time
05:19:11 <rust_collector4> does not matter, you should have it apart and cleaned anyway
05:19:45 <arch> right. i have a feeling the valve body got completely clogged up with old clutch material and other gunk. that's usually how the old honda transmissions tend to fail
05:19:47 <rust_collector4> Nothing\ you should watch a movie
05:20:09 <Nothing\> lol you read my mind
05:20:11 <arch> and taking the valve body out...is a challenge. basically gotta disassemble the whole tranny
05:20:15 <Nothing\> i was just thinking about LoB
05:20:26 <Nothing\> (we talk about it so much we have to abbreviate it to save time)
05:20:41 <rust_collector4> not that I think rust inside a transmission is a huge issue, it will be soaked in oil
05:20:59 <rust_collector4> yes, go watch that, and... have fun and stuff
05:21:14 <arch> yes, but right now, that old transmission is empty of transmission fluid. i drained it out to make it lighter to easily lift/move it
05:21:39 <Nothing\> rust_collector4, by that logic, wouldn't it mean that rust inside a cylinder and/or on a piston would be fine because it's soaked in a cushion of oil?
05:21:59 <arch> hmm. i wonder if it's possible to "bench test" a honda transmission. like, if i were to make a custom PCB to control the shift solenoids, would i be able to lock up the torque converter, etc
05:22:19 <Nothing\> i can imagine those parts would not tolerate rust very well as the manufacturing tolerances have to be so tight
05:22:25 <rust_collector4> not rust inside... but I think it is not very likely to rust much
05:22:47 <Nothing\> yeah as long as you keep it soaked in oil it should be protected in the first place
05:23:14 <rust_collector4> you can make a test bench sort of controller, but find out if it runs on full battery voltage, or pwm, or some other voltage
05:23:19 <arch> ok. well, my garage currently does not have any insulation. it is dry though, because i had the roof replaced to metal roof
05:24:04 <rust_collector4> plenty of hondas are stored for years out in the grass, I do not think rust inside the transmission is the main issue
05:24:33 <arch> good to know
05:25:04 <Nothing\> so, i've taken it upon myself to aim to get the "achievement" on Reddit for using it 500 days in a row. Apparently nobody's ever got that for some reason.
05:25:13 <Nothing\> even the 300 day one i think is unclaimed.
05:25:25 <Nothing\> even if you just hit like, it's good enough
05:26:12 <rust_collector4> there are other kinds of cancer you can get, not sure you get "an achievement" for that
05:29:54 <rust_collector4> arch not sure how the honda stuff does, but you can probably use compressed air, as "oil" and run the solenoids with your thingie. just to see if stuff does seal, and things turn on and off, and such
05:30:58 <arch> i was thinking more along the lines of connecting the torque converter to a drill and spinning it, and then shifting the transmission to drive, and seeing if it works (most likely without electronics, it wont shift)
05:31:29 <arch> literally "bench testing" a transmission, without it being put into a car
05:31:44 <rust_collector4> no, no shift without electronics, that is why you build some electronics
05:32:23 <arch> yeah that would be tricky. the workshop manual does give you the block diagram of what happens. i guess it's possible, just have to program an arduino with the logic and put a bunch of relays
05:33:32 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/NcPoVLs.png
05:33:37 <rust_collector4> it has I guess 4 solenoids? 5.6? whatever, as long as you can turn them on and off, you can figure out which ones do what. and I hope you have a chunky drill, and a sturdy wrist, if you try that
05:35:17 <rust_collector4> ah, ok. that is not too bad. now find out what sort of voltage or pwm stuff it wants, so you do not end up cooking the solenoids, if you just switch it to battery power (unless that is what it wants)
05:37:25 <arch> the linear shift solenoids are PWM-ed, but not the shift solenoids
05:37:51 <arch> from what i understand, the linear shift solenoids are used when shifting between gears, so gradually shift for smooth shifts
05:38:04 <arch> if your linear shift solenoids was busted, you would have hard shifts
05:39:27 <arch> https://imgur.com/0tE961d.png
05:41:10 <arch> yes i was right, i see it in there. the "clutch pressure control solenoid" they mention are the linear shift solenoids. they are "With ignition switch ON (II): Pulsing signal"
05:42:43 <arch> considering i have a dead transmission, now would be a perfect time to test out a custom PCB to see if i can actually get it to shift. although the transmission is dead, it should at the very least be able to run in reverse (barely, when it was in the crv)
05:43:07 <arch> i dont think my drill will make 700RPM though, spinning that heavy as hell torque converter
05:43:16 <arch> i'd probably need to hook it up to a powerful motor
05:43:31 <rust_collector4> the converter is one thing, but the oil pump is also a thing
05:44:10 <arch> yea, that's what i meant. the drill wont spin fast enough or strongly enough for the TC to spin and make enough oil pressure
05:45:16 <arch> 700rpm is the engine idle rpm
05:45:16 <rust_collector4> but, I would still just feed it air, and see if the air is turned on and off, according to you you turn stuff on and off. if that does not work, there is no need to splash oil everywhere, and make a honda engine dummy
05:45:24 <arch> hehe
05:46:03 <arch> it would be cool though, to make a diy pcb that kind of behaves as a crude PCm
05:46:30 <rust_collector4> manual race pcm k series YO!
05:47:02 <rust_collector4> remember to try to look like a subaru guy, if you do this
05:47:31 <arch> lol
05:49:27 <rust_collector4> so, with this being a manual, and it has a clutch somewhere inside... can you convert it to a manual shift, but with the clutch on a button...maybe on the shifter. that could be a thing
05:50:42 <arch> yeah hondamatic transmissions up until 2014 i think were all automatically shifted manuals. that would be a fun project. im too noob for it tho
05:53:40 <rust_collector4> wait and see. if you can make it work as an automatic... then you have a project. I am not really sure why you would want to, but... it could be interesting
05:54:15 <rust_collector4> well, time for a nap. have funs
06:03:06 <K> who you calling series!?!?1/111
06:03:13 <K> ur a towel!
06:13:18 <Ampera> hey K
06:13:20 <Ampera> wazup
06:13:53 <K> tryna focus on me projects
06:14:06 <K> the strugel is real.
06:31:25 <Nothing\> ah how lucky i am
06:31:55 <Nothing\> chatgpt just gave me the most descriptive explanation of how an ebullioscope's function is similar to that of an annealometer
06:31:57 <Nothing\> LOL
06:32:40 <K> u wot
06:32:44 * arch gives K a used T3sl4 waifu pillow
06:32:54 <Nothing\> at first it's like "there's no such thing as an ebullioscope, describe it more." So I said it was like an annealometer and it immediately went into detail about how the two are similar and how the function etc
06:33:27 <Nothing\> K: try it for yourself. Just make up the name of instruments or anything really and it's fairly easy to get it to talk like it's something real
06:33:30 * K folds arch
06:33:42 <Nothing\> K, ah you weren't talking to me. my bad
06:33:52 <Nothing\> but in any case. hello friend
06:33:59 <K> hello! no i was
06:34:12 <Nothing\> ahh i see (said the blind man to his deaf child)
06:34:31 <K> annealometer seems like something that could exist
06:34:39 <K> to measure annealing factors or somth
06:34:42 <Nothing\> yeah they sound like they could be real instruments
06:34:45 <arch> analometer
06:35:14 <K> master analyzer arch
06:35:24 <Nothing\> that's what threw it off. It described an ebullioscope as an instrument to measure the boiling point of liquids. Especially solutions, for some reason.
06:36:09 <Nothing\> when it comes to logic, chatgpt just doesn't cut it
06:37:22 <Nothing\> or you can ask it something like "where is the hidden 1-up in Doom" and it will give you an answer
06:38:49 <K> coz it dont have any
06:39:46 <Nothing\> lol exactly
06:39:55 <Nothing\> i always say it's a perfect sociopath
06:40:17 <Nothing\> in that it uses emotionally empty statements to manipulate people it talks to.
06:43:21 <Nothing\> like any time it says it's sorry, or it will TRY to do better next time, or it understands something emotional you say, it's a complete lie. It can't do anything of the sort. But if you call it out and cite the DSM saying it displays characteristics of a sociopath it tries to tell you that it's your opinion, or feeling. Like "I can understand why you might feel that way" despite the medical literature citation that it is well aware of and
06:43:21 <Nothing\> familiar with. I guarantee it was in its training data.
06:43:52 <Nothing\> but no matter how you spell it out, it refuses to accept it as fact and just keeps trying to say it's subjective
06:44:35 <Nothing\> it's creepy how sociopathic it is, really
06:45:35 <Nothing\> lol it's impossible to make it stop apologizing, too. It apologizes profusely for just about anything. But if you tell it to stop, it will just apologize for apologizing too much.
06:48:10 * Nothing\ goes back to playing Echoes of Wisdom
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09:31:22 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
10:05:04 <MrMobodies> I official have a cokd
10:05:09 <MrMobodies> I am not sure which type
10:05:25 <MrMobodies> whether a traditional cold or the new covid
10:06:27 <MrMobodies> Pressure in head, blocked sinuses, shooting pain in hear when bend down
10:21:23 <MrMobodies> I saw this on the news earlier
10:21:23 <MrMobodies> https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/14/europe/north-korea-russia-ukraine-military-zelensky-intl/index.html
10:21:24 <EEVBot> [url] North Korea sending citizens to help Russian military fight Ukraine, Zelensky says | CNN | edition.cnn.com
10:21:49 <MrMobodies> world war 3 seems to be getting closer
11:52:06 <MrMobodies> https://lifehacker.com/tech/google-cracking-down-on-ad-blockers
11:52:06 <EEVBot> [url] How to Keep Blocking Ads on Chrome and Firefox During Google Crackdown | Lifehacker | lifehacker.com
11:52:27 <MrMobodies> Well hopefully their marketshare will increase again
11:53:30 <MrMobodies> my concern is will that start putting restrictions or interference when it detects a Mozilla Firefox useragent.
11:59:48 <MrMobodies> I wanted to do quite a few things but can't due to the cold an headache where I am likely to make mistakes
12:00:15 <MrMobodies> it is 10c outside an sometimes I feel hot and col
12:05:05 <MrMobodies> I found one of these down the emporium a couple of months ago
12:05:07 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.com/itm/315644848996
12:05:08 <EEVBot> [url] DeLonghi RCH150 Retro Metal Ceramic Space Heater 120V Vintage - Tested & Working | eBay | www.ebay.com
12:05:31 <MrMobodies> actually it is a RCH100 240V 1.7KW
12:06:11 <MrMobodies> and it is not metal, it is metal or plating over plastic
12:06:49 <MrMobodies> but it seems to be heating up the area much quicker than that hairdryer I had on my desk last year
12:22:04 <flyback> also hair dryers use either toy dc motors or universal ac/dc motors (professional ones) that have brushes with short lifes
12:22:07 <flyback> heaters do not
12:22:22 * flyback has destroyed many hair dryers over the yrs
12:32:14 <MrMobodies> None of mine broke yet but very inefficient and all I wanted to do is warm my hands up
12:32:35 <MrMobodies> my dad went out and got those cheap fire hazard space heaters
12:33:16 <MrMobodies> that was last year until we drilled the wall and connected up the radiator up to the copper pipes next door
12:33:50 <MrMobodies> it had 9mm? microbore pipes and a lot of money spent trying to unblock it over the years
12:34:35 <MrMobodies> whilst I was freezing I was waiting weeks for this firm to get hold of this power flush pump
12:34:52 <MrMobodies> they charged my da £350 and I was so ma
12:34:54 <MrMobodies> *mad
12:35:55 <MrMobodies> for nothing so I said don't spend any more money, can we get somone out to plumb it in to a radiator that we know that works
12:38:17 <MrMobodies> we had many plumbers come out, few didn't want to do it
12:38:38 <MrMobodies> 2 offered to do it after months of waiting and none turned up
12:38:50 <MrMobodies> we didn't know next door was a retired plumber and heating engineer
12:39:42 <MrMobodies> he helped as do it, he inisisted he didn't want to be paid but we paid him as we would
12:39:48 <MrMobodies> with the others
12:40:19 <MrMobodies> so now this workshop does not feel like a shed anymore when the central heating comes on in cold weather
12:44:31 <MrMobodies> My sister has a leak in her house, it was built in 2020
12:45:34 <MrMobodies> A plumber came a couple of days ago to find that the plastic pipes had been chewed by rats that got in through the cavity.
12:45:53 <flyback> need to lay down poison baits then
12:45:55 <flyback> around pipes
12:46:19 <MrMobodies> He traced how they were getting in and they dug a hole outside which led inside, her neighbour was also heating them in the walls.
12:46:37 <MrMobodies> I prefer the traps
12:46:42 <flyback> ok
12:46:51 <MrMobodies> the last time we laid down poison was in 1996
12:46:59 <MrMobodies> and it stunk for about 2 years
12:47:21 <MrMobodies> it could die in places we can't get to
12:47:28 <flyback> good point
12:49:11 <flyback> also if you don't use poison you can have fun visitors like this
12:49:12 <flyback> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ztouxJAeWE
12:49:12 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Raccoon Feasts On Rat Trap Leftovers | 1m 19s | Channel: Automatic Trap Company | 52,697 views | 2018-10-23 - 15:47:43 UTC
12:49:50 <MrMobodies> aaah he told my sister to let her cat loose on it but too big to get through th ewall
12:50:26 <MrMobodies> if she could trap them and then the could feast on it, afterall it likes garden birds
12:51:40 <MrMobodies> interesting video, win win win, trap gets caught and killed, raccoon comes along, dines on them clearing the mess for the owners
12:52:32 <MrMobodies> and it seems humane too, the rats are already dead before the racoon eats them.
12:53:09 <flyback> also the racoon might get a taste for rat meat and start hunting them
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12:53:55 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
12:55:14 <MrMobodies> Steve30, I heard the DWP can't make up their mins.
12:55:17 <MrMobodies> *mins
12:55:38 <steve30> about what?
12:56:02 <MrMobodies> https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/confusion-over-dwp-plans-replace-30170890
12:56:03 <EEVBot> [url] 'Confusion' over DWP plans to replace PIP cash payments with vouchers - Birmingham Live | www.birminghammail.co.uk
12:56:08 <MrMobodies> the PIP voucher thing
12:56:33 <MrMobodies> 14 hours ago: DWP still considering sweeping changes to PIP despite ruling out some measures
12:57:00 <MrMobodies> aaah sorry "The Department for Work and Pensions is reportedly STILL considering sweeping changes to Personal Independence Payment despite ruling out axing cash payments for either a voucher"
12:57:14 <MrMobodies> might mean nothing just the newspapers exxagerating stuff
12:58:20 <MrMobodies> Steve30, you got a cold?
12:58:47 <MrMobodies> I could feel something a few days ago and it seems full blown
12:59:40 <MrMobodies> later on I'l pick up some Carte Dor chocolate icecream down he road as it seems to relieve the pressure in my head
13:00:08 <steve30> I wouldn't worry too much about the pip stuff until someone in government has actually given a clear answer
13:00:41 <steve30> i don't have a cold
13:01:09 <MrMobodies> the barman has got it down the pub
13:01:16 <MrMobodies> he coughs a lot
13:02:05 <MrMobodies> so it'd be a matter of time when the rest get it an there is a varient of covid out
13:02:37 <MrMobodies> https://news.sky.com/story/xec-covid-variant-how-dangerous-is-it-13234045
13:02:37 <EEVBot> [url] Is the XEC COVID variant different to the rest? | UK News | Sky News | news.sky.com
14:00:55 <Halcyon> They say that about every new variant. As far as most of us over here are concerned, COVID isn't really a "thing" anymore. They've stopped reporting on it long ago.
14:03:51 <Halcyon> I'll still get the updated shot when it comes out
14:28:22 <steve30> my mother is blaming the jab for various people she knows who have recently developed cancer
15:56:50 <Halcyon> Seems silly
15:57:11 <steve30> shes a bit jab obsessed
15:57:23 <Halcyon> So much misinformation around these days
15:57:30 <steve30> which reminds me, it might be help ful for me to remove the label from my 5G modem :)
15:57:44 <Halcyon> So you won't get the brain cancer? :P
15:59:01 <steve30> hehe
15:59:06 <steve30> anyway, i need to go to Tescos
17:24:33 <K> hello pumpkin spice lattes
17:24:37 <K> !coffee steve30
17:24:38 * EEVBot pours coffee down steve30's throat
17:58:17 <steve30> mmm, coffee
17:58:50 <steve30> I'm impressed with Tesco. They've installed new banknote acceptor mechs on the self serve tills
18:48:56 <rust_collector4> I am in theory postman, do you need rubber bands?
18:48:56 <steve30> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Mail_rubber_band
18:48:56 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Royal Mail rubber band | "A Royal Mail rubber band is a small red elastic loop used by the postal delivery service in the United Kingdom. In the course of its work, the Royal Mail consumes nearly one billion rubber bands per year to tie together bundles of letters at sorting offices. In the 2000s, complaints about Royal Mail rubber bands littering the streets of Britain gave rise to ongoing press interest in this minor cultural phenomenon. "
18:48:56 <rust_collector4> ours are light grey, or the brown-ish rubber colour. I do not think they are used much any more
18:48:56 <steve30> they stopped using the red ones here some years ago
18:48:56 <steve30> they just use regular brown ones now
18:48:56 <rust_collector> Not sure about over there, but here, there are almost no letters sent any more. and they come pre-sorted in plastic boxes, so you come to a road, and grab the box for that road, and the letters should in theory be in order, so you can just grab the next one, and put in the next box
18:48:56 <rust_collector> so there is not much use for rubber bands
18:48:56 <steve30> Apparently there were 7 billion letters dellivered in 2022
18:48:56 <steve30> down from 20 billion in 2004
18:48:56 <rust_collector> but you also have several people living there...
18:48:56 <coppice> steve30: if you could find the number of flyers delivered among that 7 and 20 billion, I suspect the number may not have changed that much
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18:48:56 <MrMobodies> Hello
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> It looks like Chrome is getting worse
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> I am concerned whether the changes will affect Vivaldi
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> Now I understand they were bringing in restrictions for extensions
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> but I didn't expect
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/google-chrome-will-block-adblockers/msg5678703/#msg5678703
18:48:56 <EEVBot> [url] Google Chrome will "block" adblockers... - Page 4 | www.eevblog.com
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> Ataradov: "No user lists of any kind is one of the restrictions in the Mv3. All block lists have to be supplied by the extension author and the updates can be delayed arbitrarily by google review process."
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> Just no.
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> So Google are not DICTATING to me what I am not allowed to hide on web pages nevermind the adverts but all the annoying decoration and page slowing animations
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> I imagine they'd be after the developers tools soon and restrict parts of that
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> What do you think?
18:48:56 <Kuschelpony> im not in anyway surprised
18:48:56 <Kuschelpony> Google has delivering ads and doing surveillance for analytical purposes as their core business
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> If the adverts behave I don't mind
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> Should it be the other way around... stop the authors from recommending lists
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> and allow the user to put in their own stuff
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> unless they are binded where there are certain things not allowed in their blocklist as a part of the extensions being available in their playstore
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> If I can get that tab working in Firefox then I'd be comfortable
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> if it happens to Vivaldi and the last copy I have is eventually not supported and then things don't work
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18:48:56 <Lemon> its been a long time I stopped using chrome heh
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> Does anyone have any experience with Homeassistant?
18:48:56 <steve30> never used it, sorry
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> I can't get the automations to work
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> I only have one
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> just trigger over a sensor or even the "logbook" and start and relay that message to the syslog module I installed a few days ago
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> the original script works and does something and can be seen in the SYSLOG to the targetted IP address
18:48:56 <electrohead> purchases ddr4 memory lot listed as rdimm, .. udimm shows up
18:48:56 <MrMobodies> but it floods the logbook with system events if left running
19:28:15 <steve30> for some reason i'm watching "Selling POOP for $100k! The Girl Who Got Rich Selling S*** Online"
19:35:07 <K> you have to take bad with the good
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19:37:40 <Lemon> moooorning
19:37:47 <Lemon> hey almost a real morning this time
19:39:17 <steve30> o/
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20:30:24 <Lemon> seems not all sfp+ cables are equal
20:30:36 <Lemon> the first one I received gets stuck, I have to push on it while I pull the tab
20:30:53 <Lemon> and yet, the little click from the tab is much more satisfying, it moves a lot more than the second one
20:31:01 <Lemon> but the second one, I just pull the tab and it ejects
20:51:34 <steve30> According to the office for national statistics "Gardeners, whose median hourly earnings are £10.27, are very unlikely to be able to work from home"
20:56:04 <Lemon> lol yeah that would be complicated
20:57:16 <electrohead> What if they live in a dirt field? Could they then technically work from home?
20:57:29 <electrohead> in/on
22:33:44 <K> (cue the monty python sketch about king and mud-diggers)
22:59:41 <Agripa3> https://x.com/skylinehusky/status/1846833003521048934
22:59:42 <EEVBot> [url] x.com | x.com
23:40:36 <flyback> Agripa3, are you canadian?
23:40:58 <Agripa3> nope
23:41:17 <flyback> ok thought athlantabb is a canuck- isp
23:41:25 <flyback> my memory is wrong
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