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11:56 <arch> did i spend $250 on a smoke machine? ... yes... could have gone cheap and gotten the $75 one, but no adjustable pressure or flow rates or gauges
12:44 <Ampera> why did you buy a smoke machine
13:12 <arch> crapton of vacuum leaks on ye olde' crv in addition to the valve cover
13:36 <K> arch is about to blow smoke up some ass, obvs
13:45 <K> at artisanal scale
13:47 <rust_collector> smoke machines are pretty useful
14:18 <arch> you know, it probably would have been cheaper to replace all vacuum hoses and pipes. but with a smoke machine, i can diagnose other vehicles. i figure i could make a pretty decent money taking away business from scummy mechanics
14:51 <arch> which, btw, $175+/hr over here. fuck that
14:58 <rust_collector> well, you still will replace all the hoses and pipes, so...
15:10 <K> heh, he will literaly will blow smoke up car asses, at artisnal scales
15:17 <arch> true, but i mean it will be useful for other cars as well as mine
15:23 <rust_collector> sure
15:37 <arch> this is the one i got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2XTLZWY
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16:17 <rust_collector> I do not remember what model I got, i wonder if it was a 300
16:30 <rust_collector> as long as it has a flow meter, it will do
17:11 <arch> yeah i wanted the flow meter ones cuz the cheap or dumb ones just put the highest pressure they can, while the evap system, you want to be careful and not go over 2 or 3 psi
17:43 <rust_collector> hmm?
19:00 <arch> you dont wanna damage the evap system valves and sensors and such, which are sensitive
19:17 <rust_collector> yes, and what does that have to do with a flow meter?
19:44 <arch> i was referring to adjusting the pressure
19:55 <arch> or monitoring the pressure
20:39 <K> din din-din-din - DIN DIN
20:48 <K> (under pressure sounds)
20:58 <arch> lol
21:31 <arch> K, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAto-f-WYAM1YZ0.jpg
45:07 <K> mhhhh
45:08 <arch> man, electric impact tools are a godsend
46:06 <arch> son of a bitch mechanics charge ridiculous rates for labor, but it's not like the old days where you didn't have the fancy impact tools unless you were a big shop
46:19 <arch> with impacts, shit comes out easy
46:45 <rust_collector> I like my little electric ratchet a lot
47:17 <arch> ive got both the atomic series impact ratchet, and the bigass one. cost a pretty penny, but paid for itself already
47:26 <rust_collector> for impact stuff... meh, I will stay on air power
47:36 <arch> it's too noisy
47:41 <arch> i favor the electrics
47:52 <rust_collector> ok, you do that
48:14 <arch> \o/
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51:22 <arch> ahh, nothing to ruin a workday more than 4 hours of meetings lined up
53:39 <rust_collector> next week, I will be having a... uh... 5 days in school. it is a massive waste of time. we have to do this every 5 years. you could select the useful bits, and compress this into probably 5-6 hours. but the requirement is 40 hours, so they have to spend as much time as possible, on nothing
57:30 <arch> public school education was on the decline before i graduated hs in 2011. i cant imagine how much worse it's gotten now, with all the propaganda shit they're feeding kids these days
57:53 <arch> not to mention AI and chatgpt being around so the slackers are even worse now
07:09 <arch> Ampera, i cried when nishiki lost his sister. fucking tragic story
07:41 <Ampera> arch, those must have been some extremely manly tears
07:44 <Ampera> I'm proud of you, buddy
09:56 <arch> that cinematic was chilling. how he killed his underling (well, technically he was the unofficial "boss"), but my man nishiki had enough of being a weak person
10:15 <arch> and the way he swooshed his hair back for the villain look
10:22 <arch> *chef's kiss*
11:02 <Ampera> they broke our booooy
11:06 <Ampera> they broke him q.q
11:43 <arch> yeah, that shit was fucked up. the doctor was a fake and ran off with the 30 mil, after him sacrificing his dignity to save his sister
17:19 <Lemon> hello buds
17:48 <rust_collector> yep
18:20 <Ampera> Lemon!
18:23 * Ampera squeezes
18:34 <Ampera> arch, I watched Violet Evergarden
18:36 <Ampera> I really enjoyed it
20:23 <arch> dont remember what it was about, something about a girl with prosthetic hand. dropped it after 3 episodes, was too slow
22:37 <Ampera> arch, you should pick it back up
22:49 <Ampera> it really isn't slow, it's so beautiful and emotionally intense
22:58 <Ampera> it made me cry lol
23:12 <Ampera> it's seriously one of the better things I've seen, but maybe you wouldn't like it as much
23:14 <Ampera> it's not very shonen
24:13 <arch> i dont only watch shonen anime lol. if an anime does not hook me within 3 episodes, i drop it. simple as that.
24:31 <arch> life's too short to wait 12 episodes in to see if that anime improves
24:44 <flyback> which one is shonen
24:55 <Ampera> flyback, the one for young men/boys
25:01 <flyback> ah
25:11 <Ampera> tends to be very actiony and ridiculous, but it's also kinda a very common genre that everything gets lumped in
25:24 <flyback> yeah I probably fit into that one
25:33 <Ampera> stuff like gundam, fist of the north star, gurren lagann
25:42 <arch> flyback, basically if you are a fan of action media (most Arnold Schwarzenegger movies, Sylvester Stallone movies, etc), that's what shonen anime is, but with more power of friendship
25:53 <flyback> fist of the north star was nice, the cklips I watched
26:11 <Ampera> What it really reffers to is where manga was published. Manga tends to get released in magazines or places that target a specific audience
26:19 <flyback> I liked uh I forget his name now
26:26 <arch> kenshiro?
26:30 <Ampera> so it gets skewed by marketing, and it's not like all shonen is primarily for and consumed by young men
26:30 <flyback> was a giant man
26:36 <flyback> went around killing rapists etc
26:45 <Ampera> kenshiro
26:54 <flyback> no not fist of the north star
27:04 <Ampera> oh
27:15 <flyback> damn memory bug I can't remember the name
27:28 <flyback> was very violent, sick and I don't recommend it
27:31 <rust_collector> but was it a giant man, or was he just in asia?
27:36 <flyback> but it was nice to see scum die horribly
28:11 <Ampera> I think I tend to like more emotional and fantasy driven stuff, things with big character arcs and relationships.
28:11 <flyback> espocally this one (null) rapist was cause in the act and was like "wait, this is not what it looks like " *slice* *head rolls downhill*
28:15 <flyback> very satisifying
28:33 <flyback> I like action, supernatural stuff like my dreams since I was 5
28:33 <Ampera> I also think I sort of have a theme of people being abandoned, or feeling lost, or feeling like they're flawed or disgusting in some way.
28:41 <flyback> no perverted or hentai stuff
28:46 <Ampera> stuff that focuses on people like that tends to hold a special place in my heart.
29:02 <arch> you'll like Black Lagoon. it's got some of that.
29:08 <flyback> I saw it
29:09 <flyback> loved it
29:14 <arch> \o/
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29:47 <flyback> espically when the boat took out a helicopter
30:19 <Ampera> flyback, https://myanimelist.net/animelist/Ampera?status=7&order=4&order2=0 these are my favorites if you're curious for some reason
30:20 <EEVBot> [url] Ampera's Anime List - MyAnimeList.net | myanimelist.net
30:54 <flyback> I skipped magical index as soon as they put in that lolicon shit
31:29 <flyback> saw first season of psycho pass but don't think I will continue it
31:32 <flyback> because it never ends
31:36 <flyback> it's endless bullshit
32:20 <flyback> eww evangelon
32:24 <flyback> I want those hrs of my life back
32:49 <flyback> just finished ego proxy this year
32:52 <flyback> that was really good
33:25 <arch> loli garbage and pandering to sickos kills anime popularity
33:44 <flyback> yeah really
33:44 <arch> i say they need to put more milfs, that's the real good stuff
33:50 <flyback> hehe
34:00 <arch> big bazooka women
34:24 <flyback> I don't like mildly pervert like some guy walks into a female dressing room, they don't really show anything and gets his ass kicked
34:42 <flyback> like totally accident
34:54 <flyback> but that's about it
35:22 <flyback> jojo would be insteresting if it wasn't gross and racist
35:24 <Ampera> flyback, I love/hate index/railgun. It's a really solid show, and I honestly don't think it gets too perverted, but it's still dumb when it does.
35:45 <arch> how the hell is Jojo racist? they literally had a black guy become a mayor in the 1960s or whatever
35:50 <Ampera> I couldn't get on with ergo proxy, but I think I just wasn't on the right wavelength for it.
36:04 <flyback> arch when they were in india and were using pigs as toilets
36:11 <Ampera> also idc if evangelion is basic or stupid, I love it
36:25 <arch> lmfao. have you seen the ganges? what they showed in Jojo with the pigsty, that was cleaner than the ganges
36:30 <Ampera> the art and the vibe are just *mwah*, chef's kiss
36:57 <arch> my friend, i'll tell ya right now, i've been to india. it's dirty as hell. same for bangladesh and pakistan.
37:15 <Ampera> you've also been to da bronx
37:21 <arch> exactly, same shit
37:29 <flyback> I liked bartender, resrtaurant to another world, and another restaurant in japan that has a back door to another world
37:36 <flyback> bartender was clever
38:06 <arch> i liked bartender. second season really shipped the mc and the girl
38:16 <flyback> guy serves up this stressed out foreman in charge of bar remodling a drink watered down with ice and water
38:32 <flyback> and the guy is like "wtf is this shit" sips it and thinks it's amazing and he's like why is this so cool
39:14 <flyback> and the bartender is like "well I noticed the food stains on your shirt, that means you been working many long nights on this project without going home, you are proabbly stressed, not sleeping well and your gut is probably tired so this was best suited
40:03 <flyback> scrapped pricess was the first one I watched online via buggy winamptv
40:11 <flyback> back in 2003 when I was bed ridden
40:26 <flyback> beore that I only saw anime like 1-2 times a year when scifi channel had a special
42:48 <flyback> cowboy bebop ending messed me up
42:55 <flyback> watching someon fade out like that
42:59 <Lemon> ampera thats bad, I slept and I still want that ridiculous server, send help
43:02 <flyback> that was too much
44:10 <Ampera> Lemon, do what you guys always do when they're stressed and execute a politician or something.
44:17 <Ampera> *when you're
45:11 <rust_collector> they are trying to save electricity there, so he probably can not find a light pole to hang a politician from
45:39 <flyback> ugh
45:42 <flyback> I knew someone on irc
45:53 <flyback> vanished from irc
45:54 <Lemon> or buy the thing and not think about consequences :>>>
46:09 * Ampera hugs Lemon
46:16 <flyback> turned out his sister wanted to see some stars with her telescope but street light was obscuiring the view
46:19 <Ampera> I feel like meh today q.q
46:25 <arch> flyback, now he's just...somebody that you used to know
46:25 <Ampera> I think it's getting better though
46:29 <Ampera> at least I'm getting some good work done
46:31 <flyback> so he went out with a pocket knfie and tried to cut the wires
46:37 <flyback> darwin awards
46:50 <Lemon> flyback hah, I was a bit more clever ! I shot one with a 22lr suppressed :>
47:06 <Lemon> only costed them one bulb thats okkkk
47:11 <flyback> yeah that was a real bummer
47:12 <Lemon> and I was able to sleep for 3 months !
47:13 <rust_collector> here, they have fuses or breakers, so just open the cover, and turn the thing off
47:16 <flyback> lemon nice
47:35 <Lemon> looking at how they are made here, I wouldn't touch it D:
47:43 <Lemon> shits are soooo old
47:57 <Lemon> ampera after work get yourself a nice drink and relax !!
48:21 <Ampera> Lemon, I am gonna go to the store and buy food :>
48:25 <Ampera> I plan to make miso soup and bao
48:37 <rust_collector> fish liver oil or something
48:43 <arch> what a weaboo, with your chinese meals
49:12 <rust_collector> uh, chinese?
49:23 <Ampera> miso soup and bao is norwegian
49:27 <Ampera> rust_collector will testify to that
49:40 <rust_collector> yep
50:05 <rust_collector> classic scandinavian. I am not really sure, but I think it was first made in sweden
50:06 <Lemon> that sounds good :P
50:17 <Lemon> I just breakfasted with a kinder bueno, a coffee and a fag
50:18 <Lemon> as usual
50:25 <arch> lol
52:30 <arch> im waiting for quite a few parts to come. valve cover gaskets, new driver side cv axle, smoke machine, valve lash adjustment tool, valve gap strips, headlight restorer kit, rtv gasket makers, seal puller, both chlorinated and non chlorinated brake cleaners... damn, being a DIY mechanic is expensive, but worth it
53:00 <flyback> but careful with that cholorinated cleaners
53:12 <rust_collector> nah, it is fine
53:12 <flyback> very nasty not just for you but many materials such as plastics and rubbers
53:25 <rust_collector> I never use it any more
53:28 <arch> i got a 12 can case of brake cleaner (standard, chlorinated) for $55 last year, it lasted me till now
53:56 <flyback> ill stick with the poisonous methanol one, unless you spray it in your mouth or all over yourself on purpose
54:00 <flyback> it's non toxic
54:02 <arch> i got the non chlorinated one so i can spray rubber parts; the chlorinated (standard) one i will use on metal parts without rubber
54:03 <rust_collector> have you tried to clear up plastics with acetone steam?
54:19 <flyback> acetone eats plastic
54:22 <arch> ^
54:35 <flyback> although it is used to remove a top level of oxidation on lenses sometimes
54:41 <flyback> by dissolving just a few atoms thick
54:48 <rust_collector> uh, yes, as does sand paper, or other polishing things
03:45 <DHess_US> naphtha (lighter fluid) is the plastic safe solvent of choice.
04:22 * arch polishes electrohead's head and uses it to concentrate sunlight to burn a hole in T3sl4's pants
32:33 <Lemon> speakin of teslas
32:45 <Lemon> any of you got some of those ? gpus, im talking bout :>
32:57 <Lemon> and hello dhess_us, long time no see :>
36:18 <Lemon> it's really hard to know how many gpus servers can take, I don't know if the length they allow for gpus is standard
37:28 <rust_collector> I am sure they have plenty of standards for that stuff
37:32 <Lemon> I also found some servers with four nodes, each holding 2 cpus
37:49 <Lemon> so many different things for not so much money (electricity I know I know)
40:08 <Lemon> heck I don't even know what you can do with those, if you can join all four nodes worth of power
40:15 <Lemon> or if you have to divide your workload in multiple instances
40:26 <Lemon> that would be rad to have a system that sees all 8 cpus
43:49 <Lemon> on one hand betting on stuff that got 7 years old cpus and pcie 3 is cheap, on another hand stuff with slithly more recent cpus and pcie 4 is expensive but i'd get more life out of it
51:40 <electrohead> Lmao
51:44 * electrohead noogies arch
51:47 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/IMG_20241008_114733.jpg
57:16 <arch> electrohead, air fried bananas?
58:49 <rust_collector> eel jerky
09:06 <Lemon> ampera hey, I see that those 1u dell/hp servers with 4x3.5" bays are fairly cheap, what do you think of them ? those with e5 v4 xeons
09:27 <Lemon> 4x10tb in those would be already a nice start, 30tb usable in raid 5 or whatever raid that takes one parity drive
09:55 <Ampera> Lemon, I think any second hand server hardware is a tricky compromise. A lot of it is very power hungry, and you can end up paying more for the power than you would to just do your stuff in the cloud.
10:10 <Lemon> yeah Im very well aware of that
10:16 <rust_collector> I am not a server guy, but I think the 1u stuff tends to be extra noisy?
10:21 <Ampera> In terms of storage, more drives is always better. IMO storage is best and cheapest when you have large arrays with a lot of redundancy.
10:23 <Lemon> but its also a hobby, learning how to manage them, having the hardware at home :>
10:44 <Lemon> ive seen 12x3.5" servers but price jump by 2/3x
10:51 <Lemon> seems we don't have super nice deals in the eu ;/
10:56 <Ampera> My 6TB drives cost me 30$ a piece buying them used off ebay, but because I have them in a RAIDZ3, and they're so cheap, I can easily have spares hanging around, and buy more when I need them
10:57 <Lemon> unless theres a website I don't know about
11:11 <Lemon> yes I planned to buy used SAS drives
11:17 <Ampera> My server is 20x3.5", and I bought that as a case and built my own PS in it
11:22 <Ampera> *PC
11:51 <Lemon> id like to have one storage server, one powerful gpu do-it-all server, and then the necessary stuff like a server that runs pfsense and other thingies, a switch, and a ups
12:10 <Lemon> id turn on the big boi only when needed
12:16 <Lemon> and the storage server would be idling
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12:32 <Lemon> watcha think of that roadmap ?
12:59 <Ampera> Lemon, buy brand new hardware and put it all in one box
13:06 <Ampera> It will be cheaper in the long run, and you get better stuff
13:09 <Lemon> thats just too expensive mate :/
13:12 <Lemon> I know its cheaper on the long run
13:17 <Lemon> but I just can't afford it
13:18 <Ampera> in my case it was cheaper /fast/
13:43 <Ampera> my servers were pulling 1kW just being turned on with no load. It was a /lot/ of money in a month to run them.
13:44 <Lemon> look at the dl580 gen 9, 900 euros for 96 cores, 256gb ddr4 and possibility to put 5 dual slot gpu
13:50 <Lemon> something new would be like ten times that
13:55 <Ampera> buy desktop hardware
14:05 <Lemon> but again, this one will be on sporadically
14:07 <Lemon> not 24/7
14:12 <arch> cheapest way to have RAID1/6/10 is to buy a couple USB-C HDD enclosures, flash the firmwares on them to disable idling/parking heads, buy a couple 20TB WD RED drives, and off you go. each drive uses 5W or so idling, so 15-20W power consumption. that's peanuts
14:12 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:13 <Lemon> maybe 1h a day once in a while
14:17 <Ampera> it sounds like famous last words to me
14:32 <Ampera> arch, sounds like the worst way to do it too, lol
14:46 <arch> i have 2x USB3 SATA enclosures, 2x 6TB HDDs, RAID1. low power consumption. im happy
14:55 <arch> it's the cheapest and most efficient method
15:01 <Ampera> how much was one drive
15:12 <Lemon> cheapest I don't know, but efficient yes it surely nicer than older dell/hp servers
15:13 <arch> $40 when i bought em like a year ago
15:27 <Lemon> 40 bucks for 20tb drives ?
15:30 <arch> no
15:31 <arch> 6TB
15:32 <Ampera> 6TB
15:35 <Lemon> ha yes
15:44 <Ampera> That's probably fine. It's not a ton of space, and you'd need to keep an eye on it because drives those cheap aren't going to be the most reliable
15:46 <Lemon> thats about the price of sas hgsts used on ebay from what I saw
15:48 <rust_collector> hm, there is a place in france, called condom.
15:51 <arch> why the fuck do you need 20TB for? what kinda tentacle hentai are you collecting?
15:57 <arch> it took me a while to fill up 2TB even
16:04 <Lemon> thats what you told me to get haha
16:08 <Ampera> that being said, I've been very impressed with the ebay hgst ultrastars I've bought. For 30$ a pop, the failure rate has been low and I've easily come out gold with that
16:13 <Lemon> "buy a couple 20tb wd red drivesz" :>
16:16 <Ampera> I have about 80TB in total
16:22 <Lemon> id get smaller drives if I do it
16:22 <arch> yeah that's IF you need 20TB drives
16:28 <Ampera> once you count redundancy
16:54 <Lemon> I dont need hundreds of tb, if I end up with 40tb usable after parity and shit, im happy
16:55 <DHess_US> https://i.imgflip.com/961g1z.jpg
16:59 <Lemon> if I need more, I'll add more
17:24 <Lemon> so yeah ideally a server with 8x3.5" slots would be nice
17:25 <arch> ok, here's the most basic setup i would ever settle for, and is my CURRENT setup: 2x USB3 SATA enclosures ($60) + 2x WD Purple 6TB ($80), in RAID1 config
17:34 <Lemon> id take an e5 v4 L version that consumes not a ton
17:58 <arch> also note that RAID =/= backups. always keep a backup
17:58 <Lemon> well I should add that id like to go with rackable tuff
18:04 <DHess_US> I have an Areca 1860 with 8 x 14TB in RAID6
18:05 <Lemon> yeye I know
18:25 <Ampera> I have 8x4TB RAIDZ2 and 12x6TB RAIDZ3 pools, all running HGST UltraStars. I
18:26 <arch> DHess_US trying to be his own AWS datacenter
18:27 <DHess_US> 1860? 1680
18:42 <Lemon> if I get the bigboi it won't have lots of storage in it
18:46 <Lemon> just a couple sata ssds
18:54 <Ampera> I've been building those pools slowly up for a while. It's basically finished for now.
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19:06 <arch> what os are you running Ampera
19:08 <Ampera> I've thought about replacing the 4TB drives with 6TB ones, and maybe folding it all into the same pool.
19:10 <Ampera> arch, debian
19:17 <Lemon> so that would be my z440 to access remotely the dl580 when power is needed, whatever storage server, and a pfsense/opvsense server
19:34 <electrohead> arch: yeah, dehydrated bananas, it's for long term storage
19:38 <arch> ZFS on debian? i had a hell of a time trying to get openzfs working on fedora
19:49 <electrohead> I got zfs working flawlessly on arch
19:54 <Lemon> I went with btrfs on fedora
19:58 * electrohead dd's arch
20:00 <arch> lol
20:01 <Ampera> arch, I run ZFS on most of my linux machines
20:02 <Lemon> a raid 10 of four m.2 nvme
20:07 <Lemon> for the os/softwares etc
20:11 <Ampera> ZFS on root isn't that hard, it's gotten easier each time I've done it.
20:32 <Ampera> I managed to install ZFS on root under arch on my new laptop flawlessly without having to reload into the boot media to fix something
20:48 <Ampera> I showed electrohead ZFS when I came over, I think I infected him >:D
21:04 <electrohead> pretty much lol
21:09 <electrohead> that was on your tablet, too
21:09 <arch> i like btrfs because it's simple to set up, and the snapshots feature is very handy
21:11 <Lemon> is it a problem if I got dell AND hp servers ?
21:13 <DHess_US> My other system needs faster bulk storage, so thinking of this with 5 x 2TB SATA SSDs and Windows Storage Spaces which I have had good results with. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CM73VQKH/
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21:18 <Ampera> electrohead, I sold that tablet and replaced it with a framework 13 :D
21:29 <Lemon> or would it be best practice to go with only one brand
21:30 <electrohead> ahh
21:39 <electrohead> yeah I keep thinking about the framework laptops
21:42 <Ampera> it's still got the same OS on it, I sold it to a friend I know who wanted me to keep it how I had it and just take my stuff off
22:00 <Ampera> electrohead, when you're closer to buying one, lmk and I'll tell you what my experiences have been like.
22:07 <DHess_US> Then I could plug it into any of my Windows boxes, including my laptop, and have instant access to 5 x 2TB RAID5.
22:07 <Ampera> So far I've been very happy with this thing.
22:17 <arch> Lemon, no issues mix and matching servers
22:25 <Lemon> ok thanks
22:37 <DHess_US> But you have to do the Storage Spaces configuration from the command line in Windows.
22:54 <Lemon> i'll just look for the best shit I can get with my low budget, and improve it as best as I can for power usage :> and upgrade it down the line !
23:01 <Lemon> I just can't throw several thousands right now
23:06 <Lemon> even if yes thats the best things to do
23:27 <Lemon> if I want to have a server that can take multiple gpus, theres no much options, yes I could build a desktop
23:39 <Lemon> but I wont get that much cpu multi thread power for the price
23:44 <Lemon> and it wont be as neat, theres that too
23:49 <Lemon> its more of a want than a need :>
24:25 <Ampera> arch, btrfs has fewer features than zfs iirc, and its parity raid is notoriously unreliable.
24:41 <Ampera> ZFS also has snapshots and most of the same stuff btrfs has
24:59 <DHess_US> I messed around with ZFS and while it worked, it had some troubles with Samba and wasn't any faster than what I have.
25:22 <Ampera> ZFS is very tweakable, while it's possible to rice it and get it to be pretty fast, I don't use it for speed.
25:43 <DHess_US> My network is 3 x 1G SMB3
25:55 <arch> i like zfs cuz you don't have to recheck the entire raid array if one of the disk loses power or something
26:06 <Ampera> I use it for convenience, consistency, and reliability. I've never lost data to ZFS, and I've never felt like I have no idea what it's doing and was powerless to do something I needed to.
26:26 <Ampera> All my machines run ZFS, making it very easy to do things like incremental snapshot transfers when I want to backup data
26:29 <arch> rechecking the entire raid array, especially with today's multi-TB drives...is a fucking pain
26:35 <arch> takes forever
26:40 <DHess_US> So I ended up with Storage Spaces using a random assortment of drives with 6 x RAID6. I like that in Storage Spaces I can add and remove drives as I like.
26:59 <Ampera> soft allocated partitions with rich compression and encryption options is also nice.
27:14 <arch> DHess_US, have you tested it by unplugging a drive mid transfer?
27:14 <Ampera> I like zvols too
27:27 <DHess_US> arch, had a drive fail mid transfer. Never noticed.
28:07 <DHess_US> And then with Storage Spaces, I can just remove the drive and it will redistribute the data, or add a replacement, whatever, and can change drive sizes as I like.
28:23 <DHess_US> But Storage Spaces is slow unless you use the command line to set it up properly.
29:16 <DHess_US> zfs and samba was a little bit faster, but I had problems with samba
30:32 <Ampera> I've never felt a strong need for persistent network fs mounts. I'd probably use nfs if so, but I mostly juse use SFTP/SSHFS for that.
30:49 <Ampera> most of the stuff I care about is in nextcloud, or can be accessed better by stuff like Jellyfin
31:12 <electrohead> sshfs is my goto
31:27 <electrohead> tried using NFS in the past, had more issues trying to get everything working together
31:43 <electrohead> kodi gave me the most issues with NFS
31:54 <Lemon> I was wondering something, if I want to remotely access my big boi server
31:56 <Ampera> main issue with sshfs/sftp is it's rather slow
32:01 <Lemon> I need some fast way to communicate with it ?
32:01 <Ampera> but that only matters once in a blue moon.
32:07 <Lemon> or a simple 10G nic is enough ?
32:10 <DHess_US> Samba would sometimes create a file or directory that I could not delete without deleting the ZFS volume.
32:27 <Ampera> Lemon, 10GbE is cheap-ish, easy to set up, and probably as good as you'll care to need
32:34 <Ampera> even I only have 1GbE between all my machines.
32:35 <Lemon> alright
32:48 <Ampera> I used to have 10GbE, but then I moved to a desktop replacement laptop, and thunderbolt NICs cost more than I care to pay for them
32:55 <DHess_US> I have 3 x 1GbE between machines that operate in parallel.
32:56 <Lemon> for the router I wont need more than 1g, my net is capped at half a gig
33:16 <Lemon> theres so many different types of servers
33:24 <Lemon> the oldest I want is with e5 v4
33:27 <Lemon> nothing older than that
33:31 <DHess_US> hehe, for my laptop, I have 3 x 1GbE USB-C adapters, plus wifi, plus the built in ethernet.
34:10 <DHess_US> The 5G and 10G USB-C adapters I found all overheat if you use them for more than a few minutes at a time.
34:11 <Lemon> for ethernet cables, do you make them yourselves ?
34:21 <Lemon> seems cheaper that way
34:29 <DHess_US> I sometimes make my own, or I buy those thin ones on Amazon.
35:11 <DHess_US> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GGQBQ4R/
35:11 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com: Monoprice Cat6A 20ft White 5-Pk Patch Cable UTP 30AWG 10G Pure Bare Copper Snagless RJ45 SlimRun Series Ethernet Cable : Electronics | www.amazon.com
37:26 <Lemon> thats fairly cheap yeah
37:36 <DHess_US> Have a couple of these for long runs in my room because they are easier to hide along molding, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089MF1LZN
37:36 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com: Amazon Basics RJ45 Cat 7 Ethernet Patch Cable, Flat, 600MHz, Snagless, Includes 25 Nails for Printer, 100 Foot, White : Electronics | www.amazon.com
37:57 <Lemon> seems a server with e5 v4s that got at least 8x3.5" bays would cost 300/350+
38:31 <Lemon> I found a r730 for 400 shipped
38:37 <Lemon> 450 shipped sorry
41:18 <Lemon> hoooo an intel server much cheaper
41:22 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/156271401900?_skw=server+8xLFF&itmmeta=01J9PG1CSJ0YKGKZQCJ0VNHV9V&hash=item2462805bac:g:WfcAAOSwxaRmXts-&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKn321qVm39F6qJaz3dJq%2BSdoiJeuTtZZsxyDHvzIZAsM4rIF11EL8YjA7TwAeIouVkmbSHeneFkmegrOdPKg5V%2BTTgNnEAjIJ4tH06KaGOTYzeiNqJ7fyljG6ntP9VM0X9dK%2BGp7M01lUY5vDYvMqaWhF6qr8lADMN5Uht89qNe8Z1rK8v6xAUsgYds3Sqag%2FiNxbWD%2BUMN2PJgYXSo6OXcCARobKAbIXl%2FH%2BRMoRLp5C4cW5tF0ecKysf6wPJwSuk%3D%7
41:22 <Lemon> Ctkp%3ABk9SR_LMhdDNZA
41:23 <EEVBot> [url] Intel R2308WTTYS 2HE-Server 8xLFF, 2 x E5-2650v3, 32GB, 2x300GB 15k, 2xPSU | eBay | www.ebay.fr
41:27 <Lemon> woops big link
41:33 <Lemon> those can surely take v4s
41:37 <Lemon> 160 euros
42:49 <Lemon> 2x10Gb nics integrated
42:54 <Lemon> thats under 200 shipped
45:50 <Lemon> no idea wheres the catch, even if it doesnt take v4s its really cheap
50:23 <Lemon> its so annoying, most servers got 2.5 bays
24:42 <arch> Lemon, ur annoying
30:19 <Ampera> arch, okay mr. does anyone in here have experience with
31:21 <arch> does anyone here have experience dealing with annoying people who drive subarus?
32:19 Quit: flyback ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
32:25 <arch> im on a long meeting and am looking at the car workshop manual
32:46 <Ampera> arch, those people are called lesbians.
33:31 <arch> you're making subarus look bad
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43:02 <Ampera> :/
43:09 <Ampera> sorry for being gay I guess
51:10 <arch> lolol https://honda-tech.com/forums/tech-misc-15/check-engine-light-code-p0171-573309/#post6074107
51:10 <EEVBot> [url] Access denied | honda-tech.com used Cloudflare to restrict access | honda-tech.com
51:30 <arch> ` um hello.. this board sucks asshole for newbs ` i agree with him. fucking useless forum. it's basically dead.
53:00 <arch> honda tech forums used to be good, a LOOOOONG time ago
12:58 <arch> hmm.. can i use transmission hoses for vacuum hoses? i mean, it'll be less flexible, but it'll work, no?
13:43 <Lemon> alright alright I'll stop asking
14:15 <MrMobodies> Just found this
14:18 <MrMobodies> https://github.com/gawindx/WinNUT-Client/releases
14:18 <EEVBot> [url] Releases · gawindx/WinNUT-Client · GitHub | github.com
14:31 <MrMobodies> "Fixed a string length error for the German language (this problem should also exist with other languages but only if the strings were long enough) "
14:48 <MrMobodies> I wonder, is it because Germans words can be very long.
15:30 <MrMobodies> https://www.berlitz.com/blog/longest-word-german
15:31 <EEVBot> [url] The longest German word? The top 15 will knock your socks off! | www.berlitz.com
15:47 <MrMobodies> My mum worked with this nurse who visited our house one day back in 2017
16:05 <MrMobodies> she had this name that seemed unusually long
16:29 <MrMobodies> and she was insistant I got it right
16:43 <MrMobodies> I mean insist me trying to get it right
17:14 <MrMobodies> oops 2007 not 2017
17:39 <MrMobodies> she had this dark tone but sounded very sincere to me
45:17 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
49:41 <K> oh, i missed Kuschelpony
34:03 <MrMobodies> Very disappointed
34:14 <MrMobodies> with the NUT UPS on Homeassistant
34:35 <MrMobodies> they ASSUME I want to send the alerts to a stupid phone
34:39 <MrMobodies> "This event allows you to create automations to do things like send a critical notification to your phone:"
34:47 <MrMobodies> No! I want to send it to a syslog server.
40:03 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/AkBl504.jpeg
40:15 <MrMobodies> Okay so unplugged the ups and back in and it shows there
02:17 <MrMobodies> I was looking for a Youtube video someone mentioned earlier and noticed this
02:23 <MrMobodies> <Halcyon> MrMobodies, you around? I was just reading your thread on Phishing
02:58 <MrMobodies> <Halcyon> I'm not aware of any way someone can spoof the paypal.com domain
03:26 <MrMobodies> I don't know how they managed to do it and bypass the spam filters but I can send you the message source
05:59 <MrMobodies> What I mean't was they were using the Paypal platform and tricked the Outlook filters that it was "trusted".
06:27 <MrMobodies> "Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of 4maid.onmicrosoft.com
06:28 <MrMobodies> designates 40.107.255.108 as permitted sender)"
06:35 <MrMobodies> That's one of them
06:52 <MrMobodies> "Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 40.107.255.108)
06:52 <MrMobodies> smtp.mailfrom=4maid.onmicrosoft.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified)
06:52 <MrMobodies> header.d=paypal.com;dmarc=pass action=none
06:52 <MrMobodies> header.from=paypal.com;compauth=pass reason=100"
08:05 <MrMobodies> the file is 57260 long in characters and 1017 lines
23:23 <arch> rust_collector, any issue with using transmission hoses for replacing vacuum hoses to brake booster, or evap, etc?
23:39 <arch> i could get vacuum hoses from napa, but i wanna use my existing stock up
47:54 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
07:23 <electrohead> are the pressure and temperature ratings similar?
07:27 <electrohead> if so, then you should be fine
24:36 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/2024-10-08-212410_1920x1080_scrot.png
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05:06 <steve30> o/
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04:50 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera. How's you?
04:50 <Ampera> pensive
04:50 <Ampera> how are you doing
04:50 <Halcyon> What chu thinking about? I'm good. I woke up thinking about the wood fired pizza we had last night. It was so delicious
04:50 <Ampera> thinking about my life
04:50 <Ampera> the good and the bad in it
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04:50 <Halcyon> As you do
04:50 <Ampera> did you like my hair?
04:50 <Halcyon> Sure? I mean it's hair?
04:50 <Ampera> :P
04:50 <Halcyon> Might need to do another poop. The first one was a bit spicy
04:50 <Ampera> gross
04:50 <Halcyon> I had a Diavola pizza, and it had a bit of spank
04:50 <Ampera> gay
04:50 <Halcyon> *grins*
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04:50 <steve30> hi
19:03 <rust_collector> electrohead pressure rating similar between a pressurized hydraulic hose, and a vacuum hose?
19:43 <rust_collector> arch you probably can. they tend to be fairly stiff walled, so they do not collapse
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