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00:20:26 <T3sl4> Halcyon_: stupid pups https://imgur.com/gallery/B6LM7eO
00:20:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - Mission impawssible :D - Album on Imgur
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00:24:04 <jaymax> Tom Chews
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00:39:15 <Ysjoelfir> K - oy!
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00:41:38 <K> Ysjoelfir - brought the amp from hometown - https://imgur.com/a/9EezKSu
00:41:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
00:41:45 <DHess_US> lol, https://www.amazon.com/MakerFocus-Deauther-Programmable-Development-Wristband/dp/B081Q6BGHN?th=1
00:41:46 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
00:45:36 <Ysjoelfir> woah, nice K! that looks beefy as fuck
00:51:14 <K> it is oversized
00:51:28 <K> it is measely 20W at best
00:51:42 <K> class a
00:52:38 <K> i like it
00:58:20 <K> and now it is time to go hunt for some rca connectors
01:03:28 <Ysjoelfir> What do you want for connectors? I have some nice ones left, that I don't need
01:14:54 <electrohead> DHess_US: the comments, wtf.
01:15:33 <electrohead> I personally think that certain items need to have some sort of tech-related test, just to purchase them, let alone make comments
01:17:41 * Ysjoelfir passes electrohead some Smirnoff Ice
01:19:01 * electrohead cautiously drinks it
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01:33:00 <jaymax> Wait, that isn't lemon...
01:33:38 <jaymax> Freaking turnip juice
02:12:49 * Ysjoelfir watches electrohead closely
02:13:34 * electrohead gets watched
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03:42:30 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder where Lemon is again.
03:46:13 <Kuschelpony> i wish everyone a good late evening
03:50:17 <jaymax> Thanks! I look forward to it as well.
04:14:03 <TheDude> hi
04:17:50 <Ysjoelfir> a pleasant evening to you too, Kuschelpony
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04:41:22 <electrohead> food shopping is done, yays
04:49:16 <Ysjoelfir> yayz!
04:49:20 <Ysjoelfir> where is mine?
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05:00:07 <MrMobodies> Hello
05:00:49 <MrMobodies> I brought a 12v 12a sealed lead acid battery
05:00:55 <MrMobodies> it turned up an hour ago
05:01:03 <MrMobodies> whilst packed okay
05:01:12 <MrMobodies> there is a bit of damage on the top cover
05:01:36 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/JFz9vuV.jpg
05:02:35 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/MMKPMK5.jpg
05:02:38 <MrMobodies> a closer look
05:02:46 <MrMobodies> do you think this is safe to use?
05:04:22 <Ysjoelfir> should be. what is the voltage?
05:04:35 <Ysjoelfir> if it is normal i wouldnt be worried
05:07:10 <MrMobodies> 12.66v
05:07:23 <MrMobodies> and I can smell something on that edge
05:07:43 <MrMobodies> I don't know if it is just the plastic in the cavity
05:08:01 <MrMobodies> smells plasitcally/metallic
05:08:29 <MrMobodies> I am going to let the seller know of course
05:08:42 <MrMobodies> do you think I should fill it in with something, just to make sure
05:08:46 <MrMobodies> like superglue?
05:09:17 <MrMobodies> other than that it looks in good condition, no bulging
05:09:20 <MrMobodies> and cracks
05:10:16 <DHess_US> MrMobodies, the top cover is just a cover. It is safe.
05:12:02 <MrMobodies> I know some come with a rubber cover on the individual cells
05:12:08 <MrMobodies> maybe it has those
05:12:15 <MrMobodies> and i am just being paranoid again
05:13:34 <coppice> Looks like you got a cracking deal there.
05:20:20 <MrMobodies> I don't understand
05:20:35 <MrMobodies> is that a joke or more trouble than what it's worth?
05:20:50 <MrMobodies> I have sent them an email detailing this damage
05:20:56 <MrMobodies> just incase there are any problem
05:21:12 <MrMobodies> What do you think Coppice?
05:21:29 <MrMobodies> I am being paranoid or should I demand a return?
05:21:34 <MrMobodies> in terms of safety
05:22:07 <MrMobodies> I don't know how these are sealed up inside. I know some have rubber covers over holes to refill the.
05:22:31 <MrMobodies> what I don't want is a fire,
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06:18:42 <MrMobodies> Right I had another look, under better lighting, there are scatches, marks and another dent to the right
06:19:02 <MrMobodies> It looks very used to me and like it was dropped or something heavy fell on or around it
06:19:13 <MrMobodies> on their website they have a year warranty
06:19:26 <MrMobodies> but it doesn't cover physical damage or wear and tear
06:19:31 <MrMobodies> and what did they send out
06:20:13 <MrMobodies> https://www.tayna.co.uk/tutorials/battery-warranty-information
06:20:14 <EEVBot> [Title] - Battery Warranty - What is Covered?
06:20:34 <MrMobodies> a very wear and tear looking battery with visible damage to the surface
06:21:13 <MrMobodies> say it worked, something happened, I returned it and they refused to honor the warranty based on what they sold me
06:21:36 <Nothing\> lol was just showing my cats videos of swans and ducks. They loved them. Wouldn't take their eyes off of the TV.
06:21:46 <MrMobodies> so I replied again reminding them about this, I am not happy and i want them to pick it up
06:22:06 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, I'd be pissed if I got something that wasn't an IC that was scratched or dinged
06:22:22 <MrMobodies> It it suppose to be a *new* battery but looks more like a refubished battery to me but with the damage
06:22:45 <MrMobodies> it's this one
06:22:46 <MrMobodies> https://www.tayna.co.uk/mobility-batteries/yuasa/np12-12-fr/
06:22:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - Yuasa NP12-12FR (Flame Retardant) 12V 12Ah Battery
06:22:59 <Nothing\> i mean i've received lots of ICs where the surface was scraped up a bit. Presumably just from being knocked around wherever they were stored. Even some bent pins here and there but it wasn't a big deal since they were just jellybeans
06:23:07 <Nothing\> and it's not like i couldn't bend the pins back into place
06:23:56 <MrMobodies> I would make an exception for the marks
06:24:05 <MrMobodies> it does measure 12.66 volts
06:24:19 <MrMobodies> but the physical damage and I am smelling something that corner
06:24:19 <Nothing\> i'm more pissed about the chips where the writing comes off of my fingers are the least bit oily. Like if I'm scratching my face and I haven't washed it in a day or two, then I go to insert a chip the printing on it rubs off and eventually with some of them it came off all together and there was no laser etching below. Which makes me wonder if they're counterfeits.
06:24:40 <MrMobodies> ohh I think Dave did a video on that
06:24:46 <MrMobodies> well hard to read chips
06:24:59 <Nothing\> You'd think TI would at least laser etch all of their chips regardless of the type of ink they use. I'm sure the ink varies from fab to fab but laser etching seems pretty universal.
06:25:04 <MrMobodies> where they etch them in and have to use a Bipolar lens in one of this Tigano videos
06:25:36 <Nothing\> I haven't had any hard to read chips. But diodes, holy crap. I can barely read the writing no my Zeners/avalanche diodes
06:26:04 <Nothing\> and they all look identical, same glass package as a 4148 whatever they're called
06:26:25 <Nothing\> DO-35
06:28:12 <coppice> Nothing\: people like TI put out a huge amount of their assembly and test to 3rd parties. They generally use the labelling systems those people provide
06:28:24 <Nothing\> illuminated magnifying glasses are a godsend for stuff like that.
06:28:39 <Nothing\> coppice, i figured there would be a lot of variation.
06:28:58 <coppice> changing the lighting makes most hard to read devices suddenly look clear
06:29:17 * Ampera launches a mushroom at Nothing\
06:37:07 <Nothing\> hey Ampera
06:37:10 <Nothing\> how you doing
06:41:00 <Nothing\> boo i thought i could make a current sawtooth gen using a dc motor being pulsed on and off by a square wave gen but with the flyback diode it doesn't work
06:46:56 <Nothing\> coppice, speaking of TI have you ever used this Tina-TI... it seems to be a circuit simulator like spice or something
06:47:31 <coppice> Tina-TI is spice
06:47:47 <coppice> https://www.ti.com/tool/TINA-TI
06:47:49 <EEVBot> [Title] - TINA-TI Simulation tool | TI.com
06:48:30 <Nothing\> okay cool yeah i've already got it i just noticed it on my desktop but i don't remember downloading it so i was just checking out what it was. It seems really useful actually.
06:49:10 <Nothing\> LTSpice was not the most intuitive but it was definitely the most accurate, it seemed.
06:49:21 <Nothing\> or at least the most detail put into accuracy
06:49:40 <Nothing\> so maybe this'll be easier to use
06:50:57 <Nothing\> oh yeah this is nice
06:51:01 <Nothing\> i like this
06:51:43 <Nothing\> i'm glad i happened upon it. Dunno where it came from but I'll consider it a happy accident.
06:53:10 <Nothing\> nice big parts list too. I like I like.
06:57:46 <TheDude> ltspice has the most basic and efficient user interface
06:58:13 <TheDude> from what I recall, Tina-TI has some shitty pop up windows whenever you want to plot something
06:58:21 <TheDude> and actually reading the data is kind of shitty
06:58:51 <TheDude> it's nowhere near as bad as multisim or similar turds
07:08:23 <coppice> If we are all living in a simulation, what would be the difference between a spice model and a circuit?
07:31:06 <DHess_US> https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/why-israels-spike-anti-tank-missile-out-ranks-javelin-172440
07:31:23 <DHess_US> coppice, one would be a simulation, and the other would be a simulation of a simulation.
07:32:17 <DHess_US> coppice, you might like this book, https://www.amazon.com/Entoverse-James-P-Hogan/dp/034537942X
07:32:18 <EEVBot> [Title] - Amazon.com
07:34:57 <coppice> DHess_US: but all as fake as a politician's smile
07:36:24 <coppice> DHess_US: and what is the being running the simulation that is us, it also a simulation being run by a turtle at a higher level.
07:39:12 <coppice> maybe we are the lowest level. tradition says the universe is turtles all the way down. Maybe some turtle bucked the trend and simulated us, instead of more turtles
07:43:10 <coppice> will we prove to be as smart as the turtles, or never be able to create the next level down?
07:45:26 <DHess_US> coppice, like I said, you might like that book.
07:46:07 <coppice> read a book? I wanna be like the cool kids.
07:48:49 <coppice> Dhess_US: this doesn't seem to agree with you https://sfbook.com/entoverse.htm
07:48:50 <EEVBot> [Title] - Book review of Entoverse by James P Hogan
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08:43:13 <MrMobodies> Hello, really worried and lkind of scared
08:43:26 <MrMobodies> two dirty alcohol wipes fell in my tea
08:43:41 <MrMobodies> I only knew about it when I tipped the rest of the cold tea in the sink
08:43:53 <MrMobodies> will that cause me harm?
08:44:03 <MrMobodies> like liver failure?
08:44:06 <rust_collector> what did you wipe with them?
08:44:23 <MrMobodies> I know the wipes are 70% Isoproyl alcohol
08:44:29 <MrMobodies> A screen and a keyboard
08:44:37 <MrMobodies> it was a very clean screen and keyboard
08:44:54 <MrMobodies> I thought there was a scratch on the bezel
08:44:59 <rust_collector> nah, don't worry about it
08:45:04 <MrMobodies> but using the wipe it is was just a mark
08:45:07 <MrMobodies> oh good
08:45:20 <MrMobodies> thanks
08:45:27 <MrMobodies> I tend to get frightened sometimes
08:45:47 <MrMobodies> and thanks to all of you... I can have agood night sleep
08:45:47 <rust_collector> sure, stop making experimental teas
08:45:55 <MrMobodies> aaah sarcastic joke
08:45:58 <MrMobodies> a good one too
08:46:36 <rust_collector> I am pretty sure I have had a lot of bad stuff in my cups, over the years.
08:46:36 <MrMobodies> something like that would have bothered me for days
08:47:03 <MrMobodies> but I trust you all and it is no nice getting assurance
08:47:04 <rust_collector> heh, maybe you should be a little bit worried after all. be careful, or you will be like me
08:47:26 <rust_collector> but no, those wipes will not do anything to you
08:47:43 <MrMobodies> oh good and also I didn't drink much of it anyway
08:48:11 <MrMobodies> someone has given me this old laptop
08:48:16 <MrMobodies> instead of sipping the tea
08:48:29 <MrMobodies> I spent an hour trying to manually removfe GWX
08:48:35 <MrMobodies> the windows 10 updater
08:48:47 <MrMobodies> that's why they gave it to me in the first place
08:48:50 <MrMobodies> all gone everything
08:49:05 <MrMobodies> files, task scheduler stuff, registry stuff, event file and logs
08:49:16 <rust_collector> hmm, interesting. I could use an updateless 10, for some things
08:49:21 <MrMobodies> like it was never there in the first plce
08:49:28 <MrMobodies> I do hve windows 10
08:49:35 <MrMobodies> but it is te enterprise edition ltsc
08:49:43 <MrMobodies> and I don't install from scratch
08:49:56 <MrMobodies> with the amount of work I would have to do is too much
08:49:59 <MrMobodies> so I use a disc image
08:50:05 <rust_collector> I think I only use professional, but I am not really sure about the difference between them
08:50:11 <MrMobodies> with all the modifications and changes I made over 2 years
08:50:20 <MrMobodies> well the one i have
08:50:25 <MrMobodies> dont come with an APP store
08:50:37 <MrMobodies> there is nothing in there to constantly update
08:50:43 <MrMobodies> no promotional stuff
08:50:56 <MrMobodies> no unwanted crap like Candycrush and the weather
08:51:14 <MrMobodies> I just use Classicshell
08:51:21 <MrMobodies> and make it look like something from 20 years ago
08:51:27 <MrMobodies> that I recognise
08:51:33 <MrMobodies> near the appearance i can get it
08:51:42 <MrMobodies> so when I work I am hindered or annoyed by anything
08:51:47 <MrMobodies> that gets in the way
08:52:15 <MrMobodies> what I am going to have do though in this disc image is make a massive change
08:52:28 <MrMobodies> I make a template profile
08:52:34 <MrMobodies> and copy if to the default profile
08:52:43 <MrMobodies> so when a new account is made it would just copy it
08:52:47 <rust_collector> so, an hour... is it really that much work to get rid of the crap...
08:52:53 <rust_collector> oh, yes, that is an idea
08:53:02 <MrMobodies> the problem is that wildcard paths are not used so I have to manually rename them to the new profile name
08:53:07 <MrMobodies> yes
08:53:38 <MrMobodies> find gwx.exe
08:53:43 <MrMobodies> list the files down and path
08:53:50 <MrMobodies> search in registry for gwx
08:54:03 <MrMobodies> they set the permission under administrator to deny
08:54:05 <MrMobodies> what a cheeck
08:54:11 <MrMobodies> anyway change permissions
08:54:19 <MrMobodies> and then remove the entry
08:54:34 <rust_collector> but, what is wrong with files? I have barely tested it, but.. I guess it seems ok to me?
08:54:39 <MrMobodies> go into task scheduler folder and registry, set permissions and remove
08:54:55 <MrMobodies> they don't want it to update to windows 10
08:55:05 <MrMobodies> but I said to them, you may have to do something
08:55:13 <MrMobodies> I'll clean up windows 7 on there
08:55:18 <MrMobodies> and I'll preload you my copy
08:55:25 <MrMobodies> of my version of windows 10 ptsc
08:55:33 <MrMobodies> with a similar appearance as before
08:55:37 <MrMobodies> and see if they like it
08:55:46 <MrMobodies> it works perfectly fine on there
08:56:10 <rust_collector> I was a little bit annoyed the other day, on the edge browser, and you have to add some stuff in the registry, just to set it to what page you want displayed, in the "new tab"
08:56:10 <MrMobodies> paid for the key and it's seems really quick
08:56:36 <MrMobodies> wow, they removed that functionaility
08:56:48 <MrMobodies> In 2020, I thought it was good at first
08:56:55 <MrMobodies> they made a lot of changes on thw appearance
08:57:00 <MrMobodies> then they started going down hill
08:57:09 <MrMobodies> in the next update which I reverted
08:57:22 <MrMobodies> like putting animated placeholders on the menus starting from history
08:57:28 <MrMobodies> A big NONO!
08:57:37 <rust_collector> whaat?
08:57:41 <MrMobodies> I reported the feedback and I had a backup waiting
08:57:53 <MrMobodies> on the history menu in some version last year
08:58:03 <MrMobodies> there is animation thing that appears
08:58:07 <MrMobodies> and it is in some places
08:58:17 <MrMobodies> it flashes before showing the history and favourite items
08:58:23 <MrMobodies> that really really annoys me
08:58:31 <MrMobodies> not needed very stupid
08:58:42 <MrMobodies> and it is the flashing that does it for me
08:58:52 <rust_collector> hehe, yes, I probably just have not noticed
08:58:54 <MrMobodies> so I used that for Amazon prime video the old copy
08:59:18 <MrMobodies> that has topped working now as that chrome version is no longer supported
08:59:22 <MrMobodies> so now I am using Vivaldi
08:59:55 <MrMobodies> Chrome 90 built in which will be supported until October this year
09:00:28 <MrMobodies> they doing so well Edge, then they do this crap and do other stupid things that ruin it for me completely
09:00:55 <MrMobodies> and these stupid things are very little but they likle to interfere with my viewing and no way to switch it off
09:01:07 <MrMobodies> If I could switch it off then I'd be fine
09:01:19 <rust_collector> I am sure they will improve it, bit by bit, until it is really pretty good, then make it explode, and start over, lol
09:01:59 <MrMobodies> the explosion being the bombardment of decorations and animations that make me angry that i want to explode in temper.
09:02:32 <MrMobodies> also I see this image
09:02:44 <MrMobodies> like they thing I am somewhat stupid and confused and need to see these things
09:02:52 <MrMobodies> that are important than anything else
09:03:02 <MrMobodies> like i was screaming for these things on the street
09:03:16 <MrMobodies> sorry that was sarcasm
09:03:31 <rust_collector> I wonder what it is, that bothers you, is it some thing moving, so it makes you look at it, or is it flashing light? have you tried welding?
09:03:52 <rust_collector> no no, get out on the streets and protest!
09:04:00 <MrMobodies> yes, if something is moving, excessivelly and changes that distract me during what I am trying to do then yes
09:04:09 <rust_collector> steve 3 million will be there and film it
09:04:14 <MrMobodies> I had one recently with UK power networks something i hid
09:04:32 <MrMobodies> let's see if you notice it
09:05:34 <MrMobodies> https://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/power-cut/map?incidentid=INCD-286040-J
09:05:47 <MrMobodies> get rid of the cookies dialogue if any
09:06:04 <MrMobodies> and tell me what demands you attention the most
09:07:00 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/LAqB9AU.jpg
09:07:04 <MrMobodies> squared in red
09:07:07 <MrMobodies> it goes up and down
09:07:13 <MrMobodies> in a timed manner
09:07:15 <rust_collector> well, I am pretty good at ignoring things, but do you think of the bouncing tombstone at the bottom?
09:07:29 <MrMobodies> I see it no matter where I look on the page
09:07:30 <rust_collector> right, yes
09:08:00 <MrMobodies> when trying to find element it doesn't pick up I have to go into developer tools and it's hidden behind a load of other eleents
09:08:16 <MrMobodies> if I wriggle my finger in your face
09:08:16 <rust_collector> oh well. that one was actually pretty annoying, but at least it goes away with a click
09:08:19 <MrMobodies> how would you feel?
09:08:29 <MrMobodies> oooh nice I am not the only one
09:09:03 <MrMobodies> hypothetically would you be annoyed, if I wriggled my finger in your face, no matter where you looked?
09:09:35 <MrMobodies> just an analogy I was thinking of
09:09:35 <rust_collector> hmm, how I would feel... well, I am ok with a finger in my face. the real question is if you want to keep your finger
09:09:51 <rust_collector> yes, that works
09:10:03 <MrMobodies> I wish web designers who do this stuff were under that influence.
09:10:09 <MrMobodies> i like the joke
09:10:54 <MrMobodies> bet they would stop that nonsense
09:11:14 <rust_collector> oh, it is not a joke. but, it is the same as you do, I guess. you see an annoying thing, and you get rid of it.
09:12:01 <rust_collector> yes, I think you are more sensitive to such things, than me, but... it is what it is
09:12:19 <MrMobodies> 20 year ago
09:12:30 <MrMobodies> I just used a media player to see stuff
09:12:40 <MrMobodies> very basic with the controls under the picture
09:12:57 <MrMobodies> then it was put under a little border a small so it wasn't in the now
09:13:10 <MrMobodies> then they put gradients that go way paste and obscure that edges
09:13:23 <MrMobodies> now they put a dimming overlay like the Youtube APP thing i have seen people using
09:13:33 <MrMobodies> with the control slapped in the middle
09:13:40 <MrMobodies> so when they are trying to seek
09:13:50 <MrMobodies> how can they see the picture properly?
09:14:04 <MrMobodies> on what they trying to seek for especially with the play buttons in the middle
09:14:11 <MrMobodies> don't you think that is stupid?
09:14:15 <rust_collector> they have to do something, or they would not have a job. the gui for that was already done
09:14:44 <MrMobodies> I don't care how the gui looks as long as it doesn't interfere with the contents
09:14:55 <MrMobodies> but it seems to have gone past that point
09:14:57 <rust_collector> right, it was done 20 years ago
09:15:21 <rust_collector> heh, I am looking at that power outage map
09:15:25 <MrMobodies> I mean with the dimming overlays and unwanted crap over the playback
09:15:35 <rust_collector> and I see a place called hitler green, lol
09:15:39 <MrMobodies> it was just that thing
09:15:51 <MrMobodies> lets turn off adblock and see if I hid any wildcard stuff
09:16:26 <jaymax> rust_collector: how about lenin peak?
09:16:49 <rust_collector> no, sorry, I can not find that around this area
09:17:10 <jaymax> Probably erased over time.
09:17:17 <MrMobodies> yep they got that dimming overlay on th menu
09:17:24 <rust_collector> anyway, it turns out it was hither green, but that is good enough for me
09:18:20 <rust_collector> I choose to read it as hitler. I just prefer it like that
09:22:03 <MrMobodies> oh dear
09:22:08 <MrMobodies> when I hide the culprit
09:22:38 <MrMobodies> ukpowernetworks.co.uk##.site-content--nav-open
09:22:49 <MrMobodies> it doesn't dim but makes the background white
09:22:54 <MrMobodies> maybe I prefer it like that
09:23:13 <MrMobodies> I find unpleasant suddenly dimming large parts of the page like that
09:23:24 <rust_collector> do you go to that site THAT often?
09:23:48 <MrMobodies> I'll email them because i don't remember the mbeing like that I'll have to see if I can find the history through archive.org
09:23:52 <MrMobodies> yes
09:24:02 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/modamsshe/status/1521300374912749568?s=20&t=avA6S84oDA80KbgKYknSsg
09:24:08 <MrMobodies> sometimes the changes are only a month old
09:24:19 <MrMobodies> and sometimes they do change it
09:24:43 <MrMobodies> when I complain it hurts my eyes with good reason detailing it wasn't like the before and so on with the help of archive.org
09:26:18 <MrMobodies> I have not complain on EEVBLOG ever with the website design
09:26:27 <MrMobodies> now isn't that a surprise?
09:27:08 <MrMobodies> other than two adverts that I accidentally click (I can deal with those)
09:27:14 <MrMobodies> I am been quite happy with it
09:27:46 <MrMobodies> no spinners, dimming overlay, animations/placeholders
09:27:59 <MrMobodies> fake preploading stuff
09:28:22 <MrMobodies> it's just down to business the posts and the content
09:28:39 <MrMobodies> and I appreciate the work that Gnif puts into it too
09:29:12 <rust_collector> seems pretty ok, I think it is sort of old, but that works
09:29:15 <MrMobodies> I wanted to hide the adverts as I kept opening links by accidental a year ago
09:29:22 <rust_collector> but, I am going to bed. have fun
09:29:24 <MrMobodies> so I thought if I paid GNIF $5 a month
09:29:33 <MrMobodies> oh okay see you later
09:29:49 <MrMobodies> but apparently he told me he does it for a favour for Dave
09:30:31 <MrMobodies> but I still donate $5 which is a little to show some appreciate as he does all the work and custom stuff
09:30:35 <MrMobodies> in the way that i like
09:31:12 <MrMobodies> it's old but that goes to show it doesn't take a lot to please me.
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10:10:15 <electrohead> DHess_US: rofl. yeah I saw that earlier, funny stuff
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14:09:09 <steve30> i was going to go to tesco this morning but it looks like rain
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14:41:54 <DHess_US> https://youtu.be/KWAthjiqLkE
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15:39:55 <Ysjoelfir> just wait until next week, steve30
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18:46:28 <steve30> *purr*
18:56:56 <Ysjoelfir> The fuck is this supposed to be https://www.ebay.de/itm/224221607440?hash=item3434a63610:g:kjgAAOSwGqFfosBv
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19:20:20 <Halcyon> Evening wenches
19:41:56 <Ysjoelfir> morning, wrench
19:43:45 <Halcyon> Monkey wrench?
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20:07:11 <Ysjoelfir> tired.
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20:28:01 <Halcyon> How are you Ampera?
20:28:08 <Ampera> awake
20:28:13 <Ampera> it's moist outside
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21:05:34 <jaymax> Happy perpetual legacy-systems support day! 😔
21:05:35 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/c46a69d1-32b3-40bd-8075-54501ed45b1b/zKoRtv7eTRmquSOEcOD46A.jpg
21:06:18 <Ampera> is that thinkstation making you think any harder?
21:06:31 <jaymax> No
21:06:37 <Ampera> well
21:06:39 <Ampera> then good morning
21:07:07 <jaymax> It also lacks the ability to give me Think Vision either.
21:07:53 <jaymax> I rather call it blind rage.
21:10:07 <jaymax> Using SAP extracts (system deprecated two years ago) to use an Oracle SQR (me nub about that) to feed it into PeopleSoft (system deprecated twelve years ago). Everything mentioned here is still required to be done on a bi-weekly basis.
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21:11:57 <Ampera> This is what I love the most about Windows. Everywhere it's used, it's just absolutely caked in shit so ancient you can smell it when you're dead.
21:12:26 <Ampera> all barely tamed by some bullshit mumbo jumbo script some asshole who doesn't work here anymore wrote 5 years ago in a runic tongue
21:12:47 <Ampera> I'm sure the same is true for Unix if you go looking.
21:13:30 * jaymax remembers when the calculator of Windows 98 was the same calculator from windows 2.0
21:13:52 <jaymax> Ampera: probably worse for Unix
21:14:52 <jaymax> But why "fix" something that hasn't been broken for three decades?
21:14:59 <Ampera> I think it's part of why so many companies are jumping ship to Linux. Our software used to be balls deep into proper .NET Framework stuff, now we can't move to .NET core fast enough
21:15:17 <Ampera> Why clean up cat vomit when it's just gonna harden into something you can pry off later?
21:15:29 <jaymax> Lol
21:15:47 <Ampera> and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you buy floors coated in PTFE
21:16:22 <jaymax> IT staff here finally changed the default browser from IE to Chrome Edge.
21:16:40 <jaymax> But now they want to purge IE from existence.
21:16:52 <Ampera> we haven't used a microsoft browser since I've worked here.
21:17:07 <Ampera> We used to test our web stuff on IE/Firefox/Chrome, now it's all just Chrome.
21:17:33 <jaymax> We still use SharePoint 2010 here, and there are functions within SP2010 that crashes Edge, but not IE.
21:17:44 <jaymax> Cannot fail for failing
21:18:10 <Ampera> I am so glad I was able to largely avoid that period in tech, where everything was broken unless you could manage to get IE's shit together long enough to load a fucking webpage
21:18:15 <Ampera> and god help you if you were running windows server
21:19:18 * jaymax thinks Canada fucked up their operational healthcare worse than HMOs do.
21:19:50 <jaymax> Which apparently that's quite a feat in of itself.
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23:06:49 <electrohead> o/
23:07:01 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:07:05 <Ampera> how are you doing sparkleman?
23:07:23 * electrohead hugs his favorite asshole
23:07:27 <electrohead> lmfao.
23:07:35 <electrohead> hey dude
23:07:51 <electrohead> good, just waking up, bla bla
23:07:53 <electrohead> you?
23:08:22 <Ampera> I got out of bed around 3.5 hours ago, but I'm now just about starting to wake up
23:08:31 <Ampera> it's grey soup outside
23:12:23 * electrohead points at the sun
23:12:25 <electrohead> not for me
23:12:39 <electrohead> now last night at around 2 am, it was different
23:12:51 <Ampera> Well good for you, you Carolingian miniscule.
23:12:55 <Ampera> *minescule
23:13:06 <Ampera> u
23:13:14 <Ampera> that word is annoying
23:19:27 <electrohead> don't use it then?
23:19:29 <electrohead> :p
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23:21:24 <arch> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/608/351/c93.gif
23:23:01 <electrohead> rofl.
23:23:34 <Ampera> electrohead, I don't even understand the concept of minuscule
23:23:42 <Ampera> it doesn't exist in my universe
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23:24:18 <electrohead> the circuits in your CPU(s) are minuscule
23:24:28 <electrohead> ?
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