// #sydney — 2014-12-11
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00:06:00 <katatonic_kate01> and then!
00:07:00 <screwss> lol
00:07:00 <screwss> bored_kate
00:08:00 <katatonic_kate01> sleepy
00:09:00 <screwss> why do girls have a soft spot for real arrogant cunts
00:09:00 <katatonic_kate01> no idea
00:10:00 <katatonic_kate01> i certainly don't.
00:10:00 <Lumeah> Dunno.. Tell me
00:10:00 <Lumeah> Its fucked
00:10:00 <screwss> because girls are ruled by evolution
00:11:00 <screwss> its like saying why are there tornadoes
00:11:00 <screwss> it just is
00:11:00 <matrix> screwss it has nothing to do with evolution
00:11:00 <katatonic_kate01> no, not really.
00:11:00 <matrix> the bad boys are exciting
00:11:00 <screwss> way the warth works
00:11:00 <matrix> the nice guys are boring
00:11:00 <matrix> thats all there is to it
00:11:00 <screwss> cause the bad boys have the right seed to pass onto the next genration
00:11:00 <matrix> they want the excitement the bad boys bring
00:11:00 <katatonic_kate01> vomits
00:11:00 <matrix> IF you could combine that excitement, with the caring of a nice guy
00:11:00 <Hanky> What's going on around here?
00:11:00 <matrix> then you'd have the perfect man
00:12:00 <screwss> actually its interesting
00:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> yeah, but you can only live on that 'high' for so long. Then you get over it
00:12:00 <Hanky> You can but there are very few of us out there
00:12:00 <screwss> because thats also the reason why theres so much domestic violence
00:12:00 <matrix> IF you had all the caring and nurturing of a nice guy
00:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> the reason there is so much DV, is due to power and control issues
00:12:00 <matrix> mixed with that excitement of a bad boy
00:12:00 <matrix> bang - perfect man might exist
00:12:00 <matrix> but it doesnt happen
00:12:00 <screwss> because all nature cares about is that the right seed gets passed along, meaning, the woman doesnt care if she gets hit as long as the guys confident and all of that business
00:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> no it's not like that at all!
00:12:00 <screwss> im talk about why women get with those knids of men in the first place
00:13:00 <matrix> well how is it Kate
00:13:00 <screwss> when they have a choice or at least it seems like they have a choice
00:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> self esteem issues
00:13:00 <matrix> I am going on what real women have actually told me
00:13:00 <Kynetic> "real women"
00:13:00 <Kynetic> lol.
00:13:00 <matrix> yeah Kynetic I know a few lol
00:13:00 <Kynetic> as opposed to fake ones?
00:13:00 <Hanky> You're a human and I know you want to simplify things as your kind does
00:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> I'm going on the fact that I work with women who have experienced DV
00:13:00 <Hanky> It's not so black and white
00:14:00 <screwss> i dont think all those women just have low self esteem
00:14:00 <Kynetic> i had some prick who lives up the road from me come threaten me today because he reckons i speed up and down the street
00:14:00 <Kynetic> mind you he was drunk at the time, driving a ute with L plates on it.. by himself.
00:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> no, it's a combo of shitty childhoods
00:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> mental health
00:14:00 <matrix> screwss: Kate has a point There is only so many times you can be beaten down
00:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> financial issues
00:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> drug addiction
00:14:00 <matrix> before you cant get back up
00:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> exactly
00:14:00 <matrix> Sam, my ex, has walls and barriers she doesnt know how to get around because of abuse
00:14:00 <Kynetic> mental health is such a huge issue that isnt being dealt with properly.
00:15:00 <katatonic_kate01> there is a breaking point when the woman or man goes, yeah i've had enough of this situation and realises that they deserve better
00:15:00 <Kynetic> at least in australia we're miles ahead of america.
00:15:00 <matrix> and no amount of psych visits help atm
00:15:00 <screwss> why do some women stay with the man until theyre dead
00:15:00 <Kynetic> america doesnt have a gun problem.
00:15:00 <Hanky> It's life, it's too complicated to sum it all up in a brief oversimplification
00:15:00 <katatonic_kate01> yes it does actually matrix
00:15:00 <Kynetic> they have a mental health problem
00:15:00 <matrix> Kate: doesnt with Sam ... well not so far anyway
00:15:00 <matrix> everyone is different though
00:15:00 <screwss> women are weird
00:15:00 <katatonic_kate01> well she probably didn't have the right kind of mental health supports
00:16:00 <screwss> if they like a guy they will die before they ask him out. and if they are with an abusive guy sometimes they will stay until they are literally beaten to death
00:16:00 <katatonic_kate01> and she may have needed several support systems
00:16:00 <matrix> screwss: sometimes when you're beaten down so much you dont have the strength to leave
00:16:00 <matrix> it starts with the fear of what will happen when you leave
00:16:00 <Kynetic> i would guess they feel trapped
00:16:00 <Kynetic> ie if they leave theyll have nothing
00:16:00 <katatonic_kate01> have a look at the DV cycle
00:16:00 <matrix> and then it's "how can I survive on my own"
00:16:00 <Kynetic> and be destitute
00:16:00 <matrix> to not even feeling human
00:16:00 <matrix> the abusive partner twists and turns things
00:16:00 <katatonic_kate01> exactly
00:16:00 <matrix> makes it feel like it is your fault that you are being abused
00:17:00 <milk> Who cares?
00:17:00 <Kynetic> i mean. so he beats me.. but he still loves me.. right?
00:17:00 <Kynetic> he beats me because he loves me!
00:17:00 <matrix> that no one else out there would be any better
00:17:00 <Kynetic> thats the rationalisation i guess they must get to
00:17:00 <matrix> that he / she is the best you will get
00:17:00 <milk> Women hate
00:17:00 <matrix> its not just women
00:17:00 <matrix> men get abused too
00:17:00 <matrix> I know that first hand
00:18:00 <matrix> they twist and turn the words around, make it feel like its your fault, make you believe they are the best you will get, all the time breaking your spirit, beating you down
00:18:00 <milk> Women take drugs and hate everyone and everything because the are hooked
00:18:00 <Kynetic> the number of men who are abused by women are like 0.00001% of the number of women who are abused by men.
00:18:00 <matrix> making you feel less and less like a person
00:18:00 <Hanky> It's always doom and gloom when I come on here
00:18:00 <matrix> you become just a shell of who you were, and even if you leave
00:18:00 <Kynetic> DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
00:18:00 <katatonic_kate01> well don't come here hanky
00:18:00 <matrix> not follows you
00:18:00 <Kynetic> we're all fucking DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED
00:18:00 <katatonic_kate01> you've got a choice
00:18:00 <matrix> it follows you
00:18:00 <matrix> you start to feel numb
00:18:00 <matrix> feel nothing
00:18:00 <matrix> looking for ways to feel again
00:18:00 <Kynetic> sometimes when i sit on the floor cross legged
00:19:00 <Kynetic> my legs go numb
00:19:00 <Kynetic> its fucking annoying.
00:19:00 <matrix> cutting yourself just so you can feel something
00:19:00 <Hanky> Pineapples taste delicious
00:19:00 <matrix> self abusing just to get rid of that numb feeling
00:19:00 <Kynetic> Hanky i have a pineapple plant!
00:19:00 <katatonic_kate01> self harm is usually associated with sexual abuse
00:19:00 <Kynetic> i grew it from a pineapple top
00:19:00 <katatonic_kate01> in early childhood
00:19:00 <Hanky> I have a few :D
00:19:00 <Kynetic> its been going for nearly 2 years now
00:19:00 <Kynetic> should start growing some pups soon i hope
00:19:00 <milk> Its simple dude, give a women money so she can buy drugs and you can fuck her
00:19:00 <matrix> katE: icomes from a few sources, but I get what you said
00:19:00 <matrix> it comes*
00:20:00 <Kynetic> i like milk
00:20:00 <Kynetic> milk knows how it is
00:20:00 <matrix> sometimes you end up looking forward to the abuse
00:20:00 <matrix> just so you feel something
00:20:00 <Hanky> Milk is delicious
00:20:00 <matrix> because the emotional abuse has destroyed your ability to feel
00:20:00 <Kynetic> i cant get enough of milk
00:20:00 <matrix> running isnt an option
00:20:00 <Kynetic> i drink it straight from the carton
00:20:00 <katatonic_kate01> well, that's how it's described
00:21:00 <milk> Dudes join gangs so they can get money
00:21:00 <katatonic_kate01> it's desensitisation to traumatic events
00:21:00 <katatonic_kate01> in early childhood
00:21:00 <milk> Money buys drugs and sex
00:21:00 <Kynetic> i grew up with my uncle running a dairy farm
00:21:00 <Hanky> I drank 2l of milk yesterday, good stuff
00:21:00 <Kynetic> so i am addicted to milk
00:21:00 <katatonic_kate01> and the 'child' brain not being able to process what is happening
00:21:00 <matrix> kate: yeah, as I said, get that, but a lot of this cant be found in a text book
00:21:00 <Kynetic> there is nothing like milk fresh from the cow
00:21:00 <katatonic_kate01> basically....
00:21:00 <matrix> Everything I said, is my own experience
00:21:00 <katatonic_kate01> matrix, it's all in text books
00:21:00 <Hanky> Goats milk is awesome too
00:21:00 <Kynetic> never tried it
00:22:00 <Kynetic> ive eaten goat
00:22:00 <Kynetic> but not tried the milk
00:22:00 <Kynetic> is it creamier or something?
00:22:00 <Hanky> It's good stuff
00:22:00 <Hanky> It's different, hard to explain
00:22:00 <matrix> Kate: you misunderstood what I said, The real world is not a text book. The books can give you certain statistical evidence, but it is not the real world
00:22:00 <Kynetic> i wonder what goat cooked in goats milk would be like
00:22:00 <matrix> every person is different
00:22:00 <matrix> everyone responds differently
00:22:00 <katatonic_kate01> well...
00:23:00 <matrix> What I spilled out was my own experience
00:23:00 <matrix> the way I responded to abuse
00:23:00 <katatonic_kate01> there is a shit tonne of evidence to support your story
00:23:00 <katatonic_kate01> and yes, your experience is different
00:23:00 <katatonic_kate01> however, you're not alone and a lot of DV cases
00:23:00 <lusus_naturae> kay kay
00:24:00 <katatonic_kate01> are a result of trauma experienced in early chidhood
00:24:00 <screwss> i wonder if i be abusive to this girl i like
00:24:00 <katatonic_kate01> you wouldn't enter a shitty relationship, if you had a 'normal' earlychildood
00:24:00 <screwss> ill be able to get into her good graces
00:24:00 <screwss> nah. i know this bitch whos from a really wealthy family and she is attracted to homeless bums more than anyone else
00:24:00 <screwss> believe it or not
00:24:00 <katatonic_kate01> i.e. decent role models in your life that have healthy relationships
00:24:00 <matrix> brb
00:24:00 <lx> 1,0 Hurry back1,0 matrix...
00:24:00 <screwss> like the fkn drug dealers on the street
00:25:00 <katatonic_kate01> why is that?
00:25:00 <katatonic_kate01> because she probably had no attention from her parental units
00:25:00 <katatonic_kate01> so she went looking for excitement and place to belong
00:25:00 <katatonic_kate01> this is all dr phil type shit peeps
00:25:00 <lusus_naturae> what do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
00:25:00 <katatonic_kate01> ?
00:25:00 <lusus_naturae> nothin, you already done told her twice!
00:26:00 <katatonic_kate01> LOL
00:26:00 <katatonic_kate01> terrible!
00:26:00 <Hanky> Nice work
00:26:00 <lusus_naturae> on topic though
00:26:00 <katatonic_kate01> yes...
00:26:00 <lusus_naturae> it's like rape
00:26:00 <lusus_naturae> nothing's funny about rape
00:26:00 <lusus_naturae> unless you're raping a clown
00:26:00 <lusus_naturae> then it's fucking hillarious
00:27:00 <katatonic_kate01> *attempts not to laughs*
00:27:00 <Hanky> Everything starts off with the governments lack of support for mental health, and the complete lack of awareness
00:27:00 <katatonic_kate01> yeah good luck with making a systemic change there
00:27:00 <lusus_naturae> don't blame the government
00:28:00 <Hanky> If we spent the billions from the drug war on free psycological services and drug rehabilitation there would be a much smaller problem
00:28:00 <katatonic_kate01> They recognise shit…. the new buzz word is 'trauma informed care'
00:28:00 <lusus_naturae> if people cared about mental health issues then a government that also cared about them would be elected
00:28:00 <katatonic_kate01> there would be hank, sure
00:28:00 <katatonic_kate01> mental health care plans = 10 sessions per year
00:28:00 <Hanky> I know
00:28:00 <katatonic_kate01> and sometimes you can squeeze a few more out
00:29:00 <Hanky> You used to be able to get 18
00:29:00 <katatonic_kate01> indeed
00:29:00 <Hanky> It's 10 and only 10 now
00:29:00 <katatonic_kate01> well, no you can get extra in exceptional circumstances
00:29:00 <katatonic_kate01> there are lots of ways to get around it
00:29:00 <katatonic_kate01> you just have to know the system
00:29:00 <milk> Junkies will just take as much as they can regardless of how much the gov spends
00:29:00 <katatonic_kate01> different areas of support if you've been diagnosed with xyz
00:30:00 <katatonic_kate01> Junkies are a whole different kettle of fish
00:30:00 <screwss> this pick up artist called julien blanc uses that DV chart as a check list
00:30:00 <Hanky> Diagnosis is only there for the government, labelling is no benefit to the person
00:30:00 <katatonic_kate01> of course
00:30:00 <Hanky> And the DSM is based from fiction not fact
00:31:00 <katatonic_kate01> well...
00:31:00 <screwss> http://i2.wp.com/sharonbigg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-06-at-4.11.48-pm.png
00:31:00 <katatonic_kate01> it's fact
00:31:00 <Hanky> It's opinion and theory, not fact* Sorry
00:31:00 <milk> All the money put into mental health gets put in the pockets of people who sell drugs
00:31:00 <katatonic_kate01> well, it's what the medical profession use….
00:31:00 <katatonic_kate01> based on a lot of research - not saying that it's correct
00:31:00 <Hanky> And it's complete bullshit
00:31:00 <katatonic_kate01> it's what's used
00:32:00 <katatonic_kate01> well it's what's being used
00:32:00 <katatonic_kate01> so deal with it
00:32:00 <screwss> raping clown, lol
00:33:00 <Hanky> Sigh, you really don't know how to have a discussion
00:33:00 <katatonic_kate01> I do - i just don't think pulling apart the DSM actually changes anything
00:34:00 <Hanky> It does and it doesn't in a way
00:34:00 <katatonic_kate01> so take away the DSM
00:34:00 <katatonic_kate01> then what?
00:34:00 <milk> I'm sick of dickhead soldiers who fuck Arab prostitutes and tell me who I can and can't fuck
00:34:00 <Hanky> Then more psycologists are hired
00:34:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
00:34:00 <screwss> i cant believe ill be 50 yrs old in 20 more years wtf.
00:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> who can't prescribe ANYTHING apart from oh go do a few mindfulness exercises
00:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> sometimes there is a chemical imbalance that needs medication
00:35:00 <Hanky> Well, there is no evidence to prove that
00:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> excuse me
00:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> um
00:36:00 <screwss> oh here we go
00:36:00 <katatonic_kate01> ok then….
00:36:00 <matrix> back
00:36:00 <matrix> did I miss much
00:36:00 <katatonic_kate01> no
00:37:00 <matrix> good
00:38:00 <screwss> do you have facebook
00:39:00 <katatonic_kate01> who?
00:41:00 <matrix> Facebook is evil
00:41:00 <milk> I think the government should give aids patients lethal injection s using cocaine addicts
00:42:00 <Hanky> I don't want to crush your beliefs kate but there is a lot of false information out there in the mental health field, the facts are out there and you will be truely enlightened when you find them
00:42:00 <katatonic_kate01> well Hanky, you can take on the whole medical establishment
00:43:00 <matrix> Hanky: there is false information on every topic
00:43:00 <katatonic_kate01> I'm not taking on that argument
00:43:00 <matrix> but I can tell you from my personal experience, kate is spot on with most things
00:43:00 <matrix> there are some variations, but she knows what she is talking about
00:43:00 <katatonic_kate01> when there are literally bazillions of research papers, and a huge fucking pharmacological industry
00:43:00 <katatonic_kate01> drugs are there
00:43:00 <katatonic_kate01> doctors prescribe
00:44:00 <katatonic_kate01> is that always 'best practice' to do that - no
00:44:00 <katatonic_kate01> are there other alternatives, sure
00:44:00 <katatonic_kate01> when someone is having a psychotic episode…. what do you suggest - give them a fucking lolly pop
00:44:00 <milk> I think junkies should pay at least $5 for drugs
00:44:00 <katatonic_kate01> get with the program and step into reality!
00:44:00 <screwss> you
00:45:00 <screwss> if someones having a headache you take a panadol
00:45:00 <screwss> if someones having a depressive episode you give him a prozac
00:45:00 <lusus_naturae> I love fucking lolly pops
00:45:00 <screwss> or her, but men suffer from depression way more than women
00:45:00 <matrix> Sam would be screwed without her mood altering medication. She is bipolar
00:45:00 <lusus_naturae> if I have to fake a seizure to get one I'd do it I love them so much
00:45:00 <matrix> she could not live a normal life without the meds
00:46:00 <matrix> shes bad enough on them
00:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> well… that's debatable
00:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> however, drugs silence peeps. I love them.
00:46:00 <lusus_naturae> my missus is one some new breastfeeding contraceptive pill
00:46:00 <Hanky> I live more aware than most kate, I am completely realistic. I form my opinions from lots of personal experience with drugs, mental health and psycotherapy.
00:46:00 <matrix> Kate: I've known her for over 10 years, seen her on them and off them
00:46:00 <lusus_naturae> she was fuckin psycho before that
00:46:00 <lusus_naturae> now she's super fuckin psycho
00:46:00 <screwss> women have a much better way of handling bad emotions. theyre better at being in the moment
00:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> Oh, a lived experience. HERE WE FUCKING GO
00:46:00 <milk> What if someone is having a psychotic episode, and everyone is so impressed they start shooting up heroin
00:47:00 <milk> ?
00:47:00 <katatonic_kate01> obviously if you have a 'lived' experience with mental health and in and out of psych wards you're going to be bias…
00:47:00 <katatonic_kate01> Take it up with the medical peeps, not me.
00:47:00 <katatonic_kate01> I'm not a doctor
00:47:00 <matrix> just saying my situation
00:47:00 <matrix> not judging everyone
00:47:00 <Hanky> I'm not going to participate further because your mind isn't open to anything but your own preconcieved ideas and I understand that that is not something I'm going to change
00:48:00 <matrix> there are a lot of doctors that through medication at ppl that dont need it
00:48:00 <matrix> that is true
00:48:00 <matrix> some do need it unfortunately
00:48:00 <matrix> believe me, Sam would rather not be on the meds
00:49:00 <milk> I mean, is it really the guy who gets to sleep Early's fault if junkies are all nasty to each other and can't get the needle out of their arm?
00:49:00 <Kynetic> Hanky lets talk about curries instead
00:49:00 <matrix> milk: there is a difference between the junkies and genuine pyshcological conditions
00:49:00 <Hanky> Thai curries are my favorite kind
00:49:00 <Hanky> Simple, fresh flavors
00:50:00 <Hanky> Every ingredient is equally balanced and disguingishable
00:50:00 <milk> Acute polymorphic psychotic disorder is not shooting coke
00:50:00 <Kynetic> Hanky same!
08:07:00 <chips> lol
08:07:00 <Ana_Ng> Martens
08:07:00 <Ana_Ng> pls
10:23:00 <Pete> brb going too get some toast
10:23:00 <lx> 1,0 Hurry back1,0 Pete...
10:24:00 <Pete> might make me feel alittle better
11:14:00 <yoda> 8-)
11:29:00 <yoda> jingle bells
11:29:00 <Wookie> jingle balls
14:22:00 <katatonic_kate01> Hey peeps
14:33:00 <yoda> lol
15:29:00 <chookmagnet> `confirm
15:29:00 <chookmagnet> `confirm #sydney chookmagnet
15:29:00 <matrix> hey chooky
15:29:00 <chookmagnet> `confirm chookmagnet
15:29:00 <Wookie> lol chooky try `confirm chookmagnet
15:29:00 <chookmagnet> hello
15:29:00 <Wookie> thats beter
15:30:00 <chookmagnet> yeah been a long week
15:30:00 <Wookie> im the same
15:30:00 <chookmagnet> had a problem monday night
15:30:00 <yoda> expansion of the mug empire
15:30:00 <Wookie> i woke up at 5;15 thi smorn
15:30:00 <chookmagnet> was awake until 2 am
15:30:00 <chookmagnet> then awake at 4
15:30:00 <Wookie> :S like omg babe you not oging to work today
15:30:00 <matrix> thats an early start Wookie
15:30:00 <Wookie> yep hes been getting up at 5 am
15:31:00 <Wookie> yah hes working 14 hr shifts atm
15:31:00 <chookmagnet> late finish
15:31:00 <matrix> ouch
15:31:00 <Wookie> it was 9 last night
15:31:00 <chookmagnet> made $10 for 7 hours work
15:31:00 <Wookie> so my body clock is set to 5 am now
15:31:00 <chookmagnet> which would normally take 1 hour
15:31:00 <Wookie> holy shit that was close by
15:32:00 <yoda> just $10 ?
15:32:00 <chookmagnet> I live under Bankstown airport flight path
15:32:00 <chookmagnet> yeah just $10 for 2 mugs
15:32:00 <Wookie> ouch chookie
15:32:00 <chookmagnet> I'm an artist not a trained designer would has the paperwork to charge $$$
15:33:00 <chookmagnet> I take my aggresion out at the private jet that keeps buzzing the house every so often
15:33:00 <chookmagnet> yes
15:33:00 <chookmagnet> here we go
21:12:00 <Exo> hello glenn ;)
21:13:00 <Exo> home from work ? :)
21:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> sure am
21:14:00 <Exo> haha am i invited?
21:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> hi Glenn
21:16:00 <Exo> i just need a run through
21:16:00 <Exo> :P
21:23:00 <katatonic_kate01> i'mloving this rain!
21:24:00 <Hanky> It was good, it came around at about midday
21:24:00 <Hanky> Wait, that was yesterday, lol
21:24:00 <Exo> haha i know
21:24:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
21:24:00 <Exo> was just kiddingz
21:25:00 <Exo> how many passengers can a hovercraft fit
21:28:00 <Exo> haha no fatties then
21:34:00 <Exo> lol best keep em on the ground
21:35:00 <Sunbeam> hi everyone :)
21:35:00 <Hanky> hi
21:35:00 <Sunbeam> hi Hanky
21:35:00 <Exo> hello sunbeam :-)
21:35:00 <Sunbeam> hi Exo :)
21:36:00 <Exo> long time no see
21:36:00 <Sunbeam> wow look at that looooong list over there ---->
21:36:00 <Exo> how have u been
21:36:00 <Sunbeam> it has been a while..hasn't it?
21:36:00 <Sunbeam> i've been good thanks, how have you been?
21:37:00 <Exo> fine thanks
21:37:00 <Sunbeam> that's good to hear
21:37:00 <Exo> havent seen u around in awhile
21:37:00 <Exo> how goes the origami
21:37:00 <Sunbeam> have been around lots...just forgot to come in here lol
21:38:00 <Exo> hehe fair enough
21:38:00 <Sunbeam> it's going great....made a few small 3D christmas trees, and a couple of 3D snowflakes so far
21:38:00 <Sunbeam> but busy knitting the nativity
21:39:00 <Sunbeam> still got to sew and stuff the wise men an shepherds
21:39:00 <Exo> wow
21:39:00 <Exo> can i see when your done ?
21:39:00 <Sunbeam> sure
21:39:00 <Sunbeam> once it's all finished gonna put pictures on FB
21:39:00 <Exo> really liked the swans u made last time
21:40:00 <FOBZTA> Heads
21:40:00 <Sunbeam> hi FOBZTA
21:40:00 <Sunbeam> ty Exo
21:40:00 <FOBZTA> Sup
21:40:00 <Sunbeam> nowt sup ere...sup wi you? lol
21:41:00 <FOBZTA> Downloading
21:42:00 <Immutable> this is how you people enjoy conversation?
21:42:00 <Sunbeam> hello Immutable
21:43:00 <Sunbeam> you want to choose a topic?
21:43:00 <Immutable> Hi Sunbeam I'm just frustrated at how people generally talk to each other.
21:43:00 <FOBZTA> You care
21:43:00 <Sunbeam> in here in general?
21:43:00 <Immutable> in general
21:44:00 <Immutable> it's always the kids with the ant size brains that are the first to criticise people who have genuine conversations.
21:44:00 <Immutable> I think they perceive it as some kind of threat.
21:44:00 <FOBZTA> Ants in your pants
21:44:00 <Sunbeam> well...being a bloody pom, i can talk a glass eye to sleep
21:45:00 <Sunbeam> and i can waffle shit as good as the rest of them lol
21:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> LOL
21:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> that's hilarious!
21:45:00 <Sunbeam> what is? lol
21:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> talking a glass eye to sleep
21:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> love it
21:46:00 <Sunbeam> my hubby came up with that
21:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> i can't believe how wet this summer has been
21:46:00 <Sunbeam> he also says i can talk the hind leg off a donkey
21:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> muggy + wet now cold
21:46:00 <Exo> rain drops are falling on my head
21:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> LOL!!
21:46:00 <Hanky> Still drier than average kate
21:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> really
21:46:00 <Sunbeam> we have winter sunshine atm...but 20 mins ago it was hailing
21:46:00 <Hanky> Yup
21:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> well there ya go
21:46:00 <Exo> haha im gonna steal those Sunbeam
21:46:00 <Hanky> Driest year in 16 years
21:46:00 <Exo> squeeze it into a convo sometime
21:46:00 <Sunbeam> i'm sure it's going to snow today, i can feel it in my bones
21:47:00 <Sunbeam> steal away Exo
21:47:00 <FOBZTA> I like this weather
21:48:00 <Exo> as long as the weathers good on the weekend
21:48:00 <FOBZTA> I don't chaff to much in the office
21:49:00 <Sunbeam> brb gonna put kettle on
21:49:00 <lx> 1,0 Hurry back1,0 Sunbeam...
21:51:00 <Hanky> lol
21:51:00 <Immutable> sigh
21:51:00 <Immutable> well we've talked about the weather that's the only non-taboo topic
21:51:00 <Pete> Exoselton :]
21:51:00 <Immutable> can I suggest we talk about the weather
21:51:00 <Pete> skeliton lol
21:52:00 <Immutable> ?
21:52:00 <Pete> I had one coffee this morning and since then ive been nodding off :/
21:52:00 <FOBZTA> You need a cup of wooshcha
21:53:00 <Immutable> in this weather
21:53:00 <Pete> lol
21:53:00 <FOBZTA> Nah that's a slap in the face stfu coffee
21:53:00 <Hanky> What's a taboo topic?
21:54:00 <FOBZTA> Caleb's
21:54:00 <Immutable> this convo about coffee is almost taboo
21:54:00 <Immutable> I keep saving it by bringing the topic back to this wet weather
21:55:00 <Immutable> which is also wet
21:55:00 <katatonic_kate01> ya mum is wet
21:55:00 <FOBZTA> Pink pussy
21:55:00 <Pete> back too resting
21:55:00 <Hanky> Lol!
21:55:00 <Hanky> What's with you and peoples mums kat?
21:56:00 <katatonic_kate01> easy?
21:56:00 <katatonic_kate01> they're easy?
21:56:00 <Hanky> You're easy?
21:57:00 <Immutable> I think katatonic_kate01 is trying to troll me I suddently have become a victim of trolling.
21:57:00 <Immutable> woe is me
21:57:00 <Immutable> opers pls do summat
21:57:00 <katatonic_kate01> poor didums
21:57:00 <katatonic_kate01> want a hug?
21:57:00 <Immutable> yes
21:57:00 <Hanky> Better?
21:58:00 <katatonic_kate01> cake!
21:58:00 <katatonic_kate01> cake makes things so much easier to deal with
21:58:00 <Hanky> I haven't had cake in... 7 months?
21:58:00 <Immutable> I'll trade you this cake for a hug then.
21:59:00 <katatonic_kate01> ok
21:59:00 <katatonic_kate01> fair deal if you ask me
22:02:00 <katatonic_kate01> hugs immutable
22:02:00 <katatonic_kate01> my hugs are awesome so you'll feel loved up in 3seconds
22:02:00 <FOBZTA> And a rock hard cock
22:02:00 <Hanky> lol
22:02:00 <katatonic_kate01> i don't have a rock hard cock
22:03:00 <katatonic_kate01> but i wouldn't mind one
22:03:00 <Hanky> I don't atm
22:03:00 <katatonic_kate01> you're 21
22:03:00 <katatonic_kate01> whas the matter with you?
22:03:00 <Hanky> Lol
22:03:00 <Hanky> What do you mean?
22:04:00 <katatonic_kate01> hard cock
22:04:00 <Immutable> I feel the warmth of a thousand suns made of love.
22:04:00 <katatonic_kate01> a young viral man
22:04:00 <katatonic_kate01> see, awesome hug, right?
22:04:00 <Hanky> verile?
22:04:00 <Immutable> exactly
22:04:00 <Hanky> Or virile*
22:05:00 <Hanky> I'm not hard all day, just most of it
22:05:00 <Hanky> lolol
22:05:00 <katatonic_kate01> yep that too
22:05:00 <katatonic_kate01> you're too young for me - next
22:05:00 <Immutable> They should make people with Aids say HIV instead of hi.
22:05:00 <Hanky> lol
22:06:00 <FOBZTA> HIV nice meet you
22:06:00 <katatonic_kate01> :/
22:06:00 <Hanky> I'm so HIV right now
22:06:00 <Hanky> I'm in the clouds
22:06:00 <katatonic_kate01> wear condoms!
22:06:00 <Hanky> I always do
22:06:00 <FOBZTA> Wear Vdoms
22:07:00 <Hanky> >
22:07:00 <Hanky> ?
22:07:00 <Immutable> rofl
22:07:00 <katatonic_kate01> good
22:07:00 <Immutable> HIV to you all.
22:07:00 <katatonic_kate01> and a happy new STI to you too
22:08:00 <Immutable> I'm collecting them.
22:08:00 <katatonic_kate01> lovely
22:08:00 <katatonic_kate01> you're off my xmas fuck list
22:08:00 <Immutable> lol how much would it suck to die from herpes.
22:09:00 <Immutable> ?
22:09:00 <katatonic_kate01> pretty sucky
22:09:00 <Hanky> I don't like to think about sti's
22:09:00 <Hanky> They're fucked
22:10:00 <Immutable> like this weather.
22:10:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
22:10:00 <Hanky> The weather is awesome
22:10:00 <Hanky> I love rain
22:10:00 <katatonic_kate01> same
22:11:00 <Immutable> shit
22:11:00 <katatonic_kate01> i'm loving the rain
22:11:00 <Immutable> I love rain too
22:11:00 <Hanky> Saves me tonnes of water irrigating
22:11:00 <Immutable> I just hate people
22:11:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
22:11:00 <Hanky> go marry rain
22:11:00 <Immutable> no I'm marrying myself
22:11:00 <Immutable> I know I'll always be around.
22:11:00 <katatonic_kate01> good for you
22:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> marriage is just a piece of paper
22:12:00 <Immutable> it's a lot of things
22:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> for a lot of different people
22:12:00 <Hanky> I see it as an artifical restriction
22:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> why?
22:13:00 <Hanky> Lots of people stay together because they're married
22:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> indeed
22:13:00 <Hanky> And only because of marriage
22:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> obligations my dear
22:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> when you're older - you'll understand
22:14:00 <Hanky> I understand but I would never get married unless I was asked to
22:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> you're going to wait for a woman to ask you
22:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> ?
22:14:00 <Hanky> I doubt it is going to happen but yes
22:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> that's a good thing, because a woman isn't going to ask a man
22:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> wel
22:15:00 <katatonic_kate01> maybe, in rare circumstances
22:15:00 <Immutable> just don't get married
22:15:00 <Hanky> My uncle isn't married and has had his partner for 30 years
22:15:00 <Hanky> It seems to work well
22:15:00 <katatonic_kate01> joy
22:15:00 <Immutable> make some excuse up like you're a disposable man or some shit
22:16:00 <chia85> who here is married?
22:17:00 <Sunbeam> i am
22:17:00 <katatonic_kate01> i am
22:17:00 <chia85> how many years?
22:17:00 <Sunbeam> for 30 yrs ..been together for 35
22:18:00 <katatonic_kate01> i've lost count
22:18:00 <katatonic_kate01> 6 i think
22:23:00 <Immutable> nice
22:23:00 <Immutable> how the fuck do you get a job in this city?
22:25:00 <chia85> very easy
22:25:00 <chia85> try hard
22:26:00 <chia85> Sunbeam 30 years???
22:27:00 <Hanky> With lots of experience and/or education Immutable
22:27:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
22:27:00 <katatonic_kate01> aint gonna happen for a 21 year old
22:27:00 <Hanky> Yup
22:28:00 <Hanky> It's why Sydney sucked for me
22:28:00 <katatonic_kate01> oh well
22:28:00 <Hanky> Always doing shit work
22:28:00 <Hanky> I enjoy life now unlike before
22:29:00 <Immutable> where do you live now Hanky ?
22:30:00 <Hanky> A little bit out of Byron Bay
22:30:00 <Hanky> Somewhere rural and quiet
22:32:00 <Immutable> :/
22:33:00 <Hanky> ?
22:33:00 <Hanky> What's everyones favorite pie?
22:33:00 <katatonic_kate01> humble
22:33:00 <Sunbeam> yes chia85 30 years married
22:33:00 <chia85> Hanky where do you llive?
22:33:00 <Immutable> robot
22:34:00 <chia85> fav pie is prob curry
22:34:00 <chia85> curry veg pie
22:34:00 <Exo> huckleberry
22:35:00 <Hanky> humble pie?
22:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> yeah
22:35:00 <Hanky> I love pumpkin pie
22:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> being aware of your mistakes
22:35:00 <katatonic_kate01> blah blah
22:35:00 <chia85> never had pumpkin pie
22:35:00 <chia85> i just had a vegetarian sushi though
22:35:00 <chia85> very nice
22:35:00 <Hanky> I make one every once in a while
22:36:00 <Hanky> With coconut cream
22:36:00 <Hanky> So good
22:36:00 <chia85> seaweed tofu and some pickled seaweed with some capsicum
22:36:00 <katatonic_kate01> ew
22:36:00 <Hanky> That doesn't sound that great
22:36:00 <Hanky> I prefer sashimi
22:36:00 <katatonic_kate01> naw not even
22:37:00 <Hanky> Why don't you like seafood kate?
22:37:00 <Hanky> I like all foods
22:37:00 <katatonic_kate01> just don't like the taste
22:37:00 <katatonic_kate01> i like swordfisg
22:37:00 <katatonic_kate01> barra
22:37:00 <Hanky> Mudcrab?
22:37:00 <katatonic_kate01> but that's bout it
22:37:00 <katatonic_kate01> nope
22:37:00 <katatonic_kate01> yuck
22:37:00 <Hanky> D:
22:43:00 <katatonic_kate01> ?
22:44:00 <chia85> that is perfect sushi
22:44:00 <chia85> a bogan would deny it
22:44:00 <katatonic_kate01> not a fan of seeweed
22:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> teriyaki chicken
22:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> sushi
22:45:00 <katatonic_kate01> thanks
22:46:00 <chia85> its seaweed actually
22:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> sea
22:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> typo
22:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> i'm tired
22:46:00 <Hanky> I'd prefer weed sushi
22:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> ew
22:46:00 <katatonic_kate01> fuckin' stoners
22:46:00 <Hanky> lol, I'm just joking
22:47:00 <Hanky> I'm not a stoner, I only smoke occasionally
22:47:00 <katatonic_kate01> good for you
22:47:00 <chia85> you live near byron bay and you don't smoke weed?
22:48:00 <chia85> we can make a new sushi instead of the seaweed wrap we use weed
22:48:00 <chia85> wushi
22:48:00 <chia85> compressed leaf
22:48:00 <katatonic_kate01> not everyone smokes up thertr
22:48:00 <chia85> very high quality leaf
22:48:00 <chia85> most people do
22:48:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
22:48:00 <katatonic_kate01> leaf
22:48:00 <katatonic_kate01> LOL
22:48:00 <chia85> yes
22:48:00 <katatonic_kate01> why fuckin' bother
22:48:00 <chia85> why wouldnt you? as I said high quality
22:48:00 <katatonic_kate01> yeah… ok then
22:48:00 <chia85> the best weed I ever smoked has been bush
22:49:00 <katatonic_kate01> smoke 'high quality' leaf
22:49:00 <chia85> yes
22:49:00 <chia85> i do all the time
22:49:00 <katatonic_kate01> povo cunt
22:50:00 <Hanky> Cannabis leaf has 70% more tar than tobacco leaf fyi
22:50:00 <Hanky> Only flower should be smoked
22:50:00 <chia85> who cares
22:50:00 <katatonic_kate01> not you, that's for sho
22:50:00 <katatonic_kate01>
22:50:00 <chia85> katatonic_kate01 its not about being povo it's about having good drugs
22:50:00 <katatonic_kate01> yeah, ok
22:50:00 <chia85> well i smoke cigs why would i care
22:50:00 <Hanky> I do but I respect my body
22:51:00 <chia85> its all myth
22:51:00 <chia85> to say a cig is not much worse than some leaf is crazy govt talk
22:51:00 <Hanky> Maybe you'll understand when you die from cancer at the age of 50
22:51:00 <chia85> maybe I will
22:51:00 <Hanky> I'm talking plant for plant
22:51:00 <chia85> but until then im doing just fine
22:52:00 <chia85> pack of cigs last me 1-2 weeks
22:52:00 <Hanky> Tobacco is only bad for you because it is sprayed with lots of pesticides and herbicides when it's grown commercially
22:52:00 <chia85> of course
22:52:00 <chia85> just like weed is
22:53:00 <Hanky> If you had organic tobacco, tar would be your only concern
22:53:00 <chia85> so would weed
22:53:00 <chia85> just get from good source
22:53:00 <chia85> or grow yourself
22:53:00 <Hanky> Whatever man
22:53:00 <chia85> do you like cheese? you should make your own cheese
22:53:00 <Hanky> I like my mind, I don't like running away from it
22:53:00 <chia85> i like my mind too
22:54:00 <katatonic_kate01> i'm vegan so i don't et cheese
22:54:00 <chia85> i dont take drugs to escape my mind
22:54:00 <katatonic_kate01> why do you take them>
22:54:00 <katatonic_kate01> bored?
22:54:00 <chia85> i drank a lot of alcohol afew years ago when i had a bad relationship
22:54:00 <chia85> but thats only time e ver i abused for that
22:54:00 <chia85> no katatonic_kate01 i like the feeling of drugs and being fucked up
22:54:00 <katatonic_kate01> but not to escape your mind
22:54:00 <katatonic_kate01> lol
22:54:00 <katatonic_kate01> yeah good work there
22:54:00 <chia85> you realise a lot of people do not take drugs or alcohol for those reasons
22:55:00 <Hanky> Try meditating some time
22:55:00 <chia85> im not escaping anything im in perfect control
22:55:00 <chia85> i do that too Hanky
22:55:00 <Hanky> It makes me feel awesome
22:55:00 <katatonic_kate01> sure you are
22:55:00 <Hanky> Whatever man, you have your vices. I have mine
22:55:00 <chia85> indeed we do
22:55:00 <chia85> i respect that
22:56:00 <katatonic_kate01> :D
22:57:00 <chia85> katatonic_kate01 you said you like teriyaki chicken sushi? how is that possible being vegan?
22:57:00 <katatonic_kate01> i said i liked it
22:57:00 <katatonic_kate01> i like lots of things
22:57:00 <Hanky> My goats would like me being vegan
22:59:00 <chia85> I do not believe you are vegan
22:59:00 <chia85> how long have you been vegan?
23:00:00 <Hanky> She doesn't really care what you believe
23:00:00 <Hanky> I can't say I do either
23:02:00 <Immutable> Ok I'm back.
23:03:00 <chia85> thats greeat Hanky i dont believe you live in byron bay
23:03:00 <chia85> but keep it up
23:03:00 <Immutable> chia85, be nice to the young man
23:03:00 <Immutable> this is a good channel
23:03:00 <Immutable> this is a clean channel
23:03:00 <Immutable> this is a good clean channel
23:05:00 <Hanky> I like turtles
23:06:00 <Immutable> I like/hate the weather depending on your personal preference for rain.
23:06:00 <Hanky> Lol
23:06:00 <Immutable> I am your best friend.
23:06:00 <Hanky> I bet you are
23:06:00 <Immutable> add me to facebook
23:06:00 <Immutable> to solidify our bestfriendship
23:06:00 <chia85> lol
23:07:00 <Hanky> No thanks
23:07:00 <chia85> what is your facebook Immutable ill add you
23:07:00 <Immutable> https://www.facebook.com/flakeblock
23:07:00 <Immutable> fucken everyone add me
23:07:00 <Lumeah> SpanishGuy12 will add you
23:08:00 <Immutable> I don't have a vajay
23:08:00 <Lumeah> lol
23:08:00 <SpanishGuy12> Cheers Lumeah
23:08:00 <katatonic_kate01> :/
23:08:00 <chia85> SpanishGuy12 hi
23:09:00 <Lumeah> np mate
23:09:00 <chia85> SpanishGuy12 is a young man
23:09:00 <chia85> full of love
23:09:00 <SpanishGuy12> :)
23:09:00 <katatonic_kate01> hola como estas
23:09:00 <Immutable> you haven't added me yet chia85
23:10:00 <katatonic_kate01> are you tall spansh guy?
23:10:00 <SpanishGuy12> 185cm
23:10:00 <Immutable> I don't know who to whip yet katatonic_kate01 ... it's gonna be someone
23:11:00 <Immutable> that's short!
23:11:00 <chia85> katatonic_kate01 may be ready for us all
23:11:00 <katatonic_kate01> not if you're under 30
23:11:00 <chia85> why?
23:12:00 <Immutable> oh shit I've got to make it so randoms can add me
23:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> too young
23:12:00 <Immutable> there we go
23:12:00 <Immutable> fuck
23:12:00 <chia85> how old are you katatonic_kate01?
23:12:00 <katatonic_kate01> 33
23:12:00 <Immutable> HAH!
23:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> :/
23:13:00 <Immutable> katatonic_kate01, is over 9000
23:13:00 <Immutable> something
23:13:00 <chia85> 33 is a great age for sex
23:13:00 <katatonic_kate01> sif
23:13:00 <Immutable> I don't want to say years
23:14:00 <Immutable> that's just mean
23:14:00 <katatonic_kate01> 33 is a great age for sex, yep
23:15:00 <Immutable> in the rain
23:19:00 <Hanky> Sex is fun
23:19:00 <Immutable> sex is a travesty
23:23:00 <Immutable> one must comfortably abstain from sex forever.
23:24:00 <Immutable> or so says my new age alien/hindu/christianity belief system that I just made up 10 secs ago.
23:24:00 <Immutable> you can ask me anything as long as it's craback
23:25:00 <Immutable> and I define what craback is at any given point t
23:25:00 <Immutable> where t is all of time.
23:26:00 <milk> i see
23:30:00 <chia85> sexy fun
23:34:00 <milk> fuck the shitflood
23:35:00 <Immutable> none of this is craback
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