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04:14 <President_Trump> Marttin u should do that with a cigar to the MONSTER
04:56 <Marttin> 2 cigars
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07:48 <Warren1984> someone dressed in a clown suite terrorized me
09:49 <President_Trump> spose u were too stupid to take a pic
20:18 <President_Trump> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785106800572063744
20:20 <President_Trump> lols
22:20 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuVDPwRWAAALLXf.jpg
29:24 <Ripstaa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIJEbweZklA&feature=youtu.be&t=2m14s
29:28 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Top Viral Videos - Part 46 (Sep 17, 2016) Length: 5:59 - Category: People & Blogs - 11,568 views views - likes dislikes
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10:13 <Marttin> that was pasted here before by me
21:48 <Tigger_> so Bill Clinton raped a woman, at least he didn't say sexist things
22:37 <Marttin> he raped 30
24:38 <Tigger_> and to not one of the 30 women he raped did he say anything patriarchal while he was raping them
29:35 <Tigger_> while Bill was raping them he was saying "A woman can do anything a man can, for equal pay."
31:50 <Marttin> xDDD
59:11 <Warren1984> did he make a todo list of women to rape?
03:40 <Marttin> lol
03:59 <Marttin> anything is possible, he might had a preference
09:40 <Tigger_> Bill had a raping SOP. Materials: knife, gag, handcuffs, viagra, rohypnol
12:05 <Warren1984> lol
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33:41 <godypool> Hmm
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59:41 <pooparrot> pied penis
06:11 <pooparrot> prepare for panic when i unleash, niggas be lucky if they leave here in one piece
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56:05 <Oriole> ROUND 2
41:12 <xm> http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/10/08/leaked-emails-show-trump-tool-used-hillary-campaign-day-one/
41:46 <xm> im late to the show
41:48 <xm> but this is nuts
42:03 <Tigger_> Red State is an extremely cuck site, were always opposed to Trump
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38:16 <Oriole> 'why don't you interrupt her'?
38:38 <Warren1984> hi all
41:59 <Tigger_> hello Warren1984, Oriole
42:46 <Oriole> yo
43:00 <Oriole> took a while for Trump to get going but he is in the game
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51:32 <Oriole> how bout the fat muslim?
59:15 <Oriole> what about the war crimes perpetrated by Obama?
02:59 <Tigger_> unfortunately I missed it all, I'll download the entire thing when it's finished
05:20 <Oriole> and now the moderator is debating Trump on Syria
13:11 <Oriole> Hillary just mentioned the Trump effect
13:40 <Ripstaa> KITLER
17:47 <Warren1984> Tigger_ at 8pm I went for a 1hr walk but didn't see any clowns
18:02 <Tigger_> they were behind you
19:08 <Tigger_> A woman claiming she hit a pedestrian wearing a clown suit and a man scaring teenage girls are among a spate of creepy clown reports police in Western Australia have recently received.
19:08 <Tigger_> In one incident, a 19-year-old man allegedly chased a group of teenage girls while dressed as a clown in the main shopping district of Northam, east of Perth, on Saturday night.
19:08 <Tigger_> Police said the scared teenagers were chased about 700 metres down Fitzgerald Street to the Northam police station on Gairdner Street.
20:25 <Tigger_> Warren1984's favourite song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs
20:29 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Insane Clown Posse - Miracles (Official Music Video) (Apr 6, 2010) Length: 4:22 - Category: Music - 17,074,707 views views - 81,134 likes (42.1%), 111,423 dislikes (57.9%)
26:23 <Oriole> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni3bPWH5tFg
26:27 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Day Today (Gansta Rap Spoof) (Jan 18, 2009) Length: 1:38 - Category: Music - 8,853 views views - 38 likes (95%), 2 dislikes (5%)
29:03 <Warren1984> Oriole Tigger_ enjoys creating ideas and theories and I enjoy proving or disproving them
29:41 <Tigger_> Warren1984, are you a juggalo?
29:52 <Warren1984> what is that Tigger_?
29:57 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zDjnDAwmig
30:01 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Roy Orbison- You Got It (HQ) (May 1, 2012) Length: 3:30 - Category: Music - 1,898,268 views views - 9,293 likes (98%), 193 dislikes (2%)
30:09 <Tigger_> someone who dresses like a clown and likes rap
30:15 <Oriole> <Warren1984> Oriole Tigger_ enjoys creating ideas and theories and I enjoy proving or disproving them ????
31:01 <Warren1984> yes Oriole
32:27 <Tigger_> today I made my single biggest film download, 40Gb
32:50 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xry_ooH9yY0
32:54 <BlackDevil> Youtube: George Harrison - Got My Mind Set On You (Sep 17, 2010) Length: 3:50 - Category: Music - 2,056,371 views views - 8,472 likes (98.4%), 140 dislikes (1.6%)
33:14 <Tigger_> I don't mind Roy Orbison, but George Harrison is a hippy
34:02 <Oriole> Warren1984 I don't invent anything. I put forward and argue for (attempt to prove) my ideas and theories. You have not and cannot disprove anything anyone says because you are inattentive, shallow minded and poorly studied/read
34:39 <Oriole> My ideas and theories are based on well established principles
34:57 <Oriole> That said I am an original thinker, but I don't try to reinvent the wheel.
36:57 <Warren1984> don't care much for theories
37:04 <Warren1984> just care about taking action
37:13 <Oriole> LOL
37:24 <Warren1984> theories are a waste of my time
37:31 <Warren1984> and achieve nothing
37:42 <Oriole> the computer you are now talking on
38:01 <Warren1984> Organized action
38:03 <Oriole> it was built over a period of time by theory, hypothesis, testing
38:27 <Warren1984> why am I shallow minded?
38:37 <Oriole> the meds that you are on, were formulated through theory and experiment, and infact your taking them is all based on theory. you are a lab rat
39:22 <Warren1984> that is methodical
39:37 <Warren1984> trail and error via action
40:28 <Oriole> Warren1984 because you are unable to engage in meaningful interaction. You show time and time again that you are unable to think through the issues. Everything you say is sophomoric and superficial, and is regurgitated mostly from nut bag psychobable websites
41:06 <Oriole> well yes forming a theory is a type of action, a type of process, therefore the dichotomy you present between theory/action is a false one
41:28 <Warren1984> some of what I say is actually true as I have confirmed it with my Psychiatrist
41:53 <Oriole> your witch doctor
42:19 <Oriole> who gets fiflthy rich by keeping you in your chemical lobotomy
42:34 <Warren1984> he is a private Psychiatrist
43:51 <Warren1984> 	
43:51 <Warren1984> ENTPs generally have the following traits:
43:53 <Warren1984> Enjoy generating ideas and theories
44:03 <Warren1984> Enjoy debating issues with other people
44:17 <Oriole> <Warren1984> Oriole Tigger_ enjoys creating ideas and theories and I enjoy proving or disproving them <----Now, about this, a theory, creating an idea, is useless and futile and meaningless if you don't attempt to disprove/approve it. therefore the theory and the testing of the theory go hand in glove
44:40 <Warren1984> INTPs generally have the following traits:
44:42 <Warren1984> INTPs have a special gift with generating and analyzing theories and possibilities to prove or disprove them. They have a great deal of insight and are creative thinkers; this allows them to quickly grasp complex abstract thoughts. They also have exceptional logical and rational reasoning skills, which allows them to thoroughly analyze theories to discover the Truth about them.
44:45 <Oriole> LOL
44:57 <Oriole> here comes the cutting/pasting of your superstition
46:14 <Warren1984> ENTPs are fluent conversationalists, mentally quick, and enjoy verbal sparring with others. They love to debate issues, and may even switch sides sometimes just for the love of the debate. When they express their underlying principles, however, they may feel awkward and speak abruptly and intensely.
47:11 <Warren1984> it's not the right way to do something though
47:31 <Tigger_> I don't think Myers Briggs is necessarily wrong, I just think it's not very testable or repeatable, and doesn't have the academic foundations that Five Factor does
47:51 <Warren1984> the correct way to prove something is the way the INTJ would do it
49:04 <Tigger_> a practicing psychiatrist might use Myers Briggs, but an academic psychiatrist probably wouldn't
49:50 <Oriole> parliament QT on in 5
50:27 <Warren1984> With Introverted Intuition dominating their personality, INTJs focus their energy on observing the world, and generating ideas and possibilities. Their mind constantly gathers information and makes associations about it. They are tremendously insightful and usually are very quick to understand new ideas. However, their primary interest is not understanding a concept, but rather applying
50:27 <Warren1984> that concept in a useful way. Unlike the INTP, they do not follow an idea as far as they possibly can, seeking only to understand it fully. INTJs are driven to come to conclusions about ideas. Their need for closure and organization usually requires that they take some action.
50:48 <Warren1984> Oriole that is the right way to prove something
51:04 <Warren1984> to come to a conclusion, get organized and then take action
02:54 <Warren1984> Oriole let me ask you this, if you keep building knowledge on a theories/ideas when will you know you have enough information?
03:31 <Warren1984> what if opposing information is presented?
04:23 <Warren1984> many times I have been proved wrong... with opposing information that I had not considered
04:46 <Oriole> do you care to make your question a little more specific?
05:24 <Oriole> at any rate, learning is a part of life, and it takes honesty and humility, to look at the facts and adjust your worldview accordingly
05:31 <Oriole> not many folks are capable of this
06:11 <Oriole> and none of us do it perfectly, given our biases
06:18 <Warren1984> well for example a good employer would pay their employees well and find ways to make them comfortable and want to stay with the business
06:40 <Oriole> ?
06:46 <Warren1984> but on the other hand if employers used too much of their money then they would be out of pocket
10:07 <Oriole> ?
11:05 <Warren1984> so the first point is employers should not be stingy with money
11:35 <Warren1984> and the 2nd point is if they are very generous with their money then the company would be out of pocket
12:01 <Warren1984> most employers don't want to spend money on their employees
12:17 <Tigger_> 3 hours to encode this film, times like this I wish I had an i7 CPU
12:24 <Warren1984> 2 conflicting ideas
14:29 <Warren1984> well Oriole?
14:46 <Warren1984> bbl
15:38 <Oriole> well what's your theory?
35:35 <Warren1984> back
35:50 <Warren1984> I think employers shouldn't be stingy with money
36:05 <Warren1984> they should make working for a company more enjoyable
36:18 <Tigger_> that is what Google and other big companies do
36:32 <Tigger_> if the talent is rare, they'll spend a lot of money to get it
36:43 <Warren1984> Oriole sorry for being so argumentative
36:54 <Warren1984> I have to work on being les argumentative
37:03 <Oriole> what on earth does workplace relations have to do with out discussion about your theory/action false-dichotomy?
37:20 <Warren1984> personality types are no where as useful as strategies like this -> http://disability.illinois.edu/improving-memory-and-executive-functioning
37:47 <Warren1984> u lost me there Oriole
38:03 <Oriole> Warren1984 no you have to work on a) what you are arguing for b) how you argue for it. I have no idea what you're talking about
38:18 <Oriole> <Warren1984> INTPs have a special gift with generating and analyzing theories and possibilities to prove or disprove them. They have a great deal of insight and are creative thinkers; this allows them to quickly grasp complex abstract thoughts. They also have exceptional logical and rational reasoning skills, which allows them to thoroughly analyze theories to discover the Truth about them.
38:58 <Oriole> wrong quote, try this:
38:59 <Oriole> <Warren1984> Oriole Tigger_ enjoys creating ideas and theories and I enjoy proving or disproving them
39:19 <Oriole> that is what we were discussing, until you wandered off into workplace relations
39:53 <Warren1984> yeah that was just something I read
40:06 <Warren1984> I just made that up
41:11 <Warren1984> Oriole Tigger_ I was refering to ENTP
41:17 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is not ENTP
41:23 <Warren1984> so I made it up
41:52 <Warren1984> according to that website ENTP's like to generate theories and INTP's enjoy proving or disproving theories
42:22 <Tigger_> but the economic reality of production is that labour costs are often the biggest input, and also where the deepest cuts can be made, whereas other things like raw materials do not have very much price elasticity
44:46 <Oriole> I enjoy both Warren1984
44:50 <Oriole> go figure
45:13 <Oriole> And I don't need to read the stars to find that out about myself
46:16 <Warren1984> enjoy proving, disproving and creating new theories?
46:30 <Oriole> I don't need to pigeonhole myself, by some personality profile, and thus dictate to myself, by the power of suggestion, indeed the power of Satan, what it is that some Jung-like mystic somewhere, somehow thinks about anthropology
46:37 <Warren1984> is that what you are saying Oriole
46:42 <Oriole> yes
47:48 <Oriole> FROM AN HOUR AGO: <Oriole> <Warren1984> Oriole Tigger_ enjoys creating ideas and theories and I enjoy proving or disproving them <----Now, about this, a theory, creating an idea, is useless and futile and meaningless if you don't attempt to disprove/approve it. therefore the theory and the testing of the theory go hand in glove
48:11 <Oriole> which goes to my point, that you don't engage in conversation
48:31 <Oriole> <Oriole> Warren1984 because you are unable to engage in meaningful interaction. You show time and time again that you are unable to think through the issues. Everything you say is sophomoric and superficial, and is regurgitated mostly from nut bag psychobable websites
48:53 <Warren1984> it's better to take action than to make theories, disprove/prove them
49:18 <Warren1984> I don't know what meaningful interaction means
49:40 <Oriole> use a dictionary
50:22 <Oriole> if you don't know what those words mean, or have the willingness to find out, then what ability can you seriously claim to have to prove or disprove theories
50:35 <Oriole> argumentation requires philosophical understanding
50:37 <Oriole> logic
50:41 <Oriole> language
50:44 <Oriole> semantics
51:04 <Oriole> <Warren1984> it's better to take action than to make theories, disprove/prove them <----theorising IS an action
52:01 <Warren1984> physical action?
52:48 <Oriole> is there another kind?
53:04 <Warren1984> theorising is not physical action
53:48 <Oriole> it uses a brain
53:59 <Oriole> is a brain a physical obeject?
54:03 <Oriole> it uses sight
54:07 <Oriole> it uses sound
54:10 <Oriole> touch
54:13 <Oriole> and the other ones
54:15 <Warren1984> is it a physical action that occurs outside of the mind?
54:36 <Warren1984> in a physical place outside the mind?
54:52 <Oriole> nothing occurs in the mind without outside datum
54:53 <Tigger_> this encode looks like it's going to take 5 hours
55:05 <Oriole> what is theory?
55:16 <Tigger_> actually you can have maths and logic entirely in the mind, with no reference to anything external
55:34 <Warren1984> for example if you made a daily todo list... how can you complete them without taking physical action?
56:08 <Tigger_> the brain in a jar theories suggest we could still establish certain knowledge even without any form of sensory input at all
56:46 <Oriole> a to do list is not a theory
56:49 <Oriole> it is a plan
57:10 <Warren1984> taking action creates experience... making mistakes helps us learn from experience
57:13 <Oriole> it all goes to my earlier point, that a theory is only of use if it can be applied and tested
57:27 <Oriole> otherwise it is just thin air
57:27 <Warren1984> a todo list is a form of organization
57:39 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3829887/Leading-Polish-filmmaker-Andrzej-Wajda-died-90.html
57:46 <Tigger_> I had no idea he was still alive
58:01 <Oriole> but no theory is formed without interaction with the real world, otherwise it is just hot air, paranoia, the inner ramblings of a crazy man
58:06 <Warren1984> planning is much more complicated than a todo list
59:00 <Oriole> <Oriole> it is a plan <---not the lack of the article ('the') I said 'a' plan not 'the' plan or 'all' plans.
59:22 <Oriole> <Oriole> it is a plan <---note the lack of the article ('the') I said 'a' plan not 'the' plan or 'all' plans.
59:52 <Tigger_> His movie 'Man of Iron' explored the rise of the anti-communist Solidarity movement.
59:52 <Tigger_> Wajda had once said: 'The good Lord gave the director two eyes - one to look into the camera, the other to be alert to everything that is going on around him.'
02:59 <Oriole> so Warren1984 you have demonstrated once again your poor reasoning skills. I would strongly encourage you to read a book on logic, and specifically a chapter on 'category error'
06:17 <Tigger_> a brain in a jar still has consciousness of cardinality though, even of its own thoughts
07:42 <Oriole> a brain in a jar has no consciousness
08:38 <Tigger_> it has consciousness of time
09:30 <Oriole> a brain requires blood/oxygen to operate
09:33 <Tigger_> in reality a brain needs sensory input to develop, which is why kids born deaf have very low IQs, all other things being equal
09:40 <Oriole> it requires a human spirit
09:41 <Tigger_> the jar is a life support system
10:05 <Oriole> is this a Futurama joke?
10:31 <Tigger_> no, it's a long established proposition in philosophy, which Futurama might be basing its joke on
10:59 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat
14:25 <Tigger_> what the #nevertrump crowd are up to now:
14:26 <Tigger_> More couples these days want to avoid parenthood and embrace life without children.
14:27 <Tigger_> So some are marking the start of their childless families with 'vasectomy parties.'
14:27 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3829664/Forget-baby-showers-Young-couples-celebrate-childless-families-vasectomy-parties.html#ixzz4MeVW70ir
14:27 <Tigger_> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
16:10 <Oriole> so you think a brain in a jar has thoughts?
21:07 <Tigger_> in practical terms, a human brain is designed for sensory input, so such a brain would be exceedingly developmentally deprived, so the thoughts would be very rudimentary, but this does not mean that a brain is inherently dependent upon external stimuli
21:41 <Tigger_> if you had a million brains in a million jars, one brain might prove to be a genius and rise higher than the others
22:07 <Oriole> what a load of crap
22:11 <Tigger_> why?
22:18 <Oriole> spinal cord
22:27 <Oriole> nervous system
22:35 <Oriole> bloodflow
22:47 <Tigger_> well the human brain does have neural cortexes in the spinal cord and also the stomach
22:47 <Oriole> and the departed spirit
23:06 <Tigger_> like I said, the jar is a life support system
23:37 <Tigger_> the particulars of how it supports life are not relevant to the thought experiment
26:34 <Oriole> I wonder what Warren1984 thinks of such a futile thought experiment
26:53 <Tigger_> but a hypothetical genius brain could establish an understanding of maths and logic quite independently of any awareness of our reality or any other hypothetical universe
28:19 <Oriole> but maths is a part of reality
28:27 <Oriole> in reality 2 + 2 = four
29:46 <Oriole> truth is truth
29:53 <Oriole> wherever ir occurs
30:10 <Oriole> speculation over alternate universes is idolatry
30:16 <Tigger_> physical reality is how humans discovered mathematics, as it has practical utility, but take any advanced mathematics class and you'll find that they're not terribly concerned with physical reality, their maths is only in reference to maths
30:34 <Oriole> I understand
31:06 <Oriole> but the foundation of maths, the use of maths, that has meaning and purpose for human life, engages with reality
31:40 <Oriole> otherwise it is nothing but a clanging symbol, and an egocentric fool's errand
31:44 <Tigger_> Gottfried Leibniz was a devout Calvinist who used hypothetical alternate universes to establish the perfect goodness of God
32:08 <Tigger_> in his work Theodicy
32:10 <Oriole> that's nice
32:23 <Oriole> I can do the same with the Word of God
33:07 <Tigger_> his arguments completely destroy many of the common atheist objections to faith
33:26 <Oriole> 1 John 1:5New American Standard Bible (NASB)
33:26 <Oriole> God Is Light
33:26 <Oriole> 5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
33:47 <Tigger_> interesting that he did so before atheism was ever a movement
33:59 <pooparrot> bust a free
34:01 <pooparrot> here i go
34:03 <Oriole> he was an evidentialist?
35:02 <Tigger_> I don't know
36:51 <pooparrot> here i go, with the fearless flow, spilling like tears outta my page yo, the ink venemous with my infernal rage, to your sturnam hollow point tips, theres no sorrow when i spit this shit, not written at all , a savage black bear ravages em all with the war-tactics, my spre of fire rises slyly and tight firing at a fast rate, my desiire is rhymes blasten straight at ya mate
37:08 <pooparrot> spire*
37:18 <pooparrot> aaaaaaahahahaahhahaha
38:09 <Oriole> The answer (according to Leibniz) is that, while God is indeed unlimited in wisdom and power, his human creations, as creations, are limited both in their wisdom and in their will (power to act). This predisposes humans to false beliefs, wrong decisions and ineffective actions in the exercise of their free will. God does not arbitrarily inflict pain and suffering on humans; rather he permits both moral evil (sin) and physical evil (pain
38:09 <Oriole> and suffering) as the necessary consequences of metaphysical evil (imperfection), as a means by which humans can identify and correct their erroneous decisions, and as a contrast to true good.
38:09 <Oriole> Further, although human actions flow from prior causes that ultimately arise in God, and therefore are known as a metaphysical certainty to God, an individual's free will is exercised within natural laws, where choices are merely contingently necessary, to be decided in the event by a "wonderful spontaneity" that provides individuals an escape from rigorous predestination.
40:18 <Tigger_> regarding alternate universes, Christianity was the likely originator of the concept, since there is Heaven and Hell, which are not located anywhere in our universe, unlike pagan religions that posited that Tartarus as an example, had a physical location on Earth
41:38 <Oriole> As a Christian, Leibniz outlined his perfect world theory in his work The Monadology, stating the argument in five parts:
41:38 <Oriole> 1.God has the idea of infinitely many universes.
41:38 <Oriole> 2.Only one of these universes can actually exist.
41:38 <Oriole> 3.God's choices are subject to the principle of sufficient reason, that is, God has reason to choose one thing or another.
41:40 <Oriole> 4.God is good.
41:42 <Oriole> 5.Therefore, the universe that God chose to exist is the best of all possible worlds.[1]
41:44 <Oriole> I like it
43:10 <Oriole> on the other hand God could have created a world with ten continents and two suns and called it 'very good'
43:24 <Oriole> hence the freedom of God
43:42 <Ripstaa> god created the abililty, we created outselves...
43:49 <Oriole> otherwise you end up with a kind of fatalism, which would seem to contradict Leibniz' motivations
44:27 <Tigger_> most stars are binaries, life may not be very ideal with fluctuating radiation intensities on the magnetosphere (something that Earth has, which most planets do not)
44:35 <Ripstaa> there must be a higher god then our creator
44:45 <Ripstaa> than*
44:50 <Ripstaa> imo
45:22 <Tigger_> that is polytheism, which does have gods creating new generations of gods, like the Titans did
45:29 <Ripstaa> polytheism isn't any more strange
46:03 <Ripstaa> i'm not talking bout titans at all tho :)
46:09 <Ripstaa> just sayin...
46:15 <Ripstaa> FUCK THE TITANS! =D
46:31 <Tigger_> the problem with polytheism is that the gods are subject to the experience of time, as they did not create time, whereas a monotheistic god is outside of time, and is the creator of time, so it's a bit of a category error to conflate God with gods
46:54 <Ripstaa> hence why i said
46:58 <Ripstaa> creator and god
47:06 <Ripstaa> b4
47:07 <Ripstaa> =)
47:08 <pooparrot> Let me show you, How a homie from Brisbane blows this, with straight flaming architechture, just need a spark then im destroying sectors, employ the war tactics and enjoy fat bitches, I saw and cut little rat cunts, the tiddlers cant rap at all, not even while blazin blunts, maybe ill make a rap stall, you can purchase the furnace's head turning enturnment, but you cant be burnin while yea learning, my style concerns eternal learning, the
47:11 <pooparrot> thats written
47:13 <Ripstaa> ANYWAY
47:16 <pooparrot> but ye. not bad ay
47:36 <Ripstaa> read more about god's god
47:43 <Ripstaa> good luck
47:47 <Ripstaa> GOOD LUCK!
47:51 <Ripstaa> MUHAHAHAHAH!
48:13 <Ripstaa> don't look for arguments
48:21 <Ripstaa> =D
48:27 <Ripstaa> FUCK THE TITANS! lol jkjk
48:32 <Ripstaa> bbl
48:49 <pooparrot> think of a king cobra???
48:56 <Oriole> good chat. we continue later.
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49:14 <Ripstaa> <@Tigger_> the problem with polytheism is that the gods are subject to the experience of time
49:21 <pooparrot> what else do i have written
49:41 <Ripstaa> that isn't the only polytheism
49:49 <Ripstaa> LOOK DEEPER MY FRIEND
49:51 <pooparrot> bust a rhyme, theyre flusterd when im, timing it precisely, i roll the dice rhyming cold with ice, ive been told amongst the best, this tounge delivers satan, straight at ya, never late just a crazy hell raiser, leathal in most respects, have a toast to imperial lazer, hes blazin phrases like shady infested with rabies , blessed warrior like HADES, luficers courier disputing the routes of hells fire pit, ring the bells when I hit the groun
49:53 <pooparrot> written
50:00 <pooparrot> but i take credit for it
50:02 * pooparrot bows
50:52 <pooparrot> fuck thats aweosme
50:58 <Tigger_> as soon as you have two or more gods, then you have a chronological relationship between them, an order of precedence of who said or did what
52:00 <Ripstaa> chronoligical by...
52:09 <Ripstaa> time/universes/the ability to have him exist
52:15 <Ripstaa> many things...
52:38 <Tigger_> this was actually one of Plato's arguments for a monotheistic god, that a god that is subject to time is not really God, just a spiritual being
52:47 <Ripstaa> thank you
52:58 <Ripstaa> time/space
53:36 <Ripstaa> it may be the same god
53:59 <Ripstaa> but if he has came from or gone to another, hmmm how can i explain without being weird..
54:04 <Ripstaa> "dimesion"
54:11 <Ripstaa> dimension!
54:22 <Ripstaa> that in itself can be called mulitple gods
54:36 <Ripstaa> whether or not you wanna chronological order them
54:40 <Ripstaa> by "power"
54:53 <Ripstaa> is a good thing to think about lol
55:21 <Ripstaa> or wathever category
55:30 <Ripstaa> know what i mean?
55:35 <Ripstaa> bit weird i know
55:44 <Ripstaa> probably just semantics
55:49 <Ripstaa> =)
55:57 <Ripstaa> just like you said though about plato
56:17 <Ripstaa> it's really subjective
56:58 <Ripstaa> for us to know the higher god than the creator of this unverse
57:16 <Ripstaa> is the toughest of them all to "imagine in a physical realm"
57:47 <Ripstaa> it's like what we don't know is how we can only represent it
58:03 <Ripstaa> i hope i'm making sense
58:09 <pooparrot> i got flames i got flames i got flames
58:09 <Ripstaa> hard for me to put this in sentences hehe
58:11 <Ripstaa> =)
58:47 <Ripstaa> i will try rephrase them in future
58:57 <Ripstaa> I'm sure i'll repeat stuff about polytheism.
59:11 <Ripstaa> But my type of polytheism is multidimensional.
59:13 <Ripstaa> =)
59:26 <Ripstaa> Not many gods in our plane.
59:46 <Ripstaa> pooparrot go hard m8
59:56 <Ripstaa> i would if i was you haha
00:23 <Ripstaa> i dunno if i should actually call it polytheism
00:33 <Ripstaa> i havent really research "polytheism" yet tbh
01:00 <Ripstaa> need to buy another pack of ciggys bbl
01:01 <Ripstaa> o/
01:27 <Ripstaa> FUCKIN EXPENSIVE NOW DAYS, $1 per cigg WTF, GOV PLZ
02:28 <Ripstaa> https://www.britannica.com/topic/polytheism
02:42 <Ripstaa> i'm gonna read this see how it goes hehe
03:26 <Ripstaa> Tigger_ i see your interested inphyics too, me too! =D
03:39 * Ripstaa smokes his last ciggy :o
03:43 * Ripstaa slaps pooparrot around a bit with a large trout
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03:50 <Tigger_> a passing interest in physics
05:26 <pooparrot> keke
05:29 <pooparrot> mad flow
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26:46 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo trumpppppppppppppppppppppppppp
28:06 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> trump is good man
28:13 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> he shpuld be president
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08:44 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is clip clop a unicorn?
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20:32 <Marttin> Ive heard this debate was a bigger clown show than the first
21:50 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> go trump
21:55 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> trump for president
22:09 <Ripstaa> kids in africa could be eating this debate
23:07 <Marttin> is it live now?
23:30 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> vote 1 trump
23:32 <Ripstaa> kids ate it
23:36 <Ripstaa> no more
23:41 <Ripstaa> =)
24:03 <Ripstaa> it was live a moment ago
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48:04 <smiles> smiles and sunshine everyone
48:07 <smiles> daddys home
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04:41 <pooparrot> the suspect is my flow
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54:22 <GoldSpade> they are duds
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14:36 <President_Trump> https://i.redditmedia.com/qpo64wYL3Blg4nOXA91ORr7L_5ajirUNmArQuILXXFk.jpg?w=1024&s=69af1b1146dc7abab34d03ccaf3f8f7a
14:50 <Marttin> LOL
21:58 <Ripstaa> >.>
21:59 <Ripstaa> <.<
22:06 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> pong liek trump
22:12 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> he goo man
22:14 <[[[[[pong]]]]]> good
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32:24 <President_Trump> lol alex jones '20 minutes in she's sitting on her fat ass'
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14:30 <Donald_Trump> GoldSpade = as dumb as a rock like don lemon
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15:04 <GoldSpade> Donald_Trump - thick as a dick
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16:09 <GoldSpade> brick
16:37 <GoldSpade> whats the lastest
16:41 <Donald_Trump> u got dick on your mind GoldSpade?
16:51 <GoldSpade> no
16:52 <GoldSpade> have you
18:05 <Donald_Trump> u were talking about dick
18:48 <GoldSpade> I said you were thick a dick
18:55 <GoldSpade> or you are
18:58 <GoldSpade> rather
20:11 <IvanTheBastard> some dicks arent very thick though
20:22 <IvanTheBastard> so that leaves us in abit of a predicament
20:31 <Donald_Trump> GoldSpade isnt fussy
20:42 <GoldSpade> you're telling the story
20:45 <GoldSpade> thump
21:04 <Donald_Trump> that time he had sex with bozojim
21:20 <GoldSpade> you idiot
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22:52 <Donald_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqCIub3SmCI
22:56 <BlackDevil> Youtube: CNN (CLINTON NEWS NETWORK) TELLS VOTERS WHAT TO SAY (Oct 9, 2016) Length: 0:26 - Category: People & Blogs - 134,868 views views - 5,395 likes (96.8%), 180 dislikes (3.2%)
23:30 <GoldSpade> we are great because we are good
23:40 <GoldSpade> what a dumb thing thing to say
24:19 <Donald_Trump> i have never understood what that stupid line is meant to mean she always says
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30:38 <Marttin> Jen back in 1912 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRDge71BKRM&t=1m22s
30:42 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Old German Operetta: Geh'n wir mal zu Hagenbeck - Proto Orchester, 1912 (Sep 18, 2015) Length: 2:53 - Category: Music - 1,178 views views - 17 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
36:27 <GoldSpade> silly
36:52 <Donald_Trump> lol
37:16 <Donald_Trump> i see jen in the photo in the pic after too
37:26 <Donald_Trump> i see jen in the pic after too
41:59 <GoldSpade> well I like jen
42:10 <GoldSpade> I dont care what others say about her
42:20 <Donald_Trump> we all like jen
42:34 <GoldSpade> could of fooled me
42:53 <Donald_Trump> her and i are very close
42:59 <Donald_Trump> we've been for sushi together
43:07 <GoldSpade> heh
43:08 <GoldSpade> sif
43:16 <Donald_Trump> sif what?
43:17 <Donald_Trump> ask her fool
43:25 <Marttin> trump is jen's #1 friend
43:37 <GoldSpade> see Marttin knows
43:58 <Marttin> of course I do, Ive seen the whole list
44:05 <Marttin> Im #6
44:16 <GoldSpade> what you mean
44:31 <Marttin> Jen listed us in order of friendship
44:37 <GoldSpade> hmm
44:44 <Marttin> that was before you appeard
44:50 <GoldSpade> heh
44:56 <GoldSpade> what a coincidence
44:57 <Marttin> i might be 7 now
45:26 <breaker> One word for GoldSpade
45:37 <breaker>                                                                     
46:22 <GoldSpade> ohh wow so impressive breaker
46:31 <Marttin> looooooooooooooooooool
46:45 <GoldSpade> 10/10 for that one
47:24 <breaker> [10/10/2016 21:40:23] *** ChanOP sets mode: +b *!*@921aaeb4.internode.on.net
47:24 <breaker> [10/10/2016 21:40:23] *** [#melbourne] Banned- GoldSpade
47:24 <breaker> [10/10/2016 21:40:24] *** GoldSpade was kicked by ChanOP (Too creepy fuck off back to k-town)
47:28 <breaker> LOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
47:45 <GoldSpade> lwax was suppose to fix thats
47:57 <breaker> No she wasn't.. she doesn't have access.
48:02 <Donald_Trump> doodle set that ban coz you were hitting on him lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
48:08 <GoldSpade> heheh
48:15 <GoldSpade> no it was sez
48:19 <GoldSpade> I asked her out
48:31 <GoldSpade> on the main channel
48:49 <Donald_Trump> lol
48:51 <breaker>                                                                                         
48:56 <GoldSpade> and she was playing hard to get
48:59 <Donald_Trump> any female on irc that hasnt rejected u GoldSpade?
49:03 <GoldSpade> so I offered to pay
49:10 <GoldSpade> rather than go dutch
49:32 <Donald_Trump> if you want to have any money left in your pocket at the end of the night best to take serenity to a buffet
49:57 <GoldSpade> shes fucked off anyway
50:28 <GoldSpade> it was good for a laugh
51:27 <breaker> It's more of a laugh seeing you banned and watching you have a meltdown over it.
51:37 <breaker> :)
51:40 <GoldSpade> I never had a meltdown
51:47 <breaker> You're lying.
51:55 <GoldSpade> no reason to lie on here
52:07 <breaker> I saw the pm's you had :)
52:16 <Donald_Trump> you had a meltdown when fax caught you trying to get demut to send you a worn pair of his undies
52:27 <GoldSpade> LOL
52:37 <GoldSpade> oh yeah that
52:40 <GoldSpade> well yeah
52:44 <GoldSpade> um ok
52:54 <GoldSpade> you got me
53:42 <Donald_Trump> u have a thing for pirates that never wash their undies
53:58 <GoldSpade> how did you know
53:59 <breaker> haha
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06:30 <breaker> GoldSpade, Stop harassing people.
06:48 <GoldSpade> what are you on about
07:04 <GoldSpade> its usually the other way around
07:05 <GoldSpade> heh
07:16 <breaker> That's just your lies.
07:37 <Donald_Trump> GoldSpade where were u going to take serenity?
07:55 <GoldSpade> heheh
07:57 <GoldSpade> sif
08:18 <breaker> haha. Serenity lives at Sizzlers.. they're both in Perth.
08:57 <GoldSpade> good on her
12:02 <breaker> Go stalk her there like you always do
12:41 <GoldSpade> shall
12:42 <GoldSpade> do
13:11 <breaker> I like it when you talk about me in other channels
14:13 <breaker> specially when it's in pm.. they get pasted back to me :)
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10:27 <President_Trump> https://i.sli.mg/xjhh6C.jpg
11:02 <GoldSpade> is that you thump
16:28 <GoldSpade> be funny if it was
26:26 <Warren1984> no clowns seen just got back
26:35 <President_Trump> http://www.infowars.com/she-became-too-westernized-dads-punishment-rape/
42:07 <Rant> hi guys, that pic is halarious
44:31 <xm> lol Warren1984
44:50 <xm> next time you see your doctor dress up as a clown
45:09 <xm> and say that you think you've gone mad, saying you see people that are dressed up as clowns when they arent
45:39 <President_Trump> Rant you can send an all staff email today
45:41 <President_Trump> "MAGA"
46:03 <Rant> huh?
48:35 <President_Trump> Rant you can send an all staff email today
48:37 <President_Trump> "MAGA"
49:08 <Rant> lol
49:30 <Rant> an american just told me that i should not speak about american politics cuz i'm not amaericn
49:32 <Rant> can you believe that shit
51:25 <President_Trump> what did u say to them?
51:43 <President_Trump> maybe they support the rape enabler
52:00 <Rant> i just said that hiliary likes to lie
53:03 <President_Trump> this is good
53:09 <President_Trump> u can start taunting them with memes
54:17 <President_Trump> say to them 'soon we will have a real president to replace the muslim in chief'
54:45 <Rant> nno , she's a sick woman i dont want to attack her
54:50 <Rant> i walked away
55:06 <President_Trump> how is she sick?
55:13 <Rant> i mean the chatter is a sick person
55:15 <Rant> bedridden
55:19 <Rant> i dotn need to attack her
56:00 <Rant> jesus fuck, now she says she's going to report me to the netwrok admins
56:02 <Rant> wtf
56:09 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllll
56:22 <Rant> shes nuts
56:26 <President_Trump> what did u say to them?
56:44 <Rant> nothing, i just said even if i'm not american i'm entitled to my opinions
56:47 <Rant> lol
56:47 <President_Trump> say to her 'are you upset because bill clinton didnt rape you?'
56:53 <Rant> lol
57:08 <President_Trump> tell her if she doesnt shut the fuck up you will grab her by the pussy
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