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00:00 <IvanTheBastard> !voteban wolfy
00:00 <anotherirc3r> haha
00:00 <anotherirc3r> yes
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> !voteban has begun. Type !voteban wolfy to register your vote, after 5 minutes if 5 votes are recieved, wofly will be banned
00:21 <IvanTheBastard> !voteban wolfy
00:28 <anotherirc3r> haha
00:29 <anotherirc3r> yes
00:58 <IvanTheBastard> !voteban has begun. Type !voteban wolfy to register your vote, after 5 minutes if 5 votes are recieved, wofly will be banned
01:00 <breaker> lol
01:00 <breaker> !voteban wolfy
01:00 <anotherirc3r> !voteban wolfy
01:00 <anotherirc3r> can we also have one for circle please?
01:00 <frosty> !voteban wolfy
01:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm scared i'm going to be ruined
01:22 <breaker> lol
01:24 <breaker> !voteban wolfy
01:35 <anotherirc3r> !voteban wolfy
01:41 <anotherirc3r> can we also have one for circle please?
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01:51 <frosty> !voteban wolfy
01:54 <anotherirc3r> i'm scared i'm going to be ruined
02:00 <auxsub> !voteban wolfy
02:00 <Marttinn> !voteban wolfy
02:00 <IvanTheBastard> Voteban succusful, banning wolfy...
02:00 <IvanTheBastard> you are not channel operator
02:00 <wolfy> have a go
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02:06 <auxsub> !voteban wolfy
02:11 <Marttinn> !voteban wolfy
02:46 <IvanTheBastard> Voteban succusful, banning wolfy...
02:53 <IvanTheBastard> you are not channel operator
02:58 <wolfy> have a go
03:00 <breaker> KnIfe Ya!
03:00 <wolfy> balla
03:00 <breaker> LifT yA GaMe cuNt
03:00 <wolfy> ok david
03:09 <breaker> KnIfe Ya!
03:24 <wolfy> balla
03:38 <breaker> LifT yA GaMe cuNt
03:52 <wolfy> ok david
04:00 <wolfy> got me glock on me now
04:29 <wolfy> got me glock on me now
06:00 <wolfy> hey kodak
06:00 <breaker> Get on tHe TraIn aNd giVe Me a fRee StIcK - 20 minutes later.
06:00 <wolfy> k
06:09 <wolfy> hey kodak
06:27 <breaker> Get on tHe TraIn aNd giVe Me a fRee StIcK - 20 minutes later.
07:00 <breaker> Where's this ban ?
07:00 <wolfy> ??
07:00 <wolfy> ill get noongas
07:01 <wolfy> k
07:17 <breaker> Where's this ban ?
07:28 <wolfy> ??
07:51 <wolfy> ill get noongas
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> the script didnt work
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> because i dont have ops
08:00 <wolfy> cops cumt cib
08:00 <xm> shane
08:00 <wolfy> fuck around with me xunt
08:00 <xm> i heard there's progress with the claremont serial killer case
08:21 <IvanTheBastard> the script didnt work
08:24 <IvanTheBastard> because i dont have ops
08:32 <wolfy> cops cumt cib
08:41 <xm> shane
08:49 <wolfy> fuck around with me xunt
08:56 <xm> i heard there's progress with the claremont serial killer case
09:00 <wolfy> try greylamds peimary school
09:00 <wolfy> 😃
09:29 <wolfy> try greylamds peimary school
09:37 <wolfy> 😃
13:00 <wolfy> greylands*
13:41 <wolfy> greylands*
14:00 <xm> great hotel
14:00 <xm> i give it 4.5/5 stars
14:00 <wolfy> what you mean
14:00 <wolfy> im lpaded
14:00 <IvanTheBastard> ive met a mate there
14:08 <xm> great hotel
14:14 <xm> i give it 4.5/5 stars
14:26 <wolfy> what you mean
14:57 <wolfy> im lpaded
14:58 <IvanTheBastard> ive met a mate there
15:00 <IvanTheBastard> and had a couple of smokes
15:00 <IvanTheBastard> but never actually had to stay there thank god
15:00 <IvanTheBastard> Hotel Graylands indeed
15:00 <xm> it's a smoker's friendly hotel
15:00 <wolfy> i got a million dollars in my pocket
15:03 <IvanTheBastard> and had a couple of smokes
15:10 <IvanTheBastard> but never actually had to stay there thank god
15:13 <IvanTheBastard> Hotel Graylands indeed
15:34 <xm> it's a smoker's friendly hotel
15:51 <wolfy> i got a million dollars in my pocket
16:00 <wolfy> hsh
16:00 <anotherirc3r> thanks
16:33 <wolfy> hsh
16:59 * anotherirc3r robs wolfy
17:00 <anotherirc3r> thanks
17:00 <wolfy> ya wanna have a go i'll stick redrooster up
18:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
18:00 <anotherirc3r> okay m8
18:00 <anotherirc3r> outside NOW
18:00 <wolfy> ok
18:02 <wolfy> ya wanna have a go i'll stick redrooster up
18:34 <anotherirc3r> lol
18:38 <anotherirc3r> okay m8
18:41 <anotherirc3r> outside NOW
18:52 <wolfy> ok
19:00 <wolfy> i got me gun on me
19:00 <ajnin> fuck on call
19:00 <ajnin> ahhhhhhhhhhh
19:44 <wolfy> i got me gun on me
19:54 <ajnin> fuck on call
19:55 <ajnin> ahhhhhhhhhhh
20:00 <anotherirc3r> ajnin!!!
20:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r!!!
20:00 <anotherirc3r> wb :)
20:00 <ajnin> thanks :)
20:00 <ajnin> something just fucked up at work
20:00 <ajnin> go a call
20:00 <ajnin> tring to work out what happenend
20:00 <ajnin> fuck its warm tonight
20:00 <anotherirc3r> too warm!
20:06 <anotherirc3r> ajnin!!!
20:09 <ajnin> anotherirc3r!!!
20:11 <anotherirc3r> wb :)
20:15 <ajnin> thanks :)
20:22 <ajnin> something just fucked up at work
20:24 <ajnin> go a call
20:31 <ajnin> tring to work out what happenend
20:44 <ajnin> fuck its warm tonight
21:00 <anotherirc3r> going to have the fan on tonight
21:03 <anotherirc3r> too warm!
21:07 <anotherirc3r> going to have the fan on tonight
22:00 <wolfy> maybe you might loose some weight
22:03 <wolfy> maybe you might loose some weight
23:00 <anotherirc3r> who are you talking to wolfy?
23:00 <wolfy> fat cunt
23:00 <ajnin> hahah
23:00 <ajnin> me i would guess
23:00 <ajnin> wolfy did I ever tell you about that hotdog place called wolfy's
23:05 <anotherirc3r> who are you talking to wolfy?
23:36 <wolfy> fat cunt
23:39 <ajnin> hahah
23:43 <ajnin> me i would guess
23:59 <ajnin> wolfy did I ever tell you about that hotdog place called wolfy's
24:00 <ajnin> it was the BEST
24:00 <ajnin> the fucking best hotdog I have ever had
24:00 <wolfy> im a tranny
24:05 <ajnin> it was the BEST
24:16 <ajnin> the fucking best hotdog I have ever had
24:39 <wolfy> im a tranny
25:00 <Marttinn> http://cdn.20m.es/img2/recortes/2015/11/05/247205-944-534.jpg LOL
25:00 <wolfy> fuck me
25:14 <Marttinn> http://cdn.20m.es/img2/recortes/2015/11/05/247205-944-534.jpg LOL
25:50 <wolfy> fuck me
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> LOL
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> look at that smug bitch
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> that kid is way too old to be breastfeeding
27:00 <IvanTheBastard> he's like 6
27:26 <IvanTheBastard> LOL
27:40 <IvanTheBastard> look at that smug bitch
27:45 <IvanTheBastard> that kid is way too old to be breastfeeding
27:49 <IvanTheBastard> he's like 6
28:00 <wolfy> oh yes oh yes
28:00 <anotherirc3r> gross
28:00 <wolfy> fuck me
28:00 <Ethanol> "I have a right to trespass because I'm breastfeeding my 6 year old son"
28:00 <wolfy> rolf
28:04 <wolfy> oh yes oh yes
28:11 <anotherirc3r> gross
28:26 <wolfy> fuck me
28:37 <Ethanol> "I have a right to trespass because I'm breastfeeding my 6 year old son"
28:55 <wolfy> rolf
34:00 <wolfy> hey breaker mate
34:00 <breaker> pz
34:00 <wolfy> 😊
34:00 <breaker> On the piss ?
34:00 <wolfy> come with me
34:00 <breaker> Where ?
34:04 <wolfy> hey breaker mate
34:22 <breaker> pz
34:36 <wolfy> 😊
34:37 <breaker> On the piss ?
34:53 <wolfy> come with me
35:00 <wolfy> in my car
35:00 <breaker> Too dangerous.
35:00 <breaker> I rather live thanks.
35:00 <wolfy> lollol
35:00 <ajnin> haha
35:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
35:00 <ajnin> yea drink driving for for fags
35:02 <breaker> Where ?
35:16 <wolfy> in my car
35:33 <breaker> Too dangerous.
35:41 <breaker> I rather live thanks.
35:45 <wolfy> lollol
35:48 <ajnin> haha
35:51 <anotherirc3r> lol
35:54 <ajnin> yea drink driving for for fags
36:00 <ajnin> YAY
36:00 <ajnin> i fixed the issue
36:00 <anotherirc3r> wolfy got rejected
36:00 <ajnin> also I am going to get a pedisool fan
36:00 <wolfy> come on mate i'm harmless
36:00 <ajnin> i have to sellp with the door closed and its to hot
36:00 <ajnin> good night
36:11 <ajnin> YAY
36:16 <ajnin> i fixed the issue
36:17 <anotherirc3r> wolfy got rejected
36:23 <ajnin> also I am going to get a pedisool fan
36:31 <wolfy> come on mate i'm harmless
36:41 <ajnin> i have to sellp with the door closed and its to hot
36:48 <ajnin> good night
37:00 <wolfy> nite
37:00 <anotherirc3r> ajnin: get a tower fan
37:00 <anotherirc3r> waaaaay better
37:00 <wolfy> omg
37:10 <wolfy> nite
37:42 <anotherirc3r> ajnin: get a tower fan
37:45 <anotherirc3r> waaaaay better
38:00 <Ethanol> We just buy the $15 house-fire lighters from Bunnings
38:00 <Warren1984> Jen how can I set a direction in my life
38:01 <wolfy> omg
38:45 <Ethanol> We just buy the $15 house-fire lighters from Bunnings
38:49 <Warren1984> Jen how can I set a direction in my life
39:00 <wolfy> hi warren
39:00 <anotherirc3r> umm.. good question
39:00 <wolfy> loloko
39:00 <anotherirc3r> are you drunk wolfy?
39:13 <wolfy> hi warren
39:38 <anotherirc3r> umm.. good question
39:53 <wolfy> loloko
40:00 <anotherirc3r> seriously
40:00 <wolfy> k
40:00 <anotherirc3r> no.. it's a question
40:02 <anotherirc3r> are you drunk wolfy?
40:04 <anotherirc3r> seriously
40:23 <wolfy> k
40:56 <anotherirc3r> no.. it's a question
41:00 <Warren1984> hey wolfy
41:00 <breaker> He'll go to Warwick Grove and hangout in the carpark by himself.
41:00 <wolfy> i used to work for the csiro
41:05 <Warren1984> hey wolfy
41:11 <breaker> He'll go to Warwick Grove and hangout in the carpark by himself.
41:29 <wolfy> i used to work for the csiro
42:00 <wolfy> near the beach in sorrento
42:00 <anotherirc3r> ..i think he's lost it
42:00 <Mx_Trump> wolfy is homeless
42:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: are you still studying PC repair?
42:00 <Mx_Trump> stole money off warren
42:00 <Warren1984> yes Ethanol
42:07 <wolfy> near the beach in sorrento
42:15 <anotherirc3r> ..i think he's lost it
42:22 <Mx_Trump> wolfy is homeless
42:31 <Ethanol> Warren1984: are you still studying PC repair?
42:45 <Mx_Trump> stole money off warren
42:58 <Warren1984> yes Ethanol
43:00 <Warren1984> it only went for 2 weeks
43:00 <Warren1984> and the rest of the course is electrical
43:00 <Ethanol> ah ok
43:00 <Warren1984> feel like pulling out now that I have passed my computer exam
43:00 <wolfy> so hot it hurts
43:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: why?
43:00 <Warren1984> because I want to goto thornlie next year
43:00 <Warren1984> that is 1 year to doing PC repair/tech
43:04 <Warren1984> it only went for 2 weeks
43:13 <Warren1984> and the rest of the course is electrical
43:21 <Ethanol> ah ok
43:29 <Warren1984> feel like pulling out now that I have passed my computer exam
43:36 <wolfy> so hot it hurts
43:45 <Ethanol> Warren1984: why?
43:46 <Warren1984> because I want to goto thornlie next year
44:00 <Warren1984> and we only need to learn electronics related to computers
44:03 <Warren1984> that is 1 year to doing PC repair/tech
44:33 <Warren1984> and we only need to learn electronics related to computers
45:00 <Ethanol> finish your electronics course, and ask xm for a job as an electronic technician
45:00 <wolfy> dont you already know you're stuff
45:00 <Warren1984> yeah I know myself
45:00 <wolfy> your*
45:00 <Warren1984> studied it hard
45:03 <Ethanol> finish your electronics course, and ask xm for a job as an electronic technician
45:41 <wolfy> dont you already know you're stuff
45:51 <Warren1984> yeah I know myself
45:56 <wolfy> your*
45:58 <Warren1984> studied it hard
46:00 <xm> you have to be a little OCD to be a good electrician technician
46:00 <wolfy> i know kung fu
46:00 <Warren1984> 2 weeks of computers is not as elaborate as 1 year
46:00 <xm> details matter, especially for safety
46:00 <wolfy> my kung fu is the best
46:00 <Warren1984> details matter in everything
46:00 <xm> wolfy: did you learn Kung Fu from YouTube?
46:00 <wolfy> i know redhat 
46:16 <xm> you have to be a little OCD to be a good electrician technician
46:17 <wolfy> i know kung fu
46:21 <Warren1984> 2 weeks of computers is not as elaborate as 1 year
46:24 <xm> details matter, especially for safety
46:32 <wolfy> my kung fu is the best
46:44 <Warren1984> details matter in everything
46:50 <xm> wolfy: did you learn Kung Fu from YouTube?
47:00 <wolfy> i know redhat
47:00 <Warren1984> name one thing in which details don't matter
47:00 <Mx_Trump> Ethanol do you want to offer Warren1984 a job?
47:13 <Warren1984> name one thing in which details don't matter
47:41 <Mx_Trump> Ethanol do you want to offer Warren1984 a job?
48:00 <wolfy> ?
48:00 <Ethanol> I don't need a PC technician though. I can hire an Indian to do that for $5 an hour.
48:00 <wolfy> i could auprise you
48:13 <wolfy> ?
48:37 <Ethanol> I don't need a PC technician though. I can hire an Indian to do that for $5 an hour.
48:45 <wolfy> i could auprise you
49:00 <xm> people just replace entire components now
49:00 <xm> oh you meant assembly
49:00 <xm> etc
49:00 <wolfy> i want a 486
49:00 <xm> i want a 386
49:00 <Mx_Trump> hire warren or skip, the choice is yours
49:00 <wolfy> hot
49:07 <xm> people just replace entire components now
49:22 <xm> oh you meant assembly
49:24 <xm> etc
49:29 <wolfy> i want a 486
49:37 <xm> i want a 386
49:40 <Mx_Trump> hire warren or skip, the choice is yours
49:46 <wolfy> hot
50:00 <Ethanol> I'd take Warren1984. skip would bail in less than a week. Warren would at least make the effort to turn up for a month
50:00 <xm> lmao
50:24 <Ethanol> I'd take Warren1984. skip would bail in less than a week. Warren would at least make the effort to turn up for a month
50:43 <xm> lmao
51:00 <wolfy> 😎 vgv
51:00 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 would stand around in the kitchen for a month asking people if their routine when they made their coffee
51:05 <wolfy> 😎 vgv
51:35 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 would stand around in the kitchen for a month asking people if their routine when they made their coffee
52:00 <wolfy> heh
52:00 <Warren1984> lol
52:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
52:09 <wolfy> heh
52:09 <Warren1984> lol
52:38 <anotherirc3r> lol
53:00 <wolfy> fancy
53:00 <Mx_Trump> and tell everyone Ethanol was his good friend from irc
53:44 <wolfy> fancy
53:50 <Mx_Trump> and tell everyone Ethanol was his good friend from irc
54:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: Here are the skills I would need if I was hiring: 1. Soldering (including hand-mounting of surface mount components) 2. Reading schematics and assembly diagrams 3. Assembly (fitting PCBs, connectors and switches into cases, etc) 4. Hardware testing 5. Fault finding 6. Basic repair work
55:00 <Ethanol> No PC repair/assembly skills needed
55:02 <Ethanol> Warren1984: Here are the skills I would need if I was hiring: 1. Soldering (including hand-mounting of surface mount components) 2. Reading schematics and assembly diagrams 3. Assembly (fitting PCBs, connectors and switches into cases, etc) 4. Hardware testing 5. Fault finding 6. Basic repair work
55:13 <Ethanol> No PC repair/assembly skills needed
56:00 <wolfy> i got redhat 9
56:08 <wolfy> i got redhat 9
57:00 <wolfy> official cd
57:00 <Marttinn> lol Mx_Trump I realize now all messages I wrote you back in private werent sended because I wasnt logged
57:00 <xm> i would find soldering the hardest
57:00 <Warren1984> don't have those skills yet Ethanol
57:00 <Warren1984> soldering is easy
57:00 <wolfy> lol spldering is rasy
57:00 <Warren1984> I find when I don't pay too much attention it's easy
57:00 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 4,4 loser spanish 
57:00 <wolfy> lol
57:12 <wolfy> official cd
57:15 <Marttinn> lol Mx_Trump I realize now all messages I wrote you back in private werent sended because I wasnt logged
57:19 <xm> i would find soldering the hardest
57:22 <Warren1984> don't have those skills yet Ethanol
57:31 <Warren1984> soldering is easy
57:42 <wolfy> lol spldering is rasy
57:48 <Warren1984> I find when I don't pay too much attention it's easy
57:49 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll  loser spanish
57:59 <wolfy> lol
58:00 <xm> lol marttin
58:00 <wolfy> ill make
58:00 <Warren1984> Mx_Trump why did Putin take out one of his own planes with a BUK missle
58:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: 4, 5, and 6 require experience
58:00 <Mx_Trump> so he can invade iraq and enjoy the spoils of war
58:00 <Marttinn> we have exposed 14yo chelsea xm
58:14 <wolfy> ill make
58:14 <xm> lol marttin
58:18 <Warren1984> Mx_Trump why did Putin take out one of his own planes with a BUK missle
58:30 <Ethanol> Warren1984: 4, 5, and 6 require experience
58:33 <Mx_Trump> so he can invade iraq and enjoy the spoils of war
58:40 <Marttinn> we have exposed 14yo chelsea xm
59:00 <Warren1984> I can't believe they still haven't come to conclusion about what caused the metrojet to fall out of the sky
59:00 <Warren1984> yeah true Ethanol
59:00 <Warren1984> but I thought you were in IT
59:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: 4 is where you will find the money, especially in compliance testing (eg electromagnetic compatibility)
59:00 <Marttinn> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-CcdnXqun3hF7AVytuP4e8J/e5c4f59b-1cbc-4b5d-b881-b577535528ec.JPG/r0_397_4256_2790_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg LACHLAN
59:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: no
59:00 <anotherirc3r> who's Lachlan?
59:00 <Warren1984> I feel so tired tonight
59:00 <Marttinn> picard son
59:00 <Mx_Trump> fucking hell
59:00 <Mx_Trump> he is going to be ugly just like his old man lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
59:09 <Warren1984> I can't believe they still haven't come to conclusion about what caused the metrojet to fall out of the sky
59:15 <Warren1984> yeah true Ethanol
59:21 <Warren1984> but I thought you were in IT
59:22 <Ethanol> Warren1984: 4 is where you will find the money, especially in compliance testing (eg electromagnetic compatibility)
59:31 <Marttinn> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-CcdnXqun3hF7AVytuP4e8J/e5c4f59b-1cbc-4b5d-b881-b577535528ec.JPG/r0_397_4256_2790_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg LACHLAN
59:33 * breaker is away -( Auto Away - bbl )- at [00:59:36] -( P:Off / L:Off )-
59:41 <Ethanol> Warren1984: no
59:47 <Warren1984> I feel so tired tonight
59:47 <anotherirc3r> who's Lachlan?
59:53 <Marttinn> picard son
59:55 <Mx_Trump> fucking hell
00:00 <Warren1984> so you are in electronics
00:00 <Mx_Trump> jen have you got your eye on him? lolllllllllllllll
00:00 <Mx_Trump> hes only like 16 jen, you sick fuck
00:00 <Mx_Trump> jen peado
00:00 <Ethanol> Warren1984: I do both
00:02 <Mx_Trump> he is going to be ugly just like his old man lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
00:04 <Warren1984> so you are in electronics
00:32 <Mx_Trump> jen have you got your eye on him? lolllllllllllllll
00:40 <Mx_Trump> hes only like 16 jen, you sick fuck
00:46 <Mx_Trump> jen peado
00:56 <Ethanol> Warren1984: I do both
01:00 <wolfy> there used to be a computer shop in maylands
01:00 <anotherirc3r> lol no
01:00 <xm> marttin?
01:00 <xm> how?
01:00 <Marttinn> just by searching
01:06 <wolfy> there used to be a computer shop in maylands
01:12 <anotherirc3r> lol no
01:22 <xm> marttin?
01:23 <xm> how?
02:00 <Marttinn> we havent though of this in long time, and turn out to be new pics
02:00 <wolfy> ?
02:02 <Marttinn> just by searching
02:13 <Marttinn> we havent though of this in long time, and turn out to be new pics
02:20 <wolfy> ?
03:00 <wolfy> you people must have no life
03:13 <wolfy> you people must have no life
04:00 <Marttinn> http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-ZChRDbcuG46UcBCtEPLAbL/69d4d64e-d72c-49ce-b4f0-024a406462de.JPG/r0_141_2757_1691_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-CcdnXqun3hF7AVytuP4e8J/6ac23a3e-f81a-4cf0-aea7-e8d7aa2634ce.jpg/r0_164_3201_1964_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg thick sexy bitches in mildura
04:00 <xm> warren and i have no life. we are dead set on solving the CSK case. our rooms are filled with news paper clippings and strings going from one side to the other
04:35 <Marttinn> http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-ZChRDbcuG46UcBCtEPLAbL/69d4d64e-d72c-49ce-b4f0-024a406462de.JPG/r0_141_2757_1691_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-CcdnXqun3hF7AVytuP4e8J/6ac23a3e-f81a-4cf0-aea7-e8d7aa2634ce.jpg/r0_164_3201_1964_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg thick sexy bitches in mildura
04:39 <xm> warren and i have no life. we are dead set on solving the CSK case. our rooms are filled with news paper clippings and strings going from one side to the other
05:00 <xm> looks a bit like Lish
05:00 <Warren1984> nite all
05:00 <xm> i can sort of see the Picard face
05:00 <wolfy> i am csk
05:30 <xm> looks a bit like Lish
05:44 <Warren1984> nite all
05:46 Quit: Warren1984 ([email protected]) Quit:
05:56 <xm> i can sort of see the Picard face
06:00 <wolfy> i am csk
06:00 <Marttinn> http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-ZChRDbcuG46UcBCtEPLAbL/9daaccfe-70c4-4e4b-af59-4f09cd319662.jpg/r0_210_4105_2518_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg
06:09 <Marttinn> http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/storypad-ZChRDbcuG46UcBCtEPLAbL/9daaccfe-70c4-4e4b-af59-4f09cd319662.jpg/r0_210_4105_2518_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg
07:00 <wolfy> im cib
07:00 <Ethanol> night
07:06 <wolfy> im cib
07:59 <Ethanol> night
08:00 <wolfy> i love you sarah
08:00 <IvanTheBastard> goodnight friends
08:00 <Marttinn> https://gyazo.com/18f05fd309df7b60ff1ab30c2832a2b3 prothero & sanders in the same search results
08:00 <progressive> [ Gyazo - 18f05fd309df7b60ff1ab30c2832a2b3.png ] - gyazo.com
08:00 <Marttinn> night IvanTheBastard
08:00 <anotherirc3r> ninight Ivan
08:00 <anotherirc3r> who is sarah? lol
08:00 <wolfy> lol
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08:14 <wolfy> i love you sarah
08:32 <IvanTheBastard> goodnight friends
08:36 <Marttinn> https://gyazo.com/18f05fd309df7b60ff1ab30c2832a2b3 prothero & sanders in the same search results
08:36 <progressive> [ Gyazo - 18f05fd309df7b60ff1ab30c2832a2b3.png ] - gyazo.com
08:38 <Marttinn> night IvanTheBastard
08:40 <anotherirc3r> ninight Ivan
08:50 <anotherirc3r> who is sarah? lol
09:00 <wolfy> lol
11:00 <wolfy> no but seriously
11:18 <wolfy> no but seriously
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57:00 <circle> http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/10/27/coming-school-gate-battle-over-religious-education-public-schools
57:00 <progressive> [ Coming in the school gate: The battle over religious education in public schools | SBS News ] - www.sbs.com.au
57:06 <circle> http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/10/27/coming-school-gate-battle-over-religious-education-public-schools
57:08 <progressive> [ Coming in the school gate: The battle over religious education in public schools | SBS News ] - www.sbs.com.au
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19:35 <wolframhart> Ne1 here
19:53 <wolframhart> Tigger have you read teslas bio
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12:00 <Warren1984> hey all
12:08 <Warren1984> hey all
23:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984 
23:19 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
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32:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
32:59 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
33:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, did you wash your jet ski down today?
33:00 <Warren1984> jet ski?
33:00 <Tigger_> yes
33:00 <Warren1984> I don't know what you are talking about
33:15 <Tigger_> Warren1984, did you wash your jet ski down today?
33:34 <Warren1984> jet ski?
33:49 <Tigger_> yes
33:58 <Warren1984> I don't know what you are talking about
34:00 <Tigger_> don't you have a jet ski?
34:24 <Tigger_> don't you have a jet ski?
35:00 <Warren1984> no
35:00 <Warren1984> who said that?
35:00 <Tigger_> I thought everyone who lived in the big city had a jet ski for the weekend
35:21 <Warren1984> no
35:26 <Warren1984> who said that?
36:00 <Tigger_> I thought everyone who lived in the big city had a jet ski for the weekend
36:00 <Warren1984> no
36:00 <Warren1984> not many people own jet ski
36:00 <Warren1984> own a
36:00 <McLoop> I do
36:07 <Warren1984> no
36:22 <Warren1984> not many people own jet ski
36:27 <Warren1984> own a
36:44 <McLoop> I do
38:00 <Tigger_> see
38:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, so how come you don't have a jet ski?
38:00 <Warren1984> have no need for one
38:16 <Tigger_> see
38:38 <Tigger_> Warren1984, so how come you don't have a jet ski?
39:00 <Warren1984> have no need for one
39:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you acquire skills fast?
39:00 <Abortion> jetski's are needlessly expensive for just recreation
39:00 <McLoop> it's how I get around from day to day
39:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how do you acquire skills fast?
39:24 <Abortion> jetski's are needlessly expensive for just recreation
39:45 <McLoop> it's how I get around from day to day
40:00 <Tigger_> how much is a jetski?
40:00 <McLoop> 5k
40:00 <Abortion> at a complete guess $12k
40:00 <McLoop> I really want a jetpack though
40:04 <Tigger_> how much is a jetski?
40:14 <McLoop> 5k
40:19 <Abortion> at a complete guess $12k
40:31 <McLoop> I really want a jetpack though
41:00 <Tigger_> one of those water jetpacks they use to make people go up in the air?
41:00 <McLoop> just a jetpack so i can fly around
41:00 <Abortion> big fan backpack
41:05 <Tigger_> one of those water jetpacks they use to make people go up in the air?
41:24 <McLoop> just a jetpack so i can fly around
41:34 <Abortion> big fan backpack
42:00 <Abortion> build a micro vtol
42:00 <Abortion> straight jet packs are heaps inefficient
42:00 <Warren1984> where would you ride a jet ski
42:12 <Abortion> build a micro vtol
42:36 <Abortion> straight jet packs are heaps inefficient
42:55 <Warren1984> where would you ride a jet ski
43:00 <Abortion> you want something with a glide ratio that can still go straight up and down for takeoff/landing
43:00 <BlackDevil> in a pool
43:00 <Tigger_> new jet skis are $12,000 to $24,000 on the site I'm looking at
43:00 <Warren1984> public swimming pool
43:00 <Abortion> Sydney harbour
43:00 <BlackDevil> full of children
43:00 <Warren1984> they are cool for the beach, riding waves
43:00 <Abortion> ...assuming you live there
43:05 <Abortion> you want something with a glide ratio that can still go straight up and down for takeoff/landing
43:06 <BlackDevil> in a pool
43:10 <Tigger_> new jet skis are $12,000 to $24,000 on the site I'm looking at
43:17 <Warren1984> public swimming pool
43:26 <Abortion> Sydney harbour
43:27 <BlackDevil> full of children
43:34 <Warren1984> they are cool for the beach, riding waves
43:35 <Abortion> ...assuming you live there
44:00 <BlackDevil> i heard steve irwin is still alive
44:10 <BlackDevil> i heard steve irwin is still alive
47:00 <McLoop> he is
47:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ jet ski's in Pelican point
47:00 <Abortion> I know, jet pack + wing suit
47:00 <McLoop> i heard elvis is alive too
47:00 <Tigger_> The longest ever journey on an aquabike (PWC) is 17,266.69 km (10,729 miles), by Adriaan Marais and Marinus du Plessis (both South Africa), who followed the west coast of North America south to the Panama Canal. They arrived in Panama City, Panama, after 95 days of navigation, on 19 September 2006. Using a satellite phone and a laptop computer they tote in a waterproof case, the men have updated a daily web diary at www.13000miles.com. The
47:00 <Tigger_> y spent an averae of 10 hours a day at sea cruising at an average of about 40 mph. They endured choppy, chilly sea, dehydration, mechanical breakdowns and makeshift lodgins including at Fort Bragg's harbour where a dock-leaping sea lion startled them at 2 a.m. in their sleeping bags.
47:21 <McLoop> he is
47:23 <Warren1984> Tigger_ jet ski's in Pelican point
47:34 <Abortion> I know, jet pack + wing suit
47:43 <McLoop> i heard elvis is alive too
47:49 <Tigger_> The longest ever journey on an aquabike (PWC) is 17,266.69 km (10,729 miles), by Adriaan Marais and Marinus du Plessis (both South Africa), who followed the west coast of North America south to the Panama Canal. They arrived in Panama City, Panama, after 95 days of navigation, on 19 September 2006. Using a satellite phone and a laptop computer they tote in a waterproof case, the men have updated a daily web diary at www.13000miles.com. The
47:49 <Tigger_> y spent an averae of 10 hours a day at sea cruising at an average of about 40 mph. They endured choppy, chilly sea, dehydration, mechanical breakdowns and makeshift lodgins including at Fort Bragg's harbour where a dock-leaping sea lion startled them at 2 a.m. in their sleeping bags.
48:00 <Abortion> figures it'd be along the coast, blue water is pretty dangerous and isolated
48:45 <Abortion> figures it'd be along the coast, blue water is pretty dangerous and isolated
49:00 <Tigger_> wing suits seem to be a guaranteed way to commit suicide, but in a fun way
49:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ while clip clop is drinking water at Diamantine river do you chase the crocodiles away on your jet ski?
49:00 <Abortion> with a jet pack, you should be able to achieve lift
49:00 <Abortion> in the wing suit
49:00 <Warren1984> do you ride the Jet Ski with a shot gun
49:13 <Tigger_> wing suits seem to be a guaranteed way to commit suicide, but in a fun way
49:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ while clip clop is drinking water at Diamantine river do you chase the crocodiles away on your jet ski?
49:30 <Abortion> with a jet pack, you should be able to achieve lift
49:37 <Abortion> in the wing suit
49:49 <Warren1984> do you ride the Jet Ski with a shot gun
50:00 <Abortion> That'd be great for a commute
50:00 <Tigger_> I think a jet ski engine would only aggravate crocodiles
50:00 <Abortion> fly over the traffic... annoy drivers... get in trouble with CASA...
50:20 <Abortion> That'd be great for a commute
50:26 <Tigger_> I think a jet ski engine would only aggravate crocodiles
50:46 <Abortion> fly over the traffic... annoy drivers... get in trouble with CASA...
51:00 <Tigger_> the wing suit would achieve lift for you, but not the jet ski
51:00 <Abortion> jet pack
51:00 <Tigger_> oh jet pack, sorry
51:00 <Abortion> or electic turbofan
51:00 <Abortion> probably more achievable
51:00 <McLoop> hovercraft
51:11 <Tigger_> the wing suit would achieve lift for you, but not the jet ski
51:21 <Abortion> jet pack
51:32 <Tigger_> oh jet pack, sorry
51:45 <Abortion> or electic turbofan
51:55 <Abortion> probably more achievable
51:55 <McLoop> hovercraft
52:00 <Tigger_> when I was a kid I thought hovercraft were going to be the way of the future
52:00 <McLoop> same they can drive on land ?
52:00 <McLoop> cant they
52:00 <Tigger_> yes, they can go on land and water
52:30 <Tigger_> when I was a kid I thought hovercraft were going to be the way of the future
52:46 <McLoop> same they can drive on land ?
52:49 <McLoop> cant they
52:58 <Tigger_> yes, they can go on land and water
53:00 <Tigger_> there are some military hovercraft that do this
53:00 <Tigger_> but commercial hovercraft mainly stick to water
53:15 <Tigger_> there are some military hovercraft that do this
53:29 <Tigger_> but commercial hovercraft mainly stick to water
55:00 <Tigger_> Putin's hovercraft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubr-class_LCAC
55:00 <progressive> [WIKIPEDIA] Zubr-class LCAC | "The Zubr-class (Project 1232.2, NATO reporting name "Pomornik") is a class of air-cushioned landing craft (LCAC). This class of military hovercraft is, as of 2012, the world’s largest, with a standard full load displacement of 555 tons. The hovercraft is designed to sealift amphibious assault units ..."
55:59 <Tigger_> Putin's hovercraft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubr-class_LCAC
55:59 <progressive> [WIKIPEDIA] Zubr-class LCAC | "The Zubr-class (Project 1232.2, NATO reporting name "Pomornik") is a class of air-cushioned landing craft (LCAC). This class of military hovercraft is, as of 2012, the world’s largest, with a standard full load displacement of 555 tons. The hovercraft is designed to sealift amphibious assault units ..."
57:00 <Abortion> lol so did I
57:00 <Abortion> yeah the commercial ones only go onto land when finishing up for the shift
57:20 <Abortion> lol so did I
57:47 <Abortion> yeah the commercial ones only go onto land when finishing up for the shift
58:00 <Abortion> More recently I learnt about ground effect craft
58:00 <Tigger_> what are they?
58:00 <Abortion> aircraft with only enough lift to get off the ground and fly above it, where the ground effect gives it extra lift
58:00 <Abortion> fly just above it
58:00 <Abortion> or water
58:07 <Abortion> More recently I learnt about ground effect craft
58:13 <Tigger_> what are they?
58:39 <Abortion> aircraft with only enough lift to get off the ground and fly above it, where the ground effect gives it extra lift
58:55 <Abortion> fly just above it
59:00 <Abortion> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle
59:00 <progressive> [WIKIPEDIA] Ground effect vehicle | "A ground effect vehicle (GEV) is one that attains level flight near the surface of the Earth, making use of the aerodynamic interaction between the wings and the surface known as ground effect. Best known are the Soviet ekranoplans, but names like wing-in-ground-effect (WIG), flarecraft, sea skimmer..."
59:00 <Tigger_> oh right, they turn up on slashdot sometimes, in with the prototype flying cars
59:02 <Abortion> or water
59:32 <Abortion> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle
59:32 <progressive> [WIKIPEDIA] Ground effect vehicle | "A ground effect vehicle (GEV) is one that attains level flight near the surface of the Earth, making use of the aerodynamic interaction between the wings and the surface known as ground effect. Best known are the Soviet ekranoplans, but names like wing-in-ground-effect (WIG), flarecraft, sea skimmer..."
59:38 <Tigger_> oh right, they turn up on slashdot sometimes, in with the prototype flying cars
00:00 <Abortion> I mention it only because hovercraft do something similar
00:52 <Abortion> I mention it only because hovercraft do something similar
01:00 <Abortion> except that hovercraft can be stationary, but ground effect vehicles have to come to land to be stationary
01:00 <Tigger_> highways would have to be built for them if they were used on land
01:00 <Abortion> well, or float on water
01:16 <Abortion> except that hovercraft can be stationary, but ground effect vehicles have to come to land to be stationary
01:46 <Tigger_> highways would have to be built for them if they were used on land
02:00 <Abortion> which seems to be the more common thing
02:00 <Abortion> yeah its only really viable for large craft on dedicated routes that they don't need to stop for anything
02:04 <Abortion> well, or float on water
02:09 <Abortion> which seems to be the more common thing
02:34 <Abortion> yeah its only really viable for large craft on dedicated routes that they don't need to stop for anything
03:00 <Tigger_> I suppose they'd have a few advantages, a plane crash usually results in all lives lost, these could potentially be much safer
03:56 <Tigger_> I suppose they'd have a few advantages, a plane crash usually results in all lives lost, these could potentially be much safer
08:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-06/obama-says-bomb-on-russian-plane-possibility/6918418
08:00 <progressive> [ Russian plane crash: US president Obama says bomb 'possibly' brought down Metrojet airliner - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
08:00 <Tigger_> that is just short of a confirmation that it was terrorism
08:48 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-06/obama-says-bomb-on-russian-plane-possibility/6918418
08:49 <progressive> [ Russian plane crash: US president Obama says bomb 'possibly' brought down Metrojet airliner - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
09:03 <Tigger_> that is just short of a confirmation that it was terrorism
10:00 <McLoop> wouldn't surprise me. no surprises it has happened to a russian plane after they started bombing in syria.
10:00 <Warren1984> they still use the word possibility
10:00 <Warren1984> rather than fact
10:26 <McLoop> wouldn't surprise me. no surprises it has happened to a russian plane after they started bombing in syria.
10:31 <Warren1984> they still use the word possibility
10:35 <Warren1984> rather than fact
11:00 <Tigger_> Obama would have been briefed that they're almost certain, but not quite, that it was terrorism
11:00 <Warren1984> they should avoid travel with all arab countries
11:35 <Tigger_> Obama would have been briefed that they're almost certain, but not quite, that it was terrorism
11:45 <Warren1984> they should avoid travel with all arab countries
12:00 <Warren1984> muslim predominant countries
12:00 <McLoop> and Russia likely knows it was a bomb and will just throw down an extra 100 bombs in syria
12:00 <Warren1984> soon they will attack eypt
12:00 <Tigger_> Putin will want to know exactly who was responsible
12:05 <Warren1984> muslim predominant countries
12:10 <McLoop> and Russia likely knows it was a bomb and will just throw down an extra 100 bombs in syria
12:32 <Warren1984> soon they will attack eypt
13:00 <Tigger_> Putin will want to know exactly who was responsible
13:00 <Warren1984> It's all America's and Russia's fault anyway
13:00 <Warren1984> they want the oil
13:00 <Warren1984> they should just stop buying oil from them
13:00 <Warren1984> oil funds terrorism
13:00 <McLoop> the middle east has been at war forever, no matter what anyone does. they will continue to be at war
13:05 <Warren1984> It's all America's and Russia's fault anyway
13:13 <Warren1984> they want the oil
13:29 <Warren1984> they should just stop buying oil from them
13:41 <Warren1984> oil funds terrorism
14:00 <McLoop> the middle east has been at war forever, no matter what anyone does. they will continue to be at war
14:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ it's not the front of the news.com.au headlines
14:00 <McLoop> they'll just blame it on israel.
14:00 <Warren1984> so I doubt it was a terror attack
14:00 <Tigger_> it's on the ABC site
14:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_ it's not the front of the news.com.au headlines
14:25 <McLoop> they'll just blame it on israel.
14:31 <Warren1984> so I doubt it was a terror attack
14:36 <Tigger_> it's on the ABC site
18:00 <McLoop> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-06/dangerous-sex-offender-dennis-john-lyddieth-to-be-released/6918900?section=wa
18:00 <progressive> [ Dangerous sex offender Dennis John Lyddieth to be released from Perth jail - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
18:00 <McLoop> how can they release this man?
18:50 <McLoop> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-06/dangerous-sex-offender-dennis-john-lyddieth-to-be-released/6918900?section=wa
18:51 <progressive> [ Dangerous sex offender Dennis John Lyddieth to be released from Perth jail - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
19:00 <McLoop> how can they release this man?
19:00 <McLoop> won't give it long before he is back in jail
19:22 <McLoop> won't give it long before he is back in jail
20:00 <Tigger_> yes, they can not be changed
20:17 <Tigger_> yes, they can not be changed
45:00 <Warren1984> it's raining here
45:00 <McLoop> just stopped
45:47 <Warren1984> it's raining here
45:57 <McLoop> just stopped
04:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ have you emptied your stinker today?
04:41 <Warren1984> Tigger_ have you emptied your stinker today?
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09:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what practical application are you going to use today?
09:00 <Warren1984> or make today?
09:47 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what practical application are you going to use today?
09:53 <Warren1984> or make today?
10:00 <Tigger_> the practical thing I did today was to go through every room in the house with a broom cleaning the cobwebs from the ceiling
10:28 <Tigger_> the practical thing I did today was to go through every room in the house with a broom cleaning the cobwebs from the ceiling
25:00 <Warren1984> I wonder if you can just study the theory of Mechanic
25:00 <Warren1984> mechanics
25:38 <Warren1984> I wonder if you can just study the theory of Mechanic
25:43 <Warren1984> mechanics
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30:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
30:50 <Warren1984> hey doctor
32:00 <doctor> hey warren
32:46 <doctor> hey warren
33:00 <Tigger_> hello doctor 
33:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, the theory of mechanics is called physics
33:00 <doctor> hey tigger
33:12 <Tigger_> hello doctor
33:21 <Tigger_> Warren1984, the theory of mechanics is called physics
33:46 <doctor> hey tigger
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51:00 <Abortion> Not quite, Mechanics is a subset of physics
51:00 <Abortion> If you studied physics you'd study more than just mechanics
51:08 <Abortion> Not quite, Mechanics is a subset of physics
51:54 <Abortion> If you studied physics you'd study more than just mechanics
53:00 <Warren1984> Physics is the hardest subject to understand in the world
53:00 <Tigger_> I know, but a lot of caveats become less succinct
53:00 <Abortion> compared to chemistry?
53:06 <Warren1984> Physics is the hardest subject to understand in the world
53:11 <Tigger_> I know, but a lot of caveats become less succinct
53:48 <Abortion> compared to chemistry?
54:00 <Warren1984> yeah much harder than chemistry
54:00 <Warren1984> because Physics isn't definitive
54:00 <Tigger_> physics, philosophy, economics, and theology all require a 130+ IQ to get anywhere
54:30 <Warren1984> yeah much harder than chemistry
54:42 <Warren1984> because Physics isn't definitive
54:50 <Tigger_> physics, philosophy, economics, and theology all require a 130+ IQ to get anywhere
55:00 <Abortion> What about biology, biology has the sheer weight of stuff
55:00 <Warren1984> Albert Einstien was a Physicist
55:00 <Abortion> loads of exceptions
55:00 <Warren1984> biology is one of the easiest sciences to understand
55:00 <Abortion> At a basic level perhaps
55:10 <Abortion> What about biology, biology has the sheer weight of stuff
55:14 <Warren1984> Albert Einstien was a Physicist
55:25 <Abortion> loads of exceptions
55:31 <Warren1984> biology is one of the easiest sciences to understand
55:42 <Abortion> At a basic level perhaps
56:00 <McLoop> weird science
56:00 <Tigger_> well it is interesting that biologists often don't make their mark till quite late in their careers, like Darwin as a famous example, authority only comes with accumulated knowledge
56:00 <Abortion> yeah, its difficult due to the high degree of interdependence
56:00 <Abortion> harder to specialise
56:00 <Warren1984> Einstien was more intelligent than Darwin though
56:21 <McLoop> weird science
56:25 <Tigger_> well it is interesting that biologists often don't make their mark till quite late in their careers, like Darwin as a famous example, authority only comes with accumulated knowledge
56:49 <Abortion> yeah, its difficult due to the high degree of interdependence
56:53 <Abortion> harder to specialise
57:00 <Abortion> they were also seperated by many years
57:00 <Tigger_> I don't know which was smarter, but Darwin and Einstein both said remarkably stupid things
57:00 <Warren1984> evolution is not really that hard to understand
57:00 <Abortion> Only as a general concept
57:00 <Warren1984> evolution relates to genetics
57:00 <Abortion> Many people still misunderstand and misattribute natural selection
57:02 <Warren1984> Einstien was more intelligent than Darwin though
57:12 <Abortion> they were also seperated by many years
57:26 <Tigger_> I don't know which was smarter, but Darwin and Einstein both said remarkably stupid things
57:30 <Warren1984> evolution is not really that hard to understand
57:39 <Abortion> Only as a general concept
57:55 <Warren1984> evolution relates to genetics
58:00 <Warren1984> natural selection is not evolution
58:00 <Warren1984> and was not discovered by Darwin
58:00 <Abortion> It is a mechanism of evolution
58:00 <Warren1984> It was discovered by another scientist
58:00 <Abortion> So? 
58:00 <Warren1984> so it's unrelated
58:01 <Abortion> Many people still misunderstand and misattribute natural selection
58:17 <Warren1984> natural selection is not evolution
58:26 <Warren1984> and was not discovered by Darwin
58:27 <Abortion> It is a mechanism of evolution
58:42 <Warren1984> It was discovered by another scientist
58:56 <Abortion> So?
59:00 <Warren1984> evolution is simply the understanding of change
59:00 <Abortion> if that is what you think, you completely misunderstand science
59:00 <Warren1984> simply put everything changes
59:00 <Tigger_> Darwin lost his faith in God when his children died from genetic abnormalities, since he married his cousin.  how can a biologist of all people be that stupid?
59:00 <Abortion> The person who discovers something does not dictate the scope of the field
59:00 <Warren1984> but they are not the same thing
59:01 <Warren1984> so it's unrelated
59:13 <Warren1984> evolution is simply the understanding of change
59:18 <Abortion> if that is what you think, you completely misunderstand science
59:23 <Warren1984> simply put everything changes
59:25 <Tigger_> Darwin lost his faith in God when his children died from genetic abnormalities, since he married his cousin. how can a biologist of all people be that stupid?
59:39 <Abortion> The person who discovers something does not dictate the scope of the field
59:57 <Warren1984> but they are not the same thing
00:00 <Abortion> No but they are related
00:00 <Warren1984> survival of the fittest claims human's are the ultimate form of evolution
00:00 <Abortion> you said they were not
00:00 <Warren1984> when we are not
00:00 <Abortion> uh, not really
00:00 <Warren1984> what if some super bug wipes out humans tomorrow?
00:00 <Abortion> thats what pundits have summarised
00:00 <Abortion> it really has nothing to do with what science has concluded
00:07 <Abortion> No but they are related
00:15 <Warren1984> survival of the fittest claims human's are the ultimate form of evolution
00:18 <Abortion> you said they were not
00:21 <Warren1984> when we are not
00:29 <Abortion> uh, not really
00:38 <Warren1984> what if some super bug wipes out humans tomorrow?
00:40 <Abortion> thats what pundits have summarised
00:45 <Abortion> it really has nothing to do with what science has concluded
01:00 <Abortion> Survival of the fittest is also only one mechanism of natural selection
01:00 <Abortion> See this is why bio is hard, you can't point to a single thing
01:00 <Abortion> there are so many interdependancies you need a broad understanding to make sense of anything
01:00 <Tigger_> and Einstein was a socialist, showing that brilliance in science does not confer wisdom in economics, no more than any random person off the street
01:07 <Abortion> Survival of the fittest is also only one mechanism of natural selection
01:27 <Abortion> See this is why bio is hard, you can't point to a single thing
01:36 <Abortion> there are so many interdependancies you need a broad understanding to make sense of anything
01:54 <Tigger_> and Einstein was a socialist, showing that brilliance in science does not confer wisdom in economics, no more than any random person off the street
02:00 <Abortion> He was also wrong about other aspects of science
02:00 <Tigger_> you only know the ultimate form of evolution once it's all over
02:09 <Abortion> He was also wrong about other aspects of science
02:31 <Tigger_> you only know the ultimate form of evolution once it's all over
03:00 <Abortion> Science prides itself on being able to get away from the beliefs of an individual, allowing cooperation to result in better results than any small group could achieve
03:00 <Abortion> We acknowledge his vast contribution, but accept he was not perfect
03:06 <Abortion> Science prides itself on being able to get away from the beliefs of an individual, allowing cooperation to result in better results than any small group could achieve
03:23 <Abortion> We acknowledge his vast contribution, but accept he was not perfect
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05:00 <Tigger_> I cite that as more a rebuke to the widely held authority of science, that all valid questions are science questions, and scientists are best able to answer them
05:30 <Tigger_> I cite that as more a rebuke to the widely held authority of science, that all valid questions are science questions, and scientists are best able to answer them
07:00 <Abortion> Thats still subject to hindsight. Fact is social theory is more disputed and turns over much quicker than science. Scientists may not be any better, but the advantage of particular people in the field isn't dramatically better in all cases
07:11 <Abortion> Thats still subject to hindsight. Fact is social theory is more disputed and turns over much quicker than science. Scientists may not be any better, but the advantage of particular people in the field isn't dramatically better in all cases
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09:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should people have to compulsory join the military after completion of school for at least 2 years?
09:00 <Tigger_> no
09:00 <Warren1984> that way they can teach boys to be men
09:00 <Warren1984> to look after themselves
09:00 <Abortion> define men
09:00 <Warren1984> someone over 17
09:00 <Warren1984> why not Tigger_?
09:05 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should people have to compulsory join the military after completion of school for at least 2 years?
09:14 <Tigger_> no
09:18 <Warren1984> that way they can teach boys to be men
09:23 <Warren1984> to look after themselves
09:27 <Abortion> define men
09:37 <Warren1984> someone over 17
09:44 <Warren1984> why not Tigger_?
10:00 <Abortion> so you're saying boys cannot age until they've been taught to be men?
10:00 <sjklf> i have an israeli defensse force tshirt
10:00 <Tigger_> because in the army everyone has showers together
10:00 <sjklf> yuk
10:00 <Abortion> unless they're officers
10:05 <Abortion> so you're saying boys cannot age until they've been taught to be men?
10:14 <sjklf> i have an israeli defensse force tshirt
10:21 <Tigger_> because in the army everyone has showers together
10:42 <sjklf> yuk
10:58 <Abortion> unless they're officers
11:00 <sjklf> lolol
11:00 <Abortion> I imagine thats one of the perks of a higher ranking
11:00 <Abortion> private quarters
11:00 <Tigger_> it's also one of the perks of not being in the army
11:00 <Abortion> lol indeed
11:00 <sjklf> lollllll
11:09 <sjklf> lolol
11:09 <Abortion> I imagine thats one of the perks of a higher ranking
11:17 <Abortion> private quarters
11:25 <Tigger_> it's also one of the perks of not being in the army
11:32 <Abortion> lol indeed
12:01 <sjklf> lollllll
13:00 <Abortion> Israel has compulsory training due to their place in the middle east. They also have 3 person teams roving everywhere, usually one person with an antivehicle weapon
13:14 <Abortion> Israel has compulsory training due to their place in the middle east. They also have 3 person teams roving everywhere, usually one person with an antivehicle weapon
14:00 <Abortion> This has nothing to do with being men, however. The implication for what makes a man is self reliance, judging by what you've said, Warren1984. There are surely other methods to doing so and I also dispute that all persons entering the forces would really be viable "men"
14:00 <Tigger_> the IDF conscripts women too, are they taught to be men?
14:00 <Abortion> haha
14:24 <Abortion> This has nothing to do with being men, however. The implication for what makes a man is self reliance, judging by what you've said, Warren1984. There are surely other methods to doing so and I also dispute that all persons entering the forces would really be viable "men"
14:52 <Tigger_> the IDF conscripts women too, are they taught to be men?
14:57 <Abortion> haha
16:00 <Abortion> Well the women can fight
16:50 <Abortion> Well the women can fight
17:00 <Abortion> I did mention that story I heard of a guy who came back from israel with broken arms from trying to pick up
17:00 <sjklf> lol
17:30 <Abortion> I did mention that story I heard of a guy who came back from israel with broken arms from trying to pick up
17:50 <sjklf> lol
18:00 <McLoop> i thought u just said i knew a guy who came back from israel with arms for legs and legs for arms
18:00 <McLoop> i was like what the.
18:00 <doctor> good to have strong women on your side
18:00 <Tigger_> why did they break his arms?
18:00 <Abortion> Because she didn't want to be pestered and he kept pestering her
18:00 <Tigger_> it seems like a bit of an overreaction
18:14 <McLoop> i thought u just said i knew a guy who came back from israel with arms for legs and legs for arms
18:19 <McLoop> i was like what the.
18:21 <doctor> good to have strong women on your side
18:23 <Tigger_> why did they break his arms?
18:39 <Abortion> Because she didn't want to be pestered and he kept pestering her
19:00 <Abortion> maybe
19:00 <Abortion> effective deterrant though
19:00 <Abortion> kind of like airport security :P
19:00 <doctor> maybe he just fell over and wanted a cool story to tell to his friends when he got back
19:00 <Abortion> lol that'd be pretty sad
19:03 <Tigger_> it seems like a bit of an overreaction
19:09 <Abortion> maybe
19:18 <Abortion> effective deterrant though
19:26 <Abortion> kind of like airport security :P
19:37 <doctor> maybe he just fell over and wanted a cool story to tell to his friends when he got back
19:46 <Abortion> lol that'd be pretty sad
20:00 <doctor> true
20:16 <doctor> true
21:00 <Tigger_> maybe he was caught peeking into the IDF female showers
21:59 <Tigger_> maybe he was caught peeking into the IDF female showers
22:00 <Abortion> idk, I reckon that'd make for a better story though
22:00 <Abortion> people like telling better stories
22:36 <Abortion> idk, I reckon that'd make for a better story though
22:43 <Abortion> people like telling better stories
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31:40 <ajnin> hi
31:52 <Tigger_> hi ajnin
36:40 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you have a list of all your financial goals?
36:57 <Tigger_> the list is this:
37:04 <Tigger_> 1. have more money
37:32 <Warren1984> that is being too vague
37:50 <Warren1984> I am taking about concrete objects
38:02 <Warren1984> what concrete things are you saving up for?
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38:42 <Warren1984> ok so you want money
39:01 <Tigger_> I save money to have more money
39:08 <Warren1984> but what things do you want your money to buy?
39:16 <Tigger_> I am saving up to have more money
39:28 <Warren1984> your not answering my question
39:34 <Tigger_> I am
39:40 <Warren1984> I understand you want more money
39:42 <Tigger_> my only objective is to have more money
39:51 <Tigger_> I'm not saving for anything
39:53 <Warren1984> however I want to know what you want to buy with it
40:05 <Tigger_> I'll worry about that in the future
40:57 <Warren1984> it's more motivating to know what you want to purchase specifically
41:00 <Tigger_> I don't know what I want to do with it yet
41:24 <Tigger_> maybe they will invent something one day that I'll really want
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42:57 <Warren1984> you need to write down a list and give them a timeframe
43:42 <Tigger_> what if they invent disco shoes that do the dancing for you, and you just wear them so you automatically dance, even if you're no good at dancing
43:50 <Abortion> General prudence
44:05 <Abortion> write down goals for actual achieving it
44:15 <Abortion> it is clear what you'd do with money
44:20 <Abortion> putting a $ figure won't really help
44:23 <Tigger_> I will have saved up for the disco shoes before even knowing that they existed
44:51 <Warren1984> disco shoes?
45:18 <Abortion> In general, goals for things only help if you're trying to deal with opportunity cost, a thing goal only takes you so far otherwise
45:32 <Tigger_> yes, disco shoes
45:34 <Abortion> Set career goals
46:59 <Warren1984> career goals are not that easy anymore
47:09 <Warren1984> why would you want disco shoes?
47:15 <Warren1984> and where would you use them?
47:44 <Warren1984> Tigger_ how come none of your financial goals are about giving money to others i.e. charities
48:06 <Tigger_> well say that you wanted to go do the disco, but were no good at dancing, automatic disco shoes would help
48:25 <Tigger_> because I don't agree with the goals of most charities
48:33 <Warren1984> how come?
48:46 <Abortion> One of the problems is most charities are not transparent
49:04 <McLoop> most charities funnel money into the directors pockets
49:13 <Abortion> I give to the Red cross because they are pretty clear about what they do with the money. I don't trust any I haven't heard of.
49:35 <Abortion> Only a small amount though
49:46 <Abortion> 10/mo
49:52 <Tigger_> well Red Cross is one I wouldn't support, but not because of issues of transparency, but that they call themselves Red Crescent in Islamic countries
50:01 <Abortion> I am aware of that
50:15 <Abortion> they also pay off war lords so they can actually access people in need
50:27 <Tigger_> I didn't know that
50:44 <Abortion> when you're in backwaters, you gotta grease the right palms
50:50 <Abortion> seems to apply to humanitarian work as well
51:42 <Abortion> Their objective is to be on the ground helping people, and don't pay attention to any other principles
51:56 <Abortion> They will lie about superstition so people don't get suspicious about them
52:01 <Abortion> and let them help
52:02 <Tigger_> but charities in the third world are partly responsible for the demographic boom that may engulf us all, so I'd only donate to a charity that aims to stop charities
52:57 <Abortion> lol, in the sims, there is an option to "undermine charities" which is only available if you have the evil personality trait
53:07 <Tigger_> that's good
53:10 <Tigger_> how does that work?
53:37 <Abortion> like any other chartiable giving, gives you (or the sim rather) happy thoughts
53:43 <Abortion> and not miuch else lol
53:53 <Abortion> I mean, like real life
54:18 <Abortion> I do get email from red cross now, which I never read and am annoyed about
54:31 <Abortion> All I care about is I'm giving to some charity so I can basically beat the rest off with that stick
54:46 <Abortion> and not worry about how I'm not a giving person
55:14 <Tigger_> yes, once they have your name and email address, they're aggressive spammers, they're exempt from anti-spam laws
55:26 <Abortion> eh, its a simple filter
55:54 <Abortion> I get a fair bit of material which I simply press the done button on in google inbox without reading
56:05 <McLoop> give to me Abortion
56:10 <Abortion> usually in the promos or updates box
56:18 <Abortion> McLoop: No I'm already to give to charity
56:23 <McLoop> charity begins at home
56:37 <Abortion> Already giving, fuck off
56:43 <Abortion> and thats why I have a recurring charity contribution
57:12 <Abortion> also that first to was erroneous
57:17 <McLoop> don't tell me to fuck off!
57:46 <Abortion> If you're gonna beg
57:52 <Abortion> I'm gonna get pissed
57:59 <Abortion> cause > effect
58:14 <McLoop> lol
58:28 <Abortion> also I'm now thinking of the second matrix movie
58:41 <Abortion> "I had too much wine and now I have to pee"
58:58 <Tigger_> I might start a joke charity, raising money to buy fake beards for muslim men who can't grow beards
59:25 <Abortion> In one town under isis control, they've started puniishing men who don't grow beards
59:39 <Abortion> one guy who has some skin condition when he doesn't shave was pretty scared
59:53 <Abortion> Grow beard and get skin condition, or shave and be punished
00:41 <Abortion> Maybe with your charity, he can have a beard and not get his skin condition
01:07 <Tigger_> I'd have posters featuring him, and underneath say "Only you can make him Sharia compliant"
01:20 <Abortion> haha
01:44 <Abortion> the political commentary is the reason ISIS enforced that is it makes it harder to make out who are the extremists and who is just trying to get by
03:34 <Tigger_> it would make it easier for the ISIS jihadists to blend in, though I just assumed they were going through the Sharia law bullet point list
04:08 <Abortion> It probably is sharia law, but like anything political, that stuff is enforced capriciously to an end, and yes for exactly that reason: to blend in
05:30 <Abortion> I mean, they'll probably implement the rest later, but they'll be choosy for the time being
08:10 <Tigger_> http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/259281-all-indicators-suggest-isis-bombed-plane-says-homeland-chairman
08:10 <progressive> [ 'All indicators' suggest ISIS bombed plane, says Homeland chairman | TheHill ] - thehill.com
11:24 <Abortion> lol its futile though
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11:32 <Abortion> Russia will just hit back harder
11:59 <McLoop> correct
12:08 <Abortion> Russia isn't scared to wage war, and this adds to their Casus belli
12:22 <Tigger_> they can, but these operatives are not in Syria, so won't be directly affected by a bombing campaign there
12:58 <Tigger_> perhaps the established Al Qaeda network around the world is working with ISIS now
13:10 <Abortion> Wouldn't suprise me
13:38 <Abortion> Given the rebels originally included a branch from Al Quaeda and ISIS sprang out of the Syrial Revolution
13:46 <Abortion> *Syrian
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16:17 <McLoop> the US just funds these rebels and militias in these countries then sells weapons to em
16:26 <McLoop> war is big business
16:40 <McLoop> no incentive for it to stop
17:05 <Tigger_> the refugee flood into Europe has probably brought thousands of potential sleeper agents too
20:34 <Tigger_> so I can envisage a scenario where the bombings in Syria become futile, as each time there's a terrorist response elsewhere in our multicultural world
30:40 <Abortion> If ISIS were to fall, then yeah I guess a bunch of them would just go nuts and do random destructive things (not all of them, but some will)
31:27 <Abortion> looks like I'm signed up for a classical music Q&A
31:47 <Tigger_> ISIS probably will fail one way or the other, it's still more failed state than rogue state like North Korea
31:51 <Tigger_> what is that?
32:40 <Abortion> It is a short session with someone from the adelaide symphony orchestra called "Everything you wanted to know about classical music but were too afraid to ask"
32:58 <Abortion> even though, being a Q&A, we'll have to ask it
33:37 <Tigger_> I'd put the question to them: wasn't the baroque era really the peak? and it's been all downhill since?
33:48 <Abortion> hah
33:56 <Abortion> I wonder if someone will ask that
34:00 <Abortion> I probably won't
34:51 <Abortion> Though I might reword it "Is a strategy being formulated to restore the popularity of classical music, and/or do you think it'd be a good idea"
35:50 <Abortion> Implicit in there is the reduction of popularity, and it deals with the philosophical issue of, is some music better than others
36:22 <Tigger_> you could ask them their opinion on the never dying question of is trance/progressive house a modern incarnation of classical?
38:48 <Abortion> Nah
38:56 <Abortion> The answer is pretty predicable
39:02 <Tigger_> what will they say?
40:09 <Abortion> "No, the use of musical devices is completely dissimilar, and simply being progressive is not sufficient to make it similar to classical music"
40:55 <Tigger_> it is something I've wondered about as orchestral performances of trance/progressive sound a lot like Phillip Glass, or Steve Reich, etc.
41:17 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/russia-sends-missile-systems-to-syria/story-e6frfkui-1227597739605
41:18 <progressive> [ Russia 'sends missile systems to Syria' ] - www.news.com.au
42:11 <Tigger_> so I'd be curious about a non-insecure opinion on that
46:42 <Abortion> Given that aficionados of classical music are more often considered elitist, where is the line between insecurity and elitism
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47:18 <Tigger_> elitism comes with a sack of insecurity
48:56 <Tigger_> though I always had the impression that jazz people were more elitist and insecure, since their style crosses over more with popular music, so the lines of demarcation need to be maintained
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56:04 <Tigger_> politically correct episode of the day: Mungo Man remains 'returned' to an aboriginal tribe with an apology, even though he's not genetically related to any aborigines: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-06/anu-apologises-as-mungo-man-returned-to-traditional-owners/6919712
56:05 <progressive> [ Australian National University offers apology to elders as Mungo Man remains handed back to traditional owners - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
06:15 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what is the cause of others not being interested in others?
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07:57 <Tigger_> Warren1984, this: http://i.imgur.com/r5FyoIu.jpg
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16:00 <Warren1984> lol Tigger_
16:21 <Warren1984> lol Tigger_
42:00 <Tigger_> <Abortion> I know, jet pack + wing suit   <- it actually exists: http://imgur.com/gallery/AktqqEo
42:00 <progressive> [ So jetpacks are a thing now - GIF on Imgur ] - imgur.com
42:47 <Tigger_> <Abortion> I know, jet pack + wing suit <- it actually exists: http://imgur.com/gallery/AktqqEo
42:47 <progressive> [ So jetpacks are a thing now - GIF on Imgur ] - imgur.com
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59:30 <Glenn> Tigger_... you missed two jetpack pilots doing a stunt flight next to an Emerite A380 over Dubai. Very spectacular!
00:00 <Tigger_> oh right, well there's always youtube
00:03 <Glenn> Channel 7 news, about 10 minutes ago.
00:19 <Tigger_> oh right, well there's always youtube
00:35 <Glenn> Yeah... bound to be on there.
01:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woqPoAf5jRQ
01:00 <progressive> [ Incredible video shows jetpack pilots flying over Dubai alongside Emirates A380 plane - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
01:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Incredible video shows jetpack pilots flying over Dubai alongside Emirates A380 plane (Nov 5, 2015) Time: 2:06 - Category: People & Blogs - 24 views views - 0 likes (0%), 0 dislikes (0%)
01:47 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woqPoAf5jRQ
01:49 <progressive> [ Incredible video shows jetpack pilots flying over Dubai alongside Emirates A380 plane - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
01:51 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Incredible video shows jetpack pilots flying over Dubai alongside Emirates A380 plane (Nov 5, 2015) Time: 2:06 - Category: People & Blogs - 24 views views - 0 likes (0%), 0 dislikes (0%)
02:20 <Glenn> ---> http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/this-video-of-two-men-in-jetpacks-flying-alongside-an-a380-airbus-is-just-incredible--b1brLGFHTOx
04:00 <Tigger_> the Batman films seem a lot more plausible when you see stuff like this
04:17 <Tigger_> the Batman films seem a lot more plausible when you see stuff like this
32:00 <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/8LWIx6S.jpg
32:00 <doctor> dubai
32:51 <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/8LWIx6S.jpg
32:57 <doctor> dubai
33:00 <doctor> silly person
33:00 <doctor> i dont think she'd get much sympathy
33:45 <doctor> silly person
33:55 <doctor> i dont think she'd get much sympathy
35:00 <Tigger_> hi Lish 
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35:59 <Tigger_> hi Lish
36:00 <Lish> Hey
36:00 <Lish> What's happening 
36:00 <Tigger_> doctor, it's somebody else's fault
36:00 <Lish> What is
36:00 <Tigger_> <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/8LWIx6S.jpg
36:10 <Lish> Hey
36:12 <Lish> What's happening
36:21 <Tigger_> doctor, it's somebody else's fault
36:50 <Lish> What is
36:59 <Tigger_> <Tigger_> http://i.imgur.com/8LWIx6S.jpg
37:00 <doctor> maybe in her own mind
37:00 <Lish> That is a freakishly small door though 
37:00 <Tigger_> yes, it's the architect's fault
37:06 <doctor> maybe in her own mind
37:45 <Lish> That is a freakishly small door though
37:58 <Tigger_> yes, it's the architect's fault
38:00 <Lish> I couldn't live someone with a non standard door
38:00 <Lish> It's creepy
38:00 <Tigger_> a very insensitive architect
38:17 <Lish> I couldn't live someone with a non standard door
38:18 <Lish> It's creepy
38:26 <Tigger_> a very insensitive architect
39:00 <Lish> I don't think she's saying anything like that though
39:00 <circle> selena gomez is ugly
39:00 <circle> looks 8 years old
39:00 <Lish> Yeah Selene Gomez looks so young, it's really creepy
39:00 <Lish> She sings thing sexy song but it feels wrong
39:00 <circle> hahaha
39:00 <circle> looking young is good
39:00 <circle> but looking 8 years old
39:00 <circle> is fucking retarded
39:00 <Lish> Yeah she looks like a child
39:00 <circle> yep
39:10 <Lish> I don't think she's saying anything like that though
39:10 <circle> selena gomez is ugly
39:13 <circle> looks 8 years old
39:30 <Lish> Yeah Selene Gomez looks so young, it's really creepy
39:36 <Lish> She sings thing sexy song but it feels wrong
39:43 <circle> hahaha
39:46 <circle> looking young is good
39:48 <circle> but looking 8 years old
39:50 <circle> is fucking retarded
39:54 <Lish> Yeah she looks like a child
40:00 <Lish> It makes me uncomfortable
40:00 <Lish> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TsVjvEkc4s
40:00 <progressive> [ Selena Gomez - Good For You - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
40:00 <Lish> For tigger
40:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Selena Gomez - Good For You (Jun 26, 2015) Time: 3:15 - Category: Music - 174,280,285 views - 1,368,174 likes (93.1%), dislikes (6.9%)
40:03 <circle> yep
40:07 <Lish> It makes me uncomfortable
40:39 <Lish> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TsVjvEkc4s
40:39 <progressive> [ Selena Gomez - Good For You - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
40:41 <Lish> For tigger
40:43 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Selena Gomez - Good For You (Jun 26, 2015) Time: 3:15 - Category: Music - 174,280,285 views - 1,368,174 likes (93.1%), dislikes (6.9%)
42:00 <Tigger_> shower scene
42:00 <Lish> Looks like a child, yes
42:24 <Tigger_> shower scene
42:43 <Lish> Looks like a child, yes
43:00 <Lish> I get that song in my head all the time, but it's annoying because it's hardly even a song
43:00 <Lish> She just talks
43:18 <Lish> I get that song in my head all the time, but it's annoying because it's hardly even a song
43:21 <Lish> She just talks
44:00 <Tigger_> I was just about to say that, there is no music
44:00 <Tigger_> it's just production sound effects
44:16 <Tigger_> I was just about to say that, there is no music
44:54 <Tigger_> it's just production sound effects
45:00 <Lish> yeah it's annoying
45:20 <Lish> yeah it's annoying
46:00 <Lish> My toe hurts a lot today
46:22 <Lish> My toe hurts a lot today
47:00 <Tigger_> this is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlA7L8bUBg
47:00 <progressive> [ Tiësto featuring Children of Orpheus - Suburban Train - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
47:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tiësto featuring Children of Orpheus - Suburban Train (Jan 18, 2012) Time: 6:56 - Category: Music - 105,575 views - 1,101 likes (98.7%), 14 dislikes (1.3%)
47:09 <Tigger_> this is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBlA7L8bUBg
47:09 <progressive> [ Tiësto featuring Children of Orpheus - Suburban Train - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
47:13 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Tiësto featuring Children of Orpheus - Suburban Train (Jan 18, 2012) Time: 6:56 - Category: Music - 105,575 views - 1,101 likes (98.7%), 14 dislikes (1.3%)
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52:00 <Lish> Nope
52:52 <Lish> Nope
54:00 <Tigger_> wrong
54:11 <Tigger_> wrong
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58:00 <Lish> I need to turn the fire down
58:00 <Lish> I'm too hot
58:09 <Lish> I need to turn the fire down
58:11 <Lish> I'm too hot
59:00 <Tigger_> it was hot here this afternoon, only cooling down now
59:45 <Tigger_> it was hot here this afternoon, only cooling down now
00:00 <Lish> It's been raining all day here
00:09 <Lish> It's been raining all day here
02:00 <Tigger_> lucky
02:09 <Tigger_> lucky
03:00 <Lish> Nah it's lame
03:49 <Lish> Nah it's lame
04:00 <Tigger_> there's supposed to be a storm coming here, but no sign of it yet
04:33 <Tigger_> there's supposed to be a storm coming here, but no sign of it yet
08:00 <Lish> Quiet here tonight 
08:38 <Lish> Quiet here tonight
09:00 <Tigger_> it was busy this afternoon
09:37 <Tigger_> it was busy this afternoon
10:00 <Lish> All the nutters have gone out partying
10:00 <Tigger_> we discussed whether there should be two years conscription in the army after high school
10:31 <Lish> All the nutters have gone out partying
10:55 <Tigger_> we discussed whether there should be two years conscription in the army after high school
11:00 <Lish> That's weird
11:00 <Tigger_> I said no, because they all have showers together
11:00 <Lish> I was talking about something similar today
11:00 <Tigger_> what?
11:00 <Lish> A friend was saying in turkey they have to join the army for 2 years
11:05 <Lish> That's weird
11:05 <Tigger_> I said no, because they all have showers together
11:11 <Lish> I was talking about something similar today
11:30 <Tigger_> what?
11:57 <Lish> A friend was saying in turkey they have to join the army for 2 years
12:00 <Lish> So she wasn't going to make her son a dual citizen 
12:00 <Lish> Or something 
12:00 <Tigger_> so she's a muslim
12:05 <Lish> So she wasn't going to make her son a dual citizen
12:07 <Lish> Or something
12:26 <Tigger_> so she's a muslim
13:00 <Lish> Indeed
13:00 <Tigger_> you should've asked "I bet you were so happy when that Russian passenger jet blew up with all the innocent people"
13:10 <Lish> Indeed
13:41 <Tigger_> you should've asked "I bet you were so happy when that Russian passenger jet blew up with all the innocent people"
14:00 <Tigger_> but he should go into the Turkish army for two years, so then he can have showers with the other men
14:00 <Lish> I don't know about any Russian key
14:00 <Lish> Jet
14:00 <Lish> But no I wouldn't say that 
14:24 <Tigger_> but he should go into the Turkish army for two years, so then he can have showers with the other men
14:35 <Lish> I don't know about any Russian key
14:38 <Lish> Jet
14:42 <Lish> But no I wouldn't say that
16:00 <Tigger_> why not?  she would've been very happy
16:00 <Lish> Because I'm not weird
16:00 <Lish> She's my friend 
16:05 <Tigger_> why not? she would've been very happy
16:36 <Lish> Because I'm not weird
16:38 <Lish> She's my friend
17:00 <Lish> How did you know people from turkey are Muslim
17:00 <Tigger_> because I read books
17:00 <Lish> Interesting concept
17:00 <Lish> I didn't know they were Muslim
17:06 <Lish> How did you know people from turkey are Muslim
17:16 <Tigger_> because I read books
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17:55 <Lish> Interesting concept
18:00 <Lish> Well I did because I've known my friend for like 10 years haha but before that 
18:00 <Tigger_> it's only the turning point in history that caused the fall of Byzantium and subsequent Renaissance
18:01 <Lish> I didn't know they were Muslim
18:19 <Lish> Well I did because I've known my friend for like 10 years haha but before that
18:58 <Tigger_> it's only the turning point in history that caused the fall of Byzantium and subsequent Renaissance
19:00 <Tigger_> so boring
19:00 <Lish> Very
19:08 <Tigger_> so boring
19:42 <Lish> Very
21:00 <Lish> I don't notice she is Muslim
21:00 <Lish> Only that she doesn't eat ham
21:00 <Lish> Awful
21:17 <Lish> I don't notice she is Muslim
21:21 <Lish> Only that she doesn't eat ham
21:22 <Lish> Awful
22:00 <Tigger_> yes she is
22:00 <Lish> You're awful because you don't eat ham either 
22:12 <Tigger_> yes she is
22:31 <Lish> You're awful because you don't eat ham either
23:00 <Tigger_> no
23:00 <Tigger_> I don't eat any animals
23:00 <Lish> Ham is so good 
23:22 <Tigger_> no
23:29 <Tigger_> I don't eat any animals
23:36 <Lish> Ham is so good
25:00 <Tigger_> terrible
25:00 <Tigger_> warren likes bacon a lot
25:16 <Tigger_> terrible
25:32 <Tigger_> warren likes bacon a lot
26:00 <Tigger_> They might seem a harmless lunchtime filler but ham, salami and devon are on the World Cancer Research Fund's hit list.
26:00 <Tigger_> The cancer charity says eating processed meat is linked to bowel cancer in adults and it is now calling on parents to teach healthy food habits early.
26:00 <Tigger_> "There's convincing scientific evidence linking the consumption of processed meats like ham, salami and bacon to an increase in bowel cancer risk," Ms Cooney said.
26:00 <Tigger_> "And we also know that the habits we develop during childhood can follow us through to adulthood. So parents have a really wonderful opportunity to help promote really healthy habits in their children."
26:00 <Abortion> Tigger_: Sweet
26:17 <Tigger_> They might seem a harmless lunchtime filler but ham, salami and devon are on the World Cancer Research Fund's hit list.
26:18 <Tigger_> The cancer charity says eating processed meat is linked to bowel cancer in adults and it is now calling on parents to teach healthy food habits early.
26:34 <Tigger_> "There's convincing scientific evidence linking the consumption of processed meats like ham, salami and bacon to an increase in bowel cancer risk," Ms Cooney said.
26:34 <Tigger_> "And we also know that the habits we develop during childhood can follow us through to adulthood. So parents have a really wonderful opportunity to help promote really healthy habits in their children."
26:42 <Abortion> Tigger_: Sweet
27:00 <Lish> Yeah yeah you e told me a million times
27:00 <Lish> Who cares
27:00 <Lish> Ham rocks
27:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-08-18/killer-sandwich-ham-linked-to-cancer/1395254
27:00 <progressive> [ Killer sandwich: ham linked to cancer - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
27:00 <Lish> Everything gives you cancer
27:00 <Lish> I'm ok with ham doing it
27:25 <Lish> Yeah yeah you e told me a million times
27:27 <Lish> Who cares
27:29 <Lish> Ham rocks
27:31 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-08-18/killer-sandwich-ham-linked-to-cancer/1395254
27:33 <progressive> [ Killer sandwich: ham linked to cancer - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
27:41 <Lish> Everything gives you cancer
28:00 <Lish> I'm ok with ham doing it
28:00 <Tigger_> then have some smokes
28:00 <Tigger_> a packet of winfield
28:00 <Abortion> thems some nice wingsuits
28:20 <Tigger_> then have some smokes
28:30 <Tigger_> a packet of winfield
28:57 <Abortion> thems some nice wingsuits
29:00 <Abortion> unfortunately, I can't help but notice they may not have enough thrust to lift off on their own
29:00 <Abortion> I imagine they launched from a plane, much like parachutists
29:15 <Abortion> unfortunately, I can't help but notice they may not have enough thrust to lift off on their own
29:26 <Abortion> I imagine they launched from a plane, much like parachutists
30:00 <Tigger_> I'd say so
30:00 <Tigger_> no point in wasting fuel just to get off the ground
30:00 <Abortion> not for a publicity stunt
30:00 <Abortion> For personal transport you do need to launch somehow
30:10 <Tigger_> I'd say so
30:28 <Tigger_> no point in wasting fuel just to get off the ground
30:42 <Abortion> not for a publicity stunt
30:54 <Abortion> For personal transport you do need to launch somehow
31:00 <Abortion> >install particle accelerator on house
31:00 <Abortion> aka trebuchet
31:23 <Abortion> >install particle accelerator on house
31:29 <Abortion> aka trebuchet
34:00 <Tigger_> jetpack in the Bond film Thunderball, 50 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CnAFCoCrA
34:00 <progressive> [ Bondcollection New products - Thunderball Jetpack - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
34:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Bondcollection New products - Thunderball Jetpack (Apr 21, 2010) Time: 1:25 - Category: Film & Animation - 23,889 views - 28 likes (93.3%), 2 dislikes (6.7%)
34:48 <Tigger_> jetpack in the Bond film Thunderball, 50 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CnAFCoCrA
34:48 <progressive> [ Bondcollection New products - Thunderball Jetpack - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
34:52 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Bondcollection New products - Thunderball Jetpack (Apr 21, 2010) Time: 1:25 - Category: Film & Animation - 23,889 views - 28 likes (93.3%), 2 dislikes (6.7%)
35:00 <Tigger_> that was a real jetpack too, it seems the technology never really went anywhere
35:31 <Tigger_> that was a real jetpack too, it seems the technology never really went anywhere
36:00 <Tigger_> The rocket-propulsion Jet Pack seen in the film was originally designed and invented for military use. It is also known as the Small Rocket Lift Device (SRLD). The original intention as conceived during the 1950s was for soldiers to be able to improve their agility, depth of field and ability to commandeer terrain by being able to jump over impeding landmarks and waterways. The Bell Aerosystems Rocketbelt model was used for this movie. Its
36:00 <Tigger_>  flight goes for twenty one seconds, and provides 1000 brake horsepower.
36:23 <Tigger_> The rocket-propulsion Jet Pack seen in the film was originally designed and invented for military use. It is also known as the Small Rocket Lift Device (SRLD). The original intention as conceived during the 1950s was for soldiers to be able to improve their agility, depth of field and ability to commandeer terrain by being able to jump over impeding landmarks and waterways. The Bell Aerosystems Rocketbelt model was used for this movie. Its
36:23 <Tigger_> flight goes for twenty one seconds, and provides 1000 brake horsepower.
39:00 <Abortion> nice
39:00 <Abortion> guess it costs too much to maintain for just infantry use
39:42 <Abortion> nice
39:51 <Abortion> guess it costs too much to maintain for just infantry use
40:00 <Tigger_> launching from ground would be a lot more dangerous than jumping from a plane too
40:00 <Abortion> probably
40:15 <Tigger_> launching from ground would be a lot more dangerous than jumping from a plane too
40:22 <Abortion> probably
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44:00 <Lish> Law and order time
44:13 <Lish> Law and order time
45:00 <Tigger_> George Bush Snr watches that
45:00 <Tigger_> and he's 92 or something
45:19 <Tigger_> George Bush Snr watches that
45:25 <Tigger_> and he's 92 or something
46:00 <Lish> Awesome
46:33 <Lish> Awesome
50:00 <Abortion> <flux-1> certainly vista sucks and I never upgraded, but really, does mac really need to poke at pc in every commercial?
50:00 <Abortion> <twentyonegrams> that's like kid with one leg making fun of a kid with one arm
50:10 <Abortion> <flux-1> certainly vista sucks and I never upgraded, but really, does mac really need to poke at pc in every commercial?
50:10 <Abortion> <twentyonegrams> that's like kid with one leg making fun of a kid with one arm
53:00 <Tigger_> I liked the Mac vs PC ads, but I liked the parodies even more
53:52 <Tigger_> I liked the Mac vs PC ads, but I liked the parodies even more
54:00 <Lish> I liked them too
54:00 <Lish> They were funny
54:00 <ajnin> they were good
54:00 <ajnin> the BEST ones were the 90's IBM server adds
54:00 <ajnin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbEeU2dRBg
54:00 <progressive> [ IBM TV Ad - PixieDust - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
54:18 <Lish> I liked them too
54:20 <Lish> They were funny
54:23 <ajnin> they were good
54:33 <ajnin> the BEST ones were the 90's IBM server adds
55:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: IBM TV Ad - PixieDust (May 14, 2006) Time: 0:31 - Category: Howto & Style - 50,287 views - 73 likes (97.3%), 2 dislikes (2.7%)
55:00 <Lish> What's happening ajnin
55:00 <ajnin> just got back from gym
55:02 <ajnin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbEeU2dRBg
55:03 <progressive> [ IBM TV Ad - PixieDust - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
55:06 <BlackDevil> Youtube: IBM TV Ad - PixieDust (May 14, 2006) Time: 0:31 - Category: Howto & Style - 50,287 views - 73 likes (97.3%), 2 dislikes (2.7%)
55:20 <Lish> What's happening ajnin
55:38 <ajnin> just got back from gym
56:00 <Lish> What did u do
56:00 <ajnin> chest
56:00 <Lish> How long
56:05 <Lish> What did u do
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56:19 <ajnin> chest
56:55 <Lish> How long
57:00 <ajnin> not long
57:00 <ajnin> it was a shit sesson
57:00 <ajnin> first time back after hospital
57:00 <Lish> Oh yeah are you feeling better?
57:00 <Lish> I need to start upping my exercise
57:00 <Lish> I've been lazy lately
57:17 <ajnin> not long
57:20 <ajnin> it was a shit sesson
57:30 <ajnin> first time back after hospital
57:50 <Lish> Oh yeah are you feeling better?
57:57 <Lish> I need to start upping my exercise
58:00 <Lish> I've been lazy lately
58:00 <ajnin> yea
58:00 <ajnin> but get tiard easy
58:00 <Abortion> has self healing servers, but they aren't cheap
58:15 <ajnin> yea
58:21 <ajnin> but get tiard easy
58:26 <Abortion> has self healing servers, but they aren't cheap
59:00 <Lish> Are you having a relaxing weekend ajnin?
59:10 <Lish> Are you having a relaxing weekend ajnin?
06:00 <Lish> I won all my bets yesterday
06:00 <Lish> Won $2.00
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06:56 <Lish> I won all my bets yesterday
07:03 <Lish> Won $2.00
09:00 <Tigger_> how much did you bet?
09:00 <ajnin> mad!!
09:00 <ajnin> should get a lotto ticket
09:00 <Lish> I bet $9.00 haha
09:17 <Tigger_> how much did you bet?
09:17 <ajnin> mad!!
09:22 <ajnin> should get a lotto ticket
09:46 <Lish> I bet $9.00 haha
10:00 <Tigger_> so you went in with $9, and came out with $11
10:00 <Lish> Yep
10:00 <Lish> Rich
10:00 <Tigger_> why betting so small?
10:05 <Tigger_> so you went in with $9, and came out with $11
10:11 <Lish> Yep
10:12 <Lish> Rich
10:17 <Tigger_> why betting so small?
16:00 <Lish> Betting so small because I'm not stupid
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16:34 <Lish> Betting so small because I'm not stupid
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27:00 <ajnin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbrY1-mlUYs
27:00 <progressive> [ Ass Prank - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
27:00 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ass Prank (Feb 2, 2015) Time: 2:00 - Category: Comedy - 4,456,650 views - 51,037 likes (98.6%), 709 dislikes (1.4%)
27:12 <ajnin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbrY1-mlUYs
27:13 <progressive> [ Ass Prank - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
27:16 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ass Prank (Feb 2, 2015) Time: 2:00 - Category: Comedy - 4,456,650 views - 51,037 likes (98.6%), 709 dislikes (1.4%)
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34:00 <Abortion> Hmm I have the urge to play Freelancer
34:00 <Abortion> erg its already this late
34:00 <Lish> Are u xm
34:04 <Abortion> Hmm I have the urge to play Freelancer
34:23 <Abortion> erg its already this late
34:37 <Lish> Are u xm
35:00 <ajnin> hrmmmm
35:00 <ajnin> stay up
35:00 <ajnin> or go to bed
35:00 <Abortion> nein
35:37 <ajnin> hrmmmm
35:42 <ajnin> stay up
35:44 <ajnin> or go to bed
35:59 <Abortion> nein
36:00 <Lish> Stay up loser ajnin 
36:00 <Lish> Who are you Abortion
36:00 <Lish> And where do you reside 
36:00 <Abortion> Oh, just some guy... in Adelaide
36:00 <Lish> How old
36:16 <Lish> Stay up loser ajnin
36:20 <Lish> Who are you Abortion
36:24 <Lish> And where do you reside
36:32 <Abortion> Oh, just some guy... in Adelaide
36:42 <Lish> How old
38:00 <Abortion> 2*4*3+2
38:00 <Lish> That's annoying
38:27 <Abortion> 2*4*3+2
38:59 <Lish> That's annoying
39:00 <Abortion> How so?
39:53 <Abortion> How so?
40:00 <Lish> Because I find it annoying
40:00 <Lish> Do you work
40:00 <Abortion> I do
40:00 <Abortion> I also am not keen on apple products
40:00 <Abortion> tee hee
40:00 <Lish> What do u work
40:07 <Lish> Because I find it annoying
40:11 <Lish> Do you work
40:21 <Abortion> I do
40:36 <Abortion> I also am not keen on apple products
40:38 <Abortion> tee hee
40:46 <Lish> What do u work
41:00 <Abortion> What is this, the Spanish Inquisition?
41:00 <Abortion> I wasn't expecting that
41:00 <Lish> Well adjust your expectations
41:12 <Abortion> What is this, the Spanish Inquisition?
41:17 <Abortion> I wasn't expecting that
41:36 <Lish> Well adjust your expectations
42:00 <Abortion> Well I'm a codesmith
42:51 <Abortion> Well I'm a codesmith
43:00 <Lish> Yeah a developer, I thought so 
43:00 <Abortion> I'm on IRC, and you compared me to xm, no suprises here tonight
43:13 <Lish> Yeah a developer, I thought so
44:00 <Lish> Indeed 
44:00 <Lish> Xm is annoying though 
44:00 <Lish> Are you married? Girlfriend? Gay?
44:00 <Abortion> no, no, no
44:02 <Abortion> I'm on IRC, and you compared me to xm, no suprises here tonight
44:27 <Lish> Indeed
44:37 <Lish> Xm is annoying though
44:46 <Lish> Are you married? Girlfriend? Gay?
44:56 <Abortion> no, no, no
45:00 <Lish> Boring
45:00 <Abortion> knowing the people I know, #3 there is more likely
45:00 <Abortion> but no
45:00 <Lish> lol
45:00 <Lish> What kind of development do you do
45:30 <Lish> Boring
45:33 <Abortion> knowing the people I know, #3 there is more likely
45:35 <Abortion> but no
45:51 <Lish> lol
45:59 <Lish> What kind of development do you do
46:00 <Abortion> Shit I don't want to talk about work at the moment
46:00 <Lish> Boring
46:00 <Abortion> lol like my work would be any more interesting
46:00 <Lish> What is your main hobby 
46:00 <Abortion> ummmmmmm
46:17 <Abortion> Shit I don't want to talk about work at the moment
46:27 <Lish> Boring
46:39 <Abortion> lol like my work would be any more interesting
46:44 <Lish> What is your main hobby
46:53 <Abortion> ummmmmmm
47:00 <Abortion> care to take a guess?
47:00 <Lish> Nip
47:00 <Lish> Nup
47:00 <Abortion> Well I do like me more computers, if I had to say what my main hobby was
47:00 <Abortion> After that, probably sailing
47:00 <Lish> Do you like any sports?
47:00 <Lish> Sailing... Interesting
47:12 <Abortion> care to take a guess?
47:20 <Lish> Nip
47:22 <Lish> Nup
47:43 <Abortion> Well I do like me more computers, if I had to say what my main hobby was
47:56 <Abortion> After that, probably sailing
47:57 <Lish> Do you like any sports?
48:00 <Lish> What music do you like?
48:00 <Abortion> Progressive metal, classical
48:02 <Lish> Sailing... Interesting
48:06 <Lish> What music do you like?
48:24 <Abortion> Progressive metal, classical
49:00 <Lish> Weird combination
49:00 <Lish> Are you a serial killer?
49:00 <Abortion> I have never been accused of that before
49:00 <Lish> That's good
49:00 <Lish> Why is your nickname Abortion
49:24 <Lish> Weird combination
49:29 <Lish> Are you a serial killer?
49:40 <Abortion> I have never been accused of that before
49:47 <Lish> That's good
49:57 <Lish> Why is your nickname Abortion
50:00 <ajnin> hrmmmmm
50:00 <ajnin> should i get my dad a 4k TV
50:00 <Lish> No
50:00 <ajnin> just so I can watch 4k when I go over
50:00 <Abortion> Because I came in with Arbition and no one liked it, and my nick has often been confused for abortion, so I thought why not
50:00 <ajnin> Lish why ??? I can upgrade netflix to 4k
50:00 <Lish> Why did no one like it? 
50:05 <ajnin> hrmmmmm
50:11 <ajnin> should i get my dad a 4k TV
50:16 <Lish> No
50:18 <ajnin> just so I can watch 4k when I go over
50:20 <Abortion> Because I came in with Arbition and no one liked it, and my nick has often been confused for abortion, so I thought why not
50:46 <ajnin> Lish why ??? I can upgrade netflix to 4k
50:47 <Lish> Why did no one like it?
51:00 <Abortion> I imagine because its not a real word
51:00 <Lish> Weird
51:00 <Abortion> so it doesn't have any amusing associations
51:00 <Lish> Are you religious
51:00 <Abortion> no
51:00 <ajnin> ahha
51:00 <ajnin> with a nick like that
51:00 <ajnin> i dont htink you need to ask 
51:00 <Abortion> I just explained why I have this nickname
51:09 <Abortion> I imagine because its not a real word
51:22 <Lish> Weird
51:23 <Abortion> so it doesn't have any amusing associations
51:33 <Lish> Are you religious
51:37 <Abortion> no
51:46 <ajnin> ahha
51:51 <ajnin> with a nick like that
51:55 <ajnin> i dont htink you need to ask
52:00 <Lish> You never know
52:00 <ajnin> true
52:00 <Lish> I guess ajnin is against abortion, because he's an idiot
52:00 <ajnin> thats nice...
52:00 <ajnin> how about... 
52:00 <Lish> True?
52:00 <ajnin> ajnin is against abortion, because he values life
52:00 <Abortion> Why do you hate me so?
52:03 <Abortion> I just explained why I have this nickname
52:04 <Lish> You never know
52:10 <ajnin> true
52:16 <Lish> I guess ajnin is against abortion, because he's an idiot
52:28 <ajnin> thats nice...
52:34 <ajnin> how about...
52:34 <Lish> True?
52:48 <ajnin> ajnin is against abortion, because he values life
53:00 <Abortion> Why do you hate me so?
53:00 <circle> eating meat will eventually be illegal
53:00 <ajnin> just like I think its far if you kill a lady who is having a baby it should be double murder
53:00 <Abortion> also you should have used /me
53:00 <Lish> Even when the life might be subpar because the person cannot provide for the child 
53:00 <Lish> And it will become a drain on society 
53:00 <ajnin> I dont think any human life is subpar
53:00 <ajnin> Lish drain on society ?
53:06 <circle> eating meat will eventually be illegal
53:11 <ajnin> just like I think its far if you kill a lady who is having a baby it should be double murder
53:12 <Abortion> also you should have used /me
53:13 <Lish> Even when the life might be subpar because the person cannot provide for the child
53:27 <Lish> And it will become a drain on society
53:46 <ajnin> I dont think any human life is subpar
54:00 <Lish> Sure, why not bring a child into the world you cannot provide for 
54:00 <Lish> Make them suffer
54:00 <circle> there are some very odd double standards in australia regarding abortions, expectant mothers talk of their "unborn child" and wouldn't do anything to harm it, yet when they get an abortion it is simply a "lifeless clump of cells"!
54:00 <ajnin> like old people and disabled people ??
54:00 <ajnin> should we just kill them ?
54:00 <Abortion> yes
54:00 <Abortion> lets compare outselves to brave new world
54:00 <Lish> If you know you can't provide for a child abortion is a smart decision
54:00 <Lish> Unfortunately not enough people take that route
54:00 <Lish> And we have thousands of abused and neglected kids 
54:02 <ajnin> Lish drain on society ?
54:04 <Lish> Sure, why not bring a child into the world you cannot provide for
54:09 <Lish> Make them suffer
54:10 <circle> there are some very odd double standards in australia regarding abortions, expectant mothers talk of their "unborn child" and wouldn't do anything to harm it, yet when they get an abortion it is simply a "lifeless clump of cells"!
54:11 <ajnin> like old people and disabled people ??
54:16 <ajnin> should we just kill them ?
54:31 <Abortion> yes
54:42 <Abortion> lets compare outselves to brave new world
54:47 <Lish> If you know you can't provide for a child abortion is a smart decision
54:53 <Lish> Unfortunately not enough people take that route
55:00 <circle> Lish: you should also be able to kill your toddler if you decide you can't/don't want to provide for it.
55:00 <ajnin> I dont think murder is the answer 
55:00 <Lish> It's not murder
55:00 <Lish> What's the answer?
55:00 <Lish> Foster system? 
55:00 <Abortion> Given our current overbearing population... I'm not so sure
55:00 <circle> the answer is not letting whores use abortion as birth control
55:00 <ajnin> how about dont fuck ?
55:00 <Lish> lol
55:00 <ajnin> or use a condom or whatever
55:00 <Lish> Oh how idealistic 
55:03 <Lish> And we have thousands of abused and neglected kids
55:04 <circle> Lish: you should also be able to kill your toddler if you decide you can't/don't want to provide for it.
55:14 <ajnin> I dont think murder is the answer
55:19 <Lish> It's not murder
55:22 <Lish> What's the answer?
55:26 <Lish> Foster system?
55:33 <Abortion> Given our current overbearing population... I'm not so sure
55:34 <circle> the answer is not letting whores use abortion as birth control
55:36 <ajnin> how about dont fuck ?
55:43 <Lish> lol
55:47 <ajnin> or use a condom or whatever
55:49 <Lish> Oh how idealistic
56:00 <circle> women who murder their unborn children deserve the death penalty.
56:00 <Lish> lol
56:00 <Abortion> To take a leaf out of Tigger_'s book, why should we let the lower classes have to raise children, who will only perpetuate the lower class?
56:00 <Lish> You're an idiot circle 
56:00 <Lish> Abortion haha yes 
56:00 <circle> why am I an idiot, Lish?
56:09 <circle> women who murder their unborn children deserve the death penalty.
56:25 <Lish> lol
56:34 <Abortion> To take a leaf out of Tigger_'s book, why should we let the lower classes have to raise children, who will only perpetuate the lower class?
56:42 <Lish> You're an idiot circle
56:46 <Lish> Abortion haha yes
56:57 <circle> why am I an idiot, Lish?
57:00 <Lish> Because you're saying idiotic things
57:00 <circle> that murderers should get the death penalty is far from idiotic.
57:00 <Lish> Abortion isn't murder
57:00 <circle> unwanted pregnany is quite easy to avoid. you can not be a slut, or you can even be a slut but use contraception.
57:05 <Lish> Because you're saying idiotic things
57:23 <circle> that murderers should get the death penalty is far from idiotic.
57:41 <Lish> Abortion isn't murder
57:44 <circle> unwanted pregnany is quite easy to avoid. you can not be a slut, or you can even be a slut but use contraception.
58:00 <circle> the fact that sluts want to be able to kill their baby when they couldn't even be bothered to contain their sexual immorality is quite disgusting.
58:00 <Lish> you're stupid
58:00 <Abortion> nature, or god, if you will, has already given women to naturally abort. It is called miscarriage
58:00 <Mx_Trump> loloollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
58:00 <Abortion> So if miscarriage is good enough for god, why is it not good enough for us?
58:07 <circle> the fact that sluts want to be able to kill their baby when they couldn't even be bothered to contain their sexual immorality is quite disgusting.
58:33 <Lish> you're stupid
58:34 <Abortion> nature, or god, if you will, has already given women to naturally abort. It is called miscarriage
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58:48 <Mx_Trump> loloollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
58:54 <Abortion> So if miscarriage is good enough for god, why is it not good enough for us?
59:00 <Lish> Yeah 
59:00 <Abortion> Then there is stillbirth
59:00 <circle> Lish: that's not an argument cunt
59:00 <Abortion> which happens later than any law for abortion allows
59:00 <Lish> Circle, I'm about to ban you
59:00 <Abortion> Don't Lish
59:00 <circle> if toddlers sometimes die of disease, that means we should be allowed to murder them
59:00 <Abortion> Banning people with differing opinions is a dark road
59:00 <Lish> No, he called me a cunt
59:00 <circle> ^
59:00 <Lish> It's unacceptable
59:20 <Lish> Yeah
59:20 <Abortion> Then there is stillbirth
59:22 <circle> Lish: that's not an argument cunt
59:31 <Abortion> which happens later than any law for abortion allows
59:35 <Lish> Circle, I'm about to ban you
59:43 <Abortion> Don't Lish
59:46 <circle> if toddlers sometimes die of disease, that means we should be allowed to murder them
59:53 <Abortion> Banning people with differing opinions is a dark road
59:59 <Lish> No, he called me a cunt
00:00 <Lish> I don't give a shit about his ridiculous opinion
00:00 <Abortion> Hmm I see
00:00 <ajnin> Lish agree
00:00 <ajnin> if you can not artilucate yourself
00:00 <Abortion> circle: thats not a bad retort
00:00 <ajnin> and start calling epople a cunt 
00:00 <ajnin> +b
00:00 <Lish> Exactly
00:00 <Mx_Trump> who did lish ban?
00:02 <circle> ^
00:02 <Lish> It's unacceptable
00:10 <Lish> I don't give a shit about his ridiculous opinion
00:18 <Abortion> Hmm I see
00:22 <ajnin> Lish agree
00:33 <ajnin> if you can not artilucate yourself
00:37 <Abortion> circle: thats not a bad retort
00:38 <ajnin> and start calling epople a cunt
00:40 <ajnin> +b
00:52 <Lish> Exactly
01:00 <Lish> I'm going to ban circle
01:00 <Lish> Maybe you
01:00 <circle> Lish, you are an absolute cunt
01:00 <Lish> But you'll cry
01:00 <circle> you dumb little cunt
01:00 <Lish> Why circle? Because I'm smarter than you
01:00 <circle> who can't hack it when someone disagrees with your dumb fuck opinion
01:00 <circle> you stupid fucking retarded cunt lish
01:00 <Mx_Trump> circle is a valuable channel member
01:00 <circle> watch this fucking emotional cunt ban someone because he disagrees with her
01:00 <Abortion> circle: You pretty much just destroyed your position by swearing profusely
01:00 <Lish> I disagree with everything everyone says in here
01:00 <Lish> I never ban them
01:00 <circle> lish's argument "you're stupid"
01:02 <Mx_Trump> who did lish ban?
01:07 <Lish> I'm going to ban circle
01:09 <Lish> Maybe you
01:10 <circle> Lish, you are an absolute cunt
01:11 <Lish> But you'll cry
01:17 <circle> you dumb little cunt
01:20 <Lish> Why circle? Because I'm smarter than you
01:23 <circle> who can't hack it when someone disagrees with your dumb fuck opinion
01:27 <circle> you stupid fucking retarded cunt lish
01:28 <Mx_Trump> circle is a valuable channel member
01:45 <circle> watch this fucking emotional cunt ban someone because he disagrees with her
01:47 <Abortion> circle: You pretty much just destroyed your position by swearing profusely
01:58 <Lish> I disagree with everything everyone says in here
02:00 <Lish> I never ban them
02:00 <Mx_Trump> Lish is provoking
02:00 <circle> when I disagree "+b for you"
02:00 <Lish> lol 
02:00 <Abortion> If you were able to say all that without sounding like a junkie, it might have been ok
02:00 <Lish> You're truly very dumb 
02:00 <Mx_Trump> apart from maybe a few of circle's radical jew theories, a lot of other stuff he says is spot on
02:01 <circle> lish's argument "you're stupid"
02:04 <Mx_Trump> Lish is provoking
02:05 <circle> when I disagree "+b for you"
02:15 <Lish> lol
02:20 <Abortion> If you were able to say all that without sounding like a junkie, it might have been ok
02:25 <Lish> You're truly very dumb
02:59 <Mx_Trump> apart from maybe a few of circle's radical jew theories, a lot of other stuff he says is spot on
03:00 <circle> ^
03:00 <Abortion> So you have one person that agrees with you circle?
03:00 <Lish> Doesn't seem like it
03:00 <Abortion> And now you think you're top dog?
03:00 <Lish> Yeah the dumbest guy in this joint 
03:00 <Abortion> Lets stick to the subject
03:20 <circle> ^
03:34 <Abortion> So you have one person that agrees with you circle?
03:38 <Lish> Doesn't seem like it
03:40 <Abortion> And now you think you're top dog?
03:45 <Lish> Yeah the dumbest guy in this joint
04:00 <Lish> Watches nfl
04:00 <Lish> The worst sport ever
04:00 <Abortion> I don't watch any sport
04:00 <Lish> Bretty
04:00 <Abortion> not even esports
04:00 <Mx_Trump> sounds like Lish is attacking everyone, perhaps she needs some time out?
04:01 <Abortion> Lets stick to the subject
04:10 <Lish> Watches nfl
04:13 <Lish> The worst sport ever
04:24 <Abortion> I don't watch any sport
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04:34 <Lish> Bretty
04:36 <Abortion> not even esports
04:53 <Mx_Trump> sounds like Lish is attacking everyone, perhaps she needs some time out?
05:00 <circle> probably
05:00 <circle> it can be very triggering and traumatising when someone disagrees with your opinion
05:00 <Abortion> Now, abortion as murder: how will you define murder circle?
05:00 <wolframhart> Another holiday perhaps?
05:00 <circle> she needs to go to a safe space
05:00 <circle> Abortion: taking away the life of a human being.
05:05 <circle> probably
05:19 <circle> it can be very triggering and traumatising when someone disagrees with your opinion
05:21 <Abortion> Now, abortion as murder: how will you define murder circle?
05:21 <wolframhart> Another holiday perhaps?
05:25 <circle> she needs to go to a safe space
05:43 <circle> Abortion: taking away the life of a human being.
06:00 <Abortion> at what stage does material become human?
06:00 <circle> at conception
06:00 <Abortion> What is it about conception that makes it special?
06:16 <Abortion> at what stage does material become human?
06:40 <circle> at conception
06:50 <Abortion> What is it about conception that makes it special?
07:00 <Mx_Trump> Lish u watching lsu alabama sunday?
07:00 <circle> it produces something with the full DNA of a human
07:00 <Abortion> Given its size, doesn't that mean that all new cells fulfil this criteria?
07:00 <Lish> Negative clippers v rockets
07:00 <circle> and requires no further deliberate input to form into a fully formed human
07:22 <Mx_Trump> Lish u watching lsu alabama sunday?
07:28 <circle> it produces something with the full DNA of a human
07:53 <Abortion> Given its size, doesn't that mean that all new cells fulfil this criteria?
07:55 <Lish> Negative clippers v rockets
07:56 <circle> and requires no further deliberate input to form into a fully formed human
08:00 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll niggerba
08:00 <Abortion> Umm, yes it does, it needs to draw nutrients from the mother
08:00 <Lish> You love it
08:00 <circle> Abortion: that's a process that happens with or without the mother's input
08:00 <circle> Abortion: deliberate input
08:00 <circle> Abortion: that's why abortion is a thing
08:00 <Mx_Trump> i only watch it from semi finals on
08:00 <circle> Abortion: women can't just say i dont' feel like this any more, we have to literally murder the baby to stop it growing
08:06 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll niggerba
08:17 <Abortion> Umm, yes it does, it needs to draw nutrients from the mother
08:29 <Lish> You love it
08:32 <circle> Abortion: that's a process that happens with or without the mother's input
08:36 <circle> Abortion: deliberate input
08:40 <circle> Abortion: that's why abortion is a thing
08:44 <Mx_Trump> i only watch it from semi finals on
08:59 <circle> Abortion: women can't just say i dont' feel like this any more, we have to literally murder the baby to stop it growing
09:00 <Abortion> ok, so why is a single cell a human, but all other cells of a human not?
09:00 <Abortion> when they leave the body
09:00 <circle> they aren't growing into a fully developed human
09:19 <Abortion> ok, so why is a single cell a human, but all other cells of a human not?
09:28 <Abortion> when they leave the body
09:57 <circle> they aren't growing into a fully developed human
10:00 <Abortion> You're pretty watertight
10:00 <Abortion> I have to give you that
10:00 <circle> ;^)
10:00 <Abortion> but we have a difference in philosophy, I don't value human life the way do you
10:00 <circle> that's fair enough
10:00 <Abortion> I see humans as not being better than animals
10:00 <Abortion> and I'm happy to eat animals
10:23 <Abortion> You're pretty watertight
10:27 <Abortion> I have to give you that
10:37 <circle> ;^)
10:41 <Abortion> but we have a difference in philosophy, I don't value human life the way do you
10:48 <circle> that's fair enough
10:55 <Abortion> I see humans as not being better than animals
10:59 <Abortion> and I'm happy to eat animals
11:00 <circle> i don't think we're much better than animals
11:00 <Abortion> I think you do, if a single cell which has no real self reliance is already human
11:00 <circle> at conception there are many cells
11:00 <circle> not a single one
11:00 <circle> but i value animals a lot
11:00 <Abortion> it splits rapidly, but starts as one
11:14 <circle> i don't think we're much better than animals
11:33 <Abortion> I think you do, if a single cell which has no real self reliance is already human
11:46 <circle> at conception there are many cells
11:49 <circle> not a single one
11:55 <circle> but i value animals a lot
11:58 <Abortion> it splits rapidly, but starts as one
12:00 <circle> killing animals for food when not necessary deeply troubles me
12:00 <circle> although I still do it for now, one day I hope to stop
12:00 <circle> Abortion: it doesn't start as one, there's already a sperm and egg, that is multiple cells at a very minimum
12:00 <wolframhart> PROM
12:00 <Abortion> they merge into one set of DNA
12:00 <circle> yes, that is true
12:05 <circle> killing animals for food when not necessary deeply troubles me
12:12 <circle> although I still do it for now, one day I hope to stop
12:31 <circle> Abortion: it doesn't start as one, there's already a sperm and egg, that is multiple cells at a very minimum
12:38 <wolframhart> PROM
12:41 <Abortion> they merge into one set of DNA
12:49 <circle> yes, that is true
13:00 <Abortion> I still hold that you value humans at all levels better than any animal
13:00 <circle> i don't really
13:12 <Abortion> I still hold that you value humans at all levels better than any animal
13:59 <circle> i don't really
14:00 <circle> i think abortion is a deeply corrupting influence on any society
14:00 <circle> and has consequences far beyond the murder of the child involved
14:00 <circle> meat tastes good and keeps me healthy, so i eat it for now, but i acknowledge it is wrong and i will stop when i can work up the motivation to
14:00 <Abortion> I doubt it highly, there are so many factors in society, you don't like society, so you're just pointing to one you don't like
14:00 <circle> there are many things i don't like in this and other societies
14:00 <circle> abortion is only one
14:00 <circle> it's not my only issue.
14:06 <circle> i think abortion is a deeply corrupting influence on any society
14:13 <circle> and has consequences far beyond the murder of the child involved
14:36 <circle> meat tastes good and keeps me healthy, so i eat it for now, but i acknowledge it is wrong and i will stop when i can work up the motivation to
14:41 <Abortion> I doubt it highly, there are so many factors in society, you don't like society, so you're just pointing to one you don't like
14:56 <circle> there are many things i don't like in this and other societies
14:58 <circle> abortion is only one
15:00 <Abortion> just because they correlate, doesn't mean there is causation
15:00 <Lish> What are your other issues
15:00 <circle> Lish: the government is too big, and needs to be pared back to the core functions of national defence and enforcement of property rights
15:00 <Abortion> Oh a libertarian
15:00 <circle> Lish: women are out of control, feminism has destroyed the family 
15:00 <Abortion> this'll be fun
15:00 <Lish> What would you like women to change?
15:02 <circle> it's not my only issue.
15:05 <Abortion> just because they correlate, doesn't mean there is causation
15:12 <Lish> What are your other issues
15:33 <circle> Lish: the government is too big, and needs to be pared back to the core functions of national defence and enforcement of property rights
15:42 <Abortion> Oh a libertarian
15:44 <circle> Lish: women are out of control, feminism has destroyed the family
15:46 <Abortion> this'll be fun
15:56 <Lish> What would you like women to change?
16:00 <Abortion> circle: Why should we have even a core government, why not just straight Anarchy?
16:00 <circle> i would like to have a cultural change
16:00 <circle> women belong in the home taking care of children, as wives and mothers
16:00 <Lish> What if they don't have children
16:00 <circle> Abortion: i don't know if anarchy would work. i'm still undecided on that fact, i am more of a minarchist
16:00 <circle> women shouldn't be able to choose not to have children
16:08 <Abortion> circle: Why should we have even a core government, why not just straight Anarchy?
16:11 <circle> i would like to have a cultural change
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16:19 <circle> women belong in the home taking care of children, as wives and mothers
16:33 <Lish> What if they don't have children
16:45 <circle> Abortion: i don't know if anarchy would work. i'm still undecided on that fact, i am more of a minarchist
16:56 <circle> women shouldn't be able to choose not to have children
17:00 <circle> they should be property of their husbands, although of course treated kindly
17:00 <Abortion> but why would what your system proposes be any better? What would you do to prevent scope creep and how can you be sure that the increasing scope cannot be an improvement?
17:00 <Lish> So what age should they have children then? 
17:00 <Warren1984> circle you fucken dopey cunt
17:00 <Lish> Should they not work at all? 
17:00 <circle> haha sup Warren1984 
17:00 <Warren1984> hey Lish
17:00 <circle> Abortion: it's hard to do, you need a number of things
17:00 <circle> Abortion: first one is cultural defences -- you need to teach kids to be skeptical of government power, etc
17:00 <Mx_Trump> if women didnt work and had babies house prices would be much cheaper
17:06 <circle> they should be property of their husbands, although of course treated kindly
17:21 <Abortion> but why would what your system proposes be any better? What would you do to prevent scope creep and how can you be sure that the increasing scope cannot be an improvement?
17:29 <Lish> So what age should they have children then?
17:31 <Warren1984> circle you fucken dopey cunt
17:34 <Lish> Should they not work at all?
17:39 <Warren1984> hey Lish
17:39 <circle> haha sup Warren1984
17:49 <circle> Abortion: it's hard to do, you need a number of things
18:00 <Abortion> Wow, property + no choice, doesn't that mean they are slaves by definition?
18:00 <circle> Abortion: second one is decentralisation (states' rights, etc)
18:00 <circle> Lish: in ancient athens, girls starting having children at about age 13, to a husband aged on average about 35
18:00 <Lish> lolol
18:00 <Abortion> Yeah look where Greece is now
18:00 <circle> Lish: i think 16 is a good age for girls to be married and pregnant, but a few years younger or older is okay.
18:00 <Abortion> But yeah, you just described women as being slaves
18:00 <Lish> You're a smart guy circle
18:01 <circle> Abortion: first one is cultural defences -- you need to teach kids to be skeptical of government power, etc
18:02 <Mx_Trump> if women didnt work and had babies house prices would be much cheaper
18:04 <Abortion> Wow, property + no choice, doesn't that mean they are slaves by definition?
18:11 <circle> Abortion: second one is decentralisation (states' rights, etc)
18:31 <circle> Lish: in ancient athens, girls starting having children at about age 13, to a husband aged on average about 35
18:37 <Lish> lolol
18:43 <Abortion> Yeah look where Greece is now
18:48 <circle> Lish: i think 16 is a good age for girls to be married and pregnant, but a few years younger or older is okay.
18:57 <Abortion> But yeah, you just described women as being slaves
19:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: yep
19:00 <Lish> Obviously you've got a happy wife
19:00 <circle> Abortion: why would they be slaves?
19:00 <Lish> Oh wait you prob live with you're parents still
19:00 <circle> Abortion: women are happier in the home doing what they are naturally good at -- taking care of young children
19:00 <Lish> Wrong
19:00 <Mx_Trump> this is true, 18 is the just a legal age invented by government, 16 is the perfect age for having children
19:00 <Lish> Some women dislike kids
19:00 <Abortion> <circle> they should be property of their husbands, although of course treated kindly
19:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: correct
19:00 <Abortion> A slave by any other name is still a slave
19:00 <circle> is your child your slave?
19:03 <Lish> You're a smart guy circle
19:12 <circle> Mx_Trump: yep
19:15 <Lish> Obviously you've got a happy wife
19:19 <circle> Abortion: why would they be slaves?
19:22 <Lish> Oh wait you prob live with you're parents still
19:28 <circle> Abortion: women are happier in the home doing what they are naturally good at -- taking care of young children
19:34 <Lish> Wrong
19:40 <Mx_Trump> this is true, 18 is the just a legal age invented by government, 16 is the perfect age for having children
19:41 <Lish> Some women dislike kids
19:45 <Abortion> <circle> they should be property of their husbands, although of course treated kindly
19:48 <circle> Mx_Trump: correct
19:51 <Abortion> A slave by any other name is still a slave
20:00 <circle> children are property of their parents
20:00 <Abortion> No, they are the responsibility, not property
20:00 <Abortion> in your system they might be
20:00 <circle> Lish: yes, our modern society tells girls that loving children is unfeminist, which is unfortunate
20:00 <Abortion> but not in the current system
20:00 <Lish> Nope, some people just aren't natural with kids
20:00 <Lish> It doesn't come naturally with everyone
20:02 <circle> is your child your slave?
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20:06 <circle> children are property of their parents
20:18 <Abortion> No, they are the responsibility, not property
20:35 <Abortion> in your system they might be
20:36 <circle> Lish: yes, our modern society tells girls that loving children is unfeminist, which is unfortunate
20:38 <Abortion> but not in the current system
20:49 <Lish> Nope, some people just aren't natural with kids
20:55 <Lish> It doesn't come naturally with everyone
21:00 <circle> girls are told they should hate kids and that it's much more fun to work for a corporation and never have kids
21:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ who has more balls clip clop of this horse -> http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/american-pharaohs-breeding-habits-could-rake-in-millions-of-dollars/story-fndpqu3p-1227599335872
21:00 <progressive> [ American Pharaoh’s stud fees could rake in more than $50 million ] - www.news.com.au
21:00 <circle> they are told that being in the home with their kids and raising themselves is a very bad thing and it's much more fun to use government payments to put them in childcare centres, while the mother goes to work
21:16 <circle> girls are told they should hate kids and that it's much more fun to work for a corporation and never have kids
21:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_ who has more balls clip clop of this horse -> http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/american-pharaohs-breeding-habits-could-rake-in-millions-of-dollars/story-fndpqu3p-1227599335872
21:22 <progressive> [ American Pharaoh’s stud fees could rake in more than $50 million ] - www.news.com.au
21:38 <circle> they are told that being in the home with their kids and raising themselves is a very bad thing and it's much more fun to use government payments to put them in childcare centres, while the mother goes to work
22:00 <circle> so it's no surprise some girls claim they don't like kids, after all such brainwashing
22:00 <Abortion> But the other thing supporting my assertion you think they should be slaves is in your saying <circle> women shouldn't be able to choose not to have children
22:00 <Abortion> A lack of choice is also an aspect of slavery
22:00 <circle> Abortion: yes, just like kids can't choose not to go to school. it is part of their role.
22:00 <Mx_Trump> mother goes to work for 600 a week and puts them in childcare for 500 a week
22:07 <circle> so it's no surprise some girls claim they don't like kids, after all such brainwashing
22:10 <Abortion> But the other thing supporting my assertion you think they should be slaves is in your saying <circle> women shouldn't be able to choose not to have children
22:22 <Abortion> A lack of choice is also an aspect of slavery
22:27 <circle> Abortion: yes, just like kids can't choose not to go to school. it is part of their role.
22:42 <Mx_Trump> mother goes to work for 600 a week and puts them in childcare for 500 a week
23:00 <Lish> You know all about it bretty
23:00 <Abortion> circle: So you're saying that men are the only ones who can have choice? Women can't even grow up to have choice?
23:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: and they call that empowerment!
23:00 <Abortion> But men don't have choice while they are under 18
23:05 <Lish> You know all about it bretty
23:34 <Abortion> circle: So you're saying that men are the only ones who can have choice? Women can't even grow up to have choice?
23:35 <circle> Mx_Trump: and they call that empowerment!
24:00 <circle> Abortion: they can have choice. they can choose what pretty dress to put on each day.
24:00 <Abortion> Thats a choice, its not freedom
24:00 <Lish> Hahahahaha drews
24:00 <Lish> Dress
24:00 <circle> Abortion: but giving them broader choices is a problem. just like letting a kid choose to eat all the lollies they want or not go to school.
24:00 <Mx_Trump> the ideal combination is a 16 year old female and a 20 year old male
24:00 <Abortion> Yet men still have complete freedom
24:00 <Mx_Trump> have their three kids before she is 25
24:01 <Abortion> But men don't have choice while they are under 18
24:19 <circle> Abortion: they can have choice. they can choose what pretty dress to put on each day.
24:27 <Abortion> Thats a choice, its not freedom
24:33 <Lish> Hahahahaha drews
24:36 <Lish> Dress
24:36 <circle> Abortion: but giving them broader choices is a problem. just like letting a kid choose to eat all the lollies they want or not go to school.
24:47 <Mx_Trump> the ideal combination is a 16 year old female and a 20 year old male
24:52 <Abortion> Yet men still have complete freedom
25:00 <Mx_Trump> have their three kids before she is 25
25:00 <circle> Abortion: men have freedom, yet much more responsibility
25:00 <circle> Abortion: women lack the mental aptitude to make important decisions concerning broader things.
25:00 <Abortion> circle: Do you hate islam?
25:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: i'd say a 16 year old girl with a 25 or 30 year old man, the man should have a reasonable job and be financially secure to be able to provide for his wife and family
25:05 <circle> Abortion: men have freedom, yet much more responsibility
25:22 <circle> Abortion: women lack the mental aptitude to make important decisions concerning broader things.
25:22 <Abortion> circle: Do you hate islam?
25:48 <circle> Mx_Trump: i'd say a 16 year old girl with a 25 or 30 year old man, the man should have a reasonable job and be financially secure to be able to provide for his wife and family
26:00 <circle> Abortion: i don't mind it, i think it's fine for them to practice in their own countreis
26:00 <Mx_Trump> but if you got rid of university and all that shit a man would be earning a decent enough wage at 20/21
26:00 <Abortion> circle: But they're trying to do more than their own country right?
26:00 <circle> true, but he might not have build up enough financial security
26:00 <circle> house, etc
26:00 <circle> Abortion: I don't welcome any non-white to Australia, and most Muslims are not white.
26:16 <circle> Abortion: i don't mind it, i think it's fine for them to practice in their own countreis
26:21 <Mx_Trump> but if you got rid of university and all that shit a man would be earning a decent enough wage at 20/21
26:37 <Abortion> circle: But they're trying to do more than their own country right?
26:40 <circle> true, but he might not have build up enough financial security
26:45 <circle> house, etc
27:00 <Abortion> Why is Australia for the whites?
27:04 <circle> Abortion: I don't welcome any non-white to Australia, and most Muslims are not white.
27:37 <Abortion> Why is Australia for the whites?
28:00 <circle> Because it was built by whites for whites.
28:00 <circle> And letting in non-whites is harmful.
28:00 <Mx_Trump> we could save so much money if just totally got rid of university, maybe keep it for doctors 
28:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: yep, 80% of the men going to university right now shouldn't be there, maybe more
28:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: and 100% of the women
28:00 <Abortion> But it didn't "belong" to us originally. Abos were here first. If we're allowed to take it from them, why should islam not be allowed to take it from us?
28:00 <circle> girls shouldn't be educated past 6th grade, they need to learn to read and write in a basic fashion and no more
28:17 <circle> Because it was built by whites for whites.
28:21 <circle> And letting in non-whites is harmful.
28:25 <Mx_Trump> we could save so much money if just totally got rid of university, maybe keep it for doctors
28:47 <circle> Mx_Trump: yep, 80% of the men going to university right now shouldn't be there, maybe more
28:50 <circle> Mx_Trump: and 100% of the women
28:53 <Abortion> But it didn't "belong" to us originally. Abos were here first. If we're allowed to take it from them, why should islam not be allowed to take it from us?
29:00 <Mx_Trump> this is true
29:00 <circle> Abortion: how did that end up for the abos?
29:00 <circle> Abortion: not too good, right?
29:00 <Abortion> Indeed
29:00 <circle> abos took australia from mungo man
29:00 <circle> they genocided mungo man
29:00 <circle> we took australia from abos
29:00 <circle> islam can try take australia from us
29:00 <circle> but we should resist it
29:00 <Lish> This is so ridiculous it's boring
29:03 <circle> girls shouldn't be educated past 6th grade, they need to learn to read and write in a basic fashion and no more
29:16 <Mx_Trump> this is true
29:24 <circle> Abortion: how did that end up for the abos?
29:28 <circle> Abortion: not too good, right?
29:34 <Abortion> Indeed
29:40 <circle> abos took australia from mungo man
29:44 <circle> they genocided mungo man
29:47 <circle> we took australia from abos
29:51 <circle> islam can try take australia from us
29:55 <circle> but we should resist it
30:00 <Mx_Trump> the problem is not with us taking it from the abos, it is us just giving it to islam
30:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has gone silent
30:00 <circle> Lish: what's ridiculous? do you have an argument?
30:00 <Abortion> tigger hasn't spoken for a very long time
30:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: correct
30:00 <Lish> No because it's too ridiculous to even respond to
30:00 <Warren1984> someone slap Tigger_
30:00 <circle> Lish: then why are you even commenting?
30:00 <Warren1984> everyone in the channel slap Tigger_
30:00 <circle> if you have no argument don't comment
30:01 <Lish> This is so ridiculous it's boring
30:10 <Mx_Trump> the problem is not with us taking it from the abos, it is us just giving it to islam
30:22 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has gone silent
30:23 <circle> Lish: what's ridiculous? do you have an argument?
30:31 <Abortion> tigger hasn't spoken for a very long time
30:35 <circle> Mx_Trump: correct
30:39 <Lish> No because it's too ridiculous to even respond to
30:41 <Warren1984> someone slap Tigger_
30:48 <circle> Lish: then why are you even commenting?
31:00 <Warren1984> everyone in the channel slap Tigger_
31:00 <Abortion> So women should have no rights and all women and kids are property
31:00 <circle> women should be cherished and loved
31:00 <Abortion> See, with women not having rights, what you're proposing is exactly the same as Islam
31:00 <circle> women should be valued, supported and protected
31:00 <Abortion> You'd be fine with Sharia law
31:00 <circle> however, they have a role
31:04 <circle> if you have no argument don't comment
31:08 * Warren1984 slaps Tigger_ around a bit with a large trout
31:15 <Abortion> So women should have no rights and all women and kids are property
31:36 <circle> women should be cherished and loved
31:37 <Abortion> See, with women not having rights, what you're proposing is exactly the same as Islam
31:57 <circle> women should be valued, supported and protected
32:00 <Abortion> so why would you keep fighting it?
32:00 <circle> which is different to that of men
32:00 <circle> i would be fine with only one or two aspects of sharia law
32:00 <circle> 99% of it i would not be fine with
32:00 <Abortion> It is surely less effort to go to a country with sharia law than try to change this society
32:03 <Abortion> You'd be fine with Sharia law
32:04 <circle> however, they have a role
32:04 <Abortion> so why would you keep fighting it?
32:06 <circle> which is different to that of men
32:40 <circle> i would be fine with only one or two aspects of sharia law
32:44 <circle> 99% of it i would not be fine with
32:45 <Abortion> It is surely less effort to go to a country with sharia law than try to change this society
33:00 <Abortion> So you like drinking then?
33:00 <Mx_Trump> bit of a stretch Abortion
33:08 <Abortion> So you like drinking then?
33:43 <Mx_Trump> bit of a stretch Abortion
34:00 <circle> Abortion, I'm not interested in Sharia Law. 
34:00 <Abortion> Why? Islam bans the consumption of alcohol
34:00 <Lish> Do you smoke weed circle?
34:00 <circle> Lish: No.
34:00 <Lish> Take psychotic meds?
34:00 <circle> No.
34:09 <circle> Abortion, I'm not interested in Sharia Law.
34:10 <Abortion> Why? Islam bans the consumption of alcohol
34:30 <Lish> Do you smoke weed circle?
34:36 <circle> Lish: No.
34:55 <Lish> Take psychotic meds?
35:00 <Mx_Trump> why are you being stupid Lish?
35:00 <Abortion> circle: Given your beliefs, how would you convince people that your way is best?
35:00 <circle> Abortion: Through rational argument. 
35:00 <Abortion> ok lets start with roles
35:00 <circle> At the end of the day, what we have now is an aberration. 
35:01 <circle> No.
35:06 <Mx_Trump> why are you being stupid Lish?
35:13 <Abortion> circle: Given your beliefs, how would you convince people that your way is best?
35:34 <circle> Abortion: Through rational argument.
35:42 <Abortion> ok lets start with roles
35:48 <circle> At the end of the day, what we have now is an aberration.
36:00 <Abortion> please explain
36:00 <Abortion> abberation of what?
36:00 <circle> Feminism didn't exist for most of human history.
36:00 <Lish> Being stupid?
36:00 <Abortion> Humans didn't exist for most of earth's history
36:00 <circle> This idea that girls should get jobs, be able to divorce their husband, neglect to bear children, etc is a  new idea.
36:00 <circle> And a very silly one, at that.
36:05 <Abortion> please explain
36:08 <Abortion> abberation of what?
36:26 <circle> Feminism didn't exist for most of human history.
36:26 <Lish> Being stupid?
36:39 <Abortion> Humans didn't exist for most of earth's history
36:59 <circle> This idea that girls should get jobs, be able to divorce their husband, neglect to bear children, etc is a new idea.
37:00 <Abortion> the first is a statement of fact, the second is an opinion
37:00 <circle> It has made women and men quite unhappy. You will fin the least happy people in our society are middle aged career women.
37:00 <circle> The thing is, girls are designed to be with children.
37:00 <circle> That's what they are best at, and what they are happiest doing.
37:00 <Abortion> what does happiness achieve?
37:00 <Lish> How old is middle aged?
37:00 <Abortion> Designed, by god?
37:04 <circle> And a very silly one, at that.
37:18 <Abortion> the first is a statement of fact, the second is an opinion
37:25 <circle> It has made women and men quite unhappy. You will fin the least happy people in our society are middle aged career women.
37:39 <circle> The thing is, girls are designed to be with children.
37:44 <circle> That's what they are best at, and what they are happiest doing.
37:45 <Abortion> what does happiness achieve?
37:51 <Lish> How old is middle aged?
37:54 <Abortion> Designed, by god?
38:00 <circle> Lish: mid 40s - mid 50s i'd say. 
38:00 <Mx_Trump> circle lish is an unhappy middle aged career woman, and always tired
38:00 <circle> Abortion: Designed by evolution.
38:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: haha, that'd be right
38:00 <Lish> Hahahaha 
38:00 <Lish> I'm not middle aged! 
38:00 <Abortion> Yet evolution doesn't go through stages of abberation and then go back
38:00 <Mx_Trump> close enough
38:00 <Abortion> it keeps going forward
38:08 <circle> Lish: mid 40s - mid 50s i'd say.
38:16 <Mx_Trump> circle lish is an unhappy middle aged career woman, and always tired
38:17 <circle> Abortion: Designed by evolution.
38:24 <circle> Mx_Trump: haha, that'd be right
38:24 <Lish> Hahahaha
38:29 <Lish> I'm not middle aged!
38:38 <Abortion> Yet evolution doesn't go through stages of abberation and then go back
38:40 <Mx_Trump> close enough
38:41 <Abortion> it keeps going forward
39:00 <circle> It is quite cruel we tell girls that they have to get an education, get a job, etc when they are not very good at it and do not enjoy it.
39:00 <Abortion> Evolution wouldn't be a thing if change never resulted in better things
39:00 <Lish> lolol
39:00 <Lish> Do you work circle?
39:00 <Abortion> What is to say that this change in reproductive patterns isn't the next stage of evolution?
39:00 <circle> But at this point we are not talking of genetic evolution but societal change, Abortion.
39:00 <circle> Society can and does make wrong turns.
39:00 <Abortion> society still affects genertics
39:00 <circle> Lish: Yes.
39:06 <circle> It is quite cruel we tell girls that they have to get an education, get a job, etc when they are not very good at it and do not enjoy it.
39:14 <Abortion> Evolution wouldn't be a thing if change never resulted in better things
39:27 <Lish> lolol
39:35 <Lish> Do you work circle?
39:38 <Abortion> What is to say that this change in reproductive patterns isn't the next stage of evolution?
39:40 <circle> But at this point we are not talking of genetic evolution but societal change, Abortion.
39:51 <circle> Society can and does make wrong turns.
39:54 <Abortion> society still affects genertics
39:55 <circle> Lish: Yes.
40:00 <Abortion> as measured by what, circle?
40:00 <circle> Abortion: Well, as I've said, middle aged career women, the very thing that feminists want all our girls to be, are the least happy people in society and consume the most anti-depressants.
40:00 <circle> So it's clearly not working for women.
40:00 <Lish> What do you do for work circle?
40:00 <Abortion> No, what is the actual metric, not the instance
40:00 <circle> On top of that, the birth rate is low, women are voting for socialism and mass non-white immigration. So we know letting women vote was a dumb idea.
40:05 <Abortion> as measured by what, circle?
40:36 <circle> Abortion: Well, as I've said, middle aged career women, the very thing that feminists want all our girls to be, are the least happy people in society and consume the most anti-depressants.
40:41 <circle> So it's clearly not working for women.
40:55 <Lish> What do you do for work circle?
40:57 <Abortion> No, what is the actual metric, not the instance
41:00 <circle> On top of that, the birth rate is low, women are voting for socialism and mass non-white immigration. So we know letting women vote was a dumb idea.
41:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/muslim-bashes-jewish-man-over-the-head-with-a-food-tray-and-tries-to-kill-him/story-e6frfq80-1227599434982
41:00 <progressive> [ Ethiopian Airlines anti-semitic attack: Muslim passenger attacks Jewish passenger ] - www.news.com.au
41:00 <Abortion> birth rate is low
41:00 <Abortion> the rest of it is opinion
41:00 <circle> It is so sad to see all the sluts that would have in another day been good, obedient housewives and mothers.
41:00 <Abortion> but low birth rate has also correlated with high survival rate?
41:00 <circle> Lish: I work in software development.
41:00 <Abortion> That is, the deaths of children have been avoided
41:09 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/muslim-bashes-jewish-man-over-the-head-with-a-food-tray-and-tries-to-kill-him/story-e6frfq80-1227599434982
41:10 <progressive> [ Ethiopian Airlines anti-semitic attack: Muslim passenger attacks Jewish passenger ] - www.news.com.au
41:13 <Abortion> birth rate is low
41:16 <Abortion> the rest of it is opinion
41:25 <circle> It is so sad to see all the sluts that would have in another day been good, obedient housewives and mothers.
41:32 <Abortion> but low birth rate has also correlated with high survival rate?
41:49 <circle> Lish: I work in software development.
41:51 <Abortion> That is, the deaths of children have been avoided
42:00 <Abortion> which, according to your thing about not killing children, should be a good thing
42:00 <circle> We have upped the survival rate of children but not enough to make up for the lack of babies.
42:00 <Lish> Of course you do
42:00 <Lish> You're a development
42:00 <Lish> Developer
42:00 <Abortion> You say that as if you're sure of what the outcome will be
42:00 <Abortion> Now, because its so new, we haven't seen the full results of it yet
42:00 <Mx_Trump> young mothers are always the happiest
42:10 <Abortion> which, according to your thing about not killing children, should be a good thing
42:14 <circle> We have upped the survival rate of children but not enough to make up for the lack of babies.
42:22 <Lish> Of course you do
42:26 <Lish> You're a development
42:29 <Lish> Developer
42:38 <Abortion> You say that as if you're sure of what the outcome will be
43:00 <Abortion> Now, because its so new, we haven't seen the full results of it yet
43:00 <circle> Lish: Yes.
43:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: Exactly! And there's nothing more beautiful than a young, married white mother with her children. 
43:00 <Abortion> So, criteria for measuring a sucessful human society, so far all you have really described is a high birth rate
43:00 <Abortion> as far as evolution is concerned anyway
43:01 <Mx_Trump> young mothers are always the happiest
43:11 <circle> Lish: Yes.
43:28 <circle> Mx_Trump: Exactly! And there's nothing more beautiful than a young, married white mother with her children.
43:35 <Abortion> So, criteria for measuring a sucessful human society, so far all you have really described is a high birth rate
44:00 <circle> I've described many things. The happiness of the participants in society for one.
44:00 <circle> The smooth running of society, which is failing as feminists destroy one pillar after another of what made us successful.
44:00 <Abortion> But what of those impacts evolution directly, given that you said evolution has made women (and presumably humans) what they are
44:00 <circle> They attack the family, they attack children.
44:02 <Abortion> as far as evolution is concerned anyway
44:05 <circle> I've described many things. The happiness of the participants in society for one.
44:28 <circle> The smooth running of society, which is failing as feminists destroy one pillar after another of what made us successful.
44:36 <Abortion> But what of those impacts evolution directly, given that you said evolution has made women (and presumably humans) what they are
44:43 <circle> They attack the family, they attack children.
45:00 <Abortion> So, in terms of evolution, you still seem to be primarily concerned with birth rate
45:00 <Abortion> Smooth running of society, do elaborate
45:00 <circle> Abortion: Well, a long time ago, before there were even humans, probably, tribes which divided labour with women looking after the children and men hunting, were the most successful.
45:13 <Abortion> So, in terms of evolution, you still seem to be primarily concerned with birth rate
45:42 <Abortion> Smooth running of society, do elaborate
45:45 <circle> Abortion: Well, a long time ago, before there were even humans, probably, tribes which divided labour with women looking after the children and men hunting, were the most successful.
46:00 <Abortion> As in, the most reproductive?
46:00 <circle> They had the most reproductive success.
46:00 <circle> And in those societies the women probably liked their role, at least more than in tribes which didn't have such a setup.
46:00 <Abortion> But reproductive success also relates to survival rates, right?
46:00 <circle> yes
46:00 <Abortion> thats conjecture and can never be proved
46:08 <Abortion> As in, the most reproductive?
46:24 <circle> They had the most reproductive success.
46:43 <circle> And in those societies the women probably liked their role, at least more than in tribes which didn't have such a setup.
46:44 <Abortion> But reproductive success also relates to survival rates, right?
46:56 <circle> yes
46:56 <Abortion> thats conjecture and can never be proved
47:00 <Abortion> the part about liking roles
47:00 <circle> the only reason those tribes adopted such a structure is because their women were more amiable to it
47:00 <circle> the only reason other tribes didn't is likewise
47:00 <Abortion> still unprovable
47:00 <Abortion> you've ignored other possibilities
47:00 <Abortion> So survival rates are also a factor of reproductive success
47:00 <Abortion> what contributes to survival rates?
47:05 <Abortion> the part about liking roles
47:17 <circle> the only reason those tribes adopted such a structure is because their women were more amiable to it
47:21 <circle> the only reason other tribes didn't is likewise
47:27 <Abortion> still unprovable
47:33 <Abortion> you've ignored other possibilities
47:54 <Abortion> So survival rates are also a factor of reproductive success
48:00 <Abortion> So far, birth rate and survival rate
48:02 <Abortion> what contributes to survival rates?
49:00 <circle> women performing their role is the main thing
49:00 <circle> as this contributes to a properly functioning society
49:00 <Abortion> No its not. The main thing is nourishment
49:00 <circle> without a properly functioning society kids won't get nourishment
49:00 <Abortion> are there any starving children in western, femenist society?
49:02 <Abortion> So far, birth rate and survival rate
49:05 <circle> women performing their role is the main thing
49:17 <circle> as this contributes to a properly functioning society
49:21 <Abortion> No its not. The main thing is nourishment
49:38 <circle> without a properly functioning society kids won't get nourishment
49:57 <Abortion> are there any starving children in western, femenist society?
51:00 <Abortion> is it a requirement that a society be functioning in order to nourish children (I'm letting you back out of this)
51:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/foreign-agencies-may-have-known-plans-of-a-bomb-on-a-plane-for-a-month/story-fnh81gzi-1227599531357
51:00 <progressive> [ Agencies ‘may have known about bomb’ ] - www.news.com.au
51:25 <Abortion> is it a requirement that a society be functioning in order to nourish children (I'm letting you back out of this)
51:53 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/foreign-agencies-may-have-known-plans-of-a-bomb-on-a-plane-for-a-month/story-fnh81gzi-1227599531357
51:54 <progressive> [ Agencies ‘may have known about bomb’ ] - www.news.com.au
52:00 <circle> one of the main reasons the west is so successful
52:00 <circle> is strict adoption of gender roles
52:00 <circle> respecting, loving and cherishing women
52:00 <circle> but knowing their place
52:00 <Abortion> you have completely avoided my question
52:00 <circle> now, we have stopped doing that in the last 30 years
52:00 <Abortion> You're just repeating your opinions
52:00 <circle> but the only reason we are here is because we didn't do that at first
52:11 <circle> one of the main reasons the west is so successful
52:16 <circle> is strict adoption of gender roles
52:21 <circle> respecting, loving and cherishing women
52:23 <circle> but knowing their place
52:27 <Abortion> you have completely avoided my question
52:30 <circle> now, we have stopped doing that in the last 30 years
52:35 <Abortion> You're just repeating your opinions
52:46 <circle> but the only reason we are here is because we didn't do that at first
53:00 <circle> > is it a requirement that a society be functioning in order to nourish children for the most part yes
53:00 <Abortion> Circumstances have changed over time
53:00 <Abortion> For the most part but not strictly
53:08 <circle> > is it a requirement that a society be functioning in order to nourish children for the most part yes
53:10 <Abortion> Circumstances have changed over time
53:19 <Abortion> For the most part but not strictly
54:00 <circle> they could get lucky.
54:00 <Abortion> But if survival rates are of the utmost important, we don't need a perfect society to achieve it. Combine this with the fact that opinions on how society should be run differ, we're going to need different reasons
54:00 <Abortion> Society will survive if children survive
54:00 <Abortion> So, we come to the birth rate issue
54:00 <Abortion> We have a problem
54:06 <circle> they could get lucky.
54:14 <Abortion> But if survival rates are of the utmost important, we don't need a perfect society to achieve it. Combine this with the fact that opinions on how society should be run differ, we're going to need different reasons
54:40 <Abortion> Society will survive if children survive
54:59 <Abortion> So, we come to the birth rate issue
55:00 <Abortion> We have never seen a society that has been completely exterminated by low birth rates
55:00 <Abortion> So already we are lacking data
55:00 <Abortion> We have Japan
55:00 <Abortion> the most advanced in aging population
55:03 <Abortion> We have a problem
55:18 <Abortion> We have never seen a society that has been completely exterminated by low birth rates
55:27 <Abortion> So already we are lacking data
55:39 <Abortion> We have Japan
55:45 <Abortion> the most advanced in aging population
56:00 <Abortion> Now, as an aside, from what I gather, women are a lot more "in their place" there than in most western countries
56:00 <circle> no, not really
56:00 <Abortion> ok then
56:00 <circle> the reason they have a low birth rate is because japanese women who work usually don't have any kids
56:00 <circle> and a lot of japanese women work
56:12 <Abortion> Now, as an aside, from what I gather, women are a lot more "in their place" there than in most western countries
56:22 <circle> no, not really
56:42 <Abortion> ok then
56:44 <circle> the reason they have a low birth rate is because japanese women who work usually don't have any kids
56:48 <circle> and a lot of japanese women work
57:00 <Abortion> So, Japan has low birth rates, they also have the highest life expectancy
57:20 <Abortion> So, Japan has low birth rates, they also have the highest life expectancy
57:31 Join: anotherirc3r ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
58:00 <Abortion> Their culture is very closed off
58:00 <circle> japan is a shithole and a failure at almost everything
58:00 <circle> they are even worse than us
58:00 <circle> the west would be doing so much better if we put girls back in their place 
58:00 <Abortion> They are also a lot more intolerant of outside cultures than we are
58:00 <anotherirc3r> Abortion!
58:17 <Abortion> Their culture is very closed off
58:33 <circle> japan is a shithole and a failure at almost everything
58:37 <circle> they are even worse than us
58:57 <circle> the west would be doing so much better if we put girls back in their place
59:00 <Abortion> Hello anotherirc3r
59:00 <anotherirc3r> how's you?!
59:01 <Abortion> They are also a lot more intolerant of outside cultures than we are
59:02 <anotherirc3r> Abortion!
59:22 <Abortion> Hello anotherirc3r
00:00 <anotherirc3r> how's you?!
00:00 <Abortion> Japan represents the pinnacle of cultural homogenity in the developed world
00:00 <Abortion> I'm good
00:10 <Abortion> Japan represents the pinnacle of cultural homogenity in the developed world
00:19 <Abortion> I'm good
01:00 <Abortion> But you say its a shithole
01:00 <Abortion> But this is simple correlation
01:00 <Abortion> and so is everything you've said
01:21 <Abortion> But you say its a shithole
01:43 <Abortion> But this is simple correlation
01:47 <Abortion> and so is everything you've said
02:00 <Abortion> I maintain that sociology suffers the same problem as economics
02:00 <Abortion> too many factors
02:00 <Mx_Trump> anotherirc3r is a good example of what you were talking about, she has been to uni
02:21 <Abortion> I maintain that sociology suffers the same problem as economics
02:24 <Abortion> too many factors
02:29 <Mx_Trump> anotherirc3r is a good example of what you were talking about, she has been to uni
02:51 Join: Ozone ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
03:00 <Abortion> Western civilisation has low birthrates
03:00 <Abortion> This is a fact, but the reason is disputed
03:00 <anotherirc3r> Ozone!!!!
03:33 <Abortion> Western civilisation has low birthrates
03:41 <Abortion> This is a fact, but the reason is disputed
04:00 <Ozone> hello :)
04:00 <Abortion> In nature, reproduction tends to be more common closer to starvation, which is something that has been mentioned in this channel before
04:00 <anotherirc3r> yes? so what if i've been to uni?
04:00 <Abortion> If survival is guaranteed, you can afford to invest in a single child
04:00 <Abortion> and it'd pay to, if it puts them ahead of all the others
04:00 <Abortion> having too many children would divide your resources too much
04:01 <anotherirc3r> Ozone!!!!
04:07 <Ozone> hello :)
04:08 <Abortion> In nature, reproduction tends to be more common closer to starvation, which is something that has been mentioned in this channel before
04:18 <anotherirc3r> yes? so what if i've been to uni?
04:23 <Abortion> If survival is guaranteed, you can afford to invest in a single child
04:31 <Abortion> and it'd pay to, if it puts them ahead of all the others
04:43 <Abortion> having too many children would divide your resources too much
05:00 <Abortion> So women not staying at home is not neccessarily the only reason why birth rates are down
05:00 <Abortion> it might not even be a reason
05:00 <Abortion> given that lots of women still leave work to have children
05:00 <Abortion> not all, but many
05:23 <Abortion> So women not staying at home is not neccessarily the only reason why birth rates are down
05:31 <Abortion> it might not even be a reason
05:42 <Abortion> given that lots of women still leave work to have children
05:45 <Abortion> not all, but many
06:00 <Abortion> My own pet theory is that the reason people are no longer meeting up and are happy with one another is because life is too good for everyone
06:00 <Abortion> when you're life is good, you tend to have higher standards
06:00 <Abortion> and thus couples are more likely to be intolerant of one another
06:00 <circle> interesting idea
06:17 <Abortion> My own pet theory is that the reason people are no longer meeting up and are happy with one another is because life is too good for everyone
06:26 <Abortion> when you're life is good, you tend to have higher standards
06:35 <Abortion> and thus couples are more likely to be intolerant of one another
07:00 <circle> interesting idea
08:00 <Abortion> So there is now 3 possibilities why birth rates are down in western society
08:00 <circle> doesn't account for the differences in birthrates between wealthy societies
08:00 <circle> compare utah to somewhere like germany
08:00 <Mx_Trump> you only have to look at the number of hollywood movies made about miserable women chasing cock to realise how unhappy they are
08:04 <Abortion> So there is now 3 possibilities why birth rates are down in western society
08:06 <circle> doesn't account for the differences in birthrates between wealthy societies
08:10 <circle> compare utah to somewhere like germany
09:00 <Mx_Trump> in their 30's
09:02 <Mx_Trump> you only have to look at the number of hollywood movies made about miserable women chasing cock to realise how unhappy they are
09:06 <Mx_Trump> in their 30's
10:00 <Abortion> In 2012, 91 percent of Utah women aged 25 and older had graduated from high school. Utah men also showed a high school graduation rate of roughly 91 percent.  Nationally, high school graduation rates equaled 87 percent for women and 86 percent for men.
10:44 <Abortion> In 2012, 91 percent of Utah women aged 25 and older had graduated from high school. Utah men also showed a high school graduation rate of roughly 91 percent. Nationally, high school graduation rates equaled 87 percent for women and 86 percent for men.
11:00 <Abortion> Utah is well educated and has a high birth rate? Interesting
11:00 <Abortion> In 2012, roughly 61 percent of Utah women over the age of 16—were participants in the labor market. Nationally, 59 percent of women were in the labor force.
11:00 <Abortion> Utah has a higher rate of female employment compared to the rest of the US as well
11:10 <Abortion> Utah is well educated and has a high birth rate? Interesting
11:24 <Abortion> In 2012, roughly 61 percent of Utah women over the age of 16—were participants in the labor market. Nationally, 59 percent of women were in the labor force.
12:00 <Abortion> (on average)
12:01 <Abortion> Utah has a higher rate of female employment compared to the rest of the US as well
12:09 <Abortion> (on average)
13:00 <Abortion> looks to me like theres another factor that hasn't been well discussed
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14:00 <erlich> that cat
14:04 <Abortion> looks to me like theres another factor that hasn't been well discussed
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14:35 <erlich> that cat
18:00 <Abortion> anotherirc3r: I didn't know you went to uni, what did you study?
18:10 <Abortion> anotherirc3r: I didn't know you went to uni, what did you study?
19:00 <anotherirc3r> business. majored in management, HR and minored in law
20:00 <anotherirc3r> business. majored in management, HR and minored in law
20:00 <Mx_Trump> where has circle gone?
20:35 <Mx_Trump> where has circle gone?
21:00 <circle> anotherirc3r: hahahaha
21:00 <circle> anotherirc3r: typical female, studying trash 
21:00 <circle> should have been a housewife
21:00 <circle> Abortion: their mormon faith
21:00 <Abortion> indeed
21:27 <circle> anotherirc3r: hahahaha
21:35 <circle> anotherirc3r: typical female, studying trash
21:38 <circle> should have been a housewife
21:47 <circle> Abortion: their mormon faith
21:57 <Abortion> indeed
22:00 <anotherirc3r> circle: i'm still waiting for you to ruin me
22:00 <Mx_Trump> she knows this now
22:00 <Abortion> so despite women being well educated and well employed, their religion allows them to have a good total fertility rate AND a good rate of survival. Why are you trying to get women to not be educated past 6th grade again?
22:09 <anotherirc3r> circle: i'm still waiting for you to ruin me
22:54 <Mx_Trump> she knows this now
22:56 <Abortion> so despite women being well educated and well employed, their religion allows them to have a good total fertility rate AND a good rate of survival. Why are you trying to get women to not be educated past 6th grade again?
23:00 <erlich> circle hs pics of anotherirc3r as a goth in ayellow manilla folder
23:00 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
23:00 <erlich> this will be the end of anotherirc3r 
23:14 <erlich> circle hs pics of anotherirc3r as a goth in ayellow manilla folder
23:28 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
23:30 <erlich> this will be the end of anotherirc3r
25:00 <Mx_Trump> are u saying anotherirc3r is prom?
25:00 <Warren1984> JEN
25:27 <Mx_Trump> are u saying anotherirc3r is prom?
25:45 <Warren1984> JEN
26:00 <anotherirc3r> Warren! :)
26:05 <anotherirc3r> Warren! :)
29:00 <circle> Abortion: it would make men and women happier, for one
29:00 <anotherirc3r> any luck with those photos circle?
29:00 <Abortion> You haven't adequately demonstrated that. Are you saying women in Utah aren't happy?
29:00 <anotherirc3r> i did warn you i'm too old for your tastes
29:00 <circle> haven't tried yet anotherirc3r 
29:00 <circle> Abortion: women in utah are happier than women elsewhere in the us
29:00 <circle> Abortion: it's a very traditional state
29:00 <circle> very high proportion of sahms
29:00 <anotherirc3r> okay keyboard warrior. good luck to you
29:07 <circle> Abortion: it would make men and women happier, for one
29:25 <anotherirc3r> any luck with those photos circle?
29:30 <Abortion> You haven't adequately demonstrated that. Are you saying women in Utah aren't happy?
29:34 <anotherirc3r> i did warn you i'm too old for your tastes
29:34 <circle> haven't tried yet anotherirc3r
29:47 <circle> Abortion: women in utah are happier than women elsewhere in the us
29:53 <circle> Abortion: it's a very traditional state
29:59 <circle> very high proportion of sahms
29:59 <anotherirc3r> okay keyboard warrior. good luck to you
30:00 <Ozone> lol
30:00 <Abortion> Very traditional state with good education
30:00 <Abortion> flies completely in the face of your suggestion that it is education we need to cut back
30:06 <Ozone> lol
30:11 <Abortion> Very traditional state with good education
30:21 <Abortion> flies completely in the face of your suggestion that it is education we need to cut back
31:00 <circle> high high school graduation rate
31:00 <circle> which is mainly because they are very white
31:00 <Abortion> and?
31:00 <Abortion> 91% for both men and women
31:04 <circle> high high school graduation rate
31:10 <circle> which is mainly because they are very white
31:16 <Abortion> and?
31:30 <Abortion> 91% for both men and women
32:00 <circle> so
33:00 <Abortion> You still haven't backed up your statement that *all* people would be happier if women were less educated. Using middle aged women is an anecdote, and applies to a narrow part of the population
33:00 <circle> i don't think all people would be
33:00 <circle> i just think most would be
33:00 <circle> and that's enough for me
33:00 <Abortion> In fact it is a stereotype
33:00 <Abortion> you're implying most aren't happy at the moment
33:00 <Abortion> which you haven't demonstrated
33:02 <circle> so
33:05 <Abortion> You still haven't backed up your statement that *all* people would be happier if women were less educated. Using middle aged women is an anecdote, and applies to a narrow part of the population
33:18 <circle> i don't think all people would be
33:21 <circle> i just think most would be
33:23 <circle> and that's enough for me
33:26 <Abortion> In fact it is a stereotype
33:32 <Abortion> you're implying most aren't happy at the moment
33:37 <Abortion> which you haven't demonstrated
34:00 <Abortion> and you still haven't demonstrated that they'd be happier
34:00 <Mx_Trump> yeah we have two perfect examples here, Lish and anotherirc3r
34:00 <Abortion> You can believe it, thats fine
34:00 <Abortion> but you said you wanted to do this rationally
34:00 <Abortion> still anecdotes
34:26 <Abortion> and you still haven't demonstrated that they'd be happier
34:28 <Mx_Trump> yeah we have two perfect examples here, Lish and anotherirc3r
34:32 <Abortion> You can believe it, thats fine
34:40 <Abortion> but you said you wanted to do this rationally
34:59 <Abortion> still anecdotes
35:00 <Abortion> You've ignored the likely selection bias that comes with people on IRC
35:00 <Lish> I'm happy 
35:00 <Abortion> Well there you go\
35:00 <circle> "I'm happy," the crazy cat woman says to herself, as she holds back tears.
35:00 <Abortion> Happiness is self judged
35:00 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllll
35:00 <Lish> I hate cats 
35:28 <Abortion> You've ignored the likely selection bias that comes with people on IRC
35:34 <Lish> I'm happy
35:41 <Abortion> Well there you go\
35:53 <circle> "I'm happy," the crazy cat woman says to herself, as she holds back tears.
35:53 <Abortion> Happiness is self judged
35:55 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllll
36:00 <Lish> Everyone knows that
36:00 <erlich> Lish
36:00 <erlich> pat me on the head
36:00 <circle> "I'm happy", the crazy cat woman tells herself as she watches her old school friends get husbands and children. "I don't need children, I have my cats."
36:00 <erlich> ive been a good boy at work
36:00 <Abortion> There is no better decider for happiness than the person themselves
36:00 <erlich> doing 10+ hours daily
36:00 <Lish> I have a husband 
36:00 <circle> "I'm not happy", the crazy cat woman says as she lies on her death bed, all alone.
36:00 <circle> "And I never was."
36:00 <Lish> Good job xm!!!! Hard worker lol
36:00 <Lish> I'm shocked, you going in early?
36:00 <erlich> thanks!!! finally some acknowledgement from Lish
36:00 <Abortion> lol so everything you've described is false with respect to Lish, circle
36:00 <erlich> today i was in at 9am!!! and yesterday at 8.30am!!!
36:02 <Lish> I hate cats
36:15 <Lish> Everyone knows that
36:16 <erlich> Lish
36:20 <erlich> pat me on the head
36:21 <circle> "I'm happy", the crazy cat woman tells herself as she watches her old school friends get husbands and children. "I don't need children, I have my cats."
36:24 <erlich> ive been a good boy at work
36:25 <Abortion> There is no better decider for happiness than the person themselves
36:27 <erlich> doing 10+ hours daily
36:33 <Lish> I have a husband
36:34 <circle> "I'm not happy", the crazy cat woman says as she lies on her death bed, all alone.
36:39 <circle> "And I never was."
36:43 <Lish> Good job xm!!!! Hard worker lol
36:48 <Lish> I'm shocked, you going in early?
36:54 <erlich> thanks!!! finally some acknowledgement from Lish
37:00 <Abortion> lol so everything you've described is false with respect to Lish, circle
37:00 <anotherirc3r> Lish is in a good mood!?
37:00 <anotherirc3r> what is wrong with the world!?
37:00 <Lish> Gosh how are you coping 
37:00 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
37:00 <Lish> No I like hard work
37:00 <erlich> very well
37:00 <Mx_Trump> i know anotherirc3r, Lish is never in a good mood
37:00 <Lish> Xm is impressing me with his strange behaviour 
37:00 <erlich> although i am sustained by energy drinks
37:00 <Lish> Hahaha
37:00 <erlich> today i had 2x 500mL of V
37:00 <Abortion> can't tell if sarcastic
37:00 <Lish> I had to get in at 8 today, I legit died
37:00 <erlich> what time did you leave?
37:02 <erlich> today i was in at 9am!!! and yesterday at 8.30am!!!
37:08 <anotherirc3r> Lish is in a good mood!?
37:13 <anotherirc3r> what is wrong with the world!?
37:14 <Lish> Gosh how are you coping
37:15 <Mx_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
37:18 <Lish> No I like hard work
37:26 <erlich> very well
37:26 <Mx_Trump> i know anotherirc3r, Lish is never in a good mood
37:30 <Lish> Xm is impressing me with his strange behaviour
37:36 <erlich> although i am sustained by energy drinks
37:40 <Lish> Hahaha
37:45 <erlich> today i had 2x 500mL of V
37:46 <Abortion> can't tell if sarcastic
37:55 <Lish> I had to get in at 8 today, I legit died
38:00 <Lish> 4.45 which was so nice
38:00 <Lish> Got stacks to do on Sunday though 
38:00 <Lish> If who's sarcastic Abortion?
38:00 <Abortion> anotherirc3r: 
38:00 <Lish> Oh yeah she was 
38:01 <erlich> what time did you leave?
38:13 <Lish> 4.45 which was so nice
38:25 <Lish> Got stacks to do on Sunday though
38:49 <Lish> If who's sarcastic Abortion?
38:54 <Abortion> anotherirc3r:
39:00 <Abortion> Mx_Trump: seemed to think she wasn't
39:00 <Lish> I'm not like a super friendly person 
39:00 <Lish> So they are shocked if I'm nice 
39:00 <Mx_Trump> Lish would be far happier if she'd got knocked up at 18 by a 25 year old and had 3 kids and still be married and raising the kids
39:02 <Lish> Oh yeah she was
39:06 <Abortion> Mx_Trump: seemed to think she wasn't
39:13 <Lish> I'm not like a super friendly person
39:19 <Lish> So they are shocked if I'm nice
39:55 <Mx_Trump> Lish would be far happier if she'd got knocked up at 18 by a 25 year old and had 3 kids and still be married and raising the kids
40:00 <Lish> Pass
40:00 <Abortion> lol that looks sarcastic to me too
40:00 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
40:00 <Lish> I was married relatively young! 27 
40:00 <Mx_Trump> anotherirc3r would be far happier if she'd got knocked up at 18 by a 25 year old and had 3 kids and still be married and raising the kids
40:00 <Mx_Trump> not sarcastic
40:00 <circle> ^
40:00 <Mx_Trump> do you disagree jen?
40:00 <circle> 27 is relatively young
40:00 <circle> ROFL
40:10 <Lish> Pass
40:16 <Abortion> lol that looks sarcastic to me too
40:20 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
40:40 <Lish> I was married relatively young! 27
40:42 <Mx_Trump> anotherirc3r would be far happier if she'd got knocked up at 18 by a 25 year old and had 3 kids and still be married and raising the kids
40:52 <Mx_Trump> not sarcastic
40:54 <circle> ^
40:55 <Mx_Trump> do you disagree jen?
41:00 <circle> 27 is relatively young
41:00 <Lish> These days it is
41:00 <circle> 27 is old as fuck even now
41:00 <Lish> I don't know anyone who was married at 27
41:00 <Abortion> your standards are for 13 year olds, circle, so of course you'd say that
41:00 <Lish> Not at my work anyway
41:00 <Lish> I have maybe one friend who was young like 23
41:00 <circle> 13 year olds are very cute and feminine
41:00 <circle> they are perfect for marriage
41:00 <Lish> She has 3 kids haha she gets an allowance from her husband
41:00 <anotherirc3r> nope Brett
41:00 <Lish> And her life would make me want to kill myself
41:00 <Abortion> Hate to say it, but that makes you a legit Pedophile
41:00 <Abortion> Well done
41:02 <circle> ROFL
41:07 <Lish> These days it is
41:09 <circle> 27 is old as fuck even now
41:16 <Lish> I don't know anyone who was married at 27
41:22 <Abortion> your standards are for 13 year olds, circle, so of course you'd say that
41:22 <Lish> Not at my work anyway
41:31 <Lish> I have maybe one friend who was young like 23
41:35 <circle> 13 year olds are very cute and feminine
41:41 <circle> they are perfect for marriage
41:43 <Lish> She has 3 kids haha she gets an allowance from her husband
41:43 <anotherirc3r> nope Brett
41:49 <Lish> And her life would make me want to kill myself
41:57 <Abortion> Hate to say it, but that makes you a legit Pedophile
42:00 <anotherirc3r> yes..
42:00 <anotherirc3r> the keyboard warrior is a creep
42:00 <Lish> Bretty, did you watch the British married at first sight?
42:03 <Abortion> Well done
42:08 <anotherirc3r> yes..
42:13 <anotherirc3r> the keyboard warrior is a creep
42:44 <Lish> Bretty, did you watch the British married at first sight?
43:00 <Mx_Trump> only the first episode Lish, boring
43:00 <circle> Abortion: a pedophile is someone who is attracted to girls who have yet to undergo puberty
43:00 <Lish> Yeah I'm watching first Ep now 
43:00 <circle> Abortion: 13 year old girls can bear children
43:00 <circle> Abortion: but the law says 16, so that's where I stop. ;)
43:00 <Lish> Yuck
43:00 <Lish> I'm disturbed by you
43:09 <Mx_Trump> only the first episode Lish, boring
43:09 <circle> Abortion: a pedophile is someone who is attracted to girls who have yet to undergo puberty
43:18 <Lish> Yeah I'm watching first Ep now
43:18 <circle> Abortion: 13 year old girls can bear children
43:25 <circle> Abortion: but the law says 16, so that's where I stop. ;)
43:34 <Lish> Yuck
43:42 <Lish> I'm disturbed by you
44:00 <Abortion> Hmm, you're techically correct
44:00 <Abortion> from a psychiactric medicine point of view
44:00 <Abortion> but you might have noticed, your views do not match up with community standards
44:00 <circle> the age of consent was 12 in most of australia until the 1960s
44:00 <Abortion> Most mothers would be very displeased to have you around any of their children 
44:07 <Abortion> Hmm, you're techically correct
44:27 <Abortion> from a psychiactric medicine point of view
44:40 <Abortion> but you might have noticed, your views do not match up with community standards
44:59 <circle> the age of consent was 12 in most of australia until the 1960s
45:00 <circle> I find that unlikely.
45:00 <circle> I am not a rapist. 
45:00 <Lish> You sound like it
45:00 <Abortion> If you told them your views, they would
45:00 <circle> Do you know that the ages at which girls get cat-called most are between 12 and 15, Lish?
45:03 <Abortion> Most mothers would be very displeased to have you around any of their children
45:25 <circle> I find that unlikely.
45:27 <circle> I am not a rapist.
45:38 <Lish> You sound like it
45:55 <Abortion> If you told them your views, they would
46:00 <circle> In Australia I mean.
46:00 <Lish> What is cat called?
46:00 <Mx_Trump> quite immature calling circle a rapist
46:00 <Abortion> So you're missing the support of the demographic which you most believe should be proteced
46:00 <anotherirc3r> what does that have to do with anything keyboard warrior?
46:04 <circle> Do you know that the ages at which girls get cat-called most are between 12 and 15, Lish?
46:15 <circle> In Australia I mean.
46:17 <Lish> What is cat called?
46:24 <Mx_Trump> quite immature calling circle a rapist
46:25 <Abortion> So you're missing the support of the demographic which you most believe should be proteced
46:43 <anotherirc3r> what does that have to do with anything keyboard warrior?
47:00 <circle> Younger girls are innocent, naive, feminine, graceful, and very pretty. Quite a difference to old jaded feminist women.
47:00 <Abortion> You kidding?
47:26 <circle> Younger girls are innocent, naive, feminine, graceful, and very pretty. Quite a difference to old jaded feminist women.
47:59 <Abortion> You kidding?
48:00 <Abortion> Teenage girls are bitches
48:00 <Abortion> they'll chew anyone out who shows sign of weakness
48:00 <Abortion> Graceful my ass
48:00 <circle> Teenage girls are mouldable.
48:00 <Lish> You're very creepy
48:00 <circle> Natural followers.
48:08 <Abortion> Teenage girls are bitches
48:20 <Abortion> they'll chew anyone out who shows sign of weakness
48:35 <Abortion> Graceful my ass
48:42 <circle> Teenage girls are mouldable.
48:55 <Lish> You're very creepy
48:56 <circle> Natural followers.
49:00 <Abortion> Mothers would not like to hear that
49:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
49:00 <Mx_Trump> teenage girls should be looking for a husband, not being brainwashed by feminists
49:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm so glad Lish is here to see how creepy you are KB warrior
49:00 <Abortion> They would probably also disagree
49:00 <circle> Mx_Trump: yep
49:00 <Abortion> having had trouble controlling them themselves
49:30 <Abortion> Mothers would not like to hear that
49:31 <anotherirc3r> lol
49:43 <Mx_Trump> teenage girls should be looking for a husband, not being brainwashed by feminists
49:45 <anotherirc3r> i'm so glad Lish is here to see how creepy you are KB warrior
49:47 <Abortion> They would probably also disagree
50:00 <Abortion> because you can be damn sure that parents want oversight over their kids
50:00 <circle> Do mothers never want their daughters to get a husband or a boyfriend?
50:00 <circle> You're crazy Abortion.
50:00 <Abortion> Mothers are concerned with the standard of their boyfriend
50:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm fairly certain they wouldn't want their daughters to marry something like you
50:02 <circle> Mx_Trump: yep
50:02 <Abortion> having had trouble controlling them themselves
50:12 <Abortion> because you can be damn sure that parents want oversight over their kids
50:36 <circle> Do mothers never want their daughters to get a husband or a boyfriend?
50:52 <circle> You're crazy Abortion.
50:56 <Abortion> Mothers are concerned with the standard of their boyfriend
51:00 <Abortion> Are you joking? I'm crazy?
51:00 <Abortion> I'm not the one being called a creep
51:00 <circle> Most mothers would be very proud their daughter found a boyfriend like me.
51:00 <Abortion> You're delusional
51:00 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
51:00 <anotherirc3r> oh, god
51:04 <anotherirc3r> i'm fairly certain they wouldn't want their daughters to marry something like you
51:10 <Abortion> Are you joking? I'm crazy?
51:19 <Abortion> I'm not the one being called a creep
51:34 <circle> Most mothers would be very proud their daughter found a boyfriend like me.
51:47 <Abortion> You're delusional
51:54 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
51:55 <anotherirc3r> oh, god
52:00 <anotherirc3r> you really are hopeless
52:00 <Mx_Trump> if i had a 15 year old daughter i would be happy if she brought home circle as an older boyfriend
52:00 <anotherirc3r> too old Brett
52:00 <Abortion> I don't claim to be gods gift to earth, but it sounds like you do
52:00 <Abortion> and here you have women telling you to your face that you're not
52:00 <circle> listen to Mx_Trump 
52:00 <Abortion> as evidence goes, its more than anything you've come up with, circle
52:09 <anotherirc3r> you really are hopeless
52:09 <Mx_Trump> if i had a 15 year old daughter i would be happy if she brought home circle as an older boyfriend
52:18 <anotherirc3r> too old Brett
52:19 <Abortion> I don't claim to be gods gift to earth, but it sounds like you do
52:29 <Abortion> and here you have women telling you to your face that you're not
52:32 <circle> listen to Mx_Trump
52:59 <Abortion> as evidence goes, its more than anything you've come up with, circle
53:00 <anotherirc3r> how old are you circle?
53:00 <Ozone> 57
53:00 <Mx_Trump> 54
53:00 <anotherirc3r> hahahaha
53:23 <anotherirc3r> how old are you circle?
53:30 <Ozone> 57
53:37 <Mx_Trump> 54
53:41 <anotherirc3r> hahahaha
54:00 <circle> anotherirc3r: 24
54:53 <circle> anotherirc3r: 24
56:00 <circle> if i had a daughter
56:00 <circle> main way id' get mad
56:00 <circle> is if she brought home a non-white
56:51 <circle> if i had a daughter
56:57 <circle> main way id' get mad
57:00 <circle> i'd probably end up killing him
57:00 <circle> and casting her out
57:00 <anotherirc3r> i'd feel sorry for her
57:00 <Abortion> fuck me
57:00 <Abortion> casting her out too
57:00 <Abortion> remind me why sharia law doesn't interest you again?
57:00 <circle> for choosing to bring home a non white
57:00 <circle> you shouldn't anotherirc3r 
57:00 <circle> she'd be well taken care of
57:01 <circle> is if she brought home a non-white
57:11 <circle> i'd probably end up killing him
57:12 <circle> and casting her out
57:16 <anotherirc3r> i'd feel sorry for her
57:18 <Abortion> fuck me
57:24 <Abortion> casting her out too
57:30 <Abortion> remind me why sharia law doesn't interest you again?
57:35 <circle> for choosing to bring home a non white
57:55 <circle> you shouldn't anotherirc3r
58:00 <circle> protected, cherished, valued
58:00 <Abortion> She would eat you alive
58:00 <Abortion> You have no perspective
58:00 <anotherirc3r> we can only hope Abortion
58:00 <Abortion> and she would pull the wool over your eyes again and again
58:04 <circle> she'd be well taken care of
58:07 <circle> protected, cherished, valued
58:18 <Abortion> She would eat you alive
58:25 <Abortion> You have no perspective
58:28 <anotherirc3r> we can only hope Abortion
58:34 <Abortion> and she would pull the wool over your eyes again and again
59:00 <circle> doubt it
59:00 <circle> i'd raise her well and traditionally
59:00 <anotherirc3r> she'd probably sleep with negroes to show her rebellious side
59:00 <erlich> Lish is never sarcastic. i know coz i asked if she was ever sarcastic and she said, "yeah right"
59:19 <circle> doubt it
59:23 <circle> i'd raise her well and traditionally
59:28 <anotherirc3r> she'd probably sleep with negroes to show her rebellious side
59:48 <erlich> Lish is never sarcastic. i know coz i asked if she was ever sarcastic and she said, "yeah right"
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