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00:00 <xm> oh nice
00:00 <Marttinn> but yeah paste it
00:31 <Tigger_> does it ever rain there?
00:34 <xm> ive forgotten the name of the european guy that did the piano. like any foreign name to me really
00:39 <Marttinn> yes
00:51 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adVR3MT8fGg
00:52 <progressive> [ John Farnham - Age of Reason - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
00:56 <Tigger_> so it's not because of a lack of water
01:16 <Marttinn> funny fact is that is has no rivers, every water reserve is below the rocks
01:21 <Marttinn> nope
01:30 <xm> tigger would also like "You're the voice" because of the bag pipes. # Scottish Pride #
01:34 <Tigger_> the rain soaks into the the underground?
02:19 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhbRQ9pahQ0&t=1m15s yep
02:20 <progressive> [ Nacimiento del rio Queiles en Vozmediano (Soria). Falda del Moncayo - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
02:58 <Tigger_> John Farnham likes hanging around in junk yards
07:25 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZIbpexA4g8
07:26 <progressive> [ John Farnham - That's Freedom - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
07:27 <xm> good song too
07:39 <xm> he's got lots of good songs i suppose
09:09 <Marttinn> I dont like this
09:40 <Marttinn> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oQSi2aUtNtw/T-diwFIMGvI/AAAAAAAAHqg/fDWS1Bm8L94/s1600/P1040190.JPG from that white building is where I began ascension
10:06 <Tigger_> finally some trees
10:12 <Marttinn> I did the way down running and at one point I fell
13:32 <xm> was Farnham in the Little River Band?
13:46 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J9c0noZvVw
13:46 <progressive> [ John Farnham - Playing To Win (Music Video) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
13:48 <xm> poor quality though
14:00 <Marttinn> going up a blonde girl  banana style approached me and asked where the "sanctuary" (how they call the white building) was, if they were heading the right way (she was with a friend) I said, the sanctuary? and felt strange because they were almost there, I made a bit fun of them, saying, which way did you take up? she just smiled and avoid answering, finally I told them it was very close
14:27 <Marttinn> under those big rocks it lies, I said, and then she asked me about the car parking, which I also pointed
14:51 <xm> are you shy Marttinn ?
15:05 <Marttinn> I am, but in this ocassion I was not
15:17 <Marttinn> the girl had brackets and seemed to like me
15:23 <xm> i was never sure if you were shy or not
15:26 <Marttinn> unlike her friend who seemed to dislike me
15:33 <Tigger_> <xm> was Farnham in the Little River Band? < yes
15:50 <xm> tigger have you ever seen an australian band live?
16:09 <xm> i think those days are over
16:35 <xm> i cant name any australian rock band at the moment
16:40 <xm> any that are active
16:51 <xm> sure you've got JJJ but they are probably playing in pubs
17:19 <Marttinn> I might be gullible but I was in doubt that they could be that clueless on such simply track
17:23 <xm> Marttinn, so when an attractive girl is around you how do you typically act? does the lion roar?
17:44 <xm> or does the lion hide in tall grass
17:57 <Marttinn> lol, no, I am shy, but she came to me talking with that lovely face and I just reacted joyful
18:11 <xm> how sweet
18:36 <Marttinn> I woulnt just have fucked her, would have got her as formal girlfriend
18:41 <xm> lol
18:46 <xm> a keeper hey
19:00 <Tigger_> yes, I've seen Nick Cave, the Scientists, Rowland S. Howard, the Cruel Sea, Beasts of Bourbon, the Angels, lots of others
19:07 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Marttin they werent looking for the car park, they were looking for LION cock
19:12 <Marttinn> LOL
19:41 <Marttinn> if so, she should have been even more dared and asked me for the phone or mail
20:11 <Marttinn> but the brunette friend didnt get right my joke about how possibly could they be missing
20:28 <Marttinn> for things like this Id like to have google glasses
20:55 <xm> lol
21:14 <xm> a good reason to have one
22:09 <Tigger_> and seen many defunct bands that didn't make it past one album, if that
23:15 <xm> Tigger_, it is a bit ambivalent isnt it? the joy of seeing a musician live with good music BUT the crowds are awful
23:57 <xm> i would probably never go to the MCG. perhaps they can get people in and out of there efficiently, but it looks pretty packed at full capacity
24:20 <xm> someone that has been told me that as you go higher up it sort of slants
24:57 <xm> it makes you wonder how the colleseum was created all that long ago
25:07 <Tigger_> the worst way to see a band is at a music festival, which are full of hippies and boofheads that just go to these things for something to do
25:47 <Tigger_> and the one band you wanted to see, the audience is full of the types who are there to see some band you hate
26:02 <xm> this rowland howard guy looks weird
26:03 <xm> his eyes
26:07 <Tigger_> but I think the Big Day Out is dead now or something
27:39 <xm> he looks a bit like gollum
27:45 <xm> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowland_S._Howard#/media/File:Rowland_s_howard.jpg
27:46 <Jlock> i said ' see , see see rider
27:46 <progressive> [WIKIPEDIA] Rowland S. Howard#/media/File:Rowland s howard.jpg | "Rowland Stuart Howard (24 October 1959 – 30 December 2009) was an Australian rock musician, guitarist and songwriter, best known for his work with the post-punk group The Birthday Party and his subsequent solo career...."
28:13 <xm> i havent heard anything about BDO for a while
28:24 <xm> there was some other festival that used to be big here, but has shut now
28:44 <xm> i was reading about how some huge events company is going broke
29:06 <xm> the reason why it costs so much is that people are trying to make it bigger and bigger, with fireworks displays, big screens, lighting etc
29:08 <xm> it's stupid
29:14 <xm> if i wanted that id go to a gaga concert
29:17 <xm> with greeksnake
30:48 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> they are all going broke
31:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> paying loser dj's over $500k
31:01 <xm> wouldnt surprise me
31:22 <xm> armin van buuren said in a video recently the most he got for one night was $100k
31:30 <xm> but he isnt really in the top 5 i think
31:41 <xm> in terms of $$$
32:04 <Tigger_> Maddah participated in an interview with the triple j radio station in February 2014 and said that he had not expected the festival to be financially successful in 2014:
32:04 <Tigger_> I was under no illusion that it was going to be [anything but] a financial catastrophe—to say the least—this year. That was not even remotely in my mind, that I was going to walk in there and make any money this year.[24]
32:05 <Tigger_> Maddah further explained that the festival lost around A$10 million, but at the time of the interview, he was still awaiting the final financial results.[24] Maddah cited overhead cost issues from the Perth leg as detrimental to the festival:
32:06 <Tigger_> When you look through the financial history of most of the national festivals, the east coast has to subsidise events in Perth ... That's another reason why Big Day Out ticket prices were so high this year, because generally speaking you lose money in Perth. You've got two days to get there, three days to get back, all the trucking, all the production... a hotel room that you would pay $180 in Sydney is $320 a night in Perth in the same ho
32:13 <Tigger_> tel chain. The price of hiring everything is ridiculous over there. Combine that will dropping public support for festivals over there and attendance figures and then for all your trouble you get a kicking from the local government and state government. It just got to a point where it's become unbearable.[24]
32:57 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> festivals are out, infection parties are in
33:02 <xm> haha
33:53 <Tigger_> lol
34:38 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> shit
34:44 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> just turned on sky news uk
34:47 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> plane crash!!
34:56 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> but unfortunately only at an air show
35:25 <Tigger_> so stunt flying?
36:03 <Tigger_> Police have intercepted suspected users and dealers by placing drug sniffing dogs at some entrances of each festival and patrolling the event.[40] At the 2008 festival in Sydney, police made 86 drug-related arrests. In 2009, 107 people were detained for drug violations.[41] At the 2009 Perth leg of the festival tour, more than 70 arrests were charged with drug-related offences.[42]
36:12 <Tigger_> that's how plivent was arrested
38:26 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> just put on fox news
38:32 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> 'trump to cut taxes for companies'
38:49 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> wonder how much that will make his company worth
38:50 <Jlock> take a leap of faith
39:23 <Tigger_> company tax should be completely abolished, it just causes capital flight, harder for income tax to be avoided
40:15 <Warren1984> tgfi
40:23 <Warren1984> QWBHT aqrefe tyolu dsouing tomorrow
40:31 <Warren1984> wdll
43:27 <Marttinn> warren got a meltdown
49:23 <Warren1984> nuh I was typing with my gloves
49:54 <Tigger_> what gloves?
50:59 <Warren1984> leather gloves
51:04 <Warren1984> to keep my hands warm
51:32 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what can I put on my todo list for tomorrow to make the most out of my day
51:56 <Tigger_> you should tell your mum that those are your strangling gloves, to punish immoral females
52:00 <Warren1984> I know I need to do chores, study, homework, exercise
52:17 <Warren1984> my Mum is not immoral
52:25 <Tigger_> no, but females who are
55:15 <xm> lol Warren1984. typing with gloves
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56:08 <Tigger_> The 2012 festival was beset by difficulties and was described as "disastrous" by the Faster Louder website in June 2014. Headline act Kanye West did not appear at the Perth and Adelaide events, while a media report at the time alleged that "staging and fencing contractors had not been paid, sponsors were angry and the festival was beset by internal rifts, namely the firing and then apparent re-hiring of CEO Adam Zammit."[13]
58:16 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you are homeless you can make a fire
58:21 <Warren1984> and sleep next to it
58:28 <Warren1984> and go hunting and gathering
58:45 <Tigger_> do you have a permit to make a fire?
58:50 <Warren1984> who cares
58:57 <Warren1984> how else do you survive
59:09 <Tigger_> it's illegal to make a fire outside of designated areas, unless you have a permit
59:39 <Warren1984> what are they going to do, charge a homeless person with no money?
59:43 <xm> homeless or prison? which is worse... probably prison
00:08 <Marttinn> what would you do with homeless in australia Warren1984?
00:12 <xm> but if you're tough you could probably defend yourself from rapists etc. plus free meals, showers, shelter
00:18 <Marttinn> because I asume they get d$P?
00:55 <Warren1984> that is it xm
01:08 <Warren1984> chase people with fire
01:29 <Warren1984> get a burning log and hit people with it if they try to attack you
03:37 <Warren1984> you have to be fearless
04:25 <Warren1984> I have bled and cut up fish before
04:35 <Warren1984> just to make sure I know how to do it
04:45 <Warren1984> If I was hungry I could hunt an animal
06:20 <Tigger_> if you were hungry enough could you hunt a human?
06:37 <Warren1984> http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1246-7-things-no-one-tells-you-about-being-homeless.html
06:39 <progressive> [ 7 Things No One Tells You About Being Homeless | Cracked.com ] - www.cracked.com
06:42 <Warren1984> dunno Tigger_
06:49 <Warren1984> never taken it to that extreme
08:03 <Tigger_> kill someone for their MKVs
08:43 <Marttinn> but warren isnt your mothers house fully payed?
09:58 <Warren1984> I have a car to sleep in
10:15 <Warren1984> I think so Marttin
10:24 <Warren1984> but that doesn't stop her from kicking me out
11:08 <Tigger_> how many times has she kicked you out?
13:03 <Warren1984> she has tried many times
13:12 <Warren1984> #6. Having a Job Won't Save You
13:45 <Warren1984> #5. Government Benefits Aren't as Much Help as You Think
13:47 <Tigger_> how does she try to kick you out?
13:56 <Warren1984> when she makes me angry
14:01 <Warren1984> like being abusive
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16:32 <Tigger_> you could call the police
18:16 <Warren1984> nite all
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18:58 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> hello Varna
19:26 <Tigger_> hi Varna
19:36 <Varna> Hello Tigger_, how are you?
19:46 <Marttinn> looooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllll
20:12 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Varna do u know where that brilliant individual prometheanstardust is?
21:20 <Tigger_> I just updated my ipad from version 6 to 8.4
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25:47 <Marttin> ar.cdn01.mundotkm.com/2015/08/antes.jpg bullshit
27:49 <Tigger_> who is that?
28:12 <xm> the woman from Friends
28:19 <xm> Cox something
28:20 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> courntey cox
28:37 <xm> is that really her thouh... that is quite extreme
28:44 <Tigger_> Courtney Cox, she was one of Jerry's gfs on a recent episode of Seinfeld I watched
28:56 <Tigger_> though much prettier looking back then
29:11 <xm> i thought she was cute in Scream
30:10 <Marttin> I would go for her friend jennifer aniston
32:49 <Marttin> I dont remember scream/ dont know seinfeld
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42:27 <xm> i had a thing for jennifer anniston for a while
43:50 <Marttin> Lol
44:16 <Marttin> Her drama-love-humour movies are terrible though
44:32 <Marttin> Or those I have seen
46:40 <Tigger_> she has always had a wonky nose
47:50 <xm> her nose kinda looks lke her dad;s
48:02 <xm> victor kariakis from Days of Our Lives
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52:41 <Tigger_> Barbara Streisand got liposuction and a nose job at the same clinic, she asked them to suck the fat out and inject it into her nose
53:08 <xm> i dont understand how it would help the nose?
53:32 <Tigger_> to make it bigger
53:46 <xm> odd, i thought females wanted smaller noses
54:09 <Tigger_> it's her trademark
54:14 <xm> ah ok
55:10 <xm> gary coleman's ex dumped him after he got surgery to grow taller
55:59 <xm> ive finally seen some photos of kim k's butt
56:04 <xm> it's just too big and weird
56:12 <xm> it doesnt look natural either
57:29 <xm> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/ControversialGaryColemanHospitalBedPic.jpg
57:34 <xm> he looks like a baby next to her
58:39 <Jlock> its clearly destiny
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58:49 <Tigger_> it's one of the greatest missed opportunities that Gary Coleman and Gary Oldman didn't star in a film together
59:03 <xm> i was just thinking i had the wrong gary
59:09 <xm> their names are confusing
59:11 <Tigger_> as cops
59:25 <xm> i saw some photo today of some 5
59:38 <xm> 5'1 female cop(woman) and 6'9 cop (man)
59:58 <xm> they do the beat together
00:29 <xm> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/cairns-police-officers-create-stir-with-huge-height-difference/story-fnq2oad4-1227492818259
00:31 <progressive> [ Tall cop, short cop photo: Cairns, QLD, police officers have huge height difference ] - www.news.com.au
02:01 <xm> just glancing at princess mary on that page made me realise that divorce is pretty much unheard of in royal families
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07:33 <Tigger_> just what he needs to back him up in a fight
09:02 <Tigger_> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/fantasies-turn-to-nightmares-with-ashley-madison-hack-only-the-beginning/story-fnet0gt3-1227494672199
09:04 <progressive> [ Ashley Madison: Could your sexual fantasies also be exposed? ] - www.news.com.au
16:56 <Jlock> take a leap of faith
19:02 <xm> nite
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46:40 <Jlock> there seems to be a few gov works who are a fan of the ashley madison site
46:47 <layman> Need they be?
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47:35 <Jlock> i guess they only need to be of the same desire
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48:01 <Jlock> getting caught is their destiny
52:32 <Jlock> i know its hard to see, but u just need to let go
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11:58 <mimic> is Marttin the Marttin i used to play wow with?
12:23 <mimic> 10 years ago knew this martin on there
16:52 <Marttin> Nop mimic
20:49 <mimic> k
21:25 <mimic> bored
27:55 <mimic> :/
28:00 <mimic> coffee
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26:00 <mimic> https://youtu.be/ZXcCtR58jcQ
26:00 <progressive> [ apologize techno 2015 - YouTube ] - youtu.be
26:10 <mimic> https://youtu.be/ZXcCtR58jcQ
26:10 <progressive> [ apologize techno 2015 - YouTube ] - youtu.be
25:00 <Marttin> Good one mimic
25:00 <Marttin> What do you apologize for
25:52 <Marttin> Good one mimic
26:00 <Marttin> What do you apologize for
31:00 <Marttin> i.imgur.com/sLVYxFR.jpg
31:47 <Marttin> i.imgur.com/sLVYxFR.jpg
01:00 <mimic> lols
01:54 <mimic> lols
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29:00 <Warren1984> hi all
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29:35 <Warren1984> hi all
47:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/national/inside-australias-drug-epidemic-how-ice-is-tearing-our-country-apart/story-fncynjr2-1227494239807#itm=newscomau%7Cnews%7Cnca-news-plmnt-trending%7C1%7Csection-news-national-crime%7Cstory%7CDouble%20life%20exposes%20teen%20risk&itmt=1440287230423#itm=newscomau%7Cnews%7Cright-now-in-%7C0%7CInside%20Australia%E2%80%99s%20drug%20epidemic%3A%20how%20ice%20i
47:00 <Warren1984> s%20tearing%20our%20cou...%7Cstory%7CDouble%20life%20exposes%20teen%20risk&itmt=1440287230424
47:00 <progressive> [ Inside Australia’s drug epidemic: how ice is tearing our country apart ] - www.news.com.au
47:39 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/national/inside-australias-drug-epidemic-how-ice-is-tearing-our-country-apart/story-fncynjr2-1227494239807#itm=newscomau%7Cnews%7Cnca-news-plmnt-trending%7C1%7Csection-news-national-crime%7Cstory%7CDouble%20life%20exposes%20teen%20risk&itmt=1440287230423#itm=newscomau%7Cnews%7Cright-now-in-%7C0%7CInside%20Australia%E2%80%99s%20drug%20epidemic%3A%20how%20ice%20i
47:40 <Warren1984> s%20tearing%20our%20cou...%7Cstory%7CDouble%20life%20exposes%20teen%20risk&itmt=1440287230424
47:41 <progressive> [ Inside Australia’s drug epidemic: how ice is tearing our country apart ] - www.news.com.au
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24:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ in order to prove or disprove something you need photographic evidence
24:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ in order to prove or disprove something you need photographic evidence
35:00 <ajnin> i hate exams
35:00 <ajnin> just doing a practice one now
35:44 <ajnin> i hate exams
35:52 <ajnin> just doing a practice one now
36:00 <ajnin> only 7 questions
36:00 <ajnin> only for 4 right after a few weeks of study
36:00 <ajnin> not a good way to build conferdiance
36:09 <ajnin> only 7 questions
36:22 <ajnin> only for 4 right after a few weeks of study
36:33 <ajnin> not a good way to build conferdiance
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43:00 <Warren1984> yeah I am doing my homework
43:00 <Warren1984> when is your exam?
43:15 <Warren1984> yeah I am doing my homework
43:28 <Warren1984> when is your exam?
44:00 <Warren1984> didn't we discuss the other day that I do 30mins of study then 30mins of break and repeat that throughout the day
44:00 <Warren1984> or was that someone else?
44:00 <ajnin> nto with me
44:22 <Warren1984> didn't we discuss the other day that I do 30mins of study then 30mins of break and repeat that throughout the day
44:28 <Warren1984> or was that someone else?
44:56 <ajnin> nto with me
45:00 <ajnin> I cant use that method :(
45:00 <ajnin> no set date for my exam
45:00 <ajnin> when I am ready I can take it
45:03 <ajnin> I cant use that method :(
45:09 <ajnin> no set date for my exam
45:14 <ajnin> when I am ready I can take it
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46:00 <Warren1984> how does that work?
46:00 <Warren1984> no deadlines?
46:00 <Warren1984> I suffer several problems when studying
46:12 <Warren1984> how does that work?
46:16 <Warren1984> no deadlines?
46:34 <Warren1984> I suffer several problems when studying
47:00 <Warren1984> 1. boredom 2. not being productive enough 3. worry about money 4. making the wrong choice
47:11 <Warren1984> 1. boredom 2. not being productive enough 3. worry about money 4. making the wrong choice
50:00 <Warren1984> ajnin -> http://www.wikihow.com/Have-a-Routine
50:00 <progressive> [ How to Have a Routine: 10 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow ] - www.wikihow.com
50:11 <Warren1984> ajnin -> http://www.wikihow.com/Have-a-Routine
50:11 <progressive> [ How to Have a Routine: 10 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow ] - www.wikihow.com
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12:00 <Tigger_> <Warren1984> Tigger_ in order to prove or disprove something you need photographic evidence  <- how do you have photographic evidence of 2+2 = 4?
12:27 <Tigger_> <Warren1984> Tigger_ in order to prove or disprove something you need photographic evidence <- how do you have photographic evidence of 2+2 = 4?
13:00 <Warren1984> by asking every mathematician in the world how to solve it
13:00 <Warren1984> taking photographs of all the steps
13:00 <Warren1984> you see this is something that may not be a fact
13:15 <Warren1984> by asking every mathematician in the world how to solve it
13:27 <Warren1984> taking photographs of all the steps
13:47 <Warren1984> you see this is something that may not be a fact
14:00 <Warren1984> lets say the world revolved around making money
14:00 <Warren1984> already your mind is fixed on believing that the world works by making money
14:00 <Warren1984> and when that happens it becomes your opinion and subjective
14:03 <Warren1984> lets say the world revolved around making money
14:32 <Warren1984> already your mind is fixed on believing that the world works by making money
14:51 <Warren1984> and when that happens it becomes your opinion and subjective
15:00 <Warren1984> so you will go out deliberately with people who want to make money and take pictures of how they make money and what they use the money to purchase
15:32 <Warren1984> so you will go out deliberately with people who want to make money and take pictures of how they make money and what they use the money to purchase
16:00 <Warren1984> however there is perspective and objectivity that is missing
16:00 <Warren1984> If for example you believe Asians are taking over Australia
16:03 <Warren1984> however there is perspective and objectivity that is missing
16:38 <Warren1984> If for example you believe Asians are taking over Australia
17:00 <Warren1984> then you will go out of your way to show how Asians have taken over
17:00 <Tigger_> do flying saucer photos prove that flying saucers exist?
17:00 <Warren1984> but again the motive is to find proof
17:00 <Warren1984> yes
17:08 <Warren1984> then you will go out of your way to show how Asians have taken over
17:32 <Tigger_> do flying saucer photos prove that flying saucers exist?
17:36 <Warren1984> but again the motive is to find proof
17:48 <Warren1984> yes
18:00 <Warren1984> some things can be proved with photographic evidence and some things cannot
18:11 <Warren1984> some things can be proved with photographic evidence and some things cannot
19:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, you should get this: http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67836/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-250ml
19:00 <progressive> [ Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo 250ml - Chemist Warehouse ] - www.chemistwarehouse.com.au
19:00 <Warren1984> the pictures do not discriminate the circumstances of that person/persons involved
19:00 <Warren1984> why Tigger_
19:17 <Tigger_> Warren1984, you should get this: http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67836/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-250ml
19:20 <progressive> [ Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo 250ml - Chemist Warehouse ] - www.chemistwarehouse.com.au
19:24 <Warren1984> the pictures do not discriminate the circumstances of that person/persons involved
19:56 <Warren1984> why Tigger_
20:00 <Tigger_> it helps hair growth
20:21 <Tigger_> it helps hair growth
22:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can you handle just about any task that you are presented with?
22:00 <Tigger_> not if the task is boring
22:00 <Tigger_> will you use the hair growth shampoo?
22:00 <Warren1984> nuh
22:00 <Warren1984> I use Neutragenia T-gel
22:04 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can you handle just about any task that you are presented with?
22:21 <Tigger_> not if the task is boring
22:31 <Tigger_> will you use the hair growth shampoo?
22:35 <Warren1984> nuh
22:50 <Warren1984> I use Neutragenia T-gel
23:00 <Tigger_> what's that?
23:45 <Tigger_> what's that?
24:00 <Warren1984> coal-tar shampoo
24:00 <Warren1984> for my Psoriasis
24:00 <Tigger_> does it help hair regrow?
24:05 <Warren1984> coal-tar shampoo
24:15 <Warren1984> for my Psoriasis
24:58 <Tigger_> does it help hair regrow?
26:00 <Warren1984> no
26:00 <Warren1984> it cleans my head without irritating it
26:00 <Warren1984> expensive stuff though
26:09 <Glenn> Probably not, but great for keeping the moths out.
26:20 <Warren1984> no
26:32 <Warren1984> it cleans my head without irritating it
26:42 <Warren1984> expensive stuff though
27:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you had part time employment then you could save more money
27:00 <Warren1984> so the idea is to get more, more quickly
27:23 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if you had part time employment then you could save more money
27:45 <Warren1984> so the idea is to get more, more quickly
28:00 <Tigger_> but that would use up my time, less time to work on my game
28:00 <Warren1984> your game is not as important though
28:00 <Warren1984> priorities
28:12 <Tigger_> but that would use up my time, less time to work on my game
28:28 <Glenn> Latest craze for curing baldness is coffee. Trust me, drinking the stuff has no effect!
28:53 <Warren1984> your game is not as important though
28:59 <Warren1984> priorities
29:00 <Tigger_> no, this is a shampoo with caffeine in it, you could never drink enough coffee to have an effect on hair growth
29:00 <Tigger_> my game is important to me
29:00 <Tigger_> I can impress girls with it
29:10 <Tigger_> no, this is a shampoo with caffeine in it, you could never drink enough coffee to have an effect on hair growth
29:17 <Tigger_> my game is important to me
29:36 <Tigger_> I can impress girls with it
30:00 <StrykerX> Caffeine enhanced shampoo?
30:00 <StrykerX> Does it work?
30:00 <StrykerX> I know a few going bald who are gettin desperate.
30:20 <StrykerX> Caffeine enhanced shampoo?
30:23 <StrykerX> Does it work?
30:31 <StrykerX> I know a few going bald who are gettin desperate.
31:00 <Tigger_> people reckon it does
31:00 <StrykerX> I just can't see how?
31:00 <Tigger_> they should give it a go
31:00 <StrykerX> I'll let them know.
31:04 <Tigger_> people reckon it does
31:24 <StrykerX> I just can't see how?
31:24 <Tigger_> they should give it a go
31:48 <StrykerX> I'll let them know.
32:00 <Tigger_> my hair is very thick, but I'd certainly try it out if I felt it was thinning
32:00 <Tigger_> and it's way cheaper than Advanced Hair
32:13 <Tigger_> my hair is very thick, but I'd certainly try it out if I felt it was thinning
32:43 <Tigger_> and it's way cheaper than Advanced Hair
33:00 <Tigger_> Glenn, then give it a go
33:14 <Glenn> Mine on top are numbered.... my hairdresser is threatening to add a search fee to the price of a haircut :(
33:32 <Tigger_> Glenn, then give it a go
35:00 <Tigger_> no the caffeine shampoo
35:27 <Glenn> Advanced Hair Studio? Not a chance! At least I knows the quacks at the pond in the local park are genuine.
35:43 <Tigger_> no the caffeine shampoo
36:59 <Glenn> Anything else... I lived in China long enough to have seen just about everything promoted and sold restore hair growth and cure baldness. Different advertising standards left a lasting impression on the problem.
37:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is it better to organize information by location or by time?
37:36 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is it better to organize information by location or by time?
38:00 <Tigger_> time
38:00 <Tigger_> Glenn people on youtube (who I assume are not shills) say it works
38:03 <Tigger_> time
38:31 <Tigger_> Glenn people on youtube (who I assume are not shills) say it works
43:00 <Ethanol> are you losing hair, Warren1984?
43:00 <Tigger_> hi Ethanol 
43:05 <Glenn> ...mmmmm.... <*dubious look*>
43:09 <Ethanol> are you losing hair, Warren1984?
43:41 <Tigger_> hi Ethanol
44:31 <Glenn> Heads up! "Management" has arrived! :)
46:18 <Glenn> Feel free to kick the stuffings out of Songoi... he's a notorious serial ban evader whose modus operandi is to spoof foriegn hosts to mask his true identity.
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52:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
52:00 <doctor> hey warren
52:00 <Warren1984> I have some receding hair
52:00 <Tigger_> hi doctor, you might be interested in this too:  http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67836/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-250ml
52:17 <Warren1984> hey doctor
52:43 <doctor> hey warren
52:51 <Warren1984> I have some receding hair
53:00 <progressive> [ Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo 250ml - Chemist Warehouse ] - www.chemistwarehouse.com.au
53:01 <Tigger_> hi doctor, you might be interested in this too: http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67836/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-250ml
53:04 <progressive> [ Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo 250ml - Chemist Warehouse ] - www.chemistwarehouse.com.au
54:00 <doctor> pretty cheap
54:45 <doctor> pretty cheap
46:00 <Warren1984> Is soldering hard
46:00 <Warren1984> I have being reading and filling in questions about it
46:00 <Warren1984> seems to be much more involved than what I thought
46:22 <Warren1984> Is soldering hard
46:41 <Warren1984> I have being reading and filling in questions about it
46:54 <Warren1984> seems to be much more involved than what I thought
47:00 <Tigger_> I think it requires very steady hands, which I don't have
47:00 <Warren1984> neither do I
47:34 <Tigger_> I think it requires very steady hands, which I don't have
48:01 <Warren1984> neither do I
49:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can I come over your house one day?
49:52 <Warren1984> Tigger_ can I come over your house one day?
50:00 <Tigger_> you'd have a long way to walk
50:13 <Tigger_> you'd have a long way to walk
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51:00 <Warren1984> what if I come in my new corolla?
51:00 <Warren1984> and drive at 240km/hr
51:26 <Warren1984> what if I come in my new corolla?
51:37 <Warren1984> and drive at 240km/hr
52:00 <Warren1984> I would really like to drive my car over east
52:00 <Warren1984> be a good experience
52:00 <Tigger_> that might ruin it
52:00 <Warren1984> I think 110km/hr is the Australian limit
52:00 <Warren1984> all over Australia
52:00 <Ethanol> did you buy a new car, Warren1984?
52:10 <Warren1984> I would really like to drive my car over east
52:15 <Warren1984> be a good experience
52:17 <Tigger_> that might ruin it
52:37 <Warren1984> I think 110km/hr is the Australian limit
52:42 <Warren1984> all over Australia
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52:59 <Ethanol> did you buy a new car, Warren1984?
53:00 <Warren1984> yeah
53:00 <Tigger_> there wouldn't be any speed cameras on the Nullabor Plain
53:00 <Warren1984> about 2 months ago
53:00 <Warren1984> 2010 Toyota Corrola
53:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984 has been doing a lot of circle work in his new car
53:00 <Warren1984> circle work?
53:00 <Warren1984> I like the colour of my car
53:08 <Warren1984> yeah
53:11 <Tigger_> there wouldn't be any speed cameras on the Nullabor Plain
53:16 <Warren1984> about 2 months ago
53:24 <Warren1984> 2010 Toyota Corrola
53:33 <Tigger_> Warren1984 has been doing a lot of circle work in his new car
53:45 <Warren1984> circle work?
54:00 <Tigger_> burning black circles on the road by doing burnouts
54:00 <Warren1984> but I think it will be hot in the summer
54:00 <Warren1984> oh
54:00 <Ethanol> http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes
54:00 <progressive> [ Study of Holocaust survivors finds trauma passed on to children's genes | Science | The Guardian ] - www.theguardian.com
54:00 <Ethanol> I think someone from this channel predicted this
54:00 <Tigger_> whiners beget whiners
54:00 <Ethanol> Jews have to retain their victim status somehow
54:00 <Warren1984> Ethanol do you have a job at the moment
54:02 <Warren1984> I like the colour of my car
54:08 <Tigger_> burning black circles on the road by doing burnouts
54:11 <Warren1984> but I think it will be hot in the summer
54:16 <Warren1984> oh
54:23 <Ethanol> http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes
54:24 <progressive> [ Study of Holocaust survivors finds trauma passed on to children's genes | Science | The Guardian ] - www.theguardian.com
54:33 <Ethanol> I think someone from this channel predicted this
54:47 <Tigger_> whiners beget whiners
54:51 <Ethanol> Jews have to retain their victim status somehow
54:57 <Warren1984> Ethanol do you have a job at the moment
55:00 <Ethanol> yes Warren1984 
55:00 <Tigger_> they can't compete with the triggercaust though
55:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ was saying you are finding it hard at the moment
55:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ my car has a toebar
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55:23 <Ethanol> yes Warren1984
55:38 <Tigger_> they can't compete with the triggercaust though
55:39 <Warren1984> Tigger_ was saying you are finding it hard at the moment
55:57 <Warren1984> Tigger_ my car has a toebar
56:00 <Warren1984> transport clip clop to vaness's house
56:00 <Ethanol> yes, not many jobs in R&D at the moment
56:00 <Warren1984> then you can teach her how to ride
56:00 <Tigger_> I said that the work is drying up, so only the experienced have a chance
56:00 <Ethanol> plenty of office fauna jobs though
56:00 <Warren1984> I was saying to Tigger_ yesterday that the more you earn the more likely you are to become redundant
56:16 <Warren1984> transport clip clop to vaness's house
56:23 <Ethanol> yes, not many jobs in R&D at the moment
56:26 <Warren1984> then you can teach her how to ride
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56:29 <Tigger_> I said that the work is drying up, so only the experienced have a chance
56:43 <Ethanol> plenty of office fauna jobs though
56:55 <Warren1984> I was saying to Tigger_ yesterday that the more you earn the more likely you are to become redundant
57:00 <Warren1984> what are they Ethanol
57:00 <Ethanol> project managers, marketing executives, social media analysts
57:00 <Ethanol> pointless busy work jobs
57:15 <Warren1984> what are they Ethanol
57:25 <Ethanol> project managers, marketing executives, social media analysts
57:37 <Ethanol> pointless busy work jobs
59:00 <Warren1984> my cousin in England has a marketing degree and he cannot find a job
59:48 <Warren1984> my cousin in England has a marketing degree and he cannot find a job
00:00 <Ethanol> he obviously hasn't interned long enough
00:46 <Ethanol> he obviously hasn't interned long enough
01:00 <Ethanol> one must complete at least 5 unpaid internships to get a real job in this day and age
01:41 <Ethanol> one must complete at least 5 unpaid internships to get a real job in this day and age
02:00 <Tigger_> how long since he got his marketing degree?
02:43 <Tigger_> how long since he got his marketing degree?
04:00 <Ethanol> He'll have no shortage of job offers once he gets 2 years of experience under his belt. 
04:48 <Ethanol> He'll have no shortage of job offers once he gets 2 years of experience under his belt.
09:00 <Tigger_> how long is a marketing degree?  3 or 4 years?
09:10 <Tigger_> how long is a marketing degree? 3 or 4 years?
10:00 <Ethanol> 3 years
10:12 <Ethanol> 3 years
11:00 <doctor> going to have to start competing with the working visas shortly to pick strawberries out rural
11:00 <Tigger_> so 5 years before any money is earned
11:15 <doctor> going to have to start competing with the working visas shortly to pick strawberries out rural
11:51 <Tigger_> so 5 years before any money is earned
19:00 <Tigger_> doctor, I thought that was the way it always worked?
19:41 <Tigger_> doctor, I thought that was the way it always worked?
21:00 <doctor> Maybe a few decades a go but it's not exactly the kind of work I can be bothered doing. Even for $20 an hour
21:00 <doctor> kinda feel stuck in a rut doing that kind of work, it would be different for working visas as they know it's only temporary
21:25 <doctor> Maybe a few decades a go but it's not exactly the kind of work I can be bothered doing. Even for $20 an hour
21:58 <doctor> kinda feel stuck in a rut doing that kind of work, it would be different for working visas as they know it's only temporary
22:00 <Tigger_> and then getting sun burnt
22:42 <Tigger_> and then getting sun burnt
51:00 <doctor> yeah, i burn quite bad
51:00 <doctor> but after a while I do tan
51:55 <doctor> yeah, i burn quite bad
52:01 <doctor> but after a while I do tan
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21:00 <Tigger_> just mowed the grass, first time since autumn
21:58 <Tigger_> just mowed the grass, first time since autumn
26:00 <Warren1984> what type of lawn mower do you have?
27:00 <Tigger_> I don't know
27:01 <Warren1984> what type of lawn mower do you have?
27:39 <Tigger_> I don't know
29:00 <Tigger_> I'd have to clean the encrusted, dried grass from wherever it says what the brand is
29:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ had to study 5 years unpaid to get the D$P
29:09 <Tigger_> I'd have to clean the encrusted, dried grass from wherever it says what the brand is
29:27 <Warren1984> Tigger_ had to study 5 years unpaid to get the D$P
30:00 <Warren1984> [12:11] <@doctor> going to have to start competing with the working visas shortly to pick strawberries out rural <- what you personally doctor?
30:23 <Warren1984> [12:11] <@doctor> going to have to start competing with the working visas shortly to pick strawberries out rural <- what you personally doctor?
31:00 <Warren1984> I think it's important to study something you are passionate about
31:00 <Warren1984> otherwise you will be just in the rat race
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31:45 <Warren1984> I think it's important to study something you are passionate about
32:02 <Warren1984> otherwise you will be just in the rat race
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34:00 <Tigger_> what are you passionate about?
34:54 <Tigger_> what are you passionate about?
35:00 <Warren1984> not sure
35:00 <Warren1984> because I can't tell if something is a passion or an obsession
35:19 <Warren1984> not sure
35:35 <Warren1984> because I can't tell if something is a passion or an obsession
39:00 <Warren1984> I made eggs and bacon for lunch
39:14 <Warren1984> I made eggs and bacon for lunch
41:00 <Tigger_> http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/coalition-selling-out-to-unions-retail-groups-in-push-to-lower-overseas-online-gst-threshold/story-fnkgdftz-1227174799685
41:00 <progressive> [ GST on online purchases: Plan to lower threshold ] - www.news.com.au
41:59 <Tigger_> http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/coalition-selling-out-to-unions-retail-groups-in-push-to-lower-overseas-online-gst-threshold/story-fnkgdftz-1227174799685
42:00 <Tigger_> an article from the beginning of the year, and every tentative GST proposal made then now seems to be concrete policy
42:02 <progressive> [ GST on online purchases: Plan to lower threshold ] - www.news.com.au
42:32 <Tigger_> an article from the beginning of the year, and every tentative GST proposal made then now seems to be concrete policy
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59:00 <Warren1984> doctor you are not talking about giving up on your course are you?
59:03 <Warren1984> doctor you are not talking about giving up on your course are you?
15:04 * INVESTEC_ASHES slaps Warren1984 around a bit with a large trout
20:00 <Tigger_> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/22/video_trump_supporter_yells_out_white_power_during_alabama_rally.html
20:00 <progressive> [ Video: Trump supporter yells out “white power” during Alabama rally. ] - www.slate.com
20:22 <Tigger_> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/22/video_trump_supporter_yells_out_white_power_during_alabama_rally.html
20:23 <progressive> [ Video: Trump supporter yells out “white power” during Alabama rally. ] - www.slate.com
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28:00 <doctor> nah im not
28:15 <doctor> nah im not
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05:00 <xm> anyone here have CS:GO on Steam?
05:00 <xm> Warren1984?
05:00 <xm> we should play sometime
05:08 <xm> anyone here have CS:GO on Steam?
05:14 <xm> Warren1984?
05:18 <xm> we should play sometime
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10:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> loloololllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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10:11 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> loloololllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
12:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> morning all
12:33 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> morning all
13:00 <Warren1984> I have the old counter strike
13:39 <Warren1984> I have the old counter strike
16:00 <xm> the new one is only $7USD
16:00 <Tigger_> morning Mx_Brettingham_Trump 
16:00 <xm> the graphics is very good
16:56 <xm> the new one is only $7USD
17:00 <Tigger_> morning Mx_Brettingham_Trump
17:02 <xm> the graphics is very good
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30:00 <Tigger_> hi Shane 
30:12 <Tigger_> hi Shane
33:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> is this caravan shane?
33:00 <xm> no
33:43 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> is this caravan shane?
33:53 <xm> no
35:00 <xm> he used to go in #random tho, but i think it's another person
35:00 <Tigger_> no, obviously not, the real Shane would never say this: courgette for the larger lady
35:35 <xm> he used to go in #random tho, but i think it's another person
35:55 <Tigger_> no, obviously not, the real Shane would never say this: courgette for the larger lady
36:00 <xm> yeah that's why i dont thimk it is
36:00 <xm> lol
36:10 <xm> yeah that's why i dont thimk it is
36:13 <xm> lol
40:00 <Warren1984> what is happening with this whole MH370 thing?
41:00 <Tigger_> xm, have you heard of this caffeine shampoo: http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67836/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-250ml
41:00 <progressive> [ Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo 250ml - Chemist Warehouse ] - www.chemistwarehouse.com.au
41:01 <Warren1984> what is happening with this whole MH370 thing?
41:26 <Tigger_> xm, have you heard of this caffeine shampoo: http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/67836/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-250ml
41:30 <progressive> [ Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo 250ml - Chemist Warehouse ] - www.chemistwarehouse.com.au
51:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what is happening with this whole MH370 thing?
51:00 <Warren1984> why are they inconclusive about the wreckage
51:25 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what is happening with this whole MH370 thing?
51:48 <Warren1984> why are they inconclusive about the wreckage
53:00 <Tigger_> maybe they discovered something they want to keep a secret
53:40 <Tigger_> maybe they discovered something they want to keep a secret
54:00 <Warren1984> like a crime scence
54:00 <Tigger_> perhaps a suicide note
54:00 <Warren1984> crime scene
54:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> putin put the fake wreckage there
54:00 <Warren1984> then why haven't they revealed it
54:15 <Warren1984> like a crime scence
54:37 <Tigger_> perhaps a suicide note
54:39 <Warren1984> crime scene
54:52 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> putin put the fake wreckage there
54:56 <Warren1984> then why haven't they revealed it
55:00 <Tigger_> the pilot might have written a note "Nobody loves me, so now I'm going to end it all."
55:00 <Warren1984> unless they want to find the black box first
55:19 <Tigger_> the pilot might have written a note "Nobody loves me, so now I'm going to end it all."
55:36 <Warren1984> unless they want to find the black box first
56:00 <Warren1984> what if the pilot spray painted "infidels must die" on the side of the plane
56:51 <Warren1984> what if the pilot spray painted "infidels must die" on the side of the plane
57:00 <Warren1984> infidel. a person who does not accept a particular faith, especially Christianity. (in Christian use) an unbeliever, especially a Muslim. (in Muslim use) a person who does not accept the Islamic faith; kaffir
57:07 <Warren1984> infidel. a person who does not accept a particular faith, especially Christianity. (in Christian use) an unbeliever, especially a Muslim. (in Muslim use) a person who does not accept the Islamic faith; kaffir
01:00 <Tigger_> quite likely he was rejected, so he didn't want to live anymore
01:23 <Tigger_> quite likely he was rejected, so he didn't want to live anymore
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12:00 <Warren1984> alien abduction seems silly, because why would they take such a priceless thing
12:00 <Warren1984> they could take anything they wanted in the world
12:00 <Warren1984> why the MH370
12:25 <Warren1984> alien abduction seems silly, because why would they take such a priceless thing
12:42 <Warren1984> they could take anything they wanted in the world
12:46 <Warren1984> why the MH370
13:00 <Warren1984> I think the plane crashed and the experts will not reveal it until the case is solved
13:27 <Warren1984> I think the plane crashed and the experts will not reveal it until the case is solved
14:00 <Warren1984> like the claremont serial killer, the police won't reveal all the information to the public
14:00 <Warren1984> not until they are 100% sure
14:15 <Warren1984> like the claremont serial killer, the police won't reveal all the information to the public
14:23 <Warren1984> not until they are 100% sure
17:00 <Tigger_> perhaps the hijacker jumped out of the plane with a parachute before it crashed, and then was picked up by accomplices in a boat
17:00 <Warren1984> imagine if both MH17 and MH370 were deliberately done by Russia
17:18 <Tigger_> perhaps the hijacker jumped out of the plane with a parachute before it crashed, and then was picked up by accomplices in a boat
17:57 <Warren1984> imagine if both MH17 and MH370 were deliberately done by Russia
18:00 <Warren1984> but then you would find a plane body
18:49 <Warren1984> but then you would find a plane body
20:00 <Tigger_> there is also the gay angle
20:13 <Tigger_> there is also the gay angle
21:00 <Tigger_> The father-of-three was a fervent supporter of Anwar Ibrahim - jailed for homosexuality only hours before the Malaysia Airways jet disappeared
21:00 <Tigger_> Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a fervent supporter of his country's opposition leader who was jailed for homosexuality - illegal in Malaysia - only hours before flight MH370 vanished with 239 passengers and crew on board, the Sunday Mirror can reveal.
21:00 <Tigger_> and the MH17 flight was carrying a bunch of AIDS researchers and activists on their way to Australia
21:12 <Tigger_> The father-of-three was a fervent supporter of Anwar Ibrahim - jailed for homosexuality only hours before the Malaysia Airways jet disappeared
21:31 <Tigger_> Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a fervent supporter of his country's opposition leader who was jailed for homosexuality - illegal in Malaysia - only hours before flight MH370 vanished with 239 passengers and crew on board, the Sunday Mirror can reveal.
21:55 <Tigger_> and the MH17 flight was carrying a bunch of AIDS researchers and activists on their way to Australia
22:00 <tisk> hi
22:00 <tisk> whos alive online
22:00 <Tigger_> so it's pretty clear that there is some gay business going on with these plane crashes
22:00 <Tigger_> hi tisk 
22:00 <kokoleavia> no lish? 
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22:09 <tisk> hi
22:16 <tisk> whos alive online
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22:24 <Tigger_> so it's pretty clear that there is some gay business going on with these plane crashes
22:26 <Tigger_> hi tisk
22:55 <kokoleavia> no lish?
23:00 <Tigger_> lish will be on in a bit
23:09 <Tigger_> lish will be on in a bit
24:00 <tisk> ne1 want my bong
24:16 <tisk> ne1 want my bong
25:00 <tisk> farout bongs are disgusting
25:16 <tisk> farout bongs are disgusting
26:00 <Warren1984> that is interesting the 1st transponder if it malfunctions, the pilots can then activate the 2nd one manually
26:00 <kokoleavia> tisk u got snapchat
26:00 <Warren1984> not automatically
26:24 <Warren1984> that is interesting the 1st transponder if it malfunctions, the pilots can then activate the 2nd one manually
26:31 <kokoleavia> tisk u got snapchat
26:32 <Warren1984> not automatically
27:00 <tisk> nah kokoleavia u got fb
27:34 <tisk> nah kokoleavia u got fb
28:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if they thought about hi-jacking the plane, why wouldn't they consider the fact that the military would shoot them down
28:38 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if they thought about hi-jacking the plane, why wouldn't they consider the fact that the military would shoot them down
29:00 <Tigger_> if they planned to die anyway, why would they care if the military shoots them down?
29:00 <Warren1984> ahh I guess it's like 9/11 they caught them off gaurd
29:00 <Tigger_> not that I'd expect the Malaysian airforce to be able to hit anything
29:11 <Tigger_> if they planned to die anyway, why would they care if the military shoots them down?
29:15 <Warren1984> ahh I guess it's like 9/11 they caught them off gaurd
29:25 <Tigger_> not that I'd expect the Malaysian airforce to be able to hit anything
34:00 <tisk> watching abc news
34:00 <tisk> poor kids on that
34:00 <tisk> an i complain
34:00 <tisk> fuck that
34:09 <tisk> watching abc news
34:18 <tisk> poor kids on that
34:25 <tisk> an i complain
34:30 <tisk> fuck that
35:00 <tisk> ppl spending 20$ on weed which could feed whole family for 1month
35:11 <tisk> ppl spending 20$ on weed which could feed whole family for 1month
36:00 <Tigger_> how long will $20 of weed last the family?
36:00 <Warren1984> youtube has put ad's in the middle of clips now
36:00 <tisk> lol 2 rollies
36:31 <Tigger_> how long will $20 of weed last the family?
36:51 <Warren1984> youtube has put ad's in the middle of clips now
36:56 <tisk> lol 2 rollies
37:00 <tisk> u know what i mean
37:00 <tisk> rice
37:00 <tisk> greens
37:00 <tisk> water
37:00 <tisk> i not saying i gonna work
37:00 <tisk> but i gonna try not waste money
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37:04 <tisk> u know what i mean
37:07 <tisk> rice
37:10 <tisk> greens
37:12 <tisk> water
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37:42 <tisk> i not saying i gonna work
37:52 <tisk> but i gonna try not waste money
38:00 <Tigger_> the youtube ad blocker gets rid of most of the youtube ads
38:59 <Tigger_> the youtube ad blocker gets rid of most of the youtube ads
39:00 <tisk> for every bong head smoking a gram a day
39:00 <tisk> they could feed a tribe
39:00 <tisk> wtf should druggies get benefits
39:23 <tisk> for every bong head smoking a gram a day
39:31 <tisk> they could feed a tribe
39:51 <tisk> wtf should druggies get benefits
40:00 <tisk> i quit
40:00 <tisk> 20 x 365
40:13 <tisk> i quit
40:41 <tisk> 20 x 365
41:00 <tisk> 7300
41:00 <tisk> u know what the fuck that can buy
41:00 <tisk> a fucken skyline 
41:06 <tisk> 7300
41:16 <tisk> u know what the fuck that can buy
41:25 <tisk> a fucken skyline
44:00 <Tigger_> does it cost $20 a day?
45:00 <Tigger_> what does meth cost a day?
45:02 <Tigger_> does it cost $20 a day?
45:20 <Tigger_> what does meth cost a day?
53:00 <xm> Tigger_, i only heard of it y'day
53:00 <xm> someone posted it here
53:00 <xm> although what im using is pretty good so far
53:20 <xm> Tigger_, i only heard of it y'day
53:24 <xm> someone posted it here
53:51 <xm> although what im using is pretty good so far
54:00 <Tigger_> what difference has it made?
54:00 <xm> i never really lost hair, just had it thinning from psych meds and possibly genes
54:00 <xm> apparently if i stop epilim it will go back normal 
54:15 <Tigger_> what difference has it made?
54:30 <xm> i never really lost hair, just had it thinning from psych meds and possibly genes
54:55 <xm> apparently if i stop epilim it will go back normal
55:00 <xm> it is more common than people think
55:00 <xm> it also causes the hair to grow a bit weird, like curly
55:00 <xm> although my hair was already slightly curly before, it made it weird curly
55:00 <xm> anyhow i noticed results after about 2 months
55:00 <xm> now it's really getting there
55:16 <xm> it is more common than people think
55:25 <xm> it also causes the hair to grow a bit weird, like curly
55:35 <xm> although my hair was already slightly curly before, it made it weird curly
55:48 <xm> anyhow i noticed results after about 2 months
55:56 <xm> now it's really getting there
56:00 <xm> the problem i had though was that i was mainly applying at the front because that's where i could see it best, so there were a few random patches at the back
56:00 <xm> now that i know that it's more even
56:00 <xm> bbl
56:26 <xm> the problem i had though was that i was mainly applying at the front because that's where i could see it best, so there were a few random patches at the back
56:32 <xm> now that i know that it's more even
56:32 <xm> bbl
57:00 <Tigger_> it's odd that anyone is bald at all now with these solutions
57:00 <Warren1984> 6 hours 3mins until bedtime
57:49 <Tigger_> it's odd that anyone is bald at all now with these solutions
58:00 <Warren1984> 6 hours 3mins until bedtime
58:00 <Warren1984> didn't complete everything on my todo list
58:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> warren has
58:45 <Warren1984> didn't complete everything on my todo list
58:53 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> warren has
04:00 <Tigger_> what didn't you complete?
04:05 <Tigger_> what didn't you complete?
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07:00 <wazzniak> I dont know how people can play fps without a mouse
07:00 <wazzniak> Like use a controller
07:35 <wazzniak> I dont know how people can play fps without a mouse
08:03 <wazzniak> Like use a controller
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10:00 <Tigger_> mouse and keyboard are what the professional FPS players use
10:27 <Tigger_> mouse and keyboard are what the professional FPS players use
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20:00 <wazzniak> Whats yor preference
20:31 <wazzniak> Whats yor preference
21:00 <tisk> i got cod black ops 2 pc
21:00 <tisk> but crap video card
21:00 <Tigger_> I prefer gamepad, particularly the 360 gamepad
21:46 <tisk> i got cod black ops 2 pc
21:58 <tisk> but crap video card
22:01 <Tigger_> I prefer gamepad, particularly the 360 gamepad
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26:00 <wazzniak> Theyre only good for games like tekke 
26:00 <tisk> n
26:00 <wazzniak> Im not used to it for fps
26:47 <wazzniak> Theyre only good for games like tekke
26:55 <tisk> n
26:58 <wazzniak> Im not used to it for fps
27:00 <tisk> had a sexy girl look at me today
27:00 <tisk> hope it was me
27:00 <tisk> i respect her
27:00 <wazzniak> Did you show her your soundcloud
27:00 <tisk> no she hears it all time neways
27:00 <tisk> which i gonna stop
27:07 <tisk> had a sexy girl look at me today
27:12 <tisk> hope it was me
27:16 <tisk> i respect her
27:27 <wazzniak> Did you show her your soundcloud
27:40 <tisk> no she hears it all time neways
27:50 <tisk> which i gonna stop
28:00 <tisk> i just nemore hugs
28:00 <tisk> and my condition is cured
28:00 <tisk> need more
28:00 <tisk> dyslexic
28:00 <wazzniak> How do you know her
28:11 <tisk> i just nemore hugs
28:17 <tisk> and my condition is cured
28:25 <tisk> need more
28:29 <tisk> dyslexic
28:47 <wazzniak> How do you know her
29:00 <tisk> chatted on here once and see was looking for place to buy
29:00 <tisk> if i not trippin
29:00 <tisk> mate said she was looking at him
29:07 <tisk> chatted on here once and see was looking for place to buy
29:12 <tisk> if i not trippin
29:30 <tisk> mate said she was looking at him
30:00 <tisk> then chick across road looks at me too
30:00 <tisk> when we were sitting out front
30:00 <tisk> her boyfriend is lucky man
30:27 <tisk> then chick across road looks at me too
30:36 <tisk> when we were sitting out front
30:49 <tisk> her boyfriend is lucky man
31:00 <wazzniak> Perhaps late night while ypu got drunk someone drew a penis on your forehead
31:00 <Warren1984> the voice recorder box in the MH370 only records for the last 2 hours
31:00 <wazzniak> Check the mirror
31:00 <tisk> i did
31:00 <wazzniak> Nah i kid
31:00 <Warren1984> so even if they do find the black box it won't tell them what happened
31:00 <Warren1984> because the plane flew on for 6 hours
31:10 <wazzniak> Perhaps late night while ypu got drunk someone drew a penis on your forehead
31:13 <Warren1984> the voice recorder box in the MH370 only records for the last 2 hours
31:24 <wazzniak> Check the mirror
31:27 <tisk> i did
31:30 <wazzniak> Nah i kid
31:40 <Warren1984> so even if they do find the black box it won't tell them what happened
31:59 <Warren1984> because the plane flew on for 6 hours
32:00 <Warren1984> someone new the exploit in the plane technology
32:00 <Warren1984> new = knew
32:00 <tisk> nu
32:00 <tisk> lols
32:11 <Warren1984> someone new the exploit in the plane technology
32:17 <Warren1984> new = knew
32:31 <tisk> nu
32:35 <tisk> lols
33:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Tigger_
33:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i mean tisk
33:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> make some more dancing videos
33:00 <wazzniak> I anna see more mad sins tism
33:00 <wazzniak> Wanna
33:18 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Tigger_
33:21 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> i mean tisk
33:26 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> make some more dancing videos
33:54 <wazzniak> I anna see more mad sins tism
34:00 <wazzniak> Wanna
34:00 <wazzniak> Spins
34:07 <wazzniak> Spins
37:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> chucky is a loser but he's a happy one
37:34 <INVESTEC_ASHES> chucky is a loser but he's a happy one
39:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is good -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F2l1J6gwHM
39:00 <progressive> [ Air Crash Investigation Mayday HD // What Really Happened To Flight MH370 ? - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
39:00 <Warren1984> it shows the missing links
39:00 <Warren1984> of modern aviation
39:36 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this is good -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F2l1J6gwHM
39:36 <progressive> [ Air Crash Investigation Mayday HD // What Really Happened To Flight MH370 ? - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
39:46 <Warren1984> it shows the missing links
39:55 <Warren1984> of modern aviation
40:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Warren1984 will you please sms chucky
40:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> tell him its Warren1984
40:09 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Warren1984 will you please sms chucky
40:28 <INVESTEC_ASHES> tell him its Warren1984
41:00 <Warren1984> chucky?
41:00 <Tigger_> with all the new evidence it seems likely that the captain and co-pilot were gay lovers, and made a suicide pact because the world does not accept their type of love
41:00 <Warren1984> I think the person fooled the system
41:00 <Warren1984> they thoroughly did their research and planned it well
41:07 <Warren1984> chucky?
41:10 <Tigger_> with all the new evidence it seems likely that the captain and co-pilot were gay lovers, and made a suicide pact because the world does not accept their type of love
41:30 <Warren1984> I think the person fooled the system
41:48 <Warren1984> they thoroughly did their research and planned it well
42:00 <Warren1984> the part on reunion island is just criminal evidence
42:00 <Warren1984> now hidden from the public
42:21 <Warren1984> the part on reunion island is just criminal evidence
42:32 <Warren1984> now hidden from the public
43:00 <Warren1984> I think it was a suicidal hijacked plane
43:00 <Warren1984> they knew precisely what to do
43:00 <Tigger_> a gay suicide
43:00 <Tigger_> they had furious gay sex as the plane was going down, and orgasmed upon impact
43:00 <Warren1984> not sure if it was the pilots
43:08 <Warren1984> I think it was a suicidal hijacked plane
43:17 <Warren1984> they knew precisely what to do
43:24 <Tigger_> a gay suicide
43:59 <Tigger_> they had furious gay sex as the plane was going down, and orgasmed upon impact
43:59 <Warren1984> not sure if it was the pilots
44:00 <wazzniak> HahahahahHa
44:47 <wazzniak> HahahahahHa
45:00 <wazzniak> Yeh it helped them climax like how some couples like public sex
45:22 <wazzniak> Yeh it helped them climax like how some couples like public sex
46:00 <Warren1984> the person knew the waypoints, risked being shot down by the militaries and was ditched into the Indian Ocean
47:00 <Warren1984> they also knew that the voice recorder only had the last 2 hours of voice recording
47:01 <Warren1984> the person knew the waypoints, risked being shot down by the militaries and was ditched into the Indian Ocean
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47:48 <Warren1984> they also knew that the voice recorder only had the last 2 hours of voice recording
48:00 <Warren1984> they knew Malaysia and many other Asian countries don't screen people properly
48:00 <Warren1984> maybe they are sending a message to those who may try it again
48:09 <Warren1984> they knew Malaysia and many other Asian countries don't screen people properly
48:41 <Warren1984> maybe they are sending a message to those who may try it again
54:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why didn't they put a 1,000,000 TB SSD on all the flight voice recorders and record it in 192 kbps .mp3 format
54:00 <Warren1984> they have that technology available
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54:23 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why didn't they put a 1,000,000 TB SSD on all the flight voice recorders and record it in 192 kbps .mp3 format
54:46 <Warren1984> they have that technology available
56:00 <Warren1984> they should make machines that scan people's brains to read their mind before boarding an aircraft
56:00 <Warren1984> for any malicious intent
56:24 <Warren1984> they should make machines that scan people's brains to read their mind before boarding an aircraft
56:42 <Warren1984> for any malicious intent
57:00 <Warren1984> they say there are 14 million stolen passports around the world
57:00 <Warren1984> wouldn't a 1,000,000 TB SSD help?
57:00 <Warren1984> If computers were much faster
57:00 <Warren1984> then they could detain illeagel people straight away
57:11 <Warren1984> they say there are 14 million stolen passports around the world
57:24 <Glenn> You are proposing the elimination of nominees to the "Mile High Club" too?
57:31 <Warren1984> wouldn't a 1,000,000 TB SSD help?
57:46 <Warren1984> If computers were much faster
57:59 <Warren1984> then they could detain illeagel people straight away
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02:00 <kokoleavia> wheres that lish PIG
02:14 <kokoleavia> wheres that lish PIG
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11:00 <ajnin> hello
11:00 <ajnin> another late dinner :(
11:00 <tisk> hey
11:00 <tisk> i havent cooked
11:00 <ajnin> I made salami today
11:00 <ajnin> a little late but thats OK
11:00 <tisk> ?
11:19 <ajnin> hello
11:25 <ajnin> another late dinner :(
11:26 <tisk> hey
11:31 <tisk> i havent cooked
11:41 <ajnin> I made salami today
11:53 <ajnin> a little late but thats OK
11:54 <tisk> ?
12:00 <tisk> i got someone wants sell whole keg
12:00 <tisk> of 15% wine
12:00 <ajnin> home made ?
12:00 <tisk> made from home grown grapes
12:00 <tisk> yes
12:00 <ajnin> nice
12:00 <tisk> thinks its red
12:00 <ajnin> if I drank I would ask how much.
12:08 <tisk> i got someone wants sell whole keg
12:17 <tisk> of 15% wine
12:25 <ajnin> home made ?
12:25 <tisk> made from home grown grapes
12:33 <tisk> yes
12:36 <ajnin> nice
12:38 <tisk> thinks its red
12:43 <ajnin> if I drank I would ask how much.
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31:00 <Lish> Losers
31:49 <Lish> Losers
32:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
32:00 <Lish> What's rofling?
32:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Lish thought meeting David Mendelsohn at st kilda would be a 'fun night'
32:27 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
32:48 <Lish> What's rofling?
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32:56 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Lish thought meeting David Mendelsohn at st kilda would be a 'fun night'
33:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllll @ INVESTEC_ASHES
33:00 <Lish> Oh this boring stuff again
33:16 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllll @ INVESTEC_ASHES
34:00 <Lish> Oh this boring stuff again
34:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> at least vaness told us everything that happned on the date
34:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish
34:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> http://prntscr.com/87m5e0
34:00 <progressive> [ Screenshot by Lightshot ] - prntscr.com
34:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Lish is trying to hide everything
34:16 <INVESTEC_ASHES> at least vaness told us everything that happned on the date
34:19 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish
34:21 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> http://prntscr.com/87m5e0
34:22 <progressive> [ Screenshot by Lightshot ] - prntscr.com
34:45 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Lish is trying to hide everything
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35:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> david mendelsohn couldnt afford the taxi from Star to the city
35:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> so vaness had to pay it
35:41 <INVESTEC_ASHES> david mendelsohn couldnt afford the taxi from Star to the city
35:46 <INVESTEC_ASHES> so vaness had to pay it
36:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> this time Lish couldnt afford it either so they had to walk
36:00 <Lish> Who made those bretty?
36:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> lolllllll
36:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> someone else on irc
36:00 <Tigger_> what do you call them?
36:00 <Lish> Call what
36:05 <INVESTEC_ASHES> this time Lish couldnt afford it either so they had to walk
36:18 <Lish> Who made those bretty?
36:18 <INVESTEC_ASHES> lolllllll
36:25 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> someone else on irc
36:43 <Tigger_> what do you call them?
36:50 <Lish> Call what
37:00 <Tigger_> those cake things brettingham posted the photo of
37:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> they are cupcakes lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
37:00 <Lish> Relax INVESTEC_ASHES, stop thinking about mentalson
37:49 <Tigger_> those cake things brettingham posted the photo of
38:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> they are cupcakes lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
38:00 <Lish> Cupcakes 
38:00 <Lish> What else would they be called
38:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Lish met up with David Mendelsohn off the internet, at St Kilda 
38:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> INVESTEC_ASHES they have a child together
38:00 <Lish> Shhh INVESTEC_ASHES, don't be jealous
38:03 <Lish> Relax INVESTEC_ASHES, stop thinking about mentalson
38:06 <Lish> Cupcakes
38:12 <Lish> What else would they be called
38:24 <INVESTEC_ASHES> Lish met up with David Mendelsohn off the internet, at St Kilda
38:37 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> INVESTEC_ASHES they have a child together
38:42 <Lish> Shhh INVESTEC_ASHES, don't be jealous
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39:00 <ajnin> FUCKKKKKKKKKK
39:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> at least vaness had the guts to admit everything that happened
39:00 <ajnin> i just rmeember steve and will were at my shopping center today
39:00 <Lish> Because she's a bit of a slut
39:00 <INVESTEC_ASHES> admit you had to walk home
39:00 <ajnin> i was going to go and do my shopping whe they were there
39:00 <Lish> Why would I walk home? 
39:06 <ajnin> FUCKKKKKKKKKK
39:10 <INVESTEC_ASHES> at least vaness had the guts to admit everything that happened
39:19 <ajnin> i just rmeember steve and will were at my shopping center today
39:21 <Lish> Because she's a bit of a slut
39:24 <INVESTEC_ASHES> admit you had to walk home
39:35 <ajnin> i was going to go and do my shopping whe they were there
39:36 <Lish> Why would I walk home?
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44:00 <Lish> This place is a bit mental tonight
44:00 <Lish> Tigger_: what do you call them
44:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> sunday is always the craziest day for irc
44:00 <Lish> Who made them and what's your opinion bretty?
44:00 <Tigger_> I just wondered if they had a special name, since they look different to most cupcakes
44:00 <Lish> Different how?
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44:10 <Lish> This place is a bit mental tonight
44:24 <Lish> Tigger_: what do you call them
44:27 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> sunday is always the craziest day for irc
44:49 <Lish> Who made them and what's your opinion bretty?
44:53 <Tigger_> I just wondered if they had a special name, since they look different to most cupcakes
45:00 <Tigger_> small
45:02 <Lish> Different how?
45:58 <Tigger_> small
47:00 <Lish> Yeah they look like packet mix 
47:19 <Lish> Yeah they look like packet mix
48:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> really
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49:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
49:00 <Tigger_> how long has it been since you've made cakes, lish?
49:03 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> really
49:05 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
49:19 <Tigger_> how long has it been since you've made cakes, lish?
51:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> <xxxxxx> 2 cups s/r flour 1 cup sugar, 4 eggs, 1/3 cup oil, 1 cup milk and 2 teaspoons vanilla essence.
51:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> denying packet mix
51:00 <Lish> 4 eggs is too many
51:00 <Lish> Ew oil 
51:09 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> <xxxxxx> 2 cups s/r flour 1 cup sugar, 4 eggs, 1/3 cup oil, 1 cup milk and 2 teaspoons vanilla essence.
51:18 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> denying packet mix
51:50 <Lish> 4 eggs is too many
51:56 <Lish> Ew oil
52:00 <Lish> No butter? 
52:00 <Lish> Wrong 
52:00 <Lish> I haven't made cakes for a while Tigger_,if I make them I eat them haha
52:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> oil over butter is disgusting
52:04 <Lish> No butter?
52:08 <Lish> Wrong
52:58 <Lish> I haven't made cakes for a while Tigger_,if I make them I eat them haha
53:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> oil over butter is disgusting
53:00 <Tigger_> I'm looking forwards to warm weather when I can make icecream again
53:55 <Tigger_> I'm looking forwards to warm weather when I can make icecream again
54:00 <Lish> Yes agree oil over butter is disgusting 
54:00 <Lish> They are very yellow for non packet 
54:36 <Lish> Yes agree oil over butter is disgusting
55:00 <Lish> I don't believe 
55:01 <Lish> They are very yellow for non packet
55:07 <Lish> I don't believe
57:00 <Lish> Anyway I got new headphones today so that's exciting
57:00 <Tigger_> ready mix you just add water or something?
57:00 <Tigger_> are they Dr Dre headphones?
57:41 <Lish> Anyway I got new headphones today so that's exciting
57:46 <Tigger_> ready mix you just add water or something?
57:52 <Tigger_> are they Dr Dre headphones?
58:00 <Lish> Yeah tigger you just add water and maybe milk I dunno, I don't use them
58:00 <Lish> Yes they are
58:00 <Tigger_> I knew you'd get Dr Dre
58:00 <Tigger_> he's not a real doctor you know
58:35 <Lish> Yeah tigger you just add water and maybe milk I dunno, I don't use them
58:37 <Lish> Yes they are
58:45 <Tigger_> I knew you'd get Dr Dre
58:53 <Tigger_> he's not a real doctor you know
00:00 <Lish> I already have beats 
00:00 <Lish> They just broke, I had them for ages like 4 years
00:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> nigger headphones
00:16 <Lish> I already have beats
00:26 <Lish> They just broke, I had them for ages like 4 years
00:37 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> nigger headphones
01:00 <Tigger_> yep, nigger designed, nigger tested, nigger approved headphones
01:00 <Lish> These actually are designed by David guetta or whatever he's called
01:00 <Lish> That weird old white dude that plays dance music
01:00 <Lish> http://www.amazon.com/Beats-Mixr-On-Ear-Headphone-Black/dp/B008EQ1ZQK
01:00 <progressive> [ Amazon.com: Beats Mixr On-Ear Headphone - Black: Electronics ] - www.amazon.com
01:06 <Tigger_> yep, nigger designed, nigger tested, nigger approved headphones
01:38 <Lish> These actually are designed by David guetta or whatever he's called
01:45 <Lish> That weird old white dude that plays dance music
02:00 <Lish> http://www.amazon.com/Beats-Mixr-On-Ear-Headphone-Black/dp/B008EQ1ZQK
02:02 <progressive> [ Amazon.com: Beats Mixr On-Ear Headphone - Black: Electronics ] - www.amazon.com
03:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> of course they are designed by david guetta, u couldnt let a nigger do it
03:00 <Lish> Hahaha 
03:25 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> of course they are designed by david guetta, u couldnt let a nigger do it
03:49 <Lish> Hahaha
04:00 <Tigger_> actually David Guetta is married to a niggeress, so that makes him sort of one too
04:45 <Tigger_> actually David Guetta is married to a niggeress, so that makes him sort of one too
05:00 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:David_et_Cathy_Guetta_NRJ_Music_Awards_2012.jpg
05:00 <progressive> KeyError: u'extract' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/modules/wikipedia.py", line 89, in mw_snippet)
05:00 <Lish> Hahaha
05:32 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:David_et_Cathy_Guetta_NRJ_Music_Awards_2012.jpg
05:33 <progressive> KeyError: u'extract' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/modules/wikipedia.py", line 89, in mw_snippet)
05:39 <Lish> Hahaha
06:00 <Lish> So many choices at jb hifi 
06:00 <Lish> So many huge chunky ones though, look really bad
06:21 <Lish> So many choices at jb hifi
06:34 <Lish> So many huge chunky ones though, look really bad
07:00 <Tigger_> people wear big chunky ones in public to show how serious they are, to make you think they might be producers
07:00 <Lish> I wanted sennheiser but they were too ugly 
07:00 <Lish> I wear these at my desk when I'm trying to focus 
07:00 <Lish> So I don't want anything huge 
07:16 <Tigger_> people wear big chunky ones in public to show how serious they are, to make you think they might be producers
07:27 <Lish> I wanted sennheiser but they were too ugly
07:38 <Lish> I wear these at my desk when I'm trying to focus
07:43 <Lish> So I don't want anything huge
08:00 <Tigger_> I have Sennheiser ear phones
08:00 <Tigger_> how do people get your attention?
08:16 <Tigger_> I have Sennheiser ear phones
08:48 <Tigger_> how do people get your attention?
09:00 <Lish> They walk up to my desk
09:00 <Lish> Or yell out my name 
09:00 <Lish> I don't have it up loud usually
09:00 <Lish> I like these ones because the headphone bit rotates so I don't have to have it on both ears 
09:14 <Lish> They walk up to my desk
09:18 <Lish> Or yell out my name
09:23 <Lish> I don't have it up loud usually
09:39 <Lish> I like these ones because the headphone bit rotates so I don't have to have it on both ears
10:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> show us a pic of these ear phones u wear at your desk
10:00 <Lish> My new ones or the old ones
10:45 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> show us a pic of these ear phones u wear at your desk
11:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> both
11:00 <Lish> Exhausting 
11:01 <Lish> My new ones or the old ones
11:25 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> both
11:32 <Lish> Exhausting
12:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/KDYG6gj
12:00 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
12:00 <Tigger_> you got the link right first time
12:00 <Lish> Uploaded it from iPad cause I already had the pic in my photo stream 
12:06 <Lish> http://imgur.com/KDYG6gj
12:06 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
12:31 <Tigger_> you got the link right first time
12:55 <Lish> Uploaded it from iPad cause I already had the pic in my photo stream
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14:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/4CBlKaC
14:00 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
14:08 <Lish> http://imgur.com/4CBlKaC
14:08 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
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15:00 <Tigger_> that purple looks dated
15:38 <Tigger_> that purple looks dated
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16:00 <Lish> Yeah it's old now
16:00 <Lish> The new black ones are nice 
16:00 <Lish> The purple were the base model, I moved up one model lol
16:23 <Lish> Yeah it's old now
16:48 <Lish> The new black ones are nice
16:57 <Lish> The purple were the base model, I moved up one model lol
18:00 <Lish> Nerdhacks is mental bretty
18:00 <ajnin> http://www.pccasegear.com/UserFiles/sennhe598jb.jpg
18:00 <ajnin> thats the mad headphone
18:00 <ajnin> all calss
18:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllll
18:00 <ajnin> class
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18:30 <Lish> Nerdhacks is mental bretty
18:43 <ajnin> http://www.pccasegear.com/UserFiles/sennhe598jb.jpg
18:57 <ajnin> thats the mad headphone
18:59 <ajnin> all calss
19:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllll
19:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Osskkaarr i got your back bro
19:00 <Lish> That'd get dirty ajnin
19:00 <Tigger_> I assume #nerdhacks is pretty much the same as the old #cats
19:01 <ajnin> class
19:08 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Osskkaarr i got your back bro
19:23 <Lish> That'd get dirty ajnin
19:45 <Tigger_> I assume #nerdhacks is pretty much the same as the old #cats
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20:00 <xm> worse
20:00 <Lish> Much worse
20:00 <Lish> They are going mental
20:00 <xm> plivent just made a pof for jen
20:00 <Lish> Posting all these pics of Jen 
20:00 <xm> it's quite cruel
20:00 <Lish> Pof?
20:00 <tisk> wtf
20:34 <xm> worse
20:40 <Lish> Much worse
20:43 <Lish> They are going mental
20:45 <xm> plivent just made a pof for jen
20:48 <Lish> Posting all these pics of Jen
20:51 <xm> it's quite cruel
20:53 <Lish> Pof?
20:57 <tisk> wtf
21:00 <tisk> wheres he live
21:00 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3207514/Retired-MP-Patrick-Secker-latest-exposed-grubby-list-government-Ashley-Madison-users-says-s-load-crap.html
21:00 <progressive> [ Ashley Madison users include retired Liberal MP Patrick Secker | Daily Mail Online ] - www.dailymail.co.uk
21:00 <Tigger_> pof?
21:00 <tisk> jen is nice person
21:00 <tisk> plenty of fish
21:00 <xm> plenty of fish, a dating site
21:00 <Tigger_> oh right
21:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> show tigger the profile
21:00 <tisk> what dumb fucks
21:00 <xm> might be a z-lineable offence
21:00 <tisk> set up fake accounts they actaully spend the time
21:00 <xm> if it's added to their naughty db
21:00 <tisk> to set up emails
21:00 <tisk> for those accounts
21:04 <tisk> wheres he live
21:05 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3207514/Retired-MP-Patrick-Secker-latest-exposed-grubby-list-government-Ashley-Madison-users-says-s-load-crap.html
21:06 <progressive> [ Ashley Madison users include retired Liberal MP Patrick Secker | Daily Mail Online ] - www.dailymail.co.uk
21:16 <Tigger_> pof?
21:18 <tisk> jen is nice person
21:22 <tisk> plenty of fish
21:29 <xm> plenty of fish, a dating site
21:30 Nick: Stringerr is now known as Manipulation
21:31 <Tigger_> oh right
21:36 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> show tigger the profile
21:38 <tisk> what dumb fucks
21:47 <xm> might be a z-lineable offence
21:51 <tisk> set up fake accounts they actaully spend the time
21:55 <xm> if it's added to their naughty db
21:57 <tisk> to set up emails
22:00 <tisk> how fucken stupid are they
22:00 <tisk> im gone
22:00 <Tigger_> so that's why Jen left
22:01 <tisk> for those accounts
22:08 <tisk> how fucken stupid are they
22:21 <tisk> im gone
22:50 <Tigger_> so that's why Jen left
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23:00 <Tigger_> link to the profile?  or do I need to be a member to see it?
23:00 <xm> ill email it
23:00 <Tigger_> ok
23:05 <Tigger_> link to the profile? or do I need to be a member to see it?
23:23 <xm> ill email it
23:35 <Tigger_> ok
24:00 <ajnin> " his father is Italian-American and his mother is Jewish. His stepmother was African-American"
24:00 <ajnin> that dude hit the jackpot
24:44 <ajnin> " his father is Italian-American and his mother is Jewish. His stepmother was African-American"
24:52 <ajnin> that dude hit the jackpot
25:00 <ajnin> first a jew mother... and he would be thinking cant get worse than this
25:00 <ajnin> haha
25:00 <ajnin> wrong
25:00 <ajnin> LOL
25:00 <ajnin> then again.....
25:00 <ajnin> anyway he ended up a millionair :(
25:00 <ajnin> but good on him
25:10 <ajnin> first a jew mother... and he would be thinking cant get worse than this
25:13 <ajnin> haha
25:14 <ajnin> wrong
25:15 <ajnin> LOL
25:25 <ajnin> then again.....
25:26 <ajnin> haha
25:43 <ajnin> anyway he ended up a millionair :(
25:47 <ajnin> but good on him
26:00 <xm> he's got some good songs but he prefers to waste his talent for $$$
26:00 <Lish> I feel bad for her
26:00 <xm> yeah, it's too far
26:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> you email him a url?
26:08 <xm> he's got some good songs but he prefers to waste his talent for $$$
26:11 Nick: Wazza is now known as Warren1984
26:39 <Lish> I feel bad for her
26:49 <xm> yeah, it's too far
26:52 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> you email him a url?
27:00 <xm> Mx_Brettingham_Trump, austnet has certain URLs banned. you could trigger something. it's probably not on the ban list now but it woudl be if they knew of it
27:00 <xm> just playin' it saf3
27:00 <Tigger_> it's plivent's usual style
27:29 <xm> Mx_Brettingham_Trump, austnet has certain URLs banned. you could trigger something. it's probably not on the ban list now but it woudl be if they knew of it
27:40 <xm> just playin' it saf3
27:45 <Tigger_> it's plivent's usual style
28:00 <xm> i think the austnet ED site is a trigger URL
28:00 <Lish> Screen shot it and imgur the url
28:00 <ajnin> lish did jen quit IRC ?
28:00 <Osskkaarr> TheMayo made it and plivent spams it.
28:00 <Tigger_> let down by being witless
28:00 <Lish> I dunno
28:00 <Osskkaarr> She's not coming back to IRC.
28:00 <xm> yeah it wasnt funny
28:00 <ajnin> well that sucks
28:00 <ajnin> what happened
28:05 <xm> i think the austnet ED site is a trigger URL
28:07 <Lish> Screen shot it and imgur the url
28:08 <ajnin> lish did jen quit IRC ?
28:08 <Osskkaarr> TheMayo made it and plivent spams it.
28:08 <Tigger_> let down by being witless
28:19 <Lish> I dunno
28:38 <Osskkaarr> She's not coming back to IRC.
28:51 <xm> yeah it wasnt funny
28:57 <ajnin> well that sucks
28:59 <ajnin> what happened
29:00 <ajnin> good on her for quitting IRC... I respect that :)
29:00 <ajnin> but it sucks cause she was good to talk shit with
29:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> tell her to come back, i wanna talk to her about richmond
29:00 <xm> i saw an asian afl player today
29:00 <xm> was weird
29:00 <xm> wce vs wb
29:00 <ajnin> xm the footscrzy one ?
29:00 <xm> nah, wb
29:00 <xm> but yeah i think there is another one too
29:13 <ajnin> good on her for quitting IRC... I respect that :)
29:24 <ajnin> but it sucks cause she was good to talk shit with
29:30 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> tell her to come back, i wanna talk to her about richmond
29:40 <xm> i saw an asian afl player today
29:41 <xm> was weird
29:47 <xm> wce vs wb
29:52 <ajnin> xm the footscrzy one ?
29:56 <xm> nah, wb
30:00 <ajnin> yea.. the bullies have one
30:00 <ajnin> he is good
30:00 <ajnin> he has the hunger
30:00 <xm> for rice
30:00 <ajnin> haha
30:00 <xm> HahehaHEHeheh
30:00 <ajnin> old school racist jokes
30:00 <xm> yeah im fairly immune to it all
30:00 <ajnin> waht that shit where you cant leave the house ?
30:02 <xm> but yeah i think there is another one too
30:09 <ajnin> yea.. the bullies have one
30:10 <ajnin> he is good
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30:16 <ajnin> he has the hunger
30:31 <xm> for rice
30:35 <ajnin> haha
30:35 <xm> HahehaHEHeheh
30:47 <ajnin> old school racist jokes
30:49 <ajnin> haha
30:57 <xm> yeah im fairly immune to it all
31:00 <xm> agoraphobia?
31:00 <ajnin> yea
31:00 <ajnin> my greataunty had it
31:00 <xm> i hate having to leave too 
31:00 <ajnin> anyways I used to visit her lots
31:00 <ajnin> and she never saw an asian person I dont think
31:00 <Warren1984> `voice
31:00 <xm> oh she had it from a young age?
31:00 <baz> when did Warren1984 become an op?
31:00 <ajnin> and she really thought they were "yellow" and american indians were "red"
31:03 <ajnin> waht that shit where you cant leave the house ?
31:15 <xm> agoraphobia?
31:16 <ajnin> yea
31:23 <ajnin> my greataunty had it
31:31 <xm> i hate having to leave too
31:35 <ajnin> anyways I used to visit her lots
31:47 <ajnin> and she never saw an asian person I dont think
31:47 <Warren1984> `voice
31:48 Mode: (by ChanOP) +v Warren1984
32:00 <xm> oh she had it from a young age?
32:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish tell jennifer to come back, u have known her for over 10 years
32:00 <ajnin> but I dont know if it was the old age
32:00 <xm> heh she probably saw all the propaganda posters from ww 2
32:00 <ajnin> xm she went to family functions
32:00 <ajnin> but she was always old from when I was little so I dont really know
32:00 <xm> i remember watching an episode of little house on the prairie where a kid shook hands with a black man, then looked at his hands to see if it'd be smudged black
32:00 <ajnin> she would go out on the balcony and shit
32:02 <baz> when did Warren1984 become an op?
32:02 <ajnin> and she really thought they were "yellow" and american indians were "red"
32:10 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> Lish tell jennifer to come back, u have known her for over 10 years
32:13 <ajnin> but I dont know if it was the old age
32:23 <xm> heh she probably saw all the propaganda posters from ww 2
32:42 <ajnin> xm she went to family functions
32:53 <ajnin> but she was always old from when I was little so I dont really know
32:56 <xm> i remember watching an episode of little house on the prairie where a kid shook hands with a black man, then looked at his hands to see if it'd be smudged black
32:59 <ajnin> she would go out on the balcony and shit
33:00 <xm> family functions are still a bit too much for me
33:00 <xm> i was ok with all this as a kid
33:00 <Lish> I don't have jens details 
33:00 <xm> but as i got older i didnt like it anymore
33:00 <Lish> How could I get her back on irc 
33:00 <Lish> Xm I got new beats today 
33:00 <xm> now you got beats to go with your pill
33:00 <Tigger_> <baz> when did Warren1984 become an op?  <- 25 ops
33:00 <xm> actually... this is all owned by apple now
33:00 <xm> LOL
33:00 <ajnin> xm so your agoraphobic ?
33:00 <xm> lish's dream is complete
33:09 <xm> family functions are still a bit too much for me
33:14 <xm> i was ok with all this as a kid
33:17 <Lish> I don't have jens details
33:20 <xm> but as i got older i didnt like it anymore
33:21 <Lish> How could I get her back on irc
33:25 <Lish> Xm I got new beats today
33:33 <xm> now you got beats to go with your pill
33:46 <Tigger_> <baz> when did Warren1984 become an op? <- 25 ops
33:50 <xm> actually... this is all owned by apple now
33:51 <xm> LOL
33:55 <ajnin> xm so your agoraphobic ?
33:55 <xm> lish's dream is complete
34:00 <xm> an apple digital solution for everything
34:00 <Lish> I had beats already
34:00 <xm> oh?
34:00 <xm> why another
34:00 <Lish> I had them for 4 years but they broke
34:00 <Tigger_> <ajnin> and she really thought they were "yellow" and american indians were "red"  <- when I was a kid I thought American Indians were literally red too, and wondered if they originally came from Mars
34:00 <Lish> And were old 
34:00 <Lish> http://au.beatsbydre.com/headphones/mixr/beats-mixr.html
34:00 <xm> ajnin, not that badly. it's the people really
34:00 <progressive> [ DJ Headphones : Beats Mixr Headphones | Beats by Dre ] - au.beatsbydre.com
34:00 <ajnin> xm I cant go out on weekends to shopping centers
34:00 <ajnin> if can if i MUST.. but ill be there when they open
34:01 Nick: Manipulation is now known as Stringer
34:05 <xm> an apple digital solution for everything
34:05 <Lish> I had beats already
34:07 <xm> oh?
34:13 <xm> why another
34:17 <Lish> I had them for 4 years but they broke
34:19 <Tigger_> <ajnin> and she really thought they were "yellow" and american indians were "red" <- when I was a kid I thought American Indians were literally red too, and wondered if they originally came from Mars
34:24 <Lish> And were old
34:27 <Lish> http://au.beatsbydre.com/headphones/mixr/beats-mixr.html
34:27 <xm> ajnin, not that badly. it's the people really
34:28 <progressive> [ DJ Headphones : Beats Mixr Headphones | Beats by Dre ] - au.beatsbydre.com
34:51 <ajnin> xm I cant go out on weekends to shopping centers
35:00 <xm> crowds?
35:00 <Tigger_> it's too crazy on weekends, I hate shops anyway
35:00 <Lish> I had to go to chadstone today omg
35:00 <Lish> Kill me
35:00 <ajnin> xm yes and no...
35:00 <Lish> But we had dumplings so not too bad
35:00 <ajnin> shopping crowds
35:00 <xm> i dont understand it how people prefer to go to restaurants that look full -- because it signals it's popular or good or whatever
35:00 <ajnin> cause I am at home in a metallica mosh pit...
35:00 <Tigger_> and people are just going to the foodcourts
35:00 <xm> i remember going to a thai restaurant at noon once and we were the only people (literally)
35:00 <xm> other than staff
35:00 <xm> it was fantastic
35:00 <ajnin> xm haha I am the same.. but also I dont go to empty ones
35:00 <ajnin> cause i feel weird... like I am the only dude in there
35:02 <ajnin> if can if i MUST.. but ill be there when they open
35:05 <xm> crowds?
35:06 <Tigger_> it's too crazy on weekends, I hate shops anyway
35:09 <Lish> I had to go to chadstone today omg
35:10 <Lish> Kill me
35:13 <ajnin> xm yes and no...
35:16 <Lish> But we had dumplings so not too bad
35:18 <ajnin> shopping crowds
35:27 <xm> i dont understand it how people prefer to go to restaurants that look full -- because it signals it's popular or good or whatever
35:30 <ajnin> cause I am at home in a metallica mosh pit...
35:34 <Tigger_> and people are just going to the foodcourts
35:39 <xm> i remember going to a thai restaurant at noon once and we were the only people (literally)
35:41 <xm> other than staff
35:43 <xm> it was fantastic
35:53 <ajnin> xm haha I am the same.. but also I dont go to empty ones
36:00 <xm> coz they might have big fines from the health dept? :D
36:00 <xm> yeah that is a good point
36:00 <ajnin> and they are watching.. even though I know they are not
36:00 <ajnin> i like to go to places I know are busy in the day
36:00 <ajnin> but quite at like 11pm
36:00 <ajnin> I eat lots of kebabs
36:00 <ajnin> lol
36:00 <xm> well in small shops i hate the feeling of having the staff look at you when you walk in
36:00 <xm> i prefer to do my own thing
36:00 <xm> i dont want to say hi or anything
36:00 <xm> hard to explain
36:03 <ajnin> cause i feel weird... like I am the only dude in there
36:07 <xm> coz they might have big fines from the health dept? :D
36:12 <xm> yeah that is a good point
36:13 <ajnin> and they are watching.. even though I know they are not
36:33 <ajnin> i like to go to places I know are busy in the day
36:38 <ajnin> but quite at like 11pm
36:43 <ajnin> I eat lots of kebabs
36:44 <ajnin> lol
36:48 <xm> well in small shops i hate the feeling of having the staff look at you when you walk in
36:54 <xm> i prefer to do my own thing
36:59 <xm> i dont want to say hi or anything
37:00 <xm> ive had this problem since i was 8
37:00 <xm> started in year 4
37:00 <baz> xm, but don't you feel too loud if when you're the only people there?
37:00 <baz> like the sound you make echo off the walls?
37:00 <xm> like for example i'd be walking and in the distance there's the teacher you know
37:00 <xm> and you go
37:00 <xm> "hmm have to say hi. have to give eye contact'
37:00 <Tigger_> and snipers in the building across the road can easily get a head shot if you're the only one, sitting alone
37:01 <xm> hard to explain
37:06 <xm> ive had this problem since i was 8
37:09 <xm> started in year 4
37:16 <baz> xm, but don't you feel too loud if when you're the only people there?
37:22 <baz> like the sound you make echo off the walls?
37:24 <xm> like for example i'd be walking and in the distance there's the teacher you know
37:27 <xm> and you go
37:34 <xm> "hmm have to say hi. have to give eye contact'
37:47 <Tigger_> and snipers in the building across the road can easily get a head shot if you're the only one, sitting alone
38:00 <xm> loll
38:00 <baz> why do you call it a problem xm?
38:00 <xm> because it's not about how it affects other people, it's the anxiety anticipation
38:00 <xm> it's rather silly but im getting over it slowly
38:05 <xm> loll
38:10 <baz> why do you call it a problem xm?
38:31 <xm> because it's not about how it affects other people, it's the anxiety anticipation
38:39 <xm> it's rather silly but im getting over it slowly
39:00 <baz> I kind of have a weird social thing too... but not always, and it differs situation to situation, or mood to mood etc
39:00 <xm> my main problem now is probably eye contact when eating out
39:00 <baz> but my test result said I was an ENFP.
39:00 <baz> so I'm meant to be an extrovert, not an introvert.
39:00 <xm> so i just end up looking down a lot
39:22 <baz> I kind of have a weird social thing too... but not always, and it differs situation to situation, or mood to mood etc
39:30 <xm> my main problem now is probably eye contact when eating out
39:32 <baz> but my test result said I was an ENFP.
39:40 <baz> so I'm meant to be an extrovert, not an introvert.
39:50 <xm> so i just end up looking down a lot
40:00 <baz> aw, if you're good looking that could be endearing
40:00 <baz> an attractive quality
40:00 <xm> lmao what
40:00 <baz> lol
40:00 <xm> it just makes people think you're weird
40:00 <xm> and there's this feedback loop
40:05 <baz> aw, if you're good looking that could be endearing
40:09 <baz> an attractive quality
40:26 <xm> lmao what
40:33 <baz> lol
40:39 <xm> it just makes people think you're weird
40:49 <xm> and there's this feedback loop
41:00 <xm> because you notice they notice you noticed they noticed
41:00 <xm> anyhow sometimes im normal even with strangers
41:00 <Tigger_> I'm generally fine as long as there's some business to be conducted, to create a framework for the conversation, I'll get confused if they start asking me off script questions like what I'm doing on the weekend
41:00 <xm> it's very unpredictable
41:00 <ajnin> well if anyone knows jen tell her to come back to IRC
41:00 <ajnin> and with that I am going to bed
41:00 <xm> i always say stuff like i worked on a song
41:00 <ajnin> good night
41:00 <baz> confused how Tigger_?
41:00 <Tigger_> night ajnin 
41:00 <ajnin> oh
41:00 <ajnin> 1 thing
41:00 <xm> night adj
41:00 <xm> ajnin
41:07 <xm> because you notice they notice you noticed they noticed
41:17 <xm> anyhow sometimes im normal even with strangers
41:19 <Tigger_> I'm generally fine as long as there's some business to be conducted, to create a framework for the conversation, I'll get confused if they start asking me off script questions like what I'm doing on the weekend
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41:20 <xm> it's very unpredictable
41:32 <ajnin> well if anyone knows jen tell her to come back to IRC
41:38 <ajnin> and with that I am going to bed
41:39 <xm> i always say stuff like i worked on a song
41:40 <ajnin> good night
41:41 <baz> confused how Tigger_?
41:44 <Tigger_> night ajnin
41:47 <ajnin> oh
41:50 <ajnin> 1 thing
41:53 <xm> night adj
41:56 <xm> ajnin
42:00 <xm> lol ajnin remember shaking hands in catholic mass?
42:00 <xm> that was pretty bad too
42:00 <Tigger_> baz, how am I to answer their bizarre questions, "I wrestled a crocodile last weekend, but this weekend I'll go parachuting"
42:00 <ajnin> does anything have that Flattr thing ?
42:00 <Tigger_> flattr is a rip off
42:00 <ajnin> xm yea ? i was at mass today
42:31 <xm> lol ajnin remember shaking hands in catholic mass?
42:39 <xm> that was pretty bad too
42:41 <Tigger_> baz, how am I to answer their bizarre questions, "I wrestled a crocodile last weekend, but this weekend I'll go parachuting"
42:48 <ajnin> does anything have that Flattr thing ?
42:58 <Tigger_> flattr is a rip off
43:00 <ajnin> they still do it :p
43:00 <baz> I call that surface level talk Tigger_, and I don't like it either
43:00 <xm> someone asked me on friday what i'd be doing on the weekend. so i nerded it out by saying ill be rearranging my music collection on my new 4TB
43:00 <Tigger_> yes, better not to answer in those circumstances
43:00 <RobertIngham> i know jen
43:00 <ajnin> xm nothing worse that that
43:00 <RobertIngham> she's a good mate of mine
43:00 <baz> one thing I find especially uncomfortable is seeing people you used to know, or saw for a period of time, out and about
43:00 <ajnin> RobertIngham tell her to come back one day
43:01 <ajnin> xm yea ? i was at mass today
43:06 <ajnin> they still do it :p
43:06 <baz> I call that surface level talk Tigger_, and I don't like it either
43:15 <xm> someone asked me on friday what i'd be doing on the weekend. so i nerded it out by saying ill be rearranging my music collection on my new 4TB
43:39 <Tigger_> yes, better not to answer in those circumstances
43:47 <RobertIngham> i know jen
43:47 <ajnin> xm nothing worse that that
43:50 <RobertIngham> she's a good mate of mine
43:54 <baz> one thing I find especially uncomfortable is seeing people you used to know, or saw for a period of time, out and about
44:00 <baz> if I see them first I always turn around or walk in another direction
44:00 <RobertIngham> ajnin she wont
44:00 <doctor> I just say probably nothing, then they try to pry some more information but to no avail
44:00 <RobertIngham> she said she wont come back
44:00 <RobertIngham> because of Osskkaarr
44:00 <ajnin> xm is there an app that will rename Mp3's without id tags ?
44:00 <xm> when i was younger and quite paranoid (like literally) i would read books on the bus all the time to avoid contact with everyone
44:00 <RobertIngham> of course there is ajnin
44:00 <xm> i think Ethanol mentioned it before
44:00 <ajnin> RobertIngham oh sorry... i did not finish
44:00 <ajnin> xm is there an app that will rename Mp3's without id tags and without a filename
44:02 <ajnin> RobertIngham tell her to come back one day
44:05 <baz> if I see them first I always turn around or walk in another direction
44:11 <RobertIngham> ajnin she wont
44:13 <doctor> I just say probably nothing, then they try to pry some more information but to no avail
44:17 <RobertIngham> she said she wont come back
44:19 <RobertIngham> because of Osskkaarr
44:21 <ajnin> xm is there an app that will rename Mp3's without id tags ?
44:32 <xm> when i was younger and quite paranoid (like literally) i would read books on the bus all the time to avoid contact with everyone
44:34 <RobertIngham> of course there is ajnin
44:55 <xm> i think Ethanol mentioned it before
44:56 <ajnin> RobertIngham oh sorry... i did not finish
45:00 <RobertIngham> yes there is
45:00 <baz> my work colleagues know not to ask me to lunch because everybody knows I like spending my breaks reading
45:00 <RobertIngham> its called windows
45:00 <ajnin> liek 1.mp3 = metallica - mater of puppets - battery.mp3
45:00 <baz> lol
45:00 <ajnin> automatticly
45:00 <xm> the one he mentioned uses a public database with 'signatures' of popular songs. im not sure how extensive the database is
45:00 <xm> stuff like mentallica would probably be in it
45:00 <xm> metallica*
45:00 <doctor> yeah i'd prefer to just spend time by myself then to be with others on break
45:00 <ajnin> I missed the one he mentioned
45:00 <ajnin> what was it
45:04 <ajnin> xm is there an app that will rename Mp3's without id tags and without a filename
45:09 <RobertIngham> yes there is
45:15 <baz> my work colleagues know not to ask me to lunch because everybody knows I like spending my breaks reading
45:18 <ajnin> liek 1.mp3 = metallica - mater of puppets - battery.mp3
45:18 <RobertIngham> its called windows
45:19 <baz> lol
45:31 <ajnin> automatticly
45:36 <xm> the one he mentioned uses a public database with 'signatures' of popular songs. im not sure how extensive the database is
45:45 <xm> stuff like mentallica would probably be in it
45:49 <xm> metallica*
45:56 <doctor> yeah i'd prefer to just spend time by myself then to be with others on break
45:59 <ajnin> I missed the one he mentioned
46:00 <xm> i cant remember it but i can try to find it now
46:00 <ajnin> would be handy for me
46:00 <ajnin> all my shit is fucked :(
46:00 <baz> doctor, I just can't chat about nothing... or I'm not good at coming up with things to talk about
46:02 <ajnin> what was it
46:10 <xm> i cant remember it but i can try to find it now
46:20 <ajnin> would be handy for me
46:26 <ajnin> all my shit is fucked :(
46:42 <baz> doctor, I just can't chat about nothing... or I'm not good at coming up with things to talk about
47:00 <baz> and everyday silly conversation can't be helped
47:00 <baz> I have to do it at work all the time, and I often find myself, right after a session of chit chat, thinking well that was a whole bunch of nothingness
47:00 <Tigger_> I'd be fine if a random person just came up to me on the street and said "Dostoyevsky, what do you think?"
47:00 <xm> https://musicbrainz.org
47:00 <progressive> [ MusicBrainz - The Open Music Encyclopedia ] - musicbrainz.org
47:00 <xm> i think that mightve been it
47:00 <baz> haha Tigger_
47:04 <baz> and everyday silly conversation can't be helped
47:36 <baz> I have to do it at work all the time, and I often find myself, right after a session of chit chat, thinking well that was a whole bunch of nothingness
47:44 <Tigger_> I'd be fine if a random person just came up to me on the street and said "Dostoyevsky, what do you think?"
47:48 <xm> https://musicbrainz.org
47:49 <progressive> [ MusicBrainz - The Open Music Encyclopedia ] - musicbrainz.org
47:58 <xm> i think that mightve been it
48:00 <baz> I can talk books all day long.
48:00 <xm> there was a kid doing work experience into progressive music and production. we pretty much spoke non-stop
48:00 <Tigger_> but I'm confused by their inane, nothing conversation topics
48:02 <baz> haha Tigger_
48:15 <baz> I can talk books all day long.
48:23 <xm> there was a kid doing work experience into progressive music and production. we pretty much spoke non-stop
48:36 <Tigger_> but I'm confused by their inane, nothing conversation topics
49:00 <doctor> There's probably people at your work who'd share similar interest as you, they would just be more difficult to find as they would generally not be all that open about their solitary interests
49:00 <xm> https://picard.musicbrainz.org
49:00 <progressive> [ MusicBrainz Picard ] - picard.musicbrainz.org
49:00 <xm> Picard uses AcoustID audio fingerprints, allowing files to be identified by the actual music, even if they have no metadata.
49:00 <baz> there's this guy at my work, and he's cool and we get along well
49:00 <RobertIngham> picard is shit
49:00 <baz> he's one person who doesn't feel like he has to fill a silence with sound aka talk
49:00 <RobertIngham> so is music brainz
49:12 <doctor> There's probably people at your work who'd share similar interest as you, they would just be more difficult to find as they would generally not be all that open about their solitary interests
49:12 <xm> https://picard.musicbrainz.org
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49:14 <progressive> [ MusicBrainz Picard ] - picard.musicbrainz.org
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49:23 <xm> Picard uses AcoustID audio fingerprints, allowing files to be identified by the actual music, even if they have no metadata.
49:37 <baz> there's this guy at my work, and he's cool and we get along well
49:47 <RobertIngham> picard is shit
49:48 <baz> he's one person who doesn't feel like he has to fill a silence with sound aka talk
49:50 <RobertIngham> so is music brainz
50:00 <baz> we can walk up to each other, stand around quietly and enjoy each other's company, and then eventually something interesting does come up to talk about
50:00 <baz> if you're patient enough, it'll happen
50:00 <Tigger_> I tried Picard, but it was terrible, couldn't recognise anything I had it scan
50:00 <xm> was that the one Ethanol mentioned?
50:00 <xm> or was there another
50:00 <Tigger_> yes, ages ago
50:00 <doctor> I don't mind idle conversation just as long as I don't need to know anything, such as sport
50:15 <baz> we can walk up to each other, stand around quietly and enjoy each other's company, and then eventually something interesting does come up to talk about
50:23 <baz> if you're patient enough, it'll happen
50:24 <Tigger_> I tried Picard, but it was terrible, couldn't recognise anything I had it scan
50:38 <xm> was that the one Ethanol mentioned?
50:41 <xm> or was there another
50:43 <Tigger_> yes, ages ago
50:54 <doctor> I don't mind idle conversation just as long as I don't need to know anything, such as sport
51:00 <doctor> I tend to be pretty approachable so people talk to me about stuff and I don't usually mind
51:00 <baz> I mostly dislike idle conversation.
51:00 <Tigger_> I'm very confused about sport, and worried I'll say something like "Yeah Don Bradman did well this weekend"
51:00 <baz> yeah I'm very well liked
51:00 <baz> everybody loves me at work
51:00 <Tigger_> what skills do you employ to be loved?
51:18 <doctor> I tend to be pretty approachable so people talk to me about stuff and I don't usually mind
51:18 <baz> I mostly dislike idle conversation.
51:28 <Tigger_> I'm very confused about sport, and worried I'll say something like "Yeah Don Bradman did well this weekend"
51:36 <baz> yeah I'm very well liked
51:40 <baz> everybody loves me at work
51:49 <Tigger_> what skills do you employ to be loved?
52:00 <baz> it's very clear with me that I don't wish anybody ill will or harm
52:00 <xm> Tigger_, until they go, "crikey mate! he died 15 years go aye!"
52:00 <baz> something that's not a common quality in people
52:00 <Tigger_> how do you impart the idea that you don't wish anybody harm?
52:00 <baz> I don't know exactly
52:00 <baz> in my demeanour, the way I speak and view things, my body language
52:06 <baz> it's very clear with me that I don't wish anybody ill will or harm
52:09 <xm> Tigger_, until they go, "crikey mate! he died 15 years go aye!"
52:14 <baz> something that's not a common quality in people
52:30 <Tigger_> how do you impart the idea that you don't wish anybody harm?
52:44 <baz> I don't know exactly
53:00 <doctor> i thought it was just common decency, plus being indifferent towards most things there's no need to wish any ill harm on anything/one
53:00 <baz> who knows
53:00 <baz> but people pick up on my niceness
53:02 <baz> in my demeanour, the way I speak and view things, my body language
53:05 <doctor> i thought it was just common decency, plus being indifferent towards most things there's no need to wish any ill harm on anything/one
53:05 <baz> who knows
53:11 <baz> but people pick up on my niceness
54:00 <baz> I seem to possess a talent for a panoramic view of situations
54:00 <baz> and work colleagues and friends admire it about me
54:00 <baz> my opinion matters highly
54:00 <doctor> people know when they're being judged, so if you're approachable you don't tend to give off the aura that you're judgemental
54:27 <baz> I seem to possess a talent for a panoramic view of situations
54:36 <baz> and work colleagues and friends admire it about me
54:44 <baz> my opinion matters highly
54:48 <doctor> people know when they're being judged, so if you're approachable you don't tend to give off the aura that you're judgemental
55:00 <baz> yeah
55:00 <doctor> Heh, I get asked for my opinion but I'm not very convinced on my own, so I'd likely shrug
55:00 <baz> and I'm not sickly sweet either, I don't mind telling people when I think they're wrong
55:27 <baz> yeah
55:47 <doctor> Heh, I get asked for my opinion but I'm not very convinced on my own, so I'd likely shrug
55:54 <baz> and I'm not sickly sweet either, I don't mind telling people when I think they're wrong
56:00 <baz> but somehow when I oppose people they don't feel threatened, they know it's not coming from a place of attack
56:00 <ajnin> thanks
56:10 <baz> but somehow when I oppose people they don't feel threatened, they know it's not coming from a place of attack
56:13 <ajnin> thanks
57:00 <doctor> yeah, you do seem quite emotionally mature
57:00 <ajnin> xm ILL TEST BOTH THANKS
57:00 <ajnin> FUCKING caps
57:00 <ajnin> sorry
57:00 <xm> i wonder how many songs are on shazam's db
57:04 <doctor> yeah, you do seem quite emotionally mature
57:15 <ajnin> xm ILL TEST BOTH THANKS
57:17 <ajnin> FUCKING caps
57:19 <ajnin> sorry
58:00 <baz> I matured pretty quickly growing up, doctor
58:00 <baz> it's mostly thanks to good parents, and books
58:01 <xm> i wonder how many songs are on shazam's db
58:16 <baz> I matured pretty quickly growing up, doctor
58:56 <baz> it's mostly thanks to good parents, and books
59:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> doctor where have you hidden varna?
59:00 <xm> im still the same age i was as soon as i got my computer
59:10 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> doctor where have you hidden varna?
00:00 <xm> about 10
00:00 <Tigger_> I have no idea how to transmit a particular perception to people
00:00 <xm> i havent matured since
00:00 <baz> read the works of Tolstoy and Alice Munro and it will immediately make you a better person
00:04 <xm> im still the same age i was as soon as i got my computer
00:06 <xm> about 10
00:08 <Tigger_> I have no idea how to transmit a particular perception to people
00:10 <xm> i havent matured since
00:27 <baz> read the works of Tolstoy and Alice Munro and it will immediately make you a better person
01:00 <baz> I bet that's not true xm
01:00 <RobertIngham> [11:20] <Osskkaarr> [20/06/2015 18:24:05] (anotherirc3r): you're too nice to me. I didn't do it for that feeling. I wanted to be sexually abused because I deserve it and I hate myself
01:00 <Lish> ?
01:00 <Lish> Mental 
01:00 <RobertIngham> yep
01:38 <baz> I bet that's not true xm
01:40 <RobertIngham> [11:20] <Osskkaarr> [20/06/2015 18:24:05] (anotherirc3r): you're too nice to me. I didn't do it for that feeling. I wanted to be sexually abused because I deserve it and I hate myself
01:53 <Lish> ?
01:56 <Lish> Mental
02:00 <RobertIngham> thats the type of females we keep around here
02:00 <Tigger_> I've never been a believer in the idea that great books and art make people better
02:00 <RobertIngham> mental patients
02:00 <Lish> That's like the third person I've seen pasting things like that, that Jen had said 
02:00 <Lish> She's a nice girl 
02:00 <Lish> Just lost 
02:00 <xm> baz, yeah it was an exaggeration. but i have done most of my maturing in the last 5-10 or so years
02:00 <baz> Tigger_, I immediately started questioning that after I typed it out...
02:02 <RobertIngham> yep
02:08 <RobertIngham> thats the type of females we keep around here
02:09 <Tigger_> I've never been a believer in the idea that great books and art make people better
02:11 <RobertIngham> mental patients
02:13 <Lish> That's like the third person I've seen pasting things like that, that Jen had said
02:31 <Lish> She's a nice girl
02:33 <Lish> Just lost
02:53 <xm> baz, yeah it was an exaggeration. but i have done most of my maturing in the last 5-10 or so years
02:55 <baz> Tigger_, I immediately started questioning that after I typed it out...
03:00 <Lish> What do you mean make them better
03:00 <RobertIngham> she isnt nice
03:00 <RobertIngham> and she isnt lost
03:00 <RobertIngham> this is what females do
03:00 <RobertIngham> and are into
03:00 <baz> but it can if you allow it to
03:00 <Tigger_> hang around a scene of minor and failed artists, and you quickly lose hope for the world
03:13 <Lish> What do you mean make them better
03:13 <RobertIngham> she isnt nice
03:15 <RobertIngham> and she isnt lost
03:18 <RobertIngham> this is what females do
03:20 <RobertIngham> and are into
03:32 <baz> but it can if you allow it to
03:50 <Tigger_> hang around a scene of minor and failed artists, and you quickly lose hope for the world
04:00 <xm> what about people that create art?
04:00 <Tigger_> Picasso was a bit of a monster in his personal life
04:00 <RobertIngham> Tigger_ are you an artist?
04:00 <Tigger_> RobertIngham, no
04:00 <baz> I almost bought a Picasso coffee table book today
04:09 <xm> what about people that create art?
04:38 <Tigger_> Picasso was a bit of a monster in his personal life
04:41 <RobertIngham> Tigger_ are you an artist?
04:46 <Tigger_> RobertIngham, no
04:59 <baz> I almost bought a Picasso coffee table book today
05:00 <baz> I bought some fiction instead
05:00 <xm> i was reading last night how people like to use ernst hemmingway as a 'role model atheist'
05:00 <baz> oh?
05:00 <xm> but that kids today dont know he was a chronic alcoholic and obviously killed himself
05:13 <baz> I bought some fiction instead
05:14 <xm> i was reading last night how people like to use ernst hemmingway as a 'role model atheist'
05:27 <baz> oh?
05:35 <xm> but that kids today dont know he was a chronic alcoholic and obviously killed himself
06:00 <Tigger_> at least Hemingway liked cats
06:00 <baz> I don't think Hemingway was a monster.
06:00 <xm> cats can be cheeky though. perhaps the cat made it look like a suicide
06:32 <Tigger_> at least Hemingway liked cats
06:55 <baz> I don't think Hemingway was a monster.
06:59 <xm> cats can be cheeky though. perhaps the cat made it look like a suicide
07:00 <Lish> I'm female and not into those things  RobertIngham
07:00 <Lish> She's def lost and needs a bit of help from reading the pastebins
07:11 <Lish> I'm female and not into those things RobertIngham
07:24 <Lish> She's def lost and needs a bit of help from reading the pastebins
08:00 <baz> but yeah I'm totally interested in great artists who were shitty people
08:00 <xm> i would say if you're an alcoholic you're pretty much the same as a suicidal person anyway
08:22 <baz> but yeah I'm totally interested in great artists who were shitty people
08:50 <xm> i would say if you're an alcoholic you're pretty much the same as a suicidal person anyway
09:00 <xm> you're just numbing your brain to not deal with how much you hate life
09:00 <RobertIngham> thats not true
09:00 <RobertIngham> thats absolute rubbish xm
09:00 <RobertIngham> Lish many girls are into pain sex
09:00 <Tigger_> what are these pastebins?
09:00 <baz> I also think it's different with different kinds of artists though
09:00 <RobertIngham> ive known many and are doing far better in life than anyone of you LOL
09:00 <RobertIngham> Tigger_ thinks he's an artist now
09:00 <RobertIngham> and art historian
09:00 <baz> Picasso painted, writers are different
09:00 <RobertIngham> xm thinks he's a drug rehab psyc
09:10 <xm> you're just numbing your brain to not deal with how much you hate life
09:11 <RobertIngham> thats not true
09:18 <RobertIngham> thats absolute rubbish xm
09:28 <RobertIngham> Lish many girls are into pain sex
09:34 <Tigger_> what are these pastebins?
09:41 <baz> I also think it's different with different kinds of artists though
09:42 <RobertIngham> ive known many and are doing far better in life than anyone of you LOL
09:50 <RobertIngham> Tigger_ thinks he's an artist now
09:53 <RobertIngham> and art historian
09:58 <baz> Picasso painted, writers are different
10:00 <Lish> Oh yeah I'm sure there are plenty of people 
10:00 <Lish> That's nots what's concerning about her conversations to me
10:00 <xm> baz, what about composers?
10:00 <xm> or are you not that into music
10:00 <Lish> Anyway I'm going to watch a show in bed
10:03 <RobertIngham> xm thinks he's a drug rehab psyc
10:05 <Lish> Oh yeah I'm sure there are plenty of people
10:14 <Lish> That's nots what's concerning about her conversations to me
10:27 <xm> baz, what about composers?
10:50 <xm> or are you not that into music
11:00 <Lish> If my husband would hurry up 
11:00 <RobertIngham> lol
11:00 <RobertIngham> Lish how big are you?
11:00 <baz> I think it's less interesting when composers are shitty people....
11:03 <Lish> Anyway I'm going to watch a show in bed
11:24 <Lish> If my husband would hurry up
11:48 <RobertIngham> lol
11:53 <RobertIngham> Lish how big are you?
11:59 <baz> I think it's less interesting when composers are shitty people....
12:00 <baz> are their subjects people?
12:00 <Lish> Huge 
12:00 <baz> again, they're different to writers
12:00 <xm> well it can be a love interest or something bigger: God
12:08 <baz> are their subjects people?
12:18 <Lish> Huge
12:22 <baz> again, they're different to writers
12:47 <xm> well it can be a love interest or something bigger: God
13:00 <xm> you can have a narrative too with lyrics of course but i dont really get into that
13:00 <xm> most of music is doof doof doof
13:00 <baz> it's different
13:00 <baz> they're being more specific
13:00 <baz> novelists and fiction writers in general, the ones who matter, are trying to make sense of things
13:00 <baz> striving to find meaning where there is none etc.
13:14 <xm> you can have a narrative too with lyrics of course but i dont really get into that
13:20 <xm> most of music is doof doof doof
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13:24 <baz> it's different
13:28 <baz> they're being more specific
13:51 <baz> novelists and fiction writers in general, the ones who matter, are trying to make sense of things
13:58 <baz> striving to find meaning where there is none etc.
14:00 <ajnin> xm go music brains
14:00 <baz> their ambition is broader, bigger, more mysterious
14:00 <ajnin> got hte fucking API working with acoustid
14:00 <ajnin> BAM
14:00 <ajnin> AC/DC 90% renames
14:00 <ajnin> all the main shit is sorted
14:00 <ajnin> loveing this!!
14:00 <xm> nice1
14:15 <ajnin> xm go music brains
14:17 <baz> their ambition is broader, bigger, more mysterious
14:31 <ajnin> got hte fucking API working with acoustid
14:32 <ajnin> BAM
14:40 <ajnin> AC/DC 90% renames
14:45 <ajnin> all the main shit is sorted
14:49 <ajnin> loveing this!!
14:59 <xm> nice1
15:00 <ajnin> thanks xm
15:00 <ajnin> good night again..
15:00 <baz> they're trying to encapsulate the baggy mess of existence, observing human interactions
15:00 <xm> ok cya
15:00 <baz> how we relate to ourselves and each other etc.
15:00 <baz> blah blah blah.
15:00 <Tigger_> I think the two artistic forms that have scaled the greatest heights are the novel and classical composition, completely unlike each other
15:00 <xm> well, i am a bit of a philistine
15:00 <Lish> Great now plivent is on to me
15:00 <Lish> For some reason
15:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he thinks ur sexy
15:05 <ajnin> thanks xm
15:09 <ajnin> good night again..
15:13 <baz> they're trying to encapsulate the baggy mess of existence, observing human interactions
15:13 <xm> ok cya
15:23 <baz> how we relate to ourselves and each other etc.
15:29 <baz> blah blah blah.
15:30 <Tigger_> I think the two artistic forms that have scaled the greatest heights are the novel and classical composition, completely unlike each other
15:35 <xm> well, i am a bit of a philistine
15:43 <Lish> Great now plivent is on to me
15:46 <Lish> For some reason
16:00 <Lish> Might ban him from here, objections?
16:00 <Tigger_> nobody objects to plivent being banned
16:00 <RobertIngham> emma pig
16:00 <baz> I place short stories and novels on the same level
16:00 <Lish> Who's Emma 
16:00 <baz> in fact many people believe the short story is the more purely artistic form
16:00 <Lish> Oh that girl in the other channel 
16:00 <Tigger_> oh, I include the short story too, I was not thinking
16:00 <xm> Tigger_ and baz, given the option of only being to choose one. which would you choose? movies or written literature?
16:03 <Mx_Brettingham_Trump> he thinks ur sexy
16:07 <Lish> Might ban him from here, objections?
16:18 <Tigger_> nobody objects to plivent being banned
16:28 <RobertIngham> emma pig
16:30 <baz> I place short stories and novels on the same level
16:36 <Lish> Who's Emma
16:39 <baz> in fact many people believe the short story is the more purely artistic form
16:47 <Lish> Oh that girl in the other channel
16:58 <Tigger_> oh, I include the short story too, I was not thinking
16:59 <xm> Tigger_ and baz, given the option of only being to choose one. which would you choose? movies or written literature?
17:00 <Lish> Movies
17:00 <Lish> Ok night 
17:00 <xm> id say movies too but that's mostly because im too lazy to read 
17:00 <baz> definitely literature
17:00 <baz> there's no question
17:00 <Tigger_> I'd go with the written word, there has never been a good film based on Poe or Lovecraft
17:00 <Lish> Me too xm haha 
17:00 <baz> and Tigger_ knows I'm a major bibliophile
17:00 <baz> oh, would you recommend Lovecraft, Tigger_?
17:00 <Tigger_> though if there were more Kubrick's, I might change my mind
17:07 <Lish> Movies
17:18 <Lish> Ok night
17:23 <xm> id say movies too but that's mostly because im too lazy to read
17:25 <baz> definitely literature
17:27 <baz> there's no question
17:27 <Tigger_> I'd go with the written word, there has never been a good film based on Poe or Lovecraft
17:31 <Lish> Me too xm haha
17:33 <baz> and Tigger_ knows I'm a major bibliophile
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17:52 <baz> oh, would you recommend Lovecraft, Tigger_?
18:00 <Tigger_> though if there were more Kubrick's, I might change my mind
18:00 <Tigger_> baz, absolutely
18:00 <baz> I've often had him in mind to try.
18:00 <baz> is he a good prose writer?
18:00 <baz> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/opinion/global-agenda-magazine-good-art-bad-people.html?_r=0
18:00 <Tigger_> Lovecraft is criticised for being too 'purple', but I think he has the perfect style for his subject matter
18:04 <Tigger_> baz, absolutely
18:05 <baz> I've often had him in mind to try.
18:22 <baz> is he a good prose writer?
18:35 <baz> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/opinion/global-agenda-magazine-good-art-bad-people.html?_r=0
18:58 <Tigger_> Lovecraft is criticised for being too 'purple', but I think he has the perfect style for his subject matter
19:00 <baz> Hemingway's youngest son was a transvestite... I didn't know that.
19:00 <baz> too purple?
19:00 <baz> haha
19:28 <baz> Hemingway's youngest son was a transvestite... I didn't know that.
19:43 <baz> too purple?
19:45 <baz> haha
20:00 <Tigger_> yes, Lovecraft's mind was that of an 18th century gentleman, trapped in the 20th century
20:00 <Tigger_> interesting that the ultra-masculine Hemingway sired a transvestite, fits perfectly
20:00 <baz> I'm not familiar with the expression...
20:21 <Tigger_> yes, Lovecraft's mind was that of an 18th century gentleman, trapped in the 20th century
20:58 <Tigger_> interesting that the ultra-masculine Hemingway sired a transvestite, fits perfectly
21:00 <Tigger_> oh right, purple prose is being too ornate
21:01 <baz> I'm not familiar with the expression...
21:33 <Tigger_> oh right, purple prose is being too ornate
22:00 <baz> ah
22:00 <baz> when I first got into literary fiction, I was mesmerised by the more ornate stuff, I loved the lyricism, musicality of it.
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22:04 <baz> ah
22:53 <baz> when I first got into literary fiction, I was mesmerised by the more ornate stuff, I loved the lyricism, musicality of it.
23:00 <Tigger_> same, a form should be allowed to exercise the powers unique to it
23:00 <baz> but nowadays I prefer clean, direct prose, still poetic in its way.
23:00 <baz> I don't like circumlocution.
23:00 <baz> it's what puts me off reading more Updike, and the bigger Roth novels.
23:22 <Tigger_> same, a form should be allowed to exercise the powers unique to it
23:27 <baz> but nowadays I prefer clean, direct prose, still poetic in its way.
23:41 <baz> I don't like circumlocution.
23:57 <baz> it's what puts me off reading more Updike, and the bigger Roth novels.
24:00 <Tigger_> that's more the modern approach, but when I'm reading I prefer that the text makes you do a bit of work, I find it more engaging
24:37 <Tigger_> that's more the modern approach, but when I'm reading I prefer that the text makes you do a bit of work, I find it more engaging
25:00 <baz> I like the stylists myself, if it serves and doesn't distract
25:25 <baz> I like the stylists myself, if it serves and doesn't distract
26:00 <baz> right now I'm reading Don DeLillo
26:00 <baz> his fiction is highly stylised, but I love it.
26:10 <baz> right now I'm reading Don DeLillo
26:28 <baz> his fiction is highly stylised, but I love it.
27:00 <Tigger_> if the narrative is too "clean" and direct, which more commercial fiction typically is, then all the virtues of the novel are largely restricted to the plot, and I'm thinking I may as well just watch the film
27:00 <Tigger_> I haven't read anything of Don DeLillo
27:00 <baz> no no, I don't think that's true at all.
27:31 <Tigger_> if the narrative is too "clean" and direct, which more commercial fiction typically is, then all the virtues of the novel are largely restricted to the plot, and I'm thinking I may as well just watch the film
27:53 <Tigger_> I haven't read anything of Don DeLillo
27:59 <baz> no no, I don't think that's true at all.
28:00 <Warren1984> `voice god-pot
28:56 <Warren1984> `voice god-pot
28:59 Mode: (by ChanOP) +v god-pot
29:00 <Warren1984> going down to the pub for a beer
29:00 <Tigger_> it has always been that way for me
29:44 <Warren1984> going down to the pub for a beer
29:54 <Tigger_> it has always been that way for me
30:00 <Warren1984> I have put on 2KG since I started studying
30:00 <Warren1984> not much exercise
30:00 <Tigger_> what do you weigh now Warren1984?
30:00 <Warren1984> 115.3KG
30:00 <Warren1984> but yesterday I was 115.8KG
30:00 <Tigger_> going to the pub for a beer won't help
30:08 <Warren1984> I have put on 2KG since I started studying
30:12 <Warren1984> not much exercise
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30:21 <Tigger_> what do you weigh now Warren1984?
30:34 <Warren1984> 115.3KG
30:51 <Warren1984> but yesterday I was 115.8KG
31:00 <baz> Kafka's prose, though stylistic, is quite simple and direct.
31:00 <baz> would you say he is largely concerned with plot?
31:00 <Warren1984> I just haven't done any face-to-face socializing
31:00 <Warren1984> feeling lonely
31:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what have you put on your day planner for tomorrow
31:01 <Tigger_> going to the pub for a beer won't help
31:14 <baz> Kafka's prose, though stylistic, is quite simple and direct.
31:20 <baz> would you say he is largely concerned with plot?
31:25 <Warren1984> I just haven't done any face-to-face socializing
31:28 <Warren1984> feeling lonely
31:52 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what have you put on your day planner for tomorrow
32:00 <Warren1984> or are you going to have another unproductive day
32:00 <Tigger_> actually Kafka has almost page long sentences in the original text, the early translations tended to break this up into several sentences, but I've noticed the more recent translations stick to his extremely long sentences
32:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I am going to chop some bushes tomorrow
32:00 <Warren1984> my cars battery is flat
32:04 <Warren1984> or are you going to have another unproductive day
32:39 <Tigger_> actually Kafka has almost page long sentences in the original text, the early translations tended to break this up into several sentences, but I've noticed the more recent translations stick to his extremely long sentences
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32:49 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I am going to chop some bushes tomorrow
32:54 <Warren1984> my cars battery is flat
33:00 <Warren1984> left the lights on
33:00 <Warren1984> my camry would have automatically turned them off
33:00 <baz> I recommend starting with White Noise... I'd like to know what you think of it.
33:04 <Warren1984> left the lights on
33:13 <Warren1984> my camry would have automatically turned them off
33:18 <baz> I recommend starting with White Noise... I'd like to know what you think of it.
34:00 <Tigger_> Kafka is more concerned about what the plot means than the plot as such
34:00 <baz> they are long sentences, but they are not indirect, are they?
34:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ 1st create a daily list of tasks
34:00 <Warren1984> 2nd give each task a priority A, B, C
34:00 <Warren1984> ensure you work on the "A" tasks first
34:00 <Tigger_> no they're not indirect, but it's certainly an atypical style
34:07 <Tigger_> Kafka is more concerned about what the plot means than the plot as such
34:16 <baz> they are long sentences, but they are not indirect, are they?
34:23 <Warren1984> Tigger_ 1st create a daily list of tasks
34:36 <Warren1984> 2nd give each task a priority A, B, C
34:56 <Warren1984> ensure you work on the "A" tasks first
34:57 <Tigger_> no they're not indirect, but it's certainly an atypical style
35:00 <Warren1984> 4th handle each piece of paper on your desk only once
35:00 <Warren1984> 5th ensure that you make the best use of your time
35:00 <Warren1984> 6th don't postpone anything - do it now!
35:14 <Warren1984> 4th handle each piece of paper on your desk only once
35:27 <Warren1984> 5th ensure that you make the best use of your time
35:43 <Warren1984> 6th don't postpone anything - do it now!
37:00 <baz> I like the smoothness of clean prose, it goes down like silky water
37:00 <baz> and the serious writers are never only about the plot, whether highly stylised or playing with language or not...
37:18 <baz> I like the smoothness of clean prose, it goes down like silky water
38:00 <baz> nor do the serious writers that count lose sight of the fact that they are storytellers.
38:04 <baz> and the serious writers are never only about the plot, whether highly stylised or playing with language or not...
38:43 <baz> nor do the serious writers that count lose sight of the fact that they are storytellers.
39:00 <baz> their job doesn't stop also being about enchanting the reader
39:00 <Tigger_> a lot of them do
39:10 <baz> their job doesn't stop also being about enchanting the reader
39:10 <Tigger_> a lot of them do
40:00 <baz> not the ones I'm a fan of
40:00 <baz> a lot of literary people my age love David Foster Wallace
40:26 <baz> not the ones I'm a fan of
41:00 <Tigger_> I'm just thinking of a dull collection by Anais Nin, it was more lengthy descriptions of her feelings, disconnected from any storytelling
41:00 <Tigger_> they love him because he committed suicide
41:00 <Tigger_> like Ian Curtis in Joy Division
41:01 <baz> a lot of literary people my age love David Foster Wallace
41:16 <Tigger_> I'm just thinking of a dull collection by Anais Nin, it was more lengthy descriptions of her feelings, disconnected from any storytelling
41:25 <Tigger_> they love him because he committed suicide
42:00 <baz> I refuse to read him because I begrudge him for writing a tome like Infinite Jest purposely to challenge readers and make the experience hard for them
42:01 <Tigger_> like Ian Curtis in Joy Division
42:16 <baz> I refuse to read him because I begrudge him for writing a tome like Infinite Jest purposely to challenge readers and make the experience hard for them
43:00 <Tigger_> I have never read it, but I suspect it is more owned than read
43:33 <Tigger_> I have never read it, but I suspect it is more owned than read
45:00 <baz> haha, probably
45:43 <baz> haha, probably
47:00 <baz> “My fiction may, now and again, illuminate aspects of the human condition, but I do not consciously set out to do so: I am a storyteller.”
47:00 <baz> quote by William Trevor, one of my favourite short story writers
47:47 <baz> “My fiction may, now and again, illuminate aspects of the human condition, but I do not consciously set out to do so: I am a storyteller.”
48:00 <Tigger_> that is a good approach
48:02 <baz> quote by William Trevor, one of my favourite short story writers
48:10 <Tigger_> that is a good approach
50:00 <Tigger_>  Wallace's father reported in an interview that his son had suffered from depression for more than 20 years and that antidepressant medication had allowed him to be productive.[8] When Wallace experienced severe side effects from the medication, he attempted to wean himself from his primary antidepressant, phenelzine.[9] On his doctor's advice, Wallace stopped taking the medication in June 2007,[8] and the depression returned. Wallace rece
50:00 <Tigger_> ived other treatments, including electroconvulsive therapy. When he returned to phenelzine, he found that it had lost its effectiveness.
50:00 <Tigger_> so terribly modern
50:44 <Tigger_> Wallace's father reported in an interview that his son had suffered from depression for more than 20 years and that antidepressant medication had allowed him to be productive.[8] When Wallace experienced severe side effects from the medication, he attempted to wean himself from his primary antidepressant, phenelzine.[9] On his doctor's advice, Wallace stopped taking the medication in June 2007,[8] and the depression returned. Wallace rece
50:44 <Tigger_> ived other treatments, including electroconvulsive therapy. When he returned to phenelzine, he found that it had lost its effectiveness.
50:48 <Tigger_> so terribly modern
51:00 <baz> heh
51:00 <Tigger_> Hemingway shooting himself because he couldn't bullfight or whatever, seems so much another age
51:00 <baz> the truth is I never really gave him a proper go
51:00 <baz> but I trust my intuition
51:21 <baz> heh
51:37 <Tigger_> Hemingway shooting himself because he couldn't bullfight or whatever, seems so much another age
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51:44 <baz> the truth is I never really gave him a proper go
51:50 <baz> but I trust my intuition
52:00 <baz> and there are too many great writers and books out there anyway to certainly last my lifetime
52:00 <Tigger_> life is short, you can't read everything, so you have to filter out the possibilities
52:00 <baz> that I don't have to
52:00 <baz> yep
52:25 <baz> and there are too many great writers and books out there anyway to certainly last my lifetime
52:32 <Tigger_> life is short, you can't read everything, so you have to filter out the possibilities
52:34 <baz> that I don't have to
52:55 <baz> yep
53:00 <baz> so far I've read 45 books this year
53:00 <Tigger_> more than one a week
53:00 <xm> do you listen to music as you read?
53:00 <xm> or does it distract you
53:25 <baz> so far I've read 45 books this year
53:38 <Tigger_> more than one a week
53:54 <xm> do you listen to music as you read?
53:59 <xm> or does it distract you
54:00 <baz> it distracts me
54:00 <Tigger_> I do not
54:00 <baz> it's there though when I read in public, in hip cafe's for example
54:00 <RobertIngham> http://pastebin.com/A55LWXBZ
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54:00 <Tigger_> I could never read in a public place, unless it was a park
54:28 <baz> it distracts me
54:34 <Tigger_> I do not
54:45 <baz> it's there though when I read in public, in hip cafe's for example
54:56 <RobertIngham> http://pastebin.com/A55LWXBZ
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55:00 <xm> Tigger_, i assume you mean with literature but not with wikipedia
55:01 <Tigger_> I could never read in a public place, unless it was a park
55:54 <xm> Tigger_, i assume you mean with literature but not with wikipedia
56:00 <Tigger_> I mean real books, not webpages
56:00 <xm> ah ok
56:00 <baz> “That's what fiction is for. It's for getting at the truth when the truth isn't sufficient for the truth.”
56:13 <Tigger_> I mean real books, not webpages
56:17 <xm> ah ok
56:56 <baz> “That's what fiction is for. It's for getting at the truth when the truth isn't sufficient for the truth.”
01:00 <Warren1984> no pub tonight
02:00 <Warren1984> no pub tonight
02:00 <Tigger_> I see fiction as an analogue to reality in contrast to academic theory that suffers from being too compartmentalised, the seemingly trivial, incidental details are a bad fit for theory, even though they may completely change the way you understand something, fiction encapsulates the untidiness of the world so much better
02:00 <Marttin> Why couldnt hemingway bullfight?
02:13 <Tigger_> I see fiction as an analogue to reality in contrast to academic theory that suffers from being too compartmentalised, the seemingly trivial, incidental details are a bad fit for theory, even though they may completely change the way you understand something, fiction encapsulates the untidiness of the world so much better
02:48 <Marttin> Why couldnt hemingway bullfight?
04:00 <baz> totally
04:00 <Tigger_> he was old and sick by that time, and he was an outdoors type, and preferred to die rather than be infirm
04:14 <baz> totally
04:24 <Tigger_> he was old and sick by that time, and he was an outdoors type, and preferred to die rather than be infirm
05:00 <Marttin> Today a third state in mexico prohibited bullfighting
05:00 <Tigger_> good
05:53 <Marttin> Today a third state in mexico prohibited bullfighting
05:59 <Tigger_> good
06:00 <xm> all this talk is bringing back memories of when id read so many books at the library. but it was nearly always non-fiction
06:00 <xm> i have occasionally gone back to libraries but it's mostly people surfing the Internet
06:00 <xm> free wifi too...
06:17 <xm> all this talk is bringing back memories of when id read so many books at the library. but it was nearly always non-fiction
06:39 <xm> i have occasionally gone back to libraries but it's mostly people surfing the Internet
06:46 <xm> free wifi too...
07:00 <baz> I have friends who don't understand why I choose to read fiction and not nonfiction
07:00 <xm> i was like that once
07:00 <baz> they're of the opinion that if they were to read, it would be a work of nonfiction because they choose to read about something real
07:00 <xm> what are most of your friends like culturally?
07:35 <baz> I have friends who don't understand why I choose to read fiction and not nonfiction
07:45 <xm> i was like that once
07:58 <baz> they're of the opinion that if they were to read, it would be a work of nonfiction because they choose to read about something real
08:00 <baz> it's really disheartening the number of people who truly are clueless about what fiction does and is for
08:02 <xm> what are most of your friends like culturally?
08:35 <baz> it's really disheartening the number of people who truly are clueless about what fiction does and is for
10:00 <Tigger_> they have a notion that it's just reading Twilight novels or something, I don't know
10:00 <xm> or highschool killed it for them, when school forced them to read "looking for alibrandi" or "tomorrow when the war began"
10:11 <Tigger_> they have a notion that it's just reading Twilight novels or something, I don't know
11:00 <Tigger_> they probably don't read those books now, the fads pass quickly, I'm not sure what they'd read now
11:00 <baz> they just see it as an equivalent to watching a movie
11:01 <xm> or highschool killed it for them, when school forced them to read "looking for alibrandi" or "tomorrow when the war began"
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11:35 <Tigger_> they probably don't read those books now, the fads pass quickly, I'm not sure what they'd read now
11:44 <baz> they just see it as an equivalent to watching a movie
12:00 <baz> I think what kills it for kids isn't those books but being made to read Shakespeare
12:33 <baz> I think what kills it for kids isn't those books but being made to read Shakespeare
13:00 <Tigger_> I still remember Shakespeare from school, but I've forgotten the topical teen issue novels we also had to read
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13:23 <Tigger_> I still remember Shakespeare from school, but I've forgotten the topical teen issue novels we also had to read
14:00 <Tigger_> my ideal English class would be: read books, no writing essays, homework, or assignments about them
14:17 <Tigger_> my ideal English class would be: read books, no writing essays, homework, or assignments about them
15:00 <baz> William Trevor on the short story, "Its strength lies in what it leaves out just as much as what it puts in. It is concerned with the total exclusion of meaninglessness. Life, on the other hand, is meaningless most of the time. The novel imitates life, where the short story is bony, and cannot wander. It is essential art."
15:00 <baz> I like that Tigger_, though I'd be okay with talking about them in class
15:05 <baz> William Trevor on the short story, "Its strength lies in what it leaves out just as much as what it puts in. It is concerned with the total exclusion of meaninglessness. Life, on the other hand, is meaningless most of the time. The novel imitates life, where the short story is bony, and cannot wander. It is essential art."
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15:55 <baz> I like that Tigger_, though I'd be okay with talking about them in class
16:00 <Tigger_> my experience was getting to read what could turn out to be a pretty good book, but then the experience ruined by having to write essays to answer tedious and stupid questions, analysing it to death
16:00 <Tigger_> instead of reading one book and wasting a lot of time having to write about it, just read more books
16:00 <baz> agreed
16:05 <Tigger_> my experience was getting to read what could turn out to be a pretty good book, but then the experience ruined by having to write essays to answer tedious and stupid questions, analysing it to death
16:54 <Tigger_> instead of reading one book and wasting a lot of time having to write about it, just read more books
17:00 <Warren1984> RAC is going to jump start my horse
17:00 <Tigger_> read enough and it'll all sink in anyway
17:00 <baz> it's why I never took literature, or seriously considered studying it at uni
17:00 <Tigger_> yes, such a toxic environment
17:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ when clip clop has a flat battery, do you put battery terminals on his balls and try to jump start him
17:00 <baz> terrible
17:04 <baz> agreed
17:08 <Warren1984> RAC is going to jump start my horse
17:14 <Tigger_> read enough and it'll all sink in anyway
17:19 <baz> it's why I never took literature, or seriously considered studying it at uni
17:39 <Tigger_> yes, such a toxic environment
17:56 <Warren1984> Tigger_ when clip clop has a flat battery, do you put battery terminals on his balls and try to jump start him
18:00 <Tigger_> one could only end up hating literature after being put through academia
18:00 <baz> the way Kafka in particular has been mistreated pisses me off
18:00 <xm> jap girl on tv with cat
18:00 <xm> now i think i know why japs have cats more than dogs
18:00 <baz> I came across a passage in a book I read recently, I'll find it...
18:00 <xm> they might be too lazy to walk them in the cold
18:01 <baz> terrible
18:20 <Tigger_> one could only end up hating literature after being put through academia
18:24 <baz> the way Kafka in particular has been mistreated pisses me off
18:33 <xm> jap girl on tv with cat
18:41 <xm> now i think i know why japs have cats more than dogs
18:41 <baz> I came across a passage in a book I read recently, I'll find it...
18:47 <xm> they might be too lazy to walk them in the cold
19:00 <baz> ah, it was in The Prague Orgy by Philip Roth
19:00 <Tigger_> actually I've noticed how so many people own a copy of Metamorphosis, yet no other works by Kafka, it turned out that it's a common text to study at university
19:00 <baz> "What was the scandal?"
19:29 <baz> ah, it was in The Prague Orgy by Philip Roth
19:31 <Tigger_> actually I've noticed how so many people own a copy of Metamorphosis, yet no other works by Kafka, it turned out that it's a common text to study at university
19:36 <baz> "What was the scandal?"
21:00 <baz> "Please," he says, "I don't wish to compare our two books. Yours is a work of genius, and mine is nothing. When I studied Kafka, the fate of his books in the hands of the Kafkaologists seemed to me to be more grotesque than the fate of Josef K. I feel this is true also with you. This scandalous response gives another grotesque dimension, and belongs now...
21:00 <Tigger_> lol, that's perfect
21:00 <baz> to your book as Kafkologine stupidities belong to Kafka."
21:11 <baz> "Please," he says, "I don't wish to compare our two books. Yours is a work of genius, and mine is nothing. When I studied Kafka, the fate of his books in the hands of the Kafkaologists seemed to me to be more grotesque than the fate of Josef K. I feel this is true also with you. This scandalous response gives another grotesque dimension, and belongs now...
21:38 <Tigger_> lol, that's perfect
21:39 <baz> to your book as Kafkologine stupidities belong to Kafka."
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24:00 <Tigger_> I've had some second hand exposure to literary studies material, and one thing that stuck in my mind was about some author, I forget whom, and a passage was quoted, followed by the question "What is the author trying to say?"
24:09 <Tigger_> I've had some second hand exposure to literary studies material, and one thing that stuck in my mind was about some author, I forget whom, and a passage was quoted, followed by the question "What is the author trying to say?"
25:00 <Tigger_> I thought this was most peculiar, as the author was quite succinct in what he was saying, he wasn't struggling at all, and expressed himself far more clearly than any 10th rate critical studies academic ever could
25:00 <baz> lol
25:07 <Tigger_> I thought this was most peculiar, as the author was quite succinct in what he was saying, he wasn't struggling at all, and expressed himself far more clearly than any 10th rate critical studies academic ever could
25:21 <baz> lol
29:00 <baz> and wouldn't you say that quite often what a writer is doing to a reader is infecting them with a feeling or a sense that's intangible, not meant to be articulated
29:55 <baz> and wouldn't you say that quite often what a writer is doing to a reader is infecting them with a feeling or a sense that's intangible, not meant to be articulated
31:00 <baz> often authors themselves struggle to say what their books are about
31:00 <baz> how are we meant to say what they're about?
31:00 <Tigger_> to analyse and articulate it is just to render it in poorer prose, and usually get it wrong anyway
31:21 <baz> often authors themselves struggle to say what their books are about
31:26 <baz> how are we meant to say what they're about?
31:39 <Tigger_> to analyse and articulate it is just to render it in poorer prose, and usually get it wrong anyway
33:00 <Tigger_> actually I recall an article in Quadrant highlighting a concern within literary studies academia that there were people out in the wild, never having studied literature, buying literary works and reading them without the benefit of their analytical tools
33:00 <Tigger_> the quotes had an alarmed tone to them
33:00 <baz> lol
33:14 <Tigger_> actually I recall an article in Quadrant highlighting a concern within literary studies academia that there were people out in the wild, never having studied literature, buying literary works and reading them without the benefit of their analytical tools
33:29 <Tigger_> the quotes had an alarmed tone to them
33:57 <baz> lol
39:00 <baz> who's short stories do you like?
39:26 <baz> who's short stories do you like?
41:00 <baz> whose*
41:00 <Tigger_> Poe of course, as he defined the form, then Sheridan LeFanu, HP Lovecraft, Arthur Conan Doyle is good, Kafka, Flannery O'Connor
41:00 <baz> I have a collection by O'Connor waiting to be read
41:05 <baz> whose*
41:25 <Tigger_> Poe of course, as he defined the form, then Sheridan LeFanu, HP Lovecraft, Arthur Conan Doyle is good, Kafka, Flannery O'Connor
41:50 <baz> I have a collection by O'Connor waiting to be read
42:00 <Tigger_> I got into short stories through 1940s and 50s SF, like Ray Bradbury
42:00 <baz> I really enjoyed the bizarre and original Wise Blood
42:00 <baz> I only read Fahrenheit 451 by him, and was put off
42:00 <Tigger_> yes, that's a superb book, I can't understand how a bedridden 27 year old wrote Wise Blood
42:00 <Tigger_> how were you put off?
42:04 <Tigger_> I got into short stories through 1940s and 50s SF, like Ray Bradbury
42:10 <baz> I really enjoyed the bizarre and original Wise Blood
42:35 <baz> I only read Fahrenheit 451 by him, and was put off
42:46 <Tigger_> yes, that's a superb book, I can't understand how a bedridden 27 year old wrote Wise Blood
42:54 <Tigger_> how were you put off?
43:00 <xm> i was given a Ray Bradbury book: i sing the body electric
43:38 <xm> i was given a Ray Bradbury book: i sing the body electric
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44:00 <baz> I really didn't like the dialogue
44:00 <Tigger_> the title comes from Walt Whitman
44:00 <baz> it was so unnatural
44:00 <Tigger_> what about the dialogue?  I don't remember
44:00 <xm> it has a ! at the end too. which i thought was weird
44:00 <baz> it just wasn't the real
44:08 <baz> I really didn't like the dialogue
44:16 <Tigger_> the title comes from Walt Whitman
44:22 <baz> it was so unnatural
44:28 <Tigger_> what about the dialogue? I don't remember
44:29 <xm> it has a ! at the end too. which i thought was weird
44:43 <baz> it just wasn't the real
45:00 <baz> it too clearly was only moving the story along, there was exposition in the dialogue
45:20 <baz> it too clearly was only moving the story along, there was exposition in the dialogue
46:00 <Tigger_> I recall the expository dialogue between Montag and his superior, about how the world came to be that way
46:00 <Tigger_> that can be a particular difficulty with world-building
46:08 <Tigger_> I recall the expository dialogue between Montag and his superior, about how the world came to be that way
47:01 <Tigger_> that can be a particular difficulty with world-building
48:00 <baz> I guess believability is more difficult for genre writers, because they're writing about something completely different and they have to use as much as they can to create and display that
48:00 <baz> yeah exactly
48:20 <baz> I guess believability is more difficult for genre writers, because they're writing about something completely different and they have to use as much as they can to create and display that
48:36 <baz> yeah exactly
49:00 <baz> it's what puts me off
49:00 <baz> whereas the reason I enjoyed Dick's The Man in the High Castle was that it was totally believable
49:00 <Tigger_> the recent Mad Max film has an interesting approach, almost nothing is said about the conventions of the world that it is set in, but the characters act according to the rules of that world, and the audience has to put it all together
49:16 <baz> it's what puts me off
49:37 <baz> whereas the reason I enjoyed Dick's The Man in the High Castle was that it was totally believable
50:00 <baz> the characters were just everyday people in this world he'd created, but he managed to crease the world and just place the characters in it
50:00 <baz> instead of using the characters to create it, if that makes sense
50:00 <Tigger_> yes, I get you
50:02 <Tigger_> the recent Mad Max film has an interesting approach, almost nothing is said about the conventions of the world that it is set in, but the characters act according to the rules of that world, and the audience has to put it all together
50:24 <baz> the characters were just everyday people in this world he'd created, but he managed to crease the world and just place the characters in it
50:35 <baz> instead of using the characters to create it, if that makes sense
50:41 <Tigger_> yes, I get you
51:00 <Tigger_> it was Heinlein who pioneered that approach, prior to him there tended to be a lot of exposition about the nature of the story's world
51:20 <Tigger_> it was Heinlein who pioneered that approach, prior to him there tended to be a lot of exposition about the nature of the story's world
52:00 <baz> Bradbury used the characters too much to create his world and therefore the characters were just props instead of people.
52:44 <baz> Bradbury used the characters too much to create his world and therefore the characters were just props instead of people.
54:00 <Tigger_> what did you think of it otherwise?  such as the theme
54:56 <Tigger_> what did you think of it otherwise? such as the theme
55:00 <baz> I don't necessarily believe that exposition is a bad thing, I'm not a strictly modernist in that way
55:00 <Tigger_> though Orwell embedded an essay in the middle of 1984
55:11 <baz> I don't necessarily believe that exposition is a bad thing, I'm not a strictly modernist in that way
55:39 <Tigger_> though Orwell embedded an essay in the middle of 1984
56:00 <baz> it's fine, just like with most things it can be good if done well
56:45 <baz> it's fine, just like with most things it can be good if done well
57:00 <baz> Tolstoy embedded War & Peace with an essay on history and the way people and historians treat it
57:00 <baz> I lapped it up.
57:34 <baz> Tolstoy embedded War & Peace with an essay on history and the way people and historians treat it
57:40 <baz> I lapped it up.
58:00 <Tigger_> Tolstoy's essay is usually derided though
58:20 <Tigger_> Tolstoy's essay is usually derided though
59:00 <baz> not by me
59:26 <baz> not by me
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