// #politicaldebate — 2015-08-06
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00:00:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-05/hiroshima-bombing-did-not-lead-japanese-surrender-anniversary/6672616
00:00:00 <progressive> [ Hiroshima atomic bombing did not lead to Japanese surrender, historians argue nearing 70th anniversary - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
00:00:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> 70 years later, there are still survivors of Hiroshima
00:00:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-05/hiroshima-bombing-did-not-lead-japanese-surrender-anniversary/6672616
00:00:44 <progressive> [ Hiroshima atomic bombing did not lead to Japanese surrender, historians argue nearing 70th anniversary - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
00:01:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> 70 years later, there are still survivors of Hiroshima
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00:07:00 <Warren1984> tigger is dead
00:07:58 <Warren1984> tigger is dead
00:11:00 <Warren1984> need a break from the study
00:11:24 <Warren1984> need a break from the study
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01:50:00 <Tigger_> so cold
01:51:12 <Tigger_> so cold
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06:17:00 <ajnin> w0rk time!
06:17:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> have a nice day
06:17:07 <ajnin> w0rk time!
06:17:40 <DaylightSlavingTime> have a nice day
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09:18:00 <xm> freezin
09:18:25 <xm> freezin
09:19:00 <xm> https://www.facebook.com/PlanetPawsPetEssentials/videos/880782361996647/?fref=nf
09:19:00 <progressive> [ Planet Paws | Facebook ] - www.facebook.com
09:19:55 <xm> https://www.facebook.com/PlanetPawsPetEssentials/videos/880782361996647/?fref=nf
09:19:57 <progressive> [ Planet Paws | Facebook ] - www.facebook.com
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11:22:00 <Warren1984> hi all
11:22:07 <Warren1984> hi all
11:29:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi Warren1984
11:29:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi Warren1984
11:33:00 <Warren1984> hey tigger
11:33:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> a photo from Mars: http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/images/mer_updates/2015-07/20150803_2-Marathon-View--Sol4090B-072615-False_PC-team.jpg
11:33:42 <Warren1984> hey tigger
11:33:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> a photo from Mars: http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/images/mer_updates/2015-07/20150803_2-Marathon-View--Sol4090B-072615-False_PC-team.jpg
11:34:00 <Warren1984> that looks cool
11:34:00 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime this course seems to have nothing to do with computers and everything to do with electronics
11:34:20 <Warren1984> that looks cool
11:34:52 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime this course seems to have nothing to do with computers and everything to do with electronics
11:35:00 <Warren1984> think I got myself in the wrong course
11:35:00 <Warren1984> I have questioned the lecturer about it
11:35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> did you check that you're in the right room?
11:35:00 <Warren1984> and he said this is a good start
11:35:00 <Warren1984> yeah
11:35:00 <Warren1984> because he called out our names
11:35:00 <Warren1984> cert II in computer assembly and repair is now called Cert II in electronics
11:35:01 <Warren1984> think I got myself in the wrong course
11:35:09 <Warren1984> I have questioned the lecturer about it
11:35:14 <DaylightSlavingTime> did you check that you're in the right room?
11:35:18 <Warren1984> and he said this is a good start
11:35:23 <Warren1984> yeah
11:35:31 <Warren1984> because he called out our names
11:35:56 <Warren1984> cert II in computer assembly and repair is now called Cert II in electronics
11:36:00 <Warren1984> so much stuff to remember
11:36:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> so when does the computer repair start?
11:36:00 <Warren1984> tigger you know how you can do something from youtube, is that because it's already there and organized for you to use it at will
11:36:00 <Warren1984> not sure
11:36:00 <Warren1984> hopefully next week
11:36:02 <Warren1984> so much stuff to remember
11:36:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> so when does the computer repair start?
11:36:47 <Warren1984> tigger you know how you can do something from youtube, is that because it's already there and organized for you to use it at will
11:36:49 <Warren1984> not sure
11:36:58 <Warren1984> hopefully next week
11:37:00 <Warren1984> there is no Cert III
11:37:00 <Warren1984> as all Cert III's are apprenticeships
11:37:00 <Warren1984> I wish I stayed in the lab tech course
11:37:00 <Warren1984> and used my digital voice recorder
11:37:00 <Warren1984> could have done it part time
11:37:05 <Warren1984> there is no Cert III
11:37:23 <Warren1984> as all Cert III's are apprenticeships
11:37:36 <Warren1984> I wish I stayed in the lab tech course
11:37:48 <Warren1984> and used my digital voice recorder
11:37:58 <Warren1984> could have done it part time
11:38:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, it's all there ready to use, also you can usually find lots of videos on the same subject, so if one doesn't explain it well enough for you, just watch someone elses
11:38:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, it's all there ready to use, also you can usually find lots of videos on the same subject, so if one doesn't explain it well enough for you, just watch someone elses
11:39:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> what's the racial composition of the students in this course?
11:39:00 <Warren1984> all whites except 2
11:39:00 <Warren1984> 1 black african and 1 arab
11:39:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> what's the racial composition of the students in this course?
11:39:20 <Warren1984> all whites except 2
11:39:29 <Warren1984> 1 black african and 1 arab
11:40:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> strange that there's a black there
11:40:00 <Warren1984> tigger in 2 days I have recorded 14 hours
11:40:59 <DaylightSlavingTime> strange that there's a black there
11:41:00 <Warren1984> tigger in 2 days I have recorded 14 hours
11:41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the arab probably wants to learn electronics to make time bombs
11:41:00 <Warren1984> If you use youtube would you watch 14 hours of the same topic
11:41:00 <Warren1984> in 2 days
11:41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> no, usually I'd get the hang of whatever I wanted to know before then
11:41:10 <DaylightSlavingTime> the arab probably wants to learn electronics to make time bombs
11:41:27 <Warren1984> If you use youtube would you watch 14 hours of the same topic
11:41:33 <Warren1984> in 2 days
11:41:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> no, usually I'd get the hang of whatever I wanted to know before then
11:42:00 <Warren1984> so you would watch the theory and comprehend that before doing it?
11:42:59 <Warren1984> so you would watch the theory and comprehend that before doing it?
11:43:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> something like that
11:43:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'll watch videos until I'm confident enough to do it myself
11:43:33 <DaylightSlavingTime> something like that
11:43:48 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'll watch videos until I'm confident enough to do it myself
11:45:00 <Warren1984> what are good topics to learn about Tigger?
11:45:25 <Warren1984> what are good topics to learn about Tigger?
11:46:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> cooking is always a very useful one
11:46:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> cooking is always a very useful one
11:47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> there are even videos on programming, but I've never used them to learn anything
11:47:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> there are even videos on programming, but I've never used them to learn anything
11:48:00 <Warren1984> the way to organize information is to make sure it's practical data
11:48:00 <Warren1984> is that right tigger
11:48:00 <Warren1984> the way to use
11:48:26 <Warren1984> the way to organize information is to make sure it's practical data
11:48:32 <Warren1984> is that right tigger
11:48:52 <Warren1984> the way to use
11:49:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> sometimes it's good to know theory
11:49:23 <DaylightSlavingTime> sometimes it's good to know theory
12:05:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-search-plane-debris-is-from-missing-plane/story-fnizu68q-1227471271416
12:05:00 <progressive> [ MH370 found on Reunion Island: Wreckage discovered is from MH370 ] - www.news.com.au
12:05:05 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-search-plane-debris-is-from-missing-plane/story-fnizu68q-1227471271416
12:05:05 <progressive> [ MH370 found on Reunion Island: Wreckage discovered is from MH370 ] - www.news.com.au
12:06:00 <Warren1984> they finally confirmed it
12:06:00 <Warren1984> so it didn't land
12:06:05 <Warren1984> they finally confirmed it
12:06:18 <Warren1984> so it didn't land
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12:10:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Prime Minister Tony Abbott says Australia will continue to search for MH370, as “we owe it to the families of the people lost on the plane to try and solve this mystery.”
12:10:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> Speaking to 3AW’s Neil Mitchell, Mr Abbott added that “we also owe it to the travelling public who want to feel safe when they travel abroad.”
12:10:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's a waste of money now, they should bring the search ships home
12:10:00 <Warren1984> yeah
12:10:00 <Warren1984> esp since China doesn't want to put any money into it
12:10:00 <Warren1984> stingy bastards
12:10:01 <DaylightSlavingTime> Prime Minister Tony Abbott says Australia will continue to search for MH370, as “we owe it to the families of the people lost on the plane to try and solve this mystery.”
12:10:01 <DaylightSlavingTime> Speaking to 3AW’s Neil Mitchell, Mr Abbott added that “we also owe it to the travelling public who want to feel safe when they travel abroad.”
12:10:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's a waste of money now, they should bring the search ships home
12:10:31 <Warren1984> yeah
12:10:42 <Warren1984> esp since China doesn't want to put any money into it
12:10:48 <Warren1984> stingy bastards
12:15:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> China is saying to its own people, "Go ahead and die for all we care"
12:15:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> China is saying to its own people, "Go ahead and die for all we care"
12:16:00 <Warren1984> very backwards country
12:16:00 <Warren1984> It's like saying well we don't care and therefore we don't want to know the root cause of the problem
12:16:00 <Warren1984> we don't care if it happens again
12:16:10 <Warren1984> very backwards country
12:16:43 <Warren1984> It's like saying well we don't care and therefore we don't want to know the root cause of the problem
12:16:52 <Warren1984> we don't care if it happens again
12:17:00 <Warren1984> or let the Western worlds do the work for us at their expense
12:17:17 <Warren1984> or let the Western worlds do the work for us at their expense
12:19:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> pretty much
12:19:00 <Warren1984> I wonder what the new theories are
12:19:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they're probably laughing their heads off "Stupid aussies paying $100 million to search for our citizens, and we don't spend a cent!!!"
12:19:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> pretty much
12:19:23 <Warren1984> I wonder what the new theories are
12:19:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> they're probably laughing their heads off "Stupid aussies paying $100 million to search for our citizens, and we don't spend a cent!!!"
12:32:00 <Warren1984> the thing is Abbott is wasting our money
12:32:58 <Warren1984> the thing is Abbott is wasting our money
12:33:00 <Warren1984> I don't like Abbott
12:33:00 <Warren1984> 1st he made education expensive
12:33:00 <Warren1984> 2nd he stopped the NBN
12:33:00 <Warren1984> 3rd he made me get a review from the Psychiatrist which cost me $66
12:33:04 <Warren1984> I don't like Abbott
12:33:22 <Warren1984> 1st he made education expensive
12:33:32 <Warren1984> 2nd he stopped the NBN
12:33:53 <Warren1984> 3rd he made me get a review from the Psychiatrist which cost me $66
12:34:00 <Warren1984> 4th he wasted tax money on going in a miltary jet
12:34:00 <Warren1984> 5th he gave money to King Philip
12:34:11 <Warren1984> 4th he wasted tax money on going in a miltary jet
12:34:40 <Warren1984> 5th he gave money to King Philip
12:35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> he didn't stop the NBN
12:35:00 <Warren1984> 6th he allowed that person to have expensive travel
12:35:00 <Warren1984> yes he did
12:35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the NBN is still being rolled out, but faster now
12:35:00 <Warren1984> he made it fiber to the node
12:35:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> that's still NBN
12:35:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> he didn't stop the NBN
12:35:29 <Warren1984> 6th he allowed that person to have expensive travel
12:35:32 <Warren1984> yes he did
12:35:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> the NBN is still being rolled out, but faster now
12:35:42 <Warren1984> he made it fiber to the node
12:35:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> that's still NBN
12:36:00 <Warren1984> which means you have to share the fiber optic cable with others
12:36:00 <Warren1984> if you have to share that mean slower speed
12:36:00 <Warren1984> about the only thing good he has done is stopped the boat people
12:36:00 <Warren1984> unemployment has increased as well
12:36:03 <Warren1984> which means you have to share the fiber optic cable with others
12:36:22 <Warren1984> if you have to share that mean slower speed
12:36:35 <Warren1984> about the only thing good he has done is stopped the boat people
12:36:57 <Warren1984> unemployment has increased as well
12:41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> education should be turned into apprenticeships
12:41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> in the old days people had apprenticeships and were paid while they learned
12:41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> now people pay to learn
12:41:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> so shut down universities and TAFEs, and go back to apprenticeships
12:41:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> education should be turned into apprenticeships
12:41:31 <DaylightSlavingTime> in the old days people had apprenticeships and were paid while they learned
12:41:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> now people pay to learn
12:41:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> so shut down universities and TAFEs, and go back to apprenticeships
12:44:00 <Warren1984> http://www.quintcareers.com/career_change_mistakes.html
12:44:00 <progressive> [ 10 Career Change Mistakes to Avoid ] - www.quintcareers.com
12:44:00 <Warren1984> Making a career change solely based on money/benefits.
12:44:00 <Warren1984> Certain career fields are very alluring because of the salary and other benefits they offer, but be very careful of switching careers because of all the dollar signs. Keep repeating to yourself, "money won't buy me happiness." Remember that you may make more money, but if you hate your new career, you'll probably be spending that money on stress- and health-related expenses. A career
12:44:00 <Warren1984> that's hot today could be gone tomorrow, so dig deeper.
12:44:44 <Warren1984> http://www.quintcareers.com/career_change_mistakes.html
12:44:45 <progressive> [ 10 Career Change Mistakes to Avoid ] - www.quintcareers.com
12:44:48 <Warren1984> Making a career change solely based on money/benefits.
12:44:48 <Warren1984> Certain career fields are very alluring because of the salary and other benefits they offer, but be very careful of switching careers because of all the dollar signs. Keep repeating to yourself, "money won't buy me happiness." Remember that you may make more money, but if you hate your new career, you'll probably be spending that money on stress- and health-related expenses. A career
12:44:48 <Warren1984> that's hot today could be gone tomorrow, so dig deeper.
12:47:00 <Warren1984> doesn't work like that though tigger
12:47:00 <Warren1984> because lets say you are a little kid
12:47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> why not? it used to
12:47:00 <Warren1984> and you had an egg
12:47:00 <Warren1984> and your Mum said don't drop that egg
12:47:15 <Warren1984> doesn't work like that though tigger
12:47:26 <Warren1984> because lets say you are a little kid
12:47:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> why not? it used to
12:47:36 <Warren1984> and you had an egg
12:47:45 <Warren1984> and your Mum said don't drop that egg
12:48:00 <Warren1984> a kid that learns faster will remember not to drop the egg and if they do they are aware of the consequences
12:48:00 <Warren1984> however a slower learner would drop the eggs and suffer the consequences
12:48:18 <Warren1984> a kid that learns faster will remember not to drop the egg and if they do they are aware of the consequences
12:48:37 <Warren1984> however a slower learner would drop the eggs and suffer the consequences
12:49:00 <Warren1984> employers these days what switched on people, they don't have to teach much
12:49:00 <Warren1984> what = want
12:49:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, the employers are the main beneficiaries, they used to have to do the teaching themselves, now they get the workers to pay for it
12:49:09 <Warren1984> employers these days what switched on people, they don't have to teach much
12:49:14 <Warren1984> what = want
12:49:42 <DaylightSlavingTime> yes, the employers are the main beneficiaries, they used to have to do the teaching themselves, now they get the workers to pay for it
12:50:00 <Warren1984> yeah
12:50:04 <Warren1984> yeah
12:51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> and so if TAFEs and universities were all knocked down, then employers would have to go back to teaching their workers
12:51:38 <DaylightSlavingTime> and so if TAFEs and universities were all knocked down, then employers would have to go back to teaching their workers
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13:09:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi anotherirc3r
13:09:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi anotherirc3r
13:12:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-06/find-shows-new-species-of-dwarf-emu-lived-in-central-australia/6677356
13:12:00 <progressive> [ New species of dwarf emu discovered from fossils at Alcoota in Central Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
13:12:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Tigger
13:12:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> this is no good, they should find a giant emu, 6 stories high
13:12:22 <DaylightSlavingTime> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-06/find-shows-new-species-of-dwarf-emu-lived-in-central-australia/6677356
13:12:23 <progressive> [ New species of dwarf emu discovered from fossils at Alcoota in Central Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
13:12:37 <anotherirc3r> heya Tigger
13:12:38 <DaylightSlavingTime> this is no good, they should find a giant emu, 6 stories high
13:17:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> and say that the giant emus went to war with dinosaurs
13:17:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
13:17:16 <DaylightSlavingTime> and say that the giant emus went to war with dinosaurs
13:17:37 <anotherirc3r> lol
13:40:00 <Warren1984> hey Jen
13:40:25 <Warren1984> hey Jen
13:43:00 <anotherirc3r> hey Warren :)
13:43:40 <anotherirc3r> hey Warren :)
13:44:00 <Warren1984> Jen this is what I showed tigger
13:44:00 <Warren1984> http://www.quintcareers.com/career_change_mistakes.html
13:44:00 <progressive> [ 10 Career Change Mistakes to Avoid ] - www.quintcareers.com
13:44:00 <Warren1984> Making a career change solely based on money/benefits.
13:44:00 <Warren1984> Certain career fields are very alluring because of the salary and other benefits they offer, but be very careful of switching careers because of all the dollar signs. Keep repeating to yourself, "money won't buy me happiness." Remember that you may make more money, but if you hate your new career, you'll probably be spending that money on stress- and health-related expenses. A career
13:44:00 <Warren1984> that's hot today could be gone tomorrow, so dig deeper.
13:44:03 <Warren1984> Jen this is what I showed tigger
13:44:04 <Warren1984> http://www.quintcareers.com/career_change_mistakes.html
13:44:05 <progressive> [ 10 Career Change Mistakes to Avoid ] - www.quintcareers.com
13:44:11 <Warren1984> Making a career change solely based on money/benefits.
13:44:11 <Warren1984> Certain career fields are very alluring because of the salary and other benefits they offer, but be very careful of switching careers because of all the dollar signs. Keep repeating to yourself, "money won't buy me happiness." Remember that you may make more money, but if you hate your new career, you'll probably be spending that money on stress- and health-related expenses. A career
13:44:11 <Warren1984> that's hot today could be gone tomorrow, so dig deeper.
13:48:00 <Warren1984> this study so far hasn't taught me anything about how you can use the knowledge in order to make money
13:48:51 <Warren1984> this study so far hasn't taught me anything about how you can use the knowledge in order to make money
13:51:00 <Warren1984> Jen if I am more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships and family, isn't that bad
13:51:00 <Warren1984> If I had family I would better focused on keeping a job to provide for the family
13:51:00 <Warren1984> had my own family
13:51:20 <Warren1984> Jen if I am more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships and family, isn't that bad
13:51:45 <Warren1984> If I had family I would better focused on keeping a job to provide for the family
13:51:54 <Warren1984> had my own family
13:53:00 <anotherirc3r> well...
13:53:00 <anotherirc3r> it's not 'bad'
13:53:06 <anotherirc3r> well...
13:53:28 <anotherirc3r> it's not 'bad'
14:14:00 <Warren1984> anotherirc3r if my problem is the fact I struggle with practical matters, is the solution to practice practical matters
14:14:00 <Warren1984> but then what practical matters specifically
14:14:24 <Warren1984> anotherirc3r if my problem is the fact I struggle with practical matters, is the solution to practice practical matters
14:14:42 <Warren1984> but then what practical matters specifically
14:37:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> the first step is to learn to control the things that are actually within your control
14:37:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> the first step is to learn to control the things that are actually within your control
14:43:00 <Warren1984> good point tigger
14:43:00 <Warren1984> unless you have a busy schedule you are likely to slack off
14:43:02 <Warren1984> good point tigger
14:43:32 <Warren1984> unless you have a busy schedule you are likely to slack off
14:47:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> such as think of a single thing that needs to be done, that you can do entirely by yourself, without any need for others to be a part of it in any way, doesn't require any money to be spent to do it
14:47:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> such as think of a single thing that needs to be done, that you can do entirely by yourself, without any need for others to be a part of it in any way, doesn't require any money to be spent to do it
14:51:00 <Warren1984> you may under-estimate your potential though tigger
14:51:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> that isn't something to worry about in the short term
14:51:33 <Warren1984> you may under-estimate your potential though tigger
14:51:59 <DaylightSlavingTime> that isn't something to worry about in the short term
14:52:00 <Warren1984> getting more money would help
14:52:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> no, that's the wrong way to think
14:52:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's an excuse to do nothing
14:52:00 <Warren1984> It's a tool to get help for things you are not good at
14:52:17 <Warren1984> getting more money would help
14:52:29 <DaylightSlavingTime> no, that's the wrong way to think
14:52:34 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's an excuse to do nothing
14:52:57 <Warren1984> It's a tool to get help for things you are not good at
14:53:00 <Warren1984> such as cooking healthy meals
14:53:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> always look for ways to do things for free
14:53:00 <Warren1984> the problem with relationships is give and take
14:53:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's the easy way out to just spend money on a problem, you don't learn anything
14:53:12 <Warren1984> such as cooking healthy meals
14:53:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> always look for ways to do things for free
14:53:44 <Warren1984> the problem with relationships is give and take
14:53:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's the easy way out to just spend money on a problem, you don't learn anything
14:54:00 <Warren1984> you could marry a woman who is good at cooking
14:54:00 <Warren1984> but then she will want something in return
14:54:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't think modern women are any good at cooking
14:54:00 <Warren1984> or you will be dependant on her
14:54:01 <Warren1984> you could marry a woman who is good at cooking
14:54:11 <Warren1984> but then she will want something in return
14:54:30 <DaylightSlavingTime> I don't think modern women are any good at cooking
14:54:36 <Warren1984> or you will be dependant on her
14:55:00 <Warren1984> well in order to increase confidence
14:55:00 <Warren1984> you must prioritize compensations on things that are your weaknesses
14:55:00 <Warren1984> if I am no good at cooking it's not worth studying a computer course
14:55:00 <Warren1984> because my priorities are wrong
14:55:00 <Warren1984> cooking is more important
14:55:04 <Warren1984> well in order to increase confidence
14:55:25 <Warren1984> you must prioritize compensations on things that are your weaknesses
14:55:41 <Warren1984> if I am no good at cooking it's not worth studying a computer course
14:55:50 <Warren1984> because my priorities are wrong
14:55:55 <Warren1984> cooking is more important
14:56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's no good studying electronics things that you'll never use
14:56:00 <Warren1984> well it hasn't been much hands on yet
14:56:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> on youtube there are heaps and heaps of videos on how to build and repair computers
14:56:17 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's no good studying electronics things that you'll never use
14:56:42 <Warren1984> well it hasn't been much hands on yet
14:56:57 <DaylightSlavingTime> on youtube there are heaps and heaps of videos on how to build and repair computers
14:57:00 <Warren1984> that is why it's about electronics
14:57:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> and there are even more videos about cooking
14:57:19 <Warren1984> that is why it's about electronics
14:57:47 <DaylightSlavingTime> and there are even more videos about cooking
14:58:00 <Warren1984> how could you possibly know more than someone who studies for at least 20 hours per week over a 1 year pyramid
14:58:00 <Warren1984> that is like 20 x 52
14:58:20 <Warren1984> how could you possibly know more than someone who studies for at least 20 hours per week over a 1 year pyramid
14:58:39 <Warren1984> that is like 20 x 52
14:59:00 <Warren1984> 20 x 52 = 1,040
14:59:00 <Warren1984> are you trying to say in 1 year time you would know more from youtube than someone who has studied 1,040 hours in a year?
14:59:03 <Warren1984> 20 x 52 = 1,040
14:59:41 <Warren1984> are you trying to say in 1 year time you would know more from youtube than someone who has studied 1,040 hours in a year?
15:01:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's because at a course, they teach you all sorts of random and irrelevant stuff that you never end up using
15:01:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> whereas if you teach yourself on youtube, you just learn the things you want to know
15:01:00 <Warren1984> not true
15:01:00 <Warren1984> otherwise TAFE Uni would collapse
15:01:08 <DaylightSlavingTime> it's because at a course, they teach you all sorts of random and irrelevant stuff that you never end up using
15:01:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> whereas if you teach yourself on youtube, you just learn the things you want to know
15:01:44 <Warren1984> not true
15:01:53 <Warren1984> otherwise TAFE Uni would collapse
15:03:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> I've been told by lots of people with uni degrees that they never used anything that they learned
15:03:06 <DaylightSlavingTime> I've been told by lots of people with uni degrees that they never used anything that they learned
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16:25:27 <ajnin> good afternoon
16:25:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi ajnin
16:26:59 <anotherirc3r> heya ajnin
16:27:16 <ajnin> I am good
16:27:27 <ajnin> thinking about dinner
16:27:35 <ajnin> had a bad dinner last night...
16:27:49 <ajnin> Large pizza 1/2 aussie 1/2 Mexican
16:27:52 <ajnin> and a 1.25 coke
16:27:54 <ajnin> smashed it!
16:28:08 <ajnin> work up fat guilting myself LOL
16:28:17 <ajnin> no kitchen is fucking me
16:28:29 <anotherirc3r> yummmmm
16:28:33 <anotherirc3r> i had pizza last night too
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16:29:03 <DaylightSlavingTime> ajnin, so you added the cost of the pizza to your spreadsheet?
16:29:15 <anotherirc3r> meatlovers!
16:29:17 <anotherirc3r> was awesome
16:29:45 <ajnin> http://www.victoriasbasement.com.au/Product/Details/81312
16:29:45 <ajnin> or
16:29:45 <ajnin> http://www.victoriasbasement.com.au/Product/Details/81311
16:29:47 <progressive> [ Laguiole by Jean Dubost - Eco Line Charcoal 24pc Cutlery Set (Made in France) ] - www.victoriasbasement.com.au
16:29:49 <progressive> [ Laguiole by Jean Dubost - Eco Line Victoria Knife and Fork 12pc Set (Made in France) ] - www.victoriasbasement.com.au
16:30:05 <ajnin> what one to get .... well what colours... ill get the full set of each
16:30:15 <ajnin> DaylightSlavingTime no. Paid cash for that one
16:30:26 <ajnin> my spreadsheet is about 95% accurate
16:30:34 <ajnin> anything cash is not covered
16:30:59 <DaylightSlavingTime> I like the black handled cutlery better
16:31:06 <ajnin> DaylightSlavingTime good
16:31:11 <ajnin> thats what I got LOL
16:31:15 <ajnin> just wanted some backup
16:31:27 <ajnin> i like it cause they have been on them
16:31:30 <DaylightSlavingTime> the coloured one is too kiddy, not elegant
16:31:45 <ajnin> DaylightSlavingTime i did not think of it like that
16:31:53 <ajnin> I liked it cause its bright and energtic
16:32:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> like a crayon set
16:32:04 <ajnin> and I not really a classy guy
16:32:15 <ajnin> would not have formal dinner parties or anything like that
16:32:20 <ajnin> more of a jeans and BBQ style
16:32:27 <ajnin> but I see your point thinking about it now
16:32:30 <ajnin> there was also a white set
16:32:34 <ajnin> which was nice
16:32:37 <ajnin> and a Jade set
16:32:48 <ajnin> looked good, but too chinese for me
16:32:59 <ajnin> the white one... I was thinking I was going overboard with white
16:33:04 <ajnin> cause the new kitchen is white
16:33:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> you can't go wrong with black, unless it's a marriage partner
16:33:33 <ajnin> or you put your money on it at the casino
16:33:56 <ajnin> https://imgur.com/gallery/nruq92I
16:33:56 <progressive> [ My girlfriend has a cook book from the 1920's, was looking through it when suddenly.... - Imgur ] - imgur.com
16:34:37 <DaylightSlavingTime> I bet a bunch of people went and made it after seeing it on imgur
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16:42:17 <ajnin> haha
16:42:20 <ajnin> maybe
16:42:33 <ajnin> make them white and htye look like klans men
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17:21:39 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime does boiling water clean showers and sinks
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18:10:45 <Warren1984> studying is tiring
18:11:19 <Warren1984> managed to upload every power point presentation to MS OneNote
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18:57:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGv7uUey8jE
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18:57:13 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGv7uUey8jE
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19:16:00 <Warren1984> exem I think I understand the difference between connecting peices of information together and external information gathering
19:16:00 <Warren1984> connecting peices of information together is like putting a puzzle together to see the complete picture
19:16:00 <Warren1984> good for like detective work
19:16:00 <Warren1984> or investigative
19:16:17 <Warren1984> exem I think I understand the difference between connecting peices of information together and external information gathering
19:16:44 <Warren1984> connecting peices of information together is like putting a puzzle together to see the complete picture
19:16:54 <Warren1984> good for like detective work
19:16:59 <Warren1984> or investigative
19:18:00 <Warren1984> external information gathering is a complete big picture, but binging together many of them
19:18:00 <Warren1984> with a much more superfical understanding
19:18:30 <Warren1984> external information gathering is a complete big picture, but binging together many of them
19:18:49 <Warren1984> with a much more superfical understanding
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19:20:00 <Warren1984> the INTP's brain uses introverted sensing to focus on the details and the sequence of events the have occured, which backs up extroverted intuition in which connects bits of information to form the big puzzle
19:20:00 <Warren1984> the = that
19:20:26 <Warren1984> the INTP's brain uses introverted sensing to focus on the details and the sequence of events the have occured, which backs up extroverted intuition in which connects bits of information to form the big puzzle
19:20:38 <Warren1984> the = that
19:21:00 <Warren1984> the big puzzle been the bigger picture
19:21:00 <Warren1984> a truth
19:21:01 <Warren1984> the big puzzle been the bigger picture
19:21:04 <Warren1984> a truth
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19:48:00 <Warren1984> xm did you see my message
19:48:00 <Warren1984> before
19:48:12 <Warren1984> xm did you see my message
19:48:15 <Warren1984> before
19:49:00 <Warren1984> the difference between internal information gathering and external information gathering
19:49:00 <Warren1984> internal information can connect to form a big picture
19:49:00 <Warren1984> a puzzle
19:49:00 <Warren1984> a mystery
19:49:00 <Warren1984> investigation
19:49:08 <Warren1984> the difference between internal information gathering and external information gathering
19:49:21 <Warren1984> internal information can connect to form a big picture
19:49:28 <Warren1984> a puzzle
19:49:33 <Warren1984> a mystery
19:49:39 <Warren1984> investigation
19:50:00 <Warren1984> external information gathering is about binding data together from the outside world
19:50:00 <Warren1984> it's called data-binding
19:50:33 <Warren1984> external information gathering is about binding data together from the outside world
19:50:45 <Warren1984> it's called data-binding
19:51:00 <Warren1984> external information already has the puzzle
19:51:49 <Warren1984> external information already has the puzzle
19:52:00 <Warren1984> but needs to be broken down in order to become practical
19:52:00 <Warren1984> but data-binding is shifting through huge quantities of information
19:52:06 <Warren1984> but needs to be broken down in order to become practical
19:52:29 <Warren1984> but data-binding is shifting through huge quantities of information
19:53:00 <Warren1984> it's hard to take in external information even when binded because there is so much data
19:53:38 <Warren1984> it's hard to take in external information even when binded because there is so much data
19:54:00 <Warren1984> to figure out how the world works would mean organizing everything happening in the world at once
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19:54:17 <Warren1984> to figure out how the world works would mean organizing everything happening in the world at once
19:55:00 <Warren1984> and monitoring every second of it
19:55:00 <Warren1984> impossible
19:55:00 <Warren1984> well the human brain couldn't handle that
19:55:00 <Warren1984> only computers could
19:55:22 <Warren1984> and monitoring every second of it
19:55:24 <Warren1984> impossible
19:55:37 <Warren1984> well the human brain couldn't handle that
19:55:42 <Warren1984> only computers could
19:56:00 <Warren1984> CCTV of every 1mm of the entire world
19:56:23 <Warren1984> CCTV of every 1mm of the entire world
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20:28:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Lish
20:28:56 <anotherirc3r> heya Lish
20:29:00 <Lish> hey jen
20:29:00 <Lish> whats up
20:29:20 <Lish> hey jen
20:29:22 <Lish> whats up
20:30:00 <anotherirc3r> nothing much, you?
20:30:26 <anotherirc3r> nothing much, you?
20:32:00 <Lish> just finished up some work now watching lip sync battles
20:32:00 <Lish> its funny
20:32:06 <Lish> just finished up some work now watching lip sync battles
20:32:09 <Lish> its funny
20:33:00 <Warren1984> Lish how long did you go to class and study for when you were at Uni per week?
20:33:06 <Warren1984> Lish how long did you go to class and study for when you were at Uni per week?
20:34:00 <Lish> I dunno Warren1984
20:34:00 <Warren1984> I am at TAFE for 14 hours per week
20:34:21 <Lish> I dunno Warren1984
20:34:55 <Warren1984> I am at TAFE for 14 hours per week
20:35:00 <Lish> nice
20:35:00 <Warren1984> in 1 year that is 14 x 52 = 728 hours
20:35:00 <Warren1984> now tigger believes he can learn more from youtube about a subject
20:35:03 <Lish> nice
20:35:30 <Warren1984> in 1 year that is 14 x 52 = 728 hours
20:35:52 <Warren1984> now tigger believes he can learn more from youtube about a subject
20:36:00 <Warren1984> so all he needs is youtube
20:36:00 <xm> what are you doing at TAFE
20:36:00 <Warren1984> electronics
20:36:00 <Warren1984> I wanted to do computer assembly and repair
20:36:00 <Warren1984> but it's mainly electronics
20:36:00 <xm> what is the exact name of your course
20:36:00 <xm> which campus?
20:36:00 <Warren1984> if I want to do computers I need to study computer systems cert IV
20:36:00 <Warren1984> midland
20:36:10 <Warren1984> so all he needs is youtube
20:36:14 <xm> what are you doing at TAFE
20:36:19 <Warren1984> electronics
20:36:30 <Warren1984> I wanted to do computer assembly and repair
20:36:38 <Warren1984> but it's mainly electronics
20:36:41 <xm> what is the exact name of your course
20:36:46 <xm> which campus?
20:36:56 <Warren1984> if I want to do computers I need to study computer systems cert IV
20:37:00 <Warren1984> midland
20:37:00 <Lish> i want a cheeseburger
20:37:00 <Warren1984> Cert II in computer assembly and repair
20:37:00 <xm> oh i thought you meant electronics like circuit boards, soldering etc
20:37:00 <Warren1984> yeah we will be doing that
20:37:12 <Lish> i want a cheeseburger
20:37:12 <Warren1984> Cert II in computer assembly and repair
20:37:38 <xm> oh i thought you meant electronics like circuit boards, soldering etc
20:37:48 <Warren1984> yeah we will be doing that
20:38:00 <xm> are you OK with soldering?
20:38:00 <xm> shaking hands etc?
20:38:00 <Warren1984> http://www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au/content/certificate-ii-computer-assembly-and-repair
20:38:00 <progressive> [ Certificate II in Computer Assembly and Repair courses & training in Perth Australia | Polytechnic West ] - www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au
20:38:00 <Warren1984> This qualification is delivered as a dual qualification with A113 Certificate II in Electronics at no extra cost. This represents great value study as you get two qualifications for the price of one.
20:38:00 <Warren1984> I have done soldering in the past so I don't see why I wouldn't
20:38:00 <Warren1984> be
20:38:01 <xm> are you OK with soldering?
20:38:04 <xm> shaking hands etc?
20:38:30 <Warren1984> http://www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au/content/certificate-ii-computer-assembly-and-repair
20:38:34 <progressive> [ Certificate II in Computer Assembly and Repair courses & training in Perth Australia | Polytechnic West ] - www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au
20:38:44 <Warren1984> This qualification is delivered as a dual qualification with A113 Certificate II in Electronics at no extra cost. This represents great value study as you get two qualifications for the price of one.
20:38:59 <Warren1984> I have done soldering in the past so I don't see why I wouldn't
20:39:00 <Warren1984> be
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21:04:00 <Lish> wheres ti
21:04:00 <Lish> tiger
21:04:06 <Lish> wheres ti
21:04:08 <Lish> tiger
21:08:00 <anotherirc3r> Lish, DaylightSlavingTime :P
21:08:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Ozone
21:08:00 <Ozone> hey
21:08:42 <anotherirc3r> Lish, DaylightSlavingTime :P
21:08:45 <anotherirc3r> heya Ozone
21:08:55 <Ozone> hey
21:09:00 <Lish> yeah i meant like where is he
21:09:49 <Lish> yeah i meant like where is he
21:12:00 <Warren1984> the lecturer uploaded 434 pages in 2 days for me
21:12:00 <Warren1984> doesn't that seem a bit excessive?
21:12:43 <Warren1984> the lecturer uploaded 434 pages in 2 days for me
21:12:54 <Warren1984> doesn't that seem a bit excessive?
21:14:00 <Warren1984> xm is that excessive?
21:14:50 <Warren1984> xm is that excessive?
21:16:00 <anotherirc3r> [21:16] DaylightSlavingTime has been idle 4hrs 41mins 40secs, signed on Thu Aug 06 02:19:31 2015
21:16:00 <anotherirc3r> not here i guess lol
21:16:00 <Lish> sherlock holmes here
21:16:23 <anotherirc3r> [21:16] DaylightSlavingTime has been idle 4hrs 41mins 40secs, signed on Thu Aug 06 02:19:31 2015
21:16:26 <anotherirc3r> not here i guess lol
21:16:35 <Lish> sherlock holmes here
21:20:00 <Warren1984> Lish is 434 pages in 2 days excessive?
21:20:00 <Lish> what are you supposed to do with them
21:20:10 <Warren1984> Lish is 434 pages in 2 days excessive?
21:20:26 <Lish> what are you supposed to do with them
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21:21:00 <Warren1984> read and retain them
21:21:53 <Warren1984> read and retain them
21:22:00 <Warren1984> I can't retain that much information
21:22:00 <IvanTheBastard> hello friends
21:22:00 <Warren1984> in 2 days
21:22:14 <Warren1984> I can't retain that much information
21:22:14 <IvanTheBastard> hello friends
21:22:17 <Warren1984> in 2 days
21:24:00 <Warren1984> hey IvanTheBastard
21:24:55 <Warren1984> hey IvanTheBastard
21:25:00 <Warren1984> Is that a lot to remember Lish?
21:25:00 <Warren1984> 484 pages in 2 days
21:25:50 <Warren1984> Is that a lot to remember Lish?
21:25:57 <Warren1984> 484 pages in 2 days
21:26:00 <Lish> yes
21:26:00 <Warren1984> I know I can't do it
21:26:15 <Lish> yes
21:26:52 <Warren1984> I know I can't do it
21:27:00 <Warren1984> but your superior Asian brain could
21:27:01 <Warren1984> but your superior Asian brain could
21:34:00 <ajnin> i got a goot iron
21:34:00 <ajnin> they used to make some good shit
21:34:00 <ajnin> back in the modding days
21:34:09 <ajnin> i got a goot iron
21:34:15 <ajnin> they used to make some good shit
21:34:20 <ajnin> back in the modding days
21:42:00 <Lish> xm how much do you expect the salary of a Snr BA to be?
21:42:00 <Ozone> 25k
21:42:02 <Lish> xm how much do you expect the salary of a Snr BA to be?
21:42:22 <Ozone> 25k
21:45:00 <xm> im not sure how to convert 1,500 Indian Rupee to AUD
21:45:00 <xm> but that'd be it
21:45:00 <Lish> hahahaha
21:45:00 <xm> but nah at least 6 figures
21:45:37 <xm> im not sure how to convert 1,500 Indian Rupee to AUD
21:45:41 <xm> but that'd be it
21:45:52 <Lish> hahahaha
21:45:58 <xm> but nah at least 6 figures
21:46:00 <xm> also pay in perth is less than melb
21:46:00 <xm> so maybe at least 110k in melb
21:46:00 <xm> that is being conservative
21:46:00 <Lish> yeah
21:46:00 <Lish> what about senior dev? i have no idea how much they get paid
21:46:00 <xm> it can vary
21:46:08 <xm> also pay in perth is less than melb
21:46:19 <xm> so maybe at least 110k in melb
21:46:25 <xm> that is being conservative
21:46:41 <Lish> yeah
21:46:49 <Lish> what about senior dev? i have no idea how much they get paid
21:46:57 <xm> it can vary
21:47:00 <xm> sharepoint stuff is six figures
21:47:00 <xm> a senior dev doing web stuff would be 80k?
21:47:00 <xm> this is in Perth
21:47:00 <Lish> yeah i reckon about 80k
21:47:00 <xm> i know of TAFE grads getting six figures doing database admin work
21:47:05 <xm> sharepoint stuff is six figures
21:47:22 <xm> a senior dev doing web stuff would be 80k?
21:47:25 <xm> this is in Perth
21:47:37 <Lish> yeah i reckon about 80k
21:47:58 <xm> i know of TAFE grads getting six figures doing database admin work
21:48:00 <xm> courses that took 18 months
21:48:00 <Lish> but dba is boring
21:48:00 <Lish> :D
21:48:00 <xm> exactly
21:48:00 <xm> i get contacted all the time to do oracle work. it would pay very well but i refuse
21:48:00 <Lish> hahaha yeah
21:48:00 <Lish> gotta go
21:48:00 <Lish> bye
21:48:00 <xm> id literally rather be on the D$P
21:48:00 <xm> ok cya
21:48:04 <xm> courses that took 18 months
21:48:08 <Lish> but dba is boring
21:48:09 <Lish> :D
21:48:13 <xm> exactly
21:48:27 <xm> i get contacted all the time to do oracle work. it would pay very well but i refuse
21:48:33 <Lish> hahaha yeah
21:48:34 <Lish> gotta go
21:48:35 <Lish> bye
21:48:38 <xm> id literally rather be on the D$P
21:48:40 <xm> ok cya
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21:55:00 <^pHANTOM^> xm come to melb
21:55:56 <^pHANTOM^> xm come to melb
21:56:00 <^pHANTOM^> dont we pay more here?
21:56:00 <^pHANTOM^> for a senior dev?
21:56:00 <xm> my family has talked about moving there before
21:56:01 <^pHANTOM^> dont we pay more here?
21:56:07 <^pHANTOM^> for a senior dev?
21:56:59 <xm> my family has talked about moving there before
22:01:00 <^pHANTOM^> good stuff.
22:01:47 <^pHANTOM^> good stuff.
22:02:00 <Ozone> <@xm> sharepoint stuff is six figures
22:02:00 <Ozone> what the fuck.
22:02:00 <Ozone> lol
22:02:24 <Ozone> <@xm> sharepoint stuff is six figures
22:02:26 <Ozone> what the fuck.
22:02:30 <Ozone> lol
22:04:00 <xm> a good one at least
22:04:00 <xm> it would be min 80k
22:04:00 <xm> although looking now i see some 75k on seek
22:04:00 <xm> they charge about $100 p/h
22:04:14 <xm> a good one at least
22:04:27 <xm> it would be min 80k
22:04:38 <xm> although looking now i see some 75k on seek
22:04:51 <xm> they charge about $100 p/h
22:05:00 <xm> or more
22:05:00 <^pHANTOM^> 100 an hour would be bliss.
22:05:00 <xm> http://www.seek.com.au/job/29169419?pos=13&type=standout&engineConfig=&tier=no_tier&whereid=
22:05:00 <progressive> [ SharePoint - Senior SharePoint Consultant/Architect - Genuine Career opportunity Job in Melbourne - SEEK ] - www.seek.com.au
22:05:00 <xm> $150k
22:05:15 <xm> or more
22:05:18 <^pHANTOM^> 100 an hour would be bliss.
22:05:49 <xm> http://www.seek.com.au/job/29169419?pos=13&type=standout&engineConfig=&tier=no_tier&whereid=
22:05:52 <progressive> [ SharePoint - Senior SharePoint Consultant/Architect - Genuine Career opportunity Job in Melbourne - SEEK ] - www.seek.com.au
22:05:55 <xm> $150k
22:06:00 <xm> how much you get paid can vary depending on experience etc of course
22:06:00 <xm> i think PHP coders get the least
22:06:00 <Ozone> are you kidding me
22:06:00 <Ozone> 150k to upload documents
22:06:00 <Ozone> i'm in the wrong line of work
22:06:00 <xm> i dont mean using sharepoint
22:06:00 <^pHANTOM^> not kidding Ozone
22:06:16 <xm> how much you get paid can vary depending on experience etc of course
22:06:41 <xm> i think PHP coders get the least
22:06:41 <Ozone> are you kidding me
22:06:49 <Ozone> 150k to upload documents
22:06:55 <Ozone> i'm in the wrong line of work
22:06:57 <xm> i dont mean using sharepoint
22:06:59 <^pHANTOM^> not kidding Ozone
22:07:00 <xm> i mean developing stuff for it
22:07:00 <StrykerX> PHP coders get ripped
22:07:00 <StrykerX> Share Point is easy
22:07:00 <Ozone> you don't develop stuff for sharepoint, sharepoint is a frigging joke
22:07:00 <^pHANTOM^> share point is developed by who?
22:07:00 <StrykerX> Microsoft
22:07:00 <^pHANTOM^> thought so
22:07:00 <^pHANTOM^> so you need to know C# then?
22:07:00 <^pHANTOM^> and VB
22:07:02 <xm> i mean developing stuff for it
22:07:05 <StrykerX> PHP coders get ripped
22:07:09 <StrykerX> Share Point is easy
22:07:17 <Ozone> you don't develop stuff for sharepoint, sharepoint is a frigging joke
22:07:22 <^pHANTOM^> share point is developed by who?
22:07:27 <StrykerX> Microsoft
22:07:34 <^pHANTOM^> thought so
22:07:48 <^pHANTOM^> so you need to know C# then?
22:07:58 <^pHANTOM^> and VB
22:09:00 <xm> it's when you want to do custom stuff is when it gets expensive (dev etc)
22:09:00 <ajnin> yo
22:09:13 <xm> it's when you want to do custom stuff is when it gets expensive (dev etc)
22:09:30 <ajnin> yo
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22:10:00 <xm> given that the vendor is MS it will probably be adopted by larger firms with more $$$
22:10:00 <xm> ive never used it myself
22:10:00 <^pHANTOM^> yep
22:10:00 <^pHANTOM^> sup ajnin
22:10:32 <xm> given that the vendor is MS it will probably be adopted by larger firms with more $$$
22:10:47 <xm> ive never used it myself
22:10:50 <^pHANTOM^> yep
22:10:57 <^pHANTOM^> sup ajnin
22:11:58 Quit: Ozone ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
22:12:00 <xm> some woman wants me to fix her e-commerce site, but the problem is it's all done manually in PHP rather than a CMS/shopping cart
22:12:00 <^pHANTOM^> big headache
22:12:10 <xm> some woman wants me to fix her e-commerce site, but the problem is it's all done manually in PHP rather than a CMS/shopping cart
22:12:39 <^pHANTOM^> big headache
22:13:00 <xm> so it's going to be one of those things where the same mistakes are replicated everywhere
22:13:29 <xm> so it's going to be one of those things where the same mistakes are replicated everywhere
22:14:00 <^pHANTOM^> yep
22:14:00 <^pHANTOM^> big $$$ though
22:14:00 <^pHANTOM^> if you take it on.
22:14:10 <^pHANTOM^> yep
22:14:20 <^pHANTOM^> big $$$ though
22:14:25 <^pHANTOM^> if you take it on.
22:38:00 <ajnin> yeppppppppp
22:38:00 <ajnin> I am oncall
22:38:00 <ajnin> i start to do the wet plaster
22:38:00 <ajnin> BAM
22:38:00 <ajnin> work fucking calls
22:38:00 <ajnin> its like they KNOW
22:38:32 <ajnin> yeppppppppp
22:38:37 <ajnin> I am oncall
22:38:44 <ajnin> i start to do the wet plaster
22:38:46 <ajnin> BAM
22:38:49 <ajnin> work fucking calls
22:38:54 <ajnin> its like they KNOW
22:39:00 <ajnin> anyways took 1 hour to fix the issue
22:39:00 <ajnin> by then the wet plaster was dired :(
22:39:00 <ajnin> still finished the job.. need to sand tomorrow
22:39:06 <ajnin> anyways took 1 hour to fix the issue
22:39:15 <ajnin> by then the wet plaster was dired :(
22:39:22 <ajnin> still finished the job.. need to sand tomorrow
22:43:00 <ajnin> https://imgur.com/Te3xVgr
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22:43:34 <ajnin> https://imgur.com/Te3xVgr
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22:51:00 <^pHANTOM^> that sucks
22:51:23 <^pHANTOM^> that sucks
23:03:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> loolollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
23:03:34 Join: Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
23:03:52 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> loolollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
23:04:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> MORNING ALL
23:04:38 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> MORNING ALL
23:07:00 <^pHANTOM^> its evening at the moment Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu
23:07:37 <^pHANTOM^> its evening at the moment Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu
23:08:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> woody?
23:08:36 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> woody?
23:09:00 <^pHANTOM^> what about woody mx?
23:09:00 <Warren1984> Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu would you like to use structure and routine to fix multiple electronic/electric things
23:09:01 <^pHANTOM^> what about woody mx?
23:09:11 <Warren1984> Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu would you like to use structure and routine to fix multiple electronic/electric things
23:11:00 <Warren1984> you can make money by fixing electronic/electrical things
23:11:51 <Warren1984> you can make money by fixing electronic/electrical things
23:14:00 <Warren1984> Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu is a technician
23:14:00 <Warren1984> a person employed to look after technical equipment or do practical work in a laboratory
23:14:21 <Warren1984> Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu is a technician
23:14:37 <Warren1984> a person employed to look after technical equipment or do practical work in a laboratory
23:21:00 <Marttin> Warren can you work for yourself and be on D$P?
23:21:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Marttin
23:21:00 <Marttin> more hours than that you can be employed I mean
23:21:00 <Marttin> Hi Jen
23:21:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> hello lion
23:21:00 <Marttin> I saw 2 very gay looking guys with long hair today
23:21:03 <Marttin> Warren can you work for yourself and be on D$P?
23:21:10 <anotherirc3r> heya Marttin
23:21:18 <Marttin> more hours than that you can be employed I mean
23:21:20 <Marttin> Hi Jen
23:21:35 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> hello lion
23:21:53 <Marttin> I saw 2 very gay looking guys with long hair today
23:22:00 <Marttin> One was gook, I saw him first sit on mcdonalds and though it washalf woman or something, then he came down the stairs
23:22:00 <Marttin> And a bit after something even funnier
23:22:00 <Marttin> A nigger muslim woman with a trolley with a baby and a burka, and by her side a nigger with a usa tshirt
23:22:00 <Marttin> Morning brett
23:22:18 <Marttin> One was gook, I saw him first sit on mcdonalds and though it washalf woman or something, then he came down the stairs
23:22:26 <Marttin> And a bit after something even funnier
23:22:50 <Marttin> A nigger muslim woman with a trolley with a baby and a burka, and by her side a nigger with a usa tshirt
23:22:58 <Marttin> Morning brett
23:23:00 <Marttin> The tshirt or shirt with a USA flag I mean
23:23:35 <Marttin> The tshirt or shirt with a USA flag I mean
23:26:00 <anotherirc3r> you wanted the muslim woman, didn't you?
23:26:22 <anotherirc3r> you wanted the muslim woman, didn't you?
23:28:00 <Marttin> No
23:28:00 <Marttin> You must be thinking on something you have spoken with strum
23:28:00 <anotherirc3r> lol no
23:28:00 <anotherirc3r> lies!
23:28:15 <Marttin> No
23:28:35 <Marttin> You must be thinking on something you have spoken with strum
23:28:41 <anotherirc3r> lol no
23:28:43 <anotherirc3r> lies!
23:29:00 <Marttin> Why whould I want a muslim wife? Id want 4!
23:29:00 <anotherirc3r> well, true
23:29:00 <Marttin> With a multidirectional sexual both, ETERNAL FIRE
23:29:00 <anotherirc3r> might as well have more than 1
23:29:00 <Marttin> bot*
23:29:02 <Marttin> Why whould I want a muslim wife? Id want 4!
23:29:32 <anotherirc3r> well, true
23:29:36 <Marttin> With a multidirectional sexual both, ETERNAL FIRE
23:29:36 <anotherirc3r> might as well have more than 1
23:29:48 <Marttin> bot*
23:30:00 <Marttin> No seriously, try to remember who this was
23:30:00 <Marttin> I have spoken about jewish girls, but not muslims
23:30:04 <Marttin> No seriously, try to remember who this was
23:30:29 <Marttin> I have spoken about jewish girls, but not muslims
23:33:00 <anotherirc3r> lol give me a break i'm drinking
23:33:00 <Marttin> Alcohol you mean?
23:33:00 <anotherirc3r> ya
23:33:00 <Marttin> I had pacharan yesterday
23:33:00 <Marttin> Im not sure if its called like that in english too
23:33:02 <anotherirc3r> lol give me a break i'm drinking
23:33:13 <Marttin> Alcohol you mean?
23:33:30 <anotherirc3r> ya
23:33:46 <Marttin> I had pacharan yesterday
23:33:57 <Marttin> Im not sure if its called like that in english too
23:34:00 <anotherirc3r> what is that?
23:34:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> one day i hope to try alcohol
23:34:16 <anotherirc3r> what is that?
23:34:45 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> one day i hope to try alcohol
23:35:00 <Marttin> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patxaran
23:35:00 <Marttin> XDDD
23:35:00 <Marttin> I drank just 10cl though
23:35:17 <Marttin> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patxaran
23:35:21 <Marttin> XDDD
23:35:47 <Marttin> I drank just 10cl though
23:36:00 <anotherirc3r> how much volume?
23:36:00 <anotherirc3r> of alcohol
23:36:00 <anotherirc3r> like percentage
23:36:00 <Marttin> No idea, wiki says 20-30%
23:36:00 <anotherirc3r> oh, right
23:36:03 <anotherirc3r> how much volume?
23:36:06 <anotherirc3r> of alcohol
23:36:08 <anotherirc3r> like percentage
23:36:17 <Marttin> No idea, wiki says 20-30%
23:36:54 <anotherirc3r> oh, right
23:38:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> anotherirc3r wheres prom?
23:38:52 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> anotherirc3r wheres prom?
23:39:00 <anotherirc3r> ni
23:39:00 <anotherirc3r> never talked to him before
23:39:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> bullshit
23:39:17 <anotherirc3r> ni
23:39:20 <anotherirc3r> never talked to him before
23:39:31 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> bullshit
23:41:00 <anotherirc3r> true
23:41:30 <anotherirc3r> true
23:43:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> who is watching the GOP debates on best coverage tomorrow?
23:43:24 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> who is watching the GOP debates on best coverage tomorrow?
23:46:00 <Marttin> What is that
23:46:00 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> 0,4 President Trump
23:46:09 <Marttin> What is that
23:46:49 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> President Trump
23:46:52 Quit: cita ([email protected]) Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
23:47:00 <Marttin> Oh
23:47:58 <Marttin> Oh
23:48:00 <Marttin> It could be fun
23:48:00 <Marttin> If you are online while its live and they put in on the website ill watch
23:48:05 <Marttin> It could be fun
23:48:58 <Marttin> If you are online while its live and they put in on the website ill watch
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