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00:00 <DoC> whether its black or white in my opinion they are ok (if they are not racist)
00:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> Clip Clop will stomp you for your own good if you try to repair a lawnmower
00:00 <paradox> Hmm.
01:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> and the Republicans had an American Indian vice president in the 1920s, without making an endless fuss about it
01:00 <Warren1984> Language. It helps to listen for the concrete language of the ISTP, which often creates a picture in the listener's mind. Such language is likely to be full of specific EXAMPLES and stories. INTP and INTJ language tends to reference abstract concepts with a focus on precision. ISTPs often get at the essence of something rather succinctly, whereas, INTPs and INTJ go into more depth.
01:00 <Warren1984> a picture LamarcusSkylooter
01:00 <Warren1984> a picture
02:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> you are to continue studying and practicing your forklift skills
02:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> do a Masters degree in forklift studies
02:00 <Warren1984> well when I get my licence I don't really think I want to be a forklift driver
02:00 <Warren1984> seems very boring
02:00 <Warren1984> forklift mechanic
02:00 <paradox> boring?
03:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Curtis
03:00 <paradox> Warren1984, do you want a job for the money or you want something to do ?
03:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter what if it was very windy and a flyer went up into the air and paper cut my throat
03:00 <paradox> Warren1984, You're just jamming up the system for others so just shut the fuckup
03:00 <Warren1984> what if I get hit by a car
03:00 <paradox> good
04:00 <paradox> ur a fucking idiot Warren1984 
04:00 <doctor> imagine all the cool things you could do with a forklift: you could go rob a bank, you could chase after elderly pedestrians on their way to centrelink, you could wrestle a tank and ram cars off the freeway
04:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> use your forklift to unload new shipments of X rated porn blurays
05:00 <Warren1984> lol
05:00 <paradox> doctor, You ever been to jail ?
05:00 <paradox> I just got out
05:00 <doctor> i heard the porn industry treats their employees well
05:00 <doctor> why'd they let you out?
05:00 <Warren1984> ISTPs have a compelling drive to understand the way things work. They're good at logical analysis, and like to use it on practical concerns. They typically have strong powers of reasoning, although they're not interested in theories or concepts unless they can see a practical APPLICATION. They like to take things apart and see the way they work.
05:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> what were you in jail for Shane?
06:00 <paradox> I just walked out the district court in perth bruddah
06:00 <paradox> was in hakea for 8 days
06:00 <Warren1984> I would take a lawn mower engine apart to see how it works
06:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> hakea?
06:00 <paradox> Yes.
06:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> what is that/
06:00 <doctor> you don
06:00 <Warren1984> but then I might not be able to put it all back together
06:00 <paradox> Ill be there tomorrow to pick up my wallet
06:00 <doctor> you don't seem to be a crim
06:00 <Warren1984> which with experience and SOPs can do
07:00 <paradox> Warren would get dis ere *two fingers into a hole* if he was ever in hakea prison
07:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> paradox, did you have to undo your pants and let them rectally inspect you?
07:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter should I work my way up to becoming a warehouse manager?
07:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> yes Warren1984 
07:00 <paradox> yes\
07:00 <doctor> a managers stressful work
07:00 <Warren1984> once I get my forklift licence, get my truck licence
07:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> be the manager at a porn warehouse
08:00 <paradox> just waiting for my mum to get home with smokes my wallet is still at hakea i got out at court in the city
08:00 <doctor> i recommend just living the d$p life and not worrying
08:00 <Warren1984> then computer courses
08:00 <paradox> Your centrelink payment gets cut off when you are in prison because people in custody cannot recieve payments
08:00 <paradox> But there was this chicks number Jade 
08:00 <paradox> on my fone at the prison
08:00 <paradox> must have been lookin for me
09:00 <doctor> with all these stories about you running into the law shane i'd expect you to be either dead or locked up for a long time
09:00 <paradox> i wrote her number on my arm when i went to court and i wrote it down going to see who it was
09:00 <paradox> doctor, Well I wasn't even going to tell you all where i've been for the past 8 days but hell yeh just blerted it out
09:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> shane, but why were you in jail?
10:00 <paradox> I have a suspended scentance
10:00 <paradox> they wanted to instate it for dis-oberying an officer in northbridge for a move on notice
10:00 <paradox> but so many breaches of bail on my record i was refused bail
10:00 <paradox> was remanded for 8 days in hakea
10:00 <paradox> hence my abscense from IRC
11:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> welcome back then
11:00 <doctor> stay out of trouble and be good to your mother
11:00 <paradox> Lots of murderes and armed robbers in there
11:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> did you fight them?
11:00 <paradox> But I met a guy I knew from primary school who was finishing off his scentance
12:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter you need to be able to handle just about any task that you are presented with
12:00 <paradox> he got 7 years for armed robbery
12:00 <paradox> but served 4
12:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> how much did he steal?
12:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, enough to travel around europe for a year
12:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> so he actually did that?
12:00 <paradox> yes
13:00 <paradox> when he came back from england they got him at the airport
13:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> interesting
13:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> what did he rob?
13:00 <paradox> His sister was in my year 6 primary school in 1998
13:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, a deli, fast food place, and a post office
13:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> he should've just stayed over there then
14:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> it's rare you hear about an armed robber that actually got to spend their money
14:00 <paradox> probly yer maybe he got home sick
14:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I'd rob a comic shop
14:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, I heard just the other day on the news that some people stole something like 30 thousand dollars from a safe and police couldn't recover it
15:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> go in with a sawn off shotgun and demand their Donald Duck comics
15:00 <paradox> lol
15:00 <paradox> yer
15:00 <paradox> double barrell
15:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> did they steal it from a private house?
15:00 <paradox> a business
16:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, But personally i'd rob actual business partners in the real world
16:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I wonder if they ever got the safe open
16:00 <paradox> instead of walking into a business
16:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> how do you mean?
16:00 <paradox> I would make a business partner in the real world
16:00 <paradox> be smart about it
16:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> ah yes
16:00 <paradox> make a cash drop off at sometime
16:00 <paradox> then hold him up at gun point
16:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> but he'd know who you are
17:00 <paradox> Yeah but he probable wouldn't even report it
17:00 <paradox> seeing as there is no evidence
17:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> when are you going to do your first bank robbery?
17:00 <paradox> like how most common assaults go unreported 
17:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, next year maybe
18:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, I have to become a hard figure in the criminal world
18:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> go for a major heist, like in Heat
18:00 <paradox> learn to be careful
18:00 <paradox> Indeed.
18:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter is money the way that the world works?
18:00 <Warren1984> doctor?
18:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> yes
18:00 <paradox> cash monies yes
18:00 <Warren1984> so why aren't you out there making more?
19:00 <paradox> cause jobs suck
19:00 <paradox> theyre for dorks
19:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I am, I'm making it with my laser printer, printing out cash
19:00 <paradox> LOL
19:00 <paradox> can you print polymer notes ?
20:00 <paradox> i heard of some people conterfeitting the $5 note
20:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I don't worry about that, I just print them on paper
20:00 <paradox> i'd think that the $100 note would be the easiest to counterfeit
20:00 <paradox> because its handed around less and they wouldn't notice
20:00 <paradox> and thats what you want is the big bills
21:00 <Warren1984> money is how the world works, but is it the way it should work?
21:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> yes
21:00 <paradox> Warren1984, no but you can't change it
21:00 <Warren1984> why?
21:00 <paradox> Warren1984, we're too old now to change the world or do anything
21:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> how else are we supposed to know rich from poor people?
21:00 <paradox> im nearly 30
22:00 <paradox> i looked like that kid off wonder years when i was younger loll
23:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, But yeah it was a good day in court man.
23:00 <paradox> I'm all clear now
23:00 <paradox> no more charges to face 
23:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> what did the magistrate say?
23:00 <paradox> cleared it all up
23:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> so now you can go out and commit more crimes
23:00 <Warren1984> could it be used to improve the world and leave it a better place, perhaps?
23:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, Well he did say I live a meager existance and am not an active member of society
24:00 <Warren1984> or should we be greedy and hog it for ourselves
24:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> did he say anything nice?
24:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, Yes but more crimes come with more charges
24:00 <paradox> no
24:00 <paradox> but if i got caught doing a crime i'd go in the slot for sure
24:00 <doctor> I'm not active but I'm more a silent revolutionary than a criminal
24:00 <paradox> I been in unit 7 in hakea for the last 8 days
24:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> what does hakea mean?
25:00 <paradox> i dunno
25:00 <paradox> its like a suburb
25:00 <doctor> attacking society proves nothing - in fact it only serves to strengthen it
25:00 <paradox> its in canningvale
25:00 <paradox> I had a few cell mates
25:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> did they try to come onto you?
25:00 <paradox> one of them shot the guy who was rooting his wife while he was in jail which landed him back there
26:00 <paradox> another one was this 19 year old kid who was sneaking into peoples houses and stealing their car keys and taking the cars for a joy ride
27:00 <doctor> seems you've found your home. what are you going to do next to end up in the slammer?
27:00 <paradox> doctor, i dunno
27:00 <paradox> doctor, where abouts u live ?
27:00 <doctor> About 5 minutes from you
27:00 <paradox> sweet
27:00 <paradox> come over
28:00 <doctor> why?
28:00 <paradox> I'll show you
28:00 <paradox> lolol
28:00 <doctor> i can already tell i'm not into what you want to 'show' me
28:00 <paradox> doctor, you got any guns ?
29:00 <paradox> lend me them if you want me to do crimes
29:00 <paradox> ill need them
29:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter watch this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sORZnTL1fMo&hd=1
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29:00 <doctor> just smash some windows or something
29:00 <paradox> lol what for
29:00 <paradox> what windows ?
29:00 <doctor> so you can go back to prison
29:00 <paradox> hahaha
29:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> commit some crimes to celebrate getting out of jail
29:00 <paradox> Maybe I did :)
30:00 <doctor> any. goto duncraig primary down the road and smash everything untill the cops arive
30:00 <paradox> loll
30:00 <paradox> nah fuck that\
30:00 <paradox> thats amateur
30:00 <Warren1984> doctor would you agree that money is the way the world works... but is it the way the world should work
30:00 <paradox> oooo
30:00 <paradox> mums home
30:00 <paradox> with smokes
30:00 <doctor> it'll land you back in Hakea
31:00 <doctor> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-05/youth-alleged-gang-raped-in-hakea-prison-while-on-remand/5869586
31:00 <paradox> i know some guy got spit roasted in unit 4
31:00 <paradox> I was like hell mad choppa reid styles in hakea
31:00 <paradox> mad respects
31:00 <doctor> I'm not too worried about the world Warren, it's much bigger than I so there's no point giving myself grief over it
32:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> A male prisoner, Shane McSweeny has been raped by two male inmates at maximum security Hakea Prison in Perth.
32:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> The ABC understands that Shane was on remand and it was the first time he had been to prison. The ABC has been told he had only been in Hakea for about two weeks when the incident occurred.
32:00 <doctor> lol
33:00 <doctor> well, not really funny but occured on november 5
41:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> paradox got a sore arse i take it?
44:00 <LamarcusSkylooter>  David Stratton @DavidStratton9  ·  Dec 1
44:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> Lars Von Trier in rehab, says he may never make movies again - and I'm fresh out of champagne!
44:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> did they use lube?
45:00 <Warren1984> lubetube
46:00 <xm> i think i saw them reviewing antichrist and they hated it
47:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I loved his review for one of von Trier's films, something to do with slavery in America
47:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> it was the 2nd part in a trilogy
48:00 <xm> Amistad?
48:00 <xm> oh wait that was speilberg
48:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> you cut your ears off to prove what a hard man you are
49:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> and David Stratton gave it one star, and said "Let's hope that he decides to leave it as a trilogy of two films.  A trilogy of zero films would have been even better."
49:00 <xm> lol
49:00 <xm> so he's from that dying generation
49:00 <xm> there arent any new critics like him from our generation
49:00 <xm> not that i know of anyway
50:00 <xm> i was watching some Father Barron the other day
50:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> SBS tried to continue a film review show after David and Margaret went to the ABC, and got some JJJ presenters, and they were awful
50:00 <xm> believe it or not i think hes had 10,000,000+ views
50:00 <xm> glorifed MX paper reviewers probably
50:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> they made elementary mistakes about cinema history that David and Margaret would never have
51:00 <doctor> needs more cynicism in our generation to create some critics worthy of reading. not these flimsy social critics of the likes anita sarkeesian and the likes
51:00 <xm> anything you remember right now?
53:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> yes, they said that Robert Wise's film "The Haunting" was a "B film", in reality Robert Wise was one of the main A list directors in the world at the time
53:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> he made The Haunting inbetween West Side Story and The Sound of Music
54:00 <xm> do you like SOund of Music?
54:00 <xm> or is that a silly question
54:00 <xm> i confess to liking it
54:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I like it as I like all films shot on 70mm
56:00 <xm> 35 is the stepdown isnt it?
58:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> 35mm is the standard, 70mm was the HD of the 1950s and 1960s
59:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> it fell into disuse in the 1970s, like people preferring to stick with DVD rather than upgrade to bluray
59:00 <paradox> yep
00:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> there is still a very small and irregular amount of work being done on 70mm, like Kenneth Branaugh's Hamlet, and Malick's "The New World"
02:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> Strum: Mallard, I put it to you that you were the one who bashed the old lady to death with a PVC pipe flute.
04:00 <paradox> Strum gaslighted Mallard
04:00 <paradox> He was the claremont serial killer
05:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter if money is the way the world works, then how can we use it to leave the world a better place?
05:00 <paradox> Warren1984, Like robin hood ?
06:00 <paradox> ok Boss
06:00 <paradox> Yes Boss
08:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> the best thing about money is that it's a sort of a score, so the winners have the highest score (money) and losers have the lowest
09:00 <Warren1984> but that didn't answer my question
10:00 <Warren1984> I want to know how money can improve the world and leave it a better place
10:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> it does
10:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, Like grand theft auto ?
10:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> to make winners feel better about themselves
10:00 <Warren1984> well how?
11:00 <paradox> lol
11:00 <Warren1984> how will they be winners when they die?
11:00 <Warren1984> they leave behind their material possessions
11:00 <Warren1984> and make ungrateful children
12:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> who says they're ungrateful?
12:00 <paradox> How can you be ungrateful for being born
13:00 <paradox> just being alive is a godbless
13:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, I went to church last week
13:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> the prison church?
13:00 <paradox> yer
14:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> did they set you on the straight and narrow?
14:00 <paradox> it was a bit like the church i went to in adelaide at the salvation army
15:00 <paradox> some people can stand up or whatever and say things tell a story about why they're there and you sing along to some of the bible songs and listen to what the people in charge have to say
16:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> what did you think of it all?
17:00 <paradox> its good you know like hard to explain but i like it
17:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> that's good
17:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> maybe it'll turn you around
17:00 <paradox> not to say im religious at all but its good meeting people and like getting together in that way
17:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, I do need to turn my life around
18:00 <Warren1984> http://failingcivilization.com/greed/
18:00 <paradox> hmm
18:00 <paradox> what is that domain name i wonder
19:00 <paradox> Warren1984, is ur TPG static ?
21:00 <Warren1984> Dictators, politicians, corporations and shareholders have all failed us.  We have failed, while the INDIVIDUAL has succeeded.  And if the individual with power is content, then nothing will change.  That is the SITUATION that burdens us today.
21:00 <Warren1984> What problems do we face?
21:00 <Warren1984> Corporate Dominance
21:00 <Warren1984> Depletion of NATURAL Resources
21:00 <Warren1984> Disease
21:00 <Warren1984> FAILING CURRENCIES
21:00 <Warren1984> Failing Education
21:00 <Warren1984> Natural DISASTERS
21:00 <Warren1984> Over Population
21:00 <Warren1984> Pollution
21:00 <Warren1984> Poverty
21:00 <Warren1984> Racism
21:00 <Warren1984> Stupidity
21:00 <Warren1984> Unemployment
21:00 <Warren1984> WAR
22:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> racism is the solution, not the problem
22:00 <Warren1984> how so?
23:00 <DoC> racism isn't the good solution if it is
23:00 <DoC> and i think racism is a problem
23:00 <paradox> LamarcusSkylooter, are you a racist ?
23:00 <DoC> how it could be a solution?
23:00 <Warren1984> what if other races were racist towards us and wanted to kill us all
23:00 <paradox> Warren1984, they're not.
23:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> racism = accepting the scientific reality of racial differences, anti-racism is the ignorant, lying, denial of scientific fact
24:00 <paradox> Try living in another country we actually have it pretty good in Australia
24:00 <Warren1984> but what if Asians considered whites to be inferior and wanted to destory us LamarcusSkylooter
24:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> then fight back
24:00 <Warren1984> and what if we lose
25:00 <Warren1984> in fact we all lose
25:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> if we lose then we prove their proposition true
25:00 <Warren1984> sounds stupid
25:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> if you're not a racist then you're not a man
25:00 <Warren1984> Human civilisation would “collapse” and efforts to tackle global warming will fail unless the world curbs its culture of greed and excessive consumerism, a report has warned.
25:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> no such thing as global warming
26:00 <Warren1984> maybe to you there isn't
26:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> there isn't to anyone
26:00 <Warren1984> but to scientists it is
26:00 <Warren1984> oh ok I didn't realize you had a Phd in environmental science/research
26:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> scientists are not manly, if they were they'd have gone into finance and investment instead of science
27:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> Warren1984, be a manly racist
35:00 <Warren1984> Portrait of an INTJ - The Scientist
42:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> I opened up all my side doors to let fresh air in
43:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ILA5Cso3w
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45:00 <Warren1984> what if your pet farts and it comes through the doors
46:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter you should chase me with your pet, with a whip and get your pet to go to the toilet in the junk mail letter boxes
47:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> why are you obsessed with toilets?
51:00 <Warren1984> because they are filthy
52:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWGDt5CejFk
52:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  How Drones Will Change the World - Full Documentary
53:00 <Warren1984> people who have no junk mail, should be delivered junk in there letter box
53:00 <Warren1984> for the inconvience of not letting us put in the flyers
56:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> rip off the "No Junk Mail" sign and just put the flyers in anyway
56:00 <Warren1984> fighter pilots a job from the past
56:00 <Warren1984> sign it?
57:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter do you like drones
58:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> drones are great
59:00 <DoC> bbl
01:00 <Fitz> Hi
04:00 <Warren1984> I wonder why the drone is not easely destroyed
05:00 <xm> hah American Dad: "India...the birthplace of diarrohea"
05:00 <Fitz> its like athe terminator
05:00 <Fitz> keeps coming back like arnie
06:00 <Fitz> even at 60 he is playing the terminator role
07:00 <paradox> hey Fitz dart
07:00 <paradox> sappenin dard
07:00 <paradox> KGB unna
07:00 <paradox> where KGB at
12:00 <Fitz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7w-XcL2v10
12:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Terminator 5 First Look: Arnold Is Back!
13:00 <paradox> Genesis
16:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2hvYHkI8Uc
16:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Terminator 5 Trailer [HD]
17:00 <paradox> Definately going to see it at the cinemas
17:00 <paradox> with my gf
28:00 <xm> before it seems in America there are states with no sales tax and then there are states where you can have different sales taxes within that state, and there are also different sales taxes depending on what the item is
29:00 <xm> it makes our GST system look more transparent
29:00 <Warren1984> LamarcusSkylooter -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcy_ujH_tE
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30:00 <LamarcusSkylooter> Warren1984, don't watch those
31:00 <paradox> Time
32:00 <paradox> you are reading this somewhere in time 
41:00 <paradox> well im home anyway
41:00 <paradox> not that anyone cares but yes
41:00 <paradox> Rock On.
45:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDRfh2ANoU
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07:00 <Fitz> arnie in terminator 5 will be awesome
08:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knW6eHV3iVQ
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08:00 <Fitz> he will be an old terminator
08:00 <paradox> lol
08:00 <paradox> it comes out next year
09:00 <paradox> NO SPOILERS PLZ
10:00 <Fitz> the movie is about an alternitive timeline
10:00 <paradox> yeh
10:00 <paradox> im going to see it at the cinemas
10:00 <Fitz> basically a terminator is sent back to protect sarah connor by actually raising her as a child
10:00 <Fitz> and it hangs around
11:00 <paradox> its going to be kick-ass graphics
11:00 <paradox> terminator movies have always been good in my opinion
11:00 <paradox> i like all the terminator movies
11:00 <Fitz> i liked 1 n 2
11:00 <Fitz> 3 was a bit corny
11:00 <paradox> i like them all
11:00 <Fitz> 4 was a POS
11:00 <paradox> yer the newer ones have been a bit corny
11:00 <paradox> maybe this next one will be flash
12:00 <paradox> 1 and 2 were good.
12:00 <paradox> hands down
12:00 <paradox> terminator 2 was good
12:00 <paradox> judgement day
12:00 <Fitz> i like the fact it has arnie in it and goes back to the time of the first n second ones
13:00 <paradox> yeah
13:00 <Fitz> The year is 2029. John Connor, leader of the resistance, continues the war against the machines. At the Los Angeles offensive, John's fears of the unknown future begin to emerge when TECOM spies reveal a new plot by Skynet that will attack him from two fronts, past and future, and will ultimately change warfare forever.
13:00 <Fitz> On the verge of winning the war against Skynet, Connor sends his trusted lieutenant Kyle Reese back through time to save his mother's life and ensure his own existence. But what he finds on the other side is like nothing he ever expected. After being orphaned at age nine by a Terminator, Sarah Connor has been brought up by another Terminator programmed to protect her. This Terminator has then trained her to face her destiny, which she
13:00 <Fitz>  adamantly tries to reject.[3]
14:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB_eQDn9Y1U
14:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Hey Joe
17:00 <Fitz> this black sails series is good
18:00 <Fitz> ps4 is releasing a vr headset, its meant to be pretty awesome
20:00 <paradox> whats black sails
21:00 <paradox> I don't mind Law & Order and Homeland
21:00 <paradox> they are ok to watch
25:00 <Fitz> black sails is about pirates its lke a HBO series, heaps of swearing, viloence and tits n arse
25:00 <Fitz> its set in 1715
26:00 <Fitz> i havent watched law n order in years
26:00 <Fitz> or that csi
26:00 <paradox> did you live law and order ?
26:00 <paradox> like*
26:00 <Fitz> there was a stage there was a CSI for every state in the USA
26:00 <paradox> do you like crime shows ?
26:00 <Fitz> yeah it was alright, had some interesting episodes
26:00 <paradox> Fitz, There is a HBO series called OZ have you heard of it ?
27:00 <Fitz> i like Miami Vice actually the 80's show lol, i have all 5 seasons
27:00 <Fitz> yeah i have Oz
27:00 <paradox> Fitz, I was buying most the dvd's for it too bad they didn't make more of the series
27:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7w49aAaweA
27:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  OZ Intro
27:00 <Fitz> that was a good show, got a bit slow towards the end
27:00 <paradox> used to be on SBS
28:00 <Fitz> i bought a box set of oz from china for like 29 bucks
28:00 <Fitz> yeah i remember seeing it on late at night
28:00 <Fitz> it has 5 seasons
28:00 <Fitz> season 3 has 6 discs and goes forever very slow
28:00 <Fitz> season 4 n 5 get a bit far fetched
28:00 <Fitz> Sopranos is a great series
29:00 <Fitz> funny and always entertaining
29:00 <paradox> ahh yes sopranos was good
29:00 <Fitz> spartacus was good, season 1 n 2 only
29:00 <paradox> yeh
29:00 <paradox> i really got into those shows
29:00 <paradox> used to watch The Pretender 
30:00 <paradox> few other shows too
30:00 <Fitz> miami vice is a good show, very 80's but always action and some good twists in the episodes
30:00 <Fitz> havent heard of the pretender, whats it about?
30:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI9C-zMwWZE
30:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Pretender Season 1 Opening Theme
30:00 <paradox> lollllllll
30:00 <paradox> classic show hey
31:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwA01ECw0sI
31:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Adebisi's death (Season 4, episode 8)
32:00 <Fitz> pretender looks awesome, im gonna download it
33:00 <Fitz> i remeber seeing the adds yrs ago but never knew what it was about
33:00 <Fitz> i never liked that show the wire, couldnt get into it
34:00 <Fitz> and i hated that terminator tv series, it was crapola
35:00 <paradox> I used to watch the pretender on foxtel
41:00 <Fitz> im downloading it
41:00 <Fitz> pirate bay was shutdown today
42:00 <Fitz> kickass torrents is the best now
42:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFxRn1LlvM
42:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Rolling Stones-  Out of Control, Live @ Perth, 1.11.2014
43:00 <Fitz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9L7fq9icBM
43:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Project CARS on PS4 - Can it really deliver the ultimate driving game?
44:00 <DoC> my PC is fucked..
44:00 <Fitz> cool new car game to take on GT and forza
44:00 <Fitz> will work with the VR headset when its out also
49:00 <Fitz> do u have a dog paradox ?
49:00 <paradox> yep
49:00 <paradox> minature pinture
49:00 <Fitz> cool
49:00 <paradox> he was from broome
50:00 <Fitz> does he sleep inside or out?
50:00 <paradox> yup 
50:00 <paradox> he has a dog door to get out
50:00 <Fitz> we have a cavoodle
50:00 <Fitz> he has a dog door aswell
50:00 <Fitz> he likes to hog the bed at night
52:00 <paradox> http://3putt.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/doberman.jpg
52:00 <paradox> thats what mine looks like
52:00 <paradox> but a bit more fat
52:00 <paradox> more hair haha
52:00 <Fitz> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29o1g6x&s=5#.VIh6U75YRcN thats baxter
53:00 <Fitz> he looks cool
53:00 <paradox> ill take a real pic of my dog 
53:00 <paradox> tomorrow maybe
53:00 <paradox> hehe
53:00 <paradox> yer
53:00 <paradox> little dogs are good
53:00 <Fitz> we dont have any kids yet so the missus treats the dog like one lol
53:00 <Fitz> they are very clever
53:00 <paradox> lol yeh thats the way ey
54:00 <paradox> yeh
54:00 <paradox> they sure let you know when someone is knocking on the door
54:00 <paradox> good guard dogs
54:00 <paradox> mine is
54:00 <Fitz> yeah he does laps of the yard and susses out anyone walking past
54:00 <paradox> yeh barks
55:00 <Fitz> mine was trying me on today
55:00 <Fitz> he normally eats all his dinner, but because i was home tonight he took one bite and came and saw me for a treat like he had finished
56:00 <Fitz> he associates me with smackos
57:00 <Fitz> my dog watches TV alot too, he can make out anmals on the telly and will just watch
57:00 <Fitz> he sat through the entire babe movie, just lying on the bed staring at the screen 
58:00 <Fitz> he sometimes runs up to my TV or goes outside behind the tv to try n find the animals in it
59:00 <paradox> im going to start feeding my dog fish hes a carnivore but maybe fish is best for him
59:00 <paradox> if i give him meat and vegtables he eat the meat but leave the vegtables lol
59:00 <Fitz> haha
00:00 <Fitz> we buy bax this stuff called Barf
00:00 <Fitz> its like a mix of fresh meat n other stuff, apparently its good for dogs and can add a cpl years on their life
00:00 <paradox> i showed my dog youtube videos of dogs like him and he was like :O
00:00 <Fitz> but you can only buy it from Petbarn or a vet
00:00 <paradox> Fitz, I used to have 2 dogs but my jack russell got hit by a car
01:00 <Fitz> thats horrible
01:00 <paradox> before those 2 dogs in the 90s i got another jack russell
01:00 <Fitz> id die of something happened to bax
01:00 <paradox> she was called milly
01:00 <paradox> she lived to about 10 but died of cancer
02:00 <paradox> she got a broken foot when my sisters friend stepped on it and got cancer died on the couch in the lounge room
02:00 <paradox> before she died we took her to the vet fuck she was shaking like shit at the vet
02:00 <Fitz> we had a maltese x shitsu called harley, he lived to about 13 and had cancer in his kidney
02:00 <paradox> dogs hate the vet
02:00 <paradox> take a dog to the vet and they shake
02:00 <paradox> yer
02:00 <Fitz> yeah its reallly sad
03:00 <paradox> jack russells are hard to keep in suburban areas they run like fuck out the door have to chase them
03:00 <paradox> this minature pinture doberman i got is obediant
03:00 <paradox> let him out he comes back
03:00 <paradox> if he gets out
03:00 <paradox> we walk him
03:00 <Fitz> harley was teh same, he hadnt eaten for days and there was ntohing they could do, but mum would drive him to the vet in the city and get more pills to keep him alive one more day, when she went out i gave him a big dose of pain killers that put him to sleep
04:00 <Fitz> i just held him till he fell asleep and he didnt wake up the poor thing
04:00 <Fitz> but he was in so much pain and couldnt eat anything
05:00 <Fitz> he would be fast with dobberman in his blod wouldnt he?
05:00 <paradox> yeah i was pretty upset when my jack russell died i got him in 1997 he died in like 2008 or something
05:00 <Fitz> they really are members of the family
05:00 <paradox> yeah
05:00 <paradox> they love pats
05:00 <paradox> and walks
06:00 <Fitz> apparently this barf food the vets recommend say they add 2-3 yrs life in most dogs, but they dont like eating it as much
06:00 <paradox> my dog is a carnivore
06:00 <paradox> only eats meat
06:00 <Fitz> its like these frozen patties of beef
06:00 <paradox> yer
07:00 <Fitz> i defort them and sometimes put some ham in it for him to get him interested
07:00 <paradox> my dog is nearly about 7 or 8
07:00 <paradox> in human years
07:00 <Fitz> bax is only 2
07:00 <paradox> he was found in broome 
07:00 <paradox> he was a homeless dog in broome
07:00 <Fitz> 8 is getting up there
08:00 <Fitz> did u adopt him from a pound?
08:00 <paradox> but I know he is a good dog because he has a shiney coat
08:00 <paradox> Fitz, My sisters friend gave him to us after my jack russell died
08:00 <paradox> because we wanted a dog around the house :)
08:00 <Fitz> apparently the dry biscuits like supercoat etc arnt the best for the dog because of the salt they put in it, dogs love it though
08:00 <paradox> always good to have a dog around the house
09:00 <paradox> hmmm
09:00 <Fitz> yeah i like it cause im away every second week for work so bax can protect the missus and keep her company
10:00 <Fitz> little dogs are nimble n alert, soif anyone comes to the door he knows about it before they knock
10:00 <Fitz> baxter loves going in the pool
11:00 <paradox> i might take mine to the beach
11:00 <Fitz> first day we moved in and i went in the pool, he just raced in after me and you cant keep him out
11:00 <paradox> dog beach
11:00 <Fitz> lol
11:00 <paradox> salt water lol good for him
11:00 <paradox> that'd be awsome
12:00 <paradox> go for a swim with him
12:00 <Fitz> we take bax to the lookout beach and take him off the lead, he loves it
12:00 <paradox> yeah
12:00 <Fitz> yeah i do, he follows me like a shadow in the pool
12:00 <paradox> hehe
12:00 <Fitz> he wont follow anyone else only me
12:00 <Fitz> so i swim under him and pop up on the other side, and he spots me and comes over
13:00 <paradox> haha
13:00 <paradox> can he swim well
13:00 <paradox> like tread water ?
13:00 <Fitz> on the weekend my missus brother came over while i was at work and bax was swimming with him, and when he would pop up out of the water bax would bark n carry on thinking it was me for a second then loose interest lol
14:00 <paradox> i dont think they care who it is
14:00 <Fitz> yeah he swims awesome, he splased at forsst but now he is smooth, he comes over to me then he just circles in paddle mode
14:00 <paradox> they just protect the area theyre in
14:00 <paradox> their not like 
14:00 <paradox> vermin
15:00 <paradox> maybe they have the mind of a 3 year old child
15:00 <paradox> I don't know.
15:00 <Fitz> i fly away for work, but baxter thinks i magically popped out of the pool for a minute and gets excited
15:00 <paradox> hehe
15:00 <Fitz> i worry about cane toads
15:00 <paradox> are you in QLD ?
15:00 <Fitz> yeah
15:00 <Fitz> i hate toads
16:00 <paradox> haha no shit i saw heaps of cane toads when i was in harvey bay
16:00 <paradox> i used to live in QLD i live in Perth now though
16:00 <Fitz> yeah they come out when it rains, you can just squash hundreds of them as you drive the car sometimes when its raining
16:00 <Fitz> oh yeah
16:00 <paradox> yer
17:00 <paradox> theyre pretty annoying
17:00 <Fitz> where in qld did you live?
17:00 <paradox> harvey bay
17:00 <paradox> kedron
17:00 <Fitz> oh yeah
17:00 <paradox> went around noosa etc..
17:00 <Fitz> im in Wellington point
17:00 <Fitz> dads in Bribie Island
17:00 <paradox> dunno where that is 
17:00 <Fitz> its near cleveland in the redland bay
17:00 <paradox> i was going to go to nimbin
18:00 <Fitz> 18km from cbd
18:00 <paradox> harvey bay is like a half hour flight from brisbane airport
18:00 <paradox> torquay
18:00 <paradox> kangaroo island
18:00 <Fitz> iyeah we landed there the other night coming home from work, some lunny bitch smashed her car through the fence and onto brisbane runway
18:00 <paradox> no
18:00 <paradox> fraiser island
19:00 <paradox> thats south australia
19:00 <Fitz> we got turned to hervey bay to refuel
19:00 <paradox> fraiser island you can see from harvey bay
19:00 <Fitz> i havent been to fraiser
19:00 <paradox> neither
19:00 <Fitz> moreton and straddy i have
19:00 <paradox> i might go to fraiser but im gonna take a gun with me
19:00 <paradox> for the dingos
19:00 <Fitz> its pretty remote
19:00 <paradox> dingo
19:00 <Fitz> straddy has roads at least
20:00 <paradox> hmm
20:00 <paradox> u been to torquay ?
20:00 <Fitz> moreton is good because its close as straddy but is more isolated, etc
20:00 <paradox> the beach
20:00 <Fitz> yeah
20:00 <Fitz> i grew up in vic
20:00 <Fitz> lorne
20:00 <Fitz> appollo bay
20:00 <paradox> i was born near ballarat
20:00 <Fitz> oh yeah
20:00 <paradox> ararat
20:00 <Fitz> we went to soverign hill last xmas
20:00 <Fitz> i took the missus because shes from qld
21:00 <Fitz> keilor is where i grew up
21:00 <paradox> wheres that
21:00 <Fitz> tulla airport
21:00 <paradox> vic
21:00 <Fitz> next exit on the calder heading towards bendigo
22:00 <paradox> next place im going is darwin 
22:00 <paradox> never been there
22:00 <Fitz> keilor was actually the halfway point for gold miners travelling to ballarat in the gold rush
22:00 <Fitz> has some very old pubs and buildings
22:00 <paradox> lots of pubs in Australia
22:00 <Fitz> i havent been to darwin, if you like the humidity its alright
23:00 <paradox> i can handle the humidity
23:00 <Fitz> cairns is alright
23:00 <paradox> yeah i heard cairns is good
23:00 <Fitz> but coudlnt live there, its too small
23:00 <Fitz> you would get bored i think
23:00 <Fitz> great if you have a boat i suppose , awesome beaches
24:00 <paradox> yeah
24:00 <Fitz> good mountains on the coast
24:00 <Fitz> some of its lek great ocean road
24:00 <paradox> yeah i got family in townsville
25:00 <Fitz> oh yeah, one of my crew at work lives there, well he is moving to bris atm
25:00 <paradox> yer
26:00 <Fitz> i got him the job with us but its FIFO brisbane only
26:00 <paradox> well im in perth at moment
26:00 <paradox> heh
26:00 <paradox> soaking it up
26:00 <Fitz> so he flys from Moranbah to brisbane, then gets a flight to townsville
26:00 <paradox> soaking up western australia
26:00 <Fitz> i have some friends from WA
26:00 <Fitz> its meant to be a nice place
26:00 <paradox> lots of work on the mines in WA
26:00 <Fitz> good weather etc
26:00 <Fitz> yeah WA is always busy
26:00 <paradox> yeah its ok but you just gotta be careful
27:00 <paradox> well in Perth
27:00 <Fitz> that Gorgon gas project in Barrow island emplys over 5000 alone
27:00 <paradox> yeah
27:00 <paradox> thats probable what im looking at doing
27:00 <Fitz> they are screaming for blokes
27:00 <paradox> i like travelling
27:00 <Fitz> loads of adds but its a high turn around
27:00 <paradox> done a bit but just need to go travelling and have enough cash 
28:00 <Fitz> staff are hot bedding it its so packed accomoodation wise
28:00 <Fitz> ive only been outside australia for work
28:00 <paradox> hire a car maybe
28:00 <Fitz> Russia, Mongolia, Mozambique, South Africa, China
28:00 <Fitz> havent been to the USA ro Japan though
29:00 <Fitz> would like to go to europe for a holiday first up i think
29:00 <paradox> i would learn how to speak japanese before i went there
29:00 <Fitz> google translate
29:00 <Fitz> lol
29:00 <paradox> heh yer
29:00 <paradox> they know you are foreigner
29:00 <Fitz> i hear japan is pretty cool
30:00 <paradox> it is
30:00 <paradox> Tokoyo
30:00 <Fitz> a collegue just got back
30:00 <paradox> go to Tokoyo
30:00 <paradox> party city
30:00 <Fitz> i hear that
30:00 <paradox> its awsome
30:00 <Fitz> bloke i work with was over there for 4 weeks, he was on face book going on tinder dates with the locals lol
30:00 <paradox> the casinos are good overseas too
31:00 <Fitz> vegas is meant to be a site
31:00 <Fitz> brb
31:00 <paradox> hmm
31:00 <paradox> vegas is vegas
33:00 <paradox> I'd probable go to Reno maybe if i was around there but i dont think i'd be visiting there
37:00 <Fitz> i have no ambitions ot really go to the US
38:00 <Fitz> i will one day but it not high up on the list
38:00 <paradox> yeah
39:00 <paradox> im staying in Australia
39:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AgsnjrNLwI
39:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Business - Frankie Meets Sammy
40:00 <Fitz> whats the business
41:00 <Fitz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1o-NWNmQLM
41:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Miami Vice In The Air Tonight Scene Good Quality
44:00 <paradox> Fitz, a movie
44:00 <Fitz> do u have work tomorrow
44:00 <paradox> I gotta go somewhere early in the morning
44:00 <Fitz> ohh okay, i watched the link but havent seen it
45:00 <paradox> im just gonna try get a few hours sleep and come back
45:00 <paradox> im getting a lift there
45:00 <paradox> just gotta go pick some of my stuff up
45:00 <Fitz> ohh okay
45:00 <Fitz> do u have far to go?
45:00 <paradox> half hour drive 
45:00 <paradox> there and back
45:00 <Fitz> thats not bad
45:00 <paradox> im not drivin though
46:00 <paradox> friends taking me
46:00 <Fitz> im gonna take the car for a clean tomorrow
46:00 <paradox> left my wallet at work
46:00 <Fitz> spewin
46:00 <paradox> but i called its in safe hands
46:00 <paradox> get some money out the bank
47:00 <Fitz> i flew home last night
47:00 <paradox> you floated
47:00 <Fitz> so im off until wed
47:00 <paradox> haha
47:00 <Fitz> i wish, there where storms we circled for n hr
47:00 <Fitz> so annoying
48:00 <paradox> Haven't you seen that movie before
48:00 <Fitz> not the business one, no
48:00 <paradox> watch it
48:00 <Fitz> ill download it
48:00 <paradox> nah
48:00 <paradox> the full movie is on youtube
48:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLr5qio5Hs
48:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Business [ Full Movie ]
48:00 <Fitz> im downloading that pretender series you showed me
48:00 <Fitz> ohh nice
49:00 <Fitz> there is fuck all to do at work so i usually download a tv series or something to watch before i crash
50:00 <Fitz> have you ever watched miami vice?
50:00 <Fitz> the tv show
50:00 <paradox> nah
50:00 <paradox> maybe on TV
50:00 <paradox> saw a little bit
50:00 <paradox> i was watching Dexter
50:00 <Fitz> its cool if you like dirty harry style action, 80's music n old supercars
50:00 <paradox> yer
50:00 <paradox> its good when you find a good TV series and get into it
51:00 <Fitz> my missus made me a miami vice borthday cake last month, looked awesome
55:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLr5qio5Hs
55:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Business [ Full Movie ]
05:00 <Fitz> what time are you leaving in the morning
08:00 <Fitz> http://i57.tinypic.com/2agpv14.jpg <-- thats the cake my missus made me
10:00 <Fitz> http://i57.tinypic.com/v5fx1s.jpg <---- thats baxter last weekend
10:00 <Marttin> Lulz
23:00 <DoC> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/12/08/dunham-ignores-media-inquiries-barry-one-scandal - GONE GIRL: Lena Dunham Dodging Hollywood Trade Paper
27:00 <DoC> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jeb-bush-tops-florida-2016-poll-only-one-to-beat-hillary-clinton/article/2557205
27:00 <DoC> if I'd voted in TIME poll, Ida voted either for Putin or Barzani
28:00 <DoC> times person of the year doesnt have to be someone who has done good, its kind of like barbara walters fascinating people.
29:00 <DoC> can be someone who has been an influence or has gotten attention both positive and negative
30:00 <DoC> opens up the doors for what we think are ridiculious choices like taylor swift or ferguson
30:00 <DoC> protesters
31:00 <DoC> usually a republican you hate or laugh at is someone that should be giving positive attention...someone who could be presidentual or leadership material
31:00 <DoC> usually isnt a rino, you would prefer jeb bush over cruz
33:00 <DoC> agrippa lost his grippa
33:00 <DoC> let us laugh together for once lol
33:00 <DoC> http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rick-santorum-is-running-for-president-again--and-says-this-time-will-be-different/2014/12/09/0c955498-7fca-11e4-9f38-95a187e4c1f7_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop
40:00 <DoC> bbs
40:00 <Warren1984> hi all
40:00 <Warren1984> I am so tired I feel like going back to sleep now
40:00 <Warren1984> but it would be irresponsible because I have to work
12:00 <Fitz> hi
17:00 <Fitz> https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/25742789/bare-legged-woman-in-kabul-the-whole-city-is-shocked/
17:00 <Fitz> fucked up country
56:00 <doctor> clearly mentally ill. it's good that afghanistan is making progress, instead of deciding to stone her to death they'll lock her up an insane asylum for the rest of her years
04:00 <Warren1984> hi all
04:00 <xm> hi waz
04:00 <xm> i just logged on too
05:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ so with experience and proper training I wouldn't be likely to chop my finger off with a lawn mower
05:00 <Warren1984> precision timing
05:00 <Warren1984> I just got back from work
14:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ and clip clop are asleep
13:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtHk5nQAgg4
14:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  RAGE TV Show main theme
16:00 <Tigger_> Count de St. Germain revealed the secret of immortality to Adam Weishaupt who founded the Illuminati, they use aging makeup over the years so that nobody realises who they are, then fake their deaths, revert to their youthful look, and go on holiday for a decade, then start over under a new identity
16:00 <Lish> I'm tired 
17:00 <paradox> Sounds like an art bell coast to coast show
17:00 <paradox> Time travelling celebritys
20:00 <paradox> Gary Moore - Still Got The Blues 
24:00 <paradox> Alanis Morissette - You Oughta Know
29:00 <Tigger_> Following the recent auction of James Watson's Nobel Prize medal, the winning bidder will return the medal to Watson. The $4.7 million winning bid was made by Alisher Usmanov, Russia's wealthiest man, a metal and telecommunications tycoon worth $15.8 billion US. In remarks carried by Russian television Tuesday, Usmanov hailed Watson one of the greatest biologists in the history of mankind, and stated that when he learned that Watson was se
29:00 <Tigger_> lling the medal for charity, he decided to purchase it and immediately give it back to him.
29:00 <Tigger_> so James D Watson was effectively paid $4.7 million to be a racist
30:00 <Tigger_> like Donald Serling again
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> that is a true story of epic win
31:00 <IvanTheBastard> we dont pay scientists to actually work on science anymore, its all about being part of the politically correct religion
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> didnt he make comments about there being a proven IQ difference between blacks and whites?
32:00 <IvanTheBastard> everyone is so afraid of offending people... fuck that
34:00 <Tigger_> yes, it was his comments about the low IQ of blacks, and subsequent lack of achievement
34:00 <IvanTheBastard> well that was accepted science until 60-50 years ago
35:00 <Tigger_> it's accepted science now in the actual field of psychometrics, but it's just not allowed to be mentioned outside of specialist publications
36:00 <paradox> sun burnt
38:00 <Tigger_> there's a weird phenomenon where populist science publications keep insisting that science says that there are no racial differences, yet the actual researchers in the various fields that touch upon this keep finding more and more significant differences
39:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5_EBAzIPJM
39:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Rolling Stones - Angie (HQ)
39:00 <bee_girl> Tigger_: Give me a reference 
39:00 <Tigger_> reference to what?
40:00 <bee_girl> Your last statement 
41:00 <Tigger_> well my personal favourite is that Europeans carry Neanderthal DNA, but Sub-Saharan Africans carry none
42:00 <bee_girl> A reference or a link at least 
43:00 <Tigger_> ok, googling
44:00 <Tigger_> http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2014/01/140129-neanderthal-genes-genetics-migration-africa-eurasian-science/
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> bee_girl
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> that there's no differences at all between race?
44:00 <Tigger_> here is one article that mentions it, I didn't read it in full
44:00 <IvanTheBastard> or that there is no difference in significant acheivement?
45:00 <bee_girl> What's that got to do with IQ variations?
45:00 <paradox> Willow Smith - Whip My Hair 
46:00 <Tigger_> in other articles I've read, some modern individuals may have such a high ratio of Neanderthal DNA, combined with gene expression, that it is effectively like having one Neanderthal grandparent
46:00 <bee_girl> Perhaps 
46:00 <Tigger_> bee_girl, oh for IQ, then Charles Murray's and Richard Lynn's research is very comprehensive with regards to IQ and race
47:00 <bee_girl> In which journal do their writings appear 
48:00 <Tigger_> here is the mean IQ of nations ranked from top to bottom: https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/iq-and-the-wealth-of-nations.jpg
48:00 <Tigger_> this was taken from Richard Lynn's book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations"
50:00 <bee_girl> Several negative reviews of the book have been published in the scholarly literature. Susan Barnett and Wendy Williams wrote that "we see an edifice built on layer upon layer of arbitrary assumptions and selective data manipulation. The data on which the entire book is based are of questionable validity and are used in ways that cannot be justified." They also wrote that cross country comparisons are "virtually meaningless."[4]
50:00 <bee_girl> Anyone else?
51:00 <Tigger_> the response to that is that IQ testing is the most repeatable of human measures, someone who scores 80 does not score 160 the next day
52:00 <Tigger_> so certainly not "virtually meaningless"
53:00 <bee_girl> There was widespread criticism for their as serrations and methodologies. 
53:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrZRURcb1cM&list=PLCA32CBD3795580AC
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53:00 <Tigger_> of course, as truth is a bitter pill
53:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> england and america's are too high, can't had such a large mud representation and get such high scores
53:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> *have
54:00 <Tigger_> the data merely explains what we already know from observing reality
54:00 <bee_girl> Cmon Tigger_ you could at least try and do something better than that poor response 
54:00 <Tigger_> bee_girl, it's a fact ok, and positions to the contrary are emotional sentiment
55:00 <bee_girl> In a book review in the Journal of Economic Literature, a journal of the American Economic Association, Thomas J. Nechyba wrote that: "(the book's) sweeping conclusions based on relatively weak statistical evidence and dubious presumptions seem misguided at best and quite dangerous if taken seriously. It is therefore difficult to find much to recommend in this book."[6]
55:00 <bee_girl> "The arguments put forward in the book to justify such (international IQ) comparisons seem at best vague and unconvincing. At worst, passages in the book appear to be biased and unscientific," and concludes that, "the authors fail to present convincing evidence and appear to jump to conclusions." [
55:00 <bee_girl> Need I go on 
56:00 <erlich> Italy would be higher if you cut off the IQs of the southerners
56:00 <Tigger_> notice they only employ hollow rhetoric, and not data to disprove Lynn?
56:00 <bee_girl> For research to be valid and worth repeating it needs to meet certain criteria which this book does not 
57:00 <Tigger_> it is valid, and is highly repeatable
57:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> what do you mean 'worth repeating'?
57:00 <bee_girl> Some criticisms have focused on the limited number of studies upon which the book is based. The IQ figure is based on one study in 34 nations, and two studies in 30 nations. There were actual tests for IQ in 81 nations. In 104 of the world's nations there were no IQ studies at all and IQ was estimated based on IQ in surrounding nations.[2] The limited number of participants in some studies has also been criticized. A test of 108 9- to 
57:00 <bee_girl> 15-year-olds in Barbados, of 50 13- to 16-year-olds in Colombia, of 104 5- to 17-year-olds in Ecuador, of 129 6- to 12-year-olds in Egypt, and of 48 10- to 14-year-olds in Equatorial Guinea, all were taken as measures of national IQ.[3]
58:00 <bee_girl> The review criticizes the principal assertion of the authors that differences in intelligence attributed to genetics account for the gap between rich and poor countries. Berhanu criticized the book as being based in a "racist, sexist, and antihuman" research tradition and alleged that "the low standards of scholarship evident in the book render it largely irrelevant for modern science".[11]
58:00 <Tigger_> yes, I'm sure a more comprehensive IQ study of Equatorial Guinea would reveal the national mean is truly 112
58:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> bee_girl what is your beef?
58:00 <erlich> even if it's interpolating values there's a trend emerging
58:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1iuSmZHcwY
58:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Chain - Fleetwood Mac
58:00 <bee_girl> Poor research 
58:00 <Tigger_> the fact is that all available data supports Lynn's thesis, and no data exists that refutes it
59:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> bee_girl is revealing her low IQ
59:00 <bee_girl> You wouldn't want to read it even if it did 
59:00 <IvanTheBastard> course we would
59:00 <erlich> the greater it can be falisified but still remains the greater we can be confident it is true
59:00 <Tigger_> bee_girl, I can't read something that doesn't exist
59:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> bee_girl is sounding a bit like warren with this rambling
00:00 <IvanTheBastard> if you could find me data driven studies to prove there is no IQ difference between racesi will certainly consider it
00:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> bee_girl what is your ethnicity?
00:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> given that that is the only IQ study being presented we will have to take it as fact
00:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> much more accurate than bee_girl just saying 'its wrong'
00:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> lol
01:00 <Tigger_> Jason Molloy has conducted more comprehensive studies of Asian IQ, but his findings are actually less optimistic than Lynn's with regards to central and southern Asia
02:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> bee_girl if you are black just say so
02:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> no judgements
02:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> obama apparently has a high iq, maybe you do too
02:00 <bee_girl> I'm not going to repeat myself again I'm just highlighting the research is clearly flawed to anyone who knows anything about research and I've stated why previously.  
03:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> it's the best guide we have though
03:00 <erlich> why is it that identical twins when separated from birth have a near perfect correlation when scored?
03:00 <Tigger_> so "flawed research" means it must be the opposite?
03:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> it would be stupid not to use it as a base going forward
04:00 <Tigger_> and it's really that Japan's mean IQ is 70, while Africa's mean IQ is 105?
04:00 <erlich> it was around 0.85-0.9
06:00 <bee_girl> http://vimeo.com/30973003
07:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> just looking at the research it's hard to understand why those ebola workers would go risk their lives for sub-humans
07:00 <Tigger_> MY I.Q. by Ani DiFranco
07:00 <bee_girl> Sub humans?
07:00 <Tigger_> brettingham1boshMVP, so their photo can get 45 likes on Facebook
07:00 <erlich> For example, the Neanderthal version of the skin gene POU2F3 is found in around 66 percent of East Asians, while the Neanderthal version of BNC2, which affects skin color, among other traits, is found in 70 percent of Europeans.
08:00 <erlich> i didnt know East Asians had Neanderthal DNA
08:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> sub humans
08:00 <Tigger_> yes, but it's more recessive in Asians
08:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLr5qio5Hs
08:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Business [ Full Movie ]
08:00 <erlich> it reminds me of the Rafonda site when they say Eurasia
09:00 <erlich> but im not too sure how many large unis subscribe to that alternative
09:00 <Tigger_> I think I read that Asians had 11 alleles for hair colour, all black
10:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> bee_girl are you a sub human?
10:00 <Ethanol> mud = sub human
11:00 <Tigger_> even though Neanderthals never lived in Asia, genetic drift was probably reasonably high across the central asian steppes, in contrast the Sahara Desert was a basically impassable barrier for genetic drift between Europe and Africa
13:00 <paradox> `unban all
14:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLr5qio5Hs
14:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The Business [ Full Movie ]
21:00 <DoC> Democrat party's open treason against America will cost American lives?
27:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> paradox why don't you just download a HD version to your usb stick?
27:00 <paradox> iso ?
27:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> of the movie
29:00 <paradox> what movie
29:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> ...
30:00 <DoC> Going Nuclear: Russia and India agree to build 12 nuclear power reactors by 2035 - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Trendolizer/~3/8WuUYeZKTMQ/going-nuclear-russia-and-india-agree-to-build-12-nuclear-power-reactors-by-2035.html
31:00 <Tigger_> India was where Enron got stuck, building power plants in a country that couldn't afford the electricity
31:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> 12 isn't many
32:00 <Tigger_> how they will go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabhol_Power_Station
32:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> if the greenies were serious they would want nuclear power plants everywhere
32:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> but they are just fake greenies that want windmills everywhere
34:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> putting up the price is a good idea in exchange for less air pollution
35:00 <Tigger_> a union superfund can ethically invest in the wind generators
47:00 <paradox> hi bee_girl 
47:00 <bee_girl> Hi paradox 
50:00 <paradox> Coolio - Gangster's Paradise 
52:00 <Tigger_> the most interesting thing I've learned today, that 'face', as in saving face and losing face, is a Chinese concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_%28sociological_concept%29
52:00 <Tigger_> it makes perfect sense
52:00 <paradox> ;/
53:00 <paradox> Tigger_, How big is your #pd mirc log file now ?
53:00 <Tigger_> 14.3Gb
53:00 <paradox> ROFL
53:00 <paradox> for real
54:00 <paradox> I want that text file :)
54:00 <paradox> .txt ?
54:00 <Tigger_> why?
54:00 <paradox> search for me
54:00 <paradox> stuff i said
54:00 <paradox> years ago
54:00 <Tigger_> half of it is probably your floods
57:00 <paradox> not half the text file
57:00 <paradox> i didn't flood at all
57:00 <paradox> TI lol
06:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> i have PIGGED DOWN 1.25l of pepsi max today
07:00 <Tigger_> that all?
07:00 <Tigger_> 0 calories
07:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvmyTZEqlo8
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08:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> it's mostly water and 0 calories
09:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1AiypRfTfc
09:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Tom Jones - Sexbomb
12:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYK9iCRb7S4
12:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  By the Rivers of Babylon ( with lyrics)
15:00 <DoC> The Democrat Party put out a report saying the CIA tortured terrorists that killed 3000 Americans, but to keep it in perspective, the Democrat party also said you could keep your plan, you could keep your doctor, it was two rogue agents, it was the video, Romney is a murderer, Bush was behind 9/11
16:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtCittJyr0
16:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Talking Heads - "Road To Nowhere"
18:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDHJu62X7ww
18:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  inxs - suicide blonde (1990)
19:00 <Tigger_> I've been browsing through the wiki entries and websites of various Greens politicians, they're nearly all divorced or never married
20:00 <Tigger_> or homos
21:00 <Tigger_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Rice
21:00 <Tigger_> this one is particularly interesting, her climate scientist (lol) husband decided to become a woman, so she became a lesbian to continue the marriage
22:00 <erlich> LOL
22:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc5QCJB3fOc
22:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Inxs - Devil inside
22:00 <erlich> that sounds very Californian
24:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi80xk8NSIQ
24:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Simply Red /Fairground
25:00 <Tigger_> this is the only one that I can identify that got married once, and remains married to this day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Wright
26:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG07WSu7Q9w
26:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Simply Red - Holding Back The Years
26:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cliffs,_Victoria
26:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> look where she is from
27:00 <brettingham1boshMVP> At the 2006 census, Red Cliffs had a population of 4596.
29:00 <Tigger_> so she has a streak of social conservatism remaining from her rural upbringing
30:00 <Tigger_> Sarah Hanson Young divorced her husband: http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/11/11/1226193/102585-sarah-hanson-young-and-family.jpg
36:00 <erlich> have any of you heard of "MEgaBuy" (LD computer shop)
36:00 <erlich> QLD*
36:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMC4wyiajMo
36:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Scientology hard at work
37:00 <Tigger_> yes, but never used Megabuy
37:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMC4wyiajMo
37:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  Scientology hard at work
37:00 <Tigger_> they are online only, no retail outlet
37:00 <erlich> whats the Brisbane postcode again
37:00 <erlich> yes, i want to test the shipment
38:00 <erlich> because the postage is exp to wa
38:00 <erlich> i want to know if this is some quasi-scam
38:00 <Tigger_> they're not a scam
38:00 <erlich> ok
38:00 <Tigger_> there should be a postage estimator on the individual product pages
38:00 <erlich> if i buy something off them it ends up being $10-$15 cheaper
38:00 <erlich> yeah there is
39:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIy5hfgYxrA
39:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube  The secrets of Scientology (Full Documentary)
39:00 <erlich> postage for the s/w is $15.95
39:00 <erlich> same if QLD
39:00 <paradox> 10 bux mate
41:00 <Tigger_> my theory on Amazon shipping is that they have an annual contract with their delivery services that they pay a flat fee, and then only try and claw it back from customers later, but quietly waiver all delivery fees for their best customers
42:00 <paradox> they ship with UPS
42:00 <paradox> amazon is probably the best site on the internet to order stuff off
43:00 <paradox> I think they have a policy of what they can ship
43:00 <paradox> Im pretty sure they only ship cd's and books overseas I don't think they ship clothing and other goods
43:00 <paradox> they have shipping policys
44:00 <Tigger_> they'll ship anything that they sell themselves, but not for products on the hosted shops on the Amazon site
44:00 <paradox> Amazon won't ship electronics goods or clothes 
44:00 <paradox> overseas
44:00 <Tigger_> yes they will
44:00 <paradox> hmm
44:00 <Tigger_> people buy SSDs off Amazon all the time to send to Australia
45:00 <paradox> maybe they do now
45:00 <erlich> ive bought electronics off Amazon before
45:00 <paradox> u have bought clothes off amazon ?
45:00 <paradox> electronic goods
45:00 <erlich> you can even buy milk off Amazon'
45:00 <erlich> search for Tuscan Milk
45:00 <paradox> Tigger_, Try this site http://www.keepshooting.com/
46:00 <Tigger_> I'd like some nightvision goggles
47:00 <paradox> http://www.keepshooting.com/trumark-folding-fs-1-slingshot.html
48:00 <paradox> http://www.keepshooting.com/garant-protection-ballistic-vest.html
49:00 <Tigger_> warren wanted a slingshot to go on a bird killing spree
49:00 <paradox> Tigger_, You can get them off that site
49:00 <paradox> they will ship to Australia
49:00 <paradox> I have ordered from them before
49:00 <paradox> I got it sent to a PO BOX
50:00 <Tigger_> whose PO Box?
50:00 <erlich> i just disconnected my wifi and reconnected and im still here
50:00 <erlich> did it show any ping oput?
50:00 <paradox> Tigger_, mine
50:00 <erlich> looks like i got in before a ping request
51:00 <Tigger_> erlich, no
51:00 <Tigger_> Shane, then it's still trackable to you
51:00 <Tigger_> you need to buy with bitcoin, and send it to a drop off point
53:00 <paradox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQpO3H-dacE
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