// #marryatvillehs — 2006-11-08
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11:12:52 <ash_> hey all
11:15:05 <Timegrinder> sup
11:25:07 <ash_> do you happen to be good at css?
11:29:03 <Timegrinder> I'm alright with it, don't know what 'good'would be considered as
11:34:09 <damian> ooerr, dey gawna dieee biattchezzz
11:34:37 <damian> i've been ripped about $200 off my pay!
11:36:31 <ash_> hey damian
11:39:39 <damian> hi
11:39:43 <damian> give me $200 !
11:40:15 <ash_> help me with this css !
11:42:16 <ash_> http://nbsa-dev.netspot.com.au/
11:42:26 <ash_> see how you can hover over those menus
11:42:45 <ash_> the menu is getting cut off by the table, as you can see if you go over the "links" menu
11:42:53 <ash_> it's not going over top of the table outside it
11:43:01 <ash_> any idea how to make it go over the edge?
11:44:11 <ash_> as another example, check out the "education" menu, if you open up a submenu it gets cut off
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11:51:56 <Timegrinder> have you used z-indices?
11:52:21 <ash_> yeah i played around with that but it didn't change anything
11:52:31 <ash_> i tried putting it in the ul and li styles
11:53:21 <ash_> damn this shite
11:53:39 <ash_> normally i only do the back end, but our web developer is on a beach in thailand right now
11:53:57 <ash_> and there's this random css bug :o
11:56:25 <Timegrinder> did you try setting the entire nav bar element to be above the main body and then the main body above the background table?
11:56:40 <Timegrinder> eg, table = -1, body 0, navbar 1?
11:57:22 <Timegrinder> cause I think as long as the table's set to something below the main body everything else should work itself out, though I haven't looked at how embedded it is yet :9
11:57:52 <ash_> yeah
11:58:07 <ash_> i was reading that if the parent object has a lower zindex then it will still go underneath
11:58:24 <Timegrinder> ah okay, that's pretty fucked
11:58:26 <Timegrinder> but I don't use parent/child objects at that level
11:58:33 <Timegrinder> I have everything above the main background
11:58:41 <Timegrinder> but then, I've never gotten a menu like that to work :p
11:58:48 <ash_> but i jsut found a line in the main table "overflow:hidden;"
11:59:01 <Timegrinder> yeah, that's for scrolling stuff
11:59:14 <ash_> that fixes the problem but kind of fucks up the way the table looks :p but i think that might be the way to go
11:59:17 <Timegrinder> it might work for side-scrolling stuff as well
11:59:19 <damian> wat u trippin' on
11:59:42 <Timegrinder> haha
11:59:44 <Timegrinder> did it fuck the background?
11:59:54 <damian> there's no problem with that website on Oper/IE :/
11:59:55 <damian> a
12:00:08 <Timegrinder> hover over the links button
12:00:13 <Timegrinder> the popup menu gets CUToff :P
12:00:19 <damian> not for i..
12:00:56 <Timegrinder> holy shit
12:00:57 <ash_> the education menu is a better example
12:00:59 <damian> http://local.damian.id.au/tmp/cutoff.png
12:01:03 <Timegrinder> oh yeah but he's fixed it alreadyt :P
12:01:08 <Timegrinder> it doesn't in my IE either
12:01:13 <ash_> yeah its actually better now
12:01:22 <ash_> except now i think i have to set background colours on all the other tables
12:01:31 <Timegrinder> yeah
12:01:34 <Timegrinder> that's probably all it is
12:01:49 <damian> am i just not seeing it, or is it not happening on that image up there ^^ ? :P
12:01:51 <Timegrinder> I'll have to keep in mind if I ever run into that problem its 'overflow: visible;' or whatever
12:01:59 <Timegrinder> It's not happening anymore :P
12:02:01 <ash_> yours browser shows it how i want it to look :p
12:02:08 <Timegrinder> my firefox does now too
12:02:14 <Timegrinder> just the backgrounds got fucked
12:02:16 <ash_> yeah
12:02:32 <Timegrinder> Glad we could be of no help!
12:03:02 <ash_> lol nah thats good, it resulted in progress, thanks :>
12:03:12 <damian> you all crazeh
12:03:16 <ash_> i was at a dead end
12:03:34 <damian> now give me $200
12:03:43 <Timegrinder> hahaha
12:06:20 <ash_> tell your work to give you your $200 :P
12:11:47 <damian> yeah, but that's harder to do than telling you to give me $200
12:11:52 <damian> because i have to fill in forms and crap at work :P
12:11:56 <Timegrinder> yeah, sice you've already done that
12:12:01 <Timegrinder> as if you haveto fill in forms
12:12:04 <Timegrinder> that sucks
12:12:08 <Timegrinder> when I worked93 586 842 246
12:12:10 <Timegrinder> ...ignore that
12:12:26 <Timegrinder> very time I've been shortchanged I just bitch at my boss (in previous jobs) and I get the extra money
12:23:09 <damian> yuh, but where were you working
12:25:23 <ash_> he was cleaning toilets
12:25:25 <ash_> toilets that old people had shat all over
12:25:32 <Timegrinder> nah
12:25:35 <Timegrinder> well, that was one job
12:25:43 <Timegrinder> and it was cleaning resident area's at a nursing home
12:25:43 <damian> lol
12:25:45 <Timegrinder> the other was stock monkey at coles
12:25:56 <damian> yuh, our payments come from the head office, it's not like i can threaten the boss to pay me :P
12:26:06 <Timegrinder> I didn't threaten anyone
12:26:12 <Timegrinder> and as far as I know, coles comes from head office too
12:26:17 <Timegrinder> there's just pre and post processing at the store
12:26:33 <ash_> damo you work at harvey norman yeah?
12:26:50 <damian> nah, BigW
12:30:52 <ash_> now that damn background colour issue is proving to be difficult
12:31:22 <ash_> i think the grey parts have no cell there, so for some reason they're transparent when the "overflow:visible" is set
12:31:39 <ash_> Far Q
12:36:48 <damian> i think you crazy mofo
12:36:54 <damian> so i'm going to have a shower
13:05:36 <ash_> woot, all good now
13:29:01 <Carson> z-index: 100;
13:29:10 <Carson> thats what i've got, and it appears to work
13:29:17 <Carson> i think the higher the z-index the better...
13:30:31 <ash_> the problem was that the main table had "overflow:hidden" set, so it cut off everything that went outside of it
13:32:38 <ash_> i think css is pretty cool, but it seems to have a bit of a learning curve, and its not standard across browsers as i just witnessed
13:32:48 <Carson> thats true
13:33:04 <Carson> i've been using it as my layout thing now instead of tables etc, and once you get started its pretty good
13:33:32 <Timegrinder> yeah
13:33:38 <Timegrinder> untabled unframed CSS is pretty frigging neat
13:33:44 <Timegrinder> it's a bitch to make work properly though
13:34:25 <Timegrinder> I keep encountering the same issue with having multiple menu objects and the central body resizes itself regardless of what you set it to
13:34:33 <Timegrinder> so the content and scrolling is really screwed up
13:34:44 <Timegrinder> by 'central body' I mean the body element
13:34:51 <Timegrinder> I forgot what the damn things are called now
13:37:14 <ash_> yah
13:37:37 <ash_> that site i linked uses php to generate the style sheet
13:38:14 <ash_> eg. <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/banner.css?path=/about_vision.html">
13:38:28 <ash_> so it has some custom colours etc just for that page
13:39:00 <ash_> and the navigation menus and right side menus are all generated from an xml file, so its pretty neat altogether
13:40:30 <ash_> http://nbsa-dev.netspot.com.au/navigation.xml
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14:11:18 <damian> not a bad set up
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15:35:40 <JarZ> heya
15:40:43 <ash_> ey
15:43:07 <JarZ> sup?
15:43:18 <ash_> @ work
15:43:51 <JarZ> yah
15:43:58 <ash_> and waiting on hold for chariot, for ages
15:44:29 <JarZ> haha, yeah they'll do that
15:46:32 <ash_> i wanted for ages and eventually got through to a first level helpdesk guy, and then he said he'd transfer me to one of the admins and now i'm waiting in the queue for ages again
15:46:41 <ash_> wanted=waited
15:47:02 <JarZ> haha lame
15:47:31 <JarZ> to completely change the topic
15:47:40 <JarZ> i found out that my car hits 180km/h quite easily ;D
15:47:44 <ash_> lol
15:47:48 <ash_> what road did you go down?
15:48:00 <JarZ> um some random really bumpy road near murray bridge
15:48:06 <ash_> lol
15:48:11 <ash_> what does your speedo go up to?
15:48:15 <JarZ> 220
15:48:31 <JarZ> i think it may be electronically limited for some reason... i hit 180 and the revs just died off really badly.. i thought i'd fucked something up in the engine
15:48:37 <JarZ> but it was still fine
15:49:02 <JarZ> but maybe it was just cos the road sucked
15:49:19 <ash_> lol
15:49:24 <ash_> yeah that's pretty fast to be going down a bumpy road
15:49:33 <JarZ> it's pretty fast to be going down any road
15:49:34 <JarZ> lol
15:49:39 <JarZ> it was awesome fun though
15:49:46 <JarZ> also drifting on dirt roads is awesome
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15:50:52 <JarZ> eya anthony
15:50:57 <ash_> going down portrush at 200 would be cool
15:51:05 <JarZ> akimbo_joe1; how fast did you come back down the freeway?
15:51:05 <ash_> if the whole road and all intersecting roads were clear
15:51:30 <JarZ> ash_; i got bored on glen osmond road before we hit the freeway, and hit 100
15:51:30 <JarZ> lol
15:51:35 <akimbo_joe1> we just cruised back at about 120-140
15:51:41 <JarZ> ah
15:51:53 <JarZ> i was doing 140-160... until i almsot fell asleep at the wheel
15:51:58 <JarZ> so i put cruise control on at 110
15:52:09 <JarZ> cruise control is so awesome
15:55:32 <Taliesin> cruis control sucks donkey schlong
15:56:26 <JarZ> nah it really doesn't
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16:01:59 <ash_> de la cruz
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16:45:26 <ash_> roflmao @ hot stupid chariot are
16:45:36 <ash_> *how
17:19:09 <JarZ> what happened?
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17:25:03 <ash_> it's a fairly long story involving them being really retarded
17:25:19 <ash_> and i just realised that chariot would be incredibly easy to haxor
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17:43:34 <ash_> andrew: lemme use your ftp account to pwnz them :P
17:47:26 <ash_> k going home now seeya
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23:04:30 <JarZ> hiya
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