// #eevblog — 2018-11-29
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00:34:26 <hatsunearu> T3sl4: what happened to this server
00:34:35 <hatsunearu> why did the server move
00:34:47 <hatsunearu> https://imgur.com/a/vu5lfCM
00:34:52 <hatsunearu> also what is the units for this graph
00:35:26 <hatsunearu> like
00:35:28 <hatsunearu> if it's PSD
00:35:37 <hatsunearu> surely a sinusoid has infinite value
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00:37:35 <hatsunearu> :( ded
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01:15:57 * Ampera harasses Halcyon
01:16:04 <Ampera> shhh, don't tell damian
01:17:33 <Ampera> for who I have a question, is it possible to disable join/quit messages in this channel, se we don't get the massive amount of spam from it?
01:19:52 <Lartza> In your client
01:20:29 <Ampera> No, I'd want to disable it for the entire room, so nobody sees it, not just me.
01:20:34 <Ampera> I'm just curious.
01:20:46 <Lartza> I don't think that's desirable or possible :)
01:21:09 <Ampera> Why isn't it desirable? It prevents people like Chipster from spamming the channel
01:21:28 <Lartza> Because you wouldn't be able to tell when someone drops out?
01:22:00 <Lartza> The common solution is to ban users with "fix your connection" but depending on the network that message can get a bit lost
01:22:26 <Ampera> Just look at the user list that most clients have built in.
01:23:04 <Lartza> That only works for small channels like this and even then is more of a pita than just seeing the part message when someone drops out mid conversation
01:23:09 <Ampera> Anyways, that's what I've been doing, it's just that people still drop in and out a few times, enough to be slightly annoying, but not enough to warrant banning,
01:23:15 <Ampera> The question was more out of curiosity than anything.
01:23:48 <Lartza> It happens :P People who don't like to see them can disable joins/parts per channel or globally in their client. I'm guessing an ircd can disable the messages for everyone on every channel ever but
01:24:47 <Lartza> Gotta admit I've never bumped into anyone wanting to disable them as a chanop but I can't find a way to do that now that I tried searching
01:25:19 <Ampera> t'was just a passing thought.
01:25:28 <Lartza> Yeah it's not the craziest idea ever
01:25:29 <Ampera> I'd get approval from other people before I'd do anything.
01:25:37 <Lartza> https://xkcd.com/1172/
01:26:57 <Ampera> Yes, but the question is how many workflows does a change break to warrant an option to disable it, or for it to be scrapped
01:27:23 <Lartza> ;)
01:27:51 <Ampera> Anyways, I'm just over here laughing at how hard it is for Halcyon to set up a ZNC.
01:28:05 <Lartza> Hehe
01:28:29 <Ampera> it took me 10 minutes, so I'm gonna set up an Arch VM, if he'll use it or not, to see if I can do it again.
01:28:41 <Lartza> I just had to find a decent server which wasn't super easy despite AustNet claiming "Here, at AustNet, our servers are geographically located throughout the world to maximise our user experience and ensure stability with minimal latency."
01:28:55 <Lartza> minimal latency for me currently is 228ms :P
01:29:13 <Ampera> Then again, it's text.
01:29:21 <Lartza> Yeah it's not too bad for IRC
01:29:29 <Ampera> We're not playing CS:GO, or even doing live video conferencing.
01:29:31 <Lartza> And the AU servers were even worse at 330
01:29:42 <Ampera> I'd say even say 1000ms is acceptable
01:29:55 <Lartza> 1000 starts to probably be on the range of noticeable on IRC
01:30:18 <Ampera> I actually have no clue what my latency is, because HexChat reports the latency to my ZNC
01:30:38 <Ampera> which is probably in the singular milisecond range
01:30:45 <Lartza> I pinged the servers from my ZNC server when I decided one
01:31:00 <Lartza> Since I knew they'd all be fairly bad so wanted the best case
01:31:17 <Lartza> Lucky you, I have 17ms to my server :P
01:31:34 <Ampera> Well my server is upstairs on a wired connection with a very nice router.
01:31:58 <Ampera> although it is on a horrid snake of like 5-6 switches between here and there
01:31:58 <Lartza> Yeah datacenter 180km away for me
01:32:14 <Ampera> not counting the router
01:32:27 <Lartza> Sssss
01:32:41 <Lartza> Could probably be worse too :D
01:33:13 <Lartza> Everything needing a wire nowadays and if you happened to have a rack at home or something
01:33:16 <Ampera> Our network setup is interesting to say the least, probably more complicated than the average home network
01:33:27 <Ampera> No, I'm a guy sadly.
01:35:00 <Lartza> Hehe
01:37:15 <Ampera> Damn, 8 seconds to download Arch Linux
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02:06:45 <Ampera> Arch is being quite difficult, but I think I've figured out how to make it not be stupid.
02:13:49 <Lartza> lol, Arch is my go-to distro since quite some years now
02:13:57 <Lartza> What is stupid? :P
02:14:14 <Ampera> Arch is my go-to distro, but VMWare for whatever reason has issues booting it.
02:14:33 <Ampera> I'm going to see if I can do something crazy with it, though. I'm not letting some shitty hypervisor stop me.
02:15:08 <Lartza> I don't think I've ever had issues with vmware, only virtualbox
02:15:31 <Ampera> Neither have I, but it refuses to mount the root partition after the bootloader runs in both BIOS and UEFI modes
02:16:16 <Ampera> So I'm just going to use my present Arch install to install another copy of Arch onto a flash drive, see if I can boot from that, and either use that to install Arch, or just copy the entire contents of the flash drive over.
02:16:58 <Ampera> need to reboot, don't say anything
02:17:45 <Ampera> am back
02:19:08 <Lartza> Welcome back
02:20:13 <Ampera> I'm using a similar method to how I installed Arch Linux on my tablet, in which I use Arch to install Arch onto another device, but this time it's to replace the broken normal install media
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05:10:05 <MCJ> Hello, wonde4ing when a new batch of uCurrent Gold will be ready for vendors like Welectron.com, who I have purchased one through about 5 weeks ago?
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06:22:13 <Halcyon> Morning Ampera
06:22:24 <Ampera> morning
06:22:24 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
06:22:40 <Ampera> How did you get the issue with booting into the Arch install environment fixed on ESXi?
06:22:51 <Ampera> I have the exact same issue, and I've never had it before, and I can't for the life of me figure out why.
06:23:12 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
06:23:28 <Halcyon> I gave up, ended up going with Ubuntu
06:23:32 <Halcyon> That seems to work with ZNC
06:23:42 <Ampera> alright, so it works?
06:23:44 <Ampera> good
06:23:51 <Halcyon> Yes
06:23:57 <Halcyon> No idea why the others didn't
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06:27:44 <Ampera> I'm trying to print bus and train tickets, but our main printer I can network into is low on toner
06:27:54 <Ampera> so I'm hooking up my dot matrix printer, in hope it will work
06:29:12 <Halcyon> Hehehe
06:29:20 <Halcyon> I need to crack mine out
06:29:26 <Halcyon> It needs a ribbon though
06:29:27 <Ampera> This printer doesn't like Wankee voltage, so I need a step up transformer
06:29:38 <Ampera> I have like 4 ribbons for this printer, and they sell for 7 bucks a pop.
06:29:47 <Ampera> I should probably stock up on them while they go that cheap
06:30:29 <Halcyon> Mines a Commodore printer, I need to find the ribbon cartridge to fit it, then I can re-fill it with whatever
06:30:50 <Ampera> Mine is a quite nice Epson LQ-570+
06:30:54 <Halcyon> Oh nice :)
06:30:57 <Halcyon> Fond memories of those
06:31:02 <Ampera> Centronics compatible, it also works on my Commodore 64/128 with an adapter
06:32:10 <Halcyon> Anyway I need to get ready for work. Talk soon.
06:32:18 <Ampera> Going down while I install a parallell card
06:32:19 <Ampera> ciao
06:32:24 * Halcyon scratches steve30 behind the ear on the way out
06:32:31 <steve30> :)
06:32:52 <Halcyon> Also, Steve: Verify your operator status
06:32:55 <Halcyon> It's still pending
06:35:12 <steve30> I don't know how to do that
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06:38:50 <damian> HELLO FRIENDS
07:04:04 <Ampera> I hope you're happy, Halcyon, in the process of trying to install Arch into a VM for you, I ended up killing my host install's bootloader
07:04:31 <Ampera> so I had to download and write a USB stick image for Arch off my tablet, with its dead slow wlan
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07:08:03 <Guest|85276> hello there! anybody here?
07:08:11 <Ampera> No, I'm not here.
07:08:48 <Guest|85276> thought it's dead
07:08:58 <Guest|85276> nice
07:09:33 <Ampera> No, we're reasonably active, just not all the time.
07:10:36 <Guest|85276> yeah, good to hear it
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08:09:13 <Ampera> Ahhhh, the scream of a dot matrix printer
08:09:20 <Ampera> It's cancer to the ears.
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09:17:11 <DHess_US> One thing I always liked using my dot matrix printer for is printing hard on thick paper to make folding diagrams for 3D mockups or sometimes for air guides.
09:17:59 <DHess_US> Can't do that with inkject or laser printers.
10:00:55 <Ampera> Yeah, I can print straight onto cardstock if I wanted to.
10:21:34 <DHess_US> The idea is that if you print the fold line hard using a dot matrix printer, then the paper or card stock folds perfectly into 3D shapes.
13:43:14 <DHess_US> The US South could give Australia a run for its money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po2RGPkXhIw
14:33:56 <DHess_US> I cannot help chuckling everytime I come across this. http://hexapodia.com/
18:11:56 <Ampera> lol
18:12:08 <Ampera> we actually have snakes and poison ivy up here
18:12:12 <Ampera> not so many snakes, but still poison ivy
18:12:29 <Ampera> It'll give you a bit of a rash, but unless you're seriously allergic to it, it's not that bad,
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19:28:46 <Halcyon> Evening all
19:28:53 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/1izBtwp.jpg
19:29:13 <Halcyon> Charming :P
19:29:31 <Halcyon> I thought celery was mostly water?
19:29:41 <T3sl4> no YOU'RE a bag of mostly water
19:30:02 * Ampera hits Halcyon
19:30:21 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37eqB_so_E
19:30:24 <Halcyon> Fibre my ass. It has 1.6g/100g fibre
19:30:35 <Halcyon> And bugger all vitamins, although it's quite rice in K
19:30:36 <Ampera> for whatever strange reason I can't stop watching this video.
19:30:40 <T3sl4> yeah and it has 200g/100g of water
19:30:41 <Ampera> I love Fibre.
19:30:46 <Halcyon> :P
19:30:54 <Halcyon> *grumbles at Ampera*
19:30:56 <Ampera> All 940/880 of it
19:31:13 <Halcyon> You're still on the Westinghouse sign
19:31:17 <Halcyon> You weirdo Ampera :P
19:31:33 <Ampera> I can't stop fucking looking at it, I don't know what's wrong with me
19:33:56 <Halcyon> I told you, you're a weirdo
19:34:17 <Ampera> I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU, ALRIGHT?
19:34:47 <Halcyon> :P
19:35:02 <Halcyon> Meanwhile I'm paying bills. Yay! Fun >:(
19:35:11 <Ampera> hey at least you have money to pay bills
19:35:22 <Ampera> while I have bills stacking up and no money to pay any of them :P
19:36:50 <Halcyon> Yes, but your bills are for things you want. I have to pay water, gas, electricity, council rates etc...
19:37:22 <Halcyon> Just paid $550 for a quarter-year's worth of electricity
19:38:04 <Halcyon> Fucking bullshit, we should have nuclear here.
19:38:20 <Ampera> My bills are for shit like making up for the government being dysfunctional with their education system, registering and insuring an out of state car
19:38:35 <Ampera> come to US, energy is dirt cheap
19:38:37 <Halcyon> Ahh yes, well cars are a money pit
19:38:56 <Halcyon> Unfortunately, I need a car, every day.
19:39:21 <Ampera> Average residential electrical rate in Schenectady is .1174 USD/kWh
19:39:36 <Halcyon> That's about half what I pay
19:39:42 <Halcyon> Obviously not taking into account conversion
19:39:56 <Halcyon> Actually, not quite half
19:40:11 <Halcyon> I pay about USD$0.17/kWh
19:40:35 <Ampera> that's just a random rate off a website, mind you.
19:40:40 <Ampera> I don't actually know how much we pay.
19:40:49 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm in on the cheapest plan that exists
19:40:55 <Ampera> but our gas is cheap.
19:41:00 <Halcyon> Yeh gas is cheap
19:41:12 <Halcyon> I think a quarterly gas bill for us is about AUD$200
19:41:16 <Ampera> it's hovered around 2.50 per ~4l
19:41:20 <Halcyon> And half of that is just supply charges
19:41:28 <Halcyon> Oh you mean petrol
19:41:31 <Ampera> yes.
19:41:33 <Halcyon> Not gas you retard :P
19:41:38 <Ampera> gasoline
19:41:52 <Halcyon> Still, gas is gas. Gasoline is not gas.
19:42:11 <Ampera> ass is ass
19:42:13 <Ampera> gas is ass
19:42:18 <Halcyon> :P
19:43:09 <Ampera> your ass is grass
19:43:28 <Ampera> As for natural gas rates, I'm not sure on that, but it's fairly cheap.
19:43:46 <Ampera> Some places don't use natural gas, they actually use heating oil, like down in Connecticut, where I was born.
19:44:51 <Halcyon> Heating oil?
19:45:02 <Halcyon> Like plumbed oil?
19:45:09 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heating_oil
19:45:44 <Halcyon> Does it arrive via pipeline to homes?
19:45:50 <Halcyon> Or how does one get it?
19:46:10 <Ampera> Either through pipeline or tank
19:48:01 <Halcyon> Weird
19:52:08 <Ampera> anyways, I'm going to go sleep myself, good night
19:53:10 <Halcyon> Goodnight
19:53:22 <T3sl4> it's a rare sight but still happens nonetheless, seeing a tanker truck carrying heating oil parked outside a home
19:53:49 <T3sl4> (a short tank, like half the size of a semi tanker)
19:54:02 <Halcyon> Ah yeh
19:59:03 <Halcyon> Mmmmm salami
20:04:37 <Halcyon> Thanks for the free publicity mrpackethead :-)
20:05:05 <Halcyon> I was worried threads about this channel would just disappear into deeper and deeper pages, but you keep bringing them right back up to the top.
20:05:21 <Halcyon> Also, great to see you've stuck around.
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22:58:51 <steve30> hi
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23:15:05 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
23:18:48 <steve30> *pur*
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