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00:22:23 <Jevouse> erm
00:22:27 <Jevouse> octgn.freeforums.org
00:22:37 <Jevouse> sorry
00:22:42 <Jevouse> octgnsets.freeforums.org
00:25:20 <Jevouse> a lot of people have migrated from MWS to OCTGN
00:27:10 <Mekkis> is there a way to do it without redownloading all the images?
00:29:15 <Jevouse> um
00:29:26 <Jevouse> no
00:29:39 <Jevouse> its all one package
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06:35:21 <hatter> arr
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07:41:33 <hatter> i'm off for work, be back in about 8 hours if we want to continue that game from last night
09:50:47 <Mekkis> Brunius, would it be possible for you to pay more attention during games?
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10:05:41 <Brunius> Probably
10:12:09 <jevouse> wut?
10:24:43 <Mekkis> I find it rather frustrating
10:26:37 <Avatar> it is frustrating
10:27:12 <Mekkis> in an in-person game, would you do it?
10:27:16 <Avatar> if you want to play then play, if you don't, then don't
10:28:25 <jevouse> what's going on mekkis
10:28:34 <Mekkis> is Ballig around?
10:31:31 <jevouse> has anyone seen him around?
10:31:54 <jevouse> talked to him, knocked on his door, been a friendly neighbour...
10:34:05 <jevouse> so mekkis, which cards should be banned in leg that...aren't?
10:34:22 <Mekkis> leg?
10:36:08 <jevouse> legacy
10:36:40 <Mekkis> I personally think that the banned list is quite adequate
10:37:47 <jevouse> okay
10:46:18 <jevouse> so, pfs?
10:46:19 <jevouse> :O
10:46:29 <jevouse> i haven't seen balls around for a while
10:49:39 <Mekkis> welll... hatter ain't here
10:49:46 <jevouse> he ain't?
10:49:49 <jevouse> aw
10:57:50 <Avatar> not till much later
11:02:42 <jevouse> shite
11:02:52 <jevouse> what is much later avatar?
11:03:19 <Avatar> at 9 he said he'd be back in 8 hours
11:03:24 <Avatar> so 5 more hours from now
11:03:50 <jevouse> 5 more hours!?
11:03:52 <jevouse> shite
11:06:44 <Mekkis> and I'm going out with my girlfriend this afternoon
11:08:11 <jevouse> no way!
11:22:56 <jevouse> not the meks too!
11:23:00 <jevouse> hrm
11:23:09 <jevouse> avatar can DM one scenario though i guess
11:23:13 <jevouse> like he's been meaning to do
11:23:22 <Avatar> not without players
11:23:32 <jevouse> or ...the meks will be back in the evening ?
11:23:50 <Mekkis> I should
11:24:07 <Mekkis> I'm going to be needing to do some remote work, but I'll be able to play
11:24:15 <jevouse> YEAHHHHH
11:24:31 <Mekkis> since I'd reserved the timeslot for LSK
11:24:41 <Mekkis> hopefully S_m will come
11:24:45 <jevouse> lol
11:24:51 <jevouse> S&M
11:24:57 <Mekkis> and you can DM, jevouse
11:25:02 <jevouse> no!
11:25:06 <jevouse> in sequence!
11:25:10 <jevouse> #1 #2 #3 #4
11:25:32 <Mekkis> DM a different scenario then
11:25:35 <jevouse> any other order offends my sensibilities
11:25:41 <jevouse> and we haven't seen avatar DM in a while
11:25:45 <jevouse> and his dice are good
11:25:47 <jevouse> and kind
11:25:52 <Mekkis> we haven't seen you DM
11:25:57 <Avatar> yeah you should DM a game
11:26:05 <Mekkis> Avatar DMed last week
11:26:13 <jevouse> no its reserved for avatar's LSK
11:26:22 <jevouse> how could i possibly transgress upon his time to shine?
11:26:25 <Avatar> LSK isn't happening tonight I don't think
11:26:26 <jevouse> LSK/PFS
11:26:29 <Avatar> so you can DM
11:26:44 <jevouse> no avatar needs to get his DM time in every week
11:26:49 <jevouse> else he goes a little wonky
11:27:12 <Avatar> no I don't
11:27:13 <Avatar> you can DM
11:27:27 <Mekkis> where is Ballig?
11:27:36 <jevouse> he went into the dark zone
11:27:38 <jevouse> DDO
11:27:39 <jevouse> :O
11:27:48 <jevouse> that was the last we ever heard of him
11:43:06 <Avatar> pretty sure he didn't
11:43:22 <jevouse> how can you be so sure?
11:43:27 <jevouse> he's never spoken again
11:43:35 <Avatar> how can you be sure he did
11:43:39 <Avatar> since he never said he was going to
11:43:58 <jevouse> going to what?
11:44:00 <jevouse> play DDO?
11:44:02 <Avatar> yeah
11:44:03 <jevouse> he said that
11:44:10 <Avatar> lies
11:44:34 <Avatar> I'm killing these hinds in UO
11:44:39 <Avatar> and because I'm new, they take a long time to kill
11:44:52 <Avatar> and they constantly make these long loud whiny noises while I attack
11:45:09 <jevouse> its hind for " KILL ME FASTER NUB"
11:45:20 <Avatar> I'm trying!
13:21:58 <Mekkis> ....
13:22:03 <Mekkis> jevouse,
13:22:16 <Mekkis> I suggest you start reading through a scenario
13:22:43 <jevouse> who, me?
13:22:53 <jevouse> naww come on
13:22:59 <jevouse> we can finish #1
13:23:02 <jevouse> hatter will be back
13:27:10 <Mekkis> or you can start DMing something
13:27:25 <jevouse> oh the heavy burden
13:27:38 <jevouse> i'd better make another character
13:27:39 <Mekkis> how can you say that, without experience?
13:27:40 <jevouse> hm
13:27:43 <jevouse> Hopeless
13:27:52 <jevouse> well, it has got to be finicky tracking all your npcs
13:28:02 <Mekkis> you could just put the DM credit towards Rawlins'
13:28:06 <jevouse> i refuse
13:28:17 <Mekkis> jevouse, it's more finicky tracking all the PCs
13:28:19 <jevouse> DMing and playing shall be separated
13:28:38 <Mekkis> both Grolschmir and Mytiazair have some DM credit on them
13:29:09 <Mekkis> hmm
13:29:17 <Mekkis> what are the implications of having 5 strength?
13:29:35 <Brunius> carrying capacity
13:29:39 <Brunius> crap melee attack
13:29:47 <Brunius> crap climb/swim?
13:29:56 <Mekkis> so nothing much
13:30:21 <Brunius> not much if you have a mount
13:31:26 <Mekkis> 12lb carrying capacity
13:32:33 <Mekkis> spell component pouch: 2lb
13:32:58 <Mekkis> monk's outfit: 0.5lb
13:33:23 <jevouse> yeah, for you meks
13:33:24 <Mekkis> spellbook: 3lb
13:33:28 <jevouse> i refuse to do that
13:33:30 <Mekkis> 5.5lb
13:33:50 <jevouse> crap climb/swim/cmb/cmd
13:33:59 <jevouse> which is really going to hinder your style
13:34:24 <Mekkis> how so?
13:35:20 <Avatar> you won't be able to climb, or swim or grapple, or defend against grapples
13:35:57 <Mekkis> spider climb, water walk, hold person, freedom of movement
13:36:17 <jevouse> yeah
13:36:24 <jevouse> but he's talking about 5 str at LEVEL ONE
13:36:30 <jevouse> you don't get all that at LEVEL ONE
13:36:30 <jevouse> lol
13:36:50 <Avatar> how long is it before you get freedom of movement
13:37:11 <Mekkis> jevouse, Mytiazair didn't get damaged until level 2
13:37:18 <Mekkis> and didn't get hit until level 3
13:38:29 <Mekkis> quarterstaff: 2lb
13:38:57 <Mekkis> I should get a mount and a familiar
13:39:42 <Mekkis> is hatter around?
13:39:52 <Mekkis> or Ballig
13:40:03 <jevouse> well mekkis
13:40:08 <jevouse> not all of us are as good as you
13:40:10 <jevouse> or as experienced
13:40:13 <jevouse> in avoiding damage
13:41:21 <jevouse> hatter won't be around
13:41:22 <jevouse> for some time
13:41:39 <Brunius> yeah but mekkis, not everyone relentlessly powergames
13:43:09 <jevouse> yeah
13:43:17 <jevouse> and not everyone automatically knows which items to buy
13:43:23 <jevouse> for each scenario
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13:52:35 <Mekkis> jevouse, I don't either
13:52:49 <Mekkis> you don't need to know that
13:53:06 <Mekkis> you need to know how to deal with different classes of threat
13:53:25 <jevouse> well, not everyone knows all the different classes of threat either
13:53:36 <Mekkis> you need to know that
13:54:04 <Mekkis> large enemies, flying enemies, swarms, incorporeal enemies
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13:55:16 <jevouse> large enemies ? just charge 'em
13:55:16 <jevouse> flying....shoot 'em
13:55:19 <jevouse> swarms, bomb 'em
13:55:26 <jevouse> incorporeal, magick 'em
13:55:30 <jevouse> or force 'em
13:55:40 <jevouse> now flying swarms...those are hard
14:03:41 <Mekkis> jevouse, and can your character do all that?
14:06:05 <jevouse> i can charge shoot and bomb
14:06:06 <jevouse> so far
14:06:10 <jevouse> i'll take bard next
14:07:02 <Mekkis> you didn't deal with that swarm very well
14:07:48 <jevouse> i should've just hit it with the hammer
14:07:49 <jevouse> i know
14:07:58 <jevouse> cost me 5 hp
14:08:27 <Mekkis> how do you deal with an incorporeal enemy?
14:08:48 <Mekkis> now, ask Cairo the same questions :S
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14:10:11 <jevouse> incorporeal
14:10:13 <jevouse> arcane strike
14:10:15 <jevouse> magic
14:10:17 <jevouse> right
14:10:23 <jevouse> lol
14:11:04 <Mekkis> jevouse, you're not going to take the mounted combat style ranger?
14:12:07 <jevouse> no
14:12:14 <jevouse> whatever for
14:12:27 <jevouse> my mount can't always squeeze in
14:13:20 <Mekkis> sometimes it can
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14:13:53 <jevouse> and there are such things as locked rooms
14:25:14 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 3pm | EM: Sat 3pm | LSK: Sat 5th 7.30pm | CotE: Sat 7pm - level 1 Pathfinder, see Ballig || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00)
14:29:49 <Avatar> or barricaded doors
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14:47:33 <Mekkis_x200> what should I spell focus in?
14:47:41 <jevouse> Divination
14:47:56 <Mekkis_x200> why?
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14:55:18 <jevouse> because you're a diviner
14:55:44 <Mekkis_x200> and?
14:56:10 <Avatar> learning stuff through divination is sweet
14:56:21 <Mekkis_x200> and...?
14:56:29 <Avatar> and then...?
14:56:33 <Mekkis_x200> jevouse, what does spell focus do?
14:58:30 <jevouse> gives you better DCs
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14:58:53 <Mekkis_x200> what divination spells require DCs?
14:59:05 <jevouse> detect thoughts...and....erm
14:59:07 <jevouse> something else
14:59:46 <jevouse> something else really good
15:00:15 <Mekkis_x200> hehe
15:00:20 <Mekkis_x200> scrying, I know
15:00:55 <Mekkis_x200> so you're not willing to spend feats on mounted combat, because it doesn't work indoors, yet you think it's a good idea for me to spend a feat on something that slightly improves two spells
15:00:57 <Mekkis_x200> hmmm
15:01:06 <jevouse> yes, of course
15:01:15 <jevouse> my concept is not a mounted warrior
15:04:10 <Mekkis_x200> my concept doesn't involve violating people's privacy
15:04:11 <jevouse> yours is a diviner
15:04:24 <jevouse> you only say that now
15:04:32 <jevouse> but when those private people are planning to kill you
15:04:35 <jevouse> well
15:04:45 <Mekkis_x200> then I'll summon a devil and get it to kill them
15:05:04 <jevouse> so you're a conjurer now?
15:05:05 <jevouse> heh
15:05:52 <Mekkis_x200> no
15:06:00 <Mekkis_x200> you're so stereotypically minded
15:06:11 <jevouse> no
15:06:16 <jevouse> but if you're going to summon devils
15:06:19 <jevouse> you might as well be one
15:06:55 <Mekkis_x200> that was just an example
15:07:08 <jevouse> of course
15:10:39 <Mekkis_x200> but spell focus divination is not really what I'm after
15:10:49 <Mekkis_x200> I don't want to overcome mental defences like that
15:10:50 <jevouse> have it your way meks
15:10:52 <jevouse> don't ask us
15:11:46 <jevouse> i'm just going to make my gnome ...oracle? diviner?
15:11:47 <jevouse> hrmmm
15:12:14 <Mekkis_x200> are you going to take spell focus divination?
15:12:31 <jevouse> if i take diviner
15:12:46 <jevouse> i might
15:12:55 <jevouse> or some other nice magic feats
15:12:56 <jevouse> mm
15:13:03 <jevouse> probably when i get scry
15:13:51 <Mekkis_x200> you get one free spell focus feat for free
15:14:10 <jevouse> oh i do?
15:14:14 <jevouse> chuffed i'm sure
15:14:17 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
15:14:24 <jevouse> hrm what school goes with divination
15:14:39 <Mekkis_x200> instead of scribe scroll
15:14:41 <Mekkis_x200> divination?
15:14:50 <jevouse> wait, that's wrong
15:14:55 <jevouse> everything goes with divination
15:15:04 <jevouse> except i can't take necromancy
15:15:07 <Mekkis_x200> what do you mean?
15:15:09 <Mekkis_x200> why not?
15:15:17 <jevouse> isn't it evil prereq?
15:15:20 <Mekkis_x200> no
15:15:25 <jevouse> oh, if so
15:15:34 <jevouse> cool
15:15:40 <jevouse> i know what to take as opposition then
15:15:55 <jevouse> conjuration is one
15:15:58 <jevouse> hrmm
15:16:20 <Mekkis_x200> in 3.5e you only needed to take one
15:16:48 <jevouse> yeah i know
15:16:50 <jevouse> its sad
15:17:00 <jevouse> why nerf divination so hard
15:17:11 <jevouse> it only needs one opposing school really
15:17:29 <jevouse> oh i know i'll take universalist as an opposing school
15:17:34 <jevouse> that way i don't need to take anything else!
15:17:51 <Mekkis_x200> just take universalist
15:17:57 <jevouse> sno
15:17:59 <jevouse> no
15:18:01 <jevouse> i refuse
15:18:11 <jevouse> i have a concept and i'm going to stick to it
15:18:19 <jevouse> stop trying to pry me away from it
15:19:05 <jevouse> and for that you're going to finish #1 today
15:19:23 <jevouse> no diversions
15:22:18 <Mekkis> you're not showing me, as a DM, much respect
15:27:42 <Mekkis> !throw 6#3d6
15:27:43 <diebot> Mekkis, 6#3d6: [3d6=3,5,4] 12, [3d6=6,6,4] 16, [3d6=3,5,5] 13, [3d6=2,6,6] 14, [3d6=4,6,4] 14, [3d6=3,5,1] 9
15:49:09 <jevouse> that will go up as soon as you agree to DM today
15:49:41 <Mekkis> jevouse, got and EDH deck
15:49:45 <Mekkis> in octgn or MWS?
15:49:48 <jevouse> i have several
15:49:51 <jevouse> in OCTGN
15:50:04 <Mekkis> ok
15:50:04 <jevouse> i think i would lose to you, knowing your tendency
15:50:12 <Mekkis> can you host?
15:50:23 <jevouse> eh, can you?
15:50:26 <jevouse> i can, but
15:50:33 <jevouse> its troublesome
15:50:38 <Mekkis> given that I'm running it on a virtual machine behind half a million NATs
15:50:41 <jevouse> ah
15:50:42 <jevouse> okay
15:50:45 <jevouse> i'll do v6
15:51:09 <jevouse> 2001:0:4137:9e76:38b3:3ae6:2300:bfb4
15:52:18 <jevouse> wow
15:52:20 <jevouse> you tried to connect
15:52:22 <jevouse> and it crashed
15:52:43 <Brunius> give it more ram to play with
15:52:49 <jevouse> its back up
15:52:50 <Mekkis> 2001:5c0:1108:1300:a00:27ff:fe7b:78c8
15:52:53 <jevouse> ram is not a problem
15:52:53 <jevouse> lol
15:53:32 <jevouse> come on, don't tell me it can't handle real v6
15:53:45 <Mekkis> it probably can't handle your fake v6
15:53:52 <jevouse> no the fake works just fine
15:54:01 <jevouse> i have tried it a lot of times
15:54:03 <jevouse> with other players
15:54:05 <Mekkis> try connecting to 2001:5c0:1108:1300:a00:27ff:fe7b:78c8
15:54:25 <jevouse> port 8088?
15:54:31 <Mekkis> yeah
15:54:39 <jevouse> it eez not working
15:55:20 <jevouse> apparently i can't handle real v6
15:55:33 <jevouse> 2001:0:4137:9e76:38b3:3ae6:2300:bfb4
15:55:41 <jevouse> just use that
15:56:12 <jevouse> are you using mono anyway?
15:56:16 <jevouse> because if you're wining it
15:56:22 <Mekkis> mytiazair:/home/downloads # nmap -6 2001:0:4137:9e76:38b3:3ae6:2300:bfb4 -PN -p8088
15:56:23 <Mekkis> Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-02-26 15:55 EST
15:56:23 <Mekkis> Interesting ports on 2001:0:4137:9e76:38b3:3ae6:2300:bfb4:
15:56:23 <Mekkis> PORT STATE SERVICE
15:56:23 <Mekkis> 8088/tcp filtered unknown
15:56:36 <jevouse> then it crashed again
15:56:50 <jevouse> i don't know what you're doing
15:56:56 <jevouse> but something is wrong
15:57:11 <jevouse> clearly the application can't handle something you're doing
15:57:18 <Mekkis> connect to ipv4.nl.ti4200.info port 8088
15:57:20 <hatter> hatter is home
15:57:29 <jevouse> mekkis is going out
15:57:53 <jevouse> i need the ip mekkis
15:58:06 <Mekkis> doesn't it take an FQDN?
15:58:13 <jevouse> not sure
15:58:14 <jevouse> we can try
15:58:21 <jevouse> because it sure as hell doesn't have dns
15:58:26 <Mekkis> try before complaining
15:58:38 <jevouse> what?
15:58:42 <Mekkis> 109.235.52.28
15:59:02 <jevouse> oh it got in
15:59:03 <jevouse> nice
15:59:20 <Mekkis> I'm supposed to click start?
15:59:22 <jevouse> yeah
15:59:30 <jevouse> did you convert a deck over?
15:59:38 <Mekkis> yes
15:59:43 <Mekkis> I've just loaded it
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16:45:21 <Mekkis> ,,
16:52:38 <Sachiru> Mekkis, a query. Assume that a character is bound by both a Vow of Nonviolence, and a Vow of Peace. Would it be a violation of his vows if he uses spells like Polymorph to deal with hostile entities (polymorphing them into nonlethal forms, that is),
16:53:07 <Sachiru> Or, if not polymorph, stacking fear effects so that they are highly motivated to stop fighting and run away?
16:53:27 <Mekkis> perhaps
16:53:33 <Mekkis> try it some time
16:55:21 <Sachiru> <@Mekkis> perhaps <--- Perhaps it would be a violation?
16:55:31 <Sachiru> I do not get the meaning of the "perhaps".
16:56:01 <Mekkis> perhaps it would be a violation, perhaps it would be acceptable
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16:56:16 <Brunius> thanks, av
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17:06:48 <Avatar> are you making a third wizard mekkis
17:06:56 <Mekkis> third?
17:07:01 <Avatar> you said you had two
17:07:06 <Avatar> and this sounds like another
17:07:08 <Mekkis> I do
17:07:16 <Mekkis> Mytiazair, and Deceased
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17:07:23 <Mekkis> who is the one I've been making up
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17:07:27 <Avatar> gotcha
17:07:35 <Mekkis> Mytiazair I started at gencon 2008
17:07:54 <Avatar> has anyone else made a cleric
17:08:04 <Mekkis> here?
17:08:06 <Mekkis> not sure
17:08:07 <Brunius> Derau
17:08:08 <Avatar> yeah
17:08:13 <Avatar> who's Derau
17:08:14 <Brunius> That dwarven healbot
17:08:22 <Avatar> what?
17:08:29 <Brunius> I made a cleric called Derau
17:08:36 <Avatar> oh good
17:08:48 <Brunius> Who managed to make the only useful thing he did in his first session heal shit
17:09:04 <Avatar> Mekkis: your doods aren't on the site
17:09:26 <Mekkis> doods?
17:09:38 <Avatar> Mytiazair and Deceased
17:09:52 <Mekkis> oh
17:10:06 <Mekkis> Deceased isn't completely done yet
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17:10:14 <Mekkis> and Mytiazair needs to level again
17:10:16 <Hargrave> hello
17:10:30 <Avatar> I've added them both
17:10:34 <Avatar> Hargrave
17:10:37 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
17:10:47 <Hargrave> O.O
17:10:54 <Avatar> oh yes
17:10:57 <Hargrave> lol i just joind i have no idea how this works lmao
17:11:05 <Avatar> have you played before
17:11:09 <Hargrave> yes
17:11:18 <Avatar> what edition
17:11:21 <Hargrave> on pen and paper never irc lol
17:11:26 <Hargrave> 3.5
17:11:29 <Hargrave> 3
17:11:30 <Avatar> sweet
17:11:34 <Hargrave> mostley
17:11:35 <Avatar> pathfinder?
17:11:40 <Hargrave> yep
17:11:55 <Avatar> did you see the site before you came in
17:12:07 <Hargrave> i glanced at it
17:12:08 <Hargrave> lol
17:12:13 <Avatar> go to the downloads section
17:12:16 <Avatar> get a char sheet template
17:12:18 <Hargrave> kk
17:12:19 <Avatar> and CA beta
17:12:35 <Hargrave> pathfinder template?
17:12:38 <Avatar> yeah
17:13:00 <Brunius> 99 emails in dakkadakka folder
17:13:06 <Avatar> does anyone have a link to the pathfinder organised play pdf
17:13:09 <Brunius> Why do I forsee an interesting debate?
17:13:37 <Hargrave> well while my shit iraq interwebd d/l this i will say hello nice to meat you all ^^
17:14:33 <Hargrave> ok d/l the CA and have the teplate is there a roler script in this channle?
17:14:58 <Avatar> !throw 1d20
17:14:58 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20: [1d20=10] 10
17:14:58 <Hargrave> got it
17:15:18 <Avatar> where are you?
17:15:49 <Hargrave> me?
17:15:56 <Avatar> yeah
17:16:04 <Hargrave> im curently in iraq
17:16:10 <Avatar> what timezone is that
17:16:15 <Mekkis> +2
17:16:17 <Mekkis> I think
17:16:34 <Hargrave> .... um well not shure its 10:13 am here atm
17:17:02 <Brunius> 8 behind us
17:17:07 <Hargrave> im stuck here on standby for the for that next 11 hours so i have time lol
17:17:11 <hatter> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/scenarios/v5748btpy84k4 guide to organized play
17:17:47 <Hargrave> CA is running how do i work it?
17:18:01 <Avatar> you put in the DM's IP when it's time to play
17:18:07 <Hargrave> ok
17:18:09 <Avatar> it's a grid with counters basically
17:18:39 <Hargrave> under adress and my nick in username?
17:18:46 <hatter> yup
17:18:52 <Hargrave> got it
17:19:33 <Mekkis> IP or FQDN
17:19:51 <Hargrave> ok roling a chr. what the rules ?
17:20:01 <Avatar> go to that link hatter gave you
17:20:02 <hatter> the guide to organized play will tell you
17:20:09 <hatter> it walks you through
17:20:12 <Hargrave> kk
17:20:13 <Mekkis> if you're playing in Pathfinder, the Guide has what you need
17:20:46 <hatter> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ will have all the rules you need to look up
17:21:34 <Hargrave> blahh hope im not slowing you guys down
17:21:44 <hatter> you're not lol
17:21:49 <Mekkis> jevouse is AFK at the moment
17:21:52 <hatter> avatar just tells everyone new to roll up a character as soon as we see them
17:21:56 <Hargrave> ok XP
17:22:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, can you do me a favour
17:22:11 <Hargrave> O.o
17:22:11 <Hargrave> lol
17:22:20 <Avatar> did you get my pm
17:22:23 <Avatar> Mekkis: maybe
17:22:26 <Mekkis> there's a store in glenelg that's not connecting to the VPN
17:22:32 <Mekkis> drive over there and plug it in :)
17:22:40 <Avatar> you'll have to be more specific
17:23:04 <Mekkis> I don't know exactly where it is
17:23:21 <Mekkis> but it's not on our VPN
17:23:58 <Avatar> so am I meant to guess where it is
17:26:30 <Hargrave> another ? ... any particular class that is needed?
17:27:35 <Mekkis> Hargrave, I always recommend new players to play a sorcerer
17:27:43 <Mekkis> noone listens to that though
17:27:51 <Mekkis> they seem to prefer Big Stupid Fighters
17:28:19 <Hargrave> >.< lol
17:28:30 <Hargrave> sorcerer is vary hard to play
17:29:20 <Mekkis> how so?
17:30:36 <Brunius> You just spam spells
17:30:43 <Mekkis> easier than fighter
17:30:49 <Brunius> BSF, you just spam melee attacks
17:30:53 <Hargrave> spell casters are tough to play lol .. learning your spells is hard in the beginning.. that is what i have found from personal experience
17:31:34 <Hargrave> lol
17:31:34 <Mekkis> spellcaster: if you stuff up your spells early on, you can still be useful later on without too much effort
17:31:49 <Mekkis> fighter: if you fuck up a feat chain or anything like that, you're screwed later on
17:32:09 <Hargrave> true
17:32:12 <Brunius> Mekkis, Glenelg is like 400km from where avatar is
17:32:34 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's like 3000km from where I am
17:32:54 <Brunius> Are you being paid to do it?
17:33:04 <Mekkis> to drive that far? no
17:33:13 <Avatar> good on you
17:33:20 <Avatar> get spaceshot to go there
17:33:41 <Brunius> he's probably closer
17:34:35 <Hargrave> omg getting that book took way to long >.<
17:35:25 <Hargrave> >.< d/l at 230bps
17:35:28 <Hargrave> lol
17:35:31 <Brunius> lulz
17:35:49 <Hargrave> iraq web sucks >.<
17:35:56 <Brunius> "The packets would probably travel faster is ca-a-a-ars"
17:36:24 <Hargrave> to many damn satellites
17:36:57 <Brunius> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
17:38:08 * Mekkis is running a traceroute
17:38:10 <Mekkis> showing stars
17:39:18 <Brunius> "Spent too much time playing WoW!"
17:40:04 <Mekkis> "The men that made us push and push..."
17:40:51 <Mekkis> Hargrave, got ipv6?
17:41:39 <Hargrave> this video looks promising im going to let it preload so i can see it all the way through
17:42:09 <Hargrave> .... huh?
17:42:30 <Brunius> He's using satelite internet Mekkis
17:42:39 <Hargrave> yah
17:42:41 * Brunius bets its IPv4
17:43:06 <jevouse> i'm BACKKKK
17:43:13 <jevouse> oh its an american soldier in iraq
17:43:20 <Mekkis> Brunius, satellite is layer 1
17:43:29 <Mekkis> IPv4 and IPv6 are layer 3
17:43:35 <Mekkis> learn your OSI model
17:43:36 <jevouse> what's layer 2
17:43:42 <Mekkis> data link layer
17:43:45 <Mekkis> mainly switches
17:43:48 <jevouse> i see
17:43:55 <Brunius> I don't even know what OSI is
17:43:55 <Hargrave> O.O what is this mumbo jumbo lol
17:44:01 <Mekkis> and transceivers
17:44:07 <jevouse> OSI
17:44:12 <Brunius> Mekkis is our resident "UPGRADE TO IPv6 DAMMIT" advocate
17:44:13 <jevouse> Office of Signals Intelligence
17:44:13 <jevouse> of course
17:44:26 <Hargrave> lol
17:44:41 <Avatar> the day the rooters died
17:44:44 <jevouse> that or operational standards of the Internet
17:44:45 <Hargrave> patts Mekkis on the back
17:45:31 <Mekkis> The Open Systems Interconnection model (OSI model)
17:45:43 <jevouse> open systems...that's a good one
17:45:49 <Mekkis> what?
17:45:52 <Mekkis> they are open
17:45:56 <jevouse> what do you call an open system that can be closed?
17:46:08 <Mekkis> something under the BSD licence!
17:46:17 <jevouse> hahaha!
17:46:20 <Mekkis> jevouse, your turn
17:47:24 <Hargrave> O.o think i d/c
17:47:32 <jevouse> no
17:47:34 <jevouse> you did not
17:47:45 <Hargrave> hello?
17:47:56 <jevouse> hello
17:48:05 <jevouse> hrm, did they block his signal that fast
17:49:12 <Hargrave> >.>
17:49:12 <Hargrave> <.<
17:49:20 <Hargrave> ..ah ha
17:49:23 <Hargrave> im back!!!
17:49:23 <jevouse> i think they blocked his signal
17:49:39 <jevouse> using weather control
17:49:52 <Hargrave> O.o
17:50:51 <Hargrave> hello?
17:51:04 <jevouse> hello
17:51:22 <Hargrave> ah there .... weird
17:51:28 <Hargrave> shit internet
17:51:45 <Hargrave> sry
17:52:19 <Hargrave> >.< i have to start that d/l over again lol
17:53:58 <Hargrave> why would my signal get blocked?
17:54:05 <jevouse> by the weather
17:54:16 <Hargrave> oh ic
17:55:00 <Hargrave> nah ... there is alot of ppl on the same damn connection .. like upwards of 20-30 ppl at one time i think that has a larg thing to do with it
17:55:54 <Brunius> set the file to d/l in the middle of the night
17:56:02 <Brunius> when nobody is using the connection
17:56:49 <Hargrave> i got it now using giggaget half way now lol
17:57:00 <Hargrave> best program ever
17:57:02 <Hargrave> lol
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17:58:17 <Mekkis> we lost the vouse
17:58:29 <Avatar> quick let's play a game
17:58:45 <Hargrave> lol
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17:58:59 <Jevouse> fuck
17:59:04 <Jevouse> they banned my isp again
17:59:04 <Mekkis> what happened?
17:59:08 <Jevouse> well
17:59:09 <Mekkis> who is "they"?
17:59:13 <Jevouse> austnet
17:59:22 <Mekkis> still connect to OCT?
17:59:24 <Brunius> what?
17:59:25 <Jevouse> my isp uses dynamic proxy
17:59:25 <Jevouse> no
17:59:30 <Jevouse> apparently what my isp does
17:59:39 <Jevouse> is that it rotates my connection among different proxies every 24h
17:59:40 <Jevouse> or something
17:59:41 <Brunius> complain to #asd
17:59:46 <Jevouse> nah
17:59:47 <Jevouse> i tried that
17:59:56 <Brunius> and?
17:59:58 <Jevouse> they just told me to use the automated unblock
18:00:01 <Mekkis> connect through me
18:00:04 <Brunius> which is...
18:00:04 <Jevouse> which takes several hours
18:00:08 <Jevouse> to clear
18:00:13 <Brunius> tsk tsk tsk
18:00:18 <Mekkis> like all the cool kids
18:00:19 <Jevouse> it only unblocks when austnet does a scheduled reboot
18:00:24 <Mekkis> from nl.ti4200.info
18:00:31 <Jevouse> how do i do that
18:00:34 <Brunius> Mekkis: since when are avatar and I "the cool kids"
18:00:37 <Jevouse> lol
18:00:44 <Mekkis> well, hey
18:00:44 <Hargrave> lol
18:00:56 <Mekkis> compared with the other people here I've met in person
18:00:56 <Jevouse> and when my isp rotates servers
18:00:58 <Brunius> I only connect through there at school anyway
18:01:03 <Mekkis> you at least play regularly
18:01:06 <Jevouse> it cuts off my internet
18:01:08 <Avatar> I don't mind being a cool kid
18:01:09 <Jevouse> for like, 30s
18:01:16 <Jevouse> so everything goes down
18:01:26 <Jevouse> apparently
18:01:29 <Jevouse> they blocked my isp in 2005
18:01:32 <Jevouse> and it hasn't been removed
18:01:40 <Brunius> huh
18:01:41 <Jevouse> this tells me that nobody from singapore ever comes here
18:01:46 <Jevouse> yeah
18:01:47 <Jevouse> i know right
18:01:50 <Mekkis> Jevouse, so tunnel through nl.ti4200.info
18:01:56 <Jevouse> How
18:01:59 <Jevouse> you tell me
18:02:27 <Jevouse> just go to nl.ti4200.info and use the terminal there?
18:03:21 <Brunius> (Putty, onoz)
18:04:12 <Jevouse> explain this tunnel thing
18:04:15 <Jevouse> in windows
18:04:48 <Mekkis> firstly, you get an account with me
18:04:55 <Jevouse> okay
18:04:57 <Mekkis> then you connect to nl.ti4200.info in putty
18:05:07 <Jevouse> putty....erm...
18:05:19 <Jevouse> never heard of putty for windows
18:05:19 <Mekkis> then you create a dynamic SOCKS proxy to channel your connections through
18:05:32 <Brunius> it exists, Jevouse
18:05:37 <Jevouse> it exists?
18:05:38 <Jevouse> wooo
18:05:48 <Jevouse> i only know s711 was ranting about it on linux
18:05:48 <Mekkis> it's the only thing that makes windows usable
18:05:55 <Jevouse> hehe
18:06:01 <Jevouse> c'mon meks
18:06:06 <Brunius> the fact that you can make it think it's linux?
18:06:07 <Jevouse> you said that win7 wasn't that bad
18:06:23 <Mekkis> compared to vista
18:06:26 <Brunius> he was probably comparing with vista
18:06:29 <Brunius> ha
18:06:44 <Mekkis> then again, neither is a pile of shit
18:06:57 <Jevouse> hrm
18:07:00 <Jevouse> should i get the tunnelier
18:07:05 <Jevouse> or just the basic putty
18:07:23 <Mekkis> Jevouse, did you disconnect from OCTGN?
18:07:27 <Jevouse> yes
18:07:29 <Jevouse> i told you
18:07:32 <Jevouse> when my isp switches proxies
18:07:40 <Jevouse> using the dynamic ip allocation crap
18:07:43 <Jevouse> it cuts off all internet
18:07:48 <Jevouse> then octgn times out
18:07:55 <Mekkis> can you reconnect?
18:08:01 <Jevouse> no, because
18:08:13 <Jevouse> OCTGN doesn't support reconnection
18:08:15 <Mekkis> considered getting real IPv6?
18:08:18 <Jevouse> its not a dynamic server
18:08:29 <Jevouse> what does real ipv6 cost
18:08:36 <Jevouse> and i don't think my isp likes real ipv6
18:08:41 <Mekkis> an ISP that provides it
18:08:46 <Jevouse> none
18:08:48 <Jevouse> that means
18:08:53 <Mekkis> or even something like explicitly tunnelled ipv6
18:08:58 <Jevouse> they all support it badly
18:09:00 <Mekkis> gogo6 or whatever
18:09:09 <Jevouse> tunnelled to you?
18:09:19 <Jevouse> then i can ipv6 through your node?
18:09:58 <Jevouse> tunnelier or putty mekkis
18:10:09 <Jevouse> and i thought you were going out with your gf
18:10:09 <Jevouse> lol
18:11:05 <Mekkis> putty
18:11:18 <Jevouse> hrm k
18:12:09 <Mekkis> freenet6's ipv6 goes through one of their servers
18:12:31 <Mekkis> want to reconnect?
18:12:59 <Jevouse> i can't
18:13:01 <Jevouse> i told you
18:13:06 <Jevouse> octgn does not allow reconnection
18:13:14 <Jevouse> and it does not save game state, either
18:13:19 <Jevouse> something about python
18:13:30 <Jevouse> you'll need to rehost
18:13:34 <Mekkis> I did
18:13:40 <Jevouse> ah okay
18:13:45 <Jevouse> i'll....hrm
18:13:53 <Mekkis> it's written in python?
18:13:57 <Jevouse> yeah
18:13:58 <Jevouse> its python
18:14:13 <Mekkis> what were they smoking to choose .net 4.0
18:14:17 <Mekkis> is it open-source?
18:14:20 <Jevouse> yeah
18:14:22 <Jevouse> it is
18:14:36 <Mekkis> where can I get the source
18:14:39 <Jevouse> people have released versions of it with other features
18:14:41 <Jevouse> errrrrm
18:14:44 <Jevouse> hrmmmmm
18:14:51 <Jevouse> ask the developer
18:14:57 <Jevouse> brine or gaspare
18:15:14 <Mekkis> are you joining?
18:15:22 <Jevouse> what's the ip again?
18:16:54 <Jevouse> found it
18:16:54 <Jevouse> back in
18:17:12 <Jevouse> you'll want irc.ircstorm.net #octgn for the irc channel
18:17:22 <Jevouse> there you can pick up players and stuff
18:17:27 <Jevouse> and talk to the devs
18:17:52 <Mekkis> I thought you'd want me to be working on CA rather than OCTGN
18:18:00 <Jevouse> what's wrong with CA now?
18:18:09 <Jevouse> besides the slow sync speed
18:18:50 <Mekkis> I'm working on putting line drawing in
18:19:01 <Mekkis> and external server support
18:19:05 <Jevouse> on the wishlist is save game state, ability to reconnect to server, and ability to not bug out when someone leaves
18:19:16 <Mekkis> that will speed up syncing majorly
18:19:20 <Jevouse> hrm
18:19:22 <Avatar> what's this
18:19:29 <Jevouse> not everyone will have an external server to put it on
18:19:47 <Jevouse> unless you have one dedicated to hosting it
18:19:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, what I'm working on for DevCA
18:20:18 <Avatar> which is what
18:20:34 <Jevouse> you know, the program you use to play
18:20:37 <Jevouse> hrm
18:20:43 <Jevouse> so brunius isn't playing PFS?
18:20:58 <Avatar> no, the 'what im working on' bit
18:20:59 <Jevouse> so we're just waiting for hargrave
18:20:59 <Hargrave> O.o this chr. sheet is confusing the hell out of me lmao
18:20:59 <Jevouse> don't be man
18:21:01 <Jevouse> don't be
18:21:04 <Avatar> what part
18:21:05 <Jevouse> having faced 3.5 i believe in you
18:21:16 <Hargrave> the class skills and such
18:21:17 <Jevouse> line drawing
18:21:20 <Jevouse> so that he can draw lines
18:21:30 <Jevouse> and external server support, so it doesn't have to p2p
18:21:33 <Avatar> might help if you look at one of the existing char sheets
18:21:40 <Avatar> go to campaigns, pathfinder society
18:21:44 <Avatar> look up any of those
18:21:51 <Hargrave> ok
18:22:03 <Mekkis> unless you know LaTeX
18:22:04 <Hargrave> thanks sorry >.<
18:22:25 <Jevouse> lol mekkis
18:22:29 <Jevouse> latex is a shortcut
18:22:36 <Jevouse> if he doesn't understand how the skills work
18:22:52 <Jevouse> and if he doesn't happen to have latex some other place, he'll still be confused
18:24:00 <Hargrave> O.o latex......
18:24:07 <Hargrave> i came to play some d&d
18:24:08 <Jevouse> LaTeX
18:24:10 <Jevouse> really
18:24:22 <Jevouse> some form of markup language
18:24:24 <Avatar> ignore anything about latex
18:24:33 <Hargrave> kk
18:24:47 <Avatar> if you see a sheet that looks nothing like the one you created, it's probably one of mekkis' silly latex ones
18:25:37 <Jevouse> hahaha
18:25:50 <Jevouse> mekkis has the technology bad
18:27:08 <Hargrave> O.o so purchase system for skills .. kinda like BESM?
18:28:17 <Jevouse> yeah, max skill points in one skill = your level
18:28:17 <Hargrave> lol realy starting to confuse me @.@
18:28:23 <Jevouse> erm
18:28:29 <Jevouse> class skills get +3 one off class bonus
18:28:35 <Jevouse> to the skill
18:28:38 <Jevouse> that's it
18:28:50 <Jevouse> and of course all the skills are modified by their respective ability modifiers as well
18:28:56 <Jevouse> and some skills can't be used untrained
18:29:11 <Jevouse> untrained meaning you have no skill points in that skill
18:29:17 <Jevouse> skill points being what you get per level
18:29:21 <Mekkis> Jevouse ...
18:29:52 <Jevouse> chill meks
18:29:54 <Hargrave> ok .... um i need to roll stats... do i have to use the bot on here?
18:29:55 <Jevouse> explaining class skills
18:29:57 <Jevouse> and skills
18:29:59 <Jevouse> no
18:30:01 <Jevouse> you don't roll stats
18:30:03 <Jevouse> you buy 'em
18:30:04 <Jevouse> 20 points
18:30:10 <Hargrave> >.<
18:30:16 <Hargrave> lol
18:30:25 <Hargrave> so spend them were i see fit?
18:30:29 <Hargrave> correct
18:30:48 <Mekkis> yeah
18:30:52 <Mekkis> Jevouse, your turn
18:31:43 <Jevouse> you have the point allocation system right?
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18:33:00 <Hargrave> ....oh man im sorry this is just totaly diffrent .. so lets just say no i dont
18:33:04 <Hargrave> ... >.<
18:33:41 <Hargrave> for my stats str. dex and such i place as many points into each atrubute up to a total of 20 correct?
18:33:48 <Jevouse> no
18:33:49 <Jevouse> you get 20 points
18:33:56 <Hargrave> >.<
18:33:58 <Jevouse> total
18:33:59 <Jevouse> yeah
18:34:02 <Jevouse> correct
18:34:10 <Hargrave> ok lol
18:34:58 <hatter> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/ability-scores point buy table is on the right
18:36:47 <Hargrave> ahhhh thanks you Hatter it all makes sence now lmao
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18:39:32 <Avatar> Hargrave: you will get used to it
18:46:54 <Hargrave> heh ok im getting it now lol sorry
18:53:02 <Hargrave> hp rolled ?
18:54:34 <Hargrave> ..?
18:54:34 <Hargrave> :P
18:54:53 <Jevouse> no
18:54:55 <Jevouse> what' s your class?
18:55:08 <Jevouse> you get max hp for 1st level
18:55:20 <Jevouse> + con modifier+ favoured class hp(if you choose hp)
18:55:58 <Hargrave> paladin
18:56:08 <Hargrave> i got it XP i found it just after asking sorry
19:12:53 <Hargrave> ok so skills are the same as before.... int mod + what ever class calls for?
19:16:09 <Jevouse> no
19:16:18 <Jevouse> each skill has a different ability mod
19:16:22 <Jevouse> ah
19:16:23 <Jevouse> you mean
19:16:27 <Jevouse> how much you get per level?
19:16:27 <Jevouse> yeah
19:16:45 <Jevouse> its int mod + class + favoured class (if you choose extra skill point)
19:18:36 <Jevouse> hrm
19:18:38 <Hargrave> wait class + favoured class .. u lost me
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19:19:59 <Jevouse> you choose a favoured class at 1st level
19:20:05 <Jevouse> i'm assuming that's paladin
19:20:10 <Jevouse> what's your race?
19:20:38 <Hargrave> yes
19:20:38 <Hargrave> human
19:20:58 <Jevouse> yeah
19:21:00 <Jevouse> and you get human skill point
19:21:01 <Jevouse> as well
19:21:14 <Jevouse> so its int mod + race mod + class mod + favoured class mod
19:21:28 <Jevouse> thing about favoured class is, if you get a
19:21:36 <Jevouse> level in that class
19:21:38 <Jevouse> you get to choose
19:21:43 <Jevouse> either 1 extra skill point
19:21:46 <Jevouse> or 1 more hp
19:21:49 <Jevouse> your choice
19:22:23 <Hargrave> so 1+1+2+2 ?
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19:22:43 <Jevouse> 6
19:23:30 <Hargrave> yah i mean im doing that right though cause my class is paladin and my favord clas is palladin so they are both +2 correct?
19:23:49 <Hargrave> thats what im not getting
19:25:36 <Avatar> you dont' get it twice
19:26:14 <Mekkis> octgn is painful
19:26:25 <Jevouse> no
19:26:29 <Jevouse> you get 1 from favoured class
19:26:36 <Jevouse> and 2 from paladin
19:26:43 <Avatar> is this hp
19:26:47 <Jevouse> no
19:26:49 <Jevouse> class skills
19:26:56 <Jevouse> rather, skill points
19:27:15 <Jevouse> mekkis: if you make a deck translator from octgn to mws
19:27:15 <Avatar> what is class mod + favoured class mod
19:27:20 <Jevouse> i'll play you with that
19:27:22 <Jevouse> paladin is 2
19:27:25 <Jevouse> favoured class is 1
19:27:30 <Mekkis> you can
19:27:40 <Mekkis> just do it in openoffice, you knwo
19:27:54 <Jevouse> what
19:28:06 <Hargrave> ok so only 4 then lol
19:28:08 <Jevouse> its a closed file format .o8d
19:28:16 <Mekkis> MWS just needs a plaintext list of card names
19:28:17 <Mekkis> no
19:28:27 <Mekkis> it's a rather standard XML file format
19:28:32 <Jevouse> is it now
19:28:34 <Mekkis> open it in notepad
19:28:43 <Jevouse> so i just open .o8d in notepad?
19:28:44 <Jevouse> k
19:28:57 <Mekkis> see? XML
19:29:15 <Jevouse> so how do i plaintext it into MWS
19:29:29 <Avatar> Jevouse: what are you on about
19:29:35 <Jevouse> magic the gathering
19:29:40 <Jevouse> nothing you'd know
19:29:48 <Mekkis> look, if you want, and everyone's around, I'll DM PFS - since you're not going to
19:30:05 <Avatar> I need to be sleeping in a couple of hours
19:30:12 <Jevouse> avatar: what
19:30:21 <Mekkis> ok then
19:30:24 <Avatar> need to be up early tomorrow
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19:30:38 <Mekkis> same here TBH
19:30:42 <Jevouse> i see
19:30:56 <Avatar> but that all goes out the window if you are DMing
19:31:09 <Jevouse> hrm
19:31:15 <Mekkis> Jevouse, if you buy me a few PFS modules, I'll give you an account with nl.ti4200.info
19:31:22 <Jevouse> lol mekkis
19:31:24 <Mekkis> everyone wins
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19:31:53 <Mekkis> paizo gets money, you get to play, you get to make me DM more
19:31:54 <Hargrave> hmm weird
19:32:02 <Mekkis> and you get a more stable connection
19:32:03 <Jevouse> oh i get to make mekkis DM more?
19:32:04 <Jevouse> woooo
19:32:08 <Jevouse> how many modules
19:32:32 <Mekkis> as many as you think reasonable
19:32:35 <Jevouse> is a few
19:32:36 <Jevouse> ok
19:32:38 <Mekkis> at least two :S
19:32:59 <Jevouse> i'll buy you #1 #2 and #3 of a tripartite series
19:32:59 <Avatar> the more you buy, the more he DMs
19:32:59 <Jevouse> that you don't have
19:33:05 <Jevouse> suggestions
19:33:39 <Mekkis_x200> not Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch
19:34:01 <Mekkis_x200> I want someone else to DM that
19:34:21 <Mekkis_x200> it's one of the few I haven't played
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19:35:10 <Jevouse> or i'll buy #1 #2 and #3 of grandmaster torch and dm that
19:35:24 <Jevouse> And you give me access and buy #3 and #4 the devil we know
19:35:32 <Jevouse> how about that
19:35:50 <Mekkis_x200> The Pallid Plague
19:36:08 <Jevouse> The Pallid Plague?
19:36:09 <Jevouse> okay
19:36:52 <Mekkis_x200> Decline of Glory
19:37:42 <Mekkis_x200> Murder on the Silken Caravan
19:38:01 <Hargrave> omg ok i have the main stats i think now i need gear lol
19:38:10 <Jevouse> yeah
19:38:12 <Jevouse> you need gear
19:38:16 <Jevouse> you start with...150 gp
19:38:19 <Hargrave> ah shit feats >.<
19:38:29 <Hargrave> lol
19:38:30 <Jevouse> only two feats
19:38:30 <Hargrave> ok
19:38:30 <Jevouse> lol
19:39:01 <Jevouse> how do i buy you stuff mekkis
19:39:12 <Hargrave> i still get the trait though right
19:39:23 <Mekkis_x200> at the checkout, there's gift options
19:40:29 <Jevouse> i see
19:40:33 <Jevouse> what's your username
19:40:45 <Jevouse> hargrave: you get two traits at creation
19:40:50 <Mekkis_x200> that's a good question
19:40:52 <Jevouse> from different categories
19:41:02 <Jevouse> that's a good question?
19:41:03 <Jevouse> lol
19:41:06 <Jevouse> you forgot it?
19:42:48 <Jevouse> is your username just Mekkis
19:42:49 <Mekkis_x200> the number's 10339
19:42:58 <Jevouse> k
19:43:04 <Mekkis_x200> I think so
19:43:12 <Mekkis_x200> http://paizo.com/people/Mekkis/
19:44:02 <Jevouse> right
19:44:32 <Mekkis_x200> I should DM Pathfinder Society Special: Year of the Shadow Lodge (PFRPG)
19:46:54 <Mekkis_x200> the one where I managed to convince 4 DMs that my illusionary air elemental was real
19:47:08 <Jevouse> lol
19:48:20 <Jevouse> ...the murder one doesn't seem to have many good reviews
19:48:46 <Mekkis_x200> then don't get it
19:51:08 <Jevouse> all bought
19:51:12 <Jevouse> check your account now
19:52:30 <Jevouse> do you see it?
19:52:37 <Mekkis_x200> nope
19:52:43 <Jevouse> o.O
19:52:51 <Jevouse> what
19:52:51 <Mekkis_x200> give it time
19:52:56 * Mekkis_x200 is cooking
19:52:58 <Brunius> penguins...
19:52:59 <Jevouse> its all electronic
19:53:07 <Jevouse> should be done very soon
19:54:57 <Mekkis_x200> yep
19:54:59 <Mekkis_x200> it's there now
19:55:01 <Mekkis_x200> thanks
19:55:24 * Mekkis_x200 looks at the daunting DMing task ahead of him
19:55:37 <Mekkis_x200> I'll create your account when this food's ready
19:56:06 <Jevouse> daunting DMing task
19:56:07 <Jevouse> hehe
19:57:00 <Mekkis_x200> it's hard
19:57:47 <Mekkis_x200> in the meantime, run puttygen and create a public/private key pair
19:57:59 <Brunius> and give it a secure password
19:58:11 <Jevouse> secure? what's secure
19:58:14 <Jevouse> nothing is secure when meks is here
19:59:05 <Jevouse> SSH 1 or 2 RSA DSA?
19:59:06 * Mekkis_x200 takes a break from remote desktopping into computers with username:Administrator, password: password
19:59:12 <Mekkis_x200> SSH2
19:59:24 <Jevouse> RSA DSA?
19:59:29 <Mekkis_x200> either
19:59:34 <Jevouse> k
19:59:37 <Mekkis_x200> RSA
19:59:43 <Mekkis_x200> make it 4096 bit
19:59:45 <Jevouse> 1024 bit?
19:59:47 <Jevouse> 4096
19:59:47 <Jevouse> ok
20:00:55 <Jevouse> mouse waving to generate randomness
20:00:55 <Jevouse> hehehe
20:01:59 <Jevouse> save public and private key?
20:02:02 <Jevouse> and pm you the public key?
20:02:30 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
20:03:31 <Hargrave> cmd cmb .. what are they ??
20:03:45 <Jevouse> combat maneuver defense
20:03:53 <Jevouse> and combat maneuver bonus
20:04:13 <Mekkis_x200> like grapple mod
20:04:15 <Jevouse> cmd = 10+ str mod + dex mod + class bonus + misc
20:04:27 <Jevouse> + bab
20:04:59 <Jevouse> cmb = bab + str mod + any class/trait/feat bonus
20:05:20 <Mekkis_x200> item
20:06:17 <Hargrave> wait so what is base?
20:06:23 <Jevouse> 1
20:06:26 <Jevouse> for paladin
20:06:30 <Jevouse> its in the table
20:06:48 <Hargrave> = = x(base) + 2(str) + 0(size) +0(dex) + 10
20:06:48 <Hargrave> ok
20:07:17 <Hargrave> ok must have over looked it sorry
20:07:19 <Jevouse> yeah
20:07:28 <Jevouse> x = 1 for paladin
20:07:34 <Jevouse> at first level
20:07:56 <Jevouse> did you get it meks?
20:08:22 <Mekkis_x200> yes
20:09:16 <Mekkis_x200> Jevouse, what username do you want?
20:09:22 <Jevouse> jevouse
20:09:33 <Jevouse> things simple and tidy
20:09:50 <Mekkis_x200> The7Point5ftRuleSucks?
20:09:57 <Jevouse> no
20:10:03 <Jevouse> i like the 7.5' rule
20:10:08 <Jevouse> how about
20:10:10 <Mekkis_x200> what?
20:10:13 <Mekkis_x200> Avatar's?
20:10:24 <Jevouse> ConDZilla sucks
20:10:40 <Jevouse> avatar's 7.5' rule?
20:10:41 <Mekkis_x200> what's the n?
20:10:46 <Jevouse> Conjurer
20:10:52 <Jevouse> ConDZilla
20:11:03 <Jevouse> cleric is kinda balanced in pfs
20:11:17 <Jevouse> avatar has his own 7.5' rule?
20:11:20 <Mekkis_x200> and conjurers aren't
20:11:21 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
20:11:27 <Jevouse> no using reach weapons diagonally?
20:11:29 <Jevouse> bah
20:11:30 <Jevouse> he sucks
20:11:35 <Jevouse> yeah conjurers aren't balance
20:11:36 <Jevouse> d
20:11:39 <Mekkis_x200> the "any diagonal is 7.5', so you can't 5' that way"
20:11:42 <Jevouse> oops
20:11:43 <Jevouse> wait
20:11:44 <Jevouse> no
20:11:45 <Jevouse> summoners
20:11:50 <Mekkis_x200> heh
20:11:54 <Jevouse> SuDZillaSucks
20:12:14 <Jevouse> giant cat + what the fuck is that crazy dude with 4 lances
20:12:20 <Mekkis_x200> 4?
20:12:24 <Mekkis_x200> don't you mean eight
20:12:30 <Jevouse> 4 at level 3
20:12:45 <Jevouse> 8 at whatever level
20:12:45 <Jevouse> lol
20:13:06 <Mekkis_x200> sort of one a level
20:13:42 <Jevouse> hrmm necromantic conjuration
20:13:52 <Jevouse> control undead and summon undead
20:13:53 <Jevouse> wooo?
20:14:28 <Jevouse> anyway, did you make it SuDZillaSucks
20:14:31 <Mekkis_x200> the crazy 4-legged dude riding a horse with eight lances
20:14:42 <Mekkis_x200> no, I haven't made it yet
20:14:50 <Jevouse> kk
20:15:05 <Jevouse> i think the horse would go a little crazy
20:15:14 <Jevouse> he would think its a horse mounting him
20:15:26 <Mekkis_x200> with the crazy gnome riding the eidoloin
20:15:36 <Jevouse> oh come on
20:15:37 <Jevouse> no way
20:15:49 <Jevouse> the horse would buckle under the weight
20:16:00 <Mekkis_x200> the gnome weighs about 15kg
20:16:07 <Jevouse> unless the eidolon has no armour
20:16:11 <Jevouse> and only 8 lances
20:16:12 <Mekkis_x200> that's less than fullplate
20:16:20 <Jevouse> yeah
20:16:23 <Mekkis_x200> the eidolon doesn't need armour
20:16:32 <Mekkis_x200> because the gnome makes ride checks
20:16:46 <Jevouse> riding on riding on ride
20:16:49 <Mekkis_x200> the horse doesn't need armour either
20:16:55 <Mekkis_x200> because the eidolon makes ride checks
20:17:06 <Jevouse> killing me you are
20:17:07 <Jevouse> lol
20:17:19 <Jevouse> also giant cat : too powerful
20:17:30 <Mekkis_x200> I prefer rocs
20:17:33 <Jevouse> make a multiclass half-elf summoner/druid and what happens?
20:17:55 <Mekkis_x200> at a high enough level
20:18:00 <Jevouse> two giant cats
20:18:02 <Mekkis_x200> say, druid 3 / summoner 4
20:18:04 <Jevouse> pounce pounce pounce
20:18:16 <Mekkis_x200> the eidolon is wielding 6 lances, riding a roc
20:18:27 <Jevouse> yeah
20:18:32 <Jevouse> and doing skydive attacks
20:18:36 <Jevouse> with roc pounce
20:18:36 <Mekkis_x200> and the gnome's riding on top
20:18:44 <Jevouse> with his own lanc
20:18:44 <Mekkis_x200> rocs don't pounce
20:18:45 <Jevouse> e
20:18:51 <Mekkis_x200> yeah, why not
20:19:00 <Jevouse> rocs don't have pounce?
20:19:01 <Brunius> They complain that Mekkis is powergaming instead?
20:19:12 <Mekkis_x200> nope
20:19:23 <Jevouse> make the eidolon ride on the giant cat
20:19:34 <Mekkis_x200> Brunius, I'm not planning on playing this charactrer
20:19:35 <Jevouse> and let the giant cat have pounce
20:19:40 <Jevouse> and rend with all four claws
20:19:44 <Avatar> why have a character you don't plan on playing
20:19:53 <Jevouse> meanwhile 7 lances stabbity stabbing
20:19:54 <Jevouse> with charge
20:19:57 <Mekkis_x200> Avatar, I'm not making this character either
20:20:09 <Jevouse> just illustrating a point
20:20:10 <Mekkis_x200> just explaining how broken summoners can get
20:20:23 <Mekkis_x200> but, just because they CAN get broken, doesn't mean they always are
20:20:28 <Jevouse> yeah
20:20:42 <Jevouse> but they're a weak class because of eidolons being the most powerful pet ever devised
20:20:47 <Hargrave> what do specails go under?
20:20:57 <Mekkis_x200> and any sane DM wouldn't allow that
20:20:59 <Jevouse> so if somehow someone lands a banish on the eidolon, well
20:21:02 <Jevouse> good luck summoner
20:21:06 <Mekkis_x200> I'm not sure what a PFS DM would do
20:21:07 <Mekkis_x200> though
20:21:24 <Mekkis_x200> Jevouse, summon eidolon is a second-level spell
20:21:38 <Jevouse> yeah, a banish and a grapple
20:21:41 <Hargrave> every time i see Avatars name i think of the sex scene from avatar
20:21:52 <Jevouse> you watched that movie too many times
20:21:56 <Mekkis_x200> blame Avatar for that
20:22:10 <Hargrave> i know >.<
20:22:22 <Jevouse> why are you watching some crap sci-fi movie
20:22:34 <Jevouse> when you could be reading something nice and historical
20:22:39 <Mekkis_x200> what else can I watch on my 3D monitor?
20:23:13 <Hargrave> so yah like i was asking specails go unde misc bouneses
20:23:18 <Brunius> There's a sex scene in Avatar?
20:23:28 * Brunius sets out to procure a copy of Avatar
20:23:36 <Jevouse> brunius
20:23:40 <Mekkis_x200> Brunius, 3dblurayiso.com
20:23:43 <Mekkis_x200> 40GB download
20:23:57 <Brunius> nty
20:24:01 <Jevouse> you prurient preteen
20:24:14 <Brunius> I'm 14...thus, a teen
20:24:17 <Brunius> and I was joking
20:24:30 <Hargrave> not the sex scene u are thinking of
20:25:05 <Jevouse> now for druid
20:25:07 <Hargrave> lol
20:25:08 <Hargrave> he says he is joking but he isnt
20:25:08 <Jevouse> you can't banish animals
20:25:22 <Jevouse> since their plane is the PMP
20:25:23 <Jevouse> so
20:25:29 <Jevouse> giant cat = lol
20:25:38 <Jevouse> pounce rip rend bleed poison
20:25:47 <Jevouse> and bite
20:26:14 <Brunius> dammit
20:26:23 <Brunius> Now I want to play Halo again
20:26:33 <Hargrave> omg i think i did it!!!!
20:26:33 <Hargrave> i think im done!!!!!!
20:26:44 <Brunius> you didn't have enough !'s
20:26:46 <Hargrave> any one want to review it
20:26:46 <Avatar> what's your character name
20:26:47 <Brunius> or 1's
20:26:50 <Brunius> or one's
20:26:53 <Jevouse> i will review it
20:26:58 <Jevouse> i read fast
20:27:08 <Hargrave> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:27:08 <Hargrave> better/
20:27:14 <Hargrave> ?
20:27:25 <Jevouse> i assume your paladin wants to be called Hargrave
20:27:29 <Brunius> ...I was joking
20:27:30 <Jevouse> is that okay
20:28:12 <Jevouse> or do you want another name
20:28:17 <Hargrave> yah
20:28:23 <Jevouse> what other name
20:28:33 <Hargrave> Hargrave is great
20:28:33 <Hargrave> lol
20:28:33 <Jevouse> Hargreaves?
20:28:37 <Jevouse> ah okay
20:28:41 <Jevouse> AVATAR
20:28:52 <Hargrave> lol
20:29:01 <Avatar> are you serious
20:29:03 <Avatar> cmon pick a real name
20:29:10 <Jevouse> GRAVE THE HARGRAVE ON HARGRAVE'S GRAVEN GRAVE
20:29:18 <Mekkis_x200> generally it's better to have a different name to your normal IRC handle
20:29:25 <Jevouse> right
20:29:29 <Jevouse> how about Hargreaves?
20:29:31 <Mekkis_x200> to distinguish between in-game and out-of-game
20:29:36 <Avatar> he can pick his own Jevouse
20:29:37 <Hargrave> lmao Jevouse
20:30:05 <Jevouse> i'm just suggesting
20:30:06 <Mekkis_x200> how about BSP
20:30:07 <Jevouse> something nice
20:30:08 <Jevouse> okay?
20:30:13 <Jevouse> Greaves and Har
20:30:18 <Jevouse> they suggest having greaves
20:30:20 <Mekkis_x200> Big Stupid Fighter
20:30:23 <Hargrave> no id prefer Hargrave ill just change my nick
20:30:23 <Jevouse> which is like, paladin
20:30:38 <Jevouse> or Gravegreaves
20:30:44 <Hargrave> >.>
20:30:50 <Mekkis_x200> what faction, if you don't mind me asking?
20:30:52 <Jevouse> paladins are grave and greaved
20:30:57 <Hargrave> *slaps Jev with a carp*
20:31:05 <Jevouse> i'll assume Andoran
20:31:07 <Mekkis_x200> no they're not
20:31:12 <Mekkis_x200> they're normally dead :P
20:31:13 <Brunius> are you using DVORAK, Mekkis?
20:31:16 * Brunius slaps Hargrave around a bit with a large trout
20:31:19 <Mekkis_x200> not chelish?
20:31:19 <Hargrave> lol yah :D
20:31:20 <Jevouse> LOL mekkis
20:31:26 <Mekkis_x200> Brunius, why do you ask?
20:31:27 <Hargrave> O.o damnit
20:31:28 <Jevouse> chelish paladins?
20:31:30 <Mekkis_x200> I tried once
20:31:32 <Jevouse> you nuts?
20:31:32 <Brunius> Just curious
20:31:32 <Jevouse> lol
20:31:42 <Jevouse> chelish antipaladin more like
20:32:00 <Mekkis_x200> Jevouse, no: all you need to do is emphasise the lawfulness, and conveniently ignore the lack of good
20:32:11 <Jevouse> that breaks his alignment
20:32:18 <Jevouse> and requires him to atone every time he ignores good
20:32:21 <Avatar> what are you going to change your nick to then
20:32:23 <Mekkis_x200> there are lawful good Chelish Hellknights
20:32:30 <Jevouse> sure
20:32:42 <Jevouse> but they usually work for the...eh....good hellknight factions
20:32:45 <Jevouse> not for the state
20:32:45 <Hargrave> oh inucoru
20:32:48 <Jevouse> as he will be doing here
20:32:50 <Mekkis_x200> what?
20:32:58 <Jevouse> yes
20:33:06 <Jevouse> serving the evil diabolic chelish state is no-go
20:33:35 <Jevouse> did he pick a faction?
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20:33:56 <Jevouse> there goes the weather control machine again
20:34:07 <Jevouse> and where the heck does octgn store decks...hrm
20:35:03 <Jevouse> in some hidden folder in my users folder
20:35:10 <Jevouse> heh
20:35:32 <Jevouse> meks, made the account SuDZillaSucks yet?
20:35:37 <Mekkis_x200> nope
20:36:01 <Jevouse> and avatar, you don't need to step 7.5' to get into the diagonal square
20:36:32 <Jevouse> Inucoru
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20:36:40 <Jevouse> where have i seen that before
20:36:53 <inucoru> there i got on mirc and not the damn web rowserone
20:37:02 <Jevouse> so
20:37:03 <inucoru> browser*
20:37:03 <Jevouse> inucoru
20:37:11 <Jevouse> are you by any chance on furdeviant.net
20:37:14 <Jevouse> or deviantart.net
20:37:17 <inucoru> < Hargrave
20:37:22 <Jevouse> or myfur.net
20:37:27 <inucoru> >.> yes....
20:37:39 <inucoru> all of them
20:37:49 <inucoru> ........ stalker!!!
20:37:51 <Jevouse> or your real name is Jacob Farley
20:38:01 <inucoru> omg wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:38:03 <Jevouse> and you're a furry?
20:38:06 <inucoru> who is this
20:38:11 <inucoru> ......
20:38:15 <inucoru> fml
20:38:20 <Brunius> hahaha
20:38:26 <Jevouse> i am googlar, googler of names
20:38:26 <Brunius> my stalking skills just got epic pwned
20:38:40 <inucoru> oh thats cheating
20:38:43 <inucoru> lol
20:38:52 <inucoru> i thought u were someone i knew for real lol
20:38:53 <Jevouse> you publicized yourself everywhere dude
20:38:59 <Brunius> I know so many furries....
20:39:03 <inucoru> ... yah it happens
20:39:15 <Brunius> Jevouse, Liam, Brock, inucoru....
20:39:15 <Avatar> I'll create a new account for you
20:39:19 <inucoru> .. it happens when you start your own website
20:39:28 <Brunius> thats just what I remember off the top of my head
20:39:33 <Jevouse> o
20:39:35 <Brunius> oh, and garaga...
20:39:36 <Jevouse> i am not a furry
20:39:43 <inucoru> ....lol
20:40:13 <Jevouse> hrm, 22, dayton, ohio, corporal currently in basra iraq
20:40:18 <inucoru> yep inucoru google it its all me lol
20:40:38 <inucoru> ..... corpral sweet i got promoted
20:40:47 <Jevouse> lol
20:40:54 <Jevouse> PFC
20:40:55 <Brunius> ha
20:40:59 <inucoru> <== still spc
20:41:06 <Brunius> specialist?
20:41:07 <Jevouse> ah
20:41:09 <Jevouse> yeah
20:41:11 <inucoru> yep
20:41:28 <inucoru> but im not in dayton anymore
20:41:34 <inucoru> well never was lol
20:41:46 <Jevouse> yeah in iraq, where else
20:41:50 <inucoru> but i live close enough to it thats just easyer to say caus its better known
20:42:09 <inucoru> ... well i mean states side
20:42:15 <Jevouse> surely
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20:42:19 <Jevouse> when's your ToD over
20:42:20 <jevti4200> moin
20:42:26 <inucoru> how did u know i was in basra?
20:42:30 <Jevouse> i guessed
20:42:43 <inucoru> realy?
20:42:44 <Brunius> hey mekkis
20:42:46 <Jevouse> yes
20:42:48 <Mekkis_x200> hey
20:42:51 <Brunius> why are you pretending to be jevouse?
20:42:51 <inucoru> good guess
20:42:53 <inucoru> lol
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20:42:59 <Mekkis_x200> it was a test
20:43:06 <Brunius> and suddenly not?
20:43:08 <Jevouse> that's my ssh account
20:43:10 <Jevouse> right there
20:43:20 <Jevouse> the biggest deployment of US troops right now in basra
20:43:22 <inucoru> i have 7 monthes left
20:43:26 <Jevouse> troublesome place, basra
20:43:33 <Mekkis_x200> Jevouse, you should be able to specify your login as jevouse, and use your private key
20:43:39 <Jevouse> :O
20:43:42 <inucoru> im only here on my way to masul
20:43:45 <Mekkis_x200> and create a dynamic tunnel
20:43:53 <Jevouse> where's my SuDZilla sucks account
20:43:59 <Jevouse> what did you do it to it
20:44:03 <Mekkis_x200> I don't like mixed case
20:44:11 <Jevouse> you should've told me
20:44:24 <Jevouse> made it sudzilla sucks
20:44:34 <Jevouse> hrm
20:44:37 <Jevouse> sudzilla foams, really
20:44:43 <Jevouse> you mean, mosul
20:44:59 <Jevouse> inucoru
20:45:09 <Jevouse> what's the mood like in basra?
20:45:44 <Jevouse> simmering, on the verge of revolt, uneasy, fracturing, held together by the barest of strings...
20:45:52 <Mekkis_x200> with all the Libyans
20:46:31 <Jevouse> takes so much time to get a stable democracy
20:46:47 <Jevouse> like ....quarter decade
20:46:51 <Jevouse> at best
20:47:17 <Jevouse> mekkis
20:47:19 <inucoru> lmao ok when it was in my word pad it looked alot better lmao
20:47:24 <Jevouse> you haven't told me how to connect
20:47:28 <inucoru> uploaded chr.
20:47:31 <Jevouse> inucoru: don't use spaces
20:47:32 <Jevouse> erm
20:47:33 <Jevouse> tabs
20:47:38 <Jevouse> only use spaces
20:47:41 <Mekkis_x200> Jevouse, let me finish my dinner
20:47:48 <inucoru> i did lol
20:47:52 <Jevouse> hrm
20:47:54 <Jevouse> yeah
20:47:56 <Jevouse> that happened to me too
20:48:08 <Jevouse> sometimes its straight, sometimes its wonky
20:48:24 <Jevouse> so inucoru, how do you feel being posted to iraq?
20:48:47 <inucoru> well better here then afganastan
20:48:50 <Jevouse> just another ToD, glad i can help democracy, piece of bullshit posting...
20:48:58 <Jevouse> the three common opinions
20:49:36 <inucoru> my reasons for joining the army and suporting this bs is for my wife and son lol
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20:49:41 <Jevouse> i see
20:49:43 <Jevouse> yeah
20:49:45 <Jevouse> the family reason
20:49:58 <inucoru> yah lol
20:50:02 <Jevouse> ohio is majority republican
20:50:06 <Jevouse> isn't it?
20:50:12 <inucoru> lol idk
20:50:33 <inucoru> i think my g-ma is .. but my dads not so they get at eachother all the time lmao
20:50:40 <Jevouse> haha
20:50:46 <Mekkis_x200> what's the difference?
20:50:51 <Jevouse> america could use a third party
20:51:04 <inucoru> what for?
20:51:07 <Jevouse> the difference is, mekkis, that democrats are more socialist and republicans are more nationalist
20:51:17 <Mekkis_x200> what do you mean
20:51:25 <Mekkis_x200> neither of the parties are socialist
20:51:27 <Jevouse> i mean exactly what i say
20:51:30 <Jevouse> no
20:51:41 <Jevouse> if you define socialist as caring for society
20:51:47 <Jevouse> which it is at its most basic level
20:51:52 <Jevouse> then the democrats do that
20:52:00 <Jevouse> state support of society , rather
20:52:08 <inucoru> oh so D&D .. yaah im in the right room .. not political debate channle lol
20:52:08 <Jevouse> they just avoid using the word because its anathema
20:52:12 <Mekkis_x200> state ownership of means of production
20:52:16 <Jevouse> no
20:52:21 <Jevouse> that's state socialism
20:52:30 <Jevouse> there are different varieties of socialism
20:52:34 <Jevouse> as many as there are countries
20:52:37 <inucoru> O.o omg realy lol
20:52:41 <Jevouse> sure
20:52:48 <Jevouse> they are all modified by national characteristics
20:53:15 <Jevouse> and about why its anathema
20:53:23 <Jevouse> USA has always been anti-communist
20:53:32 <Jevouse> and socialism has always been linked with communism, so
20:53:33 <Mekkis_x200> not always
20:53:40 <Jevouse> no, always
20:53:41 <Mekkis_x200> only since the 1910s
20:53:55 <inucoru> lol you to
20:53:55 <Jevouse> there's always been a segment of the population anti-communist
20:54:16 <Jevouse> not only since the 1910s
20:54:20 * inucoru slaps Jevouse around a bit with a large trout
20:54:22 * inucoru slaps Mekkis_x200 around a bit with a large trout
20:54:23 <Jevouse> since marx
20:54:29 <inucoru> who cares!!!!
20:54:33 <Jevouse> lol
20:54:41 <Jevouse> its ...interesting to us
20:54:42 <Jevouse> :P
20:54:47 <Mekkis_x200> I say we start a marxist revolution in the USA
20:54:55 <Jevouse> no chance in hell
20:54:56 <Mekkis_x200> and rename it to the USSA :)
20:55:00 <Jevouse> LOL
20:55:01 * Brunius slaps inucoru around a bit with a large trout
20:55:10 <Jevouse> mmm
20:55:10 <Brunius> hahaha
20:55:14 * inucoru slaps Brunius around a bit with a large trout
20:55:17 <Jevouse> mekkis i think he wants to play some PFS
20:55:22 <Jevouse> how about we oblige him
20:55:23 <inucoru> O.o what was that for?
20:55:23 <Brunius> United States of the States of America?
20:55:32 <Mekkis_x200> United Socialist States of America
20:55:35 <Jevouse> United Socialist States of America
20:55:49 <inucoru> i like USA
20:55:50 <Brunius> heh
20:56:00 <Mekkis_x200> speaking of which, who wants to register www.bomb-the.us ?
20:56:09 <Jevouse> inocoru does
20:56:14 <inucoru> ....O.o
20:56:18 <Jevouse> letter bombing
20:56:24 <Jevouse> USA style
20:56:44 <Mekkis_x200> then we can all make subdomains
20:56:46 <Jevouse> like a million catalogues in one go
20:56:50 <Jevouse> how about it inucoru
20:56:52 <Mekkis_x200> jevouse.wants.to.bomb-the.us
20:57:01 <Jevouse> lol!
20:57:01 <Mekkis_x200> brunius.wants.to.bomb-the.us
20:57:09 <Brunius> hah
20:57:11 <Jevouse> mekkis.wants.to.bomb-the.us
20:57:18 <inucoru> u guys are talking to me on an army servalenced internet.... O.o
20:57:35 <Jevouse> don't worry man
20:57:48 <Jevouse> even intel specs like a laugh
20:58:00 <Mekkis_x200> brb... some guys in suits are at the door
20:58:08 <Brunius> Even if they do track Mekkis down, it's only QLD they're bombing
20:58:15 <Brunius> It doesn't matter
20:58:20 <inucoru> they do yes ther is always that one asshole looking to get promoted
20:58:31 <Jevouse> yeah, that one asshole
20:58:35 <inucoru> lol
20:58:37 <Jevouse> who goes to his superior with mere words
20:58:41 <Jevouse> and gets demoted
20:58:44 <Jevouse> and posted to latrine duty
20:58:46 <Jevouse> forever
20:58:47 <inucoru> lol
20:58:55 <Jevouse> make way for the sensible ones i say
20:59:13 <Mekkis_x200> why.would.you.want.to.bomb-the.us
20:59:21 <Jevouse> you live in the suburbs eh inucoru
20:59:24 <Jevouse> shitty part too
20:59:31 <Jevouse> mmm...wife and 2 kids
20:59:37 <inucoru> lol
20:59:45 <Brunius> Jevouse, quit the stalking
20:59:50 <Jevouse> i'm not
20:59:50 <inucoru> 1 kid and he is only a year old lol
20:59:53 <Jevouse> i'm just guessing
20:59:56 <Jevouse> ah
21:00:01 <Jevouse> ok so the shitty suburb part is right
21:00:12 <inucoru> lol no i live on podt
21:00:15 <inucoru> post
21:00:24 <Jevouse> so good suburb
21:00:25 <Jevouse> okay
21:00:30 <inucoru> lol
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21:01:16 <inucoru> so jev you live in the gay side of town with your bf...?
21:01:20 <Jevouse> no
21:01:21 <inucoru> hmmmm
21:01:25 <inucoru> lol
21:01:26 <inucoru> jk
21:01:34 <Jevouse> try to guess better man
21:01:39 <inucoru> lol
21:01:44 <inucoru> i cant guess
21:01:51 <Jevouse> the suburbization of the US going on for a looong time now
21:01:54 <inucoru> <=== is lame at the guess game
21:01:56 <Jevouse> also the rising divorce rate
21:02:04 <Jevouse> ...so how's your wife doing
21:02:06 <Jevouse> :P
21:02:42 <inucoru> good she is upset cause i just had to leave her again cause my mid tour leave was up but good
21:02:48 <Jevouse> married at 18?
21:02:56 <inucoru> ... yep
21:02:57 <Jevouse> you guys keep marrying younger every year
21:03:04 <inucoru> lol
21:03:05 <Jevouse> childhood sweetheart?
21:03:14 <Brunius> cya guy
21:03:16 <GlompNinja> ...married at 18
21:03:17 <Brunius> +s
21:03:19 <GlompNinja> For real?
21:03:26 <Jevouse> he's 22
21:03:28 <Jevouse> glomp
21:03:32 <Brunius> I gotta like, go to sleep, or something...
21:03:35 <Brunius> cya
21:03:36 <inucoru> yah y?
21:03:41 <Jevouse> at least they have that part down
21:03:43 Brunius has quit (Quit: Sleep is good)
21:04:02 <inucoru> wait what?
21:04:06 <GlompNinja> Enjoy your fucking misery.
21:04:07 <inucoru> what are you saying
21:04:08 <Jevouse> childhood or high school sweetheart?
21:04:10 <Jevouse> or college
21:04:18 <inucoru> middle school
21:04:25 <inucoru> met when we were 14
21:04:32 <Jevouse> yeah, that's a trend too
21:04:39 <inucoru> lol
21:04:52 <Jevouse> glomp's our resident cynic
21:05:12 <Jevouse> and she's ....a.....hrm.....brunette
21:05:15 <GlompNinja> Pretty much.
21:05:23 <inucoru> yah
21:05:34 <Jevouse> mm ohioans and brunettes
21:05:37 <GlompNinja> So. Last night. I ran through 16 yards, dodging the pork brigade
21:05:38 <inucoru> you lookng at photo now
21:05:40 <Jevouse> no
21:05:42 <Jevouse> not at all
21:05:46 <Jevouse> doing this all blind
21:06:05 <inucoru> lol i cant beleive you u know that
21:06:05 <Jevouse> she work as .....teacher?
21:06:14 <inucoru> ... her dream
21:06:17 <Jevouse> or some sort of state employee
21:06:19 <inucoru> not atm
21:06:23 <inucoru> no
21:06:29 <Jevouse> ok
21:06:31 <inucoru> stay at home mom
21:06:38 <Jevouse> taking care of the kid for now
21:06:38 <Jevouse> yeah
21:06:39 <Jevouse> probably
21:06:43 <inucoru> yah
21:06:46 <Jevouse> so she wants to be a teacher....english?
21:06:59 <inucoru> reading
21:07:04 <Jevouse> tries to correct your horrible spelling ?
21:07:10 <inucoru> yep
21:07:12 <inucoru> lol
21:07:21 <Jevouse> opposites attract type
21:07:27 <inucoru> lol
21:08:01 <inucoru> but honestly thats alot of wifes
21:08:08 <Jevouse> yeah
21:08:09 <Jevouse> a lot
21:08:12 <Jevouse> nothing new there
21:08:22 <Jevouse> like my own mom and dad
21:08:23 <Jevouse> lol
21:08:31 <Jevouse> i can't believe they ever got together
21:08:42 <inucoru> lol
21:08:45 <Jevouse> but life is now stranger than fiction
21:08:59 <Jevouse> and she's a green yeah?
21:09:05 <Jevouse> likes eco stuff
21:09:11 <Jevouse> environmentally conscious, etc.
21:09:24 <inucoru> ... not to much
21:09:24 <inucoru> lol
21:09:31 <Jevouse> and you smoke
21:09:39 <inucoru> .....
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21:09:47 <inucoru> you know you are to good at this
21:10:00 <Jevouse> no
21:10:02 <Jevouse> army people smoke
21:10:08 <inucoru> true
21:10:11 <Jevouse> its one thing they do to relieve tedium
21:10:15 <Jevouse> i was in the army myself
21:10:15 <Jevouse> i know
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21:10:24 <inucoru> ah ic
21:10:25 <Jevouse> diehard non smokers suddenly puffing
21:11:03 <inucoru> i only smoke durring deployment at home i dont at all lol
21:11:08 <Jevouse> yeah
21:11:11 <Jevouse> that's what they do
21:11:21 <Jevouse> at home you don't get that bored
21:11:29 <inucoru> yah
21:11:32 <Jevouse> plenty of things to occupy yourself with
21:11:40 <Jevouse> health of wife and child to concern yourself with as well
21:11:48 <inucoru> yep
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21:11:59 <Jevouse> wife drives a ....Prius?
21:12:09 <inucoru> lol no pontiac G^
21:12:11 <inucoru> G6
21:12:15 <Jevouse> aha
21:12:17 <Jevouse> yeah okay
21:12:21 <Jevouse> gas guzzler
21:12:22 <Jevouse> but nevermind
21:12:25 <inucoru> lol
21:12:32 <Jevouse> after all, that's why you're in iraq
21:12:36 <Jevouse> one of the reasons
21:12:42 <Jevouse> cheap(er) gas
21:12:55 <inucoru> heh thats what they say but i dont see it
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21:13:02 <inucoru> or hear it
21:13:11 <Jevouse> you wouldn't
21:13:14 <Jevouse> why would they let the world know
21:13:24 <Jevouse> and sully the image more
21:13:28 <inucoru> im here training the iraq army so they can take care of them selfs when we leave
21:13:39 <Jevouse> yeah
21:13:43 <Jevouse> that's what they say too
21:13:51 <Mekkis_x200> inucoru, automatic?
21:14:06 <inucoru> well i mean i know we are doing that i teach them how to real schematics
21:14:09 <Jevouse> nevermind that the presence of any US force is already a rather influential presence
21:14:28 <inucoru> yes Mekkis
21:14:33 <Jevouse> oh boy
21:14:37 <Jevouse> automatic even
21:14:42 <inucoru> lol
21:14:47 <inucoru> she cant drive stick
21:14:51 <Jevouse> but i guess she can't hack a stick
21:14:56 <Mekkis> Jevouse, what do you drive?
21:14:59 <inucoru> lol yah
21:15:02 <Jevouse> i used to drive
21:15:04 <Jevouse> trucks
21:15:07 <Jevouse> and vans
21:15:08 <Jevouse> and jeeps
21:15:14 <inucoru> lol
21:15:17 <Jevouse> now i don't drive anything
21:15:24 <Jevouse> public transport ftw
21:15:41 <Jevouse> let other people drive me for once
21:15:49 <inucoru> lmao
21:15:50 <Mekkis> time to start logging into machines with username: Administrator, password: password again
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