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00:00:03 <force> wow.
00:00:06 <force> how do you do that
00:00:12 <stefan> any existing member can
00:00:50 <stefan> we can create promo codes with x discount, and we get 97-x credited to our account
00:01:36 <force> what would you do for me? :)
00:02:19 <stefan> gets messy if you want a dedicated ip or not, I can add one to code for $30
00:02:34 <force> well i would pay for 1 year in advance
00:02:48 <force> + if required the ip
00:03:55 <stefan> heh, I always thought about getting people to pick a number between 1 & 97 (or 67 with an ip) and I'd toss a coin
00:04:41 <force> if its between 1 & 97 how about 50, if its 67 how about 35
00:04:43 <stefan> but you can find codes around online everywhere now anyway, whatever :)
00:05:29 <force> heheh
00:05:48 <drenzium> what exactly are you's discussing?
00:07:12 <force> cron job based rsync over ssh backups
00:07:19 <force> rsync or svn..
00:07:22 <force> heh
00:08:29 <force> so stef it says one year at 9% off is $119.40
00:10:00 <force> i wonder where tazdevil hangs these days
00:12:31 <stefan> promo codes jackass and jackassip created, seems the ip on that is lifetime regardless of how long you sign up for
00:12:53 <stefan> but once you're a member you have to pay full price to keep going
00:12:59 <force> yeah
00:13:10 <force> how much do you save off the $119.40 then?
00:14:30 <stefan> seems you save either $59 or $35 + >$30 ip)
00:14:57 <force> cool.
00:15:17 <stefan> guess the cost of a 'lifetime' ip is somewhat variable
00:15:45 <force> what is their control panel like
00:16:02 <stefan> I usually hate them, but apart from being a little slow sometimes it's quite good
00:16:23 <stefan> think they've got a demo, but can send you some screenies if you want
00:16:30 <force> that would be cool
00:16:31 <stefan> just let me know what areas you need
00:16:37 <force> well
00:16:39 <force> actually
00:16:44 <force> say i signed up now
00:16:53 <force> can i upgrade to a dedicated ip later
00:17:02 <stefan> yeah, but the $30/lifetime is probably a good deal
00:17:58 <force> hmm.. ok ill wait for the email :P lol
00:19:40 <force> yeah thats nice looking
00:19:58 <drenzium> do you guys actually get any passers-by in relation to coding at all? lol
00:20:09 <force> not as much as we used to
00:20:11 <stefan> occasionally
00:20:28 <drenzium> i think the whole phase has died eh?
00:20:39 <stefan> ohh yeah, you want backups don't you
00:20:51 <stefan> this may be of interest
00:21:08 <force> well its mainly geeky stuff in here anyways
00:21:23 <stefan> Files Forever
00:21:23 <stefan> Welcome to the brand new online file archiving, sharing, selling service from DreamHost!
00:21:23 <stefan> With Files Forever, every file you upload is stored by us forever, with no recurring cost!
00:21:23 <stefan> You are able to download your files as many times as you'd like, forever.
00:21:23 <stefan> You are able to send your files to your friends and family to download, forever.
00:21:24 <stefan> You are even able to sell your files to the public and we'll handle all the payment processing for you, forever!
00:21:31 <stefan> http://wiki.dreamhost.com/index.php/Files_Forever
00:21:45 <force> that is crazy man
00:21:46 <stefan> cost would add up though
00:21:48 <force> i am impressed
00:22:07 <stefan> $.01/4 MB once off
00:22:37 <force> ahh i see
00:22:54 <stefan> nice though: (Note, all bandwidth and storage used by Files Forever files do not count towards your hosting plan at all!)
00:25:44 <force> yeah man im impressed
00:26:03 <force> donno how i would ever compete lol
00:26:20 <stefan> yeah, really not worth it unless you're offering service others can't
00:42:37 <force> haha
00:42:40 <force> check out this responce
00:42:48 <force> Unfortunately I'm not quite sure what you're referencing. SSH access is already secure and there's nothing that we have that requires you use a unique IP address to authenticate via SSH. Are you instead referencing SSL certificates that are used with HTTPS? I'll need more information about exactly what you're writing about so that I can better help you.
00:43:19 <force> i don't think he is very technical minded ;P
00:44:02 <stefan> they're usually pretty good, the whole requiring a unique ip for host keys is a bit confusing already
00:44:21 <force> yeah doesn't make any logical sense
00:45:13 <force> yeah he responded
00:45:17 <force> 'definately can do that'
00:45:30 <force> apparently he has hundreds of customers that do exactly that
00:45:31 <force> heh
00:45:41 <force> alright wicked
00:45:43 <force> ill sign up now
00:45:46 <stefan> wonder why I can't then
00:46:08 <stefan> -rw-rw-r-- 1 stefanau pg1217924 589 2007-07-27 03:05 /home/stefanau/.ssh/authorized_keys
00:46:11 <force> you created a rsa/dsa key with ssh-keygen and cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
00:46:20 <stefan> same key as I use elsewhere
00:46:29 <force> ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa -l foo somesever
00:46:31 <force> ?
00:46:50 <force> hmm
00:47:06 <force> some are picky and need authorized_keys2 file
00:47:13 <stefan> Oct 17 00:16:29 freebsd sshd[95536]: Accepted publickey for stefan from 192.168.1.100 port 2174 ssh2
00:47:15 <stefan> no problem at home
00:47:16 <stefan> hmm
00:47:20 <force> weird
00:47:39 <stefan> nope
00:47:43 <force> what's -vvv say
00:48:30 <stefan> have to put my private key back on the server, securecrt just says denied
00:48:39 <force> oh
00:49:01 <force> so promo code is jackass (grin)
00:50:58 <stefan> hmm, that doesn't like my passphrase
00:51:50 <force> :\
00:52:18 <stefan> I just put it in securecrt a few minutes ago, ah well
00:53:56 <stefan> did have it working from ~/.ssh/identity ages ago, but before dreamhost
00:54:28 <stefan> now with dual lcds I tend to use windows for ssh, not a nix box
00:56:12 <force> ahh yeah
00:56:21 <force> well i just paid for it
00:56:23 <force> so heh
01:00:39 <force> just gotta find the 'ssh' access page lol
01:02:06 <force> ahh i see it
01:05:34 <force> what are you using as a host to connect to?
01:06:43 <stefan> you'll be assigned a web server, in my case boxster (.dreamhost.com)
01:06:50 <force> ahh okay
01:08:32 <force> hehe works awesome
01:08:59 <stefan> most things there do, load is the main problem, but that seems to improving
01:09:19 <stefan> I've been putting load avgs on boxster in to a rrd since I signed up, I think it works, just can't display it
01:11:06 <stefan> http://dh.stefan.id.au/rrd/ it's just an older version than the cgi can handle
01:12:45 <force> i can see the files in there
01:12:53 <force> ahh
01:12:56 <stefan> yeah, just nothing on there to graph it nicely
01:13:02 <stefan> rrds seem to be valid
01:13:07 <force> i see
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18:04:07 <Lish> sup hoes
18:13:23 <Lish> and spade
18:13:33 <Bozza> lol
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18:18:37 <Bozza> Howdy Lish :)
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19:43:04 <Lish> i no feel well
19:54:21 <force> Me fail English, that's unpossible!
20:18:55 <Lish> :P
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22:49:30 <MrRee> hello, does anyone have a wed addy for a good script either programed for Austnet or relatively easy to convert?
22:50:49 <force> lol gadjet script ^_^
22:52:44 <MrRee> the lol makes me think that u jest..... i guess the answer to my question is no, no one know a good script. I'd thank you for your time, but you didn't give any, so i guess i should say thanks for nothing... cya
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23:07:25 <force> lol i was serious
23:08:55 <stefan> you were?
23:09:06 <force> yeah carson has a script i've used it
23:09:22 <force> what is happening with the scripters-austnet.org site
23:09:27 <force> i can host it NP for free
23:09:44 <stefan> hosting isn't the problem, it's bothering setting it up when nobody really uses it
23:09:52 <force> ahh okay
23:10:04 <stefan> and converting some things from old php3 days still
23:10:07 <stefan> eg register_globals
23:10:14 <force> ah :)
23:10:29 <force> still its always handy to have up
23:10:43 <stefan> yeah, might get around to it later
23:11:08 <force> man dreamhost is awesome ey, cheers for that
23:11:27 <stefan> no problem, hope the loads stay ok
23:11:31 <force> i have my backup script taring my /home directory and encrypting it with gpg and scping it up
23:11:38 <stefan> 06:11:33 up 109 days, 20:38, 2 users, load average: 16.14, 12.97, 11.01
23:11:40 <stefan> on mine
23:11:47 <force> i have kratos
23:11:59 <stefan> but guess you don't really need much as far as resources
23:12:36 <force> [kratos]$ uptime
23:12:36 <force> 06:12:23 up 11 days, 15:18, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.15
23:12:38 <force> lol
23:12:49 <stefan> lucky bastard
23:13:03 <stefan> [boxster]$ wc -l /etc/passwd
23:13:03 <stefan> 823 /etc/passwd
23:13:10 <force> massive load average on yours
23:13:11 <force> damn
23:13:35 <force> only 291 on mine
23:13:54 <stefan> that's still nice for that many users
23:14:16 <force> it makes me wonder how these companys start out
23:14:37 <force> they must have had a few hundred thousand dollars to chuck at it
23:15:03 <stefan> yeah, not really worth trying in the industry now though, too hard to compete without having to cut corners somewhere
23:15:13 <stefan> unless there's something new
23:15:50 <force> true. i like the whole idea of having it free to users but recommending they donate
23:16:09 <force> eg bur.st
23:16:37 <stefan> too many would abuse though
23:16:47 <stefan> for real public ones
23:16:57 <force> indeed
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