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// #scripters — 2007-10-10

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15:33:49 <schnoowork> any people who are awesome with regex in here ?
15:34:49 <Carson> s/schnoowork//g
15:34:53 <Carson> problem solvered
15:35:08 <schnoowork> you fail at life
15:36:57 <Carson> you fail at existing.
15:37:17 <schnoowork> then who are you talking to
15:37:40 <Carson> hmmm, checkmate sucks :(
15:37:46 <schnoowork> lol
15:37:51 <schnoowork> so good at regex by any chance :P
15:38:01 <Carson> not really, thats almost all i know
15:38:04 <Carson> what you trying to do?
15:38:18 <schnoowork> what ever happened to triffid and tr1ple, they were awesome
15:38:24 <schnoowork> thats a name i havent heard in ages tr1ple
15:38:40 <schnoowork> i need to create a regex pattern that splits up long words insentences and create them into 2 words so it doesnt effect the little mobile layouts
15:38:51 <Carson> i see
15:39:19 <force> im not sure regex can do splits
15:39:24 <force> i think its just matching
15:39:48 <schnoowork> preg_replace
15:39:54 <Carson> it'd probably be able to do some form of length matching though
15:39:55 <schnoowork> but yeah someone just said i would need several
15:40:01 <Carson> i wouldn't use regex like that though
15:40:07 <Carson> len, strpos
15:40:13 <force> yeah
15:40:32 <force> in what language?
15:40:33 <force> perl ?
15:40:34 <schnoowork> looping through every word would be HELL
15:40:39 <force> php.. ?
15:40:49 <schnoowork> preg uses perl regex sytanx but its in php
15:41:04 <schnoowork> some articles can be upto 20,000 chars. looping that would be a killer
15:41:36 <force> a loop is inevidible
15:42:34 <schnoowork> ahh dammit, really ?
15:42:39 <force> depends how you want to split it too
15:42:57 <force> like turn a word that is 8 characters in a hypenated form or something?
15:43:37 <schnoowork> ahh i could just do a loop and wordwrap
15:43:39 <schnoowork> but thats bad
15:43:58 <schnoowork> thinking of making thisisareallylongword into something like thisisareally- longword
15:44:01 <schnoowork> can i just match long words
15:44:04 <schnoowork> so do something like
15:44:32 <schnoowork> $string = preg_match('pattern',wordwrap($1,20,'&nbsp;'),$string);
15:45:06 <force> hmm
15:45:15 <force> just doesn't seem the most apt solution
15:45:40 <schnoowork> the problem is i cant find a solution
15:45:49 <schnoowork> and i need it because its for wap browsers, so they need to have it small
15:46:01 <schnoowork> looping would have alot more overhead
15:46:23 <force> wouldn't css solve that
15:46:49 <force> there wouldn't really need to be any server side processing code
15:47:17 <schnoowork> its really only available on IE
15:47:25 <schnoowork> and CSS is bare and bones and mobile phones
15:47:34 <schnoowork> its abit here and there, and each phone has some more css or less
15:47:37 <schnoowork> so you have to keep it basic
15:47:42 <force> i see
15:47:49 <force> i just thought the browser would take care of it
15:47:55 <force> and if not, then manually align things using css
15:48:08 <force> small font etc
15:48:24 <schnoowork> some browsers dont even allow font sizing
15:48:30 <schnoowork> but most do
15:48:55 <schnoowork> but still if you are using a 176px width phone, and the word is 200px wide, what can you do but to split it :P
15:49:17 <force> hmm
15:49:56 <force> it just doesn't seem like it would be something you would have to worry about
15:50:09 <force> i'm fairly certain most browsers would handle it automatically
15:50:55 <schnoowork> we have checked and they dont, although some do
15:52:07 <force> well i certainly wouldn't implement a php solution splitting etc.
15:52:15 <force> maybe java/css if necessary
15:52:43 <force> just seems very strange that the browser wouldn't resize the words if the window was a fixed width
16:14:02 <schnoowork> its mainly bigger browsers like oepra mini and that
16:14:06 <schnoowork> they work the same as a web browser
16:14:10 <schnoowork> and a web browser doesnt split
16:14:25 <schnoowork> and i cant use midlets because they dont work from within the browser but as an external application
16:14:31 <schnoowork> and javascript isnt on alot of phones
16:14:35 <schnoowork> so PHP is really the only way
16:14:53 <schnoowork> im trying something like '/[A-Za-z]{1,15}/' but that doesnt seem to work :\
16:27:26 <schnoowork> ok got it partly working :)
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