// #scripters — 2007-10-06
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13:52:41 <force> anyone around?
13:52:45 <force> stef?
13:53:12 * magik waves
13:54:03 <force> I have the option of buying corsair 2x1gb ddr3 pc8500 (1066mhz) with a CAS latency of 7-7-7-21 or corsair 2x1gb ddr3 pc10600 (1333mhz) with a CAS latency of 9-9-9-27
13:54:28 <force> even though the latter has a higher FSB speed i am wondering how the CAS latency would affect proformance
13:54:50 <force> since it strobes with a higher latency :/ i don't think its worth the faster fsb *shrug*
13:54:51 <force> any one know?
13:55:31 * magik doesn't know
13:55:33 <force> i am assuming because of the faster fsb transfer it would greatly out proform the pc8500
13:55:58 <force> hmm
13:56:07 <magik> i would assume the latter as well, but thats an uneducated assumption
13:56:10 <magik> so *shrug*
13:56:23 <force> yeah i am not sure either
13:56:31 <force> my bet is on the latter
13:56:34 <force> but heh ..
13:58:28 <force> http://rafb.net/p/lyeD6i77.html
13:58:31 <force> these are the specs
13:59:04 <Timegrinder> there's actually a calculation you can do to see what the ram latency would be
13:59:15 <Timegrinder> but I don't remember it, the formula's available on the net somewhere
13:59:50 <Timegrinder> I would think the 9-9-9 would run faster though
13:59:56 <force> i just realised the cpu has a lower fsb speed than the ram
14:00:02 <force> hrm
14:00:32 <force> i thought the lower CAS/RAS the faster heap dword ptr access ;P
14:01:37 <Timegrinder> you can get faster memory access with RAM that's got higher timings but also a higher frequency
14:02:42 <Timegrinder> eg, my 3-3-3-12 667 gets outdone by 4-4-4-16 800
14:02:50 <force> oh ok
14:02:54 <Timegrinder> by 15ns
14:02:59 <Timegrinder> (65 vs 50)
14:03:33 <force> hmm i think at this point the cpu is the bottleneck (apart from hdd)
14:04:19 <Timegrinder> HDD shouldn't really bottleneck general performance unless you were paging
14:04:39 <Timegrinder> obviously load times for some things will be slower than they could be, but calculatory things shouldn't be slowed by it
14:05:36 <Timegrinder> what's the CPU?
14:05:50 <force> http://rafb.net/p/lyeD6i77.html
14:05:55 <Timegrinder> oh yeah, sorry
14:06:06 <force> i could raid it
14:06:21 <force> but i donno if i can afford the extra hdds ;P i don't wanna spend too much
14:07:01 <Timegrinder> where the hell are you buying it from?
14:07:39 <force> http://www.stonebridgecomputing.com.au/catalog
14:08:13 <Timegrinder> building it yourself?
14:08:21 <force> yeah dude
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14:08:29 <Timegrinder> considered MSY?
14:08:37 <force> i have but they don't have any ddr3
14:08:46 <Timegrinder> well you could buy what you can from MSY
14:08:56 <force> ahh.. true
14:09:13 <Timegrinder> Gigabyte P35C-DS3R (DDR2+DDR3)
14:09:13 <Timegrinder> 172
14:09:15 <Timegrinder> for instance
14:09:26 <Timegrinder> there's like $30, and there's another $25 saved on the HDD
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14:09:42 <Timegrinder> sorry, $40
14:09:44 <Timegrinder> on the HDD
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14:11:25 <force> ahh true
14:11:28 <force> i think i may do that
14:11:47 <force> thanks :P
14:12:09 <Timegrinder> hehe yeah
14:12:15 <Timegrinder> might be more effort in getting from two differnet places
14:12:18 <Timegrinder> but you're going to save a tonne
14:12:26 <Timegrinder> which means more bang for your buck
14:12:53 <force> ill just get the sound blaster & ram from them then
14:12:57 <force> and get the rest at msy
14:14:23 <Timegrinder> let me know how much you save :P
14:14:32 <Timegrinder> (or would save, getting the same parts as on the list)
14:15:53 <force> alright ;)
14:30:06 <force> probably close to $200
14:30:11 <force> not including postage
14:30:18 <force> so heh.. good saving
14:34:19 <Timegrinder> postage?
15:01:03 <force> yeah if i had got them from the online website instead of msy
15:01:11 <force> there would have been about a hundred postage
15:47:05 <stefan> jack, the antec psus suck now since they moved manufacturing from taiwan to china, see if you can get that case psuless and get a corsair psu
15:47:29 <stefan> well, they don't really suck, but not up to their old standard, big resellers have several RMAs a week of the new ones
15:51:54 <force> oh really okay
15:54:06 <stefan> the 520W one (which I just got myself) is probably about right for you, the 600W one is great value but overkill unless you're going to SLI two high end cards really
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15:57:34 <force> ah yep
16:39:05 <Timegrinder> whoa
16:39:14 <Timegrinder> so the amount saved is upwards of $200?
16:42:30 <force> yeah
16:42:42 <force> so now i can get 2x500gb sata hdd ;P
16:47:45 <Timegrinder> aren't I fantastic?
16:48:05 <force> sure ;)
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21:23:59 <Nicol> yo
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23:41:15 <class_clown> wwhen im using any dvd (program) do i still need to use dvd decryptor when using shink as well
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