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00:12:57 Join: Warren1984 ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
00:13:04 <Warren1984> hi all
00:13:10 <Warren1984> work tomorrow
00:13:16 <anotherirc3r> damn you Warren. get online when i'm leaving
00:13:22 <anotherirc3r> lol
00:14:48 <Warren1984> I did it on purpose
00:15:01 <anotherirc3r> knew it!
00:15:31 <anotherirc3r> anyway, ninight :)
00:15:32 <anotherirc3r> *hugs*
00:16:01 <Tigger_> night anotherirc3r
00:16:15 <anotherirc3r> night Tigger!
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00:18:08 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what can you do about finding ordinary tasks draining
00:18:21 <Tigger_> like drains?
00:18:24 <Warren1984> and not liking the security of working for a company
00:18:38 <Warren1984> yeah like it sucks the energy out of you
00:18:44 <Tigger_> give me an example of a draining task
00:18:57 <Warren1984> just simple day-to-day tasks
00:19:05 <Warren1984> like cleaning the dishes
00:19:18 <Warren1984> doing housework
00:19:21 <Tigger_> you could get a dishwasher
00:19:24 <Warren1984> working for a company
00:19:41 <Warren1984> and setting financial goals to save up towards
00:20:04 <Tigger_> while it's ok to not bother doing the dishes, you MUST save
00:20:28 <Warren1984> well making money and saving go hand-in-hand
00:20:48 <Tigger_> no they don't, they're two different things
00:20:49 <Warren1984> you must make more money in order to save more money
00:21:55 <Tigger_> a higher income will allow you to save more, but the act of saving remains exactly the same whether you are on a low or high income
00:22:11 <Tigger_> a huge number of people on high incomes manage to waste it all
00:22:14 <Tigger_> save nothing
00:22:37 <Warren1984> a high income makes it easier to save
00:22:46 <Tigger_> no it doesn't
00:23:07 <erlich> income is like hard drive capacity, if you use a lot of data it will always get filled
00:23:08 <Tigger_> a high income comes with more temptations, like going on silly international holidays
00:23:13 <doctor> Just have very little interest in things and you save much
00:23:45 <Tigger_> doctor is right, though you can have interest in cheap or free things, like watching youtube videos, or playing games
00:26:20 <Warren1984> like lish Tigger_?
00:26:45 <Tigger_> it's just one example of how someone can be on a high income, but blow large amounts of money very quickly
00:27:00 <Warren1984> yeah that is what Lish does
00:27:22 <Tigger_> big holidays would wear me out actually, all that travelling and rushing about
00:28:25 <Warren1984> it opens new perspectives and understaning of new cultures
00:28:31 <Tigger_> it doesn't
00:28:55 <Warren1984> but I think it's still good to value hardwork and want the security of working for a company
00:29:07 <Warren1984> even a simple job like delivering flyers
00:29:23 <Tigger_> as for gaining a cultural perspective, it's a very expensive way to get less than what a $20 book would give you
00:29:50 <Tigger_> what security is there in working for a company?
00:29:59 <Warren1984> more money
00:30:14 <Tigger_> but they sack their staff all the time
00:30:15 <Warren1984> so you can spend a little more
00:30:31 <Warren1984> then you have to be open to learning new skills
00:32:31 <Tigger_> like you had a good job doing phone support, but then they moved the call centre to the Philippines
00:33:07 <Warren1984> you need to be adaptable
00:33:15 <Warren1984> and willing to learn life long
00:34:21 <Tigger_> and are you?
00:34:55 <Warren1984> depends on the job
00:35:13 <Tigger_> but you have to pay for that learning, with expensive Tafe courses
00:35:47 <Warren1984> depends
00:36:03 <Warren1984> not if it's a traineeship or apprenticeship
00:36:11 <Tigger_> Lish planned it better, she had her company pay for her uni education
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00:41:46 <Tigger_> I have placed a towel along the base of the door, to stop cold drafts blowing in underneath
00:54:17 <Warren1984> nite all
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01:11:15 <TiSK> made extended remix of my ready 2 do ya track
01:11:29 <TiSK> was 3min46 now its 7min9ec
01:14:34 <TiSK> one that trebles in that song is actually a kick drum
01:14:35 <TiSK> lol
01:17:43 <TiSK> lol got 1 play on sc soon as uploaded it and it wasnt me
01:17:51 <TiSK> :?
01:33:09 <TiSK> lol made another song
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05:01:35 Topic Is: Jaden Smith has some competition: http://imgur.com/XEs2HFD
05:01:35 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Fri Jul 24 02:02:00 2015
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06:21:06 <Marttin> I quite like it tisk
06:21:06 <Marttin> At some point it seemed close to chill-out
06:21:06 <TiSK> kewl
06:33:21 <TiSK> https://youtu.be/o2IF9MOvUW8
06:33:21 <progressive> [ start techno 2015 - YouTube ] - youtu.be
06:33:21 <TiSK> is another i made
06:33:21 <TiSK> today
09:42:00 <ajnin> hi
11:09:00 <Tigger_> Australian television star Maggie Kirkpatrick has been charged with child sex offences by Victorian police.
11:09:00 <Tigger_> In a statement, police confirmed the 74-year-old had been charged with two counts of indecent assault and one count of gross indecency with a person under 16.
11:09:00 <Tigger_> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-28/prisoner-star-maggie-kirkpatrick-charged-with-child-sex-offences/6652464
11:09:00 <progressive> [ Maggie Kirkpatrick, star of Prisoner, charged with child sex offences by Victoria police - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
11:09:00 <Tigger_> so she really was The Freak
11:57:00 <Warren1984> hi all
11:57:00 <Warren1984> I woke up at 7am today
11:57:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
11:57:00 <Warren1984> was ment to go to work but the rain cancelled it
11:57:00 <Warren1984> hey tig
11:57:00 <Tigger_> so you got to sleep in
11:57:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor Marttin
11:57:00 <Warren1984> nuh I was playing video games
11:57:00 <doctor> hey warren
11:58:00 <Warren1984> GTA5
11:58:00 <Warren1984> I am a few points of from becoming level 79
11:58:00 <Warren1984> at level 80 I unlock the combat machine gun
12:00:00 <Tigger_> how many hours did it take to get to level 79?
12:00:00 <Tigger_> hi doctor
12:00:00 <Tigger_> I feel a bit ill today
12:00:00 <Tigger_> from the heater
12:04:00 <doctor> hey tigger
12:08:00 <Warren1984> past 3 months
12:08:00 <Warren1984> hey anotherirc3r
12:08:00 <Warren1984> Jen
12:08:00 <Tigger_> the problem is that I go to sleep when it's freezing, with the heater on, but hours later it has warmed up and the heater is still on, so it feels quite sickening
12:08:00 <Tigger_> hi anotherirc3r
12:08:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ routine and structure is compareable to the army
12:08:00 <Warren1984> it starts off hard and then gets easier over time
12:08:00 <anotherirc3r> hey Warren :)
12:09:00 <Tigger_> the other day you said you didn't want to join the army
12:10:00 <Warren1984> no I don't want to join
12:10:00 <Warren1984> but it's an analogy
12:10:00 <Warren1984> the same principle
12:15:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ the only way to feel best when working is to do a job you enjoy right?
12:16:00 <Tigger_> yes, that is called a self-actualising job
12:17:00 <Warren1984> wb Jen-banger
12:17:00 <anotherirc3r> thanks Warren
12:17:00 <anotherirc3r> what was my quit message?
12:18:00 <Tigger_> rather
12:18:00 <Tigger_> * anotherirc3r has quit (Connection closed)
12:19:00 <anotherirc3r> ahh, okay
12:19:00 <anotherirc3r> thanks
12:29:00 <Warren1984> were you trying to modify it?
12:30:00 <anotherirc3r> nah
12:34:00 <Tigger_> she was on Hey Dad too: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/prisoner-hey-dad-star-maggie-kirkpatrick-on-child-sex-charges/story-fnpp4dl6-1227459283034
12:34:00 <progressive> [ No Cookies | Herald Sun ] - www.heraldsun.com.au
12:34:00 <Tigger_> Victoria Police’s Sexual Offences and Child Abuse Investigation Team charged Kirkpatrick, 74, with two counts of indecent assault and one count of gross indecency with a person under the age of 16.
12:34:00 <Tigger_> The Herald Sun understands the charges relate to an incident in the 1980s involving a 13-year-old girl, who police sources said was not connected to the entertainment industry.
12:35:00 <anotherirc3r> yuck
12:37:00 <Tigger_> the Jimmy Saville revelations in the UK indicated there was a bit of a celebrity network of paedos, I wonder if Australia has something similar
12:44:00 <Warren1984> tigger these are the solutions for you:
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 1. save money instead of spending it
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 2. find a job you enjoy so that you feel best when working
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 3. think about the financial security you recieve from working
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 4. dress appropriately to not look weird
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 5. be more logical than abstract
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 6. value tradition
12:44:00 <Warren1984> 7. value hard work
12:44:00 <Warren1984> like I say making money and saving money go hand in hand
12:45:00 <Tigger_> they do not go hand in hand
12:45:00 <Warren1984> yes they do
12:45:00 <Tigger_> they're completely separate
12:45:00 <Warren1984> the more you make the more you can save
12:45:00 <Warren1984> depending on your attitude
12:45:00 <Warren1984> and decision making
12:45:00 <Tigger_> they are totally unrelated strategies
12:46:00 <Warren1984> since you are already a good saver, you could be making more money
12:46:00 <Warren1984> nope
12:46:00 <Tigger_> you are wrong
12:46:00 <Warren1984> D$P = $24K a year
12:46:00 <Warren1984> working part time $30K+ a year
12:46:00 <Warren1984> you are already financially prudent
12:47:00 <Warren1984> makes logical sense to me
12:47:00 <Tigger_> the habit of saving money remains exactly the same regardless of your income
12:47:00 <doctor> D$P and sell coloured paper clips on ebay
12:47:00 <Tigger_> well it's not logical
12:47:00 <Warren1984> If you earned $6k more per year working part time that is $6K you could put away each year
12:47:00 <doctor> If I was more a people person I'd consider selling stuff over the internet
12:47:00 <Warren1984> doctor is what I am saying make sense?
12:48:00 <Tigger_> you can take two extremes, a rapper who earns millions, then loses it all, or a D$P'er who saves
12:48:00 <Warren1984> but you are already a good saver
12:48:00 <doctor> You can learn to be a good saver
12:48:00 <Warren1984> so why not get a part time job and earn more so that you have more to save
12:48:00 <doctor> If you are on DSP and work part-time you could save more if you wished
12:48:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ all depends on your decision making
12:48:00 <Tigger_> I'm not saying you can't have a higher income, but income and saving have absolutely nothing to do with each other
12:49:00 <Warren1984> exactly my point doctor
12:49:00 <doctor> Helps to have a goal in mind if you want to save
12:49:00 <Warren1984> they do
12:49:00 <Warren1984> the more you earn the more you can save
12:49:00 <Tigger_> it's a much better strategy to have no goal in mind when saving
12:49:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would you rather get $24K from the D$P or $35K from working?
12:49:00 <doctor> Depends on the person
12:50:00 <doctor> If you have a lot of habits or hobbies having a goal might help
12:50:00 <Tigger_> $35k working would probably result in a lower overall income actually
12:50:00 <doctor> but if you don't have much interest in things, saving would just be second nature
12:50:00 <Tigger_> as it costs to work
12:50:00 <doctor> that's true
12:50:00 <Warren1984> no I mean $35K on the D$P with a part time job making it say $35K
12:51:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ many rich people are conservative
12:51:00 <Tigger_> most are
12:51:00 <Warren1984> they are stingy with more
12:51:00 <Tigger_> that's how they got to be rich
12:51:00 <Warren1984> money
12:51:00 <Warren1984> yes
12:51:00 <Warren1984> financial prudence
12:51:00 <Warren1984> but you still don't see my point
12:51:00 <Tigger_> I see your point, it's just wrong
12:52:00 <Warren1984> the more you earn the more you can save simple as that
12:52:00 <Tigger_> I see little evidence for this in the wider world
12:52:00 <Warren1984> If you put away 10% of your income like on that clip you showed me on youtube
12:53:00 <Warren1984> say you get $24K from the D$P and put 10% away
12:53:00 <Warren1984> that is $2,400 a year
12:53:00 <Warren1984> now lets say you got the D$P $24K + $10K at a part time job
12:53:00 <Tigger_> this is how it is: the strategies to earn a greater income are completely unrelated to the strategies to save money, they do not go hand in hand
12:54:00 <Warren1984> that makes $34K
12:54:00 <Warren1984> so you put 10% of that away
12:54:00 <Warren1984> $3,400K a year
12:54:00 <Tigger_> what most people on a low income do is say "I'm not earning much anyway, so what's the point of saving? I may as well have fun."
12:55:00 <Warren1984> so the question is would you rather put $2.4K or $3.4K away each year
12:55:00 <Warren1984> financial prudence
12:55:00 <Warren1984> so why are you only putting $2.4K instead of $3.4K a year?
12:56:00 <Tigger_> ok so you're talking about a difference of $1.2k, but what did you spend to get that additional $1.2k? such as car expenses to get to work
12:56:00 <Warren1984> yeah but it depends
12:56:00 <Warren1984> I get paid to travel to and from work
12:56:00 <Tigger_> or useless courses that never lead to a job
12:57:00 <Warren1984> If you teach younger kids to ride clip clop
12:57:00 <Warren1984> what would be the extra cost?
12:57:00 <Warren1984> there is always a loss when working, but it benefits you otherwise people would not work
12:57:00 <Tigger_> there would be an insurance cost in case a kid falls off and breaks their arm
12:58:00 <Warren1984> If it cost more to work then everyone in the world would stop working
12:58:00 <Warren1984> just wouldn't work
12:59:00 <Warren1984> there are plently of jobs other than horse riding
12:59:00 <Tigger_> actually most low to medium income people are just working to service debt, and if they did analyse their situation, they would stop
12:59:00 <Warren1984> because they are not been financially prudent
12:59:00 <Warren1984> they are following like sheep
12:59:00 <Tigger_> yes
13:00:00 <Warren1984> so that has nothing to do with your income
13:00:00 <Warren1984> just your attitude
13:00:00 <Warren1984> most people look at celebrities like Kim Kardashin and want to be like her
13:00:00 <Tigger_> this is why the philosophy of saving has nothing to do with actual income
13:00:00 <Warren1984> so they spend all their money
13:01:00 <Tigger_> yes, they do that
13:01:00 <Warren1984> having a higher income means you have the opinion of a) a more expensive lifestyle or b) to save even more
13:01:00 <Warren1984> opinion = option
13:02:00 <Tigger_> you are basically agreeing with me now
13:02:00 <Warren1984> no it's all about attitude and decision making
13:02:00 <Warren1984> you have a decision between point A or point B
13:03:00 <Warren1984> different people save money for various reasons
13:03:00 <Warren1984> some people might be scared that someone will break in
13:03:00 <Warren1984> so they save up for rollershutters
13:03:00 <Warren1984> or they want a new car
13:03:00 <Warren1984> or they want a higher education
13:04:00 <Warren1984> or they want to retire rich
13:04:00 <Tigger_> here is a fundamental difference between income and saving: often it's not possible to increase your income by very much, due to various circumstances it can be completely out of your control, but how much you save is under your control
13:04:00 <Warren1984> the whole point of saving is to have goals in mind
13:04:00 <Tigger_> no, you should forget about goals
13:05:00 <Tigger_> goals will change over time, what seemed important to you one year, will seem completely unimportant the next
13:05:00 <Warren1984> well most financial planners advise to set goals
13:05:00 <Warren1984> without a clear goal in mind what is the point in saving
13:05:00 <Tigger_> people might feel they need a goal in mind, but it's even better to practice the habits of saving with no goal
13:06:00 <Warren1984> yeah but you need money for survival
13:06:00 <Tigger_> you don't need as much to survive as you think
13:06:00 <Warren1984> so you need clothes, food, shelter, transport and those are goals
13:06:00 <Warren1984> those are the primary focus
13:07:00 <Warren1984> so you would not survive without a job
13:07:00 <Warren1984> many people who have mental illness don't shower every day
13:07:00 <Warren1984> they wear the same clothes everyday
13:08:00 <Warren1984> they don't shave everyday
13:08:00 <Tigger_> they can wait till soap is on special and buy months or years worth of soap in bulk
13:08:00 <Warren1984> because they have not set clear specific goals
13:08:00 <Warren1984> yeah but it's just plain disguisting
13:08:00 <Warren1984> or they don't brush their teeth everyday
13:09:00 <Warren1984> and electric toothbrushes are not cheap
13:09:00 <Tigger_> they should brush their teeth everyday, as it can be more expensive in the long run not to
13:09:00 <Warren1984> internet is another goal
13:09:00 <Warren1984> with clothes you need winter and summer
13:09:00 <Warren1984> and then you need to break it down
13:10:00 <Tigger_> clothes are not very expensive from Target or Big W
13:10:00 <Warren1984> winter 1. 7x long sleeve shirts 2. 7x underpants 3. 7x socks 4. 7x trousers etc
13:11:00 <Warren1984> but they are still financial goals Tigger_
13:11:00 <Warren1984> you need to break down survival goals
13:11:00 <Warren1984> so they are clear and specific
13:11:00 <Warren1984> I haven't done that myself
13:12:00 <Warren1984> which is a worry because if my parents are not around I will need to save for these
13:12:00 <Tigger_> yes
13:15:00 <Tigger_> another very big difference between income and saving: your income is nearly always determined by other people, they must say yes at some point. but with saving that is your decision alone
13:15:00 <Warren1984> not if you work for yourself
13:15:00 <Warren1984> you could own a worm farm factory
13:16:00 <Tigger_> yes, that does give you more control over your income
13:18:00 <Warren1984> I have shown this many times Tigger_ -> http://help4adhd.org/documents/WWK17.pdf
13:18:00 <Warren1984> If you haven't already read it, it would be good to read
13:19:00 <Tigger_> Savings
13:19:00 <Tigger_> The savings habit should begin immediately, even if it
13:19:00 <Tigger_> means starting with a piggy bank and making weekly
13:19:00 <Tigger_> deposits of small amounts, even $.50 or $1.00. No matter
13:19:00 <Tigger_> how high the debt load, a savings habit needs to be
13:19:00 <Tigger_> developed. Start small, and be patient with yourself as
13:19:00 <Tigger_> you learn this new habit. There are different purposes for
13:19:00 <Tigger_> saving money
13:20:00 <Tigger_> Long-term future savings: These include retirement.
13:20:00 <Tigger_> This type of savings is especially difficult for an
13:20:00 <Tigger_> individual with AD/HD to conceptualize because
13:20:00 <Tigger_> there is no need in the here and now to be saving.
13:20:00 <Tigger_> Nevertheless, the day will come when you’ll need this
13:20:00 <Tigger_> money to live on.
13:20:00 <Tigger_> good advice
13:20:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what do you have to pay for with shelter other than a) electricity b) rent c) water d) gas e) maintenance?
13:20:00 <Warren1984> only part of the picture Tigger_
13:21:00 <Warren1984> • clarifying goals and identifying problem areas with money
13:21:00 <Warren1984> • organizing financial papers
13:21:00 <Warren1984> • curbing impulsive spending and the use of credit cards
13:21:00 <Warren1984> • becoming aware of how money is spent
13:21:00 <Warren1984> • developing a spending plan and a system to implement the plan
13:21:00 <Warren1984> • developing a plan to get out of debt and get into the habit of saving
13:21:00 <Warren1984> that is the bigger picture
13:21:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what do you have to pay for with shelter other than a) electricity b) rent c) water d) gas e) maintenance?
13:21:00 <Tigger_> rates
13:22:00 <Warren1984> but if you are renting you don't need to pay that do you?
13:22:00 <Tigger_> no
13:23:00 <Warren1984> and you don't have to pay the maintenance either right?
13:24:00 <Tigger_> no, not usually with rental
13:30:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ these are my financial goals so far
13:30:00 <Warren1984> 1. shelter
13:30:00 <Warren1984> -rent
13:30:00 <Warren1984> -electricity
13:30:00 <Warren1984> -water
13:30:00 <Warren1984> -gas
13:31:00 <Warren1984> 2. clothing
13:31:00 <Warren1984> a) winter
13:31:00 <Warren1984> 7x jackets
13:31:00 <Warren1984> 7x trousers
13:31:00 <Warren1984> 7x socks
13:31:00 <Warren1984> 7x underpants
13:31:00 <anotherirc3r> shelter?
13:32:00 <Warren1984> 2x shoes (going out and walking shoes)
13:32:00 <Warren1984> yes shelter renting a house
13:32:00 <Warren1984> b) summer
13:32:00 <Warren1984> 7x short sleeve shirts
13:32:00 <Warren1984> 7x shorts
13:32:00 <Warren1984> 3. transport
13:33:00 <anotherirc3r> ..never heard of that
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -petrol
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -oil and spark plug changes
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -insurance
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -RAC
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -maintenance
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -drivers licence
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -cleaning
13:33:00 <Warren1984> 4. food
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -breakfast
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -lunch
13:33:00 <Warren1984> -dinner
13:34:00 <Warren1984> 5. disposable income
13:34:00 <Warren1984> -mobile phone
13:34:00 <Warren1984> -internet
13:34:00 <Warren1984> -computers
13:34:00 <Tigger_> did you change to a cheaper mobile phone plan?
13:34:00 <Warren1984> not yet
13:35:00 <Warren1984> and then I can focus on saving without goals in mind
13:35:00 <Tigger_> that's a big saving right there
13:35:00 <Warren1984> so first you need to know what you will spend money on
13:35:00 <Warren1984> and then save without goals in mind
13:36:00 <Tigger_> that is the ideal
13:37:00 <Warren1984> now you need a plan of action to meet those goals
13:37:00 <Warren1984> 1st save money
13:37:00 <Warren1984> 2nd find a job you enjoy
13:40:00 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpSEemvwOn4
13:40:00 <progressive> [ Sandra Bland Dashcam Video Released - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
13:42:00 <Tigger_> In January 2015, Bland began posting videos about many subjects, including police brutality against blacks.[5] In one post she wrote, "In the news that we've seen as of late, you could stand there, surrender to the cops, and still be killed."[8] She has been described as a civil rights activist in Chicago, and a part of the Black Lives Matter campaign.[9][10] Bland had at least ten previous traffic-related encounters with police in Illinoi
13:42:00 <Tigger_> s and Texas, and owed $7,579 in fines.[11]
13:57:00 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3176164/Prisoner-Home-Away-actress-Maggie-Kirkpatrick-74-facing-child-sex-charges-incident-13-year-old-girl.html
13:57:00 <progressive> [ Home and Away actress Maggie Kirkpatrick is 'facing child sex charges' | Daily Mail Online ] - www.dailymail.co.uk
14:23:00 <anotherirc3r> ugh.. not sure about almond milk coffee yet :/
15:18:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ I could use cherry tree to reference all the youtube clips that I have made into SOPs
15:19:00 <Warren1984> for future reference
15:29:00 <Warren1984> I just made scrambled eggs for the 1st time ever
15:29:00 <Warren1984> followed youtube
15:29:00 <anotherirc3r> renting costs too much dammit
15:29:00 <Warren1984> I must be getting more confident
15:29:00 <Warren1984> we can move in together Jen
15:30:00 <anotherirc3r> okay you move down here lol
15:36:00 <Warren1984> I would but then I can't see my Psychiatrist
15:36:00 <Warren1984> it's very rare to find a bulk bill Psychiatrist
15:37:00 <Warren1984> I suppose I could see a government Psychiatrist in Melb
15:37:00 <Warren1984> experience something new
15:38:00 <anotherirc3r> true
16:29:00 <aliasd> skillz
16:34:00 <ajnin> hello
16:47:00 <aliasd> hi
16:48:00 <aliasd> you here for a debate?
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17:30:00 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9a2OWtYxh4 they would be amazed in 2015
17:30:00 <progressive> [ Irving Kaufman - Masculine Women! Feminine Men! (1926) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
17:30:06 <Marttinn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9a2OWtYxh4 they would be amazed in 2015
17:30:07 <progressive> [ Irving Kaufman - Masculine Women! Feminine Men! (1926) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
17:32:00 <TiSK> hi
17:32:23 <TiSK> hi
17:33:00 <Marttinn> hi TiSK
17:33:02 <Marttinn> hi TiSK
17:34:00 <TiSK> hungry its dinner time
17:34:38 <TiSK> hungry its dinner time
17:35:00 <Marttinn> what are you going to cook
17:35:15 <Marttinn> what are you going to cook
17:38:00 <TiSK> beef suasages and vegie
17:38:14 <TiSK> beef suasages and vegie
17:52:00 <Warren1984> hey all
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17:52:49 <Warren1984> hey all
17:53:00 <Warren1984> Midland TAFE has a strong disability support department
17:53:00 <Warren1984> so if I have any struggles I can ask them for help
17:53:00 <Warren1984> also my employment provider offered me help if I run into any problems
17:53:19 <Warren1984> Midland TAFE has a strong disability support department
17:53:33 <Warren1984> so if I have any struggles I can ask them for help
17:53:56 <Warren1984> also my employment provider offered me help if I run into any problems
18:02:00 <Marttinn> what kind of help?
18:02:30 <Marttinn> what kind of help?
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18:13:17 <Marttinn> or what kind of problems
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18:14:07 <anotherirc3r> hey Warren :)
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18:29:11 <Tigger_> <Warren1984> Tigger_ I could use cherry tree to reference all the youtube clips that I have made into SOPs <- good idea, just paste the links in
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18:32:32 <Windows8> hi
18:33:02 <Windows8> tiak ia cool
18:33:08 <Windows8> TiSK oops
18:38:43 <Windows8> hello
18:38:45 <Windows8> anyone
18:39:03 Nick: Windows8 is now known as Fitz
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18:46:13 <Tigger_> I'm recharging my Clip+ before I go to the shop
18:46:42 <Tigger_> I will purchase lots of tomatoes, onions, and lentils, to make soups for the cold weather
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18:48:58 <Fitz> hi
18:48:59 <Tigger_> hi GreekSnake
18:49:00 <Marttin> Morning Greeksnake
18:49:20 <anotherirc3r> heya Marttin
18:49:22 <Fitz> Tigger_ AKA Shorten CFMEU delegate
18:49:24 <Marttin> Have you been in folégandros?
18:49:28 <Marttin> Hi Jen
18:49:49 <anotherirc3r> how are you?
18:50:04 <Marttin> Fine
18:50:08 <GreekSnake> hey sluts
18:50:10 <GreekSnake> no I haven't
18:50:10 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-SZgxCec0I
18:50:11 <progressive> [ Alaska Thunderfuck - Hieeee [Unofficial] - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
18:50:23 <Marttin> Even cars love greek beaches i.blogs.es/08d154/bmw-serie-1-playa-folegandros-1/650_1200.jpg , so lucky
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18:51:33 <Tigger_> I expect this is not suitable for family viewing
18:51:54 <Marttin> And you Jen?
18:52:13 <Marttin> Are you FURIOUS they are releasing Iphone7 short after you bought 6?
18:52:17 <Warren1984> [16:14] <anotherirc3r> hey Warren :) -> hey Jen sorry I was afk
18:52:23 <GreekSnake> I've been to Mykonos, Santorini and Salamis
18:52:35 <anotherirc3r> good thanks Marttin
18:52:44 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, do you have your hair shaved on the sides and 'whooshed' on the top and to the side?
18:53:05 <GreekSnake> and the Peloponnese, which is technically an island after the construction of the Corinth canal
18:53:06 <GreekSnake> yes, Tigger_
18:53:08 <GreekSnake> you like?
18:53:15 <Tigger_> for real?
18:53:22 <Marttin> Lolol
18:53:42 <GreekSnake> well I do have a kind of trendy Mohican look happening at the mo
18:53:52 <Tigger_> is that the name of the style?
18:53:53 <GreekSnake> very Malbourne, actually
18:53:57 <Marttin> As gs has aged, his hair has become.like sheeps hair
18:54:06 <GreekSnake> lol wtf?
18:54:16 <GreekSnake> koureméno gídi
18:55:28 <GreekSnake> I love the part after 3:00
18:56:13 <GreekSnake> the entire track is full of scathing tranny lines, actually
18:56:14 <Tigger_> Hieeeeeeee
18:56:41 <GreekSnake> Alaska is quite fabulous for a modern queen, actually
18:57:07 <Tigger_> he looks a bit AIDsy
18:57:11 <GreekSnake> yes, very
18:58:32 <Warren1984> Is it possible to go up 900grams in 1 day
18:58:36 <Marttin> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKhYci0XAAAwpgQ.jpg:small I wanted you to see what JOURNALISM is
18:58:47 <Warren1984> I think not, my scale may be inaccurate
18:59:45 <Tigger_> so what is the name of this hairstyle all the gays seem to have now, Chris Crocker has it too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chris_Crocker_-_2015.jpg
18:59:46 <progressive> KeyError: u'extract' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/modules/wikipedia.py", line 89, in mw_snippet)
19:04:32 <Warren1984> time for a long walk
19:04:35 <Warren1984> bbl
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19:04:40 <GreekSnake> <@Marttin> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKhYci0XAAAwpgQ.jpg:small I wanted you to see what JOURNALISM is
19:04:41 <GreekSnake> LOL
19:04:57 <Tigger_> what does that say?
19:04:59 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, that was my last hairstyle
19:05:16 <GreekSnake> but I'm going back to mohawk
19:05:21 <Tigger_> so what is the name of that style?
19:05:39 <GreekSnake> hipster queen? lol
19:05:51 <Tigger_> discovering the name of this hairstyle is harder than finding out masonic secrets
19:06:15 <GreekSnake> as if we'd ever let you in on our beauty secrets
19:06:28 <Tigger_> heh
19:06:35 <Tigger_> but I want to know the name of it
19:06:55 <GreekSnake> I don't know, actually
19:07:05 <GreekSnake> I just described it to the hairdresser
19:07:09 <Tigger_> so you had the style yourself but you don't know what it's called?
19:07:39 <GreekSnake> well the hairdresser was my bf's Iraqi barber, so names wouldn't have helped
19:09:00 <GreekSnake> oh btw, Marttin's link says that Breivik is going to do the same course at the University of Oslo as the commie leader of Podemos, the left-wing populist anti-austerity and Spanish equivalent of Syriza
19:09:10 <GreekSnake> *party
19:09:18 <Tigger_> ah
19:10:31 <GreekSnake> so that explains Marttin's dodgy Norwegian links
19:10:54 <doctor> greeksnake
19:11:00 <Tigger_> but it's interesting you're so outside of the loop of gay trends that you don't know the name of that hairstyle
19:11:02 <Marttin> Why dodgy?
19:11:08 <Tigger_> did you get sunburned on the sides?
19:11:18 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, it happens when you're in a relationship for so long
19:11:27 <GreekSnake> it's not as if I go out on the scene any more
19:11:43 <GreekSnake> I shall ask Patsy what it's called, let's see if she knows
19:12:04 <GreekSnake> I'm pretty sure it's just a mohawk variant
19:12:38 <doctor> he suits that haircut
19:12:40 <GreekSnake> Chris Crocker looks surprisingly handsome in that photo btw, pity about the AIDS
19:13:29 <Tigger_> is he HIV+ now?
19:14:28 <doctor> the disconnected undercut
19:14:32 <GreekSnake> LOL
19:14:35 <GreekSnake> even Patsy has no clue
19:14:38 <doctor> according to google
19:14:43 <GreekSnake> her exact words were: "Why is it so fucking important?"
19:14:55 <GreekSnake> I told her I was a gay ambassador to the heterosexual online world
19:16:00 <Tigger_> doctor, that sounds like the name an outsider gives to it
19:16:06 <GreekSnake> doctor would definitely go gay again for Chris Crocker, I think
19:16:39 <GreekSnake> doctor's right, that is what it's called
19:16:41 <doctor> I'm already gay and yes I would
19:16:41 <GreekSnake> I Googled it
19:16:45 <Tigger_> order Patsy to make enquiries
19:17:00 <GreekSnake> I thought you'd turned asexual about 3.5 years ago
19:17:24 <doctor> Well, I kinda regressed a bit but I wouldn't say asexual
19:17:33 <GreekSnake> Tigger_, you should get a disconnected undercut
19:17:39 <Tigger_> never
19:18:04 <Tigger_> then I'd be getting all the wrong attention
19:18:20 <GreekSnake> what's wrong with that?
19:18:24 <GreekSnake> at least you'd have things in common, lol
19:18:43 <doctor> You can learn to appreciate the attention from both men and women, doesn't mean you'll have sex with them
19:18:45 <GreekSnake> you're far more compatible with gay men than with other straight men
19:19:06 <Tigger_> no they'd get the wrong idea, and I'd be very uncomfortable
19:19:26 <GreekSnake> why would you be uncomfortable?
19:19:31 <GreekSnake> all you'd need to do is decline politely
19:19:57 <Tigger_> they wouldn't say outright what they want, they'd be giving signals that I'd never pick up on
19:20:03 <GreekSnake> http://www.mens-hairstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Mohawk-Hairstyle-Men.jpg
19:20:08 <GreekSnake> something like this would look fabulous on you
19:20:19 <Tigger_> very flaming
19:20:42 <Tigger_> it must be a bit of work shaving the sides all the time?
19:21:17 <GreekSnake> well that's what hair stylists are for
19:22:32 <GreekSnake> http://www.mens-hairstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Mens-Haircuts-Styles.jpg
19:22:36 <GreekSnake> they chose a Greek actor for this one
19:22:38 <Tigger_> so you have to go back each week for a top up?
19:23:08 <GreekSnake> yes
19:23:09 <GreekSnake> http://www.mens-hairstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Long-Top-Hair-Styles-for-Men.jpg
19:23:13 <GreekSnake> Tigger_'s new look
19:23:23 <Tigger_> lol, terrible
19:23:42 <anotherirc3r> finally.. a picture of Tigger! :P
19:23:47 <Tigger_> real men like Gilfoyle aren't always primping and preening
19:25:07 <GreekSnake> they're just naturally handsome?
19:26:10 <Tigger_> they're too busy inventing new things and taking over the world to be bothered with disconnected undercut maintenance
19:26:43 <Tigger_> they leave the glamour to their trophy wives
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19:33:38 <Tigger_> http://www.menshairstyletrends.com/modern-mens-hairstyles-2015-the-pomp/
19:33:38 <progressive> [ Modern Men's Hairstyles: The Pomp ] - www.menshairstyletrends.com
19:36:11 <GreekSnake> https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t35.0-12/11783754_10207660185370932_1610543087_o.jpg?oh=91aba1af42e56b847aef2b4f448dd3cd&oe=55B9F090
19:36:53 <Tigger_> I want to see this war dance
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19:38:25 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBljMnLw9-4
19:38:25 <progressive> [ Adam Goodes War Cry Celebration - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
19:39:20 <Marttin> Whats that leftist.film?
19:39:24 <Tigger_> Australia has refused to embrace its indigenous culture and that is why you see acts like this. Look at NZ, they have at least come together and accepted each other to a point. Can you imagine white footballers doing Aboriginal dance ceremonies before a rubgy game or AFL game?????? Everyone loves the Haka bc it shows unity which in turn is strength. That is what Australia needs a lot more of....UNITY!!!!! Otherwise we just become a shit co
19:39:24 <Tigger_> untry!!!!!!
19:39:47 <Tigger_> actually that's one thing I'm very pleased about, that Australia has not gone native like NZ has
19:42:06 <Tigger_> I didn't even know it was meant to be an abo dance
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19:43:06 <Marttin> I wonder if abos were fit before british arrived australia
19:43:26 <Marttin> I always saw them without shirt and fat
19:43:53 <Marttin> This guy doesnt even look abo, is he mixed?
19:43:57 <Tigger_> they don't adapt very well to a western diet
19:44:05 <Tigger_> I think he might be part afgan or something
19:44:10 <Tigger_> Afghan
19:44:48 <Tigger_> Goodes' father is of English, Irish and Scottish ancestry; his mother is an Indigenous Australian (Adnyamathanha and Narungga).[5][6]
19:45:18 <GreekSnake> it all looks very ape-like
19:45:54 <GreekSnake> his mother is Scottish lol
19:46:00 <Tigger_> the father is
19:46:11 <GreekSnake> oh
19:46:33 <Tigger_> but typical halfbreed, 50% abo, 200% oppressed
19:46:34 <GreekSnake> why on earth would a white man choose an abo woman?
19:46:55 <Tigger_> it's a mystery
19:47:10 <Tigger_> probably marrying her for the grog money, the term is "gin jockey"
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19:47:17 <Marttin> Lol
19:47:37 <GreekSnake> LOL
19:47:45 <GreekSnake> that upper class, hey?
19:49:05 <Tigger_> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gin+jockey
19:49:05 <progressive> [ Urban Dictionary: gin+jockey ] - www.urbandictionary.com
19:50:36 <Tigger_> there are mutual benefits, the white guy gets access to her higher welfare payments, while she gets a bloke who doesn't beat her (as much) as an abo husband would
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19:54:37 <ajnin> hello
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19:55:10 <Tigger_> hi ajnin
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19:58:39 <Tigger_> well time to go to the shops, bbl
20:08:19 <exem> Lol that woman from prisoner
20:08:32 <ajnin> queen B ?
20:08:46 <ajnin> or dorinee
20:18:20 <Marttin> I wonder if prom is aware of the news
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20:24:17 <GreekSnake> hey Neil, who's that sick cunt rooting that old smelly gin. fuck me, that looks like Steven the gin jockey.
20:24:46 <xm> i made my first outbound phone sales call today
20:25:00 <xm> and my first call ever was successful. i rock
20:25:09 <xm> it's not even my area
20:25:41 <xm> Greece should get me to negotiate with the banks
20:25:57 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0U9Wkzo3Q
20:25:57 <progressive> [ What Men I Attract - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
20:26:31 <xm> as a gay man how do you feel about trannies?
20:26:39 <xm> not the politics behind it, just the aesthetics
20:26:43 <xm> does it make you want to vomit?
20:26:59 <GreekSnake> no, lol
20:27:01 <GreekSnake> it makes me laugh
20:27:04 <GreekSnake> I find trannies hilarious
20:27:08 <xm> and what about drag queens?
20:27:14 <GreekSnake> oh, they're the same to me
20:27:16 <xm> drag queens are scary, mostly because they go over the top
20:27:40 <GreekSnake> like Alaska Thunderfuck?
20:27:43 <xm> who?
20:27:58 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-SZgxCec0I
20:27:59 <progressive> [ Alaska Thunderfuck - Hieeee [Unofficial] - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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20:30:19 <doctor> you frightened him away
20:31:24 <doctor> away from the camera i wonder if they are as flamboyant
20:34:52 <GreekSnake> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR_CYgX-sZ0
20:34:52 <progressive> [ Girl please - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
20:36:24 <doctor> pearly white skin
20:36:35 <doctor> what shes talking about - don't know don't care
20:36:55 <GreekSnake> who cares? lol
20:37:19 <doctor> haha, exactly
20:39:58 <erlich> Buy the full length album "ANUS" on iTunes:
20:40:00 <erlich> lol
20:40:53 <erlich> how come gays love to do exaggerated facial movements>
20:41:14 <erlich> i cant imagine you being like this
20:42:27 <GreekSnake> oh, I'm nothing like this lol
20:42:30 <GreekSnake> I just find them amusing
20:42:59 <doctor> It's all for show
20:43:09 <erlich> so just to attract attention?
20:43:17 <doctor> I'd say so
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21:04:43 <Tigger_> ever notice the way that when a coven of women get together and then act out overly dramatically as they tell their inane stories about a frenemy that was exposed having an imitation Louis Vitton handbag?
21:05:01 <Tigger_> well that's what drag queens are playing off
21:05:40 <doctor> Maybe in movies, the females I know don't act like dragqueens
21:06:00 <doctor> dragqueens act more like stereotypical american black females
21:06:04 <Tigger_> you need to catch them at the right time and place, such as a cafe when they're doing brunch
21:06:46 <doctor> I'd feel awkward eavesdropping
21:07:11 <Tigger_> you don't have to eavesdrop, you'll hear it from up the road
21:07:36 <doctor> lol
21:08:52 <doctor> if that's the case i'd avoid the cafe all together. not willing to conduct a social experiment of my own if I have to hear the harping or cackling crones
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21:09:11 <Tigger_> After years of plugging Google+ into all of its services, today Google announced that your Google+ profile will no longer be your identity in all its products. The company says it will take a few months for all the changes to happen, but the first product to be uncoupled will be YouTube. Bradley Horowitz, Google's vice president of streams, photos, and sharing, says the changes are a response to user feedback: "We've also heard that it doe
21:09:11 <Tigger_> sn't make sense for your Google+ profile to be your identity in all the other Google products you use."
21:09:36 <Tigger_> the prelude to axing Google+ itself, uncoupling everything from it
21:09:46 <Warren1984> hi all
21:09:54 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
21:09:56 <doctor> yeah, never linked my youtube account with it and now it's gone
21:10:08 <doctor> wasn't willing to share my details
21:10:08 <ajnin> same
21:10:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_ doctor Jen
21:10:24 <Marttin> Ive spent aall those years without making comments in youtube because of this
21:10:24 <Warren1984> Marttin
21:10:25 <doctor> hey Warren1984
21:10:31 <Marttin> Hi warren
21:10:46 <Tigger_> you can maintain two separate identities, but for awhile google pestered me every week or so to merge them with my gmail
21:10:57 <ajnin> anyways
21:11:00 <ajnin> good night
21:11:02 <doctor> I used to troll the comments quite a bit, I don't think I'd share the same enthusiasm today
21:11:03 <doctor> night
21:11:06 <Tigger_> night ajnin
21:11:10 <ajnin> pulling up stumps early
21:11:26 <ajnin> need to start getting used to getting up fucking early again
21:11:28 <ajnin> :(
21:11:30 <ajnin> fck wokr
21:12:11 <doctor> stump pulling, sounds unpleasent
21:14:06 <doctor> sad http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/wa-family-finds-pet-cat-decapitated-on-front-lawn/story-fnhocxo3-1227460111980?sv=8574ad5fb77518225e819d53bdd82dea
21:14:07 <progressive> [ No Cookies | Perth Now ] - www.perthnow.com.au
21:14:15 <Tigger_> I won't click
21:14:40 <doctor> Nothing gross, just a sad story
21:15:19 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you are right saving money and earning money are 2 seperate things
21:15:32 <Warren1984> but you need both to become richer more quickly
21:15:46 <xm> did you hear about that woman from Prisoner that got done for sex offences?
21:16:00 <Warren1984> nope
21:16:01 <Tigger_> yes, she really was the Freak
21:16:13 <Tigger_> I posted the dailymail link earlier
21:16:25 <Marttin> And heraldsun and....
21:16:25 <Tigger_> she is accused of molesting a girl during the 1980s
21:16:39 <Tigger_> perhaps getting into character for Prisoner
21:16:47 <Marttin> None of them was redeable.from my opera mini xD
21:16:59 <Tigger_> get a real computer Marttin
21:17:05 <Marttin> XD
21:17:11 <Marttin> Or a real tablet rather
21:18:25 <Tigger_> no, a proper desktop computer, like a man
21:18:48 <Marttin> I have it, but I dont like to be at it all the time
21:20:14 <Tigger_> why not?
21:21:55 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3176164/Prisoner-Home-Away-actress-Maggie-Kirkpatrick-74-facing-child-sex-charges-incident-13-year-old-girl.html
21:21:56 <progressive> [ Home and Away actress Maggie Kirkpatrick is 'facing child sex charges' | Daily Mail Online ] - www.dailymail.co.uk
21:22:07 <Marttin> Warren sometimes you seem much more aware than most people about how capitalism isnt smart but then you have other days when you try to figure out how to become rich
21:22:12 <Tigger_> GreekSnake's friend Varnava will be shocked
21:22:41 <Marttin> Its more confortable to be lying down when reading
21:30:47 <Tigger_> http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/27/google-gives-up-on-google-as-a-facebook-rival/
21:30:48 <progressive> [ Google Gives Up on Google+ as a Facebook Rival - Digits - WSJ ] - blogs.wsj.com
21:31:21 <Tigger_> of course we all knew it was coming
21:34:52 <Marttin> This could be a good book warren1984, https://mafhom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/23-things-they-dont-tell-you-about-capitalism.pdf&sa=U&ved=0CBEQFjADahUKEwjv0dPi2_3GAhVCPBQKHYZ7BH4&sig2=KmM8snp2_48UXtiLg8N7vw&usg=AFQjCNE3xRk3b_WD2jQwt2xpUQDMFEygKA
21:35:14 <Marttin> And the gook writter isnt even leftist
21:35:33 <Tigger_> Ha-Joon Chang is a leftist, and a bad economist
21:36:44 <Marttin> He sounds quite centrist
21:37:52 <Tigger_> Chang's contribution to heterodox economics started while studying under Robert Rowthorn, a leading British Marxist economist,[14] with whom he worked
21:37:57 <Bodhi> WHERE IS TEXTY?!
21:39:12 <Bodhi> BRING ME TEXTY AND THE WOOKIE
21:39:57 <Tigger_> Chang only looks at countries that developed during the nineteenth century and a small number of the policies they pursued. He did not examine countries that failed to develop in the nineteenth century and see if they pursued the same heterodox policies only more intensively. This is a poor scientific and historical method. Suppose a doctor studied people with long lives and found that some smoked tobacco, but did not study people with sho
21:39:57 <Tigger_> rter lives to see if smoking was even more prevalent. Any conclusions drawn only from the observed relationship would be quite misleading.[18]
21:40:03 <Marttin> on the elaboration of the theory of
21:40:03 <Marttin> industrial policy , which he described as a middle way between central planning and unrestrained free market.
21:40:59 <Warren1984> looks interesting Marttin
21:41:03 <Warren1984> it's a lot to read
21:41:13 <Marttin> Yep
21:44:36 <Tigger_> he makes inaccurate claims about British trade protectionism, which he claims was used to nurture industrialisation, when in reality legislation like the Corn Laws were used to protect the declining agricultural sector, not the growing industrial sector
22:04:57 <Warren1984> isn't windows 10 coming out at midnight?
22:05:52 <xm> already?
22:06:00 <Warren1984> 29th right
22:06:01 <Tigger_> might be 29th American time
22:06:03 <xm> you gonna camp outside a comp store Warren1984
22:06:15 <xm> windows 10 might make outlook run faster
22:07:13 <xm> you know how the kiwis do the haka? i think the australians should do a aether invaders dance
22:07:20 <xm> rows of them
22:07:26 <xm> an*
22:08:25 <Tigger_> I didn't know what he was doing, I'd never seen it before
22:09:03 <xm> ive never seen an abo war dance before
22:09:08 <xm> especially because they are 'peaceful'
22:09:21 <xm> i dont think anyone has connected that yet
22:09:32 <xm> 'peaceful aborigines' and 'war dance'
22:10:44 <xm> http://www.cbsnews.com/media/six-of-the-most-haunted-houses-in-the-us/5/
22:10:45 <progressive> [ Six of the most haunted houses in the U.S. - Page 5 - CBS News ] - www.cbsnews.com
22:10:53 <Tigger_> abo tribes didn't go to war much, they may never have developed a war dance
22:11:18 <xm> a recent invention? like dot painting etc?
22:11:47 <Tigger_> probably
22:13:12 <Tigger_> there wasn't much to fight over in Australia, no one location could sustain a tribe for very long before they had to move to another
22:13:37 <xm> so probably more to do with personal issues then
22:13:40 <xm> like grievances
22:13:48 <xm> or fighting from within a tribe and splitting off
22:13:52 <Tigger_> this is in contrast to PNG where they were very settled, and wars were constant
22:15:29 <xm> http://i.imgur.com/PLxobKz.jpg
22:17:36 <Tigger_> http://www.news.com.au/world/grenade-attack-in-papua-new-guinea-kills-as-many-as-34-people-as-tribal-war-rages/story-fndir2ev-1226758575308
22:17:37 <progressive> [ Grenade attack in Papua New Guinea kills as many as 34 people as tribal war rages ] - www.news.com.au
22:26:33 Quit: Warren1984 ([email protected]) Quit:
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22:35:06 <Tigger_> The distinctive high stilt architecture of the Korowai houses, well above flood-water levels, is a form of defensive fortification – to disrupt rival clans from capturing people (especially women and children) for slavery or cannibalism. The height and girth of the common ironwood stilts also serves to protect the house from arson attacks in which huts are set alight and the inhabitants smoked out.
22:35:16 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Korowai_Treehouse_3.jpg
22:35:17 <progressive> KeyError: u'extract' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/modules/wikipedia.py", line 89, in mw_snippet)
22:36:49 <Tigger_> http://api.ning.com/files/DtcI2O2Ry7D6pjFfwT0Bpk1g9CzwPPOu-ha-15rbkU4Z3*J96KIX1EzDV3NOSYusESfb1dkDrRU1buuzQ*lWuvOS6X5xEjUT/1082109920.jpeg
22:37:36 <Tigger_> http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/korowai-tribe-treehouses
22:37:37 <progressive> [ The Korowai Tribe's Incredible Tree Houses - My Modern Met ] - www.mymodernmet.com
22:38:37 <Tigger_> it's interesting how there appears to be an IQ and violence curve that peaks between 80 and 90
22:38:49 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANKaS_86xU
22:38:50 <progressive> [ Sweet Charity: If they could see me now full version - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
22:38:54 <xm> is that too campy for you? that movie scene
22:39:04 <xm> or you dont mind those sort of classics
22:40:10 <xm> there is a nice old charm to it
22:41:41 <Tigger_> gay as a beetroot
22:42:01 <Tigger_> it's a lot more flaming than 40s and 50s musicals
22:42:17 <xm> i was just looking up that song because it's sung in "Student Exchange", a 1987 Disney movie
22:42:25 <xm> where 2 kids pretend to be foreign students
22:43:25 <xm> there were quite a few live action Disney movies in the 80s. they were pretty good, but maybe it;s because i was young and that's how i remembered it
22:45:55 <Tigger_> though this is pedal to the metal gay, nobody involved in the production seems to have been gay
22:47:02 <Tigger_> it must've been an internal trend towards more camp that musicals were taking, driven by their own momentum, rather than a Homintern conspiracy to fag things up
22:47:55 <xm> Homintern conspiracy?
22:48:26 <Tigger_> the secret clique of gays that are plotting to make culture more gay
22:49:25 <xm> and who is speculated to be in it? or is it that secretive
22:49:42 <Tigger_> GreekSnake, Patsy, Varnava
22:49:54 <xm> lol
22:50:05 <anotherirc3r> Brett?
22:50:19 <Tigger_> yes, he's in on it too
22:50:45 <xm> i was thinking if there were one, it would have surely had that former Disney guy
22:50:58 <xm> have*
22:52:39 <GreekSnake> Varnava messaged me today, he wants to catch up
22:53:42 <Tigger_> does he have a disconnected undercut yet?
22:56:57 <Bodhi> BRING BACK PROMETHEUS
22:58:10 <Marttin> Btw is ethanol dead?
22:58:14 <Tigger_> no
22:58:27 <Marttin> Still on businesss?
22:58:40 <Tigger_> no I'm sure he's back home by now
22:59:03 <Marttin> I thought thats what he told you the hours he appeard
22:59:34 <Marttin> But me something big to keep him away that long
22:59:54 <Tigger_> he came on for a bit on Saturday morning
23:01:21 <Marttin> If thats the moment I saw him Id hhave sworn it was previously
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23:07:54 <xm> `info
23:08:03 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> lol
23:08:48 <anotherirc3r> heya Brett
23:08:54 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> morning anotherirc3r
23:08:59 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2958291/The-tree-dwellers-New-Guinea-Amazing-images-offer-glimpse-secretive-Korowai-tribe-living-rickety-treehouses-140ft-remote-rainforest.html
23:09:00 <progressive> [ Meet the Korowai tribe of New Guinea | Daily Mail Online ] - www.dailymail.co.uk
23:09:04 <Tigger_> morning Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu
23:10:57 <xm> i wonder how long those houses last for
23:10:59 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> why do they build them in the air?
23:11:31 <Tigger_> protection from clan wars
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23:52:05 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> anotherirc3r has been sleeping around with kodak
23:52:10 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> and there is footage
23:52:13 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> loloollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
23:53:12 <anotherirc3r> excuse me?
23:54:08 <Mx_Brettingham_Netanyahu> i've seen the video
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