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00:00:00 <erlich> CRazY JeWs -- 4 ur discount usury needs
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08:52:00 <Warren1984> hi all
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08:52:58 <Warren1984> hi all
09:11:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRxjdwJoObo
09:11:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Air Crash Investigation "Where Is Malaysian 370"? S14E11 Exclusive footage! FULL EPISODE
09:11:48 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRxjdwJoObo
09:11:49 <progressive> Youtube Air Crash Investigation "Where Is Malaysian 370"? S14E11 Exclusive footage! FULL EPISODE
09:29:00 <Warren1984> that is interesting because when pilots leave the cockpit, they are exposed to danger
09:29:39 <Warren1984> that is interesting because when pilots leave the cockpit, they are exposed to danger
09:41:00 <mrwuf> considering the advanced state of auto-pilot and the current obsession with drone technology I would not be at all surprised if there is already a mechanism where remote pilots can take control of an aircraft, disabling cockpit controls, under the guise of preventing terrorism related crimes
09:41:57 <mrwuf> considering the advanced state of auto-pilot and the current obsession with drone technology I would not be at all surprised if there is already a mechanism where remote pilots can take control of an aircraft, disabling cockpit controls, under the guise of preventing terrorism related crimes
09:42:00 <Warren1984> or the pilots broke the rules and let girls into the cockpit
09:42:00 <Warren1984> 1 of which is a terrorist
09:42:44 <Warren1984> or the pilots broke the rules and let girls into the cockpit
09:42:50 <Warren1984> 1 of which is a terrorist
09:43:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf that would only work if the plane can be controlled with remote control
09:43:00 <mrwuf> well you see I'm always sceptical when something like this happens.. air crash investigations take a long time, when major media comes up with an explanation almost instantly I become suspicious
09:43:00 <Warren1984> its like you could break into a computer via wifi
09:43:27 <Warren1984> mrwuf that would only work if the plane can be controlled with remote control
09:43:41 <mrwuf> well you see I'm always sceptical when something like this happens.. air crash investigations take a long time, when major media comes up with an explanation almost instantly I become suspicious
09:43:45 <Warren1984> its like you could break into a computer via wifi
09:44:00 <Warren1984> I think it was hi-jacked
09:44:00 <Warren1984> and landed in Pakistan
09:44:00 <Warren1984> and is been turned into a nuclear weapon for later use
09:44:00 <mrwuf> typically there is a long term between a accident and a explanation, allowing proper investigations to begin and make conclusions, when events occur and are explained immediately that does not fit the typical pattern expected its more akin to perception management
09:44:04 <Warren1984> I think it was hi-jacked
09:44:14 <Warren1984> and landed in Pakistan
09:44:33 <Warren1984> and is been turned into a nuclear weapon for later use
09:44:55 <mrwuf> typically there is a long term between a accident and a explanation, allowing proper investigations to begin and make conclusions, when events occur and are explained immediately that does not fit the typical pattern expected its more akin to perception management
09:45:00 <Warren1984> yeah
09:45:21 <Warren1984> yeah
09:47:00 <Warren1984> now they know it made 3 turns
09:47:00 <Warren1984> not just 1
09:47:50 <Warren1984> now they know it made 3 turns
09:47:53 <Warren1984> not just 1
09:48:00 <Warren1984> I didn't know that
09:48:00 <mrwuf> I don't bother with conspiracy theories either.. what to look for is motive, who has the most to gain
09:48:17 <Warren1984> I didn't know that
09:48:19 <mrwuf> I don't bother with conspiracy theories either.. what to look for is motive, who has the most to gain
09:49:00 <mrwuf> never assume malice when incompetence is a fitting explanation
09:49:03 <mrwuf> never assume malice when incompetence is a fitting explanation
09:51:00 <mrwuf> well considering there are all sorts of technologies used to jam navigation built into warships it might just be that the plane flew too close to a submarine or warship and there was some kind of interference, sort of like how whales always get beached and no one seems to know explain why most probably in that scenario submarines are using sonar along with whales to navigate and its probably like staring into the sun for them, they seek t
09:51:00 <mrwuf> o escape the stimulus by beaching themselves, either way I don't know
09:51:29 <mrwuf> well considering there are all sorts of technologies used to jam navigation built into warships it might just be that the plane flew too close to a submarine or warship and there was some kind of interference, sort of like how whales always get beached and no one seems to know explain why most probably in that scenario submarines are using sonar along with whales to navigate and its probably like staring into the sun for them, they seek t
09:51:29 <mrwuf> o escape the stimulus by beaching themselves, either way I don't know
09:52:00 <mrwuf> perhaps drone technology has reached a level where commercial pilots can be easily replaced and theres a few trillion dollars worth of potential business there and making commercial airlines crash will help sell this change
09:52:42 <mrwuf> perhaps drone technology has reached a level where commercial pilots can be easily replaced and theres a few trillion dollars worth of potential business there and making commercial airlines crash will help sell this change
09:54:00 <mrwuf> I imagine if your a warship planes being able to counter attack planes income with bombs by jamming their navigation systems would probably be a technology that has been researched and developed and probably not mainstream knowledge
09:54:00 <mrwuf> sorry thats all garbage IM eating
09:54:07 <mrwuf> I imagine if your a warship planes being able to counter attack planes income with bombs by jamming their navigation systems would probably be a technology that has been researched and developed and probably not mainstream knowledge
09:54:24 <mrwuf> sorry thats all garbage IM eating
09:55:00 <mrwuf> my opinion is accidents happen and I doubt these planes were crashed intentionally because there appears to be no clear motive
09:55:09 <mrwuf> my opinion is accidents happen and I doubt these planes were crashed intentionally because there appears to be no clear motive
10:00:00 <Warren1984> [07:48] <mrwuf> I don't bother with conspiracy theories either.. what to look for is motive, who has the most to gain <- yeah neither do I
10:01:00 <Warren1984> [07:48] <mrwuf> I don't bother with conspiracy theories either.. what to look for is motive, who has the most to gain <- yeah neither do I
10:01:00 <Warren1984> I just consider the possibilities
10:01:00 <Warren1984> but not conspiracys
10:01:00 <mrwuf> so the fact theres no clear motive suggests the plane crash is accidental in nature - probably the result of anti-aircraft technology mis-targeting commercial airlines and disabling there navigation systems, that would be my guess
10:01:30 <Warren1984> I just consider the possibilities
10:01:46 <Warren1984> but not conspiracys
10:01:50 <mrwuf> so the fact theres no clear motive suggests the plane crash is accidental in nature - probably the result of anti-aircraft technology mis-targeting commercial airlines and disabling there navigation systems, that would be my guess
10:02:00 <Warren1984> the germanwings pilot did it on purpose
10:02:09 <Warren1984> the germanwings pilot did it on purpose
10:04:00 <mrwuf> well again the media came out with that explanation extremely quickly before any actual crash investigation, before recovery of the black box broadcast around the world was news that the pilot had mental illness and was taking medication, to be honest thats not really uncommon, from what I read and remember the planes autopilot was set to a very low altitude, that to me is not how a disturbed pilot would crash a plane
10:04:36 <mrwuf> well again the media came out with that explanation extremely quickly before any actual crash investigation, before recovery of the black box broadcast around the world was news that the pilot had mental illness and was taking medication, to be honest thats not really uncommon, from what I read and remember the planes autopilot was set to a very low altitude, that to me is not how a disturbed pilot would crash a plane
10:05:00 <Tigger_> morning Warren1984, mrwuf
10:05:19 <Tigger_> morning Warren1984, mrwuf
10:06:00 <mrwuf> I don't know the guy so I can judge his character what I did notice was the speed between crash and explanation which to me seemed artificially contrived rather than natural progression
10:06:31 <mrwuf> I don't know the guy so I can judge his character what I did notice was the speed between crash and explanation which to me seemed artificially contrived rather than natural progression
10:08:00 <Warren1984> morning Tigger_
10:08:54 <Warren1984> morning Tigger_
10:13:00 <mrwuf> good morning
10:13:00 <Tigger_> so what are your plans today warren?
10:13:15 <mrwuf> good morning
10:13:22 <Tigger_> so what are your plans today warren?
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10:42:00 <Warren1984> not much and you Tigger_?
10:42:00 <Tigger_> I'm just uploading my game, you'll be able to play it in a few minutes
10:42:32 <Warren1984> not much and you Tigger_?
10:42:52 <Tigger_> I'm just uploading my game, you'll be able to play it in a few minutes
10:49:00 <Tigger_> `topic No-install Windows executable of Aether Invaders engine test (ignore any virus scanner false alarms): https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5vf0wx664m2pyd/Aether%20Invaders-1.0.0.7.exe?dl=0
10:49:06 <Tigger_> `topic No-install Windows executable of Aether Invaders engine test (ignore any virus scanner false alarms): https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5vf0wx664m2pyd/Aether%20Invaders-1.0.0.7.exe?dl=0
10:56:00 <mrwuf> lol
10:56:18 <mrwuf> lol
10:57:00 <mrwuf> heres a .exe, a wonderful fun game, ignore your anti-virus warning, its a program I made for you all
10:57:00 <mrwuf> r u srs bro
10:57:00 <mrwuf> maybe if you release the source code
10:57:08 <mrwuf> heres a .exe, a wonderful fun game, ignore your anti-virus warning, its a program I made for you all
10:57:20 <mrwuf> r u srs bro
10:57:42 <mrwuf> maybe if you release the source code
10:58:00 <mrwuf> brb I just got a phone call, apparently my computer has a problem and I have to enable remote desktop
10:58:31 <mrwuf> brb I just got a phone call, apparently my computer has a problem and I have to enable remote desktop
10:59:00 <mrwuf> its probably worth the risk, I can always just buy another computer, Im going to be super rich as soon as this nigerian prince comes thru
11:00:02 <mrwuf> its probably worth the risk, I can always just buy another computer, Im going to be super rich as soon as this nigerian prince comes thru
11:01:00 <Tigger_> mrwuf, don't be dumb
11:01:00 <Tigger_> virus scanners use whitelists, so anything that isn't a recognised .exe registers a false positive
11:01:00 <Tigger_> not all virus scanners, but there are a few that do this
11:01:29 <Tigger_> mrwuf, don't be dumb
11:01:55 <Tigger_> virus scanners use whitelists, so anything that isn't a recognised .exe registers a false positive
11:02:00 <Tigger_> and no I'm not releasing the source code
11:02:00 <Warren1984> mrwuf what are your plans and priorities today?
11:02:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, download and play my game
11:02:03 <Tigger_> not all virus scanners, but there are a few that do this
11:02:16 <Tigger_> and no I'm not releasing the source code
11:02:44 <Warren1984> mrwuf what are your plans and priorities today?
11:02:56 <Tigger_> Warren1984, download and play my game
11:06:00 <Warren1984> In a moment
11:06:18 <Warren1984> In a moment
11:11:00 <xm> ill run it during my break
11:11:00 <xm> im sick but im still going to work
11:11:00 <xm> hopefully wont need to go to the loo on the bus
11:11:16 <xm> ill run it during my break
11:11:25 <xm> im sick but im still going to work
11:11:39 <xm> hopefully wont need to go to the loo on the bus
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11:19:00 <Warren1984> I always fear that
11:19:00 <Tigger_> just don't go on the bus then
11:19:16 <Warren1984> I always fear that
11:19:46 <Tigger_> just don't go on the bus then
11:23:00 <Warren1984> when doing the flyers
11:23:52 <Warren1984> when doing the flyers
11:24:00 <Warren1984> what if you need to go to the toilet, as you have the runs
11:24:00 <Tigger_> just stop taking those drugs that mess up your system
11:24:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if I go to a centre where there are other people like myself, how long do you think it would take to learn cooking?
11:24:09 <Warren1984> what if you need to go to the toilet, as you have the runs
11:24:32 <Tigger_> just stop taking those drugs that mess up your system
11:24:49 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if I go to a centre where there are other people like myself, how long do you think it would take to learn cooking?
11:25:00 <Tigger_> just learn cooking from watching youtube videos
11:25:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you don't have arthritis and cannot feel the pain
11:25:00 <Warren1984> its better to learn in a team
11:25:00 <Warren1984> and much cheaper
11:25:00 <Tigger_> with youtube there is no pressure, no judgement, you can go at your own pace, pause and rewatch parts, etc.
11:25:00 <Warren1984> as its free
11:25:00 <Tigger_> youtube is free
11:25:00 <Warren1984> yeah but then you make mistakes
11:25:00 <Warren1984> that cost heaps
11:25:05 <Tigger_> just learn cooking from watching youtube videos
11:25:13 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you don't have arthritis and cannot feel the pain
11:25:32 <Warren1984> its better to learn in a team
11:25:40 <Warren1984> and much cheaper
11:25:41 <Tigger_> with youtube there is no pressure, no judgement, you can go at your own pace, pause and rewatch parts, etc.
11:25:42 <Warren1984> as its free
11:25:47 <Tigger_> youtube is free
11:25:54 <Warren1984> yeah but then you make mistakes
11:25:57 <Warren1984> that cost heaps
11:26:00 <Tigger_> if you don't make mistakes then you don't learn
11:26:00 <Warren1984> but the mistakes cost lots of money
11:26:00 <Warren1984> I wasted a lot of money making cupcakes from scratch
11:26:08 <Tigger_> if you don't make mistakes then you don't learn
11:26:24 <Warren1984> but the mistakes cost lots of money
11:26:58 <Warren1984> I wasted a lot of money making cupcakes from scratch
11:27:00 <Tigger_> it's only food ingredients, it's not like wasting money on Skype cameras
11:27:00 <Tigger_> before doing anything, just watch several youtube videos until you are confident
11:27:09 <Tigger_> it's only food ingredients, it's not like wasting money on Skype cameras
11:27:32 <Tigger_> before doing anything, just watch several youtube videos until you are confident
11:28:00 <Warren1984> why not go to a centre where you can learn for free in a team
11:28:00 <Tigger_> it costs money to go there
11:28:00 <Tigger_> there might be bullies
11:28:06 <Warren1984> why not go to a centre where you can learn for free in a team
11:28:19 <Tigger_> it costs money to go there
11:28:28 <Tigger_> there might be bullies
11:29:00 <Warren1984> bullying is not tolerated
11:29:00 <Tigger_> there might be sarcasm
11:29:00 <Tigger_> Mark Campbell might be there
11:29:00 <Warren1984> no
11:29:00 <Warren1984> Mark Campbell is not allowed there
11:29:05 <Warren1984> bullying is not tolerated
11:29:14 <Tigger_> there might be sarcasm
11:29:22 <Tigger_> Mark Campbell might be there
11:29:22 <Warren1984> no
11:29:35 <Warren1984> Mark Campbell is not allowed there
11:30:00 <Tigger_> I learned to make icecream from watching youtube videos
11:30:00 <Tigger_> I'd never done it before in my life
11:30:38 <Tigger_> I learned to make icecream from watching youtube videos
11:30:45 <Tigger_> I'd never done it before in my life
11:31:00 <mrwuf> its always good to step outside your comfort zone and make new friends or learn new skills, so go for it bro
11:32:03 <mrwuf> its always good to step outside your comfort zone and make new friends or learn new skills, so go for it bro
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11:35:00 <mrwuf> I believe with your methodical approach to study and assiduousness you may become a Iron Chef and I look forward to watching you battle chef Yutaka Ishinabe
11:35:47 <mrwuf> I believe with your methodical approach to study and assiduousness you may become a Iron Chef and I look forward to watching you battle chef Yutaka Ishinabe
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11:42:00 <Warren1984> clip clop -> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1609797985902275&set=pcb.1609798199235587&type=1
11:42:00 <Warren1984> ahh Tigger_ doesn't have facebook
11:42:12 <Warren1984> clip clop -> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1609797985902275&set=pcb.1609798199235587&type=1
11:42:30 <Warren1984> ahh Tigger_ doesn't have facebook
11:43:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what is the link to your game?
11:43:54 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what is the link to your game?
11:44:00 <Tigger_> here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5vf0wx664m2pyd/Aether%20Invaders-1.0.0.7.exe?dl=0
11:44:00 <Warren1984> what are the keys
11:44:00 <Warren1984> to play
11:44:00 <Warren1984> wasd
11:44:00 <Tigger_> the title screen says
11:44:08 <Tigger_> here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5vf0wx664m2pyd/Aether%20Invaders-1.0.0.7.exe?dl=0
11:44:45 <Warren1984> what are the keys
11:44:47 <Warren1984> to play
11:44:54 <Warren1984> wasd
11:45:00 <Tigger_> X to fire
11:45:00 <Tigger_> left and right arrow keys to move
11:45:00 <Tigger_> though a gamepad will work too
11:45:00 <Tigger_> which I assume you have
11:45:03 <Tigger_> the title screen says
11:45:06 <Tigger_> X to fire
11:45:13 <Tigger_> left and right arrow keys to move
11:45:19 <Tigger_> though a gamepad will work too
11:45:27 <Tigger_> which I assume you have
11:47:00 <Warren1984> why don't you modify the plane to a buk missle
11:47:53 <Warren1984> why don't you modify the plane to a buk missle
11:48:00 <Warren1984> which takes hits them all at once
11:48:00 <Tigger_> they are BUK missiles you're firing
11:48:00 <Tigger_> you are playing Putin
11:48:00 <Warren1984> vs america
11:48:11 <Warren1984> which takes hits them all at once
11:48:14 <Tigger_> they are BUK missiles you're firing
11:48:46 <Tigger_> you are playing Putin
11:49:00 <Tigger_> so you've played it?
11:49:00 <Warren1984> Putin has 1 space aircraft
11:49:00 <Warren1984> yeah
11:49:00 <Tigger_> how did you go?
11:49:00 <Warren1984> and the americans have heaps
11:49:00 <Warren1984> fairly bad
11:49:00 <Tigger_> what was your score?
11:49:00 <Warren1984> 1300 or something
11:49:00 <Warren1984> can't remember
11:49:00 <Tigger_> that's not too bad for a first go
11:49:02 <Warren1984> vs america
11:49:11 <Tigger_> so you've played it?
11:49:16 <Warren1984> Putin has 1 space aircraft
11:49:18 <Warren1984> yeah
11:49:25 <Tigger_> how did you go?
11:49:25 <Warren1984> and the americans have heaps
11:49:35 <Warren1984> fairly bad
11:49:43 <Tigger_> what was your score?
11:49:54 <Warren1984> 1300 or something
11:49:58 <Warren1984> can't remember
11:50:00 <Tigger_> practice and SOPs will be needed
11:50:02 <Tigger_> that's not too bad for a first go
11:50:12 <Tigger_> practice and SOPs will be needed
11:53:00 <Tigger_> how did you find the game overall?
11:54:00 <Tigger_> how did you find the game overall?
12:14:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBryXtKpy40
12:14:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube 2015 Toyota Camry XSE V6 Start Up, Test Drive, and In Depth Review
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12:14:57 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBryXtKpy40
12:14:57 <progressive> Youtube 2015 Toyota Camry XSE V6 Start Up, Test Drive, and In Depth Review
12:15:00 <Warren1984> same as space invaders
12:15:00 <Warren1984> except the explosion
12:15:04 <Warren1984> same as space invaders
12:15:13 <Warren1984> except the explosion
12:20:00 <Tigger_> it's a test of the game engine, not the game itself
12:20:52 <Tigger_> it's a test of the game engine, not the game itself
12:21:00 <Tigger_> the engine is currently being used to play a fairly typical Space Invaders game, but ultimately it'll be used for a more elaborate style of game
12:21:29 <Tigger_> the engine is currently being used to play a fairly typical Space Invaders game, but ultimately it'll be used for a more elaborate style of game
12:29:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9d5mXc7eg
12:29:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Apple Watch Rant
12:29:11 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9d5mXc7eg
12:29:11 <progressive> Youtube Apple Watch Rant
12:35:00 <erlich> i made it to work without an incident
12:35:15 <erlich> i made it to work without an incident
12:36:00 <Warren1984> cool
12:36:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXya_qowbE
12:36:16 <Warren1984> cool
12:37:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Apple Bullshits the World Again with the Apple Watch!!
12:37:04 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXya_qowbE
12:37:04 <progressive> Youtube Apple Bullshits the World Again with the Apple Watch!!
12:38:00 <Tigger_> the cost of the Apple Watch is all I need to hear
12:38:53 <Tigger_> the cost of the Apple Watch is all I need to hear
12:39:00 <Warren1984> its just a bullshit toy
12:39:00 <Warren1984> just like most smart phones
12:39:00 <Warren1984> impractical useless crap
12:39:33 <Warren1984> its just a bullshit toy
12:39:42 <Warren1984> just like most smart phones
12:39:52 <Warren1984> impractical useless crap
12:40:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YiVn5JQeTQ
12:40:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Russias Toughest Prison: The Condemned - BBC Documentary
12:40:31 <Warren1984> Tigger_ -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YiVn5JQeTQ
12:40:31 <progressive> Youtube Russias Toughest Prison: The Condemned - BBC Documentary
12:41:00 <Tigger_> would you rather spend the night in a haunted house or a Russian prison?
12:41:27 <Tigger_> would you rather spend the night in a haunted house or a Russian prison?
12:43:00 <Warren1984> a haunted house
12:43:00 <Warren1984> and you?
12:43:50 <Warren1984> a haunted house
12:43:57 <Warren1984> and you?
12:45:00 <Tigger_> haunted house
12:45:06 <Tigger_> haunted house
12:46:00 <erlich> Russian prison
12:46:22 <erlich> Russian prison
12:47:00 <Warren1984> I don't believe in haunted houses
12:47:00 <Warren1984> how are they haunted
12:47:00 <Tigger_> with ghosts
12:47:00 <Warren1984> how can you prove it in a very scientific way
12:47:00 <mrwuf> prove that your alive and not just dreaming
12:47:00 <Tigger_> you can't
12:47:04 <Warren1984> I don't believe in haunted houses
12:47:19 <Warren1984> how are they haunted
12:47:32 <Tigger_> with ghosts
12:47:40 <Warren1984> how can you prove it in a very scientific way
12:47:51 <mrwuf> prove that your alive and not just dreaming
12:47:54 <Tigger_> you can't
12:48:00 <Tigger_> ghosts don't willingly submit themselves to scientific studies, like a volunteer
12:48:19 <Tigger_> ghosts don't willingly submit themselves to scientific studies, like a volunteer
12:49:00 <mrwuf> where do you come from, why are you here, where do you go when you die
12:49:00 <Warren1984> do you have pictures of the ghost
12:49:00 <Warren1984> measurements
12:49:31 <mrwuf> where do you come from, why are you here, where do you go when you die
12:49:47 <Warren1984> do you have pictures of the ghost
12:49:54 <Warren1984> measurements
12:51:00 <Tigger_> tape measures just go straight through them
12:51:17 <Tigger_> tape measures just go straight through them
12:52:00 <Warren1984> meaning weapons would go straight through them as well
12:52:00 <mrwuf> our eyes only detect a very small frequency of light we call the visible spectrum and if you could see x-rays for example you could see through objects, our instruments for observing and successfully navigating physical matter are well designed but my only guess is that the life that animates us is a subtle force not easily or readily observable
12:52:04 <Warren1984> meaning weapons would go straight through them as well
12:52:23 <mrwuf> our eyes only detect a very small frequency of light we call the visible spectrum and if you could see x-rays for example you could see through objects, our instruments for observing and successfully navigating physical matter are well designed but my only guess is that the life that animates us is a subtle force not easily or readily observable
12:53:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0cB4xcTqI
12:53:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube World's Most Dangerous Female Prison - FULL Documentary
12:53:06 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0cB4xcTqI
12:53:06 <progressive> Youtube World's Most Dangerous Female Prison - FULL Documentary
12:54:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeT934u4OtE&feature=iv&src_vid=lM0cB4xcTqI&annotation_id=annotation_893279029
12:54:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Top Secrets about Nuclear Bomb - Full Documentary
12:54:31 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeT934u4OtE&feature=iv&src_vid=lM0cB4xcTqI&annotation_id=annotation_893279029
12:54:32 <progressive> Youtube Top Secrets about Nuclear Bomb - Full Documentary
13:02:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqjia4j10U
13:02:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Red Lentil Dahl
13:02:00 <Tigger_> how to cook lentils
13:02:26 <Tigger_> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqjia4j10U
13:02:26 <progressive> Youtube Red Lentil Dahl
13:02:33 <Tigger_> how to cook lentils
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13:05:00 <erlich> i looked up Private Internet Access last night
13:05:58 <erlich> i looked up Private Internet Access last night
13:06:00 <erlich> i thought the best VPNs were in Europe but PIA is supposed to be the best yet it is in the USA
13:06:00 <erlich> where a lot of DMCA complainers are from
13:06:16 <erlich> i thought the best VPNs were in Europe but PIA is supposed to be the best yet it is in the USA
13:06:27 <erlich> where a lot of DMCA complainers are from
13:08:00 <Tigger_> that's not really an issue
13:08:00 <mrwuf> probably unwise then
13:09:00 <Tigger_> what is much more important are data retention laws, such as in England they require ISPs to retain logs of customer activity for two years (or maybe more now)
13:09:00 <erlich> but i havent found any instances of people from PIA being outed
13:09:00 <mrwuf> although with the recent kim megaupload/mega american court system seems to be able to trump local laws
13:09:01 <Tigger_> that's not really an issue
13:09:03 <mrwuf> probably unwise then
13:09:47 <Tigger_> what is much more important are data retention laws, such as in England they require ISPs to retain logs of customer activity for two years (or maybe more now)
13:09:52 <erlich> but i havent found any instances of people from PIA being outed
13:10:00 <Tigger_> Kim Dotcom might've been safer if he was in the US all along
13:10:00 <mrwuf> Im planning on waiting until I receive a first warning then looking for an affordable asian based VPN
13:10:04 <mrwuf> although with the recent kim megaupload/mega american court system seems to be able to trump local laws
13:10:35 <Tigger_> Kim Dotcom might've been safer if he was in the US all along
13:10:35 <mrwuf> Im planning on waiting until I receive a first warning then looking for an affordable asian based VPN
13:11:00 <erlich> what do you mostly d/l?
13:11:15 <erlich> what do you mostly d/l?
13:12:00 <mrwuf> just tv shows and movies
13:12:00 <erlich> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bihiaqefj9qyfxr/Screenshot%202015-04-14%2011.12.14.png?dl=0
13:12:00 <erlich> i got that error. it may be a vm issue?
13:12:15 <mrwuf> just tv shows and movies
13:12:42 <erlich> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bihiaqefj9qyfxr/Screenshot%202015-04-14%2011.12.14.png?dl=0
13:13:00 <mrwuf> cops, south park, family guy, VICE, house of cards, better call saul, archer, american dad, simpsons, trailer park boys, true detective
13:13:00 <erlich> also it's a stock win 8.1 install
13:13:00 <mrwuf> avoid most films except comedies that receive a 6+ score on imdv
13:13:00 <erlich> ok ill try it under my xp box
13:13:00 <erlich> i dont really download many films
13:13:00 <Tigger_> won't run in a VM, shaders need direct access to the graphics hardware
13:13:01 <erlich> i got that error. it may be a vm issue?
13:13:05 <mrwuf> cops, south park, family guy, VICE, house of cards, better call saul, archer, american dad, simpsons, trailer park boys, true detective
13:13:13 <erlich> also it's a stock win 8.1 install
13:13:38 <mrwuf> avoid most films except comedies that receive a 6+ score on imdv
13:13:39 <erlich> ok ill try it under my xp box
13:13:45 <erlich> i dont really download many films
13:14:00 <erlich> i see
13:14:00 <Tigger_> actually I'd be surprised if any modern games run in a VM
13:14:00 <mrwuf> new game of thrones season first few episodes are out but I'm not touching them, those are most likely the ones being watched the hardest
13:14:00 <erlich> yeah, i wouldnt touch those
13:14:02 <Tigger_> won't run in a VM, shaders need direct access to the graphics hardware
13:14:14 <erlich> i see
13:14:28 <Tigger_> actually I'd be surprised if any modern games run in a VM
13:14:47 <mrwuf> new game of thrones season first few episodes are out but I'm not touching them, those are most likely the ones being watched the hardest
13:14:57 <erlich> yeah, i wouldnt touch those
13:15:00 <erlich> Silicon Valley is HBO too but probably under he radar
13:15:00 <erlich> i doubt if SV is shown on any private networks in Australia
13:15:00 <mrwuf> yea I watched first season it was pretty good I'm not overly thrilled or excited for second season tho
13:15:11 <erlich> Silicon Valley is HBO too but probably under he radar
13:15:41 <erlich> i doubt if SV is shown on any private networks in Australia
13:16:00 <erlich> it started again on sunday
13:16:00 <erlich> im really behind with Orphan Black
13:16:00 <erlich> i shoudl do a marathon of that
13:16:01 <mrwuf> yea I watched first season it was pretty good I'm not overly thrilled or excited for second season tho
13:16:12 <erlich> it started again on sunday
13:16:41 <erlich> im really behind with Orphan Black
13:16:48 <erlich> i shoudl do a marathon of that
13:17:00 <Warren1984> [11:02] <@Tigger_> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqjia4j10U
13:17:00 <Warren1984> [11:02] <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Red Lentil Dahl
13:17:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Red Lentil Dahl
13:17:00 <Warren1984> [11:02] <@Tigger_> how to cook lentils -> thanks
13:17:00 <Warren1984> ahh now I see why bin laden attacked America
13:17:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, there are thousands of videos for each type of dish
13:17:19 <Warren1984> [11:02] <@Tigger_> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqjia4j10U
13:17:20 <Warren1984> [11:02] <progressive> Youtube Red Lentil Dahl
13:17:20 <progressive> Youtube Red Lentil Dahl
13:17:20 <Warren1984> [11:02] <@Tigger_> how to cook lentils -> thanks
13:17:38 <Warren1984> ahh now I see why bin laden attacked America
13:17:41 <Tigger_> Warren1984, there are thousands of videos for each type of dish
13:18:00 <Warren1984> America was getting Pakistan to help the Afghan's against the soviets
13:18:00 <mrwuf> my internet bandwidth and download limits have be drastically reduced thanks to Malcom Turnbull/Rupert Murdouche.. so I'm on about 12kb/s atm.. which has kind of been a blessing since instead of visual entertainment I've been spending my time reading wikipedia
13:18:00 <erlich> Tigger_: how many levels are there with this game? or is there just one because you wanted to just test hte engine
13:18:00 <erlich> wow
13:18:00 <erlich> 12kb/s is probably why some farmers kill themselves out there
13:18:00 <Warren1984> but then the CIA agent arrested a pakistan business man during the development of Pakistan's nuclear weapons
13:18:00 <Warren1984> and Pakistan got a double message
13:18:09 <Warren1984> America was getting Pakistan to help the Afghan's against the soviets
13:18:10 <mrwuf> my internet bandwidth and download limits have be drastically reduced thanks to Malcom Turnbull/Rupert Murdouche.. so I'm on about 12kb/s atm.. which has kind of been a blessing since instead of visual entertainment I've been spending my time reading wikipedia
13:18:23 <erlich> Tigger_: how many levels are there with this game? or is there just one because you wanted to just test hte engine
13:18:31 <erlich> wow
13:18:45 <erlich> 12kb/s is probably why some farmers kill themselves out there
13:18:52 <Warren1984> but then the CIA agent arrested a pakistan business man during the development of Pakistan's nuclear weapons
13:19:00 <erlich> mostly about nature. mrwuf ?
13:19:00 <mrwuf> I was on 60Gb per month for $60... reduced to 20GB for $50... then Im shaped to hell
13:19:00 <erlich> youve probably had more time to play with your kitty too
13:19:00 <erlich> that's bloody awful
13:19:00 <Tigger_> erlich, 9 levels, but I'll be interested if anyone completes 1
13:19:04 <Warren1984> and Pakistan got a double message
13:19:07 <erlich> mostly about nature. mrwuf ?
13:19:33 <mrwuf> I was on 60Gb per month for $60... reduced to 20GB for $50... then Im shaped to hell
13:19:39 <erlich> youve probably had more time to play with your kitty too
13:19:48 <erlich> that's bloody awful
13:19:59 <Tigger_> erlich, 9 levels, but I'll be interested if anyone completes 1
13:20:00 <erlich> is it that hard?
13:20:00 <Tigger_> yep
13:20:00 <erlich> that's just going to motivate me to beat it then
13:20:00 <Tigger_> you could just run it and find out
13:20:00 <erlich> ive got a spare win laptop at home
13:20:00 <Tigger_> there are no trojans
13:20:06 <erlich> is it that hard?
13:20:20 <Tigger_> yep
13:20:24 <erlich> that's just going to motivate me to beat it then
13:20:27 <Tigger_> you could just run it and find out
13:20:37 <erlich> ive got a spare win laptop at home
13:20:47 <Tigger_> there are no trojans
13:21:00 <erlich> how far have you gotten into it
13:21:00 <erlich> did you originally have cheats to warp to level 9 etc
13:21:45 <erlich> how far have you gotten into it
13:21:54 <erlich> did you originally have cheats to warp to level 9 etc
13:22:00 <erlich> im generally terrible at games, but when it's simple left/right shoot then i can hyperfocus very well
13:22:00 <Tigger_> I've done up to level 9, no cheats
13:22:00 <erlich> what was your score?
13:22:00 <Tigger_> 14,000 and something
13:22:27 <erlich> im generally terrible at games, but when it's simple left/right shoot then i can hyperfocus very well
13:22:28 <Tigger_> I've done up to level 9, no cheats
13:22:36 <erlich> what was your score?
13:22:44 <Tigger_> 14,000 and something
13:23:00 <mrwuf> Im reading heaps of stuff mostly ancient history related
13:23:00 <erlich> ive been doing a bit of research into ancient history lately too
13:23:00 <mrwuf> started to get onto nature, rivers, reefs, wonders of the world, got boring fast
13:23:00 <erlich> but mostly in the form of crash courses on youtube
13:23:00 <mrwuf> cool
13:23:00 <erlich> nature stuff should really be in the form of videos
13:23:00 <erlich> so you can see the beauty
13:23:07 <mrwuf> Im reading heaps of stuff mostly ancient history related
13:23:23 <erlich> ive been doing a bit of research into ancient history lately too
13:23:23 <mrwuf> started to get onto nature, rivers, reefs, wonders of the world, got boring fast
13:23:30 <erlich> but mostly in the form of crash courses on youtube
13:23:40 <mrwuf> cool
13:23:47 <erlich> nature stuff should really be in the form of videos
13:23:53 <erlich> so you can see the beauty
13:24:00 <mrwuf> ya I have a whole folder of them to watch but can't seem to bring myself around to it
13:24:00 <erlich> are you familiar with 'the teaching company'
13:24:00 <erlich> they make a lot of lectures
13:24:00 <mrwuf> nope
13:24:00 <erlich> ive got a few of theirs
13:24:00 <erlich> theyve got video courses on nearlty everythying
13:24:00 <mrwuf> cool, i'll check em out when first month rolls around
13:24:07 <mrwuf> ya I have a whole folder of them to watch but can't seem to bring myself around to it
13:24:20 <erlich> are you familiar with 'the teaching company'
13:24:25 <erlich> they make a lot of lectures
13:24:27 <mrwuf> nope
13:24:29 <erlich> ive got a few of theirs
13:24:41 <erlich> theyve got video courses on nearlty everythying
13:24:46 <mrwuf> cool, i'll check em out when first month rolls around
13:25:00 <mrwuf> hows life treating you
13:25:53 <mrwuf> hows life treating you
13:26:00 <erlich> bit of an up and down thing
13:26:00 <erlich> before the last few days i wasnt really motivated to do much, just sleep
13:26:00 <erlich> but my body clockl has been reset again
13:26:00 <erlich> i wake up earlier now
13:26:00 <erlich> and require less slseep
13:26:11 <erlich> bit of an up and down thing
13:26:36 <erlich> before the last few days i wasnt really motivated to do much, just sleep
13:26:48 <erlich> but my body clockl has been reset again
13:26:55 <erlich> i wake up earlier now
13:27:00 <erlich> i think i only had 2-3 today
13:27:00 <mrwuf> very cool
13:27:00 <erlich> i wondered where you had gone
13:27:00 <mrwuf> do you wear jackets?
13:27:00 <erlich> i saw you passed the torch to kunny
13:27:00 <erlich> only recently as it's been cold
13:27:02 <erlich> and require less slseep
13:27:08 <erlich> i think i only had 2-3 today
13:27:26 <mrwuf> very cool
13:27:36 <erlich> i wondered where you had gone
13:27:40 <mrwuf> do you wear jackets?
13:27:43 <erlich> i saw you passed the torch to kunny
13:27:55 <erlich> only recently as it's been cold
13:28:00 <mrwuf> I'm mostly on free node but I still am on austnet
13:28:00 <mrwuf> http://www.tarocash.com.au/Casual-Jackets.aspx?pl&s=363
13:28:00 <mrwuf> pretty good sale that was all
13:28:00 <erlich> free node has some good people for when you needto ask questions btu then you get these spergy fascusts
13:28:00 <mrwuf> they are all nerds that smoke weed so its very chill
13:28:09 <mrwuf> I'm mostly on free node but I still am on austnet
13:28:27 <mrwuf> http://www.tarocash.com.au/Casual-Jackets.aspx?pl&s=363
13:28:35 <mrwuf> pretty good sale that was all
13:28:38 <erlich> free node has some good people for when you needto ask questions btu then you get these spergy fascusts
13:29:00 <erlich> i have used them for work purposes before when needing help with fixing stuff
13:29:00 <erlich> the response time with questions is pretty decent
13:29:00 <mrwuf> this is what I bought http://www.tarocash.com.au/MAX-HOODED-BOMBER-JACKET.aspx?p6596&cr=uozi__012822
13:29:01 <mrwuf> they are all nerds that smoke weed so its very chill
13:29:33 <erlich> i have used them for work purposes before when needing help with fixing stuff
13:29:44 <erlich> the response time with questions is pretty decent
13:30:00 <erlich> yeah, i thought that was a good one, with teh hood
13:30:00 <mrwuf> detachable too, so can rock it fully leather or dress it down with a hoody
13:30:01 <mrwuf> this is what I bought http://www.tarocash.com.au/MAX-HOODED-BOMBER-JACKET.aspx?p6596&cr=uozi__012822
13:30:31 <erlich> yeah, i thought that was a good one, with teh hood
13:30:52 <mrwuf> detachable too, so can rock it fully leather or dress it down with a hoody
13:31:00 <erlich> i generally get hand me downs from my older brother
13:31:00 <mrwuf> sweet
13:31:00 <erlich> he is more fashion conscious than me
13:31:00 <mrwuf> if he has good style your set
13:31:00 <erlich> brb - feeling a bit sick again
13:31:00 <erlich> (he does)
13:31:26 <erlich> i generally get hand me downs from my older brother
13:31:35 <mrwuf> sweet
13:31:39 <erlich> he is more fashion conscious than me
13:31:46 <mrwuf> if he has good style your set
13:31:50 <erlich> brb - feeling a bit sick again
13:31:54 <erlich> (he does)
13:32:00 <Warren1984> talking to Keshan
13:33:00 <Warren1984> talking on skype isn't that bad
13:33:00 <Warren1984> I always thinking I would get nervous
13:33:03 <Warren1984> talking to Keshan
13:33:16 <Warren1984> talking on skype isn't that bad
13:33:50 <Warren1984> I always thinking I would get nervous
13:34:00 <Tigger_> Ke$han
13:34:12 <Tigger_> Ke$han
13:39:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what would clip clop do if you punched him
13:39:00 <Warren1984> would he turn around and kick you
13:39:00 <Tigger_> it would hurt his feelings most of all
13:39:00 <Warren1984> I don't think a horse would feel it
13:39:09 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what would clip clop do if you punched him
13:39:16 <Warren1984> would he turn around and kick you
13:39:26 <Tigger_> it would hurt his feelings most of all
13:39:42 <Warren1984> I don't think a horse would feel it
13:44:00 <Tigger_> it would cause trust issues
13:44:05 <Tigger_> it would cause trust issues
13:52:00 <mrwuf> whats the difference between being fear and respected?
13:52:00 <mrwuf> feared*
13:52:27 <mrwuf> whats the difference between being fear and respected?
13:52:37 <mrwuf> feared*
13:53:00 <mrwuf> whoever answers correctly first gets a mrwuf gold star (gold stars are not redeeming for cash, limit one gold star per person, gold stars are only valid for 1 week)
13:53:45 <mrwuf> whoever answers correctly first gets a mrwuf gold star (gold stars are not redeeming for cash, limit one gold star per person, gold stars are only valid for 1 week)
13:57:00 <mrwuf> no takers?
13:57:00 <mrwuf> ok... how about another riddle... since this seems to be going so well
13:57:06 <mrwuf> no takers?
13:58:00 <Tigger_> without fear there is no respect
13:58:00 <mrwuf> what four USA presidents are not buried in america?
13:58:00 <mrwuf> ohh I like your awnser
13:58:02 <mrwuf> ok... how about another riddle... since this seems to be going so well
13:58:20 <Tigger_> without fear there is no respect
13:58:21 <mrwuf> what four USA presidents are not buried in america?
13:58:43 <mrwuf> ohh I like your awnser
13:59:00 <mrwuf> thats a definite gold star+ answer well done
13:59:00 <Tigger_> well Obama isn't buried in America
13:59:00 <mrwuf> your two for two, well done..
13:59:00 <mrwuf> lets racket things up a gear
13:59:00 <erlich> lol Tigger_
13:59:16 <mrwuf> thats a definite gold star+ answer well done
13:59:18 <Tigger_> well Obama isn't buried in America
13:59:32 <mrwuf> your two for two, well done..
13:59:50 <mrwuf> lets racket things up a gear
13:59:55 <erlich> lol Tigger_
14:00:00 <erlich> hey my sister's friend's cat has kittens!!
14:00:00 <Tigger_> like an early Christmas
14:00:00 <erlich> one of them is doing that boxing thing on all fours
14:00:00 <mrwuf> there are things you can control, things you can influence and things you cannot control... what is the one thing you control?
14:00:00 <erlich> in the photo
14:00:00 <erlich> the paw is blurred
14:00:00 <erlich> because of the fast motion
14:00:00 <erlich> cat me if you can
14:00:06 <erlich> hey my sister's friend's cat has kittens!!
14:00:19 <Tigger_> like an early Christmas
14:00:28 <erlich> one of them is doing that boxing thing on all fours
14:00:32 <mrwuf> there are things you can control, things you can influence and things you cannot control... what is the one thing you control?
14:00:33 <erlich> in the photo
14:00:40 <erlich> the paw is blurred
14:00:45 <erlich> because of the fast motion
14:00:50 <erlich> cat me if you can
14:01:00 <mrwuf> hehehe
14:01:00 <erlich> cats dont have a preference for breeding over the seasons right? winter vs summer
14:01:00 <erlich> or do they
14:01:00 <Tigger_> you can't even control your thoughts or emotions, the only thing you ultimately control is whether you are going to commit suicide or not
14:01:00 <Tigger_> they do, they prefer spring
14:01:00 <mrwuf> hehehe dark I like your style
14:01:12 <mrwuf> hehehe
14:01:19 <erlich> cats dont have a preference for breeding over the seasons right? winter vs summer
14:01:22 <erlich> or do they
14:01:45 <Tigger_> you can't even control your thoughts or emotions, the only thing you ultimately control is whether you are going to commit suicide or not
14:01:58 <Tigger_> they do, they prefer spring
14:02:00 <mrwuf> hehehe dark I like your style
14:03:00 <erlich> i remember a debate years ago in a philosophy channel over whether people who commit suicide had a choice
14:03:00 <erlich> i cant believe they even had a debate over that
14:03:23 <erlich> i remember a debate years ago in a philosophy channel over whether people who commit suicide had a choice
14:03:29 <erlich> i cant believe they even had a debate over that
14:04:00 <Tigger_> perhaps not if it is driven by depression or mental illness, but one could rationally commit suicide, such as if you know enemy troops are going to torture you, then execute you
14:04:53 <Tigger_> perhaps not if it is driven by depression or mental illness, but one could rationally commit suicide, such as if you know enemy troops are going to torture you, then execute you
14:05:00 <erlich> it's a common question on Christian websites if those who commit suicide may enter HEaven
14:05:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this explains the start of terrorism -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeT934u4OtE&feature=iv&src_vid=lM0cB4xcTqI&annotation_id=annotation_893279029
14:05:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Top Secrets about Nuclear Bomb - Full Documentary
14:05:49 <erlich> it's a common question on Christian websites if those who commit suicide may enter HEaven
14:06:00 <mrwuf> we seem to be presented with the unique circumstance where we're not entirely directed by our animal nature instead left alone to flesh out our own nature
14:06:00 <Warren1984> money was the root cause of the problem
14:06:00 <Warren1984> the scientist Khan stole the idea from the dutch while working there
14:06:00 <Tigger_> who is Khan?
14:06:02 <Warren1984> Tigger_ this explains the start of terrorism -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeT934u4OtE&feature=iv&src_vid=lM0cB4xcTqI&annotation_id=annotation_893279029
14:06:03 <progressive> Youtube Top Secrets about Nuclear Bomb - Full Documentary
14:06:15 <mrwuf> we seem to be presented with the unique circumstance where we're not entirely directed by our animal nature instead left alone to flesh out our own nature
14:06:23 <Warren1984> money was the root cause of the problem
14:06:42 <Warren1984> the scientist Khan stole the idea from the dutch while working there
14:06:59 <Tigger_> who is Khan?
14:07:00 <Warren1984> he wanted to build one for pakistan, to prevent the Indian's from attacking Pakistan
14:07:00 <mrwuf> are there any animals in nature that commit suicide with intentional purpose
14:07:00 <mrwuf> aside from ourselves
14:07:00 <Warren1984> instead he got greedy and became a sales man and distrubed nuclear technology all over the world
14:07:00 <Warren1984> Khan is the nuclear scientist
14:07:12 <Warren1984> he wanted to build one for pakistan, to prevent the Indian's from attacking Pakistan
14:07:42 <mrwuf> are there any animals in nature that commit suicide with intentional purpose
14:07:48 <mrwuf> aside from ourselves
14:07:50 <Warren1984> instead he got greedy and became a sales man and distrubed nuclear technology all over the world
14:08:00 <Warren1984> Khan is the nuclear scientist
14:08:00 <Warren1984> who stole documents from the dutch
14:08:00 <Warren1984> watch the video
14:08:00 <Tigger_> yes, animal suicide has been observed
14:08:00 <Warren1984> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan
14:08:00 <Tigger_> such as in a foreign zoo, there were a pair of kangaroos, and one died of natural causes, and the other kangaroo committed suicide a few weeks later
14:08:10 <Warren1984> who stole documents from the dutch
14:08:15 <Warren1984> watch the video
14:08:20 <Tigger_> yes, animal suicide has been observed
14:08:46 <Warren1984> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan
14:08:55 <Tigger_> such as in a foreign zoo, there were a pair of kangaroos, and one died of natural causes, and the other kangaroo committed suicide a few weeks later
14:09:00 <mrwuf> well thats very sad
14:09:38 <mrwuf> well thats very sad
14:11:00 <mrwuf> Warren1984, I suspect terrorism stated long time ago - throwing dead bodies into wells to cause death to its inhabitations is very old
14:11:30 <mrwuf> Warren1984, I suspect terrorism stated long time ago - throwing dead bodies into wells to cause death to its inhabitations is very old
14:12:00 <mrwuf> using fear or threats of violence in order to control your environment is likely not unique to us, other male dominated primate societies and even dogs have a similar behaviour
14:13:03 <mrwuf> using fear or threats of violence in order to control your environment is likely not unique to us, other male dominated primate societies and even dogs have a similar behaviour
14:14:00 <mrwuf> we also have unique ways of pacifying aggressors, dogs for example lay down and reveal their necks, chimps put their hand out making it vulnerable to being bitten, and you may have see a human fight where one person gets beaten and knocked down and tries to stand up and the crowd admonishes the fallen to 'stay down, don't get up'
14:14:40 <mrwuf> we also have unique ways of pacifying aggressors, dogs for example lay down and reveal their necks, chimps put their hand out making it vulnerable to being bitten, and you may have see a human fight where one person gets beaten and knocked down and tries to stand up and the crowd admonishes the fallen to 'stay down, don't get up'
14:18:00 <mrwuf> if you want to understand terrorism in its current form, plus the motivations behind this current series of wars start at Constantine, now Instanbul, and follow the crusaders and between Christianity and what was the Otterman empire
14:19:00 <Tigger_> if cats trust you they roll on their back and show you their tummy
14:19:02 <mrwuf> if you want to understand terrorism in its current form, plus the motivations behind this current series of wars start at Constantine, now Instanbul, and follow the crusaders and between Christianity and what was the Otterman empire
14:19:08 <Tigger_> if cats trust you they roll on their back and show you their tummy
14:32:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzaxRm9CkPE
14:32:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Which Countries Have Nuclear Weapons?
14:32:31 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzaxRm9CkPE
14:32:31 <progressive> Youtube Which Countries Have Nuclear Weapons?
14:33:00 <Warren1984> [12:11] <mrwuf> Warren1984, I suspect terrorism stated long time ago - throwing dead bodies into wells to cause death to its inhabitations is very old -> yeah the world has never been a safe place
14:33:00 <Warren1984> always wars
14:33:00 <Warren1984> terrorist threats
14:33:08 <Warren1984> [12:11] <mrwuf> Warren1984, I suspect terrorism stated long time ago - throwing dead bodies into wells to cause death to its inhabitations is very old -> yeah the world has never been a safe place
14:33:12 <Warren1984> always wars
14:33:19 <Warren1984> terrorist threats
14:34:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3gpM9UnV_w
14:34:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Discovery Channel The Red Bomb 1of 3 Stolen Secrets
14:34:00 <Warren1984> how Russian's made nukes
14:34:33 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3gpM9UnV_w
14:34:34 <progressive> Youtube Discovery Channel The Red Bomb 1of 3 Stolen Secrets
14:34:43 <Warren1984> how Russian's made nukes
14:42:00 <mrwuf> ah but is safety a real measure of success? a perfectly controlled environment is a prison
14:42:53 <mrwuf> ah but is safety a real measure of success? a perfectly controlled environment is a prison
14:46:00 <mrwuf> liberty is at the opposite end of that scale, its dangerous especially in a world with so much temptation, the best we can probably do is educate people to the cause and effects of different behaviours, a society that has many laws is a dystopia instead one that places the emphasis on values is closer to a paradise
14:46:39 <mrwuf> liberty is at the opposite end of that scale, its dangerous especially in a world with so much temptation, the best we can probably do is educate people to the cause and effects of different behaviours, a society that has many laws is a dystopia instead one that places the emphasis on values is closer to a paradise
14:54:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNxkmEABbvg
14:54:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube How Chinese made atomic bomb in 1960s 橫空出世 中國 原子彈
14:54:44 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNxkmEABbvg
14:54:45 <progressive> Youtube How Chinese made atomic bomb in 1960s 橫空出世 中國 原子彈
14:59:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would like this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BgnML4BcU
14:59:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube RUSSIAN SPIES - DECEITFUL BEAUTIES (Documentary) CIA/Double Agent/Spy
14:59:08 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would like this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BgnML4BcU
14:59:08 <progressive> Youtube RUSSIAN SPIES - DECEITFUL BEAUTIES (Documentary) CIA/Double Agent/Spy
15:07:00 <Tigger_> yes, I would very much
15:07:43 <Tigger_> yes, I would very much
15:26:00 <Tigger_> I just tried running my game on the Mac natively, it doesn't appear to support shaders at all
15:26:00 <Tigger_> at least not the Mac Mini
15:26:53 <Tigger_> I just tried running my game on the Mac natively, it doesn't appear to support shaders at all
15:26:59 <Tigger_> at least not the Mac Mini
15:28:00 <Tigger_> I have a fallback routine for devices that don't support shaders, looks like I'll have to add the Mac to the list
15:28:12 <Tigger_> I have a fallback routine for devices that don't support shaders, looks like I'll have to add the Mac to the list
15:29:00 <Tigger_> on the plus side, even though I can't compile using LLVM on the Mac, the game ran very smoothly, masses of particles were very fluid
15:29:47 <Tigger_> on the plus side, even though I can't compile using LLVM on the Mac, the game ran very smoothly, masses of particles were very fluid
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16:04:00 <Warren1984> .co.za
16:04:00 <Warren1984> that is south africa
16:04:00 <Tigger_> might've been RiverQueen
16:04:45 <Warren1984> .co.za
16:04:53 <Warren1984> that is south africa
16:05:01 <Tigger_> might've been RiverQueen
16:06:00 <Warren1984> https://www.mtnbusiness.co.za/Pages/Home.aspx
16:06:00 <Warren1984> who is riverqueen
16:06:00 <Tigger_> she used to come here regularly, she was from South Africa
16:06:17 <Warren1984> https://www.mtnbusiness.co.za/Pages/Home.aspx
16:06:28 <Warren1984> who is riverqueen
16:06:46 <Tigger_> she used to come here regularly, she was from South Africa
16:07:00 <Warren1984> did she tell you her name?
16:07:00 <Warren1984> it could be someone I know
16:07:00 <Tigger_> she did, but I forget now
16:07:18 <Warren1984> did she tell you her name?
16:07:29 <Warren1984> it could be someone I know
16:07:41 <Tigger_> she did, but I forget now
16:08:00 <Warren1984> Irene?
16:08:00 <Warren1984> Joy?
16:08:00 <Warren1984> Kim?
16:08:00 <Tigger_> never mind that, how are you going with my game?
16:08:12 <Warren1984> Irene?
16:08:19 <Warren1984> Joy?
16:08:23 <Warren1984> Kim?
16:08:52 <Tigger_> never mind that, how are you going with my game?
16:10:00 <Warren1984> haven't played it again
16:10:00 <Tigger_> why not?
16:10:00 <Warren1984> watching documentarys
16:10:14 <Warren1984> haven't played it again
16:10:19 <Tigger_> why not?
16:10:19 <Warren1984> watching documentarys
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17:15:08 <Warren1984> great another bill of $493.33
17:15:10 <Warren1984> for RAC
17:15:32 <Warren1984> 1st party insurance
17:15:47 <Warren1984> its a total waste of my money, but my Mum insists I have it
17:16:03 <Warren1984> because if I get a new car, then the premium won't go up
17:17:05 <Tigger_> how much is 3rd party insurance?
17:17:50 <Warren1984> 6 months
17:18:08 <Tigger_> warren, why not get a credit card and run up thousands in debt?
17:18:09 <Warren1984> $163.60
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17:28:24 <Tigger_> <Tigger_> I just tried running my game on the Mac natively, it doesn't appear to support shaders at all
17:28:24 <Tigger_> <Tigger_> at least not the Mac Mini
17:28:25 <Tigger_> <Tigger_> I have a fallback routine for devices that don't support shaders, looks like I'll have to add the Mac to the list
17:28:25 <Tigger_> <Tigger_> on the plus side, even though I can't compile using LLVM on the Mac, the game ran very smoothly, masses of particles were very fluid
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18:23:06 <Warren1984> Ethanol has your headache gone
18:29:27 <Ethanol> yes
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18:42:18 <Tigger_> bbl
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18:43:50 <CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu> roflllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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19:17:00 <Ozone> well GTA5 launched today
19:18:02 <Ozone> well GTA5 launched today
19:21:00 <Warren1984> CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu -> who is this in the picture -> https://www.google.com.au/
19:21:22 <Warren1984> CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu -> who is this in the picture -> https://www.google.com.au/
19:22:00 <CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu> looks like tarryn to me
19:22:55 <CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu> looks like tarryn to me
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19:52:00 <Warren1984> isn't it clippy
19:52:00 <Warren1984> hey xm
19:52:00 <Warren1984> how is your stomach?
19:52:32 <Warren1984> isn't it clippy
19:52:36 <Warren1984> hey xm
19:52:45 <Warren1984> how is your stomach?
20:06:54 Quit: ripley07 ([email protected]) Quit:
20:11:00 <Warren1984> so hungry
20:11:00 <Warren1984> waiting for my Dad to pick me up
20:11:00 <Warren1984> take me out for dinner
20:11:26 <Warren1984> so hungry
20:11:33 <Warren1984> waiting for my Dad to pick me up
20:11:39 <Warren1984> take me out for dinner
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21:40:00 <Warren1984> bee_girl
21:41:00 <bee_girl> hey Warren1984
21:41:00 <Warren1984> CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu was stalking me on skype
21:41:05 <Warren1984> bee_girl
21:41:11 <bee_girl> hey Warren1984
21:41:27 <Warren1984> CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu was stalking me on skype
21:53:00 <TiSk> hi
21:53:00 <TiSk> ne1 here
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21:54:00 <TiSk> hi
21:54:00 <TiSk> i am alisid
21:54:00 <TiSk> https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11060452_1626158437619598_2682926451517469847_n.jpg?oh=d42bf9398b4ca3766aac3798ce32af71&oe=55ABF3B7
21:54:00 <CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu> ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ TiSk
21:54:03 <TiSk> ne1 here
21:54:12 <TiSk> i am alisid
21:54:14 <TiSk> https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11060452_1626158437619598_2682926451517469847_n.jpg?oh=d42bf9398b4ca3766aac3798ce32af71&oe=55ABF3B7
21:54:35 <CEO_Brettingham_Netanyahu> ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ TiSk
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21:58:00 <TiSk> lol
21:58:00 <TiSk> alisid hardcore beats
21:58:26 <TiSk> lol
21:58:37 <TiSk> alisid hardcore beats
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22:42:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ make me a SOP on this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiiwreoXSVg
22:42:00 <progressive> 1,0 You0,5tube Pantry Organization: How to Maintain Your Stockpile
22:43:01 <Warren1984> Tigger_ make me a SOP on this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiiwreoXSVg
22:43:01 <progressive> Youtube Pantry Organization: How to Maintain Your Stockpile
22:45:00 <Warren1984> Tue Apr 14 20:45:24 2015
22:45:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if I don't take my meds now I may commit suicide or have a psychotic break with reality
22:45:30 <Warren1984> Tue Apr 14 20:45:24 2015
22:45:52 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if I don't take my meds now I may commit suicide or have a psychotic break with reality
22:49:00 <bee_girl> i see u called me on skype Warren1984
22:49:00 <bee_girl> i missed ur call
22:49:00 <Warren1984> I can you again
22:49:15 <bee_girl> i see u called me on skype Warren1984
22:49:18 <bee_girl> i missed ur call
22:49:51 <Warren1984> I can you again
22:54:00 <Warren1984> tomorrow
22:54:00 <Warren1984> sorry bee_girl
22:54:35 <Warren1984> tomorrow
22:54:38 <Warren1984> sorry bee_girl
23:05:00 <bee_girl> thats ok
23:05:37 <bee_girl> thats ok
23:08:00 <xm> bee_girl, what's your skype?
23:08:25 <xm> bee_girl, what's your skype?
23:09:00 <xm> OK i dont mean to be so demanding
23:09:00 <xm> ms bee_girl, i shall assume nothing, may i please have your skype?
23:09:13 <xm> OK i dont mean to be so demanding
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23:09:25 <xm> ms bee_girl, i shall assume nothing, may i please have your skype?
23:10:00 <bee_girl> u just wnat me to put it out there in #pd
23:10:00 <xm> no, you can say it in PM
23:10:15 <bee_girl> u just wnat me to put it out there in #pd
23:10:38 <xm> no, you can say it in PM
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