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19:02:00 * Now talking in #melbourne
19:02:00 * Topic is 'http://melbourne-rules.webs.com/ | KOOL online radio!! >> Tune in at http://www.etaradio.com.au | I hate topics.'
19:02:00 * Set by Ice_Flare on Sat May 23 19:37:14
19:02:00 <spilly> now its somewhere closer to the train station
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19:02:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> job network is getting a overhaul this june or july i believe
19:02:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> new goverment new system?
19:03:00 <River> again?
19:03:00 <spilly> i think we need a new *system* of government.
19:03:00 <River> they do that every 2 years
19:03:00 <Glenn> Dream on WiLd_TuRkeY... the rail network was getting one too! :P
19:03:00 <spilly> :-(
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19:03:00 <River> rail network has been privatised in vic
19:04:00 <River> so government cant do too much for it atm
19:04:00 <spilly> government can do whatever it likes mate :p
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19:04:00 <spilly> last time i check, itwas the government whom created the legislation...
19:04:00 <River> spilly they want to do NOTHING
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19:04:00 <spilly> Not true!
19:04:00 <Matty^^> lol the rail system got the fucked end of the deal this year
19:04:00 <Aar0n> River - considering the government gives the company the contract for rail
19:05:00 <Aar0n> and the contract rights are up later this year
19:05:00 <River> Aar0n the government still contract it out for set time frame
19:05:00 <spilly> Governments want to be seen as doing SOMETHING, whilst investing NOTHING.
19:05:00 <River> Government does not want to spend money on it
19:05:00 <River> they want the PRIVATE sector to do it
19:05:00 <Aar0n> River - however if the government forces issues to improve it then connex must do it
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19:05:00 <River> Aar0n only withing the frame of the contract
19:06:00 <Aar0n> loooooooooooooooooooooool, how much money was put towards the transport system in the recent budget ?
19:06:00 <River> Aar0n How much money was put to the RAIL system from that?
19:06:00 <River> Aar0n All prvt contracts, maintenance falls down to the prvt company
19:07:00 <River> not government
19:07:00 <Aar0n> $4.6 billion for metro rail
19:07:00 <Aar0n> nationwide
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19:07:00 <River> thats federal you FOOL
19:07:00 <Aar0n> thats what i said faggot
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19:07:00 <River> Federal dont do the rail systems
19:07:00 <River> you idiot
19:07:00 <River> Rail is state
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19:07:00 <Aar0n> federal budget for all australia
19:08:00 <River> Aar0n you just showed how much u talk out your ass
19:08:00 <River> Rail Systems come from State Funding
19:08:00 <Aar0n> you have no idea you cry baby
19:08:00 <River> There are federal roads
19:08:00 <Aar0n> do u even know what the term federal budget means ?
19:08:00 <River> Aar0n who put the tenders out to connex?
19:08:00 <Aar0n> it means funding for all the nation
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19:08:00 <River> not federal you fool
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19:08:00 <Aar0n> River u have no idea on the topic
19:08:00 <Aar0n> you pretend you do but fail
19:09:00 * Matty^^ drives his rail trolley on the old leongather line hehe
19:09:00 * Asianbabe26 is now known as depression
19:09:00 <River> Aar0n You pretend you are right when you are WRONG
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19:09:00 <Aar0n> looooooooooooool @ River not knowing what a federal budget means
19:09:00 <River> Admit when you are wrong instead of resorting to insults like "cry"
19:09:00 <Aar0n> loooooooooooooooooooooooool
19:09:00 <River> thats lame
19:09:00 <River> check who funds what Aar0n
19:09:00 <Aar0n> ha ha ha ha ha ha
19:09:00 <River> I am sure u can use your precious GOOGLE to find more
19:09:00 <Aar0n> federal = nationwide
19:10:00 <River> thats obviously where you TRY to find information
19:10:00 <Aar0n> looooooooooooooooool @ River
19:10:00 <River> becuase you have no idea of what the levels of government actually do
19:10:00 <River> laugh Aar0n but u have no idea how government works
19:10:00 <PEAKER-CHU> im fucking bored.
19:10:00 <Aar0n> loooooooooooooool
19:10:00 <River> its all you can do is laugh when you are wrong
19:10:00 <Aar0n> loLLerskates !!!!!!!!!
19:11:00 * Lish sleeps
19:11:00 <Glenn> River... neither does anyone else! Does the government actually work?
19:11:00 * WiLd_TuRkeY use to rollerblade
19:11:00 <Aar0n> This Budget supports jobs today by investing in the infrastructure Australia needs for tomorrow
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19:11:00 <Aar0n> australias infrastructure
19:11:00 <River> Federal gives states money
19:11:00 <Aar0n> so every state & territory
19:11:00 <Lish> this is boring convo
19:11:00 <Bellatrix> my oh my....so full
19:11:00 <Matty^^> i agree
19:11:00 <River> states do what they will with it as far as that shit goes
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19:11:00 <Matty^^> the govt can buy me a new truck ;)
19:12:00 <Aar0n> it's 2 lots of funding actually
19:12:00 <Aar0n> federal & state
19:12:00 <Lish> what did u eat bellatrix
19:12:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> the govt can give me a job
19:12:00 <Aar0n> so you can suck it with ur lack of knowledge
19:12:00 <River> There are some FEDERAL projects, like National Broadband, some roads which are NATIONAL
19:12:00 <River> and other things
19:12:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> no less then 45000pa
19:12:00 <Aar0n> i never mentioned roads
19:12:00 <Aar0n> I never new trains can travel on roads
19:12:00 <Aar0n> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
19:12:00 <Matty^^> LOLL
19:12:00 <River> Rail has NEVER been federal, Federal may give the states some money, but it is up to them if how they use it
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19:12:00 <River> idiot
19:13:00 <Matty^^> Aar0n: we need more Hitchies to run on the lines :P
19:13:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> they would be the ones to get jobs with if anyone could find out who and where to get the jobs from
19:13:00 <River> why do you think there is no standard rail gauge in australia
19:13:00 <Owen> River: ever heard of ARTC?
19:13:00 <Aar0n> hey people lets not catch the bus, lets wait for the train !, much faster on the road
19:13:00 <Glenn> Aar0n.. the only people awho think the buget is OK are those drop kick and deros who have never had a job, never will get a job, enjoy bludging off the dole.. and don't give a rats about the massive debt! :P
19:13:00 <Bellatrix> hahhahhahahahahahhahahahahahha Aar0n
19:13:00 <Matty^^> hey Aar0n i got one spare set on the rail trolley u comming
19:13:00 <Matty^^> seat
19:14:00 <Bellatrix> Glenn, i think the budget is ok and i work....
19:14:00 <Aar0n> Matty^^ - nah, trains are every 15 mins, i'm gunna wait for the next 1, u may see me when u go past, i'll be on teh side of the road waiting
19:14:00 <Owen> River: I mean, its only a wholy owned Commonwealth Government corporation. Has nothing to do with the states :P
19:14:00 <Matty^^> na i mean the country raillines :P
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19:14:00 <Bellatrix> Glenn, however my philosphy during these times is you have to lose money to stimulate the economy :P
19:14:00 <River> Owen does ARTC have control over connex ?
19:14:00 <Bellatrix> my tum tum hurts though
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19:14:00 <Glenn> I lost money regardless!
19:15:00 <Bellatrix> what is the demonstration going on in the city for?
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19:15:00 <Bellatrix> Glenn, and how did you "lose" money?
19:15:00 <Bellatrix> with decreased interest rates now would be the prime time to borrow
19:15:00 <Aar0n> The centrepiece of the Budget is a significant program of investment in nation building infrastructure, including roads, rail, ports, universities and energy efficiency.
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19:15:00 <Glenn> Superannuation
19:15:00 <Owen> River: No, but they interact with Connex
19:15:00 <Bellatrix> oh....
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19:16:00 <Aar0n> what ? you mean rail and roads are 2 seperate entities ? funny that, damn im waiting for a train on my road for nothing !
19:16:00 <Bellatrix> well, i dont even think of that :P
19:16:00 <River> Most rail networks are privatised correct?
19:16:00 <Bellatrix> lol Aar0n
19:16:00 <Owen> No.
19:16:00 <Matty^^> night kids
19:16:00 <River> and the one that started this conversation
19:16:00 <River> was the one run by Connex
19:16:00 <Matty^^> most rail networks dont have trains on them
19:16:00 <River> if you all want to look back at it
19:16:00 * Matty^^ slaps Red_Wolf_2 around a bit with a large trout
19:16:00 <Owen> Connex only has the lease on the network.
19:16:00 <Owen> Its actually owned by VicTrack
19:16:00 <Matty^^> correct Owen
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19:16:00 <Bellatrix> ^5 Owen
19:16:00 <River> Who pays for the mainteance?
19:16:00 <Matty^^> victrack are assholes to work with
19:17:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> ^5 muthafucker
19:17:00 <Owen> River: The state government, indirectly.
19:17:00 <River> hmm, so the government give money to victracks who give it to connex
19:17:00 <River> is that what u are saying
19:17:00 <Aar0n> man, I thought everyone new there are 2 sets of funding for rail networks in each state
19:17:00 <Aar0n> go figure
19:17:00 <Owen> the state government gives the money to V/Line or Connex, who in turn pay for the maint.
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19:18:00 <Matty^^> the person who is leasing the line off victrack has to keep up the maintance
19:18:00 <Bellatrix> who cares?
19:18:00 <Owen> and the federal government gives it to ARTC
19:18:00 <Owen> to maintain the national rail network
19:18:00 <Glenn> Ah.. the rail network. As I recall, 850million dollars was spent on the local rail line... which improved the travel time to Melbourne by just six (6) minutes! The 1.3billion dollars spent on the MYKI would have easily covered to cost of the entire same system enjoyed in Hong Kong and China, where trains and public transport actually works!
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19:18:00 * Lish zzzz
19:18:00 <Owen> 6 minutes? on what line?
19:18:00 <Shado> lol @ myki system
19:19:00 <Glenn> Traralgon
19:19:00 <Shado> why not just use the smartrider system they have in perth
19:19:00 <Owen> it knocked around 30 minuts on the expres runs from geelong
19:19:00 <Shado> it works
19:19:00 <Shado> im sure it didnt cost them this much
19:19:00 <Owen> and traralgon, pfft
19:19:00 <Owen> it knocked 12 minutes on Traralgon - Pakenham
19:19:00 <PEAKER-CHU> shado
19:19:00 <Aar0n> lol @ fail !
19:19:00 <PEAKER-CHU> KNEES.
19:19:00 <Owen> the rest is hardly v/lines problem
19:19:00 <Owen> also, that was basically maintenance
19:19:00 <Owen> not an upgrade
19:19:00 <Shado> fuck off bogan wog
19:19:00 <Aar0n> man the trains on flinders st. station the hurstbridge/epping lines always get there 5+ mins early
19:19:00 <PEAKER-CHU> LOL
19:19:00 <Owen> we hadn't done any maintenance on the railways in years.
19:20:00 <PEAKER-CHU> bogan wog
19:20:00 <PEAKER-CHU> rofl
19:20:00 <Shado> :)
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19:20:00 <Glenn> No... just the unions. They don't like working on hot days, cold days, wet days... or even on nice sunny days. After that, anythe pathetic excuse can be used to put a train out of service.
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19:20:00 <Owen> Glenn: you've no idea what you're on about, do you?
19:21:00 <Owen> You're just talking to make noise, right?
19:21:00 <Bellatrix> Glenn, do you rely on the public transport system?
19:21:00 <Bellatrix> and same with you Owen
19:21:00 <Bellatrix> :P
19:21:00 <Glenn> Not a chance... not in this country!
19:21:00 <Owen> I rely on it :P
19:21:00 <Bellatrix> well why bother discussing it?
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19:21:00 <Owen> I don't catch it, but I rely on it :)
19:21:00 <Bellatrix> if you dont use it you have no right to argue about it....
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19:22:00 <Owen> Oh, is that right?
19:22:00 <Bellatrix> cause clearly you have no idea how bad it is :P
19:22:00 <Bellatrix> you may have heard about it but fuck
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19:22:00 <Bellatrix> try getting on a train at peak times
19:22:00 <Owen> I probably have more to do with trains than you ever will, but fair enough.
19:22:00 <Glenn> As a tax payer... I have every right!
19:22:00 <Bellatrix> Owen, if you work in that system thats a valid point... and i forgo my last comment
19:22:00 <Bellatrix> hahahahahah Glenn
19:22:00 <Owen> Public Transport pays my taxes :P
19:22:00 <Bellatrix> so what as a tax payer you have a right to abuse a police officer too because y ou pay their wages?
19:23:00 * red`fever rides his train into Bellatrix's tunnel
19:23:00 <Glenn> I have no reason to abuse a Police officer.
19:23:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> like to see them try Bellatrix
19:23:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> lol
19:23:00 * Bellatrix tells red`fever to get out as he does not have a ticket :P
19:23:00 <Bellatrix> me too WiLd_TuRkeY, would be quite funny :P
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19:24:00 * Bellatrix rubs her belly :(
19:24:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> thats so old that line 'i pay your wages thru my taxes'
19:24:00 * tE[m]tN` yawns
19:24:00 * WiLd_TuRkeY moens
19:24:00 <Owen> since you pay my wages
19:24:00 <Owen> can i get a pay rise?
19:24:00 <Bellatrix> ahhh so much pain
19:25:00 <Bellatrix> you indirectly pay mine too, so im with Owen
19:25:00 <Bellatrix> :P
19:25:00 <Bellatrix> + you all
19:25:00 <Bellatrix> i want a pay rise
19:25:00 * WiLd_TuRkeY arents paying sht
19:25:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> :)
19:25:00 <Bellatrix> pfft
19:25:00 <Bellatrix> well then, if you ever find yourself homeless WiLd_TuRkeY dont come seeking help from me :P
19:25:00 <Aar0n> looooooollllllllllllllll @ River left the channel after getting owned like the bitch he is
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19:26:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> yer
19:26:00 <Bellatrix> didnt even notice that
19:26:00 <Aar0n> Pure GOLD
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19:26:00 <Bellatrix> mmmm...
19:26:00 <Bellatrix> i wanna learn to play the piano
19:27:00 <WiLd_TuRkeY> the piano can be nice
19:27:00 <Aar0n> just proves River is a try hard poser that knows nothing
19:27:00 <Shado> did someone say payrise?
19:27:00 <Shado> :D