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02:02:32 <MrMobodies> Steve30, just found this in the newspaper
02:03:31 <MrMobodies> https://inews.co.uk/opinion/reform-right-benefits-our-economy-without-action-4711664?
02:03:31 <EEVBot> [url] Reform is right about our benefits bill - our economy will collapse without action | inews.co.uk
02:04:42 <MrMobodies> Now I had a careers case worker from a charity, who was forced to leave as they cut her daughter's respite care and she had to claim carer's allowances and look after her herself. I missed 3 opportunities when she cancelled. in 2023
02:05:01 <MrMobodies> then they cut funding to the charity and had to close down branch she worked at
02:05:25 <MrMobodies> No wikipedia artice about that author: Rupert Yorke, but the way he speaks
02:05:37 <MrMobodies> Nothing on Google, but duckduckgo
02:05:39 <MrMobodies> https://timemags.co.uk/rupert-yorke/
02:05:39 <EEVBot> [url] Rupert Yorke: Career, Background, Family, And Influence In British Media | timemags.co.uk
02:05:57 <MrMobodies> "Rupert Yorke was born into a family steeped in academia and public service, offering him a privileged yet grounded upbringing. Raised in southern England, he attended one of the country’s top independent schools before earning a place at the University of Oxford, where he studied History. "
02:07:51 <MrMobodies> and apparently he has been working in the previous government
02:08:22 <MrMobodies> I find that out of touch. What do you think?
02:09:04 <MrMobodies> aaah "24 Oct 2022 — Rupert Yorke. A long-standing Conservative special adviser, "
02:09:15 <MrMobodies> He speaks like he an ordinary citizen in that newspaper
02:10:26 <MrMobodies> Very disappointed they chose someone like that their opinions appearing to be an ordindary average citizen when they're not.
02:11:47 <MrMobodies> Looking forward for this which was suppose to arrive today but hasn't
02:11:48 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/127438680271
02:11:48 <EEVBot> [url] Error Page | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
02:12:01 <MrMobodies> has Openwrt on it
02:12:58 <MrMobodies> be interesting to see how it'd perform with multiple ssids and vlans for testing
02:50:02 <MrMobodies> According to his Linkedin Profile he worked for government from 2012, wolf in sheeps clothing.
02:50:35 <MrMobodies> as an advisor and policy
02:51:28 <MrMobodies> It'd be sincere if they say who these people are like with other articles
03:16:41 <flyback> any reason a "led" class power supply can't be used for other stuff
03:16:58 <flyback> I got a bunch of these 120vac to 24dc psu's for $0.50 at yinzbinz 400watt
03:17:17 <flyback> and I have 3 24 to 12v smps modules then I can feed a inverter
03:17:25 <flyback> actually I think some of my inverters will take 24v
03:18:13 <flyback> man I miss being able to ask questions on libera's ##electronics
03:18:17 <Kuschelpony> flyback, two potential issues:
03:18:19 <flyback> that was a way more active channel
03:18:22 <flyback> go on
03:19:37 <Kuschelpony> one might be they have not used rf filtering and similar, you might see some small note saying "max 50cm wire lenghth"
03:19:44 <flyback> I got klined from libera for 2 months for "threatening to dox someone" when in reality his name was in /whois nickname and I googled his name and found a web page from a former freenode/libera staff member who stalked him
03:19:55 <flyback> oh ok
03:20:11 <flyback> im converting some of my genrator's output to dc then inverting it to smooth it out
03:20:27 <Kuschelpony> the other is the regulation loop might be very slow and cant handle transient loads (other than maybe somespecific dimmers)
03:20:41 <flyback> I wanted to use a nice dell 700 watt server grade psu from delta, it is like 75amps at 12v
03:21:06 <flyback> however apprentely afpc psu's can interact with generators with simple capacitor based regulation systems
03:21:23 <Kuschelpony> hmmm long ago i was in some furry channels on Liberachat, but left that because the specific kinds of furries there were a specific kind of weird
03:21:24 <flyback> Kuschelpony, ok
03:21:39 <flyback> guess I will use another psu
03:21:59 <flyback> I have a 60 watt meanwell that doesn't have active pfc
03:22:06 <flyback> but I would like to have more wattage
03:22:08 <flyback> although
03:22:20 <flyback> my computers and laptops are fine directely on gen output
03:22:36 <flyback> but led lights throw a spaz and I don't want to take a chance with my comcast router/modem unit
03:22:56 <Kuschelpony> i dont want to discourage you, yust wanted to point out where squeezing out every cent of a design purely designed for LED lamps might make it less versatile
03:23:15 <flyback> no I trust what you say
03:23:59 <flyback> the only issue with the led psu's and meanwell is they are unwired and I am quite nervous about wiring up mains cause I suck at wire splicing etc
03:24:08 <flyback> plus what you said
03:25:48 <flyback> https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulated-Switching-Transformer-Converter/dp/B0DQWQFG16/ref=pd_day0_d_sccl_1_4/140-9144705-1511719?pd_rd_w=KER7R&content-id=amzn1.sym.de286d99-05f6-43bf-9d9c-b57de9652232&pf_rd_p=de286d99-05f6-43bf-9d9c-b57de9652232&pf_rd_r=Q9DXMSW3HPPTDZXHEVJ2&pd_rd_wg=OLcOv&pd_rd_r=cabdfe42-3e34-4021-9620-e682001b8e7d&pd_rd_i=B0CP4X6WF9&th=1
03:25:48 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com | www.amazon.com
03:25:51 <flyback> found it
03:25:52 <flyback> heh
03:25:57 <flyback> don't like not having a brand to google
03:26:34 <Kuschelpony> i really suggest you get a few packs of Wago 221
03:27:51 <flyback> neat
03:28:18 <flyback> they sell them locally in fact
03:30:20 <Kuschelpony> i can not adequately translate all into english to be a guide for you, but basically said there is nothing to worry about mains wiring if you follow some basic things
03:30:32 <K> hello Kuschelpony flyback
03:30:42 <Kuschelpony> make sure cables are secured to not easily riped out
03:30:46 <Kuschelpony> also hello K
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03:52:27 <flyback> oh neat
03:52:58 <flyback> this circuit board I got for 50 cents at yinzbinz is a bluetooth mono receiver amp with also usb mp3 playback and aux audio input
03:53:12 <flyback> youcontrol the mp3 player by the way you press the volume button
03:53:13 <flyback> heh
03:53:18 <flyback> crude but I guess it works
03:58:38 <flyback> I also for a fm radio/bt car radio unit
03:58:48 <flyback> I think it does mp3 also
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08:51:20 <steve30> I still haven't got used to Windows 7's new-fangled Start Menu.
08:57:20 <DogWomble> sometimes i wish i could revert it to Windows 3.1's Program Manager :P
08:59:47 <MrMobodies> Can someone recommend good quality PWM fan controller for a 1.30a 12v fan?
09:00:07 <flyback> no but there's a Canuckload of them on ebay etc
09:00:13 <flyback> or you can make one with a 555
09:00:14 <MrMobodies> I have some but they are only 6w max
09:00:17 <flyback> how many pins does it have
09:00:17 <MrMobodies> ooooh
09:00:31 <MrMobodies> Okay, so fine a 555 controller
09:00:35 <flyback> well just wait
09:00:40 <flyback> how many wires does it have
09:00:53 <flyback> 2 3 or 4
09:00:57 <MrMobodies> red and black but it does have others for the mb sensors
09:01:13 <MrMobodies> 4 wires came out of a Dell
09:01:16 <flyback> well there's 2 extra wires one is rpm sense and the other is pwm input
09:01:28 <flyback> if you h ave pwm input you only need a 555 to provide a reference pwm signal
09:01:53 <flyback> if you only have 2 or 3 pin fan then you pwm has to carry the power to the fan so you need a more complex circuit with a power ****
09:01:56 <flyback> Tranny
09:02:24 <MrMobodies> It's a NMB MAT 7 4715KL-04W-B56
09:02:56 <MrMobodies> I couldn't find much about what they do exactly but tha would be great if they turn out to do that
09:05:58 <flyback> NMB owns your "Canuck"
09:06:03 * flyback bombs nothing's house
09:06:39 <flyback> hmm according to google it's a 4 wire fan
09:07:06 <flyback> btw be careful
09:07:27 <flyback> some of those high power nmb's on servers etc will gash you good and shatter the blades in the process
09:08:25 <arch> flyback, gtfo. don't buy electrical shit off scamazon. pony up the $10 extra and get a MeanWell from digikey. these cheapo junk will burn down your house
09:09:16 <flyback> I did get a 60w meanwell for $0.50 at yinzbinz
09:09:21 <MrMobodies> I remember once in 2013 put this zalman fan on a Dell p4 motherboard. I remember the pins were not the same, so change the pins over and it worked, 2 days the fan started to smoke.
09:09:28 <flyback> and I only am going to use it with my generator anyways so i would be there
09:09:30 <flyback> no fire risk
09:09:57 <flyback> sounds like you missed the ground or something and it was bleeding power thru a rpm signal or something pin
09:10:11 <MrMobodies> I was got hurt by one of those blower fans that came out of a server
09:10:19 <flyback> yeah they smart
09:10:26 <flyback> I have bleed for a long time before
09:10:35 <MrMobodies> BFB1012H
09:11:17 <MrMobodies> Very useful for cooling things on the desk
09:11:29 <MrMobodies> I brought a whole load of them in 2012 for £4 each
09:12:30 <flyback> nice
09:12:46 <flyback> oh yeah muffin
09:12:48 <flyback> I got a bunch
09:13:32 <flyback> another advatage of the pwm 4 wire fans besides the fact you only h ave to supply a pwm signal with no power behind it is, accurate rpm reporting
09:13:48 <flyback> with 3 wire fans since you pwm the power wire, it Canucks the rpm meaSUREMENT
09:14:54 <MrMobodies> oh great
09:19:34 <flyback> what's this for anyways
09:20:13 <flyback> example
09:20:14 <flyback> https://www.nomad.ee/micros/pwm555.shtml
09:20:22 <flyback> but you can find them for a few bucks so almost no reason to make your own
09:20:54 <flyback> <MrMobodies> I have some but they are only 6w max
09:21:14 <flyback> you know you could add a pass transistor to the 6w module to make it more
09:23:48 <MrMobodies> thanks for that
09:25:02 <flyback> you basically get a high watt transistor and wire it to the same 12v as the pwm module but you use the pwm module to drive it's base or gate pin
09:25:08 <flyback> ask these guys how to do that I dunno
09:25:23 <flyback> but mb's used to use linear regs and they would add a pass transistor to allow more amps
09:27:49 <MrMobodies> Power the fan and PWM from the same supply, and then connet the PWM signal to one of the cables on the fan
09:29:05 <MrMobodies> thanks for that
09:29:20 <MrMobodies> if I can get that going that'd be great
09:29:21 <flyback> ask these guys now to do it
09:29:27 <flyback> I don't know how for sure
09:29:45 <flyback> basically you have power going to the pwm module and power going to the pass transistor
09:29:55 <flyback> the pass transistor supplies the power to the fan
09:30:09 <flyback> and the pwm module controls the pass transistor base/gate
09:30:19 <MrMobodies> okay well if I can get that going at some point that's be good
09:30:28 <MrMobodies> I want to put it in this vending machine at the local pub
09:30:35 <flyback> cool
09:31:14 <MrMobodies> the barman want's to put some ice at the bottom in hot weather and was think that fan would be great to cool the sweets down if it can be controlled
09:31:29 <MrMobodies> well this jug of ice
09:32:08 <flyback> use a good double ball bearing fan or a hydro bearing fan or maglev fan
09:32:19 <flyback> don't use a 1 ball 1 sleeve or sleeve bearing fan
09:32:35 <MrMobodies> oh yes, I got many of them, and definately ball bearings ones
09:32:45 <flyback> well no
09:32:51 <MrMobodies> a Thermaltake ball bearing the orange ones
09:32:53 <flyback> it if just says ball bearing many times it's 1 ball 1 sleeve
09:33:22 <MrMobodies> I know some said about, 2 ball bearings, one ball and one sleeave and one sleeve
09:33:32 <MrMobodies> aaa
09:33:37 <flyback> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/30737/transistors-and-pwm
09:33:37 <EEVBot> [url] Just a moment... | electronics.stackexchange.com
09:34:42 <MrMobodies> now that is useful
09:34:42 <MrMobodies> https://i.sstatic.net/rSeVt.png
09:34:42 <EEVBot> [url] Just a moment... | i.sstatic.net
09:34:43 <MrMobodies> thanks
09:35:09 <flyback> diode is important
09:35:20 <flyback> but it's any cheap silicon diode you can find at the bottom of your shoe
09:35:21 <MrMobodies> the D1
09:35:22 <flyback> :P
09:35:30 <MrMobodies> what could happen with one?
09:36:19 <flyback> well any time you switch a manetic device on/off you get a reverse voltage back pulse that will keep building till it shoves up the transistor's asshole
09:36:20 <MrMobodies> anyway that looks easy enough to put together
09:36:30 <flyback> the diode just shorts that to ground
09:36:36 <MrMobodies> oh I see
09:36:41 <flyback> imagine it this way
09:36:44 <flyback> take a 1 ton safe
09:36:49 <flyback> balance it on a 30 foot pole
09:36:57 <flyback> stand under it and saw the pole
09:36:58 <flyback> get it
09:37:35 <flyback> this is a common mistake first tome digital electronics people make
09:37:49 <flyback> and they get an arduino turning a motor or relay on and off
09:37:57 <flyback> and a f ew mins later the chip gets really hot and dies
09:38:36 <flyback> I don't think dc brushless fans like pc fans have back emf cause it's eaten by the fan controller ic in the fan
09:38:43 <flyback> but if they recommend a diode I would do it
09:38:50 <MrMobodies> okay
09:38:54 <flyback> you can use the worse quality diode you can find
09:38:58 <flyback> as long as it's a power diode
11:07:19 <MrMobodies> Look how SCUMMY B&Q, must hated store treat's and deludes it's customers with "GREAT LOW PRICES".
11:07:26 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/CMwdR5Nk/B-Q-Low-Price-Gouging.jpg
11:08:22 <MrMobodies> 2018: a small bracket selling in a local shop 10x 42p each. Same EXACT bracket £4+_ each.
11:11:54 <MrMobodies> I rememeber my dad buying big name brands even at sensible prices as everywhere elses decades ago but as soon as I see written on "exclusive to B&Q" and there were problems. Like the wall paper paste wouldn't bond. He brought a different one from a different place the next day and it went up lovelly. The day before he kept on trying to put the ones that fell down back upp.
11:12:04 <MrMobodies> and the amount of paper wasted
11:14:21 <MrMobodies> Brought a blind in 2000, the string bit cracked the plastic and it snapped eventually after a year of hardly any use. In 2004 Shower screen for a bathtub and the water goes right through the seals. After sturdier blind and the string snaps.
11:15:59 <MrMobodies> oh in 2001 a Grundfoss 2001 central heating pump for £19 the cheapest he found. I was angry at him for the cheapeness. It worked but there were lots of problems. Neighbour the road replaced it with exactly the same pump but the engraving, or arrows put round the wrong way.
11:16:24 <MrMobodies> that was in 2008 and for the first time I had central heating in the attic
11:17:15 <MrMobodies> that fooled so many plumbers who couldn't understand it was not pumping water to the attic radiators with the arrow round the wrong way.
11:17:30 <MrMobodies> lots of money wasted on oil radaitors up there all
11:18:32 <MrMobodies> crap pissant 150w small garden flood light from B&Q he got that communicates with morse code, instead of the 500w one he pulled out with settings on it.
11:19:42 <MrMobodies> and a "Roya Doultan" sink with cheap paint and a very low tap that splatters water everywere in 2000
11:21:04 <MrMobodies> Anyone else here in England hard done by and ripped off by B&Q?
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11:58:05 <Nothing\> well i dunno what i did to my pinky when i fell but you'd swear it was dislocated even after xrays and physically feeling that the point and bones are normal feeling
11:58:18 <Nothing\> and yet, it's crooked like 20 degrees to the right
11:58:27 <Nothing\> and twisted maybe 10
11:58:56 <Nothing\> it still bends, i'm even typing with it. litte to no pain. lol the damndest thing
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15:14:00 <MrMobodies> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c141dn3d26do
15:14:00 <EEVBot> [url] Rotherham patients say AI GP receptionist can't understand them - BBC News | www.bbc.co.uk
15:14:25 <MrMobodies> This bit: "However, she said the EMMA system meant calls were navigated more swiftly."
15:14:44 <MrMobodies> If that is TRUE then why does that article even exist with patients unable to SWIFTLY get through.
15:16:09 <MrMobodies> I read article's of the reception team referring patients back to the phone to speak to this AI that can't understand certain dialects.
15:16:47 <MrMobodies> as a medical service where things can't always wait, they shouldn't need that crap
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15:58:32 <steve30> MrMobodies, give it a go, dial 01709 364990
15:59:07 <steve30> and give it some fake information like say you want a Rx or a sick note and make up a date of birth, and see if it understand you
15:59:19 <steve30> (don't pursue it though as that's an actual clinic number)
16:11:15 <DogWomble> after that, ring 0118 999 881 999 119 725 ..... 3
16:11:53 <steve30> Fortunately that is a valid number on my telco so can be used to amuse yourself :)
16:12:50 <DogWomble> apparently back in the 80s, phone providers had a bit of a problem with the number 8675309
16:13:12 <DogWomble> it was a valid number, and people kept on rining it asking for Jenny
16:15:09 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mtCHdBJcgw
16:15:09 <EEVBot> Temporary error talking to YouTube: [SYS] unknown error (_ssl.c:2638)
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16:17:41 <steve30> I wonder if the fire brigade would have an App nowadays
16:18:12 <steve30> Maybe the app could automatically detect the type of fire and determine the correct response.
16:18:48 <DogWomble> ChatGoPutThefireout?
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22:13:40 <electrohead> !caffeine
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22:48:22 <rc-garage> where?
23:55:55 <MrMobodies> Oh look he SACKED his whistleblower
23:55:57 <MrMobodies> Oh look, he SACKED his whistleblower https://www.latestly.com/sports/football/fifa-president-gianni-infantino-suffers-fresh-blow-as-israel-football-association-withdraws-support-7567179.html
23:55:58 <EEVBot> [url] ERROR: The request could not be satisfied | www.latestly.com
23:56:04 <MrMobodies> oops
23:56:28 <MrMobodies> now other associations have pulled out or not supporting him
23:56:45 <MrMobodies> Did he not see that happening for sacking people
23:57:24 <MrMobodies> Bet that was a one man project too into going ater whistleblowers
23:58:33 <MrMobodies> Sarcasm: what a great way to build up even more loyalty
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