// #eevblog — 2025-10-22
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00:44:55 <electrohead> flyback: what's the deal with realterm? asking because I see it's a paid thing, what does it do that other programs don't?
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01:41:34 <flyback> realterm is not paid
01:42:02 <flyback> it does advanced scripting, logging, does bin, octal, hex other serial comm forms
01:42:36 <flyback> im almost playing with serialtool which is paid and freee and not liking it
01:42:41 <flyback> and ninjaterm which is free
01:43:57 <flyback> biggest beef with serialtool is it doesn't like small screnen laptops and won't resize
01:44:06 <flyback> also stupid nagware screen on runtime
01:44:18 <flyback> and they don't really mention all the limitations in the free version upfront
01:44:36 <flyback> downside to realterm was it needed windows and devel has died
01:44:53 <flyback> ninjaterm dunno if any problems yet
01:45:09 <flyback> minicom - fucks up and will sit with a blank screen when the baud is off, also it only does ascii
01:47:43 <flyback> if you have very standard ascii serial port, then minicom can be fine
01:48:07 <flyback> but there's times probing devices for hidden uarts and also devices that don't output ascii that you need something else
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02:28:13 <flyback> probably for refurbing a bunch of seagate hard drives by acccessing the hidden uart off the jumper block, I can use minicom but other stuff not so much
02:42:19 <electrohead> ahh my bad, I think I was thinking of another serial program?
02:42:31 <electrohead> (my brain is a jumbled mush of everything, anymore)
02:42:48 <electrohead> ahh yes, serialtool, that's the one
02:43:26 <electrohead> 99% of the time I just use screen, never had let me down yet lol
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03:35:36 <flyback> screen, etc are fine if you have standard serial parameters and it's standard ascii coms
03:35:56 <flyback> but I like having the option to support oddball stuff
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07:22:37 <arch> ur an oddball
07:29:03 <rust_collector> yo
08:08:39 <steve30> o/
08:30:46 <Vampera> arch, btw
08:47:29 * steve30 nibbles on Vampera with kitty fangs
08:48:16 <Vampera> aww
08:48:29 * Vampera sinks her vampire fangs lovingly into steve30
08:49:17 <steve30> my Quadro graphics card seems to be attracting a lot of dust
09:00:29 * steve30 is rearranging the disk drives in his computer again
09:00:44 <steve30> i think i need an extra sata cablle
09:17:46 <flyback> m$ released emergency update KB5070773 for their breakage of usb keyboard and mice when in win11 recovery mode. Install it now before you have a problem
09:19:48 * steve30 purrs at his Winblows 7 Thinkpad :p
09:20:04 <steve30> none of that winblows 11 rubbish here :)
09:22:12 <flyback> well I have one less windows box, this core2duo laptop now runs linux I got realterm working in wine
09:22:23 <flyback> plus found a few linux serial tools
09:27:13 <arch> does anyone remember reading a pcb carving guide on hackaday? it was a while ago, but i cant find it. the guy made an astable multivibrator with transistors and two leds
09:31:44 <steve30> i'm pleased to say a 2.5" SSD shoves in nicely on top of my blu ray drive in my Shuttle XPC
09:32:59 <steve30> So my Shuttle now contains 1x Blu Ray RW, 2x 2.5" SATA HDD, 1x NVME SSD, 1x SATA SSD, 1x Graphics Card, 1x SAS card (for external tape drive)
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12:40:46 <electrohead> WRX is back home \m/
13:22:40 <steve30000> o/
13:47:44 <electrohead> oi!
13:49:49 <steve30000> i was just watching a documentary about AI
13:50:01 <steve30000> looks like its going to take all our jobs
14:42:12 <MrMobodies> talking of that
14:42:14 <MrMobodies> TRIAGE
14:42:15 <MrMobodies> https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1edz9ai/receptionist_at_gp_will_not_make_appointment/
14:42:37 <MrMobodies> "oh you want be happy if you turn up and see the wrong person etc..." BULLSH*T
14:43:01 <MrMobodies> before I moved, the receptionist had COMMON SENSE, so did the nurse and doctor.
14:43:33 <MrMobodies> The receptionist sometimes you to divert the call to the doctor on the phone.
14:43:42 <MrMobodies> or book you in that was it
14:43:57 <MrMobodies> there wasn't a person for this and tat
14:44:08 <MrMobodies> that was all organised by the doctor
14:44:21 <MrMobodies> they sound to me very brainless
14:44:42 <MrMobodies> on that reddit thread "oh we use that, just to know where to send you..."
14:45:21 <steve30000> MrMobodies, I've been waiting over 3 weeks now for someone to telephone me back wrt making a doctor appointment
14:45:48 <MrMobodies> my mum made a complain, the nurse on the phone said to my mum as I passed it back "he doesn't sound like he's got a cold" when I could be clearly heard coughing and struggling to talk in early 2013 with the chest infection.
14:45:51 <steve30000> 2 of those weeks were spent waiting because they couldn't get my telephone number right
14:46:24 <MrMobodies> if anything happens to you as a result of being made to wait I can't imagine their excuse
14:46:43 <electrohead> steve30000: da durka durr!
14:47:20 <MrMobodies> A rough ignorant East London accent lady "oh but WE're just USING the ssssssyyyystem... nothing to do with us... not our fault..."
14:48:14 <steve30000> 4 weeks actually
14:48:22 <MrMobodies> Steve3000 black american history
14:48:34 <MrMobodies> when the black people got on the bus to pay at the front
14:48:38 <MrMobodies> but told to go around the back
14:48:40 <MrMobodies> then the bus drives off
14:49:00 <MrMobodies> that's them getting the wrong phone number when the bus drives off
14:50:07 <MrMobodies> they should sack all these USELESS people and put things back to where they were
14:50:48 <MrMobodies> Doctor, nurses, some receptions, a phsio therapist
14:50:58 <MrMobodies> in the local practices
14:52:02 <MrMobodies> but I'd expect the doctor to read my notes
14:53:44 <MrMobodies> practice managers, center manager, physician associate, never had one of those back at my old address
14:53:52 <MrMobodies> and the family doctor managed just fine
14:55:10 <MrMobodies> there is one good family doctor at my practice but only see's his patients and is not seeing anyone else. Quite a few left there
14:55:17 <MrMobodies> I heard of him at the pub
14:56:01 <MrMobodies> soemone's Ventolin inhaler was switched to the Salamol by the asthma nurse without even doing a test or review
14:56:36 <MrMobodies> they booked an appointment with him, he did some tests on how they were using it and just switched it back to ventolin
14:57:01 <MrMobodies> that would have never happened at my previous surgery not wihtout the doctor's say so
14:57:36 <MrMobodies> Steve30 I hope it is nothing serious such as a chest infection.
15:01:56 <MrMobodies> I see this crap started in 2019 about 8 months before Covid was announced
15:01:59 <MrMobodies> https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3637142-To-let-you-know-that-youre-not-doing-yourself-any-favours-by-refusing-to-tell-the-GP-receptionist-your-symptoms
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15:02:28 <steve30000> some doctors have been doing it for donkeys years
15:02:37 <steve30000> but its been rolled out quite a lot recently
15:02:38 <MrMobodies> oh
15:03:43 <MrMobodies> it was started at the Jenner Center in 2023 where they said they were "triaging me" and felt I didn't need to see a doctor and didn't have a cold according to their "systems" to which me and my mum made a complaint.
15:04:11 <MrMobodies> completely unecessary
15:04:41 <steve30000> the issue with having to wait for someone to telephone is the amount of time it takes.
15:05:10 <MrMobodies> like the old walk in GP's
15:05:19 <steve30000> If you take three days off work to wait in for the secretary to call to arrange an appointment, at national minimum wage, you'd lose probably £200+ in lost earnings.
15:05:28 <MrMobodies> can very long to see a doctor but you know you will see one
15:05:57 <MrMobodies> a piss poor service
15:05:58 <steve30000> So if would be far cheaper just to see a private GP.
15:06:02 <MrMobodies> to what it once was
15:06:53 <MrMobodies> I wonder if they "TRIAGE" patients when they go privately I bet now which could be like discrimination.
15:07:06 <MrMobodies> oops not now I mean *not
15:07:39 <MrMobodies> my previous doctors use to get very full atimes, like a 2 or 3 week wait
15:07:51 <steve30000> well private GPs want your business, but they also have enough appointments that you can just book within a few days (or walk in)
15:08:06 <MrMobodies> but if I plead with the receptions for things that have become worse they do bump up the list
15:08:22 <MrMobodies> "walk in"
15:08:45 <MrMobodies> "walk in" removed from ordinary surgeries and placed in private
15:11:17 <MrMobodies> I mean they don't need to call it "Triage" and have a "system" for it
15:12:13 <MrMobodies> it's prioritzing the urgency if they had a bit more information and blooming common sense but they seem to lack that, so they need "the sssyyysttem" decide for them.
15:13:29 <MrMobodies> if it goes wrong they'd blame "the system", "oh we're just using the sssyyystemm" in that rough East London accent ladies voice.
15:16:48 <MrMobodies> A bit devastated
15:17:05 <MrMobodies> the Violin mad but some HP T720's I think
15:17:12 <MrMobodies> put a quad port in there to run pfsense
15:18:05 <MrMobodies> I thought initially it was the buffers being exhausted, a problem I had before not it didn't hang and cause kernel panic " Panic String: spin lock held too long"
15:18:48 <MrMobodies> I read it is an issue with the power saving which can't easily be adjusted
15:19:24 <MrMobodies> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240944
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15:20:27 <MrMobodies> ordered a I350 quad port, I read in other threads that it was okay
15:20:35 <MrMobodies> for £20 on ebay
15:21:21 <MrMobodies> when it was working it's seemed really good, but it'd randomly hang
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17:33:44 <watcher> Hello
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17:53:48 <patrick> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble with a recently bought BM235 multimeter (screen distortion) and was hoping if someone could confirm a build issue?
18:00:54 <Halcyon> patrick, is this an EEVblog multimeter?
18:05:37 <patrick> nope, original Brymen. I was just looking for someone with the same model number to compare the frame of the LCD
18:06:28 <patrick> the problem i have with mine is that something seems to put mechanical stress on the display whihc results in distortion when the multimeter heats up in sunlight
18:06:44 <patrick> look like this: https://imgur.com/a/eqojKVe
18:07:49 <steve30000> hi Halcyon
18:11:51 <patrick> my question is: with mine, there is small air gap between the frame and the display underthe brymen logo (you can feel a slight bump, running your finger across the logo). It seems like this would create a pressure point. I was wondering if OK BM235 meters have that gap as well.
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20:50:45 <Vampera> hi Halcyon
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