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07:35 <arch> electrohead, i have just discovered Korn
08:24 <arch> https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/renandstimpy/images/f/f9/Screenshot_2019-03-28_at_10.46.47_AM.png
34:05 * Vampera korns arch
37:53 <arch> \m/
47:45 <K> arch you corny boy
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40:19 * steve30 is tired
09:02 * arch stuffs steve30 into a tire and rolls him down a steep hill
11:13 * steve30 is tyred
11:23 <arch> !rimshot
11:24 <EEVBot> ba dum tss!
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47:40 <MrMobodies> Hello
47:57 <MrMobodies> The Violin man is getting gigabit broadband on Thursday
48:15 <MrMobodies> and tomorrow is VOIP thing has been arranged with an SP122 he had 5 years ago
48:31 <MrMobodies> and i gave him one of these lovely basic phones with prints that never wear off
49:06 <MrMobodies> https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81aeaPN2sgL.jpg
49:35 <MrMobodies> he is getting rid of his BT broadband and that YeaLink thing keeps on stopping.
50:02 <MrMobodies> I know it's fairly basic, but I have one with an Spa122 and rarely it stops
50:27 <MrMobodies> the most important thing it manages the basic
51:08 <MrMobodies> rechargeable AA batteries in there, not some obscure hard to find Lithium one
52:07 <MrMobodies> I threw away some good handsets in 2011 because of that. They had these tiny 200mah things and could not find that type selling.
54:07 <MrMobodies> well they were givem to me but didn't have much runtime let and can't remembr the name
07:03 <Kuschelpony> https://files.sueden.social/cache/media_attachments/files/115/374/080/395/609/947/original/f72798d78e7b1922.jpg
09:33 <MrMobodies> The link above, is that a joke directed at Vampera?
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35:14 * electrohead butters arch 
35:33 <Kuschelpony> no, its an independ joke
35:36 <MrMobodies> At a college once during an MCSA course someone said to the teacher that page 404 from his book was missing and that he could find it. The books were rather thick but the teacher took about 10 minutes to get the joke.
36:17 <MrMobodies> the teacher found the page of course by which time the joke was up.
36:58 <MrMobodies> as part of the course the books turned up and he complained a page was missing out his.
37:49 <MrMobodies> the fact the teacher went over to his desk and turned the page to 404 to find it was there.
38:48 <MrMobodies> That was a good laugh that one. I could see many of them snigger and the teacher not paying attention to the sniggering when he went over to find out.
39:02 <MrMobodies> to see something was up and that it was a joke
43:20 <MrMobodies> I will reset the Samsung tablet to restore some framework to make other things work, now I know what rocks the scum malware hides under
43:27 <MrMobodies> but at the moment I am enjoying it
43:45 <MrMobodies> and I mean for things like this:
45:11 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/1RWh1Bx0/image.png
45:11 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
45:23 <MrMobodies> use to display things via remote desktop
45:41 <MrMobodies> and with the high resolution it seems to do that well
47:28 <MrMobodies> Logview (2006) datalogger for these two batteries chargers via serial port
47:30 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/pd04MV7S/image.png
47:30 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
48:12 <MrMobodies> I don't have to open and minimize thing, I could just watch the graphs and tables
49:27 <MrMobodies> and no more interference, harassment and psychological torment from Samsung or Google over their spammy notifications
50:54 <MrMobodies> that'd work great with that case during the disco's to either control the lights or display the disco current request lists or even act as a picture frame.
51:20 <MrMobodies> if the case is knocked it flops inwards and doesn't fall over
52:04 <MrMobodies> or even a little kiosk for them to put their songs for me to find them
30:46 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
47:36 <MrMobodies> I have a question, with heat pumps.
48:01 <MrMobodies> I hear it takes a while to get the place to a set temperature
48:19 <MrMobodies> so if I have a gas boiler, and it heats the room up
48:37 <MrMobodies> does that mean the heat pump will recycle that heat theoretically?
48:51 <MrMobodies> meaning less use of the boiler
49:54 <Agripa3> Huh?
50:16 <steve30> heat pump extracts heat from outside and moves it inside (or vice versa for cooling)
50:23 <Agripa3> The heat pump moves heat from one location to another.
50:38 <Agripa3> If the inside starts out hotter, then the heat pump has less work to do to heat it further.
17:18 <MrMobodies> so in really cold weather
17:38 <MrMobodies> it would just be moving the hot air around inside the house?
17:55 <MrMobodies> without taking in any air from the outside.
21:37 <Agripa3> No, in cold weather, heat is lost through the surfaces of the house, and the heat pump pumps heat from the cold outside to the inside of the house to make up for it.
21:54 <Agripa3> With a boiler, the heat pump has to replace less heat.
32:50 <MrMobodies> Okay thanks
33:02 <MrMobodies> Well why is it, as I understand, that is UK government
33:06 <MrMobodies> is encouraging people
33:23 <MrMobodies> to DITCH their boilers and go for JUST a heat pump where they'd have no backup.
33:51 <MrMobodies> backup to give them quick heating when they need it.
34:29 <MrMobodies> something to do with funding
34:31 <MrMobodies> Let's see
36:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/heat-pumps-grant/
36:41 <EEVBot> [url] Just a moment... | www.moneysavingexpert.com
37:15 <MrMobodies> "You must be replacing an existing fossil fuel system. Such as a gas or oil boiler. You can also replace electric storage heaters and get the grant. "
37:59 <MrMobodies> No auxilary or backup (that even a Swedish firm during a documentary installed in a block of council apartments in 2016)
38:37 <MrMobodies> I mean we have an immersion heater in our hot water cyclinder as a backup if the gas boiler stops.
38:50 <MrMobodies> Now isn't that just STUPID? or am I missing something.
45:57 <MrMobodies> Noticed something with Youtube. It is not to my liking due to the player controls being larger but is a good compromise for tablet users
46:44 <MrMobodies> I was looking at all the different Madonna Like a Prayer versions to find some changes
46:52 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/QtTXNNwL/Playercontrols.jpg
46:52 <EEVBot> [url] Playercontrols — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
47:08 <MrMobodies> with Adblock and Ublock, they got rid of the HORRID dimming overlay, gradients
47:15 <MrMobodies> I didn't think they'd do this
47:23 <MrMobodies> For the first time I am actually pleased
47:44 <MrMobodies> in fullscreen the colours of the buttons invert
48:16 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/qMjdTCq7/Fullscreen.jpg
48:17 <EEVBot> [url] Fullscreen — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
48:23 <MrMobodies> Some feedback I left them in the screenshot
48:52 <MrMobodies> Isn't that nice though for a change? A player that is not so bloated.
50:08 <MrMobodies> Maybe they should do it with the App and miniplayer. Last time I saw them they were unclear and terrible.
50:43 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/KYtqmdQh/Menu.jpg
50:44 <EEVBot> [url] Menu — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
50:50 <MrMobodies> Non bloated menu from symbol at the top
51:44 <MrMobodies> that is somethind I'd expect last decade ago as a form of improvement. Function over form, not the other way around.
00:07 <steve30> It is quite normal to not have multiple heating systems. e.g. In my old house, we had gas central heating. If that broke we'd be stuck with just a gas fire in the living room.
00:09 <MrMobodies> Went into the lounge Dad looking at youtube noticed some changes on the TV too
00:26 <steve30> And here, until I had A/C installed, we had *just* gas central heating on its own
01:07 <steve30> These things are all very reliable, and people do underestimate the usefulness of putting a coat/hat on or boilling the kettle.
02:21 <steve30> MrMobodies, I noticed the new youtube UI this morning. Looks decent. Although I still miss having the controls seperate to the video.
02:26 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/RFdzZ3dc/image.png
02:27 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
02:39 <MrMobodies> Nice and BRIGHT! No horrid gradients
02:53 <MrMobodies> I went in the lougue and noticed him browsing on there
03:13 <MrMobodies> and that Panasonic television was an ex demo over 12 years old from Tucker Brothers
03:36 <MrMobodies> oooh
03:53 <MrMobodies> " Although I still miss having the controls seperate to the video." I am unaware of that
04:19 <MrMobodies> Is that something outside of the plaer?
04:21 <MrMobodies> player
04:49 <steve30> in the olden days, the controls were below the video rather than overlayed
05:26 <MrMobodies> yes and I thought for a while, they put them in a small transculent border over the player
05:33 <MrMobodies> then they switched it to a gradient in 2017
06:00 <MrMobodies> I'd like the controls away from it
07:04 <MrMobodies> but NOT having a gradient appear and darken 1/3 of the pictures over mouse hover and play/pause has GOT to tbe a lot better
07:52 <MrMobodies> olden days, around the 2010's
08:43 <MrMobodies> I don't mind the player controls initially as long as it is small, doesn't dominate or cause distraction.
09:35 <MrMobodies> but when they put the gradients, and flashing things that distract and scream for attention then I find that a turn off
10:25 <MrMobodies> also during pause no dimming overlay, an improvement or maybe a step back towards those olden days
10:52 <MrMobodies> but I'll still hide the play and stop symbol in the middle, can irritate when pausing and seeking alot
18:29 <MrMobodies> aah they changed it again
18:53 <MrMobodies> https://i.postimg.cc/vZn7F58S/image.png
18:54 <EEVBot> [url] Image — Postimages | i.postimg.cc
19:12 <MrMobodies> Looks okay too, more compact. I think they are experimenting. I think I prefer that one.
30:07 <MrMobodies> quite a few at the pub say "it's because I am old school"... not this time.
31:27 <MrMobodies> Noticed I could get that playbar smaller like before if I zoom out.
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07:10 <MrMobodies> I saw Trump today on the news in his meeting about the peace
07:26 <MrMobodies> he seemed to look a bit ill
07:48 <MrMobodies> like he didn't work well
09:52 <MrMobodies> aah I see he has been diagnoised with a vein conditon "chronic vein condition" according the BBC news in July.
10:14 <MrMobodies> lack of blood flow
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05:43 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
50:24 <MrMobodies> Utter bullsh*t
50:25 <MrMobodies> https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/inhalers-harm-planet-and-your-patients-what-do-2025a1000ro9?form=fpf
50:26 <EEVBot> [url] Just a moment... | www.medscape.com
50:55 <MrMobodies> This bit: "Imagine if you could get rid of the emissions of hundreds of thousands of cars on the road with a fairly simple solution..."
52:15 <MrMobodies> They say it like they don't care for the patient. These are people with a medical needs, they are not cars, owning and travelling by car is a choice. The ability to breath isn't.
53:37 <MrMobodies> Those things are not designed for the planet, they are designed with a certain amount of gass to keep the patient alive well and breathing then you have these people
54:27 <MrMobodies> patients who require a certain strength of medicine should not have to self regulate by what they think of the planet.
55:27 <MrMobodies> They admit they don't use propellant and with no way to propel it in an emergency it can leave the patient at risk
56:16 <MrMobodies> they seem to chery pick things and ignore other things that matter
57:09 <MrMobodies> those inhalers had been out for decades like the ICS ones but there are reasons why they don't give them out without any propellant
09:07 <K> hello lemony snickets
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59:36 <watcher> Hello Halcyon and K
59:55 <Halcyon> Hello watcher
00:18 <DogWombleTheSecond> evening :)
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24:37 <Vampera> hi Halcyon
32:43 <Halcyon> Hey Vampy
33:10 <Vampera> hi!!!
33:18 <Vampera> how are you doing Halcyon?
33:28 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
33:39 <Vampera> just waking up
34:21 <Vampera> need to go make myself a cuppa
41:55 <Halcyon> Aw nice.
44:56 * Vampera offers Halcyon a cuppa
48:12 <Halcyon> \o/
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50:28 <Halcyon> Hey ibiza
50:31 <Halcyon> How's it going?
50:45 * Vampera sneezes
50:57 <Vampera> I hate AI scrape bots
51:07 <ibiza> same old mate
51:11 <Vampera> I block one ASN and my server load goes from maxing 16 cores to almost nothing
51:11 <ibiza> nothing bloddy new
51:12 <Halcyon> What are they doing Vampera ?
51:30 <Vampera> it's all tencent cloud or huawei cloud or alibaba cloud :/
51:34 <Vampera> and they have a lot of IPs too
51:35 <Halcyon> I was in Brissie last week
51:42 <Halcyon> Gorgeous weather
51:58 <Halcyon> I just block all that rubbish off my network Vampera
52:02 <Halcyon> It's all trash
52:07 <Vampera> yeah but they keep coming
52:20 <Vampera> I have a canned blocklist already, but it doesn't solve everything
52:26 <Halcyon> Just need to update your blocklists more often :P
52:38 <Vampera> I don't maintain the blocklist I use, beyond any custom additions I make
52:49 <Vampera> https://github.com/mitchellkrogza/nginx-ultimate-bad-bot-blocker
52:49 <EEVBot> [GitHub] mitchellkrogza/nginx-ultimate-bad-bot-blocker - Nginx Block Bad Bots, Spam Referrer Blocker, Vulnerability Scanners, User-Agents, Malware, Adware, Ransomware, Malicious Sites, with anti-DDOS, Wordpress Theme Detector Blocking and Fail2Ban Jail for Repeat Offenders | 97.5% Shell 2.4% PHP 0.0% HTML 0.0% Other | Last Push: 2025-10-15 - 10:12:56 UTC | Stargazers: 4534 | Watchers: 133 | Forks: 508 | Network: 508 | Open Issues: 132
52:53 <Vampera> I use this one, since it is easy
53:00 <Vampera> if you have a superior alternative, I'd love to know about it
53:32 <Vampera> We're behind cloudflare which helps somewhat, but usually I go into our http metrics dashboard and see a handful of different chinese IPs topping the list for requests/xfer
54:20 <Halcyon> I use a combination of my own lists with pfBlocker feeds
55:17 <Halcyon> I use this for the Bytedance hosts: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/v2ray/domain-list-community/master/data/bytedance
08:01 <Vampera> Halcyon, odd that it's a list of domains
08:07 <Vampera> since I'd be trying to block IPs
08:40 <Halcyon> IPs will change. The domains generally remain static. It will resolve those domains to IPs
08:50 <Halcyon> Of course you could also Geoblock
11:30 <Vampera> I try not to impact legitimate users or plausible usecases, regardless of region.
11:53 <Halcyon> Might also want to consider using Cloudflare?
11:57 <Vampera> Ultimately I'm not even opposed to bots scraping, but they can't deny us of service
12:00 <Vampera> [07:53:32] <Vampera> We're behind cloudflare which helps somewhat,
12:11 <Vampera> believe me I love Cloudflare and use them heavily
12:18 <Halcyon> Cools
13:15 <Vampera> nginx bot blocker is great because it's highly flexible and can block based off things like user-agent strings
13:25 <Vampera> but I just don't think the list itself gets maintained all too much
13:37 <Vampera> it's on an automatic update so it should always be pulling the latest
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57:23 <electrohead> !coffee
57:24 * EEVBot throws screaming hot coffee at electrohead
58:01 <K> u wot
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