// #eevblog — 2025-10-17
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00:54:50 <watcher> Hello
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00:58:33 <Nothing\> man, chatgpt can't even make a simple program that factors numbers
00:58:35 <Nothing\> that's it
00:58:42 <Nothing\> not prime factors, just factors
00:58:53 <Nothing\> doing trial division
00:59:20 <Nothing\> I dunno why i've become fascinated with factors/prime factors lately
01:00:40 <Nothing\> that, and this crude method for generating pseudorandom numbers by hand where you take, say a 4 digit seed, square it, add a leading zero if the square is only 7 digits, then take the middle 4 numbers of the square and repeat the process. The more iterations, the more pseudorandom it is.
01:07:43 <watcher> Hello Nothing\
01:11:08 <Nothing\> heya watcher
01:11:10 <Nothing\> how goes?
01:16:13 <watcher> good
01:18:09 <watcher> bye bye
01:18:11 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Client exited
01:36:43 <Nothing\> dangit, I'm trying to recrystalize this iron acetate I have, but the iron oxide I generated is so fine, it just goes right through my filter
01:36:59 <Nothing\> hrmm... THINKTHINKTHIN
01:37:01 <Nothing\> K
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01:49:14 <K> wot
01:49:16 <K> oy Kuschelpony
01:49:25 <Kuschelpony> and hello K
01:56:48 <Nothing\> omg sweet potatoes with a dash of brown sugar
01:56:50 <Nothing\> i'm in heaven
01:57:00 <Nothing\> leftover thanksgiving dinner :D
01:57:17 <Nothing\> also hell K, as well as you, Kuschelpony
01:57:23 <Nothing\> *hello
01:58:42 <Nothing\> not really sure how Canadian Thanksgiving works. It's not like we had Puritans
01:59:15 <Kuschelpony> and hello Nothing
01:59:18 <Nothing\> it was more habs and Indians than cowboys
01:59:37 <Nothing\> les habitants, the french settlers of the Montreal area
02:00:38 <Nothing\> actually it's conflicting. The land I live on was and still is promised to the Natives centuries ago. And there are still lawsuits over the fact that they got stiffed on it
02:01:30 <Nothing\> and funny enough, the city I live in was founded by a native, but he was a slaveowner and apparently brought 30-40 slaves to Canada with him to help cultivate the land around the new town.
02:01:41 <Nothing\> slaves, despite it being Canada
02:02:45 <Nothing\> and the guy's a celebrated hero for founding the city. Meanwhile his slaves probably did more to found it with their bare hands
02:03:58 <Nothing\> I guess they're finally investigating the former residential school here, which apparently was the longest operating one in Canada.
02:04:39 <Nothing\> Last I heard, they found 90 or so children in unmarked graves so far. Considering they found hundreds at each other site they dug up, I'm wagering this is just the start
02:05:20 <Nothing\> it's confusing coming to grips with the fact that your government literally commited genocide that it has admitted to
02:05:38 <Nothing\> not that I was ever patriotic about living in Canada
02:10:46 <K> TABERNAK!
02:11:29 <K> ah, it is tabArnak
02:12:13 * arch stuffs Vampera full of gummy bears
02:27:36 <Vampera> hariboh shit oh fuck
02:27:40 <Vampera> hi Nothing\ and arch
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02:59:31 <arch> hi
02:59:48 <arch> i have just tried 90 minute mud for the first time yesterday. that stuff is like magic
03:00:03 <arch> hardens up so fast compared to all purpose mud
03:00:49 * Vampera muds up arch
03:00:58 <arch> im too nooby mudding, or else i probably would have picked 45 minute mud. anyways, it was $16. no big deal. and im in no rush
03:01:17 <Vampera> I always buy no purpose mud
03:01:20 <Vampera> it's not useful for anything
03:01:59 <arch> lol
03:03:16 <arch> i think i will make my first, modern gaming pc, near this christmas
03:03:34 <arch> my current gaming pc is from 2012. 13 years run is pretty good.
03:05:52 <Vampera> arch, good luck
03:05:59 <Vampera> I am glad I built my PC earlier this year
03:06:32 <arch> everything so overpriced. i built my sis' gaming pc early feb this year before the trump tariffs came into effect
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05:01:49 <Vampera> https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/ifP9JCDRbH97RPE/preview
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09:33:50 <MrMobodies> https://www.kentlive.news/news/uk-world-news/government-update-new-eye-test-10573560
09:33:50 <EEVBot> [url] Government update on new eye test 'requirement' for drivers at 70 - Kent Live | www.kentlive.news
09:34:13 <MrMobodies> "Reaction times"
09:36:03 <MrMobodies> "Professor Julie-Anne Little, former chair of the AOP, has previously stated: "Sight changes are gradual which means that many drivers are unaware that their vision has deteriorated over time. Having poor eyesight has been shown to slow reaction times and the ability to drive safely.""
09:36:20 <MrMobodies> Am I being paranoid or are they assuming the worst?
09:37:29 <MrMobodies> "Poor eyesight = slow reaction time", if that was the case they wouldn't react at all.
09:37:52 <MrMobodies> Maybe they want to get more money out of people with compulsory eye tests
10:18:54 <Agripa3> Older people do react more slowly, but for instance they type faster than young people, so why?
10:19:45 <Agripa3> The answer is that their experience in driving makes up for slower reactions, just like with typing.
11:31:16 <MrMobodies> I have no confidence in most of these high street opticians
11:31:23 <MrMobodies> they'd sell me a plastic lens
11:31:32 <MrMobodies> I'd think my eyes are changing or getting worse
11:31:39 <MrMobodies> I'd go into one of their shops
11:31:58 <MrMobodies> they'd charge me for a test to tell me nothing is wrong with my eyes
11:32:06 <MrMobodies> it's the lens
11:32:15 <MrMobodies> deterioating
11:33:16 <MrMobodies> then they tell me oh we don't have any glass to fit the new lens.... BS
11:33:21 <MrMobodies> or say my frame broke
11:33:49 <MrMobodies> oh are frames are designed to fit our glasses only
11:33:51 <Agripa3> I need to get new glasses soon.
11:34:19 <MrMobodies> My glass lenses were brought in 2009, they are photochromic lens
11:34:26 <MrMobodies> so they change brown in bright daylight
11:34:32 <MrMobodies> no coatings
11:34:45 <MrMobodies> last eye test in 2019 before I moved and the optician said no change
11:35:17 <Agripa3> My current ones are glass bifocals which turn dark grey in sun.
11:36:15 <MrMobodies> he told me his only glass laboraty shot down and plastics "have gotten so much better" BS! I told him I use to loose me temper cleaning them. Anyway he found one in East Europe and sent me a second set during the lockdown.
11:36:16 <MrMobodies> oooh good
11:36:36 <Agripa3> The plastic ones have gotten better.
11:36:41 <MrMobodies> do you find them easy to clean compared to plastics?
11:36:53 <Agripa3> glass? Yes
11:36:58 <MrMobodies> I have had nothing but negative experiences from plastic
11:37:01 <Agripa3> I've never had plastic lenses.
11:37:03 <MrMobodies> when it comes to cleaning
11:37:12 <MrMobodies> the smears I can't stand them
11:37:55 <MrMobodies> How better plastic has become, or it's lightweight doesn't matter to me if I can't clean them easily
11:38:20 <Agripa3> plastic photogrey has gotten much darker and faster for instance.
11:39:13 <MrMobodies> I remember in the late 1990's I use to barly get them clean with the small alcohol spray cans and a lint free cloth with difficulty where I'd try again and again.
11:39:29 <Agripa3> I just use soapy water.
11:39:37 <Agripa3> But of course with glass, I could use acetone.
11:39:37 <MrMobodies> When they started to sell "Non alcohol streak free" cans it made it so much worse
11:39:44 <Agripa3> Or windex.
11:39:56 <MrMobodies> it'd smear up and all the other opticians started selling only that
11:40:23 <Agripa3> Just demand for glass is lower compared to plastic.
11:40:25 <MrMobodies> but Donalds and Achinsons told me why and demonstrated with a glass and plastic lense in their draw and i was only 14 at he time
11:40:30 <Agripa3> I don't think Zeno for instance even sells glass.
11:40:53 <Agripa3> In the US, glass lenses must be tempered also, which makes them thicker.
11:41:23 <MrMobodies> There is a private opticians in March town down the road that still has connections to places that make them to order
11:41:29 <Agripa3> https://www.zennioptical.com/
11:41:29 <EEVBot> [url] Zenni Optical | Eyewear for Everyone® | www.zennioptical.com
11:42:13 <MrMobodies> My mum and dad went through THREE sets of glasses only to be told their lens were wearing out.
11:42:27 <MrMobodies> so I think maybe things have changed and they make them detoriate quicker
11:42:37 <MrMobodies> I men the plastic lens in the glasses
11:43:07 <MrMobodies> oh also many of these opticians don't even sell the frames that fit my head
11:43:14 <MrMobodies> too narrow and small legs
11:43:37 <MrMobodies> it seems the independent ones are able to order them direct
11:43:41 <MrMobodies> by size
11:44:34 <MrMobodies> I remember Marchon was the one my previous optician had connections too
11:45:13 <MrMobodies> but I still see well after 16 good years out of these lenses and god knows how many frames I went through
11:45:33 <MrMobodies> very comfortable to see through, and I find it easier to clean them with alcohol wipes
11:45:57 <MrMobodies> and one thing i don't often see are the horrid smears that were very easy to do with plastic lens
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17:10:57 <K> hello cheese barnacles
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18:24:27 <watcher> Hello
18:25:15 <steve30> o/
18:48:26 <K> oy steve30 watcher
18:48:29 <K> !coffee steve30
18:48:30 * EEVBot drowns steve30 in coffee
18:48:38 <steve30> :p
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22:48:53 <electrohead> !coffee
22:48:54 * EEVBot slides a cup of joe to electrohead
22:50:11 <K> now now then do not be hasty
22:50:34 * electrohead hastily defies K
22:50:44 <K> now now then
22:51:11 <electrohead> wait
22:51:18 <electrohead> we're doing what right now, for later?
22:52:06 <K> at forthnight
23:03:15 * electrohead builds a fort for K, shoves him inside at night
23:03:22 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4N4ooRio5s
23:03:22 <EEVBot> [YouTube] UPC Codes and 666 (1994) | 13m 17s | Channel: Best of the Worst Collection | 770 views | 2023-09-09 - 12:58:32 UTC
23:05:29 * Vampera hugs electrohead and gives him headpats
23:12:15 * electrohead explodes
23:23:55 <K> hedpots
23:24:57 <electrohead> lol
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